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Hobbying
02-29-08, 16:26
This will be my first time in BA, any leads would be greatly appreciated!

MCSE
02-29-08, 22:27
This will be my first time in BA, any leads would be greatly appreciated!Hi,

I'm currently developing www.fucky.com.ar Please note that some of the listings may not be available for actual jobs.

The idea it's to specialize in art nude models, adult film actresses and hi-end escorts. Unfortunaly I've been so busy with other stuff, but I'm sure that eventually this will become very popular (as my other projects) So just in case you can locate and actually fuck these hotties, never hesitate to PM me in order to offer them a list. As I will be providing free access too for the AP members.

JackLuvsRack
03-01-08, 00:36
Hi MSCE,

Nice site. When you say hi end escorts, what kind of cost are we looking at here? Area VIP type or more?

Thanks,

Jack

AllIWantIsLove
03-01-08, 11:30
This will be my first time in BA, any leads would be greatly appreciated!I assume you know about the BsAs escort sites and how to search them for porn, porno, actress and actriz.

You may not know about the local forum: www.foro-escorts.com.ar

Don't forget the "-", if you do you will get a different site.

In addition to searching the local forum you could also ask your question in their English section.

Good Luck, Bob

MCSE
03-01-08, 12:11
Hi MSCE,

Nice site. When you say hi end escorts, what kind of cost are we looking at here? Area VIP type or more?

Thanks,

JackThanks!

Well, no, this will have nothing in common to Area Vip:

- face uncovered.

- no fakes.

- larger pictures and probably HD videos.

- and absolutely I will remove the bad performing or conflictive ones.

About the cost per hour, it should be regulated by the market (supply and demand) Another thing I would like to add it's the rates on the profile, so you can see in advance how much is it. But I don't know if the girls like that, I don't see that at any website but one (the one of cieloprivate)

Exon123
03-01-08, 14:23
Hi,

I'm currently developing www.fucky.com.ar Please note that some of the listings may not be available for actual jobs.

The idea it's to specialize in art nude models, adult film actresses and hi-end escorts. Unfortunaly I've been so busy with other stuff, but I'm sure that eventually this will become very popular (as my other projects) So just in case you can locate and actually fuck these hotties, never hesitate to PM me in order to offer them a list. As I will be providing free access too for the AP members.Very nice well done web site MCSE.

Are all these girls on the program, and if so what kind of money are we talking about?

Exon

MCSE
03-01-08, 20:56
Very nice well done web site MCSE.

Are all these girls on the program, and if so what kind of money are we talking about?

ExonThanks Exon:

As I said, I'm working on it and developing the website and it's contents, so what I need now it's the contents, the escorts, the working girls to be listed.

I wish I can list reliable ones in there and offer a special treatement (more time for the same money, or something like that) to the AP members, that would be great!

Note: the actresses and nude arts models will work only for productions.

Lysander
03-02-08, 22:59
Well MCSE there's no question that there is a gap in the market in Argentina for a good quality agency escort / web site. The current web sites (baires, platynum etc are not that great, and are not agencies at all. The girls / privados pay a fee to have the girls listed and that's it. If you want to see what a quality agency web site looks like, do a google for some of the better london agency web sites. Try "Annas angels", "The Hot Collection", "Affair Girls", "Agency Barracuda", "Max's Angles". You'll note that all the sites provide full prices and list services offered, and also include user reviews, not all of them positive. The really popular girls tend to get lots of good reviews.

All the good London agencies interview the applicants carefully, give them a short induction program, monitor their progress and retire them if they get justified complaints, or if they fail top attract enough customers. The girls all operate from their own apartments (sometimes sharing with one or two others) and the agency checks to ensure that the apartment is up to standard. To protect the girls the agencies take careful note of outcall addresses before sending anyone out and share "troublesome" customer blacklists. The girls ring into the agency when customer arrives and again when he leaves. The agency takes around 30% of each booking. Now London escort prices are high, but then London salaries are high and there are lots of expense account business travellers and millionaire expats. In BA there is just isn't the same spending power.

I agree with you that a decent well run and honest escort agency with a really good web site, might do very well in BA. Don't know why there aren't any. Tax or legal reasons perhaps?

Not so sure about the web site name. If you had to chose a low-end hooker web site name then FUCKY. COM would be it. I can just see the strap line "Fuck your brains out with Fucky. Com - where you get more bang for your buck.". Or something like that.

I can't imagine that any "high-end" girl or any girl who undertands a word of English would want to be associated with an agency called fucky. Com. And frankly as a user I would find it a bit off putting as well. How about "Argentina Angels" or something less in your face then fucky. Com.

Good luck with your venture.

MCSE
03-03-08, 00:23
Hey Lysander: Thanks for the suggestions, I'll see what goes in the future, stills a project right now. What about www.buenosairesglam.com?

That's definetly more classy, but I did not wanted to burn the domain yet til I have clear that fucky could work.

I see your post make sense and I'll keep it in mind. Thanks again and take care,

MCSE.


Well MCSE there's no question that there is a gap in the market in Argentina for a good quality agency escort / web site. The current web sites (baires, platynum etc are not that great, and are not agencies at all. The girls / privados pay a fee to have the girls listed and that's it. If you want to see what a quality agency web site looks like, do a google for some of the better london agency web sites. Try "Annas angels", "The Hot Collection", "Affair Girls", "Agency Barracuda", "Max's Angles". You'll note that all the sites provide full prices and list services offered, and also include user reviews, not all of them positive. The really popular girls tend to get lots of good reviews.

All the good London agencies interview the applicants carefully, give them a short induction program, monitor their progress and retire them if they get justified complaints, or if they fail top attract enough customers. The girls all operate from their own apartments (sometimes sharing with one or two others) and the agency checks to ensure that the apartment is up to standard. To protect the girls the agencies take careful note of outcall addresses before sending anyone out and share "troublesome" customer blacklists. The girls ring into the agency when customer arrives and again when he leaves. The agency takes around 30% of each booking. Now London escort prices are high, but then London salaries are high and there are lots of expense account business travellers and millionaire expats. In BA there is just isn't the same spending power.

I agree with you that a decent well run and honest escort agency with a really good web site, might do very well in BA. Don't know why there aren't any. Tax or legal reasons perhaps?

Not so sure about the web site name. If you had to chose a low-end hooker web site name then FUCKY. COM would be it. I can just see the strap line "Fuck your brains out with Fucky. Com - where you get more bang for your buck.". Or something like that.

I can't imagine that any "high-end" girl or any girl who undertands a word of English would want to be associated with an agency called fucky. Com. And frankly as a user I would find it a bit off putting as well. How about "Argentina Angels" or something less in your face then fucky. Com.

Good luck with your venture.

BadMan
03-03-08, 00:25
Agencies can be a tricky thing to manage plus, as an owner you can be much more liable since it is literally " pimping ". This is the reason companies like cityvibe. Com in the US aren't really agencies. They are websites that sells advertising space on their domains. This generally frees it from " most " legal or criminal liability.

Also, there are very few SMOKING ladies who would want to be part of an agency unless they are getting UK prices, ie 300-500 GBP an hour, Try getting a good split between Agency and Chica from 300-400 AR, it won't happen and either the prices will have to go up or the girl will be disgruntled. They don't want to give a random website or pimp a % 20- 50 commission. That makes the website something akin to a privado and we all know how much girls be*tch about privados and the first chance they get, they go independent, rent or share their own apartment, pay for their own advertising on various websites and keep all their own revenue (as it should be)

There are many ways to proactively manage, quality control and maintain a good stable without having to directly pimp the chicas. One of the good most honest ways, as you stated, is simply honest reviews, screening process, non glamour shots and constant modifying of the list (throwing out bad eggs)

Platynum, Area and Bairesgirls have many many flaws. And it would be good to have screening processes, chica standards, non glamour photos, listed prices (btw, none of this is " original " it has been done before countless times, no one is inventing anything new here) but an agency is not the way to go, disgruntled girls making less money because of the agency, greedy pimps taking their " cuts ", higher prices to supplement two incomes etc.)

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I have a website in the works ( advertise by invitation only and no, not an agency ) those that know my old website, know what the name will be. It will be a simple website that will be on an invite only basis. I have a black book filled with all my top recommended chicas, the cream of the BA crop IMHO, and only they will be invited to advertise.

There will be many many options not seen on any other BA website, that is all I will say at the time, lest my ideas be poorly imitated prematurely. Let's just say, it will blow everything BA has to offer out of the water, style, quality and content wise. Stay tuned, things are about to get very interesting in the BA escort website game.

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And I'll do you guys a solid, instead of simple shameless gratuitous self promotion I will actually answer the question.

This is the bible of available pornstars in BA.

http://www.foro-escorts.com.ar/foros/showthread.php?t=27894&page=38&highlight=porno+national

Note, you will need Spanish to understand everything posted but you should be able to follow the links rather easily.

When I have time, I will try to compile my own list in English.

Regards,

BM

MCSE
03-03-08, 00:34
I have a website in the works You seem to be always late, and that's very bad, man.

BadMan
03-03-08, 00:48
* yawns *.

Jackson
03-03-08, 01:31
Okay, that's one barb each.

Now move on.

Thanks,

Jackson

Lysander
03-03-08, 01:34
Agencies can be a tricky thing to manage plus, as an owner you can be much more liable since it is literally " pimping ". This is the reason companies like cityvibe. Com in the US aren't really agencies. They are websites that sells advertising space on their domains. This generally frees it from " most " legal or criminal liability.

Also, there are very few SMOKING ladies who would want to be part of an agency unless they are getting UK prices, ie 300-500 GBP an hour, Try getting a good split between Agency and Chica from 300-400 AR, it won't happen and either the prices will have to go up or the girl will be disgruntled. They don't want to give a random website or pimp a % 20- 50 commission. That makes the website something akin to a privado and we all know how much girls be*tch about privados and the first chance they get, they go independent, rent or share their own apartment, pay for their own advertising on various websites and keep all their own revenue (as it should be)

There are many ways to proactively manage, quality control and maintain a good stable without having to directly pimp the chicas. One of the good most honest ways, as you stated, is simply honest reviews, screening process, non glamour shots and constant modifying of the list (throwing out bad eggs)

Platynum, Area and Bairesgirls have many many flaws. And it would be good to have screening processes, chica standards, non glamour photos, listed prices (btw, none of this is " original " it has been done before countless times, no one is inventing anything new here) but an agency is not the way to go, disgruntled girls making less money because of the agency, greedy pimps taking their " cuts ", higher prices to supplement two incomes etc.

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BMAs it happens the London agencies don't "own" the girls. Most girls register with more than one agency and many have their own "private" clients and their own personal web sites as well. But the agencies do provide quality web sites with a high hit rate and the other services that I've already mentioned. The girls I've spoken to think 30% is worth the extra business they get and the protection offered. And by the way, many of the girls (especially those from Poland and Russia) are not dumb country girls who are being taken for a ride. They are often well educated and smart. No agency would get away with charging 50%. The agencies do attract smoking hot girls. Have a look at some of the web sites (like Annas Angels if you don't believe me. And the average rate charged is half the figure you quote (150-250 UK pounds not 300-500 per hour) There are lot of really great looking girls (mainly Eastern European and Asian) for 150 pounds per hour. Yes of course girls who have built up a good client list and good reviews on escort review sites can and do dispense with agencies, put up their own web sites and run their show, but most girls don't want the extra effort and risk and are happy to stick with the agencies.

Now of course not all agencies are well run, and some of the web sites are looking a bit tired. The legal situation in the uK ambiguous to say the least, but that doesn't seem to get in their way, as long as they don't try to get too clever with the tax man.

BadMan
03-03-08, 01:57
Simple fact here. They might not own the girls per say, but taking a percentage comes from the average punters wallet. Tell me again why this is needed?

I have lived in Europe half my life. I know the agencies quite well and have written a few in depth reports on them in the ISG.

If you look at it this way. You stated 150-250 GBP (I know other websites that charge more,) 30% of this goes to an agencies pocket 300-500 Dollar an hour and 100-150 of that goes to an agency. For what?

I actually like the way the BA scene is run (not the specifics) but the general idea. Of good websites that allow the girls to advertise without having to pimp them and adding a 30% surcharge. Thus keeping prices in check.

A girl that charges 400 AR on Area isn't going to go to an "agency", and receive 280 AR for her trouble instead. But she will go to a website that offers everything the agency offers AND more and pay a flat monthly fee to be listed (knowing that her placement is contingent upon her over all service and reviews)

And tell my why a listing site that does all of what an agency does and more yet doesn't charge a commission is a bad thing?

Regards,

BM.

MCSE
03-03-08, 11:49
Try "Annas angels", "The Hot Collection", "Affair Girls", "Agency Barracuda", "Max's Angles".Well, agency barracuda does not seems pretty much appealing too. What about anal-una.com?:)

El Perro
03-03-08, 12:03
Well, agency barracuda does not seems pretty much appealing too. What about anal-una.com?:)"Score A Whoare"

Lysander
03-03-08, 16:05
Well, agency barracuda does not seems pretty much appealing too. What about anal-una. Com?:)Wasn't suggesting you use "Agency Barracuda" as a name for your site. You can find enough barracuda in Newport any night of the week - you don't need a new agency for that! But these London agency web sites I mentioned below might be worth looking at for some ideas on what your site could look like.

Exon123
03-03-08, 17:05
Agencies can be a tricky thing to manage plus, as an owner you can be much more liable since it is literally " pimping ". This is the reason companies like cityvibe. Com in the US aren't really agencies. They are websites that sells advertising space on their domains. This generally frees it from " most " legal or criminal liability.

Also, there are very few SMOKING ladies who would want to be part of an agency unless they are getting UK prices, ie 300-500 GBP an hour, Try getting a good split between Agency and Chica from 300-400 AR, it won't happen and either the prices will have to go up or the girl will be disgruntled. They don't want to give a random website or pimp a % 20- 50 commission. That makes the website something akin to a privado and we all know how much girls be*tch about privados and the first chance they get, they go independent, rent or share their own apartment, pay for their own advertising on various websites and keep all their own revenue (as it should be)

There are many ways to proactively manage, quality control and maintain a good stable without having to directly pimp the chicas. One of the good most honest ways, as you stated, is simply honest reviews, screening process, non glamour shots and constant modifying of the list (throwing out bad eggs)

Platynum, Area and Bairesgirls have many many flaws. And it would be good to have screening processes, chica standards, non glamour photos, listed prices (btw, none of this is " original " it has been done before countless times, no one is inventing anything new here) but an agency is not the way to go, disgruntled girls making less money because of the agency, greedy pimps taking their " cuts ", higher prices to supplement two incomes etc.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have a website in the works (advertise by invitation only and no, not an agency) those that know my old website, know what the name will be. It will be a simple website that will be on an invite only basis. I have a black book filled with all my top recommended chicas, the cream of the BA crop IMHO, and only they will be invited to advertise.

There will be many many options not seen on any other BA website, that is all I will say at the time, lest my ideas be poorly imitated prematurely. Let's just say, it will blow everything BA has to offer out of the water, style, quality and content wise. Stay tuned, things are about to get very interesting in the BA escort website game.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

And I'll do you guys a solid, instead of simple shameless gratuitous self promotion I will actually answer the question.

This is the bible of available pornstars in BA.

http://www.foro-escorts.com.ar/foros/showthread.php?t=27894&page=38&highlight=porno+national

Note, you will need Spanish to understand everything posted but you should be able to follow the links rather easily.

When I have time, I will try to compile my own list in English.

Regards,

BMHere is the fore mentioned website translated into English by Google

Its interesting and worth a read

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foro-escorts.com.ar%2Fforos%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D27894%26page%3D38%26highlight%3Dporno%2Bnational&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Exon

Hobbying
03-03-08, 22:05
I think everyone has a different definition of porn star and playboy model. For me porn star means someone that has been on a box cover, not some girl that was on an armature website. And playboy model means someone that was a feature girl with a spread out, not some girl that was in a caption though they maybe very hot too. Just my opinion.

MCSE
03-04-08, 10:32
I think everyone has a different definition of porn star and playboy model. For me porn star means someone that has been on a box cover, not some girl that was on an armature website. And playboy model means someone that was a feature girl with a spread out, not some girl that was in a caption though they maybe very hot too. Just my opinion.Interesting:

Here it's one:

Do a google search and insert lisetfeider.com in the search box to prevent the webmaster see a link from this website.

Well, the point with this particular one is that she is tall and wide, she looks great! On the pictures, not that well on the videos, but her shoulders (in person) are so wide, also, her skin, not that good maintained. 2 more kilos on that girl and she gets undoable.

So this is a case of a model who looks better in pictures than in person.

AllIWantIsLove
03-04-08, 12:59
<snip> I have a website in the works (advertise by invitation only and no, not an agency) those that know my old website, know what the name will be. It will be a simple website that will be on an invite only basis. I have a black book filled with all my top recommended chicas, the cream of the BA crop IMHO, and only they will be invited to advertise.

There will be many many options not seen on any other BA website, that is all I will say at the time, lest my ideas be poorly imitated prematurely. Let's just say, it will blow everything BA has to offer out of the water, style, quality and content wise. Stay tuned, things are about to get very interesting in the BA escort website game. <snip> BMFirst of all, good luck with this. I am anxious to see it.

In my opinion, what we need most is a web site which does not allow the girls to change their names every other week. Most of them do that and as a result reviews are almost worthless.

Also, although you, a handsome young stud, may have recieved good service from a girl, how do you know that all of us will? That's where I can help. I'm an ugly, old man. So if they give me good service they will give good service to anyone. I'm offering to test the girls for you at a very reasonable cost per girl.

Bob

Hobbying
03-04-08, 14:49
First of all, good luck with this. I am anxious to see it.

In my opinion, what we need most is a web site which does not allow the girls to change their names every other week. Most of them do that and as a result reviews are almost worthless.

Also, although you, a handsome young stud, may have recieved good service from a girl, how do you know that all of us will? That's where I can help. I'm an ugly, old man. So if they give me good service they will give good service to anyone. I'm offering to test the girls for you at a very reasonable cost per girl.

BobThanks in advance for taking many for the team! I would say though every girl is YMMV.

MCSE
03-04-08, 15:03
Another example:

Mia, she made a couple of productions for duck my jeans. She also was the included girl of the month for baez apt http://www.barts.com.ar/barts/lodgin/gallery.php?bartsapartment=mia_en_baez

But she is not reallly a pornstar.

BadMan
03-04-08, 18:47
Here's a little less self promotion and more actual topic content.

Antonella is brand new today on area-vip.

http://www.area-vip.com.ar/chicas/antonella/pagina/espanol.htm

She has been doing porn for the past couple of years and off the market. Seems she is back in business, INDEPENDENT.

Here are a couple links to her recent videos. She is under the name Lorena
I tried her out already. Body and service is nice fellas.

Regards,

BM.

http://www.fuckmyjeans.com/tight-jeans/index4.html?

http://www.lustyoffice.com/office-sex/index3.html?

http://www.15on1.com/home.html?nats=MTA5OjM6Mjk

MCSE
03-04-08, 19:37
Another interesting example it's about Paula:

http://www.fucky.com.ar/db/featured.php?model=paula_figueroa
She did several productions.

http://www.bigmamadas.com/samples/melanie.jpg

A sample is in there.

She is a little older than francesca, but she performs better.