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Jackson
01-01-05, 02:00
Moved from the 2005 Travel Reports thread

Regulr Travlr
09-12-05, 20:10
The pussification of American men can lead to trouble elsewhere in the world. Just recently reentering the dating scene here in the US there is a huge expectation for the sensitive man. Just a lot of hard work to get even a sniff of good things. I do remember my early 20's (pre-marriage) when I probably got the most pussy per capita ever in my life. It came from being a real "dickhead". I had that approach because I knew there was always more pussy available from other willing women so I wouldn't have to deal with any of their attitude.

However, after nearly 20 years with the ball and chain, that approach had been relegated to the back of my brain. I appreciate knowing in advance of my trip that I should use the old approach with the chicas. The question will be if I will be able to revert to Alan Alda when I return to the US.

Traveller

Daddy Rulz
09-13-05, 00:20
The question will be if I will be able to revert to Alan Alda when I return to the US.

TravellerOh I hope not. Remember guys, nothing wrong with kindness, opening doors, making sure they cum first. They apreciate a Cavillero. The issue is when they don't show you props for treating them well or try to dictate terms. This is a great zero tolerance area. I see negotiations as a three step process,.

Meet and greet: try to make them laugh they will quickly pick up the idea that while it's business it could be a good time as well.

Negotiate: Be tough, know what the fuck you want and communicate it. Don't be shy at ALL just fucking say you want to watch them eat out their girlfriend while shes on the rag. Or you want a BBBJ while shes wearing a sheep costume. They need to understand that they are there to SERVE you and that you are UNAFRAID to get what you want. Negotiate ONLY to your terms. Again and again Daddy says THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF HOT YOUNG WILLING PUSSY in BsAs. Most nights there is a GLUT SO THE CONSUMER RULES THE MARKET NOT THE SUPPLIER. Sorry to yell but it can't be said enough. You can't be unreasonable, don't expect to bag a 10 to do some loathing unatural sex act for you$S20.00. At the same time, 200 pesos is a lot of money there.

Seal the deal: Once negotiations are compleated treat her like a lady, tonsil hockey in the bar is ok but in a secluded area. Don't put your hand up her skirt in front of her friends. Treat her like a lady and she will treat you like a man. Richard T's success in free TLN I'm convinced is due to breakfast and cunnilingus. If they are having a good time they will hang out.

Hope this helps

OslersVoice
09-13-05, 10:56
I wonder how much money you could make re-teaching this attitude to all the Alan Aldas in the USA? It's not anything radical but I think many have just forgotten or never learned to do this.

Daddy Rulz
09-13-05, 12:01
I wonder how much money you could make re-teaching this attitude to all the Alan Aldas in the USA? It's not anything radical but I think many have just forgotten or never learned to do this.At the present time it's impossible. The courts are totally with women. You could only do it with girlfriends and you couldn't spank them of course as here in the EEUU it would be assult. The problem in the States is women are not held responsible for their actions. We have practicly diefied single mothers. If a wife punches her husband and he defends himself, he not she will most likely go to jail. Here in Texas a few years ago some guy was peeping in a womans apartment (I don't condone it) and she saw him. He ran and she chased him and shot him in the back and killed him. The grand jury didn't indite her. Lorenna Bobbit spent only 45 days in the hospital for cutting off half of Johns dick.

On a positive note though, I'm thinking Nancy Kissle will be spending some time behind bars in Hong Kong. After her husband filed for divorce bevause she was having an affair she drugged him and beat his head in. Her defence is of course battered wife syndrom. I'm hoping that doesn't fly in china.

This should probably be in the "American Woman" thread from the WSG so I won't continue here.

Jaimito Cartero
09-13-05, 14:00
Do you think you fancy that woman at Excedra who'll do it for 20 pesos? I know you're spelling Exedra wrong, just to get his goat. I think you'd have to pay DH money to let Hilda blow him, though.

Dickhead
09-13-05, 16:36
I would let her blow me for free. I can just close my eyes, can't I? But I'd need to clear it with Exon first, even though he's been fucking Gisell behind my back (on the other hand I fuck Gisell right to his face).

Hunt99
09-13-05, 20:58
I know you're spelling Exedra wrong, just to get his goat. I think you'd have to pay DH money to let Hilda blow him, though.Excedra, Exedra, Schmedra. It's "that's coffee shop down there on Carlos Pelligrini and Cordoba." And when I sample the cuisine de DH on my next trip, it'll be "that place where I bought Richard T the best 20 peso blowjob he's ever had.":)

One Tree Hill
09-13-05, 22:35
Or you want a BBBJ while shes wearing a sheep costume. Dayum son!:)

Daddy Rulz
09-14-05, 04:14
Dayum son!:)Seriously bro it's why us liberals are better people. We really, really don't care who and what you want to fuck and aren't interested in keeping you from doing it. Sheep costumes may not be your thing but I promise you it's somebodys thing. Everybody has there thing, Exons is fucking 80 year old women. Now He's fucking disgusting. And Hunt wants to watch Bennie fuck her, that's beyond disgusting and it is something the Argentine Supream Court NEEDS to fucking rule on.

Hunt99
09-14-05, 12:11
Seriously bro it's why us liberals are better people. We really, really don't care who and what you want to fuck and aren't interested in keeping you from doing it. Sheep costumes may not be your thing but I promise you it's somebodys thing. Everybody has there thing, Exons is fucking 80 year old women. Now He's fucking disgusting. And Hunt wants to watch Bennie fuck her, that's beyond disgusting and it is something the Argentine Supream Court NEEDS to fucking rule on.For a liberal, openminded guy, you're sure quick to call in the Federales to want to ban my voyeuristic fetish.;)

And anyway, for what it's worth, you got my fantasy wrong. What I'd really like to see is Bennie and Exon doing a DP on Brunnehilda (or whatever her name is) while up at the other end, she polishes DH's knob. Now tell me, isn't THAT something you'd pay 50 pesos admission just to witness?:D

Daddy Rulz
09-14-05, 13:17
For a liberal, openminded guy, you're sure quick to call in the Federales to want to ban my voyeuristic fetish.;)

And anyway, for what it's worth, you got my fantasy wrong. What I'd really like to see is Bennie and Exon doing a DP on Brunnehilda (or whatever her name is) while up at the other end, she polishes DH's knob. Now tell me, isn't THAT something you'd pay 50 pesos admission just to witness?:DWhen I read that I unfortunatly wasn't able to stop the imagry from popping into my mind and immediatly turned gay. Hunt99 must pay.

One Tree Hill
09-14-05, 23:55
Seriously bro it's why us liberals are better peopleAnd so much smarter as well. Given that you can extrapolate so much from a two word reply. But to be honest. I don't get into it with libs. Nor do I hold it against you (nothing personal)

Score =

Republicans 4 (Pres, House, Senate, Sup Court)

Dems 0

Afterall, bitching is for losers (thanks Bill Clinton for the 94 republican revolution) My team is poised for 30 years of rule:)

God bless Howard Dean. He makes it just too easy.

Daddy Rulz
09-15-05, 04:33
And so much smarter as well. Given that you can extrapolate so much from a two word reply. But to be honest. I don't get into it with libs. Nor do I hold it against you (nothing personal)

Score =

Republicans 4 (Pres, House, Senate, Sup Court)

Dems 0

Afterall, bitching is for losers (thanks Bill Clinton for the 94 republican revolution) My team is poised for 30 years of rule:)

God bless Howard Dean. He makes it just too easy.Piece o pussy against 150 pesos (I'm full up on pussy) says your thirty year prediction is wrong.

Two things, may we both be alive to see it and since we both transgresed and brought politics to the pussy board can we agree to hang our heads in shame and return it to the American Politics board.

Nibu Raphael
03-27-06, 16:45
Guys They Are Both Crooks. Sheeze Do not people know also That John Kerry And Bush Are Cousins and Both in Skull And Bones? They also participate in The Sick Bohemian Grove events that happen in Northern Califorina too.

Nibu Raphael
04-18-06, 17:54
Ha Exon is in to fucking 80 year old women. Well maybe if it was an old ex porn star yes. I know Kay Parker is 60. I would do her in a heartbeat. What about ex porn star Helga Sven? She must be near 80 now. I would love to fuck her good. I once did an older lady in Callao Peru at the Traocadero bordello like about 4 years back. She was in her young 50s but looked like she was going on 70. She sucked me off good with out her teeth as she had false teeth. Man the best head I got in my life. I think I told jackson a bunch of these stories too. I fucked her too as I was horny and she monunted me good but then took that toothless blow job bareback. Whoooaaa mama that ruled. I need to break that record for a blow job. I mentioned to Jackson to the toothless whores only two of them working at the brothel chono outside of Nazca Peru. I think it costs 2 soles to get in and 5 soles for sex. Just like two bucks. I think in India you can find whores for a buck and under. Now that is great fuck for under a buck. I think the trickers fuck those truckstop whores for as little as 50 cents or any small loose change. Alright a little off topic here but would I do the same as exon then ok. I also love a hot teen of 18 and 19. I love those two fucking extremes. Had a friend in vegas who just thought like me on that too. Shit man this world gets crazier and crazier each fucking day. And I fucking live in the US where a maniac named Bush wants to nuke Iran soon. Shit on to serious news that would bring on ww3 and all the revoluntionaries in South America that hate us would try to conterattack as. Ok I am out of here maybe my motto of fucking girls 18 to 65 should be changed from 18 to 80.
Seriously bro it's why us liberals are better people. We really, really don't care who and what you want to fuck and aren't interested in keeping you from doing it. Sheep costumes may not be your thing but I promise you it's somebodys thing. Everybody has there thing, Exons is fucking 80 year old women. Now He's fucking disgusting. And Hunt wants to watch Bennie fuck her, that's beyond disgusting and it is something the Argentine Supream Court NEEDS to fucking rule on.

El Perro
04-18-06, 18:26
Nibu reminds me of that crazy, big Haitian fuck in one of the "Roger Moore James Bond's". You know, the guy that would come out of the coffin shaking bones and all, screaming gibberish and either scaring the shit outta people, or in this case, boring them after his umpteenth appearance from the underworld. Where's your hat Nibu?

Hunt99
04-18-06, 19:32
Nibu reminds me of that crazy, big Haitian fuck in one of the "Roger Moore James Bond's". You know, the guy that would come out of the coffin shaking bones and all, screaming gibberish and either scaring the shit outta people, or in this case, boring them after his umpteenth appearance from the underworld. Where's your hat Nibu?We love that hat, Nibu!

Nibu Raphael
04-18-06, 20:00
OK Guys Enough of THE XXX Talk. Why Is The Maniac threatening Iran with Nukes? Shit Even Hitler or Stalin did not Have Nukes. Is Fucking Bush Out of his mind? What kind of Assholes are running The White House? A Bunch of Fucking Nuts. Jackson Sorry I Love You But Your Politics Are totally wrong. We All Know too That In The End Kirchner Hates The US But Is Being a Diplomat these days. Maradona is also Very Anti Bush And Friends with Castro Probably with Chavez Too. Shit a Bunch of Lunatics are in charge Now. Guys Wake up And Smell the cofee Stop listening to Pricks Like Hannitty or Limbough or Nasty Michael Savage Weinerhead. Listen to alternative means media like Jeff Rense, Alex Jones, David Icke. Georgy Nory on www.coastocoastam.com I would not even trust Lou Dobbs either cause he said bad stuff a few years ago about The Gold Situation. If These Lunatics Attack Iran This could maybe bring WW 3 If Not Then More Terorisim for sure. Wake up My Fellow Mongers Please, Sincerly Nibu Raphael.

Hi,

I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...

Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Jackson

Hunt99
04-18-06, 21:24
OK Guys Enough of THE XXX Talk. Why Is The Maniac threatening Iran with Nukes? Shit Even Hitler or Stalin did not Have Nukes. Is Fucking Bush Out of his mind? What kind of Assholes are running The White House? A Bunch of Fucking Nuts. Jackson Sorry I Love You But Your Politics Are totally wrong. We All Know too That In The End Kirchner Hates The US But Is Being a Diplomat these days. Maradona is also Very Anti Bush And Friends with Castro Probably with Chavez Too. Shit a Bunch of Lunatics are in charge Now. Guys Wake up And Smell the cofee Stop listening to Pricks Like Hannitty or Limbough or Nasty Michael Savage Weinerhead. Listen to alternative means media like Jeff Rense, Alex Jones, David Icke. Georgy Nory on www.coastocoastam.com I would not even trust Lou Dobbs either cause he said bad stuff a few years ago about The Gold Situation. If These Lunatics Attack Iran This could maybe bring WW 3 If Not Then More Terorisim for sure. Wake up My Fellow Mongers Please, Sincerly Nibu Raphael.Actually, the Israelis are more likely to do it than President Bush. Seeing as the Iranians claim that "Israel will be wiped off the map," and that "Israel will soon be annihiliated in a single storm", I think they may have good reason to act before the Mad Mullahs get atomic warheads mounted on top of long-range missiles.

Exon123
04-18-06, 21:29
Well stated Nibu Raphael George Bush is a Fuck and a War Monger, (all though for some strange Jackson likes him) We on this board are completely different types of Mongers, We make Love not War.

But your wrong as you wrote below. I don't "Fuck Old Women", well maybe with the exception of "Hilda" at Cafe Excedra but thats different. You see Hilda needs Cock too, so I Fuck her now and then. Its a "Mercy Fuck" you see because none of the other Mongers will due her.

But please don't tell "Miss Sole" I've been Fucking Hilda, she'd want to cut my balls off.

Exon

Nibu Raphael
04-18-06, 21:43
Great Guy Jackson is But Why Is He Pro Bush? Is it a Conspiracy? Did You See on Yahoo News Chavez Is Now Starting up The Citizens Miltia and paying them Up to 8 bucks an hour. He Said He will not Let Any Gringos Invade His Country. Shit I Just Invade Chavezs Country to Make Love Not War.

Hi,

I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...

Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Jackson


Well stated Nibu Raphael George Bush is a Fuck and a War Monger, (all though for some strange Jackson likes him) We on this board are completely different types of Mongers, We make Love not War.

But your wrong as you wrote below. I don't "Fuck Old Women", well maybe with the exception of "Hilda" at Cafe Excedra but thats different. You see Hilda needs Cock too, so I Fuck her now and then. Its a "Mercy Fuck" you see because none of the other Mongers will due her.

But please don't tell "Miss Sole" I've been Fucking Hilda, she'd want to cut my balls off.

Exon

Jjgoinslow
04-19-06, 04:00
After Hurricane Katrina hit Oil companies like Exxon exploited the situation to reap record profits and keep the price of oil risin and risin, consumer advocates and even our wimpy congress had a few stand up and demand Bush step in, national emergency and all, and put a cap on oil prices, put some pressure on the oil companies. Well what do you think that greasy oily bush did? Nothing of course. NADA. Meanwhile, exxon posted the largest corporate profit of any corporation in the history of the world! Now, what did Chavez do? Well besides making a bunch of anti-bush speeches (keep up the good work Hugo! CHAVEZ CREATED A PROGRAM TO PROVIDE OIL RELIEF TO COMMUNITIES AFFECTED BY KATRINA AND TO POOR COMMUNITIES IN THE US MORE GENERALLY! Friggin Chavez is giving us welfare while our own gov is too damn busy stealin from us. Bush is a disgrace / Long Live Chavez!

Jj

Exon123
04-19-06, 13:11
Thats all nonsense, Oil prices are set by the varrious commodity exchanges around the world including New York, London, Amsterdam, Hong Kong, ect, ect, Not Big Oil Companies. The world market sets the price.

In fact "Big Oil" is at the mercy of the world price of Oil, they don't dictate it.

The fact is that after Hurricane Katriana roughfully 25% of the refinning capacity of the entire United States was "Shut Down" and or "Destroyed". It was so bad that some companies barged in refinded product from Europe & Asia or the price would have gone much higher.

Exon knows, "I do this for a living"

But to make a Political point Hugo Chavez did send a couple of loads of Heating Oil to the North East at reduced prices to embarrass the War Monger Bush.

Exon

Nibu Raphael
04-19-06, 15:06
To Exon You Seem like a Great Guy for sure. I would love to still be friends with you. Jj You Got it right on Chavez for sure. He Does Have His Corruption too but at least He Is trying to help out his people not Like Bush That Creep Just keeps on robbing THE US. I Know also here another great Monger that goes to Argentina is Also Very Anti Bush The Great Judd The Same With Chicagoboy. It just sucks with Us Mongers cause of This Corrupt administration it is putting us apart but in Venezuela Chavez is getting the people to unite. I At First Hated Chavez But I Found out he is trying to do the right thing. Sure He Is Not Perfect And He Is Friends with That Creep Fidel. I Hate Castro totally too but Chavez is no Castro. Chavez does not have many endless prisons in Venezuela like Fidel Does in cuba. There is Not Police watching you all the time like in Cuba. Now Actually talking about Latin Counties. In Most Latin Countries you Have way more freedom Then in The Fascist USA. We used to have all the freedom. What Happened? This Is So Sad. Again About Globalism That Is Wrong. If Chavez Counters against this I Support him. I am no Chavista At all and I will not wear a Red Shirt Like Chavez And The Chavistas. I just seek the truth. Like I Said in another post Bush And people in Mexico like Vincente Fox Are Robbing there people Bad. Chavez Is Trying to help out his people.

Hi Nibu,

First I asked, and now I'm going to tell you:

Any reports that you submit from now on that are in all Proper Case will be deleted without comment.

Jackson

Nibu Raphael
04-19-06, 15:32
Yes Dude I am trying to date here in THE US and It is Hard. I am trying everday here on www.adultfriendfinder.com Has Anyone else had luck on this site? There is also www.alt.com
The pussification of American men can lead to trouble elsewhere in the world. Just recently reentering the dating scene here in the US there is a huge expectation for the sensitive man. Just a lot of hard work to get even a sniff of good things. I do remember my early 20's (pre-marriage) when I probably got the most pussy per capita ever in my life. It came from being a real "dickhead". I had that approach because I knew there was always more pussy available from other willing women so I wouldn't have to deal with any of their attitude.

However, after nearly 20 years with the ball and chain, that approach had been relegated to the back of my brain. I appreciate knowing in advance of my trip that I should use the old approach with the chicas. The question will be if I will be able to revert to Alan Alda when I return to the US.

Traveller

Jjgoinslow
04-19-06, 17:01
Oh, yes of course, the market, the market, the market.

Repeat the mantra, all together now. I'm not some wall-eyed conspiracy theorist who thinks exxon controls the world economy.

And that Bush and Cheney are responsible for the very existence of terrorism or of 911 for that matter. But people who talk about the market as if it were some kind of objective external force (the invisible hand and all that BS) are missing the bigger picture. Don't be naive, there is what we call a political-economy to any large industry, the manipulation, pressuring, rule-setting, exploitation, who has power, who doesnt, how power changes hands, so forth and so on.

A few stories for enlightenment on the current topic.

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0536,ridgewaycolu,67514,2.html
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/gas_prices_testimony.html
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0911-22.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/02/AR2005090202079.html

There is alot of much deeper stuff, academic articles and books on the broader subject of power and oil and world politics, if anyone has the ganas to step back from the mesmerizing market mantra and learn a bit about our world, I can suggest books.

Anyway I said they exploit the situation, not that they control it,

In the same way that bush / cheney exploited US fears post-911, I would never contend that their is sufficient evidence to say they master-minded 911, they don't have to do such things, decades of american aggression in the middle-east is sufficient to foment all kinds of opposition and hatred.

Exon, when you say you do this for a living, do you mean you are an investor? An analyst? Work directly for the oil companies? Are you then fabulously wealthy? Or did you mean you are a historian? Or a journalist? What is 'this'?

Jj.


Thats all nonsense, Oil prices are set by the varrious commodity exchanges around the world including New York, London, Amsterdam, Hong Kong, ect, ect, Not Big Oil Companies. The world market sets the price.

In fact "Big Oil" is at the mercy of the world price of Oil, they don't dictate it.

The fact is that after Hurricane Katriana roughfully 25% of the refinning capacity of the entire United States was "Shut Down" and or "Destroyed". It was so bad that some companies Barged in refinded product from Europe & Asia or the price would have gone much higher.

Exon knows, "I do this for a living"

But to make a Political point Hugo Chavez did send a couple of loads of Heating Oil to the North East at reduced prices to embarrass the War Monger Bush.

Exon

Exon123
04-19-06, 18:28
Exon,

When you say you do this for a living, do you mean you are an investor? An analyst? Work directly for the oil companies? Are you then fabulously wealthy? Or did you mean you are a historian? Or a journalist? What is 'this'?

What it means Jjgoinslow is that I'm a hell of alot smarter than you.

Exon

Jjgoinslow
04-19-06, 19:27
Trillions! Gowzers!


A study by Joseph Stiglitz asserts. Assumes a pull-out by 2010. Bush and his people origially estimated 50 to 100 million!Exactly, from a purely economic point of view, he's screwing us all and increasing the US dependency on war for economic stability. Even conservatives should be able to appreciate this.

Now, many people when engaging in political debate fail to provide evidence, much less a logical thinking process where conclusions are deduced from backed up premises. Now here we have Exon, whose best argument he can put forth to me is that he does this for a living and is "smarter" than me. I won't debate your expertise on paid-for argentine pussy Exon, but that credential doesnt really impress me. I don't monger to impress my friends or the peanut gallery on this board, I do it cause I like screwing beautiful women. As well I debate politics because I enjoy it. I don't think my adversaries are 'stupid', I just think they (including you) are ignorant on these particular subjects. And generally, dead wrong.

Now, here in Hugo Chaves's own words a description of his oil program. Try to get the crippled US gov to stand up and manage such a gesture!

Jj.

JUAN GONZALEZ: Mr. President, welcome. Bien venido a los Estados Unidos. Your democratic revolution has a different aspect to it, in that your rich in oil, and the world badly needs oil. What do you do in Latin America to use oil as a weapon to assist the poor. Can you tell us a little more about what you are offering to the communities of the United States who are also suffering from high oil prices.

PRESIDENT HUGO CHAVEZ: This is the result of our awareness, that only through integration we can advance and we can progress among Latin American countries, breaking the paradigm of capitalism, of free trade, and neo-liberalism. In the year 2000, we started a cooperation program especially with the Caribbean and Central American countries, and some of the South American countries, with the Caracas Energy Accord, and there for the first time in history we included Cuba, because Cuba is considered like a country that is not part the Americas, and we think it is part of the Americas; Jamaica, nicaragua, grenada, many countries.

This mechanism includes the sale of oil and oil by-products with a discount of up to 25 percent. This discount becomes in the end a donation we give these countries, however, when the price of oil, starts increases, in the year 2000 we signed the Caracas Accord and the price at that time was 20, 25 dollars a barrel. When we realized that the prices started to increase and it goes beyond 40 and beyond 50, and I doubt very much the price is going to drop any time soon because this is part of the structural crisis, the world has to face it, it is a reality. There is a drop in the oil reserves, there is an increase in consumption and demand. The refining capacity is low.

The consumerism of the world is unbearable. The world of the you. S. People must come to understand, how this country with 5 percent of the world population only, consumes 25 percent of the oil and the energy of the world. I mean that type of consumption is totally unbearable and this planet cannot stand it any more. When we realized that the price of oil went up beyond 50 dollars, we initiated another cooperation scheme. We have created, therefore, Petrocaribe and we are going to start with small Caribbean and Caricom countries, and the larger Antillas such as Cuba, Jamaica, and Dominican Republic.

So we're now providing, first we're ensuring the supply of oil, direct supply of oil from state to state, in order to avoid the speculation of multinationals and traders. They buy gasoline in Venezuela and then they go to a Caribbean country, and they charge double so we are selling the products to the states directly. We are not charging for freight, we assume the cost of freight. But apart from that, this discount is not of 25 percent it goes to 40 percent of the total, and this money will be paid back in 25 years time, with 2 years of grace and 1 percent interest rates. So if you make all of the mathematical calculations, the donation percentage is almost 70 percent because it's a long term adjusted 1 percent. So what Venezuela's doing is supplying 200,000 barrels of oil to the Caribbean and other Central American and South American countries such as Paraguay, Uruguay and smaller nations in South America. 200, 000 millions of barrels, if you apply calculations, mathematical calculations by 1.5 percent of our GDP, 1.5 percent of the GDP is devoted to this cooperation. It means we are financing these sister nations that next year will reach 1.7 billion dollars a year, in 10 years is 17 billion dollars. It's a way for us to share, to share our resources with these countries.

And what about the us population? Well after many meetings with the you. S. Citizens, we decided to propose a scheme for poor populations and low-income populations in the us. We've seen that poverty in the us is growing everywhere. It's close to 11 percent poverty according to some estimates and instead of the figures you have to go deeper into it because if you see Katrina, and you saw what's happened, 100,000 people were abandoned and they are abandoned, and they're just surviving.

So here we have CITGO, this oil company. We have the CITGO company here in the United States. This is a Venezuelan company, so let's have a look at the you. S. Map the distribution area of CITGO in the you. S. We are present in 14,000 gas stations in the you. S. And here we have a different refineries, asphalt refineries, eight refineries that we have in the you. S. The plants for filling units, the third, refineries, terminals, and so on.

We want to use these infrastructures to help the poor populations. We have made some progress. We have given instructions to the president of CITGO, Felix Rodriguez. We want that up to 10 percent we refine here. We supply every day to the us 1.5 million barrels of oil, crude and product and we refine, here, close to 800,000 barrels a day refined here in the us. So we would like to take 10 percent of what we refine those products and to offer these products in several modalities to the poor populations. And the pilot project will be starting in Chicago we are already operating in Chicago. Well let's hope that there's not going to be any obstacle by the government opposed to this project being implemented, but we will be working in those poor populations. We have some allies, local partners and we have a number of communities, and we are going to donate some heating oil, because the winter is close, and for the school transportation to school, for the Mexican neighborhood which is the largest in Chicago, La Villita, is the name of this neighborhood with close to 900,000 inhabitants, and so there are other neighborhoods with Hispanics and Latinos. October, the 14th we're going to start with these pilot projects with small communities and schools, but there are other pilot projects that will start in November in Boston, and here in New York.

So different modalities, with local authorities, mayors, organized communities, religious groups. So we are very pleased to announce this. And to help just with a drop, and a grain of contribution to help these low-income populations, Blacks or Hispanics or also White population so we're just starting with this project.

Nibu Raphael
04-19-06, 20:23
When will Chavez Start that program in Chicago? The winter is over so he will have to do it later this year. I Hope he does that for sure. Go Hugo Chavez Frias Vive The Revolucion against globalism.

Nibu Raphael
04-19-06, 20:49
Exon,

If you do not do this for a living what do you mean? Also why in maraks helps out the music scene thread you say its getting out of hand. I know all about the rock scene in argentina and music in general why knock me on something else I am ggod at music too just not sex.
Exon, when you say you do this for a living, do you mean you are an investor? An analyst? Work directly for the oil companies? Are you then fabulously wealthy? Or did you mean you are a historian? Or a journalist? What is 'this'?

What it means Jjgoinslow is that I'm a hell of alot smarter than you.

Exon

Exon123
04-19-06, 20:57
Nibu Raphael I'm good at Sex, just not music.

Exon

Nibu Raphael
04-21-06, 17:20
Dude And after you cum what do you do smoke a cigarrete have a beer turn up the tunes? I like to here my msic too a lot. OK then you are ron jermey or tom byron. Well at least Ron Jermey is a Motorhead fan.
Nibu Raphael I'm good at Sex, just not music.

Exon

Nibu Raphael
05-05-06, 15:04
The great goblin used to help me out on conspiracy reports here but I guess he bowed out on me. Oh well I am still here. www.infowars.com www.prisonplanet.com

Nibu Raphael
05-05-06, 15:33
Sorry Jackson I know you are watching now but crap like this is why people argue on this site. Anyways I should have responded to this a long time ago but I have been busy on other things on the internet like nowadays trying to figure out how to contact girls on myspace. Com Well either way things are alright with me in the colombia section. But now I see other mongers bickering there. That stuff is stupid. The 3 guys argueing there all seem like cool dudes but they are all infighting and name calling. I hate seeing that. I only do that when someone attacks me. So far all is cool with me these days. I am also happy the great judd will be in be. A. This weekend. He is a totally cool monger. Marak also seems like a cool monger. I might hook up with him next weekend for sure. I am having trouble also from my friends computer getting on the usa sex guide. I think my friend has filters cause of his daughter. I hopefully will get my computer installed next month. Might even Do Mexico next month too. O. K. Guys lets stop the infighting. Also meet up with judd guys this weekend. He rules.
Nibu reminds me of that crazy, big Haitian fuck in one of the "Roger Moore James Bond's". You know, the guy that would come out of the coffin shaking bones and all, screaming gibberish and either scaring the shit outta people, or in this case, boring them after his umpteenth appearance from the underworld. Where's your hat Nibu?

El Perro
05-06-06, 15:53
Well, it has not taken long for Karl Rove (with help from his friends) to begin the daunting task of shoring up conservative support for the beleaugered Bush administration. Case in point, Cheney's recent frontal assault on Russia / Putin re: human rights and undemocratic governing. Surely, as an old cold warrior, it does not take much prodding for Cheney to express such opinions about the commie menace. Upon further examination however, it should be clear that this is politically inspired. The republicans are desperate to reestablish their conservative credentials with the rightist elements in the party. The Bush administration has already lost many moderate republicans, and if they don't energize the conservative base they face possible disaster in the midterm elections. What better way to avoid that, than to cravenly appeal to the old (now paranoid) fears about the "evil empire". This is Rove's stock in trade. No matter that it might have a negative impact geopolitically. National politics, and getting republicans elected no matter what, is the first priority.

An observation of Rove's methods and his "waterboys". No, the Doggboy handle is not being controlled by the dreaded Goblin. Nor do I subscribe to the hysterical meanderings of Mr. Raphael. That said, the republican strategists are a creative and disingenuous lot.

Doggboy

Hunt99
05-06-06, 18:38
National politics, and getting republicans elected no matter what, is the first priority.And you think that's not the first priority of the Democrats?


the republican strategists are a creative and disingenuous lot.

DoggboyAgain, do you think the Democrats aren't?

El Perro
05-06-06, 19:22
And you think that's not the first priority of the Democrats?

Again, do you think the Democrats aren't?1. Your guess is as good as mine regarding the Democrat's priorities. What is clear, is that the Republicans play as a team (most of the time) and the Democrats are a bunch of undisciplined free agents. The Republicans want to get "their guy" elected. The Democrats have a tough time selecting who "their guy" might be (with some notable exceptions)

2. The Democrats are not as Machiavellian as the Republicans. Unfortunately, with the media playing such a large role in who gets elected, the better manipulators tend to win. The question then becomes an ethical one, how dastardly one plays the game. Over the past twenty years the Republicans have lowered the bar to the point where a midget limbo dancer couldn't get under it. The reflexive response from Republicans, "the Democrats do the same thing" is just that, a reflexive response, not based on an objective look at the political playground. Nobody wants to admit that they cheat at a game, and defining "cheating" in politics is a risky endeavor at best, but you would have to be blind, deaf and dumb not to see who is more "accomplished" at dirty tricks.

The long term downside of all this is that the concept of "statesmenship", working for the good of the country at large, and having at least some conception of "the rules of the game" is lost. And, once you head in that direction, there is NO going back.

All IMHO.

Expat for a reason dog

Hunt99
05-07-06, 12:09
The long term downside of all this is that the concept of "statesmenship", working for the good of the country at large, and having at least some conception of "the rules of the game" is lost. And, once you head in that direction, there is NO going back.The desire for "statesmanship," when offered within the context of contemporary politics, is a load of crap. The great statesman of the late 20th Century is now pretty-much universally regarded to have been Ronald Reagan. When he was in office, he was hated, mocked, despised, belittled, insulted, and undermined by his political opponents as much (or even more) than George W. Bush is today. Millions upon millions of people marched in Europe demanding a restraining hand against Reagan's warmongering.

Churchill was unceremoniously booted from office on his ear at the cusp of final victory in the Second World War in 1945, his unpopularity immense.

True "statesmen" are almost always reviled in their contemporary times in office. They get to be unpopular exactly because they have the foresight which extends beyond tomorrow's spate of public opinion polls asking about popularity.

El Perro
05-07-06, 12:48
The desire for "statesmanship," when offered within the context of contemporary politics, is a load of crap. The great statesman of the late 20th Century is now pretty-much universally regarded to have been Ronald Reagan. When he was in office, he was hated, mocked, despised, belittled, insulted, and undermined by his political opponents as much (or even more) than George W. Bush is today. Millions upon millions of people marched in Europe demanding a restraining hand against Reagan's warmongering.

Churchill was unceremoniously booted from office on his ear at the cusp of final victory in the Second World War in 1945, his unpopularity immense.

True "statesmen" are almost always reviled in their contemporary times in office. They get to be unpopular exactly because they have the foresight which extends beyond tomorrow's spate of public opinion polls asking about popularity.Ouch! Looks like you and I will be better off discussing sports and pussy! Was "Iran / Contra" an example of Reagan's statesmanship?

Befuddled dog

Dickhead
05-07-06, 13:13
Not only was Ronald Reagan the greatest statesman of the 20th century, but the 1962 Mets were the finest ballclub of all time.

El Perro
05-07-06, 13:43
Not only was Ronald Reagan the greatest statesman of the 20th century, but the 1962 Mets were the finest ballclub of all time.Can we discuss Choo Choo Coleman on this thread? Will it bother somebody if we do? And, did he have anything in common with Melvin Laird?

Dickhead
05-07-06, 14:26
Choo Choo Coleman, Sammy Taylor, and of course the inestimable Chris Cannizaro were the true Big Three. If only they'd had Greg Goosen that year they would have been unstoppable. No wonder the great Harry Chiti had trouble getting playing time.

Hunt99
05-07-06, 20:49
Ouch! Looks like you and I will be better off discussing sports and pussy! Was "Iran / Contra" an example of Reagan's statesmanship?

Befuddled dogName me a statesman - any statesman you want. I'll be able to talk about the boners he pulled whilst at the helm.

Woodrow Wilson was a statesman in every sense of the term. His stubbornness and refusal to compromise with the Senate doomed the ratification of the Versailles Treaty and with it, the League of Nations.

Should he be remembered for getting into a (losing) pissing match with Henry Cabot Lodge? That would be like remembering Casey Stengel only for his management of your greatest baseball team ever to take the field.

Rock Harders
05-07-06, 22:33
Hunt99-

Many people who do not really understand how international relations work seem to think that Ronald Reagan was responsible for the end of the Cold War. Ronald Reagan claiming he ended the Cold War is about as accurate as Al Gore claiming to have invented the Internet. Reagan and all his neo-Realist contemporaries greatest failure was their inability to explain the end of the Cold War through their political theory- which essentially proved the limited nature of Realism in general. Only Constructivism (a IR theory that concentrates on social structures as reasons for political change / non change) provided the framework as to why the Cold War would / did end.

Continuing on Reagan, if he had such "foresight", would he really have funded and armed Osama Bin Ladin and the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein in Iraq? I'm not sure if he was applauded in his time for those moves, but I am pretty sure he is not appreciated post-humously for these "statesmen"-like moves.

Republicans and Democrats are both slightly right of center, "catch all" parties, with the Democrats being slightly left of the Republicans. The reason I hate the Republicans is because they value PROPERTY over the welfare of PEOPLE. The core Republican value extends into every single one of their policies, whether economic, social, or foreign. It is all about protecting the property they have and obtaining more property at the expense of others. The greed that fuels these scumbags will be the greed that destroys them, as we will witness come November. I hope, I desire, I wish everyday that the Democrats will take control of both Houses of Congress come November and will make these Republican cockroaches pay for their crimes.

Suerte,

Dirk Diggler

Hi Dirk,

With all due respect, "property" is owned by "people".

Thanks,

Jackson

El Perro
05-08-06, 11:09
Name me a statesman - any statesman you want. I'll be able to talk about the boners he pulled whilst at the helm.

Woodrow Wilson was a statesman in every sense of the term. His stubbornness and refusal to compromise with the Senate doomed the ratification of the Versailles Treaty and with it, the League of Nations.

Should he be remembered for getting into a (losing) pissing match with Henry Cabot Lodge? That would be like remembering Casey Stengel only for his management of your greatest baseball team ever to take the field.Agreed, nobody is perfect, though some less perfect than others.

Hunt99
05-08-06, 11:23
The reason I hate the Republicans is because they value PROPERTY over the welfare of PEOPLE. The core Republican value extends into every single one of their policies, whether economic, social, or foreign. It is all about protecting the property they have and obtaining more property at the expense of others. The greed that fuels these scumbags will be the greed that destroys them, as we will witness come November. I hope, I desire, I wish everyday that the Democrats will take control of both Houses of Congress come November and will make these Republican cockroaches pay for their crimes.

Dirk, I can't argue with reasoning so subtle, elegant, and sophisticated as yours. I cede the field.

Enjoy the Kool-Aid.

Sincerely,

Just Another Cockroach

Moore
05-08-06, 23:39
Millions upon millions of people marched in Europe demanding a restraining hand against Reagan's warmongering.Reagan's what? So was he like LookingForLefty and I?

Nibu Raphael
05-15-06, 14:29
Hey guys actually the next elections we should all vote for the minuteman leader from California Jim Gilchrist. Bush calls these guys vigilantes. Do the law officers know that the mexican mafia has a 2,000 dollar bounty on each law officer or customs agent killed? This ilegal immigration stuff is out of hand. Also aryan irish mexican leader Vicente Fox is a trator to his own people. He hates his people. Also some other trator in the mexican government called Ponotowski or something like that is a Mexcan Polish traitor. This stuff is wrong. If Gilchrist would get elected we could treat up this problem good. The other person to try to become president in the future presidential elections will be crazy nutcase Hillary Clinton. We do not want that at all. No way Jose. Hopfullly Bush does not get dictadorial powers and go for more years as president. I did here Chavez wants to be President until 2030 but Chavez is sort of a folk hero. Alright I am out of here vote for Gilchrist for future President of The you. S.

Bacchus9
10-11-06, 00:30
It ain't over til it's over but this is about the best news in six bleak years of the American Taliban Division's control of the U. S. Government, aka the Republican party. May Nancy Pelosi piss on their piety, menstruate on their ties and then bring the House down on 'em.

From Reuters on 10-10-06:

Democrats hold a growing advantage heading into the final four weeks of the campaign, with analysts moving more Republican-held seats into the high-risk category and improving the odds of Democrats seizing control of at least the House of Representatives.

The polls, all taken after the sex scandal surfaced, show Democratic candidates with huge leads over Republicans amid broad public unhappiness about the Iraq war, Bush's leadership and the Republican-led Congress.

"These polls seem to suggest the public has decided to just 'throw the bums out,'" said Karlyn Bowman, a public opinion analyst at the conservative American Enterprise Institute.

"These are huge, huge, numbers and they are very bad for Republicans," she said. "There is not a shred of good news in these polls for Republicans."

El Perro
10-11-06, 14:01
Couldn't happen to a better bunch of fellas. One mistake after another. They finally bring a pro in to help out (James Baker) after they have fucked up so bad that there is no help. You would have to be a pre 20th century american historian to find a more inept president.

Hunt99
10-11-06, 14:30
Smile! You two are not alone!


Instructor who doubts 9/11 compares Bush to Hitler

MILWAUKEE — A University of Wisconsin-Madison instructor who has come under scrutiny for saying that the U. S. Government orchestrated the Sept. 11 attacks compares President Bush to Adolf Hitler in an essay that his students are being required to buy.

The essay, "Interpreting the Unspeakable: The Myth of 9/11," is part of a $20 book of essays from 15 authors called "9/11 and American Empire: Muslims, Jews, and Christians Speak Out," according to an unedited copy first obtained by WKOW-TV in Madison and later by the Associated Press.

The book is on the syllabus for the twice-a-week course, "Islam: Religion and Culture," being taught by part-time instructor Kevin Barrett, but only three of the essays are required reading, not including Barrett's essay.

Barrett is active in a group called Scholars for 9/11 Truth, whose members say U. S. Officials, not al-Qaida terrorists, were behind the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001.

"Like Bush and the neocons, Hitler and the Nazis inaugurated their new era by destroying an architectural monument and blaming its destruction on their designated enemies," he wrote.

Barrett said Tuesday he was comparing the attacks to the burning of the German parliament building, the Reichstag, in 1933, a key event in the establishment of the Nazi dictatorship.

"That's not comparing them as people, that's comparing the Reichstag fire to the demolition of the World Trade Center, and that's an accurate comparison that I would stand by," he said.

But he did say in an interview: "Hitler had a good 20 to 30 IQ points on Bush so comparing Bush to Hitler would in many ways be an insult to Hitler."http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/news/local/15726943.htm

El Perro
10-11-06, 14:39
For the record I am not a 9/11 conspiracy theory proponent. There's enough republican sponsored insanity that is more than real to be concerned about.;)

Hunt99
10-11-06, 14:44
And they're all voting Democrat.


More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard / Ohio University poll.http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/279827_conspiracy02ww.html

Stormy
10-11-06, 16:31
Another third believe that the savior cannot return until Armageddon happens in the middle east and they are enthusiastic about the chaos there. They, of course, are all voting for George Bush and his ilk.

Hunt99
10-11-06, 18:44
Another third believe that the savior cannot return until Armageddon happens in the middle east and they are enthusiastic about the chaos there. They, of course, are all voting for George Bush and his ilk.Those of us in the reality-based community would ask you to provide some substantiation for this claim. Regarding 9/11 conspiracy theorists constituting one-third of the body politic, I helpfully provided the link below.

Of course, I think you're making a joke here - unfortunately I wasn't joking when I said a third of people believe the US government was responsible for 9/11. A large segment of citizens are becoming positively unhinged.

Daddy Rulz
10-11-06, 22:15
I hope that the Dems can take Congress in November. It's time to restore some balance I think. I don't know about all this 911 crap (and before anybody indicts me for being a conspiracy theorist I had a friend on the crew in UA 93) but our country really needs to return to the idea of checks and balances. I don't like is a congress that just stamps the White Houses policy. I think there are very serious issues regarding the war in Iraq, collusion with big oil, and reapportioning congressional districts. I think Congress should be looking very seriously at it and this congress has only shown a willingness for pork and deficit spending.

I also think it's funny as hell that Fox had been putting D Florida under Foley when they do a story on him.

El Perro
10-11-06, 22:30
I also think it's funny as hell that Fox had been putting D Florida under Foley when they do a story on him.An innocent mistake I am sure. Maybe a new congress could pass legislation mandating that Fox's corporate leaders serve time outside the green zone in Baghdad. For research purposes.

Hunt99
10-12-06, 10:19
An innocent mistake I am sure.Probably the same mistake CNN makes when it claims Foley had sex with an underage page. Of course, 21 is underage when it's a Republican on the end of the allegation, right?

El Perro
10-12-06, 18:20
Today some republican congressman (name escapes me) announced of the Foley scandal "at least it's not Chappaquiddick because nobody died". I am sure that statement will find fruitful purchase with all reasonable voters.;)

Hunt99
10-12-06, 18:21
That's the risk you take when Teddy Kennedy is your party's paragon of moral virtue.

El Perro
10-12-06, 18:30
Since when did Kennedy become the party's paragon of moral virtue? And what risk do you reference? The "risk" of having some pathetic, desperate slimeball make light of someone's death over 30 years ago? I think we can be sure Christopher Shays doesn't give a rat's ass about Mary Jo Kopechne. What he does care about is HIS rat's ass.

Hunt99
10-12-06, 19:41
Uncle Teddy came into Chris Shays' state, campaigning for Shays' opponent, claiming the moral high ground.

Rewind: Uncle Teddy drove his car off a bridge, abandoned a woman to drown, called his handlers rather than the police, and held a press conference announcing his purity.

Yeah, those sexual emails were much, much worse than anything Uncle Teddy did.;)

Daddy Rulz
10-15-06, 21:41
Probably the same mistake CNN makes when it claims Foley had sex with an underage page. Of course, 21 is underage when it's a Republican on the end of the allegation, right?They said Monica was 19 when she was 21 or 22 (I'm not sure of her age but I'm not a news service so I'm not held to the same standard) Of course Foley didn't have sex with those kids but it doesn't matter, legislation HE voted for made his actions criminal. Guess they forgot to exempt themselves from that law.

(In the interest of fairness, something not often seen in this thread, both Dems and GOP members are usually exempted from the laws they pass)

Daddy Rulz
10-15-06, 21:53
Uncle Teddy came into Chris Shays' state, campaigning for Shays' opponent, claiming the moral high ground.

Rewind: Uncle Teddy drove his car off a bridge, abandoned a woman to drown, called his handlers rather than the police, and held a press conference announcing his purity.

Yeah, those sexual emails were much, much worse than anything Uncle Teddy did.;)I would probably say that the death was worse but I doubt Ted intended to kill her, where as Congressman Foley (D Florida) sure intended to suck off some youngsters. Hard to quantify trauma here, dead person feels no trauma but her family does, little kid deals with getting let me fuck you emails and then has to come to terms with it. Not as bad as actually getting molested but it will take some therapy.

Hunt you once insinuated that I was a homosexual pedofile, are you now saying you don't think anything was terribly wrong about what Mark Foley did? It seems as if you condone his actions. Even playing the spin game of saying "yes he did this but somebody else did something worse 30 years ago" seems to me as if your trying to minimize what he did. I accept and support your right to choose what party you want to follow but has your need to have the GOP be right at all times overcome your ability to say that children need to be protected from sexual predetors?

I have no doubt that this will set off a storm and Jax I know you use this windbag for legal shit so delete this if you think I'm outta line but having somebody defend a pedofile sort of sets me off a little.

Hunt99
10-24-06, 16:31
Hunt,

You once insinuated that I was a homosexual pedofile, are you now saying you don't think anything was terribly wrong about what Mark Foley did? By your own admission you are interested in finding petite young women for anal sex. People can draw their own conclusions about that, but I find your single-minded obsession with the hershey highway, especially with "young" subjects, more than a little weird. Once in a while? Sure. But that's not quite it, is it? But hey, anyway, the world is full of weird people. So more power to you, so long as you stay above the age of consent.

As for Foley, if he's guilty of having had sex with an underage page, he ought to be locked up and have the key thrown away. At this point, he's apparently only guilty of sending naughty IMs, which while gross, probably isn't very illegal (if at all, it is illegal in the wrist-slap sense - probably about as illegal as posting on a prostitution site on the internet).

Not one single underage boy has been identified by anybody as having been seduced by him. What he does with people above the age of consent is his own business.

Hunt99
10-24-06, 16:38
James Carville, the legendary Clinton campaign adviser has coined this new political phrase. Formerly, he coined, ''It's The Economy, Stupid''. His polls indicate this issue is #1, by a considerable amount. There is much frustation that our leadersBush+Cheyney) have not sought energy independence. Carville wants the Democrats to adopt this as their defining issue. If the Democrats do this, they will also capture all the associated issues = improving the trade deficit, improving the environment and climate, and making the USA the leader in the development of alternative fuels. And of course, drive the prices of the oil complex lower, while dealing a mortal blow to terrorism and despot leaders all over the world.Papa, if the US wants energy independence, $150 a barrel oil for a couple of years would do it. People and businesses would find alternatives, and while the short-term pain would be there, for the long-term we would employ other sources of energy other than oil. But no government program is going to do it if the market forces don't make sense.

El Perro
10-24-06, 17:20
Rather than $150 a barrel oil, with the proceeds going to the oil barons, a hefty gas tax would cut consumption, provide monies for some worthwhile causes and incentivize (my armed services word of the day) corporate america to get on the alternative energy stick. Unfortunately, to this point the government is happy to blame others for the price of oil / petrol rather than take the necessary steps themselves, and take the expected heat. Though I don't know that the Dems would be any more motivated to drive up the cost of operating speedboats, SUVs, etc.

El Perro
10-24-06, 17:28
As for Daddy Rulz's fondness for drilling young spinners in the ass, well, if that makes him a possible faggot, then this board has more than a few potential fags! I ain't ashamed of having cracked a few young prunes myself, and loved it!;) Listen Daddy, when you get to town, let's have dinner. Wear your hair up and that choker I sent you.

Hunt99
10-24-06, 17:28
Rather than $150 a barrel oil, with the proceeds going to the oil barons, a hefty gas tax would cut consumption, provide monies for some worthwhile causes and incentivize (my armed services word of the day) corporate america to get on the alternative energy stick. Unfortunately, to this point the government is happy to blame others for the price of oil / petrol rather than take the necessary steps themselves, and take the expected heat. Though I don't know that the Dems would be any more motivated to drive up the cost of operating speedboats, SUVs, etc.Dogg I'll give you an example of how high-priced oil will encourage other energy sources. There's a kind of rock called oil shale, which is found in such massive quantities in the Western US that there is probably as much recoverable oil as in the entire Middle East. Except that recovery of this oil is more expensive than drilling a hole into the ground, and hence, it's not economically feasible unless oil is very expensive. Here's an article from last year which discusses it:

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,600125803,00.html

Daddy Rulz
10-25-06, 22:39
It's as if you don't want to be confused by facts. Sending sexual email or Ims to an underage is child will get you damn near as much time as having sex with them. Check your facts.

I wouldn't call it a "single minded obsession" more like something I dig. Again check your facts. My posts mention a whole spectrum of sick distorted behaviour, but not as bad as Stowe now thats one sick fuck there.

I think you just piss me off because you sort of remind me of Rush. I'm done with this, and you as well. I can't wait to read what you have to say when the House and Senate change hands this fall.

Respond as you wish I shall only fart in your general direction.


By your own admission you are interested in finding petite young women for anal sex. People can draw their own conclusions about that, but I find your single-minded obsession with the hershey highway, especially with "young" subjects, more than a little weird. Once in a while? Sure. But that's not quite it, is it? But hey, anyway, the world is full of weird people. So more power to you, so long as you stay above the age of consent.

As for Foley, if he's guilty of having had sex with an underage page, he ought to be locked up and have the key thrown away. At this point, he's apparently only guilty of sending naughty IMs, which while gross, probably isn't very illegal (if at all, it is illegal in the wrist-slap sense - probably about as illegal as posting on a prostitution site on the internet)

Not one single underage boy has been identified by anybody as having been seduced by him. What he does with people above the age of consent is his own business.

Moore
10-26-06, 01:30
My posts mention a whole spectrum of sick distorted behaviour, but not as bad as Moore now thats one sick fuck there.Where the hell did that come from?

I'm just an innocent bystander with nothing but healthy, natural urges to shag 1000 women (not children) senseless per day.

Care to substantiate your "distorted sick fuck" rant?

I won't pass judgment on you but I will say that being a pedophile is probably the only unforgivable crime.

BadMan
10-26-06, 01:52
Ok now lets call a spade a spade, Foley is s pretty sick mother fucker, I don't personaly have a thing against gay dudes but being a sexual predator is bad enough but being a homosexual predator is WAY too much. He is not going to be an elected official any longer. And if he did something wrong to any underage kids he should pay for it. Should the democrats try to lynch the republicans for this? NO, if some high ranking republicans were somehow complicite in any of this then, if they broke the law, they should be held accountable, if they did something immoral but didnt break the law, the voters should decide. I think this should teach everyone that you can stand up for your party all you want, but if someone in your party does something wrong you should not protect or excuse them, especially when it deals with little kids. That goes for democrats and republicans, I mean the whole kennedy clan has been a real kick in the pants for the democrats credibility. But whatever. And Moore I think Daddy Rulz was just joking, though I did hear a rumor about dancing shaved midgets, but thats another thread.

Badboy

Hunt99
10-26-06, 11:11
I guess if I had the choice I'd rather compared to a radio talk show host, worth $300 million, counselor to presidents, dating Daryn Kagan, and formerly addicted to back pain medication, rather than be an old guy who is fixated on anal sex with very petite and very young subjects, pinching every last penny because I'm broke, retired from being an airline flight attendant, and denying all the time that I'm gay.

Not much of a choice, really.

And as for that Moore guy, he's a lot of things, but one of them I can state from personal observation is that he's definitely heterosexual, with a decent taste for women (not young girls, or in a certain poster's taste, boys).

Daddy Rulz
10-26-06, 18:41
Moore I humbly apologize, I have a running gag with Stowe for being a sick fuck and I accidently typed your name. I'm really sorry. Stowe however is one sick fuck.


Where the hell did that come from?

I'm just an innocent bystander with nothing but healthy, natural urges to shag 1000 women (not children) senseless per day.

Care to substantiate your "distorted sick fuck" rant?

I won't pass judgment on you but I will say that being a pedophile is probably the only unforgivable crime.

Daddy Rulz
10-26-06, 18:51
Hunt I'm neither old, nor a homosexual. I didn't retire from an airline, I quit. I wasn't a flight attendant though I did fuck a few. I worked the ramp and customer service for an airline, mostly the ramp which is a blue collar job. I am telling you that if I ever meet you face to face we will have the kind of discussion that you would expect from an ignorant blue collar worker that you you have now twice called a homosexual. This is not a threat, we are just going to have a very friendly chat about manners. If you don't desire this conversation I would suggest on your very infrequant trips to BsAs that you avoid me. I would also suggest that you wait to post about your experiances until after you get back in the EEUU because if I know your in BsAs when I'm there I will be looking for you to give you this lesson. Write what you wish but I would take this pretty seriously.

Jackson again, I know this guy does stuff for you but thats twice now He's insulted me. I know I've insulted him as well and I would offer him the same satisfaction that I will take if I see him. He expects to write this crap without being accountable, I think I'll hold him accountable.


I guess if I had the choice I'd rather compared to a radio talk show host, worth $300 million, counselor to presidents, dating Daryn Kagan, and formerly addicted to back pain medication, rather than be an old guy who is fixated on anal sex with very petite and very young subjects, pinching every last penny because I'm broke, retired from being an airline flight attendant, and denying all the time that I'm gay.

Not much of a choice, really.

And as for that Moore guy, he's a lot of things, but one of them I can state from personal observation is that he's definitely heterosexual, with a decent taste for women (not young girls, or in a certain poster's taste, boys)

Hunt99
10-26-06, 23:50
Oh, so you come into a thread, begin to insult me, and now you go crying to Jackson to "make him stop it!" Listen, petunia, if you can't take it, don't start it. And I have to tell you, I am scared, oh so scared, by your threats, which I am sure are as empty as your wallet.

You can kiss my rosy red Irish ass, sunflower. Of course my wrinkled arse is about 25 years older than the young boys' asses you prefer, but you can pucker up, nonetheless.


I am telling you that if I ever meet you face to face we will have the kind of discussion that you would expect from an ignorant blue collar worker that you you have now twice called a homosexual. This is not a threat, we are just going to have a very friendly chat about manners. If you don't desire this conversation I would suggest on your very infrequant trips to BsAs that you avoid me. I would also suggest that you wait to post about your experiances until after you get back in the EEUU because if I know your in BsAs when I'm there I will be looking for you to give you this lesson. Write what you wish but I would take this pretty seriously.

Jackson again, I know this guy does stuff for you but thats twice now He's insulted me. I know I've insulted him as well and I would offer him the same satisfaction that I will take if I see him. He expects to write this crap without being accountable, I think I'll hold him accountable.

Jackpot
10-27-06, 00:14
Maybe we can have an American style Dustup at the Alamo.

And 100 peso prize for the winner.

What do you all think?

Jackpot

Stowe
10-27-06, 00:48
Hey MF,

You haven't been seen or heard from for months and now you post that I am a sick fuck? I ain't half the sick fuck that you are (but I am catching up!

Good to see ya posting more DR and keep up the fight.

Hopefully, you will be there in April when I am there again.

Suerte.

Stowe

Oh and by the way, regarding the pissing or hitting contest, I'll put $100 US on Daddy!

Hunt99
10-27-06, 19:52
I am just so frightened, I am beside myself with fear. Ooooh, I don't know what I'm gonna do. Certainly I can't ever visit Buenos Aires again! :(

Sunflower, you are too tough for me. From the looks of your photo below, you are one of those tough leather types.


Like most spinmiesters you just make up facts to fit your needs. Let me give you a reality check.

I never ran to Jackson for help, I don't need help with you because your just a tired old blowhard. I was appologising to Jackson for writing what I wrote.

With luck you will go your entire life without encountering me. However if you do you will have a different tone after. There is a good reason I will not tolerate being called the things you call me and I will explain them to you during our conversation. Anybody who knows me knows I'm a reasonable man, you can avoid this conversation by appologising and never calling me a pedophile again. If you don't I will maim you, believe me this is no idle threat. You will bear the scars of this beating for the rest of your life.

For my part if I have somewho offended you before the first time you insinuated I fucked young boys I offer my appologies. If you can tell me what the offence was, I will appologise in this open forum as I have done in the past to others for the specific offence.

You may call me ignorant, un educated, working class, a ***** monger, an asshole damn near any slur will do because thy probably apply but you may not freely call me a pedophile.

I hope your taking this seriously because you are in jepordy.

Stowe if you lived to be 200 years old, and dedicated everyday of your life to debauchery you still wouldn't be half as sick as I am. I'll be there in April.

Jackpot you fucker, how the hell are you.

Daddy:

Daddy Rulz
10-27-06, 21:19
I've had my say. I'm going to delete all my posts on this issue. I've offered you peace, and a chance. I suggest you do what you must to avoid me.

Hunt99
10-28-06, 10:06
I've had my say. I'm going to delete all my posts on this issue. I've offered you peace, and a chance. I suggest you do what you must to avoid me.Since you're a little short guy, it would be kind of hard to do this if anybody is around. Are you going to wear high heels so your head pokes up from the crowd around you? I am worried for my safety, you know, so I want to be able to see you coming.

Of course if you put your heels on, you'd better shave those legs too.