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Aznights
10-11-05, 12:59
Ok everyone I am a newbie here to this site and to Argentina as well. I am not really interested in the Pro action as I would not pay $100 USD for any women. I was wondering about finding a normal girlfriend and where might be the best places for this in BA. I have heard that there are some Irish Pubs and wondering if these were the best places to meet a fine Argentine girl. Your thoughts please. I will be there the beginning of Nov. For about 20 days and don't have a clue.

Daddy Rulz
10-11-05, 14:25
My experiance with Argentinian women is that they are very friendly and approachable. However at the same time they are reluctant to be somebody's vacation squeeze. If you were going to be living there no problem. If you speak Spanish I would say approach anybody you meet, waitresses, clerks in stores etc. Ask them to dinner and a movie and see how it goes.

Capt Dave
10-11-05, 16:34
Az.

Lookit here, put your head on straight. You're going to be here 20 days and expect to find a girlfriend because "I would not pay U.S. $100 for any women."

Please consider:

1) No "normal" woman (especially here) wants a boyfriend for 20 days, especially if you don't speak enough spanish to be amusing, without expecting to be compensated.

And, BTW, "fine Argentine girls" don't go to bars, especially unescorted, and don't want a goofy foreign boyfriend (nor would there familys allow it) anyway.

2) You will spend far more then $100 in gifts, meals, and other penalties of "normalcy"

3) "Professional" girls here are as often as not "regular" girls who have discovered they can't make a living, much less support their child (or children) by working at a job, even if there was one which there isn't.

As for the Irish pubs, last Sunday 3 of the ladies who were here were planning on going to Kilkenny that evening. You will meet them there, consider them "normal" and still wind up paying them, cluelessly thinking that they are not "pros".

Try amigos.com if you want to meet a non-pro, and be advised that even there you are going to run into the problems discribed above!

Of course, this is just my opinion, YMMV (but I don't think so!)

David.


Ok everyone I am a newbie here to this site and to Argentina as well. I am not really interested in the Pro action as I would not pay $100 USD for any women. I was wondering about finding a normal girlfriend and where might be the best places for this in BA. I have heard that there are some Irish Pubs and wondering if these were the best places to meet a fine Argentine girl. Your thoughts please. I will be there the beginning of Nov. For about 20 days and don't have a clue.

ColdBeer
10-11-05, 16:36
I was at KK a year ago. I am a middle aged Gringo. Early in the evening, great beer and conversation. Late at night the place was packed and I had a few local women who spoke decent English hitting on me (a new experience for me) took one back to the hotel for a very hot night. Never asked for money - gave her some cash ($25 US) And told her to buy something nice for herself. She was happy and left her phone number. I left BA the following day, so never followed up.

CB

OslersVoice
10-11-05, 16:48
Scary how that spell correction program totally fucks up the point someone is trying to make!

Hi OslersVoice,

It's not a spell correction program, it's a grammer correction script.

In your case, you wrote a single "U" all by itself, and because there's no word in the English language spelled "U", the script identified it as chat-room style writing and changed it to the word "you".

The solution is simple: Please refer to the United States as "USA" or "US", without an isolated letter "U".

In additon, you can always edit your reports as you many see fit immediately after you post them. The script does not run when saving an edited report, only on the initial upload.

Thanks,

Jackson

Moore
10-11-05, 17:21
1) No "normal" woman (especially here) wants a boyfriend for 20 days, especially if you don't speak enough spanish to be amusing, without expecting to be compensated.

And, BTW, "fine Argentine girls" don't go to bars, especially unescorted, and don't want a goofy foreign boyfriend (nor would there familys allow it) anyway.I agree, based on experience, that its generally harder to pick up amatuers when you're only visiting. Even slutty women seem to often want at least the illusion of something more than a one-night or one-week stand. There are exceptions of course.

Capt Dave, you are posting incorrect information about "fine Argentine girls". They go to regular bars by the thousands, most of the time in large groups and unescorted by men. One of the first thing one notices when visiting regular Argentine bars / boliches / clubs is that the girl:guy ratio is often about 70:30. Note - Kilkenney is not a regular bar (it was a few years ago) It is often filled with rough pros.

An Argentine girl and / or her family would reject a foreign boyriend? Are you sure you're living in the Republic of Argentina? I've had several local gfs (they like gringos regardless of any political differences) and their families were thrilled with their daughter's dating a yanqui. Not that most Argentine girls give a shit about what their families might think about their boyfriend. Girls here are very liberated sexually and socially. Amigos. Com - I'm assuming thats a dating service? Who in the hell would need that in this country!

Right on, Daddy Rulz. Chat up any chica you are attracted to no matter where you are. You will be successful sometimes (alot more times than in the USA)

Monger514
10-11-05, 17:41
Although obviously there are exceptions and success stories, IN GENERAL non-pros in South America are going to be hesitant to get involved with a gringo who is only here for a short stay. Never say never, but you could certainly spend a lot of time (i. e. your entire stay) trying to hunt up a relationship with an amateur and not get anywhere. And it's still going to cost something.

(Edit: fixed capitalization of id est)

Capt Dave
10-11-05, 18:59
Capt Dave, you are posting incorrect information about "fine Argentine girls". They go to regular bars by the thousands, most of the time in large groups and unescorted by men. One of the first thing one notices when visiting regular Argentine bars / boliches / clubs is that the girl:guy ratio is often about 70:30. Note - Kilkenney is not a regular bar (it was a few years ago) It is often filled with rough pros. This depends on your definition of "fine". If you mean "fine" as in "pretty" then you are right, if you mean "fine" as in "upper class" I'll stick by my statements.




An Argentine girl and / or her family would reject a foreign boyriend? Are you sure you're living in the Republic of Argentina? I've had several local gfs (they like gringos regardless of any political differences) and their families were thrilled with their daughter's dating a yanqui. Not that most Argentine girls give a shit about what their families might think about their boyfriend. Again, this depends on whether you are talking about working class girls or upper class girls. To many if not most upper class families, not only would a gringo not do, but even an Argentine with the wrong name won't do (BTW, it's illegal to change your name in this country - what does that tell you?)

All this begs the point however, that while you can certainly find female company in 20 days in BsAs, the idea that you don't have to pay is, IMHO, unrealistic and slightly juvenile. However, I suppose there are sillier hobbies, and depending on your criterion for success (e.g. "free" pussy) you can probably count on some degree of acomplishment.

David

Out for Flesh
10-11-05, 20:14
Ok everyone I am a newbie here to this site and to Argentina as well. I am not really interested in the Pro action as I would not pay you. S. $100 for any women. I was wondering about finding a normal girlfriend and where might be the best places for this in BA. I have heard that there are some Irish Pubs and wondering if these were the best places to meet a fine Argentine girl. Your thoughts please. I will be there the beginning of Nov. For about 20 days and don't have a clue.Aznights,

Go to regular bars. If you haven't found a girl that corresponds your desires by, say, 3AM, go to a pro place and make your choice.

(That's, at least, my pragmatic view of trying to use my time as effectively as possible)

Moore
10-12-05, 01:59
Capt Dave,

Based on your comments about non-pros, I'm pretty sure that your posts are solely based on theory. Mine are based on fairly vast experience. Not a single time in 5 years here have I encountered, in practice, the theories you post about.

"Fine" (your word) girls to me are pretty, sexy, young, and reasonably educated and fun to hang out with.

I'm mostly class-blind here in Argentina. Ive dated, and 95% of the time nailed, local girls from Avellaneda, Lanus, Caballito, Flores, Palermo, Belgrano, San Isidro, etc. Which covers the working class to middle class to upper class spectrum.

A gringo "wouldnt do" for an upper class family here? A true Argentine upper class family here would prefer a gringo, especially a Brit. Thats why they take English names and teach their children Scottish folklore and shit.

You have no idea what you're talking about!

Daddy Rulz
10-12-05, 03:16
Most Argentine guys treat women like shit. I think it's because there are soooooooooooo many hot young thin pretty girls here, not like sex prison where most of them carry an extra 20 pounds or more. Here beauty is much more than not being fat. In addition after the crisis most of the young men of means (maybe not most but a lot) moved to Europe where there would be more opportunity. I think that explains the 70;30 ratio in bars. In addition there is a fine tradition in Argentina where younger girls are attracted to older men because they know how to treat a lady.

With all of this said, I still think in 20 days your going to have a hard time finding a temporary girlfriend. You might get lucky if your charming, girls here are very liberated sexually, but I wouldn't count on it. Also you will spend about the same amount on dinners and movies before you get play. In Argentina as well as sex prison there is no such thing as free pussy, you either pay directly or indirectly. Now the difference will be if you make it with a non pro the sex will be amazing, Catholic guilt requires that they feel much more "love" for you before they have sex.

Thomaso276
10-12-05, 08:35
I love these posts when someone says "I am coming to BA for a vacation and looking for a normal / regular girl, where can I go?"

Go to another board.

Hunt99
10-12-05, 11:03
I love these posts when someone says "I am coming to BA for a vacation and looking for a normal / regular girl, where can I go?"

Go to another board.ROFLMAO! Good one, Thomaso!

ColdBeer
10-12-05, 16:21
Hmmmm. Based on the above posts, it appears that I most likely ran into working girls at the KK. That makes a lot more sense than believing girls who look like this were actually hitting on me with no commercial interest.

By the way - that is OK with me. I don't need an ego boost, just a good romp. And I will be there next week for a few pints of Kilkenny. At the Kilkenny.

No doubt one can hire a girlfriend for the week or 3. Auditioning them would be fun. Certainly affordable given the US prices for the trade these days and a LOT MORE REWARDING.

Did I mention that I love Buenos Aires?

CB

Moore
10-12-05, 17:51
I love these posts when someone says "I am coming to BA for a vacation and looking for a normal / regular girl, where can I go?"

Go to another board.You may have noticed that there are more than a few threads on this board that have nothing to do with P4P. P4P is outstanding here as we all know. But I believe that a thread for people also interested in some non-pro action deserves a spot at least as much the "American Politics" thread does.

Geo Eye
10-12-05, 19:09
Hey aznight, it does not make sense to go to argentina and look for a.

Girlfriend for just a 3week visit. It only makes sense if you are going to.

Live there. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ck out the working girls, they are.

Everywhere you turn, GIRLFRIEND, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING.

AB0UT. Variety is what every man wants, and in ba. You can have.

3 to 4 diffrent ones everyday.

THIS IS WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT, GIRLFRIEND? UNLESS SHE LIKE.

OTHER GIRLS AND WILL BRING THEM TO YOU, THEN GO FOR IT.

FELLOW DOG

Aznights
10-26-05, 12:49
You guys are making alot of good points. I am glad that I guess Jackson added this group even if some guys don't like it. When it comes to women we all pay in one way or the other but my point is the mere fact of paying that high of a price for the act is not me. For those that have been to Thailand or the Philippines you can understand what I mean. I would never tell them how long I am there for so I don't think that would be an issue. I will check out Kilkenny and the Shamrock.

Ampfofu
10-26-05, 15:36
Ok everyone I am a newbie here to this site and to Argentina as well. I am not really interested in the Pro action as I would not pay you. S. $100 for any women. I was wondering about finding a normal girlfriend and where might be the best places for this in BA. I have heard that there are some Irish Pubs and wondering if these were the best places to meet a fine Argentine girl. Your thoughts please. I will be there the beginning of Nov. For about 20 days and don't have a clue.I understand what you are talking about. I prefer a good woman and their is no woman as good as a Argentine woman. I have met many nice women and still keep in touch with them all. Don't get me wrong, Since I am single I still like to mingle with some no strings attatched fun here and there and for that I have Sabrina, the hottest girl in BA. But for regular portenoa, which will fill you with more love than you know will not be so difficult once you get past the fact you are on VACATION and these girls are gust vacation girls until you decide to move to BS. Portenos have no intentions on moving to USA. Heck they know BS is the place.

To find many good women, look for them in shopping malls, places they work legitimate jobs. I went into a clothing store with my best friend (she is a porteno) and I met a woman that was amazing, I got her number with no problem and we went out a few nights later. It is that easy.

Marak5
10-27-05, 00:56
You guys are making alot of good points. I am glad that I guess Jackson added this group even if some guys don't like it. When it comes to women we all pay in one way or the other but my point is the mere fact of paying that high of a price for the act is not me. For those that have been to Thailand or the Philippines you can understand what I mean. I would never tell them how long I am there for so I don't think that would be an issue. I will check out Kilkenny and the Shamrock.Aznights,

Personally I am happy to see this forum. I am getting a little burnt out with the pro scene down there so I plan to try and branch out a little bit next time.

Prosal
10-31-05, 17:46
Moore,

Would you mind to post, as you did in the MDP thread, about your favorite non-pro middle / upper class spots in BA?

I did recently the same thing on the ISG (where I'm senior member) in the Sao Paulo section if you're interested. But Brasil is becoming a pricey destination with the current exchange rates, and I'm very seriously thinking about Argentina (BA / MDP / Cordoba) for some six weeks vacations in Jan/Feb.

Thanks.

Pro

Aznights
10-31-05, 21:51
Anyone been to these pubs recently that could comment on girl to guy ratio or if they are worthwhile in finding someone of interest. Other places of interest could be noted as well. I will be there this Friday for the first time if anyone would like to have a beer on the weekend.

Hobby Fan
10-31-05, 22:44
Kilkenny is a good bar on Reconquista and Marcelo Alvear in Microcentro. It is a large, fun, loud Irish style bar. Recently it has been a hangout for "working girls" as well as regular folks, and I think that the working girls is who you are most likely to meet unless your Spanish and luck are great. Shamrock is a very popular regular bar. Get there early or it will be so crowded you can hardly get in the door. It is in Barrio Norte.

MCSE
11-01-05, 05:06
First of all, creamfields it's the hottest spot in BA.

One time a year, creamfields brings the most popular International DJ's to perform in BA.

Paul Oakenfold, Tenaglia, the Argentino Cattaneo, DJ Vibe, Infusion and many others will perform live at Cream next November 12th.

For non pro action and some hot girls, since the basement has been closed sharmrock is not what it used to be:

There is a hard issue to face regarding non pro action, after the fire of Cromagnon.

I've ordered the places by the weekdays when I found them most interesting. This doesn't necessarily mean that they're boring or even closed on all other days Also, places that are open most of the week get multiple entries.

Above all of this, I would like to reccomend not to missing Soul Cafe over Baez St and check out the recently opened Kandi, 70's styled pub, also on Baez St, but on this one, I think that something failed, no real action inside (may be because they wanted to serve more dinners than drinks) but I would choose a real restaurant intstead.

Mondays seem to be quite dead.

Tuesday.

Jobs.

La Cigale.

+160's (at Bahrain)

Wednesday (wednesdays choices are limited, and some of the places that are open lack the casual yet intense ambiance of the normal Buenos Aires nightlife)

Tequila.

Vodoo.

Warhols.

Asia de Cuba.

Club Caix.

Museum.

Thursday.

Barfly.

Club 69 (also known as Niceto Club)

Jah Bar.

Friday.

The Roxy.

Pacha / Clubland.

El Living.

Bwat.

LaCity.

Mint.

Rumi.

Saturday.

Big One.

La Cigale.

Opera Bay.

Club Araoz.

Sunday I currently don't know any good spot to go to for dancing late on Sundays. La Diosa used to be open, but that has changed.

Holidays Most of the major Friday and Saturday places open also on nights before public holidays. E. G. The Big One and the Mint are even pleasantly uncrowded on such occasions.

If you guys are not gay you should avoid Amerika and Palermo's Shangay (cleaver name anyway, see: shan-gay)

You can find locations and phone # at http://www.barts.com.ar/barts/nitelife.php
http://www.creamfieldsba.com

Prosal
11-02-05, 09:55
Great list MCSE.

Many argentinas are crazy about Brasil and brasilian music : is there a 'brasilian' bar or disco, with a good party atmosphere, in BA?

Thanks.

MCSE
11-02-05, 15:14
Great list MCSE.

Many argentinas are crazy about Brasil and brasilian music: is there a 'brasilian' bar or disco, with a good party atmosphere, in BA?

Thanks.I've just seen one maybe "Axe" rithyms is your question for? I don't remember the name but used to be on sarmiento near callao. Axe dancers are so energic. I've met one. Anyway, it's for a specific target, since was more popular in the late 90's

Prosal
11-04-05, 08:03
MCSE.

Thanks for the info. I put this place on my list.

I was not specially thinking about axe, but about MPB, forro, carioca funk or brasilian rock, all things that you hear in Sao Paulo clubs. I thought that good brasilian music (personnaly I consider axe as crap) was popular in BA.

Cheers

MCSE
11-04-05, 13:47
Brazilian Rock like paralamas (neat band) it's pretty hard to hear on radio in BA. I guess there is more good Brazilian music on clubs, pubs in Miami rather than in BA. There are more paulistas exapts in Miami and tourists in Valle Nevado (chile) than in BA.

Mojokpr
11-06-05, 05:26
Maluca Beleza may still be on Sarmiento near Callao, don't know for sure as I haven't been there in 2 years or so. Lots of Brazilian types there, samba, axe, even some lambada, or so I was told. Not a place for mpb or bossa nova, a much younger crowd.

Marak5
11-11-05, 04:26
First of all, creamfields it's the hottest spot in BA.

One time a year, creamfields brings the most popular International DJ's to perform in BA.

Paul Oakenfold, Tenaglia, the Argentino Cattaneo, DJ Vibe, Infusion and many others will perform live at Cream next November 12th.

For non pro action and some hot girls, since the basement has been closed sharmrock is not what it used to be:

There is a hard issue to face regarding non pro action, after the fire of Cromagnon.

I've ordered the places by the weekdays when I found them most interesting. This doesn't necessarily mean that they're boring or even closed on all other days Also, places that are open most of the week get multiple entries.

Above all of this, I would like to reccomend not to missing Soul Cafe over Baez St and check out the recently opened Kandi, 70's styled pub, also on Baez St, but on this one, I think that something failed, no real action inside (may be because they wanted to serve more dinners than drinks) but I would choose a real restaurant intstead.

Mondays seem to be quite dead.

Tuesday.

Jobs.

La Cigale.

+160's (at Bahrain)

Wednesday (wednesdays choices are limited, and some of the places that are open lack the casual yet intense ambiance of the normal Buenos Aires nightlife)

Tequila.

Vodoo.

Warhols.

Asia de Cuba.

Club Caix.

Museum.

Thursday.

Barfly.

Club 69 (also known as Niceto Club)

Jah Bar.

Friday.

The Roxy.

Pacha / Clubland.

El Living.

Bwat.

LaCity.

Mint.

Rumi.

Saturday.

Big One.

La Cigale.

Opera Bay.

Club Araoz.

Sunday I currently don't know any good spot to go to for dancing late on Sundays. La Diosa used to be open, but that has changed.

Holidays Most of the major Friday and Saturday places open also on nights before public holidays. E. G. The Big One and the Mint are even pleasantly uncrowded on such occasions.

If you guys are not gay you should avoid Amerika and Palermo's Shangay (cleaver name anyway, see: shan-gay)

You can find locations and phone # at http://www.barts.com.ar/barts/nitelife.php
http://www.creamfieldsba.com

dude, no need to plagiarize. Unless you are that werner guy from England who wrote that list, why pass it off as your own work?

The original website with all this info, and with half of the commentary that this mcse guy is just ripping off, is located at..

http://www.almesberger.net/fun/night.html

MCSE
11-11-05, 06:08
Actually a guy from another forum sent me the original article by email and I've found it very interesting since I've been researching myself for clubs back in 2003 to develop a business plan, for some american investors. I've agreed with some things and with some others I did not, so I've asked for permission to edit it my way and for publish it on my website to the author, wich has been grant by the guy who sent me the article implicitly claiming was his own article.

My ORIGINAL Business Plan it's at http://www.barts.com.ar/barts/biz_plan.php and I have a lot of back-up to proof it as videos, surveys, etc.

Anyway, I've seen the website you posted but I cannot be sure yet on who owns the copyrights nor who is the original author.

However, now the only matter is Creamfields 2005, I wish I make a Video on the inside but if they don't leave and come back will be a pain keep the camcorder with me all night long.

Best Regards.

Marak5
11-11-05, 06:57
What do you mean you cannot be sure who is the original author? It's obvious that it was writting by this werner person as it says it explicity on the site that I posted.

I have actually corresponded with him in the past so I doubt he would care if you'd use it or not. The problem is that I really doubt he granted you permission to 1) use it and 2) pass it off as your own work here and on your other website.

His email is listed on the site I posted and he has always answered me within 12 hours. If you don't care to email him and ask, I will and we'll see what he says.

MCSE
11-11-05, 16:41
----- Original Message -----

From: William E!

To: Mosaic Eye4U Models.

Sent: Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 17:40

Subject: Buenos Aires NightLife.

> Dear Rugero:

> Firstly I would like to congratulate you on your.

> fantastic website. I have had to search for a lot of.

> BA bars, clubs etc and I can confidently say that your.

> site is the most thorough and informative that I have.

> come across. Well done. I have just chanced upon your.

> website and I am most impressed with your work. The.

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> excellent, well laid out, very easy to navigate.

> I would like to remind you that this enquiry resulted.

> from the article you wrote to the forum, and therefore.

> you have the power to change anything you desire.

> But please do not include my contact, I don't want.

> spam in my mailbox, Frequently Asked Questions, etc.

>

>



Then I really don't care about this and that and little girl games.

I trust and I'll keep on trusting on people, The info I've posted is factual and accurated. The opinions on the best places to go for each day of the week are based on common sense. Phone #'s are real. And as I've said I have enough resources, original contents and research done. Check out http://www.barts.com.ar and make yourself an opinion. For anyone who needs more info please PM me.

MCSE
11-14-05, 12:09
Great Creamfields November 12nd grouped about 50k people in Costanera, next to puerto madero.

Great party and no incidents (but the typical) Many DJ's performed live and party was great.

Creamfields it's a dance festival.

As well as known in Andalucia (Spain) Liverpool (UK) Moscow, Curitiba (Brazil)

Santiago de Chile, and DF Mexico Next November 19.

The party was great, gorgeous girls, the place was too crowded anyway, so, everything was hard; having a speed vodka (ar$7) or water 300ml bottle (ar$4) to pee, etc. I've arrived about 11:30 PM but the festival began at 3:00 PM. I've leaved about 7:30 AM but inside remained a lot of funny and nice people.

I can't describe this better a couple of videos does in http://www.barts.com.ar/barts/videos.php

For the internet police officer Mr. Marak5, you can also tell Mr. Armin Van Bureen I've used some remixes to edit the videos.

DjFourMoney
11-16-05, 05:34
Great Infomation.

Aznights:

Don't listen to anybody that tell you is a waste of time, its not.

If you have skillz, you can get the job done and seal the deal. Even for a short stay. Nobody said you couldn't remain in contact with the girl after you left right?

Most likely very few of the regular posters have been to a dance club lately. Kilkenny doesnt sound like it. It does like a typical bar where people sit around, drink alot and pretend to like each other.

In fact, I see alot of spirits consumed here. I'm glad I don't drink, doesn't cloud my judgement.

Get your boogie on, mack to a freak in the mall, have fun!

MarcoMan
11-18-05, 06:53
If some one are intersting to hit the night on normal club, give me a message or too patata chips for this week end and the week end of 2 December

Volpone
11-21-05, 16:55
I stayed about 3 months in Lima and I had a great time with non-pros.

I was going out with 2 girlfriends at the same time there and I also met other girls very easily thanks to the web.

What about the comparaison between be. A. And Lima?

I am less than 40 years old.

It would be interesting to read your point of vue, especially those, who know these two cities or some other cities in S. America.

DjFourMoney
11-22-05, 06:06
I stayed about 3 months in Lima and I had a great time with non-pros.

I was going out with 2 girlfriends at the same time there and I also met other girls very easily thanks to the web.

What about the comparaison between be. A. And Lima?

I am less than 40 years old.

It would be interesting to read your point of vue, especially those, who know these two cities or some other cities in S. America.I'm 35.

Quiet as kept, I'm using some internet connections for non-pro action. That will hopfully keep me busy with sight seeing and stuff like that some of the days so I'm not spending it under some chica in an apartment 24/7.

I might try that if I were you.

Being a brotha I was able to narrow it down to chicas I know would at least want to meet me if they found me attractive and interesting.

Any chicas seeking Americans for whatever know where to look and place ads.

Edit -

Ooops, thought I had a site for you to checkout but its full of Columbians...lol

Volpone
11-26-05, 17:37
Thanks a lot for your answer DJFourMoney.

Yes I will be interesting in knowing the website to meet many Colombians girls. I already know one www.cybercupido.com

However I would be interesting in knowing another one as I also plan to go 1 day to Colombia.

So I think thanks to the web, it's possible to choose the non-pros, that I would have lots of chances to go out with them.

Of course I still think that Bogota or any cities in Colombia or Lima or Quito or Caracas or Panama would be much better than be. A. To meet non-pros.

Andres
11-26-05, 19:40
Aznights:

I second the views of the other fellow mongers: Forget about getting a "girlfriend" if you intend to stay 20 days.

However, you may date non-pros outside the "girlfriend" frame. Among many ways to do so, I find very useful some Argentine dating sites. I used 2 of them, which let me score 3-4 times during my visits to BA (15-day average) between 2000 and 2003.

- www.cupido.net (now is paid, it used to be free)
- www.ciudad.com.ar ("Te Busco" section, one of them is free and the other is premium)
- www.solitarios.com (paid)
- www.terra.com.ar ("Busca tu Pareja" section)
- www.contactossex.com (more semi-pro style)
- http://ussp.match.com (paid)

As Capt Dave said, you pay in some way or another. Even if you don't spend much money (let's say, ar$ 40 for 2 people dinner) if they like you, they will absorb your time with phone calls and annoy you with lenghtly conversations about their own problems and past issues. It's not like just running happily, hand-by-hand on a beach during sunset.

Hope this helps.

Andres.


Ok everyone I am a newbie here to this site and to Argentina as well. I am not really interested in the Pro action as I would not pay you. S. $100 for any women. I was wondering about finding a normal girlfriend and where might be the best places for this in BA. I have heard that there are some Irish Pubs and wondering if these were the best places to meet a fine Argentine girl. Your thoughts please. I will be there the beginning of Nov. For about 20 days and don't have a clue.

Andres
11-26-05, 19:44
"Maluco Beleza" - 1600s of Sarmiento St (between Rodriguez Peña St. And Montevideo St.

Wednesday used to be the samba night. I had a great feijoada dinner there.

Hope this helps,

Andres.


Great list MCSE.

Many argentinas are crazy about Brasil and brasilian music: is there a 'brasilian' bar or disco, with a good party atmosphere, in BA?

Thanks.

DjFourMoney
11-26-05, 20:46
www.latinamericancupid.com

I joined this, clicked on more than a few women, but I haven't gotten any interest back yet save for a 37yr old Columbian with no picture.

As I said before, being a black man I can narrow it down quite a bit, by using interracial personal ad sites. The pickings are kinda slim on one of the more popular sites, so its not looking great but we'll see. I won't be coming down for several months so I have plenty of time to set something up.

Good Luck.

DjFourMoney
11-26-05, 21:59
Thanks a lot for your answer DJFourMoney.

Yes I will be interesting in knowing the website to meet many Colombians girls. I already know one www.cybercupido.com

However I would be interesting in knowing another one as I also plan to go 1 day to Colombia.

So I think thanks to the web, it's possible to choose the non-pros, that I would have lots of chances to go out with them.

Of course I still think that Bogota or any cities in Colombia or Lima or Quito or Caracas or Panama would be much better than be. A. To meet non-pros.Like I said in my other post, it seems Latin America while it might be good for mongering, not much of anything else in terms of even STR, but you can't judge it without being there.

For me personally I know my best bets are Germany, The Netherlands and Sweden. My father and some transplanted Germanys and Sweds now living in LA confirm that its a very furtile area for LTR's with American Black Men.

But I still want to give South America a shot first.

Volpone
11-27-05, 12:46
Thanks a lot Andres and DjFourMoney for your websites and your infos.

Yes I will stay more than 20 days in be. A, but it will be only next year.

What is great in be. A. Is that it's easy and quite cheap to rent a furnished studio or small apartments for one month. Around 500 dollars a month, what is exactly the same price as in Lima.

Party BMW
11-27-05, 15:33
Guys.

Most posts in this thread are about how to find one, but what if you do find one.

Lets get some posts about what to do if you have a girlfriend in Buenos Aires. I'm not talking about fiance visas or the like, but real issues with these girls in long distance relationships. Is it possible to be a tourist and have a girlfriend in Argentina?

Its very hard. I can recount several experiences with friends of mine and myself.

First problem is the trips. How many times can you go and with what frequency. I'm currently going every 6 to 7 weeks.

Second problem is the phone calls. If its to a land line, a phone card can be cheap at.01 a minute but to a cell its.25 a minute. Talking over an hour a day is going to be expensive.

Third problem lots of money.

So, feel free to comment

Daddy Rulz
11-27-05, 19:40
Guys.

Most posts in this thread are about how to find one, but what if you do find one.

Lets get some posts about what to do if you have a girlfriend in Buenos Aires. I'm not talking about fiance visas or the like, but real issues with these girls in long distance relationships. Is it possible to be a tourist and have a girlfriend in Argentina?

Its very hard. I can recount several experiences with friends of mine and myself.

First problem is the trips. How many times can you go and with what frequency. I'm currently going every 6 to 7 weeks.

Second problem is the phone calls. If its to a land line, a phone card can be cheap at.01 a minute but to a cell its.25 a minute. Talking over an hour a day is going to be expensive.

Third problem lots of money.

So, feel free to commentI've been involved with a Portena now for over a year and will be moving there. Vonnage isn't bad.05 a minute. I do work for an airline however so the travel isn't prohibitive.

Don't know the money problems your having. I got her a visa bucks card from Wakovia and put 40 bucks a month on it. (No their are no others shes not a pro and never been on the program) She makes her living as an artist and I wanted a way to get her some money in case she didn't sell for awhile.

I can't imagine ever being involved with a Gringa again, I've never been treated as well before in my life. I don't know your girl but mine has been worth all the difficulties.

Best of luck.

Savoy
11-27-05, 20:45
DR,

Just a friendly suggestion; the best option for phone calls seems to be Skype which costs.02/ min or you can get a Skypein # for your girl friend with your area code which will enable her to recieve your local calls on her computer through skype.

Thanks

Daddy Rulz
11-27-05, 21:30
DR.

Just a friendly suggestion; the best option for phone calls seems to be Skype which costs.02/ min or you can get a Skypein # for your girl friend with your area code which will enable her to recieve your local calls on her computer through skype.

ThanksThey use this and are happy, I know nothing though so can't really recomend. I know he thinks it's great.

DjFourMoney
11-28-05, 01:39
As I said on the ISG suggestion board, there is alot of non-pro action request that should warrant another forum over on that site just to keep the post that muck up the mongering reporting.

I think its a product of our younger age. I'm 35 but I can easily pass for 25 and I have no desire to dovote my entire life just to mongering when I still have the desire to have a happy LTR and all the fun and painful things associated with it.

That is my ulimate goal, but that doesn't I have to sit her not being sexually active just because I'm not dating anybody specifically.

I'll do my best to report on my findings in BsA and I'll be getting my boogie on.

Party BMW
11-28-05, 11:48
I've been involved with a Portena now for over a year and will be moving there. Vonnage isn't bad.05 a minute. I do work for an airline however so the travel isn't prohibitive.

Don't know the money problems your having. I got her a visa bucks card from Wakovia and put 40 bucks a month on it. (No their are no others shes not a pro and never been on the program) She makes her living as an artist and I wanted a way to get her some money in case she didn't sell for awhile.

I can't imagine ever being involved with a Gringa again, I've never been treated as well before in my life. I don't know your girl but mine has been worth all the difficulties.

Best of luck.Yes, mine is well worth the efforts. I've been involved with her for three months. I just wanted to point out some issues in long distance relationships in Argentina.

Money is an issue when flights are $800+ every six weeks plus expenses. I just can't wait more than that.

Thanks for the info on the visa bucks card.

Hafrbo
01-22-06, 20:22
First off, I agree with what's been said before (see Daddy Rulz and Capt. Dave) on how hard it is finding yourself an argentina girlfriend. Regardless, I was still intrigued at the idea of getting myself a regular girl here in BA.

It's gonna take a lot of work. Most guys coming over to BA are usually here for less than three weeks. It's taken me about that long just to go out on a couple of dates. So make a note: you will most likely lose lots of valuable mongering time chasing after locals.

Currently, I'm 1-6 in the asking for a date game.

Here's some quick notes I have been able to compile after trying to ask out a few hotties:

- Time is priceless:

Once the chica shows interest in going out with me she'll ask me how long I'm staying. And for me, this is usually the deal breaker as I'm only here for a few weeks. This alone fucks up the vibe as you can easily tell that she will start losing interest. Probably since you are not a good long term boyfriend prospect.

- don't waste THEIR time:

A lot of the chicas I have met are from the surrounding provincias of Buenos Aires. Which, usually means that they are very poor and have to take at least a one hour bus ride from their homes to come in for work in the city. In addition, some of the chicas work six days a week. Ask yourself why would they want to take time from their busy schedules to go out with you if you're only here for a few weeks?

- Be ready to deal with the bullshit:

The chica I have been going out with has been fantastic (a "9" in my view) But as you must know, they are not on vacations like you and I and have other resposibilities such as a job and families. With this particular girl she canceled one of our dates because she had no one else to take care of her sick grandma. On another time she had to cancel because she had to go in to work an extra day to help pay the rent. Did I mention that she is from the provencia and that I have to pay her taxi fare to come in to the city on her days off? My payoff? So far it's been three dates, a bj, and lots of heavy petting.

In the end, I keep asking myself why the fuck am I dealing with this shit in Argentina when this is what it's like back home? It just may not be worth it when you're only here for a few weeks of vacations. On the other hand, it would be a hell of a different story if I were living here. The women here are beautyful and have been the best I've ever had.

Hunt99
01-22-06, 21:56
Did I mention that she is from the provencia and that I have to pay her taxi fare to come in to the city on her days off? My payoff? So far it's been three dates, a bj, and lots of heavy petting.

In the end, I keep asking myself why the fuck am I dealing with this shit in Argentina when this is what it's like back home? It just may not be worth it when you're only here for a few weeks of vacations. Question: What do you call a guy who travels 5,000 miles, pays for a girl's taxi rides, deals with with BS stemming from sick grandma, and in return he gets some heavy petting?

Answer: An idiot.

Hafrbo, I don't mean that personally, as you may well be a nice guy. But why in the fuck you would do the stuff you posted is entirely beyond me. If you want a wife, you may well be on the right course. However, hanging out on a board devoted to pay-for-play sex implies to me that your priority is to get laid and have a good time - neither of which you appear to be doing with your nice respectable girl from la provincia.

Jaimito Cartero
01-22-06, 23:19
Question: What do you call a guy who travels 5,000 miles, pays for a girl's taxi rides, deals with with BS stemming from sick grandma, and in return he gets some heavy petting?

Answer: An idiot.

Hafrbo, I don't mean that personally, as you may well be a nice guy. But why in the fuck you would do the stuff you posted is entirely beyond me. If you want a wife, you may well be on the right course. However, hanging out on a board devoted to pay-for-play sex implies to me that your priority is to get laid and have a good time - neither of which you appear to be doing with your nice respectable girl from la provincia.Hell, I find myself agreeing with Hunt, and that worries me greatly. At least make her ride the subway or collectivo! Shouldn't be paying more than 3 pesos round trip!

Hafrbo
01-23-06, 19:05
I agree with what both Hunt and Cartero have said. All true and thank you for your concern.

But, I never said I wasn't visiting any of the local apartments or clubs when I'm not with the local girl (see my Pueyrron Affaire post) This is the non-pro thread and decided to stick to the subject. I'll post on the apartments I've visited on the 'Private Apartments' thread later today.

As far as petting is concerned, I don't mind if it will eventually lead me to the pot of gold:

I've now had a BBBJTC and one two hour session with my local girl in the past two days. In my opinion, some things are worth waiting for. She was by far the best I've had compared to the girls at the apartments. Most of the girls at the apartments I have visited have not been up to my standards.

And yes, I do make my local girl take the collectivo from her house in the provencia (45 minutes) She gets to the centro and then has to take the subte from the Pelligrini station to Bulnes. And once she gets to Bulnes she then has to walk 4 blocks to get to my apartment. I'd love to see someone try to get one of those boliche girls to go through that much shit just to come see you.

It's only when we go out to discos on Friday and Saturday night's that I pay for the taxi from her house (most discos don't get going until after 12:30 a.m. After 10 p.m. The subte closes down and some buses only run once every hour after that time too. I'm just being practical.

Anyways, I was in bed with her again today. This time for four hours and then she left my apartment around 1:30 to get to work. Total cost to me was $35 pesos for lunch. Now, I'm free to go out to the clubs or bars.

Tommorrow she will take the day off and take me on a tour of Costa del Sur. So, I'll probably fuck her again after that and then let her sweet ass take the bus back home.

Cheers!

Jjgoinslow
02-12-06, 01:35
Obvio! I'm fairly new to the paid-for sex scene, but I cannot imagine it can EVER be as good as a real woman. But I'm still relatively young. I met a girl in Cordoba in a libreria of all places. She was more smoking hot than any working girl Ive seen here yet. I won't go into the details because thats not about business, thats about real life. These working girls are only about business. With this girl, I was biting my lip every 10 minutes to see if I was dreaming. We drank wine and cuddled on her bed and. Till the wee hours and she smelled incredible!

The working girls are a poor substitute, perhaps like an adventure travel agency, but you can't pay for the best things in life. NUNCA.

Jj

El Perro
02-12-06, 10:04
Obvio! I'm fairly new to the paid-for sex scene, but I cannot imagine it can EVER be as good as a real woman. But I'm still relatively young. I met a girl in Cordoba in a libreria of all places. She was more smoking hot than any working girl Ive seen here yet. I won't go into the details because thats not about business, thats about real life. These working girls are only about business. With this girl, I was biting my lip every 10 minutes to see if I was dreaming. We drank wine and cuddled on her bed and. Till the wee hours and she smelled incredible!

The working girls are a poor substitute, perhaps like an adventure travel agency, but you can't pay for the best things in life. NUNCA.

JjShe must have stuck a finger up your ass!

Thomaso276
02-12-06, 10:11
"The working girls are a poor substitute, perhaps like an adventure travel agency, but you can't pay for the best things in life. NUNCA. "

Don't worry pal, you will pay eventually!

Sportsman
02-12-06, 16:06
Don't worry pal, you will pay eventually!With interests! ;)

Jjgoinslow
02-12-06, 16:49
Despues leía muchos del posts aca, a mi es obvio que hay muchos misóginos aca. Sí no tenés respeto para las mujeres, por eso, no podés conocer a mujere buena Y real. Por esto, talvez preferís a pagar. O talvez sos simplemente feo.

Suerte,

Jj

El Perro
02-12-06, 17:29
Despues leía muchos del posts aca, a mi es obvio que hay muchos misóginos aca. Sí no tenés respeto para las mujeres, por eso, no podés conocer a mujere buena why real. Por esto, talvez preferís a pagar. O talvez sos simplemente feo.

Suerte,

JjHey! No fair!

Rock Harders
02-12-06, 18:10
DB-

Here is an easy english version of what jjgoinslow wrote.

"After I read many of the post here, it is obvious to me that there are many misfits here. If you do not have respect for the women, as a result, it is not possible to really know the women. Anyway, maybe you prefer to pay. Or maybe you are simply ugly"

Jjgoinslow-

You obviously have some accurate points here, but come on, you are definetly barking up the wrong tree posting that sort of "mujeres son diosas" stuff here, this is a forum about Prostitution and Mongering and the ways to maximize those lifestyles, not a forum on how to be "warm and fuzzy" with the local women in order to "know their real person". This thread is for scoring the most non-pro action, not for giving relationship advice, we can all watch Alexandra Rampallo on Cosmopolitan TV Argentina for that.

Suerte,

Dirk



Dirk

Jjgoinslow
02-13-06, 03:35
OK,

Not misfits, misogynists.

Not *because* some like paying -

Some would *rather* pay because they don't like women and can't get a real woman because really great women are unlikely to date misogynists.

("por" can mean "cause")

My point would be that if you (someone) would rather pay for a prostitute than have a real woman, its probably because you never figured out how to gel with awesome women cause you never respected them, if you had, you would damn well know what I'm talking about.

Sometimes I like paying for sex, but its not because I like pro's better than real women. Its efficient, easy, lazy but can be fun, exciting, etc and in AR its cheap. But prostitutes are no substitute - its a service.

Anyway, the name of the thread is: Tourists looking for Argentine girlfriends.

Sounds pretty open-ended to me.

Furthermore, Dirk, maybe part of the key to "scoring" with a non-pro is to respect her? I'm relatively young on this, but my experience has been that if a woman is willing to go out on a date with me, then I can generally have her as my lover within some variable amount of time. However, amazingly, its not even really my goal, and maybe thats why she wants to give it up to me. Dishonesty and manipulation are unnecesary unless you want to score with a dishonest and manipulative woman.

Now that I've beat that point to death, the jackals in the peanut gallery here can pass her around like another "new find", or maybe we can drop it since you're only interested in scoring anyway so how does responding to this fit into your goals here.

Suerte,

Jj

Rock Harders
02-13-06, 04:07
jjgoinslow-

"Act like you don't want the shit, and they give you the shit for free"

- A notion I try to live by, in sex, dating, other endeavours where a negotiated exchange is taking place. Maybe I am just a sick, fucked up person with way too much testosterone flowing through my veins, but I'll tell you one thing, the absolute first thing that comes to my mind whenever I see a female is a) would I fuck this women. Be) could I fuck this women. I do not see a beautiful women and wonder if she can help me to arrive at emotional "completeness" or anything along those lines.

Keep in mind that I am definetly not trying to insult you or make you feel uncomfortable here, I was just stating a counterargument to your notion that the majority of the older folk on the AP forum like prostitutes because they themselves are either ugly or are women-haters. I myself am very young, chances are younger than you, and I occaisonally fuck working girls for the sheer thrill when my current non-pro action is unavailable for whatever reason. The vast majority of my Buenos Aires scores were via regular girls; I could count the number of pros I have f'ed on my fingers.

Judging from your opinions posted here, you sound like a genuine nice guy, we differ in this regard- my goal here in Buenos Aires at this time is to "fuck 'em all" while I am young and can get away with it- then when I am nearing the end of my "run", a few years from now, I will have found the "one" (which will be an Argentine women) and settle into some semblence of a normal life, somewhere.

Suerte,

Dirk

Andres
02-13-06, 10:24
Sometimes I like paying for sex, but its not because I like pro's better than real women. From your posting, I should assume that pros aren't real women.

I guess that you meant "it's not because I like pros better than women with whom I may have a non-monetary transactional relationship".

I know no less that 3 members of this board who built their "circle of chicas", who were known in boliches or such and became friends who sometimes ask for favors. What I mean is that the line between pros and "friends with advantages" are very fuzzy.

Andres

Thomaso276
02-13-06, 19:59
Jjgoinslow,

In an earlier post you said you had limited spanish skills, now you are writing posts in spanish and explaining the subtle differences for some words.

Anyhow, the post sounds kind of insulting to me, but I promised a close friend I would tone down my remarks to these type of responses.

Good luck.

Hunt99
02-13-06, 21:32
"I don't pay hookers for sex, I pay them to leave afterwards."

-Wise Unknown Monger

Moore
02-13-06, 21:39
That was Sir Charlie Sheen, who said it in court during the Heidi Fleiss trial, Your Honor.

===================================================

Gentlemen,

The original quotation was made by Errol Flynn in the height of his career.

"I don't pay women to have sex with me, I pay them to leave afterwards."

Thanks,

Jackson

Full Throttle
02-14-06, 00:24
"I don't pay hookers for sex, I pay them to leave afterwards."

-Wise Unknown MongerYeah, but Charlie Sheen used the line in court, which gives him partial claim to it, at least.

Jjgoinslow
02-14-06, 01:12
Jjgoinslow,

In an earlier post you said you had limited spanish skills, now you are writing posts in spanish and explaining the subtle differences for some words.

Anyhow, the post sounds kind of insulting to me, but I promised a close friend I would tone down my remarks to these type of responses.

Good luck.Well, believe it or not, I learn fast. I wrote it in spanish cause I figured it would be good for non-speaking folks to pull out a dictionary and have some practise. I didnt direct it at anyone in particular, Its only insulting to you if you self identify with the kind of person I am describing. I find alot of the posts on here insulting. I know at least one chica who reads this forum and agrees with me. Anyway its helpful and entertaining.

Point taken regarding my use of "real women", pros are real women too, but the sensuality they offer is not so real, an act. An act best understood in contrast with a woman offering herself cause she likes you.

Jj

Andres
02-14-06, 11:34
Point taken regarding my use of "real women", pros are real women too, but the sensuality they offer is not so real, an act. An act best understood in contrast with a woman offering herself cause she likes you.

JjYour argument is valid only for extreme situations (that is, a hardened pro vs a sweet long-term girlfriend) For most of the other "early stage" encounters (I guess that we are discussing that scenario) the line remains fuzzy.

For instance, for a non pro "offering herself" and really liking you, she has to know you better. Rarely do women openly "engage" on the first sexual encounter. For a pro with whom you have "chemistry", she may enjoy herself on the first encounter and afterwards, without enolving monetary transactions after the 2nd encounter and knowing you better.

My experience is that a woman "likes" you if you can understand her or make her laugh (I leave on the side others angles such as looks, style and hygiene) and in that aspect pros and non pros are alike.

Andres

Monaya
03-26-08, 04:30
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Exon123
03-26-08, 13:26
A real "Girl Next Door" type, any contact imformation on her.

Exon

Jackson
03-26-08, 15:19
Nice home type latina woman with lots of sexual energy. Silly and super sexy. Her video is spontaneous and silly but also fresh, sexy and nasty. She will knock your socks off is you enjoy true private home vids.

Her video is spontaneous and silly but also fresh, sexy and nasty. She will knock your socks off is you enjoy true private home vids.

http://yurporn.com/view_video.php?viewkey=41343aa7acb6a06a751e

a nude pic of her

http://www.timtube.com/picture/38848-mexican-home-beauty.html=====================================================

Greetings Everyone,

Please remember that Monaya was the guy who gave us this:

http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4520

Which he later asked me to delete, stating "I posted it as a joke".

This is the same girl.

Thanks,

Jackson

PS: Exon, don't you remember which girls you've already jacked off to?

Daddy Rulz
03-30-08, 14:36
PS: Exon, don't you remember which girls you've already jacked off to?Best so far