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Mpexy

05-04-07, 16:08

MPexy, not to flame you on this, but saving a lousy 20 p on a 600 p tab to meet a lady at Madahos is not my idea of getting a bargain! Now you shave off 200-300 pesos, now we are talking!

Whether that drink is 60-80 p it is still a rip off.

RustyjonesI suggest you read my post again. I went out of my way to state I was merely pointing out a factual correction as an FYI - a 'for your information' type post. Some of the recent posts kept referring to the drink price as 80p so I was merely correcting it. Period.

I also specifically stated "While I don't think quibbling over 20p is a priority if you're ok with paying entrance plus 300+, just this fyi that you could pay 60 per drink rather than 80 if you wanted to" - I didnt state or even imply saving 20p would a great saver on a 600p tab - that 600p peso is yours. I didn't take or offer an opinion of budget - just again, a simple factual correction for any that cared to utilize it.

On the price though, other than the dancers, you can get almost any chica out of there for 300p which is the standard rate assuming other negative factors not being thrown in (for example, girls have their own perferences and it does go into the price equation - girl dislikes something about you, price goes up)

Also, while I wouldnt really care, you're assuming the 20p delta is only 1 drink. Its not for a number of guys that take chicas out of there - unless you go after 2:30am or so, taking a girl out for an all nighter or multiple hours will cost you 2 drinks minimum, and regardless of a minimum some guys, including myself, will buy 3-4 drinks before exiting with the girl - just relaxing, seeing the show a bit, or hanging out with your wingman while he picks up a gal.

I had kind of crawled into a shell for quite awhile because of responses exactly like this. I'm now chiding myself for being dumb enough to have tried to start posting again. Cheers - I'll be going back into my lurker-only mode again.

MiddleAgeGuy

05-04-07, 17:36

Mpexy is right on the drink prices. Except believe it or not, there is one at over 100 pesos also. I almost bought one for this gal I buy a drink for every once in a while. Sitting at the bar, she ordered this drink and the bartender gives me a look like, "you sure you want to buy this?" So I asked how much, put my foot down saying to the gal, you must be joking. Some kind of exotic fruity drink with all the fixings. She was OK with the cheaper ones. Just thought she would ask, (or more like get away with it) I ussually ask the girls, or they do it on their own, to keep it to the lower end drink cost please.

Badboy is right on the Chica prices, 300P+. I remember the good old days when I thought I was getting jerked at 200P in there when 100-150P was the going rate in other places. 300P is the min @ Madaho now. Portenos included, probably even Portenas if they were so brave as to try and pick one up. Even football stars, I've seen. You may have even read about Charlie Garcias payment problems in the provinces. Just thank the stars you are not competing with his budget, mind you I guess he forgot to pay!

It is funny to quickly scan back over time in a particular Topic at the various prices thru time and by the time you get back to 2005, you can see how life has changed.

MAG

Hunt99

05-04-07, 18:23

Never thought about this before, but what's stopping me from buying a beer, Coca-Cola, or vodka martini at the bar for the regular price and giving it to the girl I am talking to? As my methodology in these places is usually one of scouting out promising girls and getting their telephone numbers for daytime fucking (at a reduced price) why in the world would I want to pay 80 pesos for a little cup of colored soda water? Has anybody ever done this and gotten zapped for it?

Shorttimer

05-07-07, 22:56

I was qouted 450p by multiple chicas for an hour. Any takers. Not me. I told one I thought the rate was 300p she came back and said ok if I am interested. But I wasn't.

Marce69

05-12-07, 12:40

Anybody knows a girl from Madaho's named Elizabeth? Long hair brunette, big tits, very pretty face.

Bandy

05-13-07, 00:36

Stopped by at 1 AM last night (Friday) Saw most of them before. Never liked any one of them before, so things are not going to be different this time. They all got one year older. Only encountered a few new ones. One of them, Amira, was from La Plata. She was willing for 300 P for 2 hours. I wanted TLN. No deal. The girl had an excellent attitude. Then met a 20 yr. Old. I think she was going out with somebody. Told me to wait for TLN. Adios. At 4 AM, reluctantly offered a Paraguyan 300 Peso for TLN. She was still holding for 400 P. You can realize, none of them was my first choice. In fact, except one of the dancers, I was never truly interested in anybody. So I was looking for value. It was not offered and I left the place at 5 AM after watching the dancer at close proximity for last half hour. She had a lot of eye contact and hoping for a copa. In my book, that would have been better spending of my peso than taking anybody home. In my sanity book, that would have also been a real stupid move. So I left and the Paraguyan still waiting for the pot of gold. Good luck and good night!

I had my Madaho girl at 150 Peso on Saturday. That's another story. Look under Cafe Orleans thread.

Bandy

Spanky

05-25-07, 01:32

I feel like it is time for me to post after reading this forum for over 1 year. I have been reluctant after living in China and Egypt for many years where my email was monitored. Anyway, I have met many mongers in clubs before including Jackson at Solid Gold. After SG we went to Madahos and he recommended Patricia who was a very good provider and very funny in conversation.

Anyway BadBoy inspired me to finally post after reading his comparison between La Lopez and Madahos. I have been to many many Club's in BA for the past 2 years including the ripoff joints which I experienced the hard way. In fact, I got into a physical scuffle at one place in the Microcenter where the fat ass bartender chased me into the street after I refused to pay. I ran circle around that pig. At two other ripoff places, I left without paying the final tab. Of course this was after I had been milked a few hundred pesos so in my mind, they had gotten paid.

I always paid way too much at first out of ignorance and my lack of Spanish. This was all before I stating reading AP. Also, I can speak Spanish muy bien ahorra despues muchas veces con mi espanol professora quienen es caliente. My world has changed.

Last Saturday, I went to all the Rocoleta clubs making the rounds as usual checking everything out. I knew that night I would look for my old friend who worked at Madahos named Flavia. This is the girl I took on a road trip to Marda Plata. Great trip where we actually went into the Madohos at Marda Plata. Flavia was not working that night so I took a girl named Sophie who is very petite, nice looking but not beautiful. Bought the customery drink and left. This girl is very very passionate. She would not keep her tongue away from me in Madahos and she wanted to DFK the entire walk down to the transitory even while the little boy selling flowers kept up with his PLEASE, PLEASE. Once in the room, Sophie pulled my pants down and started BBJ with me standing. Finally, I got all my clothes off, laid on the bed and she hiked my legs up a started licking and tongue fucking my culo. WOW, I was not expected this even though I have gotten this same treatment from other girls in the MC. Soon after, I got the BBBJ with her head bobbing so rapido I came immediately in her boca and on her face. She then wanted to kiss more. I pushed her way since I am not into the taste of my own love juice. I did feel bad about messing her face up since I am such a sensitive guy. I took a shower and laid down and within 5 minutes I got the full treatment again. We played for about 10 minutes in various positions but to no avail since I had been drinking. Sophie is awesome. I took her back and I went to La Lopez to say HI to Monica the bartender with big ones. I would love to nail her and I am working on this adventure. La Lopez is a good place and I have taken many chicas from there. I was not ready yet so I went to Salome. I love this place for drinking and dancing. It is cheap and the music rocks. I have many wild stories about this place from previous visits. Upon arrival, I saw Elizabeth who used to work at Solid Golds. This girls stuck my finger in her butt while we were watching the show at Solid Gold. She did clean it off with her mouth. I have been with Elizabeth twice and she is by far the nastiest girl I have been with. I will not take her anymore since she was so willing to do it without condom. Of course, I always insisted but I wondered about all the other guys she asked to do it sin condom. I said HI to Elizabith as I immediately went downstairs to see the strip show. I bought 2 girls drinks, danced, sucked face with them while they kept grabbing my private. I had a good time but was not quite ready.

I went to Nuevo Estillo which I go to often. This place has very cute girls if you go late at night. I have had a few verbal incidents with locals there since I tend to buy alot of drinks for the chicas. This is not so common for Argentines. I left with Patricia who just got wonderful implants, (not too big) She is the one who does the lesbian show. Great BBJ so I thought. I asked her to put on a condom and she just got that devilish grin on her face showing me the her BJ was with a condom. We did the standard missionary with me having no problem after about 10 minutes. It is tough sometimes after many beers. Not bad for 150 pesos gratis after the room fee.

Sorry about waiting so long to post. You guys have really helped my become the mongers monger I have become.

Spanky

Andres

05-25-07, 11:54

Also, I can speak Spanish muy bien ahorra despues muchas veces con mi espanol professora quienen es caliente.Congratulations for taking the nerve and sharing your experiences, specially if tracked before by the monger police.

Just a minor correction that may help English-speaking men.

If you want to say that a chica is beautiful (hot) don't use the word caliente. Caliente means horny in Spanish when refering to a person (it also may mean furious, outraged, out of control, etc, but to a girl in that situation is clearly "horny") Say linda, bonita, preciosa or better that "ella está muy buena".

I heard firsthand of mongers trying to compliment a girl saying that she is "caliente" and getting a disapproving look after that comment. Don't wonder why. LOL.

Andres

Bandy

05-25-07, 13:26

Hermosa, simpatica, divertida. Work like a charm.

Bandy

AllIWantIsLove

05-25-07, 14:55

<snip>

If you want to say that a chica is beautiful (hot) don't use the word caliente. Caliente means horny in Spanish when refering to a person (it also may mean furious, outraged, out of control, etc, but to a girl in that situation is clearly "horny") Say linda, bonita, preciosa or better that "ella está muy buena". <snip>

AndresHow about guapa and hermosa?

Thanks, Bob

Andres

05-25-07, 17:03

How about guapa and hermosa?

Thanks, BobHermosa is perfect.

Guapa is too Spaniard. Good for Madrid, not for BA.

Andres

Ratbutt

06-06-07, 20:04

For what its worth, I was at Madahos for the first time last night & wanted to give a first impression.

I have pretty high standards & I thought that the girls on display were pretty decent, ranging from 6-9 depending on your taste. Lots of them spoke a good deal of english, more than enough to settle the necessary preliminaries.

The environment is like a upscale US strip club & there is a good mix of locals & foreigners having fun.

In the time I was there I was approached by at least 7 women trying to get into my pocket, including of course the house dog who I promptly but politely rejected.

As I posted elsewhere, I always check out new joints in a completely non-horny state and see if the magic is there to make an experience of it. I wasn't in the mood to negotiate that much and with of few of these girls asking $150US I knew it would be a bit of a long night before closing a deal & I wasn't that interested in the hassle.

Fortunately, on the way out I ran in to this really cool Taxi driver, determined to show me Los Mejores Putas in Argentina. I ended up getting a really nice (great attitude, alabaster skin. Tall blond Argentine from the street $150 pesos for her and $35 for the room, multiple pops, you know the routine.

Some other time I will definately splurge and get that 4-star bi-lingual pussy at Madahos but the Cafes and the Street definately have their place for the well rounded monger.

Thomaso276

06-07-07, 00:49

Ratbutt: love the handle! Be carefull with street walkers, it is a crime here and cops can roust you. As well they are very unreliable.

Westsider

06-19-07, 02:17

In one year Madahos pricing has gone wild. Last year 200p for 1 hour was easily negotiated, but last week a chica wouldn't budge from 400p plus 70p lady drink. In addition, she insisted in going to a nearby transario (45p) near Solid Gold to minimize the turnaround time. A rational man using the correct head would not agree to this. Too bad she was so hot. The differential with 100-150p apartments is getting to big. Next time I would go to Madahos to soak up the atmosphere, chat it up, have a drink, then head for an apartment or cafe.

JustGotBack

06-20-07, 02:31

In one year Madahos pricing has gone wild. Last year 200p for 1 hour was easily negotiatedLucky you. I haven't been able to get anything lower than 300p for two years. I've never even paid that much. The only time I agreed to it the girl didn't follow through with BBBJ so I booted her. I've been going to Madahos since it's open, I don't know how I got the 300p mark on my head.

Exon123

06-24-07, 14:00

Walking down Vicente Lopez last night both La Lopez and Madahos were closed.

Someone said something about the coming election was the reason.

To bad since it put a lot of girls out of work.

Exon

Esten

07-05-07, 16:03

I took out a brazilian girl named Eduarta from here recently. Blond, natural DD, attractive with a refined, elegant look. Early-mid 20s I'd say. She's an intelligent girl and only works a few nights a week while going to school. It was late maybe 3am. She wanted 600p for 2 hours. I think I counteroffered 400p for 1.5h. She became more serious in the negotiation, and started explaining how she is selective and looks for guys she could also do other things with like go to dinner, etc. Possibly true or bullshit. She countered 500p and said for 2 hours, maybe longer no worries about the time. I accepted. Her drink was 80p. Left in taxi to my hotel. Very good session. No kissing or BBBJ (didn't ask) but otherwise very accomodating. Nice body and GREAT natural breasts. First part of session she serviced me with various requests. Middle of session she wanted me to help her get off, where she slowly rode me cowgirl for about 20 minutes, while I softly massaged her breasts which were right in front of my face. This was her little fantasy she explained to me, but I enjoyed it quite a bit as well. She had some great facial expressions and definately got off. End of session had her service me slowly with her hands and breasts and I had an intense orgasm. No after session cuddling, etc, she went off to the bathroom and got dressed. Stayed about 1h40min. I paid more than I usually do, and would have liked her to stay longer. No big deal. 3am in the club was late for me, I wanted her and didn't want to waste more time finding another chica. It was a good session.

Monger514

07-05-07, 17:52

Thanks for the report. This girl Eduarta sounds to me like one of these women who could almost be a super provider, but can't quite bring herself to do it. Sounds like you overall had a good time, though.

Darkstar

07-05-07, 19:58

Good report, Esten. Sounds like you pleased the correct dick, if you know what I mean.

Exon123

07-05-07, 22:29

No DFK, No BBBJ,

I'd rather have the $500 peso's.

Exon

Lunico

07-05-07, 23:22

500! Damn. I paid 450 for 2 hot chicas from oralgirls.com who did what the hell I told them. Ok their names are Axe and Kendra. Kendra is Bolivian, who is denying her background, but Axe is all portena and is worth the money. Suerte. Oh this was was yesterday.

Lunico

Rock Harders

07-06-07, 00:00

Esten-

First I'd like the thank you for reporting your experiences here on this board for everyone to learn from. If you felt that the $500 AR was money well spent, so be it, and read no further. However, if you want to hear some useful insights from a full-time resident who knows the chicas (pro and amateur) pretty well, read on.

I can tell you right now without meeting you or the girl in question that she would have taken less money for a longer-than an hour experience. When the clock comes close to striking the 3am mark in these clubs, its almost lights out for these girls and the prospect of walking without any money becomes very real. Essentially at this point, no matter what the girl told you, its all reasonable offers accepted (meaning $300 AR) and the terms are negotiable to a far greater degree than if you were dealing with this girl at 1am. This expecially holds true considering that at 3am or later, the girls at Madahos do not have to return to the club, meaning how long she spends with you is entirely up to her.

As far as the girl claiming to be "selective" and "looking for guys to date", that is all just total con-artist bullshit, all these girls are nothing more than two tits and a twat for rent, they will go out with all but the most undesireable client. In addition, I can tell you there is no way these girls would consider legitimatly dating you (which in chica land means you fuck them bareback for free, whenever you want essentially, because you can actually give them orgasms) BEFORE you have fucked them.

The price you paid is not actually totally outrageous, guys pay $200-$300 USD on a nightly places at Black, so you paid considerably less than those poor souls. You just did not get a good value for the money you paid; for $500 AR, you should have gotten everything and anything you wanted or could ever want, for as long as you wanted (meaning 3 or 4 hours)

Some girls are actually worth what amounts to ridiculous sums of money for Buenos Aires. Last Thursday I was talking to a dancer at Cocodrilo who was a true 9.5. I would have dropped $200 USD in a nanosecond to get her into bed with me, unfortunatly she wasn't for hire.

Suerte,

Dirk Diggler

Esten

07-06-07, 15:58

Thanks for the info. I've been to BA several times and I'm aware of pretty much everything you said. I know I could have negotiated down more, especially at that hour. Some contributing factors why I didn't - on this occasion - are:

- I'd just got into EZE at 8pm that evening.

- I'd already paid the girl's drink, so moving onto another girl would mean a loss of the 80p already invested.

- Yes it was 3am, and I should have been thinking 'I can get a good price at this hour', but instead I was focused on 'It's late, I don't have time or interest to invest more time finding a bargain, I just want a good experience to finish the day.'

I go to BA mainly for the club scene. I occasionally visit the cheaper ones but spend most of my time in the high-end clubs. I also (generally) focus on the top 20% girls in terms of looks. My willing price range in these clubs used to be 250-300 range in the past couple years. Based on several factors I've adjusted up to 300-400 range this year (per hour minimum) I thought the 500 I paid was not crazy given that it was for 2 hours. Again, I agree I could have negotiated down further though, given the late hour. I just didn't care at that point, for the reasons above.

Veterano

07-07-07, 01:09

Esten ~ good report, sounds like you had a good time.

Why do you feel you have to justify what you paid to the price police?

Teddybear

07-07-07, 14:40

- I'd already paid the girl's drink, so moving onto another girl would mean a loss of the 80p already invested. That's why I (almost) always negotiate the deal before I buy the chica a drink.

Sounds like you had a good time anyway.

Dominicfla

07-08-07, 09:52

Following watching the Argentina-Paraguay Copa America game at a nearby restaurant, I went to Madahos to enjoy my last night in town.

I got there a little bit after midnight, and the place was beginning to fill up. Even though I speak some basic Spanish, my American accent is patently obvious and I was quoted prices in US$; the accent undermined my negotiating posture. Quite a few chicas, some more average looking but a few who are genuinely hot. The dancers are definitely the hottest chicas there.

After surveying the scene for while, watching some dancing and talking to a few chicas I honed in on Johanna, a super-petite long-haired portena blond (she is an 8 I would say, maybe slightly higher) After starting with a US$200 demand, we agreed on US$150. She is very lively and a lot of fun – I would certainly recommend her.

Overall costs: AR$50 for my entrance, which included a drink (I had to throw in an extra AR$5 for a Jack Daniels) One chica drink is required, there goes another AR$80 (obviously, make a deal with a chica before buying any of them a drink) Transitorio was AR$45, so. It was about US$210 for the entire experience. I had a big smile on my face when I went to bed that night and in the morning as well, so I think that is sufficient evidence that it was worth it.

P. S. One thing I realized in terms of inflation is that the chica economy is based on increments of 50. At least for boliches, this means that prices typically will increase by increments of that amount (I. E. From AR$150 to AR$200, you won't see a price increase of, say AR$100 to AR$125 or $140) There is a little more price variation with privados.

CarneValistico

07-08-07, 15:14

Reading here what has been told is more or less the correct reflection about how prices can raise. I mean I am the best example:

Googleing some internet sites about local escorts and some hot places, coming from (regarding mongering) expensive europe, have no clue about existing - informative - places like this here, and whoooops I offered 4k us$

For an escort for 14 days.

Looking here around, gathering the infos, makes me believe that exactly that is the problem. BEING UNINFORMED!

1. The europeans, esp. French and british collegues, are used to much higher prices. Looking at germans, brithish and french fellows, you can be sure that they all speak more or less english - but so what? It simply doesn't help in BA, even worst, it identifies the visitors to the lady as a tourist. They, inclusive me, simply do not know what is going on here in reality, and so they get " filtered" by the ladies, untill the cash is happyley burned. And the best is they do not even think it was too high priced, noooo, these guys come back next year with the bundle of buddies who they told how cheap the chicas were, and do it again because euro /$ is that comfortable at the moment, that's all! Its as simple like that. The only good news is that flights from europe to BA are a real torture (14 houres) and still expensive.

That will help to " defend " the pricelevel, but noone should think that it will not change to the worst, because since quite a time the chicas theirself found out that esp. In Portugal and Spain, sex is expensive and much higher payed than in BA. Conclusion: Those of us (I am so arrogant and include me) who want to have longterm stabil prices are in danger to monger with ladies who can't afford the flighttickets to europe, or get used to slightly increasing prices. Unfortunately thats the law of market. And we all do not look like Bratt Pitt for whom they would fall down on their knees and suck the toes, while he is playing the violine, correct Jakson?:-)

I try to be nice, as I stated that somewhere else, try to give her a respectfull feeling, show her that a very nice night is waiting for her, and if I smell that she is interested the cards are playing for me, politly spoken.

Ok, guys - don't take it too serious, the germans, french, and british will not arrive like a zunami of Grasshoppers, and crash the market. Its more like melting the I've due global warming;-) cheers!

Esten

07-15-07, 13:35

I think its very important to have ongoing discussion on pricing. Comments from those like Dirk are especially valuable so we can benchmark what we are paying. We may not always strike the best deals but at least this knowledge can help us avoid paying highly inflated amounts.

I general I am mindful of getting what I want, while not contributing to unreasonable inflation in the market. I always negotiate. How hard I negotiate though depends on several variables.

Esten

07-15-07, 13:43

Nicol the Brazilian is still working and will likely be at Madahos for several more months. I've seen her twice in the past and highly recommend her. I spoke with her this trip to BA but didn't take her out. Actually she looked a little less 'fresh' than what I recall before. But her service is top-notch.

Another girl who worked at Madahos for over a year is now at another high-end club. She's a sweet, friendly blond with natural DDs. A little thick. I ran into her at the other club and asked why she wasn't at Madahos anymore. She said there was a bad vibe with the girls at Madahos, and she didn't want to work there anymore.

Smoothy

07-18-07, 05:01

If a lady drink is 80 pesos there, how much of that does the lady get to keep?

Jackson

07-18-07, 17:56

If a lady drink is 80 pesos there, how much of that does the lady get to keep?Five Pesos.

Esten

07-20-07, 22:15

5 pesos to the girl for each drink. I must say that is really cheap on the part of Madahos.

Jackson

07-20-07, 22:33

5 pesos to the girl for each drink. I must say that is really cheap on the part of Madahos.The club makes it's money selling drinks.

The girls make their money selling their pussy.

They generally keep out of each other's pockets.

It seems balanced to me.

Besides, which would you want: The girls focusing on selling drinks, or selling their personal services.

Thanks,

Jackson

BTW, when the girls get you to buy them one of the house specality drinks that sell for $20-40 pesos more, they get $10 pesos, not $5.

Additionally, what they really get is a ticket for $5 pesos which they can and do use to buy themselves those little drinks you see them get served by the bar, and at the end of the night they can trade all of their remaining tickets in for the cash. This typically amounts to $30-60 pesos each night, even if they didn't have a client, and which is an amount that still exceeds what they would have earned at a "normal" job.

Esten

07-20-07, 23:30

Yes, but the only reason the club is selling drinks in the first place is because of the girls. 5p from an 80p drink seems very lopsided to me. I think 20p per drink would be more equitable without detracting significantly from the girl's incentive to sell her services.

If the average girl is really selling 6-12 drinks and making 30-60p per night as you say, then I don't feel quite as sorry for them. But I find that a little hard to believe. In a typical hour I've spent in Madahos on a busy night, I recall about 1/3 of the girls are with customers who have bought them a drink (maybe two) and 2/3 of the girls are alone / with their friends. Add to that the drinks that the girls occasionally buy themselves during the course of the night. It would seem to me that every night there are several girls who go home with barely enough to cover cab fare. Of course I could be wrong, these are just my limited observations and speculations.

Dancesw/Chicas

07-21-07, 04:54

... Poor chicas, not money for the cab back home. Please!

What about the 1000 pesos they got the night before with the 200 dollar foreign and the 400 pesos argentino. We are there only once in a while, those chicas are there every night.

DWC

Jackson

07-21-07, 15:53

Yes, but the only reason the club is selling drinks in the first place is because of the girls.Hi Esten,

OTOH, the only reason the girls are selling their pussy to the clubs customers (at the inflated club prices) is because of the club.

5p from an 80p drink seems very lopsided to me. I think 20p per drink would be more equitable without detracting significantly from the girl's incentive to sell her services.Perhaps it would be more fair if the girls received 20% of the clubs drink price and the clubs received 20% of the chicas "service fee".

If the average girl is really selling 6-12 drinks and making 30-60p per night as you say, then I don't feel quite as sorry for them. But I find that a little hard to believe. In a typical hour I've spent in Madahos on a busy night, I recall about 1/3 of the girls are with customers who have bought them a drink (maybe two) and 2/3 of the girls are alone / with their friends. Add to that the drinks that the girls occasionally buy themselves during the course of the night. It would seem to me that every night there are several girls who go home with barely enough to cover cab fare. Of course I could be wrong, these are just my limited observations and speculations.Just take a seat at the bar near the "controller" (The guy who clocks the girls in and out and who redeems their drink tickets) near the end of the night and watch the girls cashing in their drink tickets as they leave for the evening.

Additionally, you should factor in that the club typically gives the girls two free drinks every night, so with these plus the drinks that the customers are buying them, they're not generally buying many drinks for themselves.

BTW, it's rather strange to find my self defending the position of the club.

Jackson

El Perro

07-21-07, 16:00

While 5p seems like very little money to most of us, it is not so to many locals. And, definitely not chump change if it adds up at the end of the night (s) For a better perspective on this, check out the recent thread were local incomes are discussed. I am sure many locals eat on less than 10p a day. In fact, half that for many. So, 5p is nothing to sneeze at.

Smuler

07-22-07, 01:11

I remember giving some kid that worked at the airport a 5 P tip. I had arrived and he helped me exchange my Amex Traveler Checks at a bank in the airport. (the one outside the gate wouldn't) So I met some business acquaintances, and told them the story. I explained to them that after I gave the kid the money, he kept staring at it. I thought I had insulted the kid by giving him not enough. My colleagues said, " you gave him more than he was expecting, he was staring at it because it was a fortune to him ".

Regards.

Smuler

Andrew Sydney

08-02-07, 06:30

Plenty of talent, high calibre too. Friendly environment. Went with Jackson so that probably helped. He seems to be a minor celebrity in this town. Anyhow a lot of the better looking girls are asking over $400, but the one I took was absolutely worth $450 and I would see her again anytime. Sorry to contribute to "inflation" but to be frank I'd rather pay a little more and fuck something that doesn't remind me of the ugly chekout girl at my local target store.

Lennox

08-18-07, 16:07

I remember not too long ago paying 300P for several hours for top notch girls out of Madahos.

The prices are getting kind of shocking. Supply and Demand is kicking in here big time. We need some more kids being born to supply future generations of mongers with some quality talent.

Andrea 64

08-19-07, 03:07

Well I think it's a kind of psicological definition of price such as any other trade. Since last January pay 300 pesos was absolutely well accepted. Right now they directly pass to 400, it' s huge increase in % but unfortunately it a 100 step. Maybe a price not rounded like 350 sounds strange.

Anyway I think the worse problem is the fall of quality in the best club.

I pass 3 to 4 time and I didn't find anything.

Last year I was quite often positevely impressed.

Moreover the best thing in madaho has always been the whole "buena onda" club+chicas.

Does anyone knows any alternative?

I don't like any chicas from la lopez and chicas from black I don't find them friendly.

Geo Eye

08-21-07, 11:18

There is a sucker born every minute! Avoid this overpriced place and their anti-Monger techniques! Three chica drinks at 80 pesos each+tips, chicas are told to return to the club in one hour, get em off fast and get back for another round, taxi scams, more!How true it is, Madahos is become a complete rip-off, I can tell you this from.

Experiance, the women con you into agreeing with you on anything and once you cum they are out the door. It truely is a ripoff, they are all snakes. Try Newport and keep it under 250 for 2hrs.

Miami Bob

08-25-07, 03:00

This boy has not been to Madahos for over six months. I still have a very strong hormonal reactions to the combination of the girls and the atmosphere. This place is clearly overpriced and capable of ripping you off big time. I also have obtained some worthy advise from people who know the system better than I do. I take notes on badboys' postings about mogering.

I invested the time and 80 pesos for a chica drink with one of the woman who obviously floats my boat. WE spent 30 to 45 minutes talking for only the one drink before 450 exit price was negotiated. Not cheap, but within the reasonable end of the market for one of the better looking girls per my taste. I was with a newbie who was a little uncomfortable at first. My girl found someone that fit his descrption of what he likes with a little bit of english for the same price.

She is a nice girl and took my cel number. I was tired and had the beginnings of a cold. I did not leave with her, but gave a small tip for sitting with me and playing kissy face for a long time. She took my number and called me today.

While I was feverish and ready for bed. 300 pesos if I buy her a steak before work. We have a tentative appointmnet for Saturday, if I feel up to it. This girl was a secretary for a multinational and has a ten year visa to the usa, with eight years left. I got her in a spot light before buying the drink and she appeared to me to be no older than eary 30's, maybe younger. As syd says below, the lighting is scientifically designed to make the chicas' real appearance difficult to detect.

I think that is is a waste of time to provide her name and a detailed descrption, but I'll provide basics: charo, 5'7", or 8, straight blonde hair, gym body--very tight curvy stomach and butt, very sexy hi healed sandels, dark eyes, Tastefully enhanced breasts

Nice calm personality, as sensual as you can tell in the club--she spent over one hour stroking my upper body and kissing me and never asked for the second drink. Her number is going in my permanent collection as I doubt that I am going to be well on Saturday. If I do not test the waters now, it will happen in November. If she is as pleasing in my bedroom as she was on the bar, I road trip might be in order for someone with a ten year visa. This girl has close to zero english. I would rate her body 8.5 to 9.0, face 7.5 to 80 and she seemed like a sweet heart at the bar, but you never know.

I am 55 yo and slightly over weight--not a stud-muffin.

I prefer the girl friend experience and I'm learning how to cultivate the increased probabilty of receiving one by trying to send out that message. With the right girl this helps. Some girls prefer 30 minutes of bang, bang, bang and thank you mam. The girl friend types will offer a differnet type of service that I am learning about. I am relatively new at the mongering arts and developing my own style. I try to follow the master mongers' style of developing repeat relationships or friendship with my favorites, mixed with trolling for new faces. After I leave, I'll post my favorites photos and info after I leave. I have a couple of girl friend gems based upon how we reacted to each other.

Hold on for the bj queen--she is a real treat and was nursing through my bout of the flu. This girl is a free lance porno actress and i originally met her in las lopez while waiting for another sweet little to return from an out call.
She did not like the system there and left after a few weeks.

BadMan

08-29-07, 18:45

Great story Sid,

Can we have a name, because if even half of the story you told was true she sounds pretty good. I have seen 2 black girls from the DR in that place. One is slightly taller than the other, bad weaves but nice racks.

Bad

Hunt99

08-29-07, 19:41

Immediately she starts DFK and is un-zipping my pants. She drops to her knees and sees my thick, 12'' tool. She is estatic. Says that she has never seen such a big cock! -Sid, when you measure the tool, you're only supposed to measure from the base to the end. Not from the base to the end, back to the base, back to the end, and back to the base. Accounting figures like that turn a 3 inch weiner into a 12 inch one. Did you possibly work for Enron in a former job? ;)

Thomaso276

08-29-07, 19:43

One question Sidney, what was a ruler doing in your pants?

Miami Bob

08-29-07, 21:11

It is obvious that el syd has quite a bit of creative talent for fiction. I think that his brother mongers should encourage him to stretch his creative legs along with his Johnson.

Only kidding Sid, but the posting is great! It's great to read you post about mongering rather than other subjects. Please do so again soon.

Bob

Miami Bob

08-29-07, 22:59

I like you and will resist the temptation to say anything other that you could write a column for a gentleman's magazine.

I had the beginnings of what is now a flu, maybe I missed your grand seduction while I was occupied with a different type of stimulation.

Heehaw

08-29-07, 23:21

We get in free. He is very Worldwide experienced (favorite is China) much younger, and the ho's all want him and his money. Ok with me because I don't have to reject them. For 2 hours, we only see 3 very doable chicas--a Peruvian (she wants $500, not pesos! And won't compromise! He laughs and sends her away to find a sucker) A tall, model type from the DR with a ''world class ass''(J and I met her recently) She wants me for 1 hour @ 300 pesos. I want 2 hours, she refuses. The same old Mada-ho's bullshit =get em off fast and get back. No fukin way for me! The 3rd was a charming, happy, tall, English speaking Dominican-- we both liked just being around her. But we were prospecting for daytime activity. Anyway, we let her slip away. The dichotomy--Many are / should be available for 200--300 pesos and apparently, a few locos that want big bucks. Negotiate hard or avoid! Few seem to get work (the happy Dominican easily found work)Syd-

That was quite fun, especially calling them at their own game. "Mad-as-hoes" is what you should call it. They are very happy to be w / you until you refuse their 80p girlie drink. Anyway, after we parted ways, I walked through Recoleta, hailed a cab and, low and behold ---- I'm right in front of Exedra. You know I can't resist --- and it's on the way to my hotel too! So, like all the other fools I take a seat at one of the only talbes available at 2AM, --- only to find a table full of 4 or 5 DOMINICANAS! What luck, not not "Lady" or your girl, but still there was at least two lookers in the bunch. Didn't seem to understand her name, but she had long black hair, small tits, but a great ass. Struggling through pleasantries in spanglish, we came to the conclusion that the only $200 I was about to pay was in Pesos - not dollars. Ok, froze our way to the Sheraton but soon warmed up starting in the elevator. Man, this girl loved to ---- well, everything! More and more of it. I tried to get her to leave at about 4, but she wanted to go at it again. I only had 1 condom and thought about turning it inside out! She slept a couple of hours and finally I heard the "ya me voy" signal, that it's time to pay up. She was ok w / the 200p and said she would see me tonight. Like hell, she wore me out! I'm sitting here at 10pm like a dumbass, typing this report. Maybe I'll sample some of those privados that you love so much tomorrow!

Tiny12

08-30-07, 18:23

Twelve inches? Hmm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Penis_percentile.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Penis_frequency.jpg

She drops to her knees and sees my thick, 12'' tool. She is estatic. Says that she has never seen such a big cock! She says that she has always dreamed of a huge cock like mine.

Tomorrow she wants me to fuck her and her bi-sexual lesbian lover. Of course I agree to her 2 wishes. How could I not? What a beautiful, wonderful sex queen! I offered her 600 pesos for the 4 hours of ecstasy and she refuses any money! She won't even accept taxi money. Again she begs me to fuck her every day.

Hunt99

08-30-07, 19:04

Twelve inches? Hmm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Penis_percentile.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Penis_frequency.jpgThere I am, over on the right side of those charts, in fact, off to the right of the chart of itself. Not many fellows can match my huge cock, apparently.:p

Exon123

08-30-07, 20:20

Twelve inches? Hmm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Penis_percentile.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Penis_frequency.jpgI had no idea I had such a big Dick.

Exon

BadMan

08-30-07, 21:34

Great link tiny,

That looks about right, I wonder where they got that picture of me?

Bad

Rock Harders

09-12-07, 09:13

Mongers,

Made a visit to Madahos last night with Erkinator73 in search of some top notch professional poontang around 2am. The price of admission remains $50AR and chica drinks remain at $80AR. The truth is there are lots of hot girls in this place and they are much younger and fresher looking than Newport, for example. I negotiated a $300 AR price for my buddy Erkinator73 for an 18 year old flaquita from the southern suburbs of Buenos Aires. Afterwards, I wandered around and was able to spot a truly beautiful half Brasilian / half Paraguayan whom I recognized from my office. I approached her and let it be known that I was very interested in her services. She then proceeded to ask me if I knew the "tarifa" at Madahos, to which I responsed $300AR, and she informed me that it was actually $450AR. Naturally I told her I would not pay that and she claimed the owner would "killer her" if she took any less. I walked away and about 5 minutes later she comes up to me and says she only asked for the higher number because another girl was listening and she would be happy to take the $300AR. So off we went to Penguin's apartment for some action.

Erkinator73 and I arrive at Penguin's apartment with the two chicas and immediatly open a bottle of Chandon and start caressing, kissing, and generally molesting the chicas. After about 40 minutes of messing around drinking champagne and watching Penguin's 42 inch wall-mounted plasma tv, I take "Yanina" (not real name) to Penguin's bed and get to business. This girl has a truly amazing body with the finest natural breasts I have ever had to pleasure to get my hands on. She also has a very exotic look, as she was born in Belo Horizonte to a Brasilian father and and a Paraguayan mother. Amazing, skin, hair, and body and with several sessions over the 2 hours of actual action she was well worth the $300AR (which is by FAR the most I have ever paid in Argentina) Good bareback bj but unfortunatly she would not let me penetrate bareback, but I had no problem cumming twice nevertheless using the rubber.

My overall impression of Madahos is that it is expensive, yes, however it overall has the highest bar of chica standard of all the boliches of Buenos Aires. If you pull a chica out later in the night (after 2:30) you can avoid all the multiple chica drinks nonsense and you can get the multiple hour session you want for the same univerally acceptable $300AR price. This was the first time I pulled a chica out of Madahos since November 2005 (see report) and I will not pull one out for probably another 2 years, but I concer that I am very satisfied with the experience on this occaison.

Suerte,

Dirk Diggler

Exon123

09-12-07, 21:36

I've been window shopping there from time to time Dirk and I must agree with you theres some really beautiful women in their.

Its sorta like anything else in life, You get what you pay for. Theres a girl I've met in their that quoted me $600 peso's and I'm actually thinking about it. Gorgeous MotherFucker and the memory of the experience might be worth $200 bucks.

Exon

Toymann

09-14-07, 03:47

Ex! Are you under the influence of some sort of mind bending drug? Has it been far too long since you have dipped your fly-line? Anymore posts like this and I may start to confuse you with BAD! We'll discuss this and other more important issues (ie. 8 wt fully bent) in early November Cocksucker! Happy Mongering. T

PcDude

10-02-07, 05:02

Went by Saturday night mostly to sight see as the prices seem a bit high for my taste. The place was full of quality chicas. One told me they had over a hundred girls working that night. Not sure if there were quite that many, but easily 60-80. They all started with $200 US and I couldn't get any below $400 pesos for an hour. After two 50 peso beers this domican chica starts shaking her booty in my face. I've never had a domican, and after Masthopes influence from Cattos I was a little intrigued. She started with $200 US as well, but quickly came down to 300 pesos for and hour and half completo with photos. She is far from the best at Madahos, but price seemed reasonable for this place and she had some great moves. So after a drink for both of us we left for my apartment.

After many drinks that night, I required a lot of work to get the job done, but as I said this chica had the moves. Nice big booty, big natural tits, but a little more of a tummy than I saw in the darkness of the bar. I guess the spandex pants probably concealed some as well. The cola was fairly tight and she seemed to enjoy it. Pics to follow later as my internet connection is too slow tonight to upload. I would not repeat at that price, but it was a fun night. I took her at about 2am and she was going back to the club at 3:30am so I guess you have to go later than that if you want to keep them for the night. She quoted 200 pesos in the day, but suspect she could be talked down to 150. PM me for the digits.

PcDude

10-02-07, 21:18

Face shot to follow in the private gallery.

Sky Ryder

10-04-07, 14:14

I was asked by a couple of friends to show them around town on Monday night. It was their first trip to BsAs and they wanted a some help with translation and to get the "lay of the land" a little before venturing out on their own. After a great dinner, we started at Jazz club, drank one beer and left as quick as possible. We were the only guys and they only had about 6-7 girls, nothing better than a 5 or 6.

I told them we should go to Madahos and off we went. I experienced the sticker shock of entrance fees (sadly, gone are the days or entering free on Jackson's name) and we found a seat. I will say one thing, the dancers in this place are smoking hot. I don't know what the going rate for a date with one of them would cost in total, but all the ones I saw were 9's. There weren't a lot of girls, being Monday and all, but a few cuties. I told my friends to enjoy their drinks slowly, as replacements are 70p each and if they spotted something they wanted to talk to, let me know. One choose a good looking blonde in a smoking hot dress. She came over and I tried to act as a translator. My buddy was interested, so I told her that he would pay 250p (knowing it was a low ball offer) She acted a little offended and said her minimum was 450p, I asked if that was for all night long or until my friend asked her to leave. She said no, only for 1 1/2 to 2 hours. I told her that he didn't want to buy her only rent for a few hours. This got a smile out of her. I told her that he would pay 300p for the 1 1/2 hour session, but no more. She said that 400 was her lowest. I told her he wouldn't pay that, so she walked off. We talked to a couple more and had one girl offer 350p for short time, but my buddies weren't interested.

We left after paying for the second round and went to La Lopez, no cover charge to enter this time, and there weren't more than 20 girls, a couple I remember from Madahos 2-3 years ago. We sat at the bar and talked to a couple of girls. My buddies bought a couple of girls a drink and I thought that for sure something was brewing. It was now about 4 am and I figured they had some barganing power since we were the only guys in the place. I again offered 250p and was told no that 450 was a min. I told her that he would pay 300p for todo la noche and she said she had to do something with her kids the next day and couldn't stay all night. We were pretty tired and they were frustrated so we started to leave (after paying a 300p bar tab for 5 drinks) on the way out I spoke to a real cute gal that looked pretty young. I had seen her dance a little, but my buddy asked me to see if she would leave with him. He was only interested in a longer time, because it was late and he was tired. She agreed to 300p, but only a 1 1/2 hour visit, because she had to go home with her girlfriend. She said she had only been working for a couple of weeks and I believe it.

We decide to leave without and on the way out saw the first two ladies waiting for a taxi, I asked them if they wanted to reconsider and got a "no gracias".

I am continously surprised by the rate of "tang" inflation. I know it is more expensive these days, but a 100% increase in the last two years or so is incredible. I told my freinds to try the triangle clubs last night or Excedra, but don't have a report as of yet.

I know that quality at a resonable price is available, it just looks like it will take a little more work to uncover it. The joy of the search!

Sky

WhiteCat

10-04-07, 20:19

Last time I was there the dancers looked the best. Are they available. How are they best approached? When they took a break they disappeared.

Thanks for the input.

Esten

10-21-07, 15:57

WhiteCat,

I've heard the dancers are sometimes available. But the fees are double or triple the normal fees (both for the girl and for her drink) You can discuss with your waiter about the dancer (s) you are interested in. Tell him you want to take the girl out, not just buy her a drink. You are willing to pay a 'reasonable' fee but no more. Hopefully he will give you correct information. He will speak with the dancer and send her over if she's interested. A 10-20p tip to him would be appropriate. If the fees are too high, you could also ask her for her phone number to hook up another time outside the club.

I've never done this. But in a roundabout way I've had 2 dancers from Madahos over the years. One a few years ago when dancing was banned in the clubs for a few weeks. I picked up a girl in Black who said she was a dancer in Madahos (and had the body to prove it) The other two years ago I took out Giselle who was a regular girl at the time, and then later became a Madahos dancer.

Esten

10-21-07, 16:29

For fun I did some calculations to put the Recoleta price increases in perspective. I've used Madahos price structure as an example. Comments welcome.

2005
Entry- 30p.
Chica Drink- 50p.
Chica- 275p (avg 250-300)
Tip- 20p.
Total- 375p.
(375p)/(2.90p/USD) = $130 USD.

2007
Entry- 50p.
Chica Drink- 80p.
Chica- 375p (avg 350-400)
Tip- 20p.
Total- 525p.
(525p)/(3.10p/USD) = $170 USD.

10 visits to Madahos (or similar Recoleta club)
2005- $1300
2007- $1700
Local Increase = 400/1300 = 30% = 15% annual.
Increase vs Income = 400/3000* = 14% = 7% annual.

* Assumes increase in disposable income of $3000 USD over 2 years.

Charbuck

10-21-07, 18:37

For fun I did some calculations to put the Recoleta price increases in perspective. I've used Madahos price structure as an example. Comments welcome.

2005

(375p)2.90p / USD) = $130 USD.

2007

(525p)3.10p / USD) = $170 USD.You have to consider weakness in the dollar as well and its fall relative to other currencies. It's not all necessarily a function of inflation. If you do the same calculations with euro:

October 2005 $130 USD = €108

October 2007 $170 USD = €118

Total Change 9.3% or 4.6% per year. That isn't really all that bad. If you're getting paid in euro it doesn't suck. Real life implications: huge budget deficits in the US have weakened the currency so the Iraq war makes the hotties at Madahos less affordable.

Member #3314

11-01-07, 14:49

The place was packed with good looking women last night. I was talking to one girl and then I saw a girl I had a crazy 3 some with my last trip. I ended up taking her home.

We had a discussion about the chica drinks. There is no "time limit" Its made up by the girls. Also the "minimum price" is told by the club to be no less than 350 pesos.

This being said if the girl likes you it does not matter.

I paid 300 + drink to get her out and she was here until 11 am.

There is something nice about waking up and having a very hot chica next to you and getting your morning wood taken care of first thing in the morning.

I think another 3 some is in order for another day.

DosLuna

11-30-07, 21:19

The best upscale boliche club around, better than Blacks. When you envision visiting Buenos Aires for the first time and think of the gorgeous women, your thinking about this place. But the best comes with a price. 60p entrance includes a drink. Chica drinks are 100p. Take out, average about 400p 1 1/2 hrs, but after intense negotiations. If your really lucky, maybe 300p 1 1/2 hrs. Last time I was here 5 months ago, chicas were readily available for 300p take out, some even 250p, now its much harder. But the overall ambience is upscale and polished with the shows. Its a very cool place to hang out.

Dos Luna

Miami Bob

12-01-07, 02:01

You get what you pay for with atmosphere. The girls are better looking than most, but it is still luck and a little skill to have a good first experience with a new girl. My most recent madahos special was 400 pesos, she stayed a few hours.

She was beautiful--9.0 to 9.5--face, body--the works. I chatted her up for at least 30 minutes and had good vibs, but in the apartment----the discussion about the promised bbbj poisoned the rest of the experience. Then she decided that although dfk was ok at the club, it was not promised in the apartment. You get the drift.

Some of my best experiences have been at the recoleta high end clubs and lots of mediocre wastes of leche--at 55
I only have so much leche per week.

My recent week in ba lead to 6 encounters. The two worst were the most expensive--blacks and madahos.

Deebeeay

12-08-07, 05:21

I agree with your comment on the atmosphere - Madahos is excellent in that regard. So too is Black. Things have changed alot. Previously the clubs did not have good dancers, the atmosphere was not great, and quite frankly, the main objective was to grab a girl and get out as quick as possible. On the other hand, the quality of chica was extremely high and the prices were not as insulting as they are today. Consistent with the inconsistency of Argentina, the more girls there are in a club, the higher the prices and the lower the quality of service (it should be the opposite)

These days, with Black and Madahos, unless you know a girl from a previous encounter, it is just too risky taking out a chica. Besides, look at what is available on the internet and the pricing, then compare it to a night in Madahos or Blacks. Supreme sex experiences from Area Vip range from 300 to 400, and there is no risk of poor performance as most of the chicas are known entities. Platynum and Baires? Well, from 100 to 300, and you get a guaranteed good time. Compare that with the Russian Roulette of Madahos and Black.

Anyway, this year I made a good few visits to both of these clubs. I NEVER enter with a "must leave with a chica" attitude. I always have in my pocket phone numbers of internet girls who work during the night (Baires Girls has a list of Saturday, Sunday, Feriado and all night girls) On 3 occasions this year I took girls out of Madahos, I already knew 1 of them, and paid them 250, 300 and 350 pesos. In fact, one of them was an all nighter as it suited her not to travel home.

During the year I took 4 girls out of Black for 400, 450, 350 and 500 pesos. I knew two of these girls from before, and each time I went in after 2.30 on a Saturday night.

In both clubs, 50 pesos is quite a good deal to sit and watch the dancers - who I think are just awesome (I plan to marry and have children with one of the Blackettes)

On a few occasions, I have gone on to Salome and Cocodrilo. Coco is a great place as some of the Recoleta chicas go there after 4 am, and charge 150 to 200 pesos. Salome, for my money, at 10 pesos a drink, is always worth a drive-by, and the telo used by the chicas there has some excellent rooms (jacuzzis, all around mirrors and sex furniture)

On the new codes of behaviour in the Recoleta clubs: this crap about a chica demanding you buy her a drink before telling you her rate - ciao, go and find another fool. That sort of carry-on belongs outside the strip clubs on Corrientes.

Another thing - the chicas in Madahos are very fond of claiming that the management demand they charge at least 400 pesos, and because of that they cannot go any lower. That is the excuse they throw out. This is a bald and brutal lie. The Madahos management do not care a toss what the girls charge. The thing the management controls rigorously is the time the girl spends with each client (the girl actually signs out)

Finally, last time I was in Black and was negotiating price - the chica said - yo cobro 900 pesos. I replied - vos cobras cuando yo te pago. She thought this was a laugh and I ended up paying 500 pesos. The point of the anecdote is: the price is not what the chica asks for, it is what you agree to pay.

These days, I have fun negotiating price - I view it as foreplay and am extremely diligent in the development of my technique.

Sorry for going on so long. Although I have long read this forum, I don't contribute. But, I was reading some of the Madahos and Black reports and I wanted to contribute my experience. For what it is worth, the Foro Escorts forum has called a boycott on Madahos.

Happy Hunting

Thomaso276

12-08-07, 11:11

Great first post Deebeeay. Welcome to the forum.

Exon123

12-08-07, 13:32

Excellent post and everything stated is quite true.

Exon

MCSE

12-09-07, 01:17

"the price is not what the chica asks for, it is what you agree to pay."

That should be the base of every monger to consider himself a graduated monger. Unfortunally, that does not happens often. And that's the reason for Madaho took so much prestige among the touristy mongering scene.

In year 2000, Madaho used to be a limousine rental agency. I remember the glasses and the limos inside and the gay-taxi-boys were in the corner of the grave yard along with some travestites. In fact, some travestites moved just two blocks away, close to Pueyrredon a few years ago, and I don't know if they still there, as I'm not into it.

However, Black is an old time classic, and Madaho is the brand new shiny competitor, took a similar place, feeded by the mongering tourism. Guys who want to stay at Recoleta and as you mentioned, overpay and get submitted to these bad-performing girls. YOU ARE the monger, and what happened to "the client has the prerogative"?

I think it's unavoidable the crowd get informed about better places to go, such as mentioned, cocodrilo, or having a list from AV and other sources. But I also think that if you don't have good communication skills and after all, you are traveling for sex, not everyone is able to pay an admission to enter as you did, without the "must leave with a chica" attitude. The thing is, many of the mongers are in town for just a week, or just few days. That makes us understand that overpaying may result, looked by the individual point of view, less expensive than traveling down to BA for entering to the club for just watching and conversation.

I understand that is the key that made possible not only for Madaho, but for other clubs to succeed. And that is also the key that made girls to feel they are in the freeway with secured clients for rise their fees, and not only that, but disrespecting the client. Let me add that that many of the girls, at some point they buy their own lie, (after all, Madaho, and other clubs are the imitation of a normal club, where you buy a nice lady a drink and kindly invite her to leave with you to another place) and they think they are going for a date, the mentality of both girl and client gets confused at some point and (some times) she takes advantage because she confuses a guy who treats her gently and she translates that behavior into weakness. As they can also smell the desperation of a short-mongering visit to Buenos Aires.

Kleinberg

12-09-07, 07:49

Two very interessant post. That opened wide my mind.

MSCE could you translate AV as I don't find it in forum's abbreviations.

Thanks

MCSE

12-09-07, 13:13

Two very interessant post. That opened wide my mind.

MSCE could you translate AV as I don't find it in forum's abbreviations.

ThanksAV= Area Vip.

www.area-vip.com.ar

http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3007

Kleinberg

12-09-07, 13:18

AV= Area Vip.

www.area-vip.com.ar

http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3007How dummy am I. Shame on me;)

Deebeeay

12-11-07, 05:31

Reading other posts I realise how ignorant I am of the reality of the business traveler and tourists. These poor devils do not have time to kill and tend to be desperate to score some tail before returning to their own little sex hell. Also, although I have strong reservations about Madahos and Black, they are the only two places I feel comfortable recommending to guys in on a business trip. For all their weaknesses, both are extremely professional establishments. I would not dream of suggesting an out of towner wind his weary way to Cocodrilo.

MCSE - these forums are the world of the client / monger. There is an entirely different world - that of the provider. This came to mind when I read about ". The lies the chicas tell themselves.". There is a world of lies going on between the girls themselves. Especially regarding how much they receive from a client. In other words, the prices are actually inflated by lies. One girl says she receives 400 (when she only received 300) and so it goes on. Next thing there is a price increase. All based on fiction. The story of the newcomer holding his ground on 250 pesos with a Black girl, does not surprise me a bit. I find that 100% credible.

The amound of snobbishness going on amongst the girls is earth shattering. Oddly enough, being a gringo can be an advantage as practically all the girls want to be seen leaving with a gringo. It elevates their status with their colleagues. I guess the trick is work out what it is worth to her to leave with you and not one of the notoriously mean Argentines (you wouldn't believe some of the scams the Argentines pull)

Finally, the chicas also enjoy telling their pals that their client is a "piloto, doctor, abogado". The importance placed on professions and careers is absurd (as it is in the country in general)

I am going to try this myself, but if someone wants to give it a go before me I would be interested in the results.". I am a doctor in town at a medical conference.". Could be interesting as, while they occupy a position of prestige in Argentina, they are in general poorly paid. And for the spanish challenged."medico. Conferencia. Poco dinero. Muy pobre.". I mean, who is going to overcharge and give a bad service to a doctor?

Who knows, if this is a good strategy, might not be a bad idea to invent a monthly medical conference.

Is this wrong?

Booka

12-11-07, 16:02

"piloto, doctor, abogado?"

I said "no," laughing and answered back, "I am in internet porn."

I think she was just as impressed as if I were a "piloto, doctor, abogado."

I think my watch (G-shock) may through them off. It is not fancy just not a type you see a lot here.

Dominicfla

12-13-07, 01:12

One's professional prestige may be something about which the girls talk amongst themselves, but revealing such information (which admittedly I am guilty of doing myself- - abogado) may inspire ideas that they can extract more money from you. Regardless, as a gringo one probably will be charged more. Just a thought.

Aqualung

12-13-07, 01:54

Try telling them you are a priest! They may do charity work for you.

JuanCaminante

12-13-07, 05:49

Try telling them you are a priest! They may do charity work for you.But what happens when you say you are a priest and they want to make a confession of all their past sins?

What are the recommmended penitences prior to Christmas?

Aqualung

12-13-07, 23:49

But what happens when you say you are a priest and they want to make a confession of all their past sins?

What are the recommmended penitences prior to Christmas?I suppose when you have them there on their knees in front of you, you can come up with some kind of penitence!

Daddy Rulz

12-14-07, 06:14

Economics 101, get a rich client, provide superior service, perhaps at a discount perhaps not. Make more money in the long run due to repeat business.

Chica economics Sos de los EEUU cien pesos mas, sos medico, dame tetas why dos cientos mas!

I've seen girls leave with Argies for less because an American wouldn't pay more. If you tell them you're a doctor they will want more money because you have more money.

Do what a former member used to do, pretend to be Bulgarian, pretend to be a drunk Bulgarian but he wasn't pretending about the drunk part.

Deebeeay

12-16-07, 05:10

Indirectly, you hit the nail on the head. (1) Chicas assume that if you are from the USA, you have loads of cash (2) The chicas - as they should be - are always working to extract the maximum amount possible from the target. So regardless of the amount being negotiated, if there is something you have done or said that indicates you have more cash than you are putting in front of her, she will be pissed off. That is why the same girl will refuse 400 pesos from an American and leave with an Argie for 300: she won't leave with the American because she thinks he has more, but is holding back; whereas she will leave with the Argie because she believes he is holding nothing back. Pride is a strong contributing factor to chica logic.

Kind of related, and included for anecdotal titillation, some girls who refuse 400 pesos, are known to blow the remisero for a free taxi ride home at the end of the night.

Aqualung

12-16-07, 11:11

The girls don't charge what they think they are worth, they charge what they think you can pay them!

Americans have more money (and for most of them their knowledge of geography goes as far as anyone who doesn't speak Spanish is an American) so they have more to pay with!

And it's no good saying your Dutch or Rumanian or Greek - you might as well say you are from Texas, New York or Seattle!

They also still see blowing a cab driver for the journey home as good business as they get a free ride and they don't see how many trips they could have paid for with 400 pesos.

It's absolutely frustrating trying to make them understand the basics of economy 101.

Geo Eye

12-16-07, 12:00

The girls don't charge what they think they are worth, they charge what they think you can pay them!

Americans have more money (and fr most of them their knowledge of geography goes as far as anyone who doesn't speak Spanish is an American) so they have more to pay with!

And it's no good saying your Dutch or Rumanian or Greek - you might as well say you are from Texas, New York or Seattle!

They also still see blowing a cab driver for the journey home as good business as they get a free ride and they don't see how many trips they could have paid for with 400 pesos.

It's absolutely frustrating trying to make them understand the basics of economy 101.They are as dumb as a doornob. That is the reason they do what they do.

In addition to that they are women, they are emotional and do not think with logic, most of these women have do not have an education and it is easier to spread your legs than use your head.

They have no concept of the outside world, just their little 30 mile area where they have lived all thier life.

MCSE

12-16-07, 14:09

I totally agree with your comments guys. They are just like you described. Congratulations!

Business mentality in argentina, in general it's something similar. For example, if you quote a photo shooting their first question is: who the client is and how big the campaign, if it's a big one, they will charge up to 5 times more. But the job, the amount of hours it's the same. Besides of the inflation, if you hire a service like keymaker, air conditioner installation, etc. They will charge differently based in the quality of the furniture, neighborhood, etc. That's why I try to keep the property as ugly as possible and quote for everything before I begin a renovation. Otherwise, when they see it's getting better, the more they quote.

Regarding the best way to negotiate a deal with the girls, being foreigner, they know you are liying since the lie it's so weak "I'm a poor american who saved for years to travel to Argentina to fuck" No, they won't buy that lie. Best thing you can do it's to learn the less bussier days, and if possible get there together with more guys, take a table and have a negotiator to deal for you. Negotiator should convince two / three / four of them to go for a flat rate, I have done this many times and 90% worked. It's a collective negotiation. Instead of hiding the money, you show that you have a lot of money to spend that night. However, just one person from your group will deal with the money issues. If you are not assigned as the negotiator, you should say, sure, I can give you a tip AFTERWARDS but I'm not carrying money right now. He is inviting us because a game / bet he lose. That way, the girl who refuses (if there is a girl who refuses to go for less and / or she wants to charge more) going for less she will see an opportunity a remote opportunity to make more cash for herself and balance her supposed lose. Another interesting factor it's the other girls will encourage the "overcharger" to go for the deal, as they see unfair another girl to be more "valuable" than herself. No matter if is true or not, what I do it's to tell the girl who accepted the deal: "look baby, I think you are much beautiful than she is, I don't see the reason why she wants more, and we have a limited budget, please talk to her, my friends and I will be very gentle and kind". So now she negotiates for me.

Also, in my opinion, and please, this is just my opinion, I don't see a good deal saving 100 pesos for a Madaho's girl. She will perform the minumum and she will biitch everything.

Thomaso276

12-16-07, 14:13

"Also, in my opinion, and please, this is just my opinion, I don't see a good deal saving 100 pesos for a Madaho's girl. She will perform the minumum and she will biitch everything."

Spot on bro.

MiddleAgeGuy

12-19-07, 20:33

I guess when a place is top dog, (or Puteria) over the competition, it will attract a certain amount of criticism.

A couple of points:

1. For a newcomer, Madaho is not to be missed as it is the largest joint in town now and is at the top of its game.

2. As with any top attraction, you usually pay the price, probably too much.

3. Not all girls can be painted with one brush, and that includes Dolly girls, Madaho girls, Hook girls, Apartment girls, and Internet girls.

4. Always remember that YMMV.

For sure check out all venues but don't miss the top attraction.

Mis 4 centavos.

MAG

Vitrea

12-19-07, 21:23

I posted my comparison of Madahos, La Lpoez and Black in the general category. I am posting the link here to avoid cross posting.

http://argentinaprivate.com/forum/showpost.php?p=378932&postcount=80

Esten

12-20-07, 00:51

I was in Madahos again recently. 60p for the entry fee which included one drink. They have remodelled a lot of the stage area, there is more floor space for the dancers and a new catwalk up high.

Place was 75% full with about equal numbers men and women. I took my time checking things out, occasionally chatting up a potential prospect. Girls were all friendly. At one point I had been talking with a blond and a brunette, with the usual jokes about how much fun I would have with both of them together. Awhile later I crossed paths with the blond and she came over and started flirting with me again. Long story short, we had a very good vibe, I bought her a drink (100p) and we hung out together awhile in the club, then left for my place (400p) whereupon a fantastic session ensued with BBBJ, DFK and multiple positions. This girl was very attractive in the club and looked even better in private, especially when the clothes came off. About 5'3, blond, slim and toned, golden tan, beautiful/cute face, b-cups. She has a Brazil look but is from Argentina. At least an 8 or 8.5. Coupled with the very good chemistry we had, it was one of my top 10 BA sessions ever. I gave her a 40p tip. She stayed about 1.5h though it was late. I have her cell number and am keeping her name to myself, with the intent to repeat and possibly keep our acquantaince going if/when she stops working the clubs.

There have been some posts where it seems some guys have soured on Madahos. Based on my visit I am not in this camp.... I had an excellent time at Madahos, good vibe and good looking girls (though I have seen higher quality here before). The club seems to be doing a good business.

Carpediem

01-04-08, 03:28

I was wondering if anybody had an experience with somebody from the club calling chica's cell phone number 1 hour after exit from the club? Today was a first time I experienced anything similar. Perhaps she pulled a trick on me. In any case, she (Sheilla is the name) told me - una copa, una hora.

My impression is that good looking girls there will mostly refuse any offer below 400p while the night is young.

In any case, it was a good experience. Sexy young girl, fun to talk with. Good service, but nothing outside of this world.

Rock Harders

01-23-08, 15:47

Mongers-

Made a stop in here last night with a buddy to check out what the talent level is looking like these days. $60 AR entrance including one drink, as always. All in all, the talent was a little disappointing, there were some very doable chicks, but perhaps the fact I did not arrive until 3am dictates that the top-shelf chicas had departed for the night. All the chicas that my buddy talked to gave him the tourist rip-off price quote of $200 USD. I offered one chica I had a mild interest in $300 AR for 3 hours and she countered with $350 AR, which I refused, since I wasn't that interested anyway.

In closing, a quick point of interest. I am watching the dancers, and who pops out as the "feature" of one of the "shows" but Analia, former contestant and winner of the El Alamo Bikini Open. She won the third bikini contest and participated in several more. She looked good, with new hard-as-rocks- looking fake tits, and way too much tanning bed action, but that ridiculously shaped and toned ass was still the same. Check out her pics from the contest on this site to get an idea.

Suerte,

Dirk Diggler

Exon123

01-23-08, 20:18

Is she on the "Program" Dirk.

Exon

Zappaman

01-26-08, 13:47

Walking back to my apartment after dinner with a friend of mine, I decided to stop into Madahos. I've went to this club since they opened and even though it's not nearly the same reality in there I still like to stop for a drink when I am in town.

Took my normal place at the bar, ordered some vino, and up walks a chica I kind of know from before. She sits down and we chit chat for a bit and then she puts on the hustle. I had no intention of taking anyone out of there but I wanted to see what kind of price a "familiar" chico would get. First she puts out the outrageous quote of U. S. $300. I give my standard "I'm a working man not a wealthy tourist, let's be reasonable here..." response (which is true...) Blah, blah, blah. Then comes the jaw dropper.

She tells me with a straight face - "Well you should give me 100 pesos for my time at the bar with you and I will move on." What the fuck is that? I just about shit my pants - she actually got pissed off when I laughed and she stomped off. Gentlemen, I have never, ever, in 5 years, been asked to tip because a chica talked to me for a while at a club.

Then I asked Silvia, the bartender, whom I've known since the begining, "what the fuck is going on? - do you know how insulting it is for this club to allow that shit?" I was highly pissed and she knew it but refused to comment on it.

Anyway, is this shit happening to others? I mean someone must be paying it or they would not ask for it. Unbelievable, and the "straw that broke the camel's back" for me in that club. I mean I can accept inflation, etc. but not that kind of shit. All good things come to an end, I guess. Madahos can get fucked as far as I'm concerned.

AllIWantIsLove

01-26-08, 16:24

I was in Orleans maybe 2 days ago and was interviewing a chica. I wan't interested in any action then, or even that day, but wanted to get her name and number and some basic info that I like to have about a chica to determine whether or not I want to see her (e. G. Price) After I was done with my questions and had returned to reading my book she asked me if I had $50 pesos for her? I looked at her astounded and said "Por." and she said, or maybe indicated, nevermind. For some reason she had wispered her request for $50 pesos in my ear, I'm not sure what that was about.

But this is nothing new. Several years ago I had more or less the same thing happen to me in San Jose, Costa Rica. In the famous bar there, is it the Blue Marlin in the Del Rey hotel? Anyway. Girl offers me "company" and I told her no as I had just had a massage. Then she asked me for money anyway? I asked her what for? Her response (she spoke excellent English, said she taught English at the university) was "because you have it and I don't".

Some of 'em have balls even if they aren't trannys.

Bob

Zappaman

01-26-08, 17:20

Maybe it's all the Euro bucks and subsequent free-for-all spending in the past two years. I get that Madahos changed from it's beginning (which was awesome back "in the day") and Recoleta in general is now high buck but asking for propina for chatting is insane - I don't care which club.

I am not a cheap bastard and over the years have made my mistakes with "rates", etc. But this is not about money - it's principle. In the economic sense they are selling. To sell, they have to impress. If mongers are suckering for paying to "evaluate" then the "world" as I know is going to hell in a handbag.

I've never, ever berated anybody for whay they pay to take out a girl - to each his own - but tips for talking is an outright insult. If my event was unique / one-time weirdness I'll accept that but I get the sense it was not unique - I guarantee you it was not unique to this chica. If it's pervasive then mongers have to complain and certainly NOT pay for chit-chat. I told the girl that night that I might have come back some other day for her but after the demand to pay her for 10 minutes of talk there's no way I even greet her nicely in the future. If Madahos or any club condones that shit then fuck 'em - without any lube - prison style!

Zappaman

Combo

01-26-08, 23:32

Zappa,

Think from the girls' POV - why not try? There will always be an idiot or two that will go along with it. Same thing with an outrageous asking price like 200-300USD. They probably won't get it but every once in a while, some stupid fuck will go along with it - so why not try?

This goes back to my ultimate reason for bargaining. If you go along with what she asks, she'll think you're weak and / or a dumbshit, and she'll give you service accordingly. Bargaining (of course always in a friendly manner) establishes respect. And respect is key to getting good treatment from women (pro or non-pro)

Jackson

01-27-08, 02:14

Pete Puma

01-27-08, 03:47

It is all about going after what you want. They want money and ask for it straight away. As a non-local you are always at risk of getting the gringo price but when you get quoted in $USD you are getting the super-gringo price. They know if you have $USD you are more likely to pay a bigger price. I always tell them that I don't have $USD and make them give me the price in pesos. If you sound like a tourist you will get the tourist price. I'm sure they don't ask a local for $USD.

Sinistra

01-27-08, 23:03

Greetings Combo,

Very well stated, and a concept that should considered by those who think that paying a girl's asking price will yield her best performance, because it won't.

Thanks,

JacksonTrue. But I've found if you like a girl, you agree to a price, you have a little fun and you want to see her again? I've found a nice tip really ups the quality of the second time—assuming too much time hasn't passed. She'll often take it as a nice compliment, be flattered and be even more fun the next.

Zappaman

01-28-08, 00:34

True. But I've found if you like a girl, you agree to a price, you have a little fun and you want to see her again? I've found a nice tip really ups the quality of the second time—assuming too much time hasn't passed. She'll often take it as a nice compliment, be flattered and be even more fun the next.Hola Sinsetra,

Giving a tip at the end of a session is all fine and good and your own personal business. The point would be to make sure you simply do not accept the first quote from the girl. They will ALL make a highball quote to a foreigner, a drunk local, whatever. Personally, and normally, if I really want the girl I usually don't ask how much - I offer what I will pay. I've been around town enough to know what's fair / the going rate so I just cut out the bullshit. Sometimes, I don't even discuss price - we just go (thanks Moondog - all hail Club Hombre - pre King Jackson days. However, to each their own.

I don't want to speak for Jackson, but I believe his point is if you don't negotiate you are a sucker (and subsequently an idiot) and they will treat you as such, one way or another. In 5 years of visiting BA I can vouch for that.

To get back to my earlier rant: I some of you are paying these girls to sit and talk / negotiate, etc. Then you are creating a whole shitload of trouble for a lot of people. If I / we stumble into a "high end" club and these girls think they can get profits just by trying to get our business then the gigs up man. Also, if someone is stupid enought to tip for chit chat only and then ever decide to return and actually take that girl out they will never be able to negotiate a fair price - ever. In the end, IMHO, it's not about the total amount of money - it's how you go about it. Be a man, be a gentleman, and in the end it usually works out well.

ZappaDork

BioGekko

03-07-08, 15:04

Geo Eye

03-07-08, 19:11

Madahos turned into a real disappointment this year, compared to last year. I'm obviously a well-heeled American, in the past that didn't matter, prices were still negotiable. Not this week! AR$600 firm price, chica after chica, no negotiation possible. Two different girls patiently explained that Americans and Europeans should pay 3x more than Argentines because we have more money. I tried to point out that everything here (not imported) costs much less than in the US or Europe, so living here was cheaper, but suddenly their ability to understand my mostly English / some Spanish mix deteriorated to zero. Had a better time at La Lopez, even if the chicas weren't quite as cute overall they were more fun.I have tried explaining that same thing to them, and of course they have no idea what I am talking about.

It usually turns out I insulted the ***** and get thrown out, Madahos is one of the places I am banned from entering, along with Black and a few others. La lopez I keep a low profile. Anyway these bitches do not no any better.

Hobbying

03-07-08, 19:35

600p an hour or TLN?

Deebeeay

03-10-08, 04:42

Apologies if I repeat some observations from last report back in December. Was recently in Madahos. I quite like the place because it is fairly well run - great dancers, good staff etc. In that regard I don't mind the entrance fee. I was there on a Thursday, one of the bigger nights. The standard of chick was just awful. My litmus test is - would I bother if she was free? At least 70% did not pass. The remaining chicks, well at 300 to 400 pesos for the girl plus extras, hard to justify. The only ones worth it, that night would have been the dancers. Not quite true, I did see a fantastic mulatta, but she looked so down in the mouth (I think business is bad) that I did not bother. I stuck it out until the bitter end (3.30) expecting that some of the hotter ones might be returning from an early client - but nothing of note walked back in the door.

Probably not the place for this, but walking home I picked up a young amateur. It was far less complicated and confrontational than Madahos would have been. Food for thought, no?

Was also in Black. Was genuinely elated by the massive improvement in standard. It had gone down, but has shot up again. No comparison with Madahos. Mind you, the quality of dancers has dropped. Dropped 180US$ -I paid in dollars - for a beautiful girl, Angeles. Very dark, large chest, wavey brown hair, 23 why / o, gap between her teeth. Wonderful!

Since last writing have been busy with the internet. Carola of Baires girls is a very good experience. Aolony, also of Baires, is also well worth it. For demonic dirty sex, you cannot beat Flopy of altosex. At 40 pesos a whack, it is all the more enjoyable. But not for the faint hearted. Britney (I think) of Baires nearly sent me to meet my maker.

Finally, some hog approached me in Madahos and told me the last time I had been in there. I do not know what she meant about it. Idiot. I don't know, there seems to be a lot of bad attitude floating around the clubs - resentment etc. I am always grateful when one of the chicks gives me the "you are a foreigner you can afford it" - I will take a 5 minute unpleasant experience in the club ahead of a massive waste of cash in a telo with some bitter skivvy peasant. I have no time for that crap. Next!

Keep on truckin'

Hobbying

03-24-08, 07:30

Saw 3 girls there this month.

First Pamela whose is 22yo 5'1 huge DD, bleach blonde and really skinny. Seems like a real pro, everything was negotiated like BBJ and CIM. DFK was ok. Nice wet sloppy bbj. She did bad porn acting but was at least inspiring during the money shot lol. So I rate the session as ok. I'd see her again if I can tolerate her bad porn acting skills lol.

Second saw Wendy. She's 30yo 5'8 long blonde hair and D cup. I always ask the girls how long they've worked there to know who I am dealing with and she said 4 years. No doubt a pro and would give a decent session since she's been at the club that long. She sat w / me at the club for 2+ hours. She was really pretty imo so I took her home. DFK but cbj which is a downer since she has a tongue ring. We got into it for an hour and then fell asleep. I'd repeat even though its cbj since she's very gfe.

Third girl is Mia. She's from Brasil, about 5'3 long black hair c cup. She would only go to the hourly motel next door. Took her since it was late and no one really good looking left. I knew it would be a bad session cuz she took her time in the bathroom. She did cbj, no dfk, but she was tight at least. Not a good experience so wouldn't repeat.

I asked about the dancers cuz some of them are really hot. Theres usually 4 of them. Manager said it was something like 300p for their drink and 1500p for girl. I would do it if I knew the girl I wanted does greek and bbbjcimnqns. Not many hot girls do those so it would be worth my pesos imo.

Esten

03-25-08, 23:29

In my opinion Pamela is one of the hottest girls I've ever seen at Madahos (aside from dancers). In addition to her slim tan body and fantastic rack, she has an attractive face. Porn star attractive not girl-next-door attractive. If I hadn't been with an independant just a few hours earlier I would have taken her myself. Actually I went back to Madahos another night looking for Pamela, but couldn't find her. Also you don't read too much about CIM here and I bet not too many girls do it, so to be with a girl like Pamela and finish with CIM is a real PSE. You did pretty good for your first night in BA!

Esten

03-25-08, 23:48

I took out a girl from Madahos by the name of Natasha. Brunette, face and body about a 7 both. Not the hottie I usually go for, but she had a large chest (C/D cup) and a fun personality and was the best option I could find at that particular hour. I had chatted with her briefly a couple times over the two hours I was in the club and knew she hadn't had any customers since I was there. Still, she tried to negotiate up from my 400p offer but I wouldn't budge and she eventually agreed on 400p. We got along well and had a good time. BBBJ but not DFK. Might repeat.

Esten

03-25-08, 23:59

BTW, I must say on both nights I was in Madahos, it became a real sausage fest later in the night. Especially the second night which was a Wednesday. I remember looking around from the far back side and seeing a sea of guys with just a handful of girls. Most of the girls were around the corner nearer the entrance, but still the ratio of guys:girls was about 3:1 that second night. Not good!!

Pilar is the hottest dancer IMO.

Nicole the brazilian is still working here. Didn't take her out this time.

Rockin Bob

03-31-08, 17:24

I went into Madahos Friday night and I talked to two chicas and they each quoted me 600 pesos.

600 pesos! I haven't been in Madahos in a while, I guess ever since the girls were quoting 450 pesos and refused to budge.

With the chica drink and your drink we're over 700 pesos. That's way too much to get laid.

I ain't lyin, my best girl in the past two or three months was from Baires Girls 150 pesos + taxi.

BOTTOM LINE: 600 is ridiculous and I think you could realistically get a Madahos girl to come down to 400 pesos and if it was late, the girl not that hot, maybe 300 but I wouldn't count on it.

Jaimito Cartero

03-31-08, 17:50

I stopped going to Madahos when they were still quoting 300p, so I guess I'm way behind the times. I just don't see any sense in paying that amount of money.

Hobbying

04-24-08, 18:41

Anyone been to the other one in Mar de Plata?

http://www.madahos.com/ubicacion_e.html

Bassmanic

05-22-08, 19:55

I can confirm that the prices were 600 pesos in this place. 70 entry fee, expensive drinks. I was on expenses and by 1:00 was feeling horny, so I took home this chica named Ornella. One thing I will say that there were any very fine girls and very few fuglies. Unfortunately I lost the charger to my phone, so I didnt have any batteries to take pics, but she was about 5'5", 38D all natural, and perfectly proportioned otherwise. Spoke great English which was definitely a plus. BBBJ and multiple positions, plus a 1/2 ass massage, but I enjoyed myself.

One bizarre note that was kind of funny and weird. All night at the bar she kept referring to herself as "My wife from Buenos Aires". As we were doing the deed she (being a screamer, definite plus in my book) kept screaming "I am your wife!" Not exactly what I wanted to hear. Lol.

On another note, and I will post this in the hotels portion also, I am staying at the NH Florida on San Martin, and it is girl friendly. Got the honeymoon suite for $150/ night. Free internet access and a bar downstairs, plus 1/2 a block from Orleans.

Jackson

05-25-08, 14:03

Greetings Everyone,

I moved the evolving discussion regarding chica prices to the thread titled "Chica Pricing - General Discussion".

http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2259

Thanks,

Jackson

Lagarto2

06-29-08, 17:45

I saw in Madaho's bar a beautiful dark hear ***** so nice.

I'l be back soon.

Gunner1

06-30-08, 13:14

Jackson

06-30-08, 13:25

My first post.

I was in BA back in the early 80's, military dictatorship, 1,000 % inflation, gas crisis, Malvides, etc. And retuned this year in March. People are more proud, but live for today, no confidence in anything, thus, you see no new buildings, investments, nothing.

But, mongering is still great. I am a fan of New Orleans, and Periplos, scared of private apartments. Just timid and shy, and afraid, maybe I need to go to prividos with someone else to assure me. But there is a Maria in CNO who is great, BBBJ, DFK, friendly, not a clock watcher, etc. Then at Periplos, Donna is great, same, fun, GFE.Hi Gunner1,

Welcome to the forum.

I appreciate your participation, but why did you post your general "then and now" comments about Argentina in a thread for a specific club?

Perhaps your comments might have been better posted in the "Living in Argentina" section, or the "Argentine Real Estate" section, or pretty much anywhere else other than the thread for Madahos.

Anyway, in the future please consider the subject of your report and the topic of the proposed thread when you post.

Thanks,

Jackson

Gunner1

06-30-08, 13:52

Hi Gunner1,

Welcome to the forum.

I appreciate your participation, but why did you post your general "then and now" comments about Argentina in a thread for a specific club?

Perhaps your comments might have been better posted in the "Living in Argentina" section, or the "Argentine Real Estate" section, or pretty much anywhere else other than the thread for Madahos.

Anyway, in the future please consider the subject of your report and the topic of the proposed thread when you post.

Thanks,

JacksonSorry, I am new to the forum, and I will take your guidance in the future. I apologize that I posted in the wrong thread. Geez.

Yoosin

07-16-08, 12:19

Dodger Bulldog and I arrived at Madahos around 2AM cover charge 70AR which gets you one drink.

The place was absolutely packed, must have take 5 minutes just to work our way up to the stage and watch the dancers for a bit. The dancers are truly stunning. Working our way back to the bar to pickup a drink and of to find a seat way off to the side.

We where approached by a couple for chicas who where no better then the 7's you can pull out of Newport. There is a marked increase of the available 8-10's in this place. The chicas all pressed for a drink pretty quickly which we declined and they where gone. One of the chicas explained that the dancers are also available but the chica drink for them is 280AR and their one hour fee is 1000AR and up.

OK so now its coming on on 4:30 the place has really thined out and I decide to see wha kind of deals can be made. I comment on this 5'7" blonde and dodger calls her over and then splits on his own mission. Laura is Paraguayan and she confirms the chica drinks are 120AR and takeout is 600AR. I negotiate her down to 400AR but then she at the last minute insists on going to some hotel rather then my apartment around the corner. That along with the sense that this would end up be strickly 1 hour including a list of unacceptable rules - I politely break off negotiations.

Call it a night and save mas leche por manana.

Yoosin

Exon123

07-16-08, 16:02

My take on Madaho's,

Reading Yoosin's post below tells me that the inflation in the Argentine economy is forcing some changes in Mongering in places such as Madaho's, Black, etc.

Prices are outlandish, with $70 peso's for a tourist admission, a $120 peso' Chica drink, (thats $40 USD Mongers) and $600 peso dates with Chica's, (another $200 USD) After its all said and done you can Monger here in Sex Prison at a better rate. Your looking at $300 USD by the time you factor in taxi's and other incidentals. Add in the expensine airline ticket, apartment rental, food and the like, divided by the number of Orgasmo's and your talking about some pretty expensive pussy, that doesn't even speak your language.

But one thing stuck out in Yoosin's post that gave me pause. His comment that Madaho's was over stocked with high caliber 8's -!0's.

This tells me that the inflation in the Argentine economy is forcing out better and better looking girls from the provincia's into Recoleta with hopes of making some money to support their families. After all if they can score two dates a week, thats $5,000 peso's a month, still pretty good money for Argentina.

My strategy, and especially for you "newbie's and rookie first time visitors would be to cut a deal with the girl in question for another time.

Pick out your target and then flat ass lie to her, telling her how beautiful she is and you'd really like to "Go With Her". But since the American economy is so bad you can't afford her prices. Then suggest that a $300 peso's price would be exceptable sometime the next day. Given the fact that the girls don't show up for work until about 11:30 or later, suggest a 9:30 or 10:00 pm tee off time.

What were talking about here is the girl leaves home on the bus or train a couple hours earlier and has a sure thing. A $300 peso's date even before she starts work with the hope of making $600 more latter that night.

I've personally employed this strategy with success in Solid Gold and it works. Yes you have to use a little salesmanship and your Mongering skill's. You have to talk her out of her phone number, maybe give her $10 peso taxi fare from the bus or train to your apartment. But over all you've saved your self a hundred dollar bill, rather than paying the "Nose Picker" price of the tourist.

Mongering tip's by.

Exon

Stan Da Man

07-16-08, 20:14

I don't have too much to add to what Yoosin said about Madaho's, but I have spent a fair amount of time there and know several folks who work there. A few things I can confirm:

- Some dancers will go out, but not all. The hosts will know who will and who won't (or they'll ask for you) The prices Yoosin quotes are accurate. It's $USD500 for the dancers. The price is set by Madaho's. I doubt it's absolute, but they try to tell the girls that they can't go out for less in order to keep the price up for the rest. Some girls may go for less, but this is where they'll start, and they won't go for less with Madaho's blessing.

- Likewise with the non-dancer chicas: The minimum price is $USD 200 ($AR600) Again, this is set by Madaho's and their goal is to keep the prices up for all the working girls. I'm not commending it, but it is fact.

- Madaho's enforces the prices with the working girls through their locker room. There are 2 - 3 attendants on duty. When a girl arrives for work, she changes into her uniform and give the rest of her belongings to an attendant. The girls have to declare how much cash they have. If they don't declare it and something gets stolen, they are out of luck, so they declare everything. Then, if they go out on a date and return, they again have to declare their cash when they change back into their uniform again. If it's not at least US$200 (AR$600) more than when they first arrived, then Madaho's knows they are cutting deals below the minimum. Obviously, there are plausible excuses (john didn't pay; I spent some $ before coming back; etc. But, if a girl consistently fails to comes back with at least $200 more than what she left with, Madaho's can spot the trend. Yoosin probably negotiated a better deal because it was late and the girl was not planning to come back. It's a good way to beat their tracking system.

- Madaho's is expensive. As Yoosin pointed out, it's also packed every night of the week. I'm not sure whether it's inflation driving the prices so much as supply and demand. The girls there make good money. There are many 8s, 9s and 10s, in my opinion. I've been told the average monthly take for the average working girl there, and I think many on this board would not believe it. I'm not sure I do, either, but I got roughly the same answer from two independent sources who work there. So, my guess is that Exon is correct: The $$ there are luring in many who might not otherwise participate.

The way girls get "recruited" for Madaho's is also somewhat interesting, but it's kind of beyond this thread. Anyway, I doubt I've added much, but I can corroborate what Yoosin writes and what Exon speculates.

BadMan

07-16-08, 20:18

Great post.

A couple corrections.

The dancers drink is $ 400 AR, I know (I buy them from time to time)

The dancers that do go out (not all of them go out) usually start asking around $ 500-600 US.

If you are willing to spend that kind of money, I would say. Madahos dancers are the best looking working girls in Buenos Aires.

Hands down.

Regards,

BM.

Dodger Bulldog and I arrived at Madahos around 2AM cover charge 70AR which gets you one drink.

The place was absolutely packed, must have take 5 minutes just to work our way up to the stage and watch the dancers for a bit. The dancers are truly stunning. Working our way back to the bar to pickup a drink and of to find a seat way off to the side.

We where approached by a couple for chicas who where no better then the 7's you can pull out of Newport. There is a marked increase of the available 8-10's in this place. The chicas all pressed for a drink pretty quickly which we declined and they where gone. One of the chicas explained that the dancers are also available but the chica drink for them is 280AR and their one hour fee is 1000AR and up.

OK so now its coming on on 4:30 the place has really thined out and I decide to see wha kind of deals can be made. I comment on this 5'7" blonde and dodger calls her over and then splits on his own mission. Laura is Paraguayan and she confirms the chica drinks are 120AR and takeout is 600AR. I negotiate her down to 400AR but then she at the last minute insists on going to some hotel rather then my apartment around the corner. That along with the sense that this would end up be strickly 1 hour including a list of unacceptable rules - I politely break off negotiations.

Call it a night and save mas leche por manana.

Yoosin

Reeperbahn

07-16-08, 22:22

I was at Madahos last night aroun 1 o'clock.

There was a stripper with long straight black hair to her shoulders dancing on the mainstage and the upstairs.

She was wearing sunglasses when she was dancing on the mainstage.

She has voloptuous curves, big implants (maybe 100) nice hard looking big butt.

She looks more brazilian than argentinian.

The waiter didn't want to tell me her name, nor did he say if she does escort service.

Instead, he told me to buy her a 400 pesos drink and ask her in person.

I asked a couple of regular girls I know and 2 said that she doesn't have sex for money.

I believe what these 2 girls were trying to do is discourage me so that I could spend my money on them.

This stripper has a v-shaped tribal-like tattoo underneath her belly button.

It is quite large, and I am sure that many people know which girl I am talking about.

Her body is quite different to the rest of the girls.

I would appreciate any info on this girl, if she goes out for money, her name, hell, even her cell number would be good!

Ps. I spent an hour with a black girl who claims to be porto rican. She doesn't speak one word of english, has long black straightened hair, and is the best looking out of all of the girls.

She is full of tattoos and I think she has a nose ring.

I didnt have fun. No kissing, no bbbj, no anal, celulitis, augmented breasts because of breast feeding her child.

Don't do her.

Yoosin

07-17-08, 13:33

BM - thanks for the response. $400AR? Thats interesting, It makes me wonder why the chica I talked to tell me $280AR. Anyway at 280 or 400 it beyond what I am going to spend on chicas this trip.

Yoosin

Dodger Bulldog

07-17-08, 14:00

Anyway at 280 or 400 it beyond what I am going to spend on chicas this trip.And that is not to fuck her, but merely to be honored by having her presence at your table for a few moments. Geezus!

DB

Daddy Rulz

07-17-08, 17:58

Madahos, nuts. 200 bucks US to say hello. Fuck that!

Deebeeay

07-18-08, 19:56

I was quite surprised by the statement that Madahos girls have to declare their cash on hand when entering and leaving, and that this is a way the club ensures that the girls do not undercharge. I decided to check it out for myself last night. Went in and left with a girl for 400 pesos. A bit less than the supposed 600 pesos enforced minimum. Granted, I have known the girl for a few years. I asked her about the cash check in the lady's changing rooms. She laughed and said that some of the girls spin that story when negotiating price with clients.

She added that business is slow due to a combination of reasons: (a) the quality of the dancers means that guys are coming in to look at the dancers (be) the new entry and chica drink fees are killing them (c) quantity and improved quality of all night privados (d) more spanish speaking tourists, better able to negotiate.

Top marks to whoever came up with that elaborate tail of money checks in cloackrooms.

Pull the other one, it has bells on it. Please lads, stop making it easy for the sharks.

WhiteCat

07-18-08, 22:50

There are too many fish in the BA sea to be paying those prices. Just too much. I'd like to know how many chicas there don't even go out of the place for the week. It's the best thing in the world for the 9's and 10's, but after so much wear and tear who wants them?

Short Rib

07-22-08, 23:25

Picked this one up at Madahos last year. Can anyone tell me if they have been with her as well? I don't know if I enjoyed the experience while staring at Satan the entire time. But I have to say it was different.

Skifozo

07-23-08, 00:03

Never seen anything like that around. How did that go down?

Carpediem

08-08-08, 05:52

400 pesos is known as price for Argentines. Girls just need to be convinced that that's all what you're paying. Of course, it is easier to convince them after 3am. I have run into a beatiful chica there whom I'm now seeing regularly before her work for 300 pesos for a random period of time.

But I have also run into a clock-watcher who started complaining after 15 minutes about anything one could imagine. Oh well. If you run into good looking blond from Missiones called Patricia, run away from her as fast as you can.

Short Rib

08-09-08, 22:43

Amigo, if you can find any girl at Madaho's today who will go for AR$ 300, regardless what hour, then you've done good. Let us know who's selling at this price today please.

Carpediem

08-10-08, 14:54

If you go out with any random girl from Madahos (for any price) and if you ask her if she would see you before her work the following day for 300 pesos, I think 90% will say yes. I mean, hey, you can find better looking girls on internet for 200, and some experts here will claim that's much too much as well!

An alternative, mentioned here as well, is not to go out with a girl at all, but get her phone number. That works if she has a feeling that you're a reasonable person since they are explicitly forbidden to make these types of arrangements.

Amigo, if you can find any girl at Madaho's today who will go for AR$ 300, regardless what hour, then you've done good. Let us know who's selling at this price today please.

Master J

08-10-08, 15:39

"An alternative, mentioned here as well, is not to go out with a girl at all, but get her phone number. That works if she has a feeling that you're a reasonable person since they are explicitly forbidden to make these types of arrangements. "

I hope to be there in a month or so. Regarding getting phone numbers. I would imagine management feels strongly that giving out numbers cuts in to their cut, so how is it possible for the the girls to do so? Hard to memorize these cells phone #s.

What I am constantly astonished by is the lack of bartering that most Argentinian people display. Frequently I have asked how much 1 hour is, then ask how much for the day or multiple hours. They almost always just multiply the hourly rate. Also I always ponder why they would rather leave empty handed for the night then split and take a hit and at least get something.

I have found this with Jumbo on Evian water, $1.85 a bottle x 12 for a 12 pack. Hello bulk purchase? Rents as well when I have asked for 2 weeks vs 1 week rate. Or in a privado when I know the rate is 150 P and all have been hearing 200P.

I believe locally there is much discussion on what to pay, just after 5 years traveling here, I have been mostly lucky with the right players. Sorry if this stretch the limits of the Madahos topic, but is this is getting closer to Sexprison pricing?

Carpediem

08-11-08, 16:31

A girl from Madajos actually told me last night that it's ok for them to give a phone number after you buy them a drink.

Another peace of information which at least I wasn't aware of - at 3am they can leave for TLN with one drink. This particular chica was happily sitting there with me till 2:50 enjoying her copa slowly so that I wouldn't be attacked to buy another one. Well, the fact that it was a slow Sunday night probably helped.

Regarding bartering, the quote was 400 for 1 hour, 500 till lunch time. Go figure:) [But I have to agree that this wasn't my common experience.]

"An alternative, mentioned here as well, is not to go out with a girl at all, but get her phone number. That works if she has a feeling that you're a reasonable person since they are explicitly forbidden to make these types of arrangements. "

I hope to be there in a month or so. Regarding getting phone numbers. I would imagine management feels strongly that giving out numbers cuts in to their cut, so how is it possible for the the girls to do so? Hard to memorize these cells phone #s.

What I am constantly astonished by is the lack of bartering that most Argentinian people display. Frequently I have asked how much 1 hour is, then ask how much for the day or multiple hours. They almost always just multiply the hourly rate. Also I always ponder why they would rather leave empty handed for the night then split and take a hit and at least get something.

I have found this with Jumbo on Evian water, $1.85 a bottle x 12 for a 12 pack. Hello bulk purchase? Rents as well when I have asked for 2 weeks vs 1 week rate. Or in a privado when I know the rate is 150 P and all have been hearing 200P.

I believe locally there is much discussion on what to pay, just after 5 years traveling here, I have been mostly lucky with the right players. Sorry if this stretch the limits of the Madahos topic, but is this is getting closer to Sexprison pricing?

Member #3320

08-16-08, 14:07

My Report on my visit to Madahos:

REACHING MADAHOS:

Took a taxi from Las Canitas to Recoleta. Total cost Arg 18. The taxi driver was ignorant of location of the club. However, I had already studied & learnt the (Jackson's) Recoleta map by heart and I was able to guide him, though it was my first visit. The cabbie tried to cajole me into going to "Black" but I told him, not to worry about that.& just take me where I needed to go.

Btw, Madahos is about 700 metres (v approx) away from Black.

ARRIVAL MADAHOS:

On arrival at club, even before I entered, the pimps of the club were soliciting me to enter. They even spoke in English, Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, in trying ensure I understood them. The poor guys were wasting their time as I was anyway heading there. However, if you are just a"passer-by", no need to get bullied, take your time to take the decision.

I had to pay 70Arg$ to enter. Well, I knew about the prices, thanks to the reports of the senior mongers on this forum.

INSIDE THE MADAHOS:

Well, my first impression. I was disappointed! I was expecting tremendous amount of "eye-candy" specially it being a Friday Night at 1.30 am. However, this is not to say that good looking girls were not there. There were plenty of unattractive girls as well! BTW, the 70Arg$ allows you to avail a free drink such as beer, whiskey, vodka etc. Being a humble drinker, I settled for the local beer. The girl poured it in a whiskey glass for me, which I didn't like, as beer is best when drunk from original bottle OR in a beer mug.

Inside the club was very hot. Those of you wearing very heavy winter clothing, do not despair. They have a system of collecting your woolens or bags. You get a token with a number. You have to return this token to get your stuff back. You can pay 5Arg$ to the girl who is doing this, as token money in return for this important service.

GIRLS:

There seemed to be all kinds of girls from very good looking to average to really ordinary plain Janes. There were girls who looked 18 years old to those who looked 40 years old. The important thing to consider here is that you still have to pay more or less same amount of money to get anyone out irrespective of her age or looks.

Hence, I would advise to go for the ones with most killer looks and best body!

Some of the pretty girls on lower (18~20) age group looked pretty awkward and out of place to me. It seemed to me as if they were ashamed to be there!

Some of the old ones were very irritating. Where ever my line of sight went. I found them. They were trying v hard for business but from my point of view, they didn't deserve the high Madahos rates for sure.

THE CROWD:

Lot of Latinos, tourists, expats were to be seen. All looking very happy to be there. Who would not be, considering the amount of eye candy!

Everyone was behaving themselves. I did not witness any fights, aggressive behavior etc.

DRINKS:

I did not indulge in a 2nd drink as my first beer was making me feel v sleepy. And along with the amount of nicotine floating in the air, the head was quite drugged by itself.

However, its convenient to buy a drink as then you are allowed to take a seat. Otherwise, despite the high numbers of empty seats available, I was bullied into getting up more than once by different bartenders throughout the night.

TALKING TO GIRLS:

I did see many clients talking to girls even without a drink. It sure helps if you speak Spanish. However, most girls will first ask you to order a drink to have a proper chat in a cosy corner in the bar. I personally took a long time to decide whom I wanted to take out. There were six to eight "8" s present. Most of them looked v professional & unfriendly and did not feel like spending my money of them. However, ultimately I did like one very much. She looked v fresh in the scene and also looked friendly but as I was walking towards her, another gentleman took her for a private drink and it ended my desire to take any other girl from Madahos this night.

STRIP TEASE & DANCING GIRLS :

They have been highly talked about by senior mongers and my friends. Well, definitely 2-3 of them were really good lookers with perfect body and pretty pert faces. However, they all looked v professional, with no innocence left after their work experience.

I did not try buying them a drink. I heard from senior mongers that its up to 500 Arg$ just to buy a drink and chat with them.

Will I advise that to a newbie?
Well, the total cost in buying a drink and taking them out would be close to 400~500 Us$. Its a doable price as some of the top looking girls in London or New York or Moscow or Dubai would cost that much anyway. However, being in BA where cheap "pay for play" is available, i think its prudent to use your money wisely, especially if your money is as hard earned as mine.

STRIP TEASE SHOWS :

One of the advantages of buying a 70 Arg$ drink is that you can stay there for 3~4 hours with just one drink and feast your eyes with the strip tease shows of some real lookers. Approximately 1 strip per hour.All girls were going full nude and showing the front but it was too dark to see them well.

DEPARTURE FROM MADAHOS :

It was close to 5.15 am when I left. Only 25% of crowd was left to what it was when I entered at 1.30am. The best chicas were already taken or gone.
The 40 yr olds were still hanging around hoping for the last minute success

OVERVIEW & CONCLUSION :

Its a good place for eye candy. Its a good place for strip tease shows. Its a very safe place.If you like very good looking girls, you will find them there.
Its upto you if its within your budget to take them out or not.

A word of caution. If you do take them, try your best to negotiate the number of hours, if they will do BBBJ or Cola or DFK or not. Many of the good looking ones will not do,if you have been seen in the club for first time. Or they might ask more money for Cola or BBBJ once in the hotel room or your cosy apartment. Its not to say that girls are bad but its just a way to make more money from the new rich clients, visiting for first time.

If you are looking for cheaper options, look up in Private apartments posts, where I & senior mongers have listed about them in detail

WILL I GO THERE AGAIN?

Yes, its a good place for eye candy, strip shows and on the day you have money to splurge, you can get a "8" or maybe a "9" from there. However, having tasted "8"s in the budget privados in BA, I have to really think hard if I want to pay 4 to 5 times the price to take a "8" from here.

ENJOY B.A!!!

Exon123

08-16-08, 14:32

Captain,

Madaho's is for tourist's and there prices are simply unacceptable.

Knowledgeable mongers will not go their.

Try down town in the "Triangle", Catto's, Hook or Ness, the prices are half of what you pay in Recoleta.

Exon - aka "CockSucker"

Gato Hunter

08-16-08, 15:15

When you get in a cab for Madahos tell the can driver its your first time there and to not run the meter. He gets a commission from the club. I did this last week and the taxista confirmed its 25 pesos.

You can only do this a few times until they catch on, or you are well known there like me.

The going rate now is 350-400p for an hour or 600 for TLN. The term TLN is different with each girl, find out if she has kids to get in the morning, or better yet has nothing to do until the train can take her back to the provincia.

If you have some cash to burn ask for Juan Carlos. Its the manager guy with the pony tail. You don't have to get that silly drink ticket, you can get a good seat in front for the dancers and a waitress on standby. I tip well though.

I was in there last night for most of the night. I ended up taking a 21 year old spinner with the firmest ass I have ever felt. She lives two blocks from my apartment and stayed until 11am.

The best thing to do though if your on a budget is get phone numbers. I even do this. I have been repeat banging 3 girls this trip from madahos. The first time was 400p for the hour, then I call her and its 400p TLN, or even better 200p for one before she goes to work.

As far as buying the drink goes, you don't have to buy a girl a drink to talk to her for a short bit. Yeah you need to buy one if you want to take her back to the couch to fingerbang her and play tonsil hockey. I usually work everything out prior to the drink. Then take them back to the couch see how hot they are.

I had to cut my losses the other night. I bought one a drink that I thought was good to go and she went cold on the couch. I sent her away and got a new chica.

Brian Dwayne

08-21-08, 19:30

I was Buenos Aires last Monday and went to Madahos, and I would like to thank everybody for the do and don't regarding the chicas. If not reading previous posts, I probably would have got taken for some outragous US$

Hardseed

09-12-08, 12:58

I was in Buenos Aires in June. Visited Madahos. Also visited Blacks while I was there. IMHO Madahos has better girls even though Blacks is more expensive. Went with a Turkish mixed with Mestizo who rocked my world. My favourite in BA is Orleans; like that arrangement very much. Wish such an arrangement was available in other countries.

Member #3320

09-12-08, 14:23

In my opinion, and I guess everyone has a right to opinion.

Black is more about beauty combined with class / while Madahos is purely about beauty.

Fernando22

09-12-08, 16:07

In my opinion, and I guess everyone has a right to opinion.

Black is more about beauty combined with class / while Madahos is purely about beauty.Black is across the street from Hotel Alvear, one of the more distinguish hotels in be. A.

That has to do with Captain's statement.

Breakawaytx

09-21-08, 20:34

I know that the prices have gone up here, but I have caught a whiff of low-key economic panic on this trip and thought that I might be able to pull something off. I have always felt that this club has the best talent in BA, and I have always had the best experience with the girls I have taken from there, with the notable exception of a hair-raising adventure with Anabella from AV during my last visit two years ago.

As I mentioned in another post, privados are not to my liking for a variety of reasons, and I come here expecting to pay fair market prices but not to bargain hunt. Internet girls have only satisfied about a third of the time, so the risk adjusted price is no lower than a club where I know exactly what I'm getting ahead of time.

Anyway, I met a very beautiful brunette with sweet eyes and a gentle face. She was stunning and clearly did not belong there. I bought her a drink, we talked and made out for awhile, then got down to price. We ultimately agreed on 500 for a relaxed, multi-hour visit at my apartment nearby. She was true to her word, service was completely GFE plus plus plus, probably the best sex I've had since the first night with my last girlfriend. I woke up with her in my arms just before lunch the next day.

Anyway, just a quick note to let some of you know that the classic BA experience is still available at the clubs for visitors if you have a keen eye and take the time to establish a connection prior to negotiations. If you think that I overpaid, then feel free to tell me where else I can find a passionate, GFE-style solid 9 who will stay for six hours and make me feel like a human being instead of an ATM.

BTW, before your dirty bastards (:-) start asking for her name, I am withholding it until I leave country and am done with her - after that I will gladly share.

On a negative note, the surly jackasses behind the bar refused to provide my free drink and "lost" my credit card. One became aggressive and I had to get a bit assertive. The staff here sucks and they can all kiss my gringo a$$, the rotten bastards.

Member #3320

09-24-08, 08:43

I was here on Tuesday night / wed morning. Arrived here at 2.30 am a bit late! I recommend arriving here at least by 0030. By 0230, some of the best chicas were already leaving with clients. I was here till 0430. I must say and agree with my buddy, Badman that chicas here are definitely more pretty than any other Boliche in BA. Some of them had really perfect extremely kissable faces. However, I was not in a mood to splurge so I never picked a chica from her. Only asked one very smoking hot chica her price and she quoted 450 pesos at 0430. I proposed 250 ARS (just to test the waters) and she acted as if I had abused her or something!

Anyway, left the place and headed for Cocodrilo.

Master J

09-27-08, 23:41

I went to Madhos last night with a fellow mongerer and having his company was definitely more enjoyable than any of my club experiences.

I am glad I tried the club as I have been a Black fan more many years. The atmosphere was much more casual and the girls were more approachable and were easy to dismiss pleasantly if there was no interest. I would say mostly 6, 7, and an 8 here or there. After Black there are no other dancers in the world for me to look at.

Shortly into the evening I saw an absolute doll walk buy and I muttered to myself " what a beautiful woman". She stopped and said " what a beautiful man! I know many mongerers don't believe in the 10 rating, but versus the talent there that night she was 9. Something.

So we hooked up and she was mesmerizing to me. Her eyes were bright and her porcelain dolls shaped body was absolutely awesome. She was a true standout.

She eventually brought over her sister of 18 for my wingman, and I settled in for some conversation. Eventually the drink and I said for your fone # yes. She agreed.

I buy the 120 drink and she is saying she would love to see Las Vegas, New York, etc. I would say that is probably the most important ingredient any foreigner brings to the table. Hope. Probably a player, but such an innocent face and simple gestures it would be easy for anyone to fall for this one.

My buddy is fending off the sister rather well and I ask for the phone number. She says let's meet somewhere. I say jokingly McDonalds she says which one. Ha. SO she says get a pen and give me address. I go into the bathroom and forgot my address and phone numbe! I guessed wrong on the paper. I come out and say she must give me her number, She says not here. That is what I have posted times before. There is no way management would approve.

Finally got the number and now I am set up with dinner and more perhaps for $200. I have not called to give my right address, but I was thinking about going there tonite to see if she was worth the last night in town.

Anyway the club was great and I would recommend if you are in town.

Leaving I was bombarded with hawkers from other club. I walked quickly.

Gauntlet77

09-28-08, 20:18

Hey Master J, buddy, nice to have you along on Friday night. It was a blast.

Just getting over my hangover from last night and this hits me like an acid flashback.

Yeah, she initially said she was 18 and then quickly said 19. She was blond and slutty hot. Like a highschool cheerleader on a hot night with her panties down to her knees. The kind who has to take the gum out of her mouth before she shoves her tongue down your throat. I resisted her as best I could without being ungentlemanly. She drew closer, I reached for my drink. She thrust her pelvis into mine, I didn't thrust back. She whispered in my ear, I just nodded and glanced around the room. She put her hands around my waist and dryhumped me. I was beginning to lose my cool. I was hoping she wouldn't notice I was getting a hardon. I bailed, said I had to go to the bathroom.

Why fight off a slutty hot cheerleader? You may ask. One, she might have even been younger than 18 and I don't know for certain whether she's jailbait. In Rio, I heard about underage girls and the police running a shakedown on mongers: Underage girl solicits monger to hotel room. After quick service, she declares her real age and demands a huge sum of money or she goes to the police. If monger refuses to pay, she screams her head off and the partner cop, who is conveniently nearby, breaks down the door. Monger pays up. This sticks in my mind because I had a close call in Rio with a Help girl who said she was 19. Our taxi was stopped at a police checkpoint and she had to produce documentation. She turned out to be 18! But 18 is legal in Brazil. BTW, the police in Rio carry submachine guns so this cements the memory in my mind.

Two, I had a hot date with the novia candidate the following night and didn't want to mess up the sheets.

I kind of felt sorry for ms. Hotpants though. She was still there waiting for me after I returned from the bathroom and she put in another 10 to 13 minutes of hard sell. Looking back on it, maybe I should have tipped her for the standing lapdance.

Jaggar

10-02-08, 21:49

Cruised into Madaho last night at 330AM. Several very good looking and friendly chicas. Doorman lets me slide w / no copa. Propositioned a couple different girls. $600AR + exit copa is more than I can tolerate.

Hung out and at 430 cruised out for $300AR, with sweet 25yr old chica by name of sylvia (her real name) Met her outside to bypass the (her) copa. SHe met me by pueyrredon. Walked to my apt and fucked hard and with awesome BBBJ and ball lickin.

Will I do her again? No. I have a rule that I never like to do same chica more than 1x.

Advice, get there late and lowball.

Jaggar

Gipse

10-07-08, 01:54

It's been a while since I'd been in Madahos. Sunday night decided to spend some time in the place. It's a slow night but I wasn't looking for action. Paid my $70p and entered into an unfamiliar scene - few men and minimal smoke.

There were a decent number of chicas getting bored in there. I asked one why she was there on a slow night. She said she had no choice, she had to be there (management rules)

I was quoted $200US /$600p by the few who approached me. With a $120p bar fine on top, it's not an appealing proposition. Around closing time, I was tempted by a 9 (in my books) I told her if she charges me local rate we could leave right then. She wasn't willing to go any lower than $500p so I passed.

Neo5235

10-08-08, 06:47

THe place was packed with chicas and awsome ones too. Their stickin to 600 plus copa though and we were there at 3 stayed till 400. Pulled a 19 year old, forgot her name but her sister works there too. Bangin body. Great sex. She pulled out oil and I oiled her up then hit it. I splurged tonight. First time I paid that. Crazy but I wanted it won't pay that again. Usual is 3 plus taxi. I'm putting together awsome recomendations of call girls. I won't post till we leave though. Makin a few recalls. Had great luck online though. Ill post em all for you guys. Wish I knew were to grab chicas at 6 am for incall, hit me up if you know. Later.

BadMan

10-26-08, 22:53

I went here the other night.

Entrance fee is now $ 80 pesos (used to be $ 70)

Chica drink is $ 140 (used to be $ 120)

Took out a girl. Price was not discussed. She spent 3 hours at my place. She did bbbj, cim, a2m, a2p, cola and many other things I won't discuss here. She basically did EVERYTHING I wanted and she was insatiably horny and only stopped fucking when my cock tapped out after 2 and a half hours of boning.

When I dropped her off, I asked how much, she said $ 600 pesos, I told her I never pay more than $ 400, but I offered up $ 500, she accepted it with a smile and a kiss and we agreed to meet some other time.

I had an amazing time with an amazingly beautiful slutty girl (she was 22 y/o) I got what I wanted out of the date as did she.

But take note, entrance fee and chica drink fee went up, and they are trying to make $ 500 the new standard chica take out fee (it used to be $ 400)

I would definitely recommend this one for you TM, gorgeous, tall, beautiful face, big lips, amazing ass and tits. But alas, she's a blonde, sucks for you.

J / k.

Regards,

BM.

Member #3320

10-26-08, 22:57

I went here the other night.

Entrance fee is now $ 80 pesos (used to be $ 70)

Chica drink is $ 140 (used to be $ 120)

Took out a girl. Price was not discussed. She spent 3 hours at my place. She did bbbj, cim, a2m, a2p, cola and many other things I won't discuss here. She basically did EVERYTHING I wanted and she was insatiably horny and only stopped fucking when my cock tapped out after 2 and a half hours of boning.

When I dropped her off, I asked how much, she said $ 600 pesos, I told her I never pay more than $ 400, but I offered up $ 500, she accepted it with a smile and a kiss and we agreed to meet some other time.

I had an amazing time with an amazingly beautiful slutty girl (she was 22 why / o) I got what I wanted out of the date as did she.

But take note, entrance fee and chica drink fee went up, and they are trying to make $ 500 the new standard chica take out fee (it used to be $ 400)

I would definitely recommend this one for you TM, gorgeous, tall, beautiful face, big lips, amazing ass and tits. But alas, she's a blonde, sucks for you.

J / k.

Regards,

BM.Badman,

Lucky you! She sounds incredible. Please save her phone number and details for my next visit.

Thanks

Toymann

10-26-08, 23:57

In the spirit of polical correctness and tolerance I will accept your offer of this NON-MOROCHA blonde goddess. Don't ever say us republicans aren"t tolerant. See ya in a week and I accept your kind offer. Happy Mongering BAD.

Toymann

Short Rib

11-10-08, 01:22

I spoke with one of the owners of Madahos on Friday. He confirmed they went up 20 pesos on copas and 10 pesos on national drinks. This makes it a 80 peso beer and 140 peso copa and a 280 double copa. I told him these were ludicrious prices. We are in global financial crisis and the owners want to go up in prices. Business is down and they want to go up on prices. Typical Argentine thinking.

Anyway. Business will be down for the next 1.5 years. He laughed. Well, we will see who will be laughing soon.

Stormy

11-10-08, 10:20

Don't worry. If fewer people come to Madahos, they will just raise the prices again.

Wiild

11-11-08, 17:42

Spent 45 mins at Madahos on a weekday the other week. And no doubt about it: Madahos have the best looking girls I have seen in a long time, comparable to the high class Panama City clubs hosting the hottest Colombians.

At 11.00 the place was empty but I retured at 1.30 and the club had more action: maybe 40 girls and 25 guys.

As reported previously the prices for EVERYTHING is expensive, AR80 for entrance including one drink, 140 for a chica drink, 80 for the second dudes drink. Pricing makes it too expensive to stay a long time.

Quality: 7-9, possibly some 10s. High concentration of blonde girls, big slilicone tits. Best quality of outfits I have seen in any clubs.

Only negative is pricing / Value for money and that Is a BIG negative: 80 for a second beer and 140 for a chica drink that probably doesn't even give you a kiss or chance to make out / grope = it seemed that the chica drink only gave you a chance to talk to her / negotiate. I left even though I loved the looks of many of the girls in the club.

I recommend that you visit this club once, go around 1-3AM, get yourself a fancy drink and drink it slowly, check out the best looking talent in south america. Then go to a cheaper club or leave with the picture of the hot girls in your mind!:-)

Exon123

11-11-08, 19:16

---------------You will be very surprised to discover that without the very dark room, very high heels, massive make-up, nice clothes, that many are very ordinary looking chicas. Use your money more wisely!Tambien.

Exon

James Bond 007

11-12-08, 00:04

I went to Madahos twice. First time, I went with a senior AP member, although he hooked up with a girl as soon as we entered and left me to scope out the scene by myself.

This place certainly has some hot looking girls. They come in all sizes and shapes so you certainly have a lot of options depending on your preference.

As with any other setting, you need to find a girl that peaks your interest and chat her up a bit to see if you have some chemistry / compatibility. This may be difficult with the language barrier. It is my belief that if the girl likes you, she will be more willing to lower her fees. You can often tell from her body language if she is interested in you or your wallet, although some may just put on a good show. Either way, as long as you have a good time, does it really matter if she is really into you or pretends that she is and you have a good time with her?

You should try to negotiate the types of services you want from the girl. I have only talked to a few girls, but I would imagine before you start negotiating fees and services, they'll ask you to buy them a drink which is $140. The chicas basically get a small cut of $20 per chica drink. It's not much and basically pays for their taxi home.

I took out only one girl during my visits there. You can also negotiate TLN if it is getting late and she doesn't have to return to the club.

What I like about Madahos - it is a good place to check out some hot looking chicas and dancers. If you want, you can even just hang out with a drink and watch the strip shows that the dancers perform every once in a while. There is not a lot of pressure from the girls.

I agree with a lot of other comments here that the cover charge and chica drinks prices are high. If you meet a girl you like and she is willing, you can negotiate a lower rate outside her regular work hours for a meeting at your place.

El Greco

11-12-08, 00:27

I recommend that you visit this club once, go around 1-3AM, get yourself a fancy drink and drink it slowly, check out the best looking talent in south america. Then go to a cheaper club or leave with the picture of the hot girls in your mind!:-)There is an alternative route.

Go to Maipu 359 at about 18:00 and get your self a vacuum for 90p with colita CIM etc. Then go to the corner of Corrientes and Pelegrini for a coffee and relax watcing Obelisco and the crowds.

When you feel loaded again walk to Uruguay 343 at about 21:00 and get another vacuum with colita and CIM again for 100p.

At about 22:00 walk to Montevideo and Corrientes and buy yourself a nice dinner at one of the many restaurants there.

Afterwards walk next door to the patio for a drink and some music.

At around midnight go home and enjoy a good night's sleep having your bed for your own.

Thus you had two guaranteed nice encounters without ending at four in the morning, you saved yourself about 500p for the next day but most importand you did avoid a bad experience with one of Madahos or Black expensive divas.

I never had a good experience with any such diva nowhere in this world.

Thanks

Member #3320

11-12-08, 16:36

You will be very surprised to discover that without the very dark room, very high heels, massive make-up, nice clothes, that many are very ordinary looking chicas. Use your money more wisely!I agree 100% with Sidney on this one.

Wiild

11-12-08, 19:55

I think we all agree on this, but I don't think Madahos is a place to totally avoid as a tourist.

If you, like me, enjoy watching high class porn type girls with lotsa silicone, makeup, high heels in a luxurious environment then this is a place to not miss.

Sure: if you remove the dresses, shoes, makeup, implants, not much is left but the bad attitude, so make the best out of it and just go there to look and try to get a kiss or squeeze for free!:-)

I agree 100% with Sidney on this one.

Member #3320

11-13-08, 04:42

Stan Da Man

11-13-08, 21:28

If you are not price conscious.

I went Monday and Tuesday. On Monday, I had just arrived. I was feeling a bit sick and didn't have the intention of taking anything out. I went to catch up with some old friends who work there. I arrived around 2:30 a. M.

The place was rocking, as usual. After about an hour and a half, I started to feel better. I still didn't intend to go out with anything -- I was quite tired at that point after a long flight. But, this blonde seductress started to dance in front of me and, after a while, I just couldn't resist.

Her name is Jennifer Sol. She is in this month's Maxim -- the one they sell on the newsstands down here. I couldn't find her picture online. Maxim apparently doesn't post pictures. She is quite hot. $300 for the rest of the night. (I generally name a price which I know to be higher than what I could get if I negotiated hard. I'm not interested in saving an extra hundred. I know that's anathema to some here, but such is life.

She is a bubble-headed bleached blonde with an awesome store-bought rack and a tremendous cola. She stands about 5' 5" tall. She wears tight white shorts at Madaho's (the uniforms don't change much from night to night) That won't narrow it down tremendously as there are 5-6 girls a night that dress the same. But, she's got a red Playboy bunny tattoo on her abdomen, and she wears Playboy bunny earrings and has a Playboy bunny piercing in her belly. She claimed she was in Playboy Argentina in August in a topless picture (not the centerfold) but I can't confirm the truth of that. She did have a thing for Playboy, as one might already surmise.

In terms of sex, she was above average in terms of performance. She came back to my house. BBBJ and all positions were offered and sampled. I don't know if cola was on the menu. I didn't ask and she didn't offer. I doubt it, but anything's possible if the price is right. She wasn't a clock-watcher, but she wasn't exactly GFE, either. Sessions lasted about 1 hour 45 minutes. It was my first encounter with her, so I don't expect GFE until a few sessions. Total cost was $300 but, again, I named the price and she just agreed. Could a monger negotiate lower? Probably, but I didn't try. Would I repeat? Possibly, but not this trip. Variety is the spice of life.

I agree that Madaho's is not the place for the value monger. If you want to marshall your resources or ensure that you get the best bang out of your buck, then you should go elsewhere. However, if you want the hottest girls, this is the place.

In terms of attitude, I've never had any problems with chicas at Madaho's. Perhaps I should knock on wood, but I do think the girls there know that they need to be a bit more friendly if you're paying more. I can't say the same about a number of other boliches -- Newport, Black, Shampoo (in its day)

Having been to Madaho's many times, and having taken a few dancers out of there, I would also agree with many others who have cautioned that the dancers are definitely not the best value. There are some true stunners at Madaho's, but their primary line of work is dancing, not hooking. That definitely shows when you get them home. I can honestly say that there is not a single dancer there with whom I would repeat, and I've been with half a dozen or more. It has never been worth the effort, regardless of price. Every one has been a clock watcher. Nice girls, but they're definitely in it for a quick payday.

At any rate, please take the above as an alternative perspective. I know that there are many who will say that the Madaho's experience is not worth it. I've been to many of the places listed on this board, and I think that's probably correct if price is your primary (or even secondary) consideration. But, if you want some 8s and 9s (in terms of looks) and a great atmosphere, and price is not your principal concern, then your place is Madaho's. Mario runs a great business if you're looking for top quality chicas. Just one monger's opinion.

TejanoLibre

11-13-08, 22:21

So what was it? Pesos or dollars?

If it was dollars you absolutely paid too much!

And yes, you end up fucking a lot of the boys on the board when you overpay to that extent.

The whores in Madaho's are not worth $300.00 U. S wheather you have it to spare or not.

It's not a matter of dollars and cents. It's a matter of pure principle dude.

Especially a fucking short, bleached blonde, tatoo victim with tits that are faker than her orgasms!

Plus, all pussy and no cola makes Tejano Libre a very bored boy!

Also, since when does 1.75 hours constitute all night long?

Take Care,

TL

Daddy Rulz

11-13-08, 22:51

I understand that for a person of means time is more important than money. I appreciate you keeping the "I don't mind paying extra" attitude in La Recoletta and leaving the downtown clubs there for us value guys.

Enjoy the trip

Miami Bob

11-14-08, 04:01

But that is your choice. I have been hoping that Madaho's would back on my list. I'll skip it on my next trip. US$400 inclusive for less than 2 hours of mediocre sex. I can get 2 hours of great sex in miami for that price.

BadMan

11-14-08, 10:06

I think I know the girl you speak of.

If she is the same one, she tried charging me $ 500 ARS a few months back. She has an amazing body, though the hair is a little short for my taste.

She has been in some Argie films recently. I wouldn't personally pay more than $ 200 USD for TLN, but your wallet must be bigger than mine. Thanks for the report. I might have to give her a spin sometime.

Regards,

BM

Stan Da Man

11-14-08, 17:14

Tejano:

Sorry to mess up the tide in the fish bowl by overpaying. The way I look at it, my lack of financial constraint (and that by others like me) just might be enough to convince some other hot young things to give the profession a try. For every new one that starts out at Madaho's with dollar signs in her eyes because of stupid Americans like me, there is another that gets let out of the Madaho's stable and ends up in some other club where prices are more reasonable.

If the laws of supply and demand have any currency down here, the fact that I (and many others) are paying too much by your standards must have some effect on the supply side. If chicas are lured to the profession by the prospect of extra dollars, then you need suckers like me.

At any rate, I've enjoyed your posts and those of many others here, and I especially enjoyed your restaurant when it was open. I believe we met several times about 6 and 9 months ago on previous trips. I always made it a point to stop by for the best steak in town. I left generous tips -- probably too much, but such is life.

So what was it? Pesos or dollars?

If it was dollars you absolutely paid too much!

And yes, you end up fucking a lot of the boys on the board when you overpay to that extent.

The whores in Madaho's are not worth $300.00 U. S wheather you have it to spare or not.

It's not a matter of dollars and cents. It's a matter of pure principle dude.

Especially a fucking short, bleached blonde, tatoo victim with tits that are faker than her orgasms!

Plus, all pussy and no cola makes Tejano Libre a very bored boy!

Also, since when does 1.75 hours constitute all night long?

Take Care,

TL

TejanoLibre

11-14-08, 19:20

I do understand how things happen and at times I KNOW that I have eagerly overpayed.

Whether due to the amount of alcohol consumed or the time of day or whatever. Sometimes you find the perfect girl!

I just hate to read about it more than anything. Or witness it!

My thoughts are that now this girl will always assume that she is worth X amount of dollars.

The worst part is that she will tell ALL of her girlfriends that she was paid X and that they are worthless human beings if they accept anything less than that!

I did'nt mean to over-react but it gives them THE GOLDEN PUSSY SYNDROME!

They begin to believe that it's made of gold but we all know that it's made of brass and brass tarnishes very quickly!

Got any Brasso?

Take Care Stan and Thanks for the business and opinions / sound advice!

Ramiro

Wild Walleye

11-16-08, 02:35

Golden or otherwise, if it doesn't come with a brain that knows how to turn tinder into an inferno, I'm not buying (at least, starting tomorrow, that will be my policy. Or at least I will try to use a little more discipline and think with the big head. Which is tough after tying a good one on and looking at lots of GP prancing around)

The other night, I ended up at Madahos around 1:00am after dinner and lots of drinks. I wound up buying a few drinks for my coworkers and a couple of chicas. The first girl I encountered was Brazilian and I am certain would have curled my toes. However, she asked for US$300 (if in the States, I would have said yes immediately) I told her that I would like to spend time with her but that I had left that place with equally attractive women for AR$400. Unfortunately, she saw my willingness to buy drinks (including her's without her asking) and incorrectly interpreted that as me being willing to over pay for GP. She didn't seem to be willing to negotiate so I set her free.

Saw another girl I knew. She gave me the hard sell and I was in no condition to resist. I should have. I knew what I was going to get, uninspiring sex, up-selling and drama from a gorgeous blond. I only have myself to blame.

Little warm up, straight to the main event. After a little bit I knew I was not going to be able to bust a nut with this girl. I pounded for almost 90 mins. To the point that I think she was about to offer me money if I would just give up. Walked her back to Madahos and went to 1631 Junin, both rooms were busy, hung with madam for a while had a Fanta and asked her to send one to my hotel. Girl never showed and I eventually nodded off. Straight 1707 Ste. Fe as soon as I woke up.

GP lesson learned again (lost count, not sure how many times) should have gone straight to 1707 or better yet, had a little less to drink and set up a date with Luciana Love.

El Perro

11-23-08, 13:22

Made my way here last night for maybe the first time in close to two years. Yes my friends, it can be an expensive experience factoring in all the incidentals, plus cost of the chica, but what a lineup. A horde of very attractive, big titted dewdrops. One chick from Missiones might have the best ass I have ever seen-must be that proximity to Brazil. Nearly every chick I questioned started off with the company "minimo" of 500p. This allows them to invoke the "it's not my fault" line. Clearly there is much room for negoitiation however as my very experienced, spanish speaking mongering buddy, quickly had a very nice chica down to 300p. So it can be done.

The upshot, while I have agreed in the past with many mongers that you can find similar hot chicas at less pricey boliches and at privados, that was definitely not the case last night at Madahos. So, not a cheap experience with drinks and chica cost, even if you can bust them down to 300p. But, and a big but, the quality I saw last night was very impressive, and for mongers with a fat wallet, or interested in splurging, this is an enticing joint.

Thomaso276

11-23-08, 17:39

Dog: I thought you were prohibited from crossing into Recoleta!

El Perro

11-23-08, 18:30

Dog: I thought you were prohibited from crossing into Recoleta!LOL. I got my hair cut, shaved and splashed on the High Karate.

Gauntlet77

11-24-08, 22:21

LOL. I got my hair cut, shaved and splashed on the High Karate.Good thing I didn't I meet up with you on Saturday night. I probably wouldn't have recognized you!

Check your PM for a hot Madaho's number. Expensive but we don't want that haircut and shave to be in vain.

El Perro

11-24-08, 22:35

Expensive but we don't want that haircut and shave to be in vain.Hey man, thanks. I'll just sell my Citi, GM and Ford stock and have enough left for half a blowjob and some stinky dedo.;)

Jackson-can I change my name to Stinky Dedo ?

Gauntlet77

11-24-08, 22:44

Hey man, thanks. I'll just sell my Citi, GM and Ford stock and have enough left for half a blowjob and some stinky dedo.;)Well Citi went up today so you should have enough for 3/4 of a blowjob.

As for some "stinky dedo", this sensitive soul is just too shy to ask the details.

El Perro

11-24-08, 22:48

Well Citi went up today so you should have enough for 3/4 of a blowjob.

As for some "stinky dedo", this sensitive soul is just too shy to ask the details.You know, smell my new girlfriend, and all like that.

Esten

12-06-08, 03:45

Design Pro

12-09-08, 00:55

Man am I looking forward to visiting this club again, finding a seat somewhere to sit back and sip my drink while I watch the scene. Hoping to spot my blond Natacha Peyre look-alike, or the next best thing.

A question to recent visitors - is the minimum now really 500 pesos? Not the local porteno price, but the best price a gringo with basic spanish is likely to be able to negotiate. At least a silver lining is the peso is now near 3.50.

Also, if anyone has any recommendations on who to see or who to avoid, please let me know. Feel free to send a pm if you want the info kept private and I will respect the request.Greetings all,

I am a long time lurker and must first express my thanks and appreciation for all of the information shared here. I just flew into BA and was eagerly looking forward to experiencing some of the local scene. First try, by luck of the draw, Madahos. Now don't get me wrong here, there were a couple of very attractive women here and it was fun to sit back and enjoy the show. It was also fun to sit there and watch the bar manager / head chica throw girl after girl at me for an hour and then follow-up every one with a semi-hard sell for a house drink. The first girl drink was quoted at AR$120 and I literally laughed out loud. I stopped laughing when that was the price thru the next four girls. Finally the head girl came over and, very nicely, explained that "this is Recoletta" and this was "normal for all of the places". I respectfully disagreed and this led to the arrival of The List. Apparently, all of my information was wrong and I should have immediately changed my mind based on seeing the 11"x8.5" sheet of paper printed off a desktop with a list of prices. (I tried to get her to give me the sheet but no go) Needless to say, I gave the head girl a nice kiss on the cheek and wished her a good night.

I must immediately point out here that her persistence and absolute conviction might have convinced me if it were not for this board. Since I know that there are much better deals and situations available in BA, it had little trouble thinking with the big head rather than jr. Keep up the good work and we'll see what happens tomorrow night.

DP

Thomaso276

12-09-08, 09:31

Good game plan DP, Recoleta is expensive, try the Triangle, especially this week with xmas coming up the girls need to get some $. House drinks around 50 pesos.

Esten

12-09-08, 16:26

DP Are you sure about the chica drink price.

I (and others) have been quoted 140 pesos not 120.

Design Pro

12-09-08, 22:08

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DP Are you sure about the chica drink price.

I (and others) have been quoted 140 pesos not 120.Esten,

Yes, unless I misunderstood her english, the head chica said 120 pesos and she also showed me her price list which said ". $120,00" for the girls drink. I do not remember the Spanish terms but it was the first option, in the last section at the bottom of the page. She also kept pointing to it for emphasis.

DP

Esten

12-09-08, 22:23

Thanks - I'll have to test out the 120 peso drink on my next visit to Madahos.

I stopped in Madahos recently. Not packed - about 30 girls and 15 guys. I recognized a few of them from past visits. There were a few I was interested in. This did not include a petite Uruguaya who said it was her second day and chatted my ear off on how good a decision it would be for me to choose her. Said she would do everything. But she kept talking fast and seemed a little desperate. She was willing to go for 500 pesos. I said I'd think about it.

In the end I went with a chica I've seen there twice before. I knew I could count on a fantastic time with her and it was fantastic. 500 peso offer readily accepted. Her drink was 140 pesos.

So I got the answer to my earlier question. The floor on negotiable prices is definately 500 pesos or lower. Another monger told me he had taken several from Madahos recently for 450 pesos.

Design Pro

12-10-08, 01:17

Based on what I've heard, Madahos seems to be very adept at adjusting to local market conditions. Ie. The price I was quoted to take a girl out was AR$300 and this was straight from the head chica. The only thing I can think of here is that I went on Monday which was the last day of the Immaculate Conception holiday. There were only 6 girls there and I was the only guy. Low demand equaled lower prices.

I went to Players and New Port tonight but I'll post something in the appropriate sections.

DP

Esten

12-24-08, 02:17

Based on my conversation with another customer on my last visit, I decided to go back to Madahos and test the 450 peso floor. The test failed.

There were about 25 chicas when I stopped in past 1am. Only a few I was interested in. I eventually chatted up an attractive blond who had been on her own (not with amigas) for the 45 minutes or so I had been in the club. Her name was Ambar. Slim, medium-tall blond from Cordoba, attractive face, nice body, natural C cup. She seemed to light up when I showed interest in her, a good sign I thought. I enjoyed chatting with her and decided to buy her a drink. 140 pesos. Eventually I tell Ambar I would like to take her out, but don't want to pay more than 450 pesos. She gets a sour look and says 400 pesos is not much. I clarify I said 450 pesos but her response is, oh same thing, not much. She wants 600 pesos. There is almost a minute of silence (I'm not prepared to budge) and then she says she'll do 500 pesos but only at the nearby hotel. I say I usually prefer going to my place. Well soon after we part ways and she wishes me good luck. Ha! I stayed awhile longer and left, but noticed she had spent the remaining time on her own. She could have made 450 pesos but all she got was the 20 peso cut from her drink.

Bartonsky

12-24-08, 03:24

Interesting, thanks for the intel. Really hard to understand these chicas logic here except based purely on pride. One could argue that they are trying to hold the line on pricing. However, this would seem difficult since there are a 100 different independent contractors each negotiating their own deal every night. For her to have so much pride that she turned down the deal for a 150 difference is dumb in my opinion. I wonder though if this is how they feel like they can assume control over the situation, by not yielding on some part of the transaction.

Joe Vato

12-24-08, 03:30

Dancesw/Chicas

12-24-08, 05:17

Esten,

Is this the Ambar you are talking about?

DWC

Master J

12-24-08, 11:49

I am not surprised that she turned her nose at 450 pesos. Amazing. I think it comes down to the fact that these girls lack a proper education. So they cannot see that if you make 450 pesos a night and work five nights you have a nice pocket of change in your pocket. Go ahead and have an intelligent conversation with any of these Madahos women. It is not possible because it does not exist. To turn down the money because you want to hold out for 600 pesos is just plain stupid. Good for you for not giving in to her.If this is Ambar, I am not surprised some men will travel 7,000 miles and turn their nose at a chance to ride a beautiful mare for 150 pesos xtra. I think it comes down to some of them lacking a proper logic board. If you get a chance to tap a real beauty like this one over the course of a week when all is said and done you have done extremely well if you are at this level. When you are back in sex prison and looking out the window at snow, I would rather have the memories of a delicious honey over having the money in my bank and I showed them! To pass on a real good stable over 450 / 600 is senseless to me! Sometimes you got to pay to play! If this is Ambar I would in a heasrtbeat. Send her this way!

Meforu 2000

12-24-08, 13:02

Hey guys.

I don't like to start something but I saw the pic and I would only give her 100p max and thats on a day I couldnt find something, she is skinny flat it's just not my type, but to each it's own. Give me some meat and nice rack and I would not spend 600 ps. For any well si shouldnt say that if the right came along I would. I'm bad.

Esten

12-24-08, 13:24

Is this the Ambar you are talking about?Her hair was a bit different and she had a classier look in the club when I saw her. But yes, it is possible it could be her. If you took her out of Madahos I'm interested to hear about it (and how much you paid... lol).

Geo Eye

12-25-08, 13:00

Exon123

12-25-08, 13:31

Yes she's a beautiful girl, But can she Fuck, thats the real question, not price.

Exon

Carpediem

01-05-09, 03:07

Frankly, I don' see much difference in Madahos prices etc compared to 6 months ago (when adjusted for exchange rate) At least on a slow Sunday night, my impression is that any girl would accept 450$ (pesos) I picked up one of those bleached blonds which are usually the most difficult to deal with and it turned out to be quite a good experience - she actually stayed for 2.5 hours even though I didn't negotiate that in advance.

This is not to say that $450 is a good price - we all know that it's not, but oh well. Madajos is definitely fun from time to time.

Copia78

01-16-09, 14:54

Hey guys,

Just a note, if you want to fuck a blond that is almost an exact body type and face as this chick, she works at Brut which is just around the corner from Madahos. He name is Diana, and it may very well be the same girl.

Body: 9/10 firm and young, simply amazing, almost no fat and no kids, she said she was 23, small be cup tits.

Face: 7 cute but not amazing, and she smokes, so the teeth are not exactly white, haha.

Attitude: 8 solid fun girl, not stuck up in my experience. No DFK, but BBBJ and great sex. She was amazingly tight and her body is firm like a college chick!

BRUT: small spot but I like it. $50 peso entrance with drink and only had to buy 1 girl drink of $100 peso to take her out. And the door guy was genuinely nice and not an asshole.

Fun times guys.

-Copia.

Esten,

Is this the Ambar you are talking about?

DWC

Esten

01-17-09, 00:39

Is this the Club Brut on Las Heras where you walk down the stairs to a lower level? I pulled a beautiful chica out of there once (and had a great time with her). But that was 5 years ago.

Could you let us know what $ the chicas there are asking these days.

Greenhunt

01-19-09, 19:56

Why is Madahos so expensive? It looks like you have have sex with a girl for $150 at massage places or apartments. Why pay $450? Are all so good looking there?

Thomaso276

01-20-09, 09:36

For the same reason some people shop at Walmart and others at trendy upscale stores for a pair of socks. A matter of personal taste.

El Perro

01-20-09, 11:06

You will discover that most of them are not good looking! It's mostly the dark lights, mucho cosmetics, and nice, suggestive clothes. AVOID!I saw a very dark skinned chica from Uruguay in Madahos last week that El Sid would lick up one side and down the other. Sid- you may want to investigate.

Stan Da Man

01-21-09, 19:44

I saw a very dark skinned chica from Uruguay in Madahos last week that El Sid would lick up one side and down the other. Sid- you may want to investigate.There also was a dark skinned Dominicana there last week. Can't remember her name. Very friendly and quite cute. She also spoke a fair bit of English.

This place is a matter of personal taste. I wouldn't be so hasty with the "avoid" comments. But, for the budget monger, I agree that it's definitely not going to top the list.

If you're not a value monger, then it's still the place with the most and prettiest girls in BA. If anyone can direct me to a place with more girls at consistently high quality, I'm happy to try it. I was in Black twice last week and it doesn't hold a candle to Madaho's. The girls dress better but are not as pretty. Again, though, I would concede that this is just personal taste.

Finally, based on multiple nights in this place last week, I can definitively say that it, too, is feeling the effects of the economy. The girls and employees there echoed that sentiment. So, the budget monger may get his revenge yet.

Kolos

01-22-09, 02:02

I was in Black twice last week and it doesn't hold a candle to Madaho's. The girls dress better but are not as pretty. Again, though, I would concede that this is just personal taste.After multiple problems in this club around 25 girls from Black moved to Hipopotamus.

Esten

01-22-09, 02:41

Stan Da Man

01-22-09, 17:51

Stan - the real test will be if the club and the chicas lower their prices in this economy. Given the many descriptions written on this board of the Argentine mentality, I'm inclined to think they will not, though I hope I'm wrong.Well, I doubt Madaho's (the club) will need to lower it's prices just yet. It's nowhere near as crowded as before, but it still has a lot of traffic EVERY night. It's easily the most crowded Recoleta boliche. It gets crowded earlier, stays crowded later, and has more gente than Black. Not as much traffic as before, so they're not making as much money, but they're still doing okay.

The girls at Madaho's, however, already are adjusting their prices. I personally doubt you'll find much downward adjustment at the lower threshold. From my experience, the adjustments were at the mid- and higher-ends. Those unwilling to go for less than US$300 have now adjusted their prices downward, and the starting quote (if that's the way you negotiate) is now less than it was. That's definitely what my experience was last week. And, again, I don't negotiate hard, but there was a tangible difference even from last November to now. Some of it may be that the peso is 10% less over the past two months, but I also think the slower traffic is taking it's toll.

The place you could really see this is La Lopez. That place is in its death throes. Part of it likely is the economy, but the other part is probably the fact that Bobby's no longer there. I only went in once this trip, but the place had a grand total of three dudes by 1 am on a Thursday night. It's grim. I'm told the owners are trying hard to sell.

El Alamo

01-22-09, 18:19

You will discover that most of them are not good looking! It's mostly the dark lights, mucho cosmetics, and nice, suggestive clothes. AVOID!It is a trade off. You can go to Black, Madaho etc and pay a grand total of over 500 pesos. But you have spent an evening and it is entertaining.

On the other hand you can go to apartments and spend $200 pesos for the exact same experience. But it is only one hour. What do you do with the other 23 hours of the day.

Anyone who says that the girls at Black or Madaho are head and shoulders above apartment girls are out of their fuckin mind.

The cutest girls do not work at night. They have families who might wonder where they are when the sun goes down.

A more important consideration is safety. What girl in her right mind will go to an apartment or love hotel with a complete stranger. It is dangerous. Apartments are less dangerous.

I will reiterate what Sidney has been trying to say since time began. If you think the girls at Black or Madaho are something special you are only talking about several girls out of dozens of girls who are at Black or Madahos. The rest are nothing to write home about.

Furthermore, if you think apartment girls don't compare to the girls at Black or Madaho, it is only because you don't know what apartments to go to.

But, at the end of the day, the cutest girls are by referral only.

They don't work in apartments and they don't have to endue the indignities of working at a Black or Madaho. They are in a class by themselves.

However, it is only human nature to claim you were with a world class beauty after you were spent $500 to $1000 pesos for an encounter with a girl at Black or Madaho.

But the $500 to $1000 pesos represents an entire evening of entertainment, although rarely ending with a true beauty - and, all in all, is money well spent.

Esten

01-23-09, 02:16

El Alamo covers exactly the points why I spend most evenings in BA at the clubs. What else am I going to do from 10-2. A late dinner, then a drink maybe someplace else, then go to a privado and do my thing and head home?

Or hang out in a nice club, drink, check out the chicas, socialize, flirt, practice my spanish, and maybe get close and intimate with a beautiful woman. And take her back to my place, or move on to the next chica or club. And there is the adventure of finding that special one for the night. I find this highly enjoyable. Although of course the enjoyment is directly proportional to various factors (chica quality and selection, attitudes, prices, ambiance, etc) and some nights are much better or worse than others.

I have thought of tweaking this format by finishing a night at the clubs by going to a privado with high quality chicas, and picking one and taking her home. It would be a less expensive format overall. But I need a reliable privado with high caliber chicas you can take out around 1-3am, and I haven't done enough research in this area to find one.

Stan Da Man

01-23-09, 18:35

Perhaps the true beauties are found in the privados, but that definitely has not been my experience. I would welcome a Top 5 privado list, though, since I've an open mind, and would love to be proved wrong on this point. Again, it's really a matter of personal preference, and I completely respect your point of view. If I haven't done enough research in this area, then shame on me. If you can point a fellow monger in the right direction, please do so.

I've been to a number of privados. I can't say I've been to all of the "best" ones because I don't know what that list includes, but I've spent a fair amount of time reading the board and have been to most of the better reviewed privados, and I've visited some of the better reviewed chicas.

Now, don't get me wrong: There are good looking girls at some privados. But, that has been the exception to the rule, at least in my experience, and I do believe the gals at Madaho's are head and shoulders above the privado girls.

Part of the issue for me is that I'm not a big fan of the privado experience. Jackson wrote a post on this subject long ago about Santa Fe 1707 that summarizes my thoughts better than I could. It's worth a re-print just because it's rather funny:

I don't generally care for the private apartment scene for a number of reasons, but after hearing and reading the experiences of so many Forum Members visits to the various apartments, I decided, in the name of research, that I should at least see for myself what all the interest was.

I selected what was reputed to be one of the best private apartments in the city: 1707 Santa Fe. It had received endorsements from several qualified mongers, including Andres, Capt Dave, and lately from Speculator, who seemed to have visited there every day for two weeks. Besides, the place was only six blocks from my apartment. If I was going to develop an apartment as an afternoon get-away, it seemed to meet all the requirements.

I made my first visit on a Monday afternoon in the company of Capt Dave. We arrived at the rather non-descript building on the corner on Sante Fa and Rodriguez Pena at 5pm. From all the glorifications in the write-ups, I had expected some sort of elegant Victorian townhouse, but I was instead confronted with a unimpressive concrete building with a drably painted foyer leading to a cramped 1950's style elevator. We exited the elevator into a small hallway with a single door and an adjacent intercom. As Capt Dave rang the buzzer, I observed the security camera peering down at us from the ceiling.

We were greeted by a middle aged woman who invited us into the foyer. Again, I was unimpressed with the decor, which consisted of dusty, thread-bare carpeting, dusty, thread-bare furniture, and windows covered by dusty, faded curtains. We were quickly escorted into the "Viewing Room" decorated in the same worn motif, where we had a seat and awaited our opportunity to select our chica de jour. Even the doors in this place had a worn-out look consisting of old wood that was greyed, cracked and bare from years of use, without the benefit of having received even a single new coat of varnish in years.

One by one, in quick succession, the four available chicas entered wearing bra and panties, introduced themselves with the obligatory peck on the cheek, and quickly departed, the entire sequence being completed within a minute. I selected "Barbara", a slim, medium height chica with light brown hair. After advising the "Madam" of my choice, "Barbara" returned and led me across the hallway into a small bedroom where I was invited to wait.

As I waited, I took note of my surroundings. One reason I don't like the apartments, or in fact any "on premise" venue, is that I always imagine the stereotypical small room furnished with a single bed, with stained sheets on a mattress that it was bent in the middle from overuse, illuminated by a single bare bulb dangling from the ceiling. Thus I was pleased to note that instead I was comfortably ensconced in a small room furnished with a single bed, with stained sheets on a mattress that it was bent in the middle from overuse, illuminated by a single bare bulb on a lamp next to the bed. Whew! That was close.

Barbara returned a minute later to advise me of the pricing structure: $60 pesos for 30 minutes, $80 pesos for 45 minutes, plus an additional $20 pesos for a BBBJ, which I had expected to pay directly to the chica as an extra inducement, but which had now been apparently incorporated into the official pricing structure. I opted for the 45 minutes with the BBBJ, and handed her a $100 peso note. She asked me if I wanted anything to drink, and I asked for a coke with ice.

She returned in 5 minutes with a dirty glass filled with a warm, flat, dark liquid that she insisted was coke. Miraculously, just one sip was sufficient to satisfy my thirst. She closed the door as I sat on the bed and noted the time on my watch, which I had placed on the table for the specific purpose of determining if 45 minutes actually meant 45 minutes.

Barbara next offered me a stained white towel the size of a postage stamp, and asked if I wanted to take a shower, which I declined having just showered a couple of hours ago. Besides, I could just imagine the condition of the bathroom. She then produced a condom, whereupon I advised her that we would be using mine as I pulled one of my own brand out of my pocket.

Exon123

01-23-09, 18:46

Deebeeay

01-23-09, 20:48

The "looks" quality of the girls has improved remarkably in both the privados and Madahos. On Madahos, and high end clubs in BA in general, a lot of the fun has gone out of it due to the almost military style clock watching and depersonalised approach by the girls (admittedly, much of this has been enforced by the "friendly / hello my frend management") Even with plenty of cash in the wallet, Madahos is just not as alluring as it used to be. No matter how much money you have - a bad deal is a bad deal. In that regard, the margin of error is far smaller in the privados. That is, I am willing to risk 150 pesos far quicker than 600 plus pesos.

Related - the privados are run by Madams (I am sure some foristas will argue that they are ultimately owned by men, but their management and day to day running is in the hands of Madams) and Madahos etc. Are run by pimps (call them what they are) Back in the day, Playboy, Black, etc. Were all once run by Madams. They were far better for it.

For me, Madahos has become far to risky. And by risk I do not mean security or safety, I mean throwing a big wad of cash down the drain. The risk / reward ratio is way out of tilt. I still go to Madahos but only leave with girls I have known for a few years. Even though I have been doing this for years, I wouldn't dream of leaving with any of the sharks in Madahos, no matter how attractive their fins may be.

A good comparison is Help in Rio. Now Help is far more criticised than Madahos, but it is a much better deal. A turno is all night. There is none of the gone in 60 minutes crap. The garotas stay all night.

Stan Da Man

01-24-09, 00:34

A good comparison is Help in Rio. Now Help is far more criticised than Madahos, but it is a much better deal. A turno is all night. There is none of the gone in 60 minutes crap. The garotas stay all night.I agree with that. And, with the dollar / Real exchange rate having improved dramatically in the past year, it may be time for a refresher course on the differences between these two countries. I haven't been to Brazil in five years and have only been to Sao Paulo the few times there.

Here's a poll idea: How about listing the Top 15 or so privados (based on recent board traffic) and letting the mongers vote on their favorite in terms of quality chicas or overall experience (price, atmosphere, service, chica selection, hours, etc.

As with all my "great" ideas, this one probably was already done a few years back. Sorry if it's a re-hash.

BA Luvr

01-25-09, 02:33

Stan, you are Da Man! You have started to create another hit song for the Beach Boys (their memory is still alive, anyway):

Wish They All Could Be Privado Girls.

I invite others to contribute to the lyrics.:-)

BA Luvr

01-25-09, 15:21

OK, I'll start:

Well, porteña girls are hip.

I really dig the thongs they wear.

And the Paraguay girls with the way they walk.

They knock me out when I'm down there.

I wish they all could be privado.

I wish they all could be privado.

I wish they all could be privado girls

Whiskas

01-25-09, 16:46

Mendoza's farmer's daughter really make you feel allright,

And Ushuaia's girls keep their boyfriends warm at night.

They kiss, they suck and they do,

All the best to please us well.

Aaand when we come inside their p. Ssies.

They say baby you're so greeeeat.

I wish they all could be privados.

I wish they all could be privados.

I wish they all could be privados GIIIIRLS!

It's time to get back to Orleans back to the cuttest girls in the world.

I wish they all could be privados.

I wish they all could be privados.

I wish they all could be privados GIIIIRLS!

(Use David Lee Roth's Version instead of Beach boy's)

How about using Just a Gigolo for our next song. Lol

BA Luvr

01-25-09, 19:34

Great progress. I'd like to work in the following also:

The internet girls are sexy.

And they all get photoshopped.

I dig a cola. Need help here)

Cause they never want to stop.

I been all around this great big world.

And I seen all kinds of girls.

Yeah, but I couldn't wait to come back from the States.

Back to the hottest girls in the world

Thomaso276

01-26-09, 09:53

What is this crap a songwriting / poetry board!

Whiskas

01-27-09, 01:02

Oh come on, we're just getting creative, exploring new possibilities with old songs and our good old male needs. P. Sy takes out the best of myself!

Beezer

01-28-09, 11:22

I had heard it was a place to see but I had no idea what to expect.

Trying to size up the place without adressing the cost would be contra the spirit of this web site.

It ain't Kmart but I doubt you would ever regret walking through the front door.

I saw 10 girls there at once that I could expext to see in USA once a year.

The rest of the 80+ girls look like like Dallas Cheerleaders, and all are in the 500P plus catagory.

It is difficult to maintain any sense that we men are the stronger sex when you walk in and feel like a bleeding lamb in a tank full of sharks.

I was blown away.

Perhaps one could get used to such a sight. But I hope not.

Bottom line if you are in Paris, do see the Eifel Tower. If you are in Recoleta, go to Madahos even if just to look.

Lucky for me I am staying a short walk from there.

Beezer

Beezer

01-28-09, 15:46

I love surprises but what do you mean?

Beezer

Lukasek

01-28-09, 19:32

Beezer,

I am arriving soon, better say to escape from Rio where I did not find real top notch girls. So the girls in Madahos are really so nice?

We can consider madahos as what? A rip off place, for the high price of 500 pesos, a place with the best girls even if the most expensive too or just a place to see to say I was there?

Lukasek

02-07-09, 18:28

FIRST PART:

A week ago, during my second day, I pick for 600 pesos overnight Barbie, fake name, Brenda I think the real one, blond thin 165cm 50kg, DFK in the club, once out she totally change:

- she wanted I bought her a rose, I deny and she said, so give the child 10 pesos, I gave 5 pesos.

- she wanted to eat hamburgher, we stop at restaurant close to new port, 48 pesos and once in flat she ate less than half hamburgher.

- in the flat, she asked which present I took for her from my country and I never met her before.

- after she ate hamburgher, she told me she was gonna to give me fast sex, cause she was tired.

- she said ok for anal in the club, once in flat, she said I understood wrong, so no anal.

- she really hurry up and then fall asleep till 11:00

- at 11:00 I tried to have second session, she told me to pay her, cause she has to go home.

So I took an overnight that only sleep till morning and with the dark light in club was a 7', once out she was a 5,5'.

Great, isn' it?

SECOND PART.

Yesterday, Madahos has imho the best girls I saw here, not so nice I thought when I decided to come here, but at least there are some good ones.

I spoke, DFK for one hour with one drink with one girl, blonde and nice, she told me she loves anal often more than vaginal sex and this is what can really spark me.

The beginning was very good and I thought I was gonna to get the best girl here, but once I asked the price, she said 600 pesos but for 2 hours. No able to get the price down, I said, you go home at morning.

She asked when? I said 9:00am, she said, Madahos do not allow to girl to stay till morning. Once I smiled, she said, ok but 1800 pesos the rate, but she said for me 1500 pesos.

I smiled so laugh that the ones that were sitting close to me smiled too. I was so horny and I liked her so much I did the mistake to say ok for 1000 pesos? Mistake cause I do not like to overpay, but luckily she said no, at least 1200 pesos, so I left and start to speak with other girls without pay drinks.

After about 30 minutes she came to me and said ok for 1000 pesos but I said, no thank you, cause I got the feeling she was so greedy I could forget with her GFE.

So horny as a dog with 3 balls I went home with a stop at Chekers, where between old women I saw a young one, a 6,5' but busy with a man, however, for my valutation and for what I saw here a 6,5' is not bad here, so tonight I go there to see if she will be there.

Lukasek

02-07-09, 19:22

And most all give little service! And you paid outrageous prices! AVOID! P. S.--the chicas at Cheker's are Exon's private stock. Be advised--get his permission before attempting to take a chica!For a gringo not living here, I do not think 600 is so outrageous at Madahos and sorry, but if somebody will take girl out for half my price, I will believe it, when I will see it with my eyes.

Do you mean that the grandmothers women at Chekers are Exon's private stock? LOL.

I wil do like this, I will ask the permittion to the girl with money, if I find one I like, if she will refuse, I will call Exon, ok?

A non outrageous price at Chekers is how much? Just to know it.

p.s. so was you the one who wrote with the dark light inside the club, hard to see them well ? I thought about you yesterday, yes you are absolutely right, I know, but should I buy at supermarket a light to see them better ? ;)

Povls

02-16-09, 05:21

Are there rooms available I Madahos or do you have to take the girl to your hotel / appartment.

Povls

Aqualung

02-16-09, 05:37

Are there rooms available I Madahos or do you have to take the girl to your hotel / appartment.

PovlsPavls, Madahos is a bar. You meet girls there and take them to wherever you want. Your hotel or a fuck hotel (motel) or apartment etc. Etc. Etc.

Of course you pay them, both the bar and the girls for the privilege!

Sky Ryder

02-16-09, 10:44

Okay I know that things have changed A LOT over the past few years, but did I read it correct that some Madahos girl asked for and got $1000 pesos!

Surely my eyes deceived me. OMG the world has gone crazy.

I haven't been there in a few months, but has it really gone from take-out @ 300 pesos to 1000 in that short time?

I know that drink prices have gone up as well, I am curious as too how crowded the club is these days at these prices.

I really miss my journeys to BsAs, but maybe not so much given what is going on now.

BadMan

02-16-09, 11:34

The current going rate is around $ 500- $ 600 Pesos, or at today's exchange rate $ 140 - $ 170 USD.

Comparing that with the previous $ 300 - $ 400 peso = $ 100 - $ 130 USD exchange rate, I would say prices have gone up in line with inflation.

The girls sometimes try to ask for $300 USD or $ 1000 AR. Some get it, but the vast majority don't and still settle for $ 500 pesos, which is still a realistic figure and at today's exchange rate, only about $ 10- $ 40 USD more than you were paying 2 years ago.

Madahos is still a fun place, though I don't frequent as much anymore. The place is still packed most of the time, but I have been there on a few occasions when the place was pretty empty and the girls were pretty desperate.

Regards,

BM

Povls

02-16-09, 12:36

Thank you for the answers. Are there any termas I Buenos Aires like I Rio - with sauna etc. Where you can rent a room on the spot?

Povls

Bartonsky

02-16-09, 14:30

I was there last night. I thought I would try Sunday since I heard you may get some value then. I went around midnight which was still probbaly too early. There were quite a few girls but no many guys. I chatted for a while with a cute one. She kinda reminded me of a friend from home so it had some intangable value there. I threw out 400 pesos and she started to laugh and said this is Madahos. She came back with 600 and I playfully laughed.

I should have tried to get her number and try to call her in her off hours. Damn!

I didnt press it much after that because I figured it was too early anyway. All in all I was not that impressed with the girls there. There were a couple above avg but there were also some that would have trouble in pravados in my opinion. Not sure how they get to work here.

There was a dancer that was out of this world. Someday that would be sweet.

BTW is there any value in getting one of those stupid card from the vultures hombres outside of these clubs. I forget do they just a kickback? Does it make the entry fee any less?

Overall if you add the entry fee, exit fee and girl fee this place seems over priced to me unless you find an absolute knockout, which I didn't see save for the dancer.

Rock Harders

02-16-09, 15:41

Mongers,

At this point, with average pricing of $600 AR, plus $140 AR exit drink and $80 AR entrance fee, coming to $820 AR or about $235 USD, Madahos is just a absurd joke in my mind, especially considering the true quality of the chicas. There is no chica working the floor at Madahos who is worth that kind of money; some of the dancers might be, but they will not go for that money. About 90% of the girls at this place should be asking for $200 AR at one of the centro clubs. As a point of reference to top mongering spots in other top latin american mongering destinations, the best girls at Fase II in Medellin can be had for $60 USD for 45 minutes, including room. The girls at Fase II are much better looking than even the dancers at Madahos; also a BOTTLE of rum at F2 is about $30 USD. The hottest girls at Help in Rio de Janeiro will go for $130 USD for ALL NIGHT and a beer cost about $1.30 USD.

Suerte,

Rock Harders

BadMan

02-16-09, 16:27

Not so fast there buddy. She's my girlfriend, hands OFF!

There was a dancer that was out of this world. Someday that would be sweet.

BadMan

02-16-09, 16:36

At this point, with average pricing of $600 AR, plus $140 AR exit drink and $80 AR entrance fee, coming to $820 AR or about $235 USD, Madahos is just a absurd joke in my mind, especially considering the true quality of the chicas.The first time I went to Madahos two years ago, the girls where $ 300 AR, the entrance was $ 50 AR and the girls drink was $ 80 AR for a total of $ 430 AR or about $ 140 USD. It was worth it.

Now, if you include all the price hikes, you are looking at about $ 240 USD. At this current price, the value for money declines and much better can be had elsewhere. Now all you have to do is find where that " elsewhere " is.

Regards,

BM

Schmoj

02-16-09, 22:00

The first time I went to Madahos two years ago, the girls where $ 300 AR, the entrance was $ 50 AR and the girls drink was $ 80 AR for a total of $ 430 AR or about $ 140 USD. It was worth it.

Now, if you include all the price hikes, you are looking at about $ 240 USD. At this current price, the value for money declines and much better can be had elsewhere. Now all you have to do is find where that " elsewhere " is.

Regards,

BMFor all practical purposes, "elsewhere" is somewhere that is not Buenos Aires. From over prices apartments to overpriced restaurants to overpriced poon, this place it almost as expensive as any European or US city.

Tequila Tim

02-17-09, 01:53

For all practical purposes, "elsewhere" is somewhere that is not Buenos Aires. From over prices apartments to overpriced restaurants to overpriced poon, this place it almost as expensive as any European or US city.With all due respect I have to disagree. I can lodge in a nice apartment, dine at a very nice (but for locals) parilla, and get serviced by a privido (or cafe contact) chica for about a US$100/ day. I can't think of any US or european city that can even come close to this. I'm sure some other places are cheaper, but BA is a world class city, not a place where you're going to be bored to death between sessions. Just my 2 cents.

BadMan

02-17-09, 02:49

Thanks Tequila,

I was just going to post a similar reply. Now I know where Schmoj is coming from, and it is true, inflation has gone up significantly over the past 2 years and some prices have gone through the roof.

But I came here from Europe and I go back every year and NO, prices here are nowhere near the prices of Western European nations or even some Eastern European nations. And as far as housing? Forget about it Europe is a joke. Argentina is chump change in comparison.

I currently spend 2-3 times as much living the same lifestyle in Europe as I enjoy in Argentina.

But that doesn't take away from the fact that Argentina has started to decline in value as far as restaurant prices and chicas are concerned.

But there is still good quality to be had. The problem is, I don't think the guys that come to BA for a week or so really have the time to seek those " places " out. And believe me, those place are out there.

Regards,

BM.
With all due respect I have to disagree. I can lodge in a nice apartment, dine at a very nice (but for locals) parilla, and get serviced by a privido (or cafe contact) chica for about a US$100/ day. I can't think of any US or european city that can even come close to this. I'm sure some other places are cheaper, but BA is a world class city, not a place where you're going to be bored to death between sessions. Just my 2 cents.

Sportsman

02-17-09, 22:54

Now all you have to do is find where that " elsewhere " is.Just two days ago I spent ten hours (from 3:00 pm to 1:00 am) in a FKK club in Germany. For 50€ entrance fee, I got two full meals and a late night snack, all the soft drinks and café latte I wanted (beer and wine too if I cared to), and the use of sauna and whirlpool equipment. I had sessions with four beautiful girls from Turkey, Poland, Slovakia, and one 6 foot platinum blond from Czech Repbulic. This girl has the look and body of a runway model and can easily cause car accidents even on the streets of Paris and New York. She gave me DFK, wet and sloppy BBBJ, licked my inner thighs from left to right and back, then multiple positions to finish. The whole day cost me 50€ + (4 X 50€) = 250€.

I still love BA, but as always leave places like Madaho to someone else. It's their money.

BadMan

02-18-09, 02:18

Chicks here are still 150-200 AR. I would never eat a meal in a PV or Terma, but I am sure one can be had.

I think I am pretty accurate as far a my cost of living stats from first hand experience.

I will be the first to say, European girls, Eastern Europeans in particular are heads and tails above Argentina's.

As far as P4P in Europe, my experience is quite limited.

But I know what your saying. I would much rather pass on Madahos and enjoy a good eastern European hottie any day of the week.

But just a general Example:

Most expensive real estate in BA $ 5000 USD a sq meter.

Most expensive real estate in Eastern European $ 25000 a sq meter.

Average current cost in BA $ 2400 a sq meter.

Average current cost in EEU $ 10000 a sq meter.

Not even in the same ballpark.

This is my baseline.

Regards,

BM.
Just two days ago I spent ten hours (from 3:00 pm to 1:00 am) in a FKK club in Germany. For 50€ entrance fee, I got two full meals and a late night snack, all the soft drinks and café latte I wanted (beer and wine too if I cared to) and the use of sauna and whirlpool equipment. I had sessions with four beautiful girls from Turkey, Poland, Slovakia, and one 6 foot platinum blond from Czech Repbulic. This girl has the look and body of a runway model and can easily cause car accidents even on the streets of Paris and New York. She gave me DFK, wet and sloppy BBBJ, licked my inner thighs from left to right and back, then multiple positions to finish. The whole day cost me 50€ + (4 X 50€) = 250€.

I still love BA, but as always leave places like Madaho to someone else. It's their money.

Musze3000

02-18-09, 03:14

Ok fellas, I have been reading and learning and realize that there are better places to spend my money and find good quality; but I will be taking my first trip to BA next week and I have to experience one of these spots at least once even if it will cost me a little more!

So with that said which one do you guys recommend as of recent, Madahos, Black etc? Just need to say I visited one of these places at least once! Any help much appreciated!

Musze

Master J

02-18-09, 05:14

I will be there in a week or so. I would definately recommend Blackahosnessasiacubaorobigone. Hope that help.

I am always a fan of both Black first for the eye candy and the absurdness of the no touch policy on the chicas part, and Madahos was more like a flesh brawl last time out. Feel free to ask any any time for additional info. Just a thought test the waters first night and don't be afraid to nurse a drink until you get a lay of the land. Scout.

I am really looking foward to Casa bar, thanxs Sid, Dog, Jackson, Queso, etc. CU all there soon I hope.

BadMan

02-18-09, 10:43

Man, if I were you I would go to both.

Black is supposed to have slightly higher quality and prices. But that is subjective and depends on the day. But I would go to both, even if you don't take one out. As far as pricing, you will probably spend from $ 200-$300 USD when taking a girk out of one of those clubs (this will include entrance and drink fees etc)

Best days to go are Tuesday thru Thursday.

I don't go there very often anymore, but if I were coming to town only for a quick visit, I would definitely make a stop. Even if only to take in the eye candy.

Have fun and if possible post a report.

Regards,

BM.
Ok fellas, I have been reading and learning and realize that there are better places to spend my money and find good quality; but I will be taking my first trip to BA next week and I have to experience one of these spots at least once even if it will cost me a little more!

So with that said which one do you guys recommend as of recent, Madahos, Black etc? Just need to say I visited one of these places at least once! Any help much appreciated!

Musze

Daddy Rulz

02-18-09, 11:55

Ricker

02-18-09, 14:34

Master J

02-18-09, 15:04

IMHO you pay your entry fee, nurse a brew and have chicks flirting and vying for your attention. Seems like a decent way to pass an evening. If by chance 1 catches your eye and it seems like it might be worth it, then it's on. I am not sure why the AVOID alert is on. Caution yes.

BadMan

02-18-09, 16:37

Calling Madahos a rip off joint is just insane.

Just cuz I drive a Volkswagen doesn't mean an Audi is a rip off. I just choose to spend my money on a slightly cheaper vehicle. Some one else might not mind spending a little more and getting an Audi. Now they are basically the same vehicle. But if it makes people happy to drive it, more power to them. I'm not going to " hate ".

I have been to Madahos many many times. And I have had a great time 85% of the time. That is the truth. You can go to my thread to read my 10+ positive reviews.

Some experiences are better than others. But that is all subjective. As a monger coming to BA for the first time, Black and Madahos is a can't miss. Whether you take a girl out or not. The first time experience alone is worth the $ 24 USD entrance fee.

And take note, most of the naysayers have been to Madahos multiple times and might continue to go if prices hadn't gotten too high for them. That's the simple truth.

Yes, it has gotten much more expensive and it isn't the value it used to be, but that is also subjective.

AP is notorious for it's cheap skates. Take their pricing advice with a grain of salt.

Regards,

BM.

Tony Nelson

02-18-09, 16:48

Badman, you sound convincing. Just arrived in BA and look forward to test-driving the Audi. Will report back. Also wanted to try Black and Cocodrillo. Anything else?

Jackjack1

02-18-09, 16:54