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LA Larry
02-24-03, 19:09
A note about the economy and its effect on the chica trade.

100 pesos still buys 100 US Dollars worth of food and service in Argentina. (For proof, look at the cost of Hotels, Apartments, groceries, restaurants, cabs, etc).

Therefore--even though the currency has lost its value compared to the American dollar--it still has real value in Argentina.

In other nations when their currency collapses--they always seem to "adjust" the price of everthing upwards--to compensate for the devaulation.

Such an adjustment would be deadly for Argentinos whose banks remain in serious trouble. If prices were to inflate while cash & jobs remain scarce--you have the ingredients for anarchy.

Happily--prices for all goods and services in BA remain dirt cheap to Americans and Europeans and "within reach" to Argentinos.


As an aside--

I remember distinctly back in March of last year when the currency was at the very beginnings of its free fall, I scored at least 4 chicas out of Blacks for 150 pesos plus the exit drinks (see my rather long April 2002 post in the Archives).

This must have been some kind of magic period before the girls of Blacks "caught on" and began their adjustment. I should add that there were very few American European mongers in Blacks back then, compared to now.

But on my last trip to BA, several weeks ago, the girls in Blacks were asking for an arm and a fucking leg. A few had the cojones to request $300 US Dollars, which quickly came down to $100 US dollars for two hours (which I passed on--without the slightest regret).

Andres
02-24-03, 20:35
LA Larry:

ar$100 don't buy US$100 of food and service as before the devaluation. Inflation for 2002 was 39%, and in some agricultural sectors it went above 100% due to rises in international prices.

I remember that a 1 Liter bottle of fresh orange juice from COTO costed ar$1.5 in December 2001, and it was ar$2 in July 2002.

Andres

LA Larry
02-24-03, 21:03
Thanks Andres--

I stand corrected.

But I was basing my comment on my experiences over the holidays where I found restaurants to be incredibly inexpensive still. For example, I often dined with a chica in a moderately upscale restaruant and the bill would come out to 50 pesos (the same meal for two in a comparable restaurant in America would cost around 50-60 dollars or thereabouts)

I also stayed in at the Hotel Castellar on Avenida de Mayo and found the rates to be bargain basement. (The same type of hotel in NYC or Paris--or even Moscow would run at least $150 US Dollars per might) In BA i beleive my rate was around 80 pesos per night. (and this isn't a dumpy hotel by any stretch).

In any case--most mongers will find everything (short of imported goods) to be much cheaper than home.

Pahllus Maximus
02-25-03, 00:09
Good questions on BA:-

1. Are there any unemployed maths and stats teachers who speak English and how much to pay them ? How would I find them ?

2. Are there any good gyms with trainers and how much ?

3. Are there any decent pathology labs and how much for tests (NOT hiv) ?

4. What is the deal on anal ? Some say that most girls do it, other not ? Is this what they mean by "service complete" ?

5. How much just for a good hand job, nothing else ? Where are the good places for this ?

6. A few weeks ago someone mentioned a small place that specialized in blowjobs and was pretty cheap - can someone remind me ?

Starfe
02-25-03, 00:10
jackson,

" pay the girl in the bar "

could you not tell that was a joke reply.

lighten up, you take this stuff to seriously

starfe

Hi starfe,

Yes, I recognized immediately that "pay the girl in the bar" was a joke, that's why I didn't respond to that portion of your comments.

Jackson

Andres
02-25-03, 01:17
Originally posted by Pahllus Maximus
Good questions on BA:-

1. Are there any unemployed maths and stats teachers who speak English and how much to pay them ? How would I find them ?

2. Are there any good gyms with trainers and how much ?

3. Are there any decent pathology labs and how much for tests (NOT hiv) ?

4. What is the deal on anal ? Some say that most girls do it, other not ? Is this what they mean by "service complete" ?

5. How much just for a good hand job, nothing else ? Where are the good places for this ?

6. A few weeks ago someone mentioned a small place that specialized in blowjobs and was pretty cheap - can someone remind me ?

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1) A teacher for truly learning math or a "special" teacher?

If you want a normal teacher, just go to Ciudad Universitaria, Pabellon 1 (University of Buenos Aires Campus, Building 1) and read the boards. You will be able to collect many phone numbers. Also, you can ask for the Department of Mathematics, where someone will be able to help you.

2) There is a gym near the Congress called Barre Colorate (Pasco St and Rivadavia Av). I think that it is good.

You can also go to YMCA (Reconquista St and Corrientes Av) and ask for a temporary membership for a month. It shouldn't cost more than ar$100 a month. YMCA has great pools, but the gyms may be substandard.

3) There is one in Junin St between Santa Fe Av and MT Alvear St, very big and with black front (if I remember). You can't miss it, near the corner of MT Alvear.

4) YMMV, as usual. They may say they do in their ads but they won't at your request, and the opposite. Not every girl stands on her words (if there's any at all...).

"Completo" means anal. But again, they may not provide t if they ain't the mood.

5) Don't know.

6) Don't know

Hope this helps,

Andres

Jak
02-25-03, 01:36
starfe -

On second reading, your posts were rather humorous.

But I do understand Jackson's serious take on the money issue. As the guy that essentially lives there and loves the city and scene, he seems to be getting some vibes that the "paradise" is beginning to be threatened just a bit. If I'm reading between the lines of his long post on appropriate pricing and procedures, I'd say he is kindly asking the "brotherhood" to take a close look at something he sees as important. I'll respect that.

If you start sending the money to the girls by Western Union before you get there, then I think we need to talk.

Starfe
02-25-03, 01:53
jak ,

the drop in the pesos from 3.8 to 3.16 can't help either. everything cost a little more. so those that moved down there over the past year are starting to feel the pinch.

starfe

JamesBond69
02-25-03, 02:17
Originally posted by Pahllus Maximus
6. A few weeks ago someone mentioned a small place that specialized in blowjobs and was pretty cheap - can someone remind me ?

Yes. The small place that specializes in blowjobs is the men's room of the McDonalds in Recoleta Village. It will cost you 3 pesos - less than $1US - but you must present a coupon to receive the service.

The Blowjob also includes a free order of French Fries from the bearer that can be redeemed at the front counter.

Hope this helps. Life is good:-)

Damn, it's right across the street from me and I didn't even know it! Think of all the french fries I could have had for free.

Dickhead
02-25-03, 03:56
$33,000 per year just on pussy! Two different girls every day, all day, all year long. Jackson da man. I was thinking of having my dick bronzed but now I think since I can't run with the big dogs I'll just sit my ass on the porch. I got about $26,000 net of tax to play with so I guess since I need to at least eat a 7 course Irish meal every day (that is a six-pack and a potato for those who don't know) I can only have [(360 x 2) x ((26,000 - 1,000 for beer and potatos) or is it potatoes help me Dan Quayle) / 33,000)] = 1.52 chicas per day if I sleep in the bushes like everyone else down there.

Come to think of it, that don't seem too bad. Hope I got the math right. Anybody know what potatoes run down there? I figure since Brahma is 1.40 pesos per 40 oz and a six pack is 72 oz so [(72/40) x 1.4] / 3.17 current exchange rate x 360 days = $286.18 so how many potatoes can I buy for $713.82???

Do the chicas charge more for TLN if they have to sleep in the bushes? :)

11 days and counting.

Fear not, DH, there's always room in the pack for a guy who can fearlessly wade into the SW scene and haul off the best of the wild ones.

Steven
02-25-03, 04:57
A quick post and to the point.

Where is better to go for a hobby vacation, Rio or BA? Why?

What are the names of the current clubs in BA where the best action is?

Thank you.

MoonDog
02-25-03, 05:27
Originally posted by BigBruno
A quick post and to the point.

Where is better to go for a hobby vacation, Rio or BA? Why?

What are the names of the current clubs in BA where the best action is?

Thank you.

BigBruno,

Rio is the beach, BA is the city. Take you pick. The girls are beautiful in both places.

All the clubs have the best action. On any given night, everyone of them will be different. Explore until you find one that you like.

Moondog

Vsg888
02-25-03, 08:31
Was just in Nuevo Estilo Boliche (NEB) tonight. My first time in the place. Definitely interesting like the other posters have remarked.

This is my 2nd trip down to BA. I was down here last Fall and had a great time with the Chicas. Except for Black´s the prices and the Chicas were reasonable.

This time ... maybe the luck of the draw, but it´s been completely different:

1) At NEB, I was quoted 120P for 20 minutes and 220P for 1H. The Chicas were of decent quality, but this was one of the few times where I just walked away. The old prices were 60P for 30 minutes and I was told by the ¨matre de¨ that the price was 75P. Anyone else having these issues at NEB?

2) At Newport, one good looking blonde wanted 200US for 1H and another Brazilian blonde that I took back to the hotel wanted to be paid first. I followed Jackson´s rule and sent her packing.

Hopefully, things are going to start looking up. I´ve been towing the line with respect to these insulting price quotes, but it´s getting a little frustrating. How´s things with the other hobbyists?

I have to agree with Andres (see above) about Newports. I live next door to the place and I see the action there every day. Newports is a vipers nest of experienced, hard-core pros masquerading as amatures and just waiting for "the accidential tourist" to come walking in the door. Unless you've got a lot of experience and a willingness to tell them to fuck off at the first sign if BS, don't go.

Jackson

Saint
02-25-03, 13:21
BigBruno,

Take the time to go read all the posts and compare both cities. Two totally different cities. Both have hot girls but Rio is definitely easier. The girls in Rio are amazing. Rio has the advantage of having termas which a guy could spend all day in. Help Disco is amazing with it's hundreds of girls.

BA is a classy city. Rio is not. BA also has more European looking girls which I prefer. Rio has a little bit for everyone too though. I'd recommend going to both cities. You can take a 3 hour flight to Rio. Both are world class hobby destinations.

Good luck.

Andres
02-25-03, 13:45
Originally posted by vsg888
Was just in Nuevo Estilo Boliche (NEB) tonight. My first time in the place. Definitely interesting like the other posters have remarked.

This is my 2nd trip down to BA. I was down here last Fall and had a great time with the Chicas. Except for Black´s the prices and the Chicas were reasonable.

This time ... maybe the luck of the draw, but it´s been completely different:

1) At NEB, I was quoted 120P for 20 minutes and 220P for 1H. The Chicas were of decent quality, but this was one of the few times where I just walked away. The old prices were 60P for 30 minutes and I was told by the ¨matre de¨ that the price was 75P. Anyone else having these issues at NEB?

2) At Newport, one good looking blonde wanted 200US for 1H and another Brazilian blonde that I took back to the hotel wanted to be paid first. I followed Jackson´s rule and sent her packing.

Hopefully, things are going to start looking up. I´ve been towing the line with respect to these insulting price quotes, but it´s getting a little frustrating. How´s things with the other hobbyists?

1) To give you a different perspective, the local mongers who post on the Yahoo group mentioned that NEB is providing an increasingly disappointing service: Raising prices, treating patrons like pizzas deliveries, etc. Therefore, think of it as a place that is running down (both for foreigners and nationals).

2) From my point of view, Newport is a place to avoid.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Fat Bastard
02-25-03, 16:54
Don't know if you guys have been following a series of posts in the General Info section initiated by Roxana...Jackson's friend and assistant. Interesting and sometimes controversial reading/posts from herself and other mongers. It looks like Jackson has broken her off into her own section under Argentina....good idea. Keep up the great posts Roxana!

FB

JPF
02-25-03, 17:23
Even if the prices of chicas is rising at Nuevo Estilo Boliche (NEB) don´t miss the shows. We were there a few days ago and the lesbian shows were the best I´ve ever seen. Like right out of a good porno. Much better than the touristy shows in Amsterdam.

Also, the dances where the locals go up, pull down their pants, get insulted by the announcer and then get rubbed by a pretty dancer were a lot of fun.

Do any of you experts know anything about the beautiful chica that was an announcer for some of the early shows and then did her own dance? After she finished she went outside and sat with some older men. She never seemed go upstairs but I´m sure she would have many takers (including me).

CO2
02-25-03, 17:58
Since I enjoy reading the posts on this board, I feel obligated to post something occasionally.
First a quick hello and thanks to Jackson and Roxanna. And another thanks to Saint for helping me find alternative apartment accomodations for the past week.
Here are some quick notes from my stay here in BA for the last week.

Prices seem higher for the Chicas. Maybe my memory is bad, but it seemed like the prices were closer to 100p just this past November. Now they are closer to 200p.

Play Woman seems to have gone way downhill, very few chicas, and poor quality on top of that. I noticed a few chicas that were there previously are now at Madahos.

Madahos still seems to be the winner; at least in Recoleta (I have little experience in the Clubs outside the area). I was suprised that the quality of the chicas in Affairs seemed to have improved. It may be hit or miss, but it looked pretty good last night.

There is a new club next to Affair that has only been open a couple of weeks (at least that is what they told me). Don´t remember the name of the place, I poked my head in for a minute, it seemed like it might have some potential in the future.

I visited Closer for the first time. I thought it was kind of a Sh!t hole of a place. There was one cute chica but she looked bored and I could not shake troll who hounded me from the minute I walked in.

Having read all of the posts on Blacks, and this being my second trip to this great city, I felt that I should at least try out Blacks. I can clearly see why there is a lot of differing opinions on this place. Here were my observations: In general, the talent was high, much higher than other places. The customers there were moslty Viagra customers also. The chica I hooked up with was definetely hot. I would have taken this girl to my class reunion and made my friends drool. She wanted to talk USD I said Pesos, she said 400, I said 200, we ageed on 300. Yeah, it´s a lot but WTF. What I do like about Blacks is that you are not hounded by any "less desireables". They wait in the wings for you to call them over. This is a completely personal thing, but I happen to prefer that. Now for the rub - I had one beer that was included in my entry fee and one additional drink. The chica had 3 (non-alcoholic) drinks for a grand total of 235 pesos! Her fruit drinks were a whopping 60 pesos each. Holly Sh!t , that´s nearly 20 bucks each!, You would think that they would warn you at those prices. As for the service with the Chica, it was average, I´ve had much better at 150p. Will I go back? Probably not, not necessarily only because of costs, but there is definetely a feel of arrogance there that I don´t care for much.

Later

Andres
02-25-03, 20:57
Guillermo:

The group is called escorts59, but the administrator already banned the access to new members. As with many public groups, that one had a bunch of jerks who ruined it and forced the administrator to suspend new memberships.

As far as I get, 70% of the postings relate to info requests(e.g., "Did someone try Maria Antonieta of Chop-Your-Head Escort site?"). A few mongers give me coordinates that are valuable.

I believe that there is another group at Yahoo called gommaforever, a forum made up of dissidents from escorts59. You may try it and see.

If you have access to a Platynum forum account, you are lucky since you are able to read the girls subforum called "El club de las almejitas" ("The pussy club"). This subforum hosts the comments of the girls about customers (yes... the opposite of this forum). Unfortunately, Platynum doesn't accept new membersin the forum, so only those with former accounts are able to see that.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Guillermo
02-25-03, 22:21
andres,

Thanks for the info. I found the Platynum forum, but was too late to join. I will try gommaforever.

As usual, the few always ruin it for everyone else.

Guillermo

JPF
02-26-03, 16:24
Yeah Baby (or anyone else) if you´re interested in getting together send me a message at jpf2000@hotmail.com. I´ll be here in BA for another 2 weeks.

Jackson: I sent you an email about getting together but it was probably lost in the pile.

Hi JPF,

I remember your email, but I lost all my email the next day in another attack on my server. Anyway, I'm in the USA for a couple of weeks right now, so I'll have to meet up with you on your next visit.

Jackson

MrK
02-26-03, 19:51
Hey fellow mongers. After a long journey from the USA I am now in BA! Had to come after reading all the posts. Mayri set me up in a great suite in the Etoile and Roxana hooked me up with Belu. The session was good at 150p an hour and I definitely enjoyed it. I am going to wander around the bars and check it out tonight. Definitely agree with recommendations about Mayri and Roxana. Especially Roxana who is great! Will post more!

BA_Robert
02-26-03, 22:44
Originally posted by CO2


There is a new club next to Affair that has only been open a couple of weeks (at least that is what they told me). Don´t remember the name of the place, I poked my head in for a minute, it seemed like it might have some potential in the future.

I visited Closer for the first time. I thought it was kind of a Sh!t hole of a place. There was one cute chica but she looked bored and I could not shake troll who hounded me from the minute I walked in.




CO2:

Isn't the club next to Affaire named Closer? Or is it on the other side of Affaire?

I think Closer is a relatively new club. They opened in late October or early November (at least they claimed so). There was a bar on the second floor. They had approximately 5-8 girls but no customers. Could this be the new club that you referring to. Or is there another one?

Pahllus Maximus
02-26-03, 23:40
Any recommendations for a girl who will kiss and does anal, don't mind paying a bit more, just want a really good quality time on my first day, who loves her work. I am slim and very fit, very clean, just fed up with game playing US women and their fat, neurotic asses. That is why prostitution is illegal in the US - to protect their baliwick !

Also, what is te best way to access ATM machines ? I worry about bring cash because of security at Hotels.

Saint
02-27-03, 00:23
Hey CO2,

You're welcome buddy. I'm glad it worked out for you. Wish I could have been there to join you. Thanks for posting. I think it's always nice when guys "give back" to the site and at least post about their experiences. The vast majority of guys just take information from the board, use it when they go down there and we never hear from again.

Glad you at least tried Black's out if for no other reason than to determine not to go back there. It's a place people should go to at least once to see what it's like. There will always be debate on that place. They definitely rip you off on the drinks. One thing I learned there is that the girls will try to order all this exotic drink crap if you let them. I'm always upfront with them and tell them I'm looking for a good time and don't want to get ripped off. I tell them if I can't find it here then I'll go around the corner to Madaho's or downtown to Hook's. That will immediately show them that you are not just some rich tourist that has never been to BA before.

You all have to remember a big percentage of the guys going to Blacks are rich guys that are staying across the street at The Alvear Palace at $400+ US a night.

You might want to offer to buy them a champagne or some other drink that is the minimum price. But yes....you're gonna pay more at Blacks....

There are definitely better choices around town when you consider the value for the money. I hope we can hook up in May.

Saint

Andres
02-27-03, 01:23
Originally posted by JPF


Do any of you experts know anything about the beautiful chica that was an announcer for some of the early shows and then did her own dance? After she finished she went outside and sat with some older men. She never seemed go upstairs but I´m sure she would have many takers (including me).

Yes, she is the famous Greta. When she is in working mode, she drags a customer upstairs every 30 minutes. When asking her rates, she told me ar$100 for 20 minutes and no freebes. I passed.

From my point of view, she is very beautiful but her attitude sucks. She knows she is in demand and plays the diva role. Having many other girls available, I can skip her.

Hope this helps.

Andres

Tucker
02-27-03, 05:19
Stay away from club shampoo its scampoo. I had the time of my life in BA. I have been all over the world looking for the best girls the best night life at a good price BA is it. You can keep Thailand and all the other places like it. The club Girls are good girls the internet girls hit or miss more hits then miss. The food is great the prices good. The girls at Madahos are a lot of fun. Do not pay more then 150 - 200 peso for 2 hours in your hotel room or Apt. The hotels Etoile is a good hotel. When I go back I will get a Apt its better you can have 2 girls at a time.The hotels let only 1 girl at a time up to your room. I like 2 or more at a time. Get in touch with Roxana she is a big help. If you need more info E me thecrewof45@aol.com Tommy NYC

Yeah Baby
02-28-03, 00:57
One more day to go before the shagging begins in B.A. I'm currently in Santiago, Chile. Called Giovana from the Vip Area.com escort service, the section pertaining to Santiago. Agreed on US$150 for 1 1/2 hours. She showed up to my hotel room as scheduled. Face not exactly as advertised, a little older than expected but what a great figure. She is very athletic, tight body, great ass. Gives you a really GFE, not a clock watcher, overall, great time. Went two times with her and she stayed for two hours. Great shagg. Will be in B.A. on Saturday anyone wanting to get together let me know, will be staying at the Dazzler. Yeah Baby!

Leo
02-28-03, 02:56
pahllus,

as for the girl you're looking for, read the archves, they discuss many of the internet/club girls. they're are plenty that match your description.


as for accessing atm's, stick your card in the slot. i mean, accessing an atm is identical to as you do here in the u.s. you don't have to access them, just use them to wdl money from your checking/savings acct using your bank card. don't pay extra fees/points (other than the $1.50 fee you can't avoid in ba unless you have a bank boston acct i guess...) - don't use a credit card.

JPF
02-28-03, 18:26
Andres -- re Greta in NEB. That was very helpful. Thanks for that and all the great information that you have provided. I am most appreciative.

Quick report on boliches in barrio Flores: I was there a day too early (Wed. versus Thurs.) for the crowds. In La Nuit (the best I found) there were under 10 chicas but I was told on Thurs and Fri there are 30. The boliches are more like neighbourhood bars (which I like); much less flashy than the places in Recoleta. However, the chicas are also not as high quality. But I did win the game of pool that I played with a chica.

The entrance fee varied from 5-7 pesos. I took a girl from Envidia and there was no bar fine. It was 50 pesos for 1/2 hour (she didn´t seem worth more time and I was right). The attached rooms upstairs were okay but there was only one baño for the 5 room and the door didn´t latch let alone lock. So I stood there with one foot on the door while using the sink and the little hand towel they provided me to clean up with. Luckily the room was so small that this wasn´t much of a stretch.

It was an interesting experience but certainly not worth repeating. The other boliches I went to were La Fuente (too hot and smokey) and Liza (almost across the street from La Nuit) which was very small and only had about 4 chicas (and twice as many customers, perhaps because it was the only place without an entrance fee).

Damn JPF, you've made it all the way out to Envidia. Well, it looks like another one of my favorite, no-American-tourists spots has been unveiled. Anyway, it's worth noting that Envidia is one of the few places where you can take the chica back to your hotal room or apartment, although the typical fee is 200 pesos for 2 hours. They usually have a few questions before they will let you go (what is your address, etc.), and you have to pay in advance at the club.

The big thing I don't like about Envidia is that most of the business is 20 minutes for 30 pesos, the girls are high-mileage, and the unfortunate reality is that they actually only get to keep 20% of the fee. That's right, the girls get paid 6 pesos for 20 minutes.

Anyway, as always, I've managed to find a few gems in there, it's all a matter of patience and having a sharp eye.

Jackson

JPF
02-28-03, 18:47
I know this is very late notice but I have found a good English-speaking guide for BA. Tomorrow (Sat. Mar. 1) at 3pm we are meeting at the entrance to the Recoleta cemetary for a 3 hour tour of the cemetary and nearby area. Anyone interested is welcome to join. The cost will be 45pesos split among the group.

On Sunday we are going to San Telmo and La Boca. She hasn´t worked out this tour yet (she is just starting out) so will be learning as we go along. I don´t know the details for meeting yet but if you are interested send me a message (jpf2000@hotmail.com) and I will try to contact you.

If there is interest I can post her contact information for future reference (I don´t have it with me at the moment). I don´t know if others in this forum are interested in more than sex, money for sex, a place to have sex (i.e. hotel or apartment), energy (food) for sex, ___ for sex, etc. :-)

My friend Roxana speaks English and also does city tours every week, so let's not spend too much time promoting somebody elses tour services, especially somebody who doesn't contribute to the forum.

Jackson

Andres
02-28-03, 20:09
rob_roy5:

Most of the local mongers are married, so they cannot visit clubs at night. That's why their only "escape way" relies on private apartments during working hours.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Dickhead
02-28-03, 21:10
[Maria]


Originally posted by High on Hobbyin
To everyone on this board,
Thank you for all your help! I'm now enroute to BA. Thanks to everyone who has contacted me. We've all been talking and making plans behind the scene. If you didn't contact me you missed out on getting everyone else's email address and getting alot of additional information. But you're welcome to catch up with all 13 of us:

Board Members Dates in BA Accomodations
OutoftheGame…..7-18 February…Apt: Palermo
Elricardo…………….7-24 February…Apt: Puerto Madera
DannyBoy32………18-27 February…Apt: Recoleta
MRLA…………………..3-11 February Etoile
Ezy…………………….11-21 February.Apt: Recoleta
Dancesw/chicas…17-?? February
HighOnHobbyin…10, 14-19 Feb NH City Hotel, Etoile
JPF…………………….19 Feb–11 Mar (Apt: Recoleta x2) & Etoile
JBInput@?.com…17-28 February…Etoile??
Gabriel………………. 5 Feb-11 Mar Apt: Palermo
Octatron.............6-9 February....Dazzler
Elvis…………………21-24 February….Hilton or Etoile
thecrewof45@??.com…12-?? Feb …No reservation



All of these guys have come and gone. MR LA posted some good reports, Octatron posted some reports, but most of these guys never posted anything.

WE NEED REPORTS. Who what when where why HOW MUCH!

6 days and counting.

Come to think of it, maybe picking up streetwalkers really is dangerous because Octatron posted he picked up Maria but then he has never been heard from again. They probably eloped.

DH, on this we agree. I met most of these guys, and I know they had a blast here every night, including a lot of great stories and a lot of experiences that would have been of great benefit to many other fellow travelers. Still, with the exception of Tommy NYC's two line "It was great, I had a blast" post, NOTHING!

Come on guys, I know that each and every one of you benefited greatly from the information posted on the forum by others, so now it's time to make your contributions. Let me give you some good topics:

1. The afternoon several of you went to the Colimigus spa.
2. The early evening when several of you visited French Street.
3. The night two of you in adjacent rooms at the Etoil switched chicas at 4 am.
4. The night one of you went to the rock concert at the soccer stadium with your favorite chica.
5. The night one of you got so drunk that you started calling internet chicas at 6 am, and two of them actually showed up an hour later.
6. Chica Reviews, Chica Reviews, Chica Reviews!

Get the idea?

Jackson

Fat Bastard
02-28-03, 23:47
Jackson,

I like those suggestions....my preference is 3, 2, then 5.

The 4am swap reminds me of a college party where two guys were going at it with two ladies doggy style and on cue, the guys yelled SWITCH!...and did.

I bet Merium (the madame) at French Street enjoyed seeing all those guys show up.

And what's up with Octatron...where are you?

FB

EZE_Amante
02-28-03, 23:51
Originally posted by Pahllus Maximus
Any recommendations for a girl who will kiss and does anal, don't mind paying a bit more, just want a really good quality time on my first day, who loves her work.

Try any of the internet girls that list "servicio completo" in their ads for anal, or just ask for complete service from the girls in the clubs. I'm not really into it, but I've had it offered many times without even asking. Also, I have yet to take home a chica from a club or internet that didn't kiss me like I was her only boyfriend. Hmmm...it must be that they all are in love with me...yeah...I'm sure that's it... LOL

EZE :)

Dickhead
03-01-03, 00:33
You know, I seem to recall Octatron is a sailor so maybe he shipped out as soon as his visit was over; that would explain it.

Hey Fat Bastard, did you see where someone is posting on the Mexico board as FatBastard (no spaces?). Is that your cousin?

There's a couple new girls on my internet "to DO" list; I'd appreciate any info on (this is escortsbaires): Angie, Almendra, and Bruna. Also looking for a review of Anael who was on my list last time but somehow I never hooked up with her. I note that Gabriela, Kiara, and Aixa are all gone. I also have Sandy, Fer, and Gema on my list but they have been reviewed already. However, I have one question on Sandy. Normally I nix any girl who says she smokes. Sandy says she smokes "occasionally." How occasionally would that be?

BeachBoy
03-01-03, 00:58
DH,

Gabriela went back to Brazil for vacation. You know, the annual alcohol fueled run naked through the streets thing called Carnaval.... Most garotas make the pilgrimage which starts next week. I think Bruna is Brazileira too.

Anael is super sweet, and loves to be muy sensual. She'll spend the better part of a day/night with you and really get into an intimate mood. That's her thing. Not a bad way to while away the hours if you ask me.

BB

Fat Bastard
03-01-03, 01:05
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dickhead

Hey Fat Bastard, did you see where someone is posting on the Mexico board as FatBastard (no spaces?). Is that your cousin?[QUOTE]

I have noticed this guy before...he must be an Austin Powers fan like myself. I'm pretty much a BsAs-only guy...lucky me.

Concerning Octatron....your theory might be correct...it would explain a lot. I personally thought he had a heart attack after thinking about his romp with Maria.

Hey Dickhead...I am surprised you are doing Internet girls after reading your discussions of watching money.

FB

Dickhead
03-01-03, 01:33
[Maria]

Fatty, I think the internet girls are an OK value during the day for about 100 (pesos NOT NOT dollars) for one pop or 150-170 for 2 pops, with no "overhead" such as door covers and chica drinks. I might be a little more strict with them this time but I got good service from 2 and OK service from 1 (Elani). Plus it's worth a little to me not to have to leave my hotel in the heat of the day. Of course if I find Maria again or if Marta drains me completely every day for free it could be another story (BTW she says the sewing machine I bought her really helped her out a lot and says she has about half the money to pay me back. I'll see if she pays me back for it like she said she would and then I will give her back the money as a gift). Oh, wait a minute, no it won't be. Plus this trip is with frequent flier miles so I can spend just a LITTLE more.

BB, thanks for the review on Anael. I have moved her to the top of the list (called her twice last time but never got an answer). I also think Bruna is Brazilera as she lists that she speaks Portuguese. I am assuming all the girls who say they speak Portuguese are Brazilera unless told otherwise. So maybe she won't be around. I think I can make do. Never been to Rio myself.

I have trip #3 booked for SIX WEEKS in July/Aug. if United Airlines can survive that long, which I think the probability is <50% for sure. If they go belly up I guess I will stay in Mexico where I will be the whole month of June. My job don't pay shit but I love it anyway. Time off will get you through periods of no money better than money will get you through periods of no time off.

Tucker
03-01-03, 03:21
1. We went to the Colimigus spa. It was great, hand jobs for all 50 pesos swim, steam, 150 pesos.

3. The night two of you in adjacent rooms at the Etoil switched chicas at 4 am. Me and Gary switched our girls after the frist hour. I had a good time. Gary was shot after the first girl.

4. The night one of you went to the rock concert at the soccer stadium with your favorite chica. outofthegame. Mr. D's story

5. The night one of you got so drunk that you started calling internet chicas at 6 am, and two of them actually showed up an hour later. Yea its me. One girl came at 6:45 the other came 7:00 I got the 6:45 Chica out of my room quick to make room for the 7:00 Chica

6. Chica Reviews, there are a lot of Chicas Girls Hos what ever you want to call them thy are all good to party with you only need 1 ask Roxana for help if you dont speak Spainsh there are 1 or 2 girls or chicas that I will never take again but all in all I had a great time

(Sandy) from (escortsargentina.com) was the only girl that I did not have fun with, no kissing, no finger play, no fun, you know what im talking about guys.

The best girl chica i had was ELIANA from Club Madahos she did it all. Some girls like a guy more then other guys so see for yourself which Ho, Chica, Girl, is best for you.

All the best to all who go to BA have fun live life. GET SOME GOOD PUSSY!!!

thecrewof45@aol.com

Tommy NYC

BeachBoy
03-01-03, 09:56
Fat Bastard,

Re: "The 4am swap reminds me of a college party where two guys were going at it with two ladies doggy style and on cue, the guys yelled SWITCH!...and did."

Another version from those college days was the Rodeo! You would get naked with a girl, then get her on all fours for doggie. Put one hand firmly around her hip to hold on, then yell out "Rodeo!" And your buddies rush into the room cheering while you try to hang on to your wildly bucking partner. The objective is to keep the hand raised gallantly and stay mounted for at least 30 seconds.

Some girls did not find this to be very romantic. A few even complained and vowed revenge of some sort. Add this to your list of why men and women are wired differently and miscommunicate.

BB

Andres
03-01-03, 14:30
2 Tips that I saw in the Yahoo group:

1) There are rumors that the famous "Partenaire" (a club located back in the Roustique shopping gallery, Santa Fe Av. between Libertad St and 9 de Julio Av) will open again. Many Internet girls have studios in the building of the Roustique gallery.

Partenaire used to be n excellent place. But watch out! i also read that the police is plundering around the place looking for bribes from patrons.

2) There is a spa-massage center in the internet that shows itts girls (perhaps you already know it). Here is the page

http://www.biotoniccenter.com.ar/staff/staff.htm

Hope this helps,

Andrés

Guillermo
03-01-03, 15:04
Andres,

I've been gathering data for my own cross-reference spreadsheet for a while. I've been using the classifieds in La Nacion. Many of the chicas at Bonnefemme advertise there.

Up until recently, their standard price has been $100/hr. In just the last couple weeks, I notice the advertised prices on some have gone to $150/hr. Another chica who advertises regularly raised her price, but is advertising 1hr. 15min.

What do you hear from the local portenos in the Yahoo group? Sounds like inflation is setting in.

Also, you said that many of the internet girls have studios in the Roustique gallery. A studio is ... a private office to meet for sex during the day?... a place to display her artwork?

Thanks,

Guillermo

Andres
03-01-03, 15:43
Originally posted by Guillermo
Andres,

I've been gathering data for my own cross-reference spreadsheet for a while. I've been using the classifieds in La Nacion. Many of the chicas at Bonnefemme advertise there.

Up until recently, their standard price has been $100/hr. In just the last couple weeks, I notice the advertised prices on some have gone to $150/hr. Another chica who advertises regularly raised her price, but is advertising 1hr. 15min.

What do you hear from the local portenos in the Yahoo group? Sounds like inflation is setting in.

Also, you said that many of the internet girls have studios in the Roustique gallery. A studio is ... a private office to meet for sex during the day?... a place to display her artwork?

Thanks,

Guillermo Guillermo:

Clarin has the broadest selection of classifieds.

Local mongers inform that girls are raising their prices. Some of them, such as Agustina of Platynum, wanted to charge ridiculous rates of ar$300 per hour.

One of the boys who visited her mentioned that she lowered her rates this week to ar$200 per hour because she received more than 300 calls but only 5 customers since she posted in Platynum.

Local mongers believe that it is necessary to keep girls leashed in the ar$100-200 range, better if closer to ar$100, and I agree.


"Studio" means efficiency, or 1 room apartment (1 living space, toilet and kitchenette). In Spanish is "departamento de 1 ambiente".

Hope this helps,

Andres

Guillermo
03-01-03, 15:59
Thanks andres,

Hope you don't mind being our "ear to the ground".

300 calls, that's amazing. But only 5 takers. That's doing your market analysis the hard way.

I use the classifieds in La Nacion mainly becuase they are designed for data manipulation. With Clarin, most of the time the email function doesn't work, so there's no easy way to get the data off the screen.

Guillermo

Dickhead
03-01-03, 16:04
Guillermo, you are of course planning on posting the spreadsheet when it is finished? Right?

Guillermo
03-01-03, 17:02
Dickhead! Me Boy-O!

Sure. I'd be happy to do that. I'm not sure how, though. You can't post an Excel spreadsheet. I could dump out the data and post that, but there would be a lot of it. Not sure Jackson would appreciate my doing that.

And then, of course, it will become outdated very quickly unless someone continues the effort of keeping it up to date. Girls and phone numbers move around so quickly.

Right now I'm just gathering data, it still has to be massaged into a usable format. I'm afraid it won't be ready for your trip next week.

Que lastima.

Guillermo

Guillermo,

I've seen the spreadsheet that Andres was originally referring to. It was an Excel spreadsheet, and if you're planning anything like it, then it should prove to be a valuable asset because you can sort on any column, including the column with the phone number, and see what matches.

Anyway, if you get it finished, send it to me and I'll put the file on the website with a download link for anyone who wants to use it.

Jackson

Dickhead
03-01-03, 17:12
Oh well, I will try to struggle through with the info I have. Let me know when it is done and perhaps you can email it to me. I set up a special hotmail account for mongering purposes: richardhead41. Or perhaps you can extract a relatively small number of matches and post it in the General Info section. I think you can convert Excel data to Word's table format and that might post in some coherent format.

Here is what I will do. Escortsbaires has a rotation of 50 chicas. That is a workable number. I will pull all 50 chicas' phone numbers and see how many I can find in Clarin when I am down there. Then I will post any matches. That should save some mongers some money. If I can't find time to do it before I leave, I will do it in May because I have almost three weeks between when my job ends and when I leave for Mexico.

Exon123
03-01-03, 21:33
DON"T CRY FOR ME ARGENTINA --- I'll be down in April --- I'd like to offer my thoughts on pricing and especially at BLACK which everyone knows has the hotest Chicas but there again the highest prices --- This was my experience --- Try and hit Black on a slow night --- A school night so to speak, Monday Tuesday or Wednesday --- Pay the rip off fee of ar$20 which entitles you to one free drink and use that time,(you might need to buy a second drink), to interview Chicas --- Due Not Go In Horny --- Take care of your sexual desires before you go --- Go with the frame of mind that this is strickly a reconnaissance mission and your not going to get laid --- spend the time interviewing whats appealing too you and ask about pricing --- You'll get numbers that are sky high and simply say no --- Ask your prospective "Date" if she would be interested in a "nooner" the next day with the possibllity of lunch thrown in and get her phone number --- This worked for me with the hotest of the hotties and the price went from $300 to $150 for a full two hours and a beautiful relationship ensued which lasted all week --- Im with Dickhead it doesn't take any brains to spend money --- Hope some of you can benifit from this --- It work well for me --- Exon

Exon123
03-01-03, 21:39
Jackson --- I like many others would like to thank you for this marvelous board --- You've done a great service to your fellow mongers and hobbyest --- Truly Yours --- Exon

Guillermo
03-01-03, 23:16
exon123,

This sounds like the best plan for Black's. I have no idea, of course, because I haven't been there. . . yet. But other mongers have suggested the idea to simply make a date.."por la tarde siguiente".

My question is, can you conduct these "interviews" without buying every girl a drink? I don't mind buying a few drinks, but my understanding is that the chica drinks at Black's are up to $20 USD a pop. That could add up after a while.

Thanks,

Guillermo


The girls on Blacks won't talk past the introductions, won't sit down for more than 2 minutes, won't let you touch them, and most certainly won't dicuss prices or details UNTIL you buy them a drink.

Even if they already have a drink (all the girls in all the clubs can get themselves whatever they want to drink for free), and you start a conversation with them or invite them to join you, they will leave their drink at the bar (or the bartender will remove it) and then start looking forlornly at the empty spot on the bar or table in front of them.

Hey, it's a business.

Jackson

Sounds like the typical clip joint in TJ.

Guillermo

There's a big difference: TJ is a sellers market and BA is a buyer's market.

Steven
03-02-03, 05:56
Thank you all for your response to my questions last week. I will be in BA in early April. I am following the reports closely.

It looks like Roxanna is the way to get the best service for the best money. Does she have access to many girls or the same few? I am fluent in Spanish, though, and have had good luck in Tijuana Mex, as well as several trips to Asia, so I think I can "freelance" myself in BA and do OK at the clubs.

I would like a list of highly recommended clubs though, please.

Jackson..any chance of laying a handshake upon you while down there? It would be a real honor. Am also coming with my friend NanaMitch. Nana as in Bangkok, but thats a different story from a different year.

Jackson, was there a problem posting picutres? I emailed about 10 from my trip to China and Phillipines last summer but haven't seen them up yet. I guess it's a lot of work keeping the board up and running, even without posting pics. Thanks for all you do.

Bruno Eldorado

Travel to Monger
03-02-03, 16:09
JPF

You mentioned a guide that you were going to be using in BA, "...I have found a good English-speaking guide for BA. ... The cost will be 45pesos split among the group. ...If there is interest I can post her contact information for future reference." I will be in BA in a few weeks time and would be interested in hiring a guide/translator for a short time during my stay.

Could you post her contact information? Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Hi Bangkok Jim,

If you want an English speaking guide/translator then call my friend Roxana because that's EXACTLY what she does every day.

Roxana M: Email: roxanainba@gmail.com Cell Phone: 15-5103-3905

Thanks,

Jackson

ElKarl
03-02-03, 18:07
I'm planning to travel to Argentina in a few months and I'm interested to know if any one has tried any of the girls from www.escorts-argentina.com, the prices in the site reflect some numbers that I am not sure if they are dollars or pesos, I read in some message that somebody left a long time ago that the prices depend on the person (locals or tourists) which makes no sense to me, has anyone tried any girl fom this site? also what about the prices from www.platynum.com.ar?
thank you for the help.

Dickhead
03-02-03, 18:49
ElKarl and Big Bruno, if you will do a search, all these issues have been addressed many, many times.

BB, suggest you search the Buenos Aires forum, only, using "clubs" as your search term.

EK, suggest you select specific chicas from escortsbaires that interest you (or potentially interest you), then search the Buenos Aires forum, only, using the chica's name as the search term.

Hope this helps.

El Ricardo
03-02-03, 20:36
[Maria]


Originally posted by Dickhead
All of these guys have come and gone. MR LA posted some good reports, Octatron posted some reports, but most of these guys never posted anything.

WE NEED REPORTS. Who what when where why HOW MUCH!

6 days and counting.

Come to think of it, maybe picking up streetwalkers really is dangerous because Octatron posted he picked up Maria but then he has never been heard from again. They probably eloped.

DH, on this we agree. I met most of these guys, and I know they had a blast here every night, including a lot of great stories and a lot of experiences that would have been of great benefit to many other fellow travelers. Still, with the exception of Tommy NYC's two line "It was great, I had a blast" post, NOTHING!

Come on guys, I know that each and every one of you benefited greatly from the information posted on the forum by others, so now it's time to make your contributions. Let me give you some good topics:

1. The afternoon several of you went to the Colimigus spa.
2. The early evening when several of you visited French Street.
3. The night two of you in adjacent rooms at the Etoil switched chicas at 4 am.
4. The night one of you went to the rock concert at the soccer stadium with your favorite chica.
5. The night one of you got so drunk that you started calling internet chicas at 6 am, and two of them actually showed up an hour later.
6. Chica Reviews, Chica Reviews, Chica Reviews!

Get the idea?

Jackson OKAY, OKAy!! I PROMISE TO POST this coming week. I just got back and need to get caught up here. The one data point I will give quickly is my impression of SHAMPOO. I would tell everybody to stay away from here. I went in there one night with TommyNYC, and we shared a bill of 150 peseos for 3 drinks with chicas (in addition to our own drinks...right 50 pesos/chica drink!)we really didn't want to talk to in the first place. In addition, they were pushing for a "propina" as well. I grabbed Tommy and ran!

More during the week.
ER

Sabio
03-02-03, 20:45
A number of people mentioned that, every now and then, they slip into bare-back sex with a provider in the heat of the moment. Given the risks involved, I wanted to draw your attention to an on-going discussion about using recently approved home test kits for prescreening providers. The discussion started February 26 in the safe sex section (under special interests). We can definitely benefit from the experiences of some of the veterans here.

JPF
03-02-03, 23:12
Re: chica drinks: I usually ask the waitress/waiter how much the chica's drink is going to cost before giving the final okay. At the very least you will not be surprised afterwards.

And the drink prices at Shampoo are obviously not fixed. Last night it cost me 50 pesos for 2 glasses of champagne, one for the chica (30pesos) and one for me (20pesos).

Traveler0099
03-03-03, 03:23
Moondog:

Thanks for the info about Lara of Area-Vip.

Would you mind contacting me at traveler0099@yahoo.com so I could ask a few more questions about her?

Thanks!

Trav

Tucker
03-03-03, 05:13
Whats up guys I was thinking of some things to say about my trip to the best place in the world BA Arrrrrrrgentina:

#1 The chicas where great thy should be we are paying them for fun time, You get what you pay for.

#2 The friends the guys I met like Lloyd, Dave, Richard, Gary, Bill, Jackson, and Roxana that made my trip the most fun with out them I dont think it would have been so much fun and LOF.

#3 the woman will be there all the time but we are around for a little amount of time so dont wast time worrying about the small stuff.

#4 Have fun get some good pussy and the next day do it some more.

#5 Find some time to relax go to the Colimigus spa it a spa for men with hot girls to rub you down and up if you know what I mean swim, hot tub, steam, hand jobs from sweet chicas, only 50 pesos.

#6 Hook up with some of the mongers from this site and have a blast go to the Clubs get the internet girl of your dreams she might not be the one you want so what ....... do it all.

#7 If you need help call Roxana shes the best.

#8 STAY A WAY FROM SHAMPOO!!! trust me.

Tommy NYC

MoonDog
03-03-03, 14:15
Originally posted by Traveler0099
Moondog:

Thanks for the info about Lara of Area-Vip.

Would you mind contacting me at traveler0099@yahoo.com so I could ask a few more questions about her?

Thanks!

Trav Ok, will do.

Moondog

MoonDog
03-03-03, 14:19
Here is a question for everybody. Over the last few years, www.escorts-argentina.com has been the only website in BA that is 100% in appearance and the same girl that is pictured is the same girl you are dealing with with email and phone calls as there is no manager involved.

Lately I've been getting emails from guys who have said that they have had good experiences with www.area-vip.com.ar. I know they do air-brush their photos so that the girls look much better in photos than they do in real, and I know a few girls myself that are on there, and can see first hand the difference.

So my question to everybody is this:

Outside of YMMV, and personal interaction with these girls, what has been your experience with www.area-vip.com.ar? Have the girls been as advertised, and has any manager been involved?

Personally, I have not dated any of these girls other than the ones I have known.

I would appreciate any feedback that you guys might have.

Thanks,

Moondog

Dickhead
03-03-03, 16:02
One of the three chicas I called from escorts-argentina was *** NOT *** the same girl in the picture. But she was perfectly acceptable so I banged her anyway. The name was Kiara and I notice she is gone from the site now.

MoonDog
03-03-03, 17:15
Originally posted by Dickhead
One of the three chicas I called from escorts-argentina was *** NOT *** the same girl in the picture. But she was perfectly acceptable so I banged her anyway. The name was Kiara and I notice she is gone from the site now.

That's why she is gone now. Thanks for the info.

Moondog

Saint
03-03-03, 17:31
Hey Moondog. I just returned from London so haven't read any posts the past several days. To answer your question about Area VIP, most of the girls I have seen have been good. Of course, they aren't as good as their pictures but then again...almost every single girl out there on the internet is using her best photos.

You should note that some of the girls from Area-VIP also work in apartments for "managers". I always ask girls this. The ones I talked to worked in some apartments on Florida street for some lady that let them use her apartment. I guess it's difficult for some of these girls to get an apartment of their own. The two girls I saw both thought it was fair.

I've never had a bad experience from Area-VIP girls yet although I guess there could be a first time. Although once or twice a girl asked for a crap load of money and had some attitude so I passed on those types.

Also, it's important to take some of these reviews with a grain of salt. You gotta remember that each person's session is gonna be different based on a lot of factors like age, looks, hygiene level, etc. Some of these girls tell me that some of the guys they would never deep kiss that have bad breath, etc. Use common sense with these girls.

Good luck.

Saint

BeachBoy
03-03-03, 17:38
Moondog,

My impression is that the chicas on Area-Vip generally are fully independent. And photos are of the actual girl, though they are enhanced with PhotoShop to look more sexy and dramatic. (Colored eyes, fuller bust, slimmer thighs, etc. "Penthouse editing")

Most of the girls advertise on other sites as well, just compare the phone number or e-mail. At least half of them are on Platynum... check for yourself. Vera is Clara, Abril is Carol, Delfina is Nicole, Bianca is Wendy, Andrea is Lorena, Nicol is Bernarda et al, etc... It's a fucking circus with these aliases. I just refer to the person answering as "Mi amorrrrrr."

I have met with several, and the quality is very good. Be advised that many will ask for top $$ upfront. Area-Vip is to the websites what Blacks is to the clubs, and it breeds the same climate. I passed on several chicas because they held firm to US$100 per hour, often with $2-300 minimum for short term. Yes, US $$. Be sure to talk reality first before setting up a meeting.

In fact there is nothing exceptional or exclusive about the Area-Vip girls, you can find the same quality in clubs or massage parlors. So don't fall for the myth that the chicas command higher rates and exclusive status based on glossy pics.

Dickhead
03-03-03, 17:54
Originally posted by moondog
That's why she is gone now. Thanks for the info.

Moondog

What do you mean? Do you have some info on this? I never complained to the webmistress about it or anything like that; are you saying someone else did so they kicked her off? If so, that is very good.

MoonDog
03-04-03, 06:56
Originally posted by Dickhead
What do you mean? Do you have some info on this? I never complained to the webmistress about it or anything like that; are you saying someone else did so they kicked her off? If so, that is very good.

Adriana will not put up with any false information from the girls on http://www.escorts-argentina.com. She probably got a lot of complaints about her, and booted her off.

Moondog

MoonDog
03-04-03, 06:59
Dickhead, Saint, and Beachboy,

Thanks for the info. I will have to try a few myself just to see now. :)

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

El Ricardo
03-04-03, 12:46
Recently returned from two + weeks in Bs. As. There are many things I want to talk about, and its going to take several installments for me to get this all in. I met a lot of great guys from this Forum while I was there, including the soon to be famous "JACKSON" I enjoyed the times mongering with them as well as sitting over dinner and having some spirited discussions about whatever topic came up.

By the way, I'm not a great fan of the "mongering" term. I was thinking we're more like the sport-fisherman who practice "catch and release" with their quarry. Isn't that what we're doing out there? I know there are a lot of clever guys out there, so maybe with our collective intelligence we could come up with a term to express this hobby. Sport-__??____. Fill in the blank. What expressions are used to describe mans pursuit of women?

Like a lot of my fellow "sport-fishermen", I showed up with my list of 20 or so chicas I had taken from Escortsbaires and Platynum (Mostly from Escortsbaires because Adriana had warned me about the "many" of the girls in Platynum having "managers".) I would normally go to their apartments, and here's what I found from Platynum:

JARUMI, 80 pesos for 30 minutes/100 pesos for 1 hour, located at Ola Zabal 2371 Planta Baja/ there were other chicas here as well, so I assume its a brothel. No BBBJ, but anal was offered...can't really get into that yet! Good experience but probably won't return.

DENIS (Brenda from Area VIP) 150 pesos /can't find the address...sorry/ BBBJ, DFK. Also, there was at least one other chica there, so again, I assume its a brothel. Good experience but probably won't return

ANDI, 200 pesos, Paraguay 2081 Piso 2F (2nd cuerpo) BBBJ/ I think this was her apartment...nobody else around. Probably the most relaxed of the three of these experiences.

From Escortsbaires:

WENDY: U$S70.00 & U$S100. I saw Wendy twice while I was there. I've seen Wendy during my past four or five trips to BA, and she's always been one of my favorites. I gave her more the second time because of the longer stay (not a TLN, but close enough!) I have a feeling that she's getting further into the life-cycle of an escort and its wearing on her. Hard to see...I like her a lot.

SANDY: 220 pesos. I'm afraid MRLA's chocolate sauce treatment has ruined this girl for any other man! I saw her on a Sunday afternoon. I had sent her some e-mails and made these arrangements before I left. She showed up after a late night out dancing and was tired, hungry and, I think, a little hung over (she didn't want any part of the champagne I had there.) So, I took her to lunch, brought her back to my apartment, and she slept for about an hour. The sex was uninspired. I wanted to try her again, to see if it was the conditions, but better opportunities came along in the clubs (more later about these!)

MARIA CRISTINA: 200 pesos. This was an experience! Cute girl, a little older (like in her early 30's I think), and I think she speaks English. When I called, she asked me what I wanted (role playing?) While I was happy with a traditional experience (turns out she's into some fairly kinky sex) this was a fun experience. Also, since it was a Saturday evening, she wanted me to come back the next day and go to the Aquarium with her. I decided not to, but think it could have been a lot of fun. She showed me her website at: cristhinsex.com (she straps on a dildo, loves golden showers, lesbian...etc)

Okay, got to end this now. Power failure in my house, and I'm running on the battery in the lightning protection unit. More later
ER

El Ricardo
03-04-03, 12:49
Quick note to TommyNYC:
I enjoyed the times with you as well! I will do a trip to Argentina in April for business (very short times in BA.) I plan to do something around October/November (for vacation.) and 1 month in January/February (2 weeks of Spanish School, and two weeks of doing whatever I want.) Hope to see you there!
ER

ElKarl
03-04-03, 13:08
I thank elricardo for his info on the various girls and prices. A lot of people were helpful too but reading past posts isn't something that hasn't been done already................. and thus the quesions. I'll be going to Argentina in a few months and I'll try to give more info and rate some of the girls.
Thank you for the info ElRicardo ( Upper case letters, for a man with such info deserves it . heheheh ) Good day.

Hysteromania
03-04-03, 20:49
Not necessarily a newbie, execpt in number of posts. Been reading up and doing my homework and coming down to BA this weekend! Mar 7-10. Will be meeting up with a few people from WSG including Roxana but wanted to also meet others, either local or tourists also. Internet girls may write me also as I plan to use this service there.

I do speak Spanish and you can email me tambien en espanol. It will be fun to share experiences and stories and ultimately, offer each other pointers so we don't waste our time hunting around. Just remove the words nospam.

hysteromania[nospam]@yahoo.com

Traveler0099
03-05-03, 02:16
Gentlemen:

I was browsing the escorts-argentina Spanish site, and cam across this most lovely creature:

Agustina # 68

Has anyone seen her and can say whether she is devil, angel, or both?

Thanks.

Traveler0099
03-05-03, 02:18
Oops .. excuse the newbie...

The site was www.escortsbaires.com.ar

Thanks.

Jak
03-05-03, 02:40
#68 is a new girl posted sometime last week. I am on their e-mail update, and they send new stuff almost everyday.

Judd
03-05-03, 10:15
WSG forum,

First, I want to thank all the contributors to the board. I appreciate everyone's insights. This board has been invaluable for someone like myself whose planning a trip to BA next month. Anyone who will be in BA during April-May, please feel free to email judd2120@yahoo.com so we can meet for beers. I'm always interested in meeting guys who share a common goal...laying pipe to some of the hottest women in South America!

I hope to have some interesting stories for everyone next month. Though not as versed and quick witted as Dickhead (there can only be one!), I’m sure my tales will bring a chuckle to your face. It seems wherever I go, I always get myself into some sort of mischief and BA should be no different.

Judd

Andres
03-06-03, 01:32
Guys:

Some mongers from the local Yahoo group posted a comparative review Internet-Clarin, which is reproduced below.

Sorry, Jackson, for the long message.

Hope this helps,

Andres

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http://www.escortsargentina.com/entretenimiento/escorts/celestte/celestte1.htm

rubias 3 morochas 20$ ctes 1642 pb18 4381-0971 24hs
Av Corrientes 1642 14 222


http://www.escortslatinas.com/escorts/tatiana/
http://www.escortslatinas.com/escorts/darla/index.html

actual bailarina de "la diosa" pri/dom/hot $30 24h 4775-6271
S B de Palermo 1538 02 D


http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0016/book0.htm
http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0191/book0.htm
http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0334/book0.htm
http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0338/book0.htm
http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0342/book0.htm

ahora muñequita rebelde 22a compl buc s/glob1h30 4382-5878
Av Corrientes 1125 5 A

http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0335/book0.htm
http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0341/book0.htm

micaela du1ce y muy bonita bucal sin glob 1h$30 24h te 4381-6846
Av Corrientes 1125 05 A


http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0191/book0.htm
http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0508/book0.htm
http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0578/book0.htm
http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0580/book0.htm
http://www.gemidos.com.ar/rubro59/mujeres/melina/home.htm

akiara 21a en portaligas 95-60 95 prom$15 pr/do 24h 4371-6194
Lavalle 1735 5 B


http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0077/book0.htm

ceci *correntinita* $20 1 hora solo x la colita *4372-0179
Tgral J Perón 1509 2 A


http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0339/book0.htm
http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0337/book0.htm
http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0610/book0.htm

estudiante 21 rinden examen de colita $30 buc s/gl 24h 4371-7115
nicoll y cami locas por el sexo buc s/red 1h30 24h te 4371-7115
alemanita 21 rubiecita re-calentita 1h30 buc s/glob 24h4371-7115
Talcahuano 308 PB C


http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0604/book0.htm
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/escort/mujeres/belen/belen.html
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/escort/mujeres/brisa/brisa.html
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/escort/mujeres/carol/carol.html
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/escort/mujeres/sheila/sheila.html

aldana acabadora ver p/creer unica !!! $20 * te 4954-0230 *
Av Corrientes 1965 13 B


http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0601/book0.htm
http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0602/book0.htm
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/escort/mujeres/andrea/andrea.html
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/escort/mujeres/ayelen/ayelen.html
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/escort/mujeres/brenda/brenda.html
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/escort/mujeres/catherine/catherine.html
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/escort/mujeres/daiana/daiana.html
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/escort/mujeres/julieta/julieta.html
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/escort/mujeres/luz/luz.html
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/escort/mujeres/marisa/marisa.html
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/escort/mujeres/melany/melany.html
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/escort/mujeres/mica/mica.html
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/escort/mujeres/pamela/pamela.html
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/escort/mujeres/paola/paola.html

depilada ** bucal completo ** + aparatos $20 * 4952-8234 *
Av Corrientes 1965 13 B


http://www.altosex.com.ar/altos01/0303/book0.htm

caperucita 22 me deborás la colita? 1h$30 bc s/g24h 4372-0738
amorcito gozame ya probame y seré tu vicio1h30 bc s/g4372-0738
Sarmiento 1828 1 A

http://www.buenosairesintimo.com/antonella/antonella.htm

amorcito gozame ya probame y seré tu vicio1h30 bc s/g4372-0738
caperucita 22 me deborás 1a colita? 1h$30 bc s/g24h 4372-0738
Sarmiento 1828 1 A


http://www.escortsargentina.com/entretenimiento/escorts/cristina/cristina1.htm

ale **rubia enormes lolas** ver p/creer compl $20 4373-2798
Paraná 446 8 E


http://www.quefilitos.com/_cat/muj/ana/ind01.html
http://www.quefilitos.com/_cat/muj/gaby/ind01.html
http://www.quefilitos.com/_cat/muj/helena/ind01.html

anita * pelirroja * depiladita bucal completo $20 4952-3214
helena ** diosa rusa ** 24hs vale todo $20 4952-3214 a/ac
Pasteur 556 1


http://www.platynum.com.ar/entretenimiento/escorts/graciela/graciela5.htm
http://www.platynum.com.ar/entretenimiento/escorts/mili/mili4.htm
http://www.platynum.com.ar/entretenimiento/escorts/gabi/gabi6.htm
http://www.platynum.com.ar/entretenimiento/escorts/erica/erica1.htm
http://www.tramps.com.ar/mujeres/gaby2/index.htm
http://www.tramps.com.ar/mujeres/jenifer/index.htm

camila 25a profe de gym $40 veni q sudamos juntos 4372-2131
Lavalle 1768 6 65


http://www.platynum.com.ar/entretenimiento/escorts/marialaura/marialaura1.htm
http://www.tramps.com.ar/mujeres/marialaura/index.htm


celeste 25a bellisima modelito p/enamorarte1h$40 te 4374-6832
Lavalle 1768 1 7


http://www.escortsargentina.com/entretenimiento/escorts/cari/cari1.htm
http://www.escortsargentina.com/entretenimiento/escorts/carolyna/carolyna1.htm

florencia 23 muñeca rubia real ojos verdes compl $30. 4371-7549
Lavalle 1768 1 7


http://www.gemidos.com.ar/rubro59/mujeres/lachichi/home.htm
http://www.gemidos.com.ar/rubro59/mujeres/monik/home.htm

la casita del placer v.crespo $20 priv-do-fiestas 24h 4857-2571
Darwin 582

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MrK
03-06-03, 14:36
Just about to leave BA and I am going to miss this place. Stayed at the Etoile which Mayra got for me. You guys are right the beds suck. Contacted Roxana and she set up appointments for me and took me on a tour. I highly recommend her, she is a fountain of information about BA and I set up several appointments with her. All of them were fair to good. The best one was Sylvinia who gave incredible head. I went to the various bars and French Street. With the advice from this board I had an okay time and I don´t think I paid too much. I paid the standard 200 for a hour and a half, sometimes 300 peso for 2 hours plus the obligatory taxi fare. At most of the clubs, I only met Dominican, Paraguay and Brazilian women. I found that all of them were very open to negotiating but be sure to state exactly what you want. My one regret is that I did not get to meet Jackson and thank him for the forum.

Guillermo
03-06-03, 14:48
andresg,

Just a quick question about the addresses listed in your post.

I take it that people in BA follow the European address format where the street comes first and then the number. But what are the 2 values following the street number? Is it floor and apartment? As in;

Av Corrientes 1125 05 A, or

S B de Palermo 1538 02 D

Thanks,

Guillermo

ElKarl
03-06-03, 15:18
I have to say that jamesbond69 is right . Andres and elricardo represent what this forum should be. This two guys are the only ones that offer the real info, when I arrive in Argentina in a few months I'll be using that info to get some colitas, and I'll try some others as to offer new info.

I just have one question, how much more is for the girls to go to the hotel or apartment? I hate going to the chick's place. I'd enjoy staying in my bed and resting.

Good luck to all.

Andres
03-06-03, 16:37
Guillermo:

That's right, these are floor number and apartment.

SInce these data seem to have been taken from the newspaper, take the addresses with a grain of salt. The apartments may be nearby but not necessarily in that addresses, for security resons. Ask before going.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Dickhead
03-06-03, 18:17
Yeah, Unc. And what about Saint and Eze_Amante and EZ and MrLA and LA Larry and and and ... what about me? I gave plenty of who what when where why how much even though I am kind of a

Dickhead

I leave for Buenos Aires in one hour.

Guillermo
03-06-03, 18:17
Uncle Otto,

Your posts stand as a shining example to us all of the heights of monger reporting.

But, let's not also forget about our good friend Dickhead, who, as I reckon, should be on the ground in BA even as we speak.

Guillermo

--- Whoops, spoke too soon. Who will SOON be on the ground in BA.

Saint
03-06-03, 21:48
Hey Otto. Don't sweat it amigo. From my experience it's the guys that complain the most that never end up offering anything with their hobbyist brothers. The majority of the guys that read the board that take valuable information will complain for more, say they will post when they get down there, then we never hear anything again.

It's a fact of life. Most hobbyist by nature are lazy. Hope you're doing well. I'm headed back to Rio next week. It's calling my name.

Saint

P.S. Good luck Dickhead and have a good time for those of us that can't be there. Although we have different techniques and places we go to.... we are all in it for the same game which is to have fun. That's what life is all about. Life is good.

JPF
03-06-03, 21:52
On 3/1 Andres posted about the biotonic center (www.biotoniccenter.com.ar) a massage place that shows pictures of the girls that work there. I visited the establishment today and here is the lowdown.

The address and phone number are listed on the web site. It costs 50pesos for a one hour massage and then 100pesos more if you want sex. I made an appointment with Alexis (her picture is pretty accurate: big breasts and young looking) and she was at the door to meet me at the appointed time. She took me upstairs 2 flights to another apartment that had 2 small rooms, each containing a proper massage table (i.e. with a hole for your head) and a bathroom available for shower before and after your session.

I was looking forward to this because it is similar to the AMPs in San Francisco near where I live. Even the prices are similar (except in pesos versus dollars so a third the cost). However, the massage did not compare: it was only about 10-15 minutes long and Alexis is not skilled like the asian ladies in SF. The sex was fine except that doing it on a massage table requires considerable care (especially after all the crema she used) to not slip off and onto the floor. Oh, yes, the oral was covered.

So, I would not highly recommend unless you see a chica pictured who particularly strikes you. Plus, it´s available during the day (they close at 8pm).

MCSE
03-06-03, 23:26
Everithing is my own personal point of view, but the facts, of course.

1. Economics:
ar peso exchange rate is 3.1 / 3.2 . Oct 2002 was 3.8 / 3.9
Inflation has rised in commodities, real estate and other products.
In oct. 2002 the value for a 1 bedroom appartment in recoleta area near sta fe av. could cost
about US$15.000 and now the price has rised to US$50.000 for the same appartment.
However, some services still freezed or experimented very tiny small variations, as working girls.

2. Working girls scene:
You have three ways to classify the working girls:
The right way, the wrong way and MY way (arranged by price):

2.1. top Higher price, TV Star as escorts.
The cost depends of the client's wallet, origin and also face, they don't want to be treated like working girls, by the way I never made any deal with 'em but a friend of mine did.
So, they will be with you the whole night, you can go to top places, clubs, restaurants, then to your place and some fucking but the value in this kind of services is not the fucking quality.
Some girls speak english and they work for models agencies, TV shows, most have a degree or studies in university.
ages from 20 to 35 years old, some lives alone or with their parents, of course they have great faces and bodies.
prices may vary too much, so better imagine yourself. My friend paid US$300 per one night (9pm to 12pm of the next day).
what's cool: a real escort service, everything is nice.
what's wrong: too expensive!
MY quality evaluation: not available, send me US$300 to try and I'll tell you!

2.2. Girls from the cabaret clubs in recoleta area.
The price depends of the time you pick the girl. They are allowed to enter the club till midnight.
So at midnight you'll find the beauties but higher prices starting from higher prices about ar$300, but as the clock runs
prices are going down and quality girls dissapearing. IMO, the best time is about 1:30 to 2:00 so you can negociate the price to ar$100 (1 hour in your place)
Anyway, the bottom line is near to ar$150:
entrance to the club ar$20
obligation to buy the girl a drink $30
girl fee $100

what's cool: The places are full of good looking girls in different sizes, colors and shapes, I'm sure that at least one is of your taste.
what's wrong: Sometimes you pay a huge overprice for the same girls you may find on the cheaper departamentos or as independent escorts.
best time: 1am to 2am
location areas: recoleta / suipacha and cordoba / belgrano
-madaho's
disneyland of chicas, the place is full of girls, all kind and shapes. stripper show (the stripper has a great body and very sexy dancing but I think is not available)
If you have trouble, ask for Charly, the manager.
-extasy, hook's
the dancer never get naked, some very hot girls, some not too much.
-oro
oro st, two blocks from santa fe, (just follow the pimp allways in the corner) cheaper than the other clubs, girls are cheaper too, starting at ar$30, not too many girls but from my point of view they are the same kind of girls remaining in the other clubs after 3am but cheaper.
-corrientes near obelisco
if you go walking by corrientes from the obelisco to the river, there is a small door with a pimp offering you to enter this strip club, man! avoid it!

MY quality evaluation: girls are 50% foreigners and 50% argentineans, all sizes, shapes and colors. amazing!

2.3. Girls from bars daylight.
They start from ar$100, most popular are orleans (san martin and cordoba) and exedra (carlos pellegrini and cordoba), those places are called "confiterias de levante".
mostly older and uglies, sometimes it's possible to find a cutie anyway.
So, you gotta aproach to the girl and negociate the price and the place.
what's cool: you've got the chance to have a little conversation and time to evaluate your choice on the bright light instead clubs where the lights and drinks may confuse your eyes.
what's wrong: about 10 girls per place, they are 100% pros, some uglies, some oldies.
best time to hire: after 4pm till 10pm.
some phone #s:
Marisa: skinny brunette, 28 years old, tanned and very nice chica, basic english, a nice girl, 15-40633077
reccomended: orlean's
MY quality evaluation: 80% argentinas, 20% foreigns, many clients are locals so they have their favorites, chicas rotation it's not so often perhaps.

2.4. calling internet girls.
The prices starts at $100 (1 hour)
I have some friends who called and some times, if is the first time you call, the girl may never knock on your door, so if you are limited of time you better try another way or call roxana.
There is enough info about internet girls on this forum, so that's it.
what's cool: good looking girls delivered at your door.
what's wrong: some times the pics on the site are not of the actual girl, so they could send you a similar girl. Many times, you are not able to see the face when is an actual pic.
best time to hire: 24/7
reccomended: www.sensualbaires.com (mostly actual pics)
not reccomended: www.altosex.com www.freewoman.com (too many fake pics)
MY quality evaluation: IMO again, internet girls are the same girls of the departamentos overpriced.
Internet girls could be about 10% ucranians, 10% brazilian, 30% paraguayans, 20% from the north of the country and 30% from Buenos Aires (not so exact).

2.5. large departamentos
Price range from ar$120 to ar$70
About 10 to 5 chicas, they come in a row to introduce herselfs, saying their names then you say the madamme who you want to pick.
They have a suite, everything clean, a/c, no hurry.
To find just buy la nacion newspaper, ambito financiero, etc. keywords: vip, ejecutivos, 100, 70.
what's cool: the place is ok, girls makes a kinda parade dressed in lingerie
what's wrong: don't know yet.
best time to go: mon to fri from 2pm to 10pm there are more available girls and less hurry.
some phone #s: bonnefemme.com.ar santa fe av. 2820 2fl b.
avoid: cielo, florida 878 it's out of business

2.6. lesbian departamentos (tortilleras)
price range from ar$70 to ar$50
There are a few departamentos, beauty chicas, some works only from 9am to 9pm
They also have a suit, champagne or a free drink, and if you tip 'em a bit there is no hurry.
They are real lesbian, they use dildos, and you are allowed to fuck both. cool!
what's cool: do I have to mention it?
what's wrong: if you are looking a nice attitude is ok. if U want gorgeous-model's style body or just one woman, you better try another.
best time: camila and lorena 9am to 9pm, pasteur works 24/7
some phone #s:camila and lorena: 4952 5181, junin 347 4fl b (ar$50 per hour); pasteur st 430 6fl A: 48162207 (ar$70 per hour), about 4 girls.
location area: recoleta and once.
reccomended: camila and lorena, lorena is a real lesbian. She makes very dirty stuff to camila with her dildo.


2.7. daylight small departamentos in recoleta and downtown
price range from ar$60 to ar$30 per hour.
there are a lot. Search it under rubro 59 of clarin.
You'll probably have trouble if you want leave the place in case that you don't like the girls, so it's better give ar$5 to the madamme and say: i'll back later.
All girls you call will say : I'm independent and I work by myself, but sometimes that's a lie and girls doesn't fit on their description. Sometimes is true anyway.
what's cool: The price, of course!
what's wrong: Some girls are paraguayan or from the north of the country. Sometimes the place is too noisy, the bed cracks, they usually split a room in two and decoration is disgusting but depends of the place anyway.
best time to hire: 9am to 8pm
some phone #s:
daniela: 48242490 santa fe 3373 5th fl C (tight busty brunette)
avoid:
43429743, rivadavia av. 916 1st floor (very disgusting place, uglies chicas, the place smells)

2.8. daylight small departamentos, other neighbohoords
price range from ar$50 to ar$30 per hour.
there are a lot spreaded in capital federal.
Outside the downtown area, they are more easy going, locals who lives in downtown or recoleta find more attractive to go to a far place to don't get caught, ya know.
Same observations of previous item apply.
what's cool: Sometimes you may find very good looking girls and nicer attitude.
what's wrong: far from downtown.
best time to hire: 9am to 8pm
some phone #s:
segurola 1505 (miss the phone#), 4 girls, $40 1 hour.
romina, 46390423 (floresta)
beiro av. 4099, devoto, 45046980 ar$40 1 hour

advising:
risopatron: pasaje risopatron 111 (close to Rivadavia 10.700), good looking girls especially Gaby, long haired brunette, amazing firm taned body, great ass and excelent attitude, at least she pretends to be horny. 46411593
avoid:
timoteo gordillo 117, fat uglies for ar$30
gana 119, liniers, a pimp outside, ugly neighboohord.

2.9. evening streewalkers in flores
price range from ar$40 to ar$20 per hour plus the hotel.
for all streewalkers, it's better to drive a car.
There are some black and foreign from paraguay, santo domingo and peru girls, well, U know, just ask the price and have a nice session. good luck!
what's cool: what you get is what you see, that simple
what's wrong: streetwalkers sometimes they have bad behaviors, as spit on the floor, IMO they are ok for a BJ on your car for ar$7 late at night if you was unable to laydown with your girlfriend.
best time: after 6pm



2.10. daylight streewalkers in once square, constitucion
not recommended for tourist, but there are lots of streetwalkers, you'll find uglies, underage, fatties and that stuff, you arrange the price on the street, then you go to a closer per hour hotel (very dirty and ugly).
what's cool: to take a look of the porteño reality, the wild side.
what's wrong: you MAY be stolen, be careful.
best time to go: from 3pm to sunset
some girls: once (eleven in spanish): there is a girl who walks next to coto supermarket (underage) a cutie, I don't know the name but she is about 5ft, long hair brunette and pretty face, green eyes, sexy lips and big tits. During the summer I've seen her wearing light cloths, short blue skirt and a tshirt without bra.
location area:once is located on miserere subway station, constitucion is located in constitucion station of the subway
avoid: the grannies inside the once train station unless you carry a diving scuba for no breath the smell.

2.11. departamentos special offers
sometimes, you'll be able to find keywords as $10 also $5 in recoleta appartments.
the offer is for a BJ, and the girl remain dressed, a hurry BJ of a maximum of 10 mins.
what's cool: a blowjob for only US$1,60
what's wrong: nothing wrong if you analize the value for money operation. They allways begging you to take an expensive complete service.
best time to hire: 9am to 9pm
some phone #s:
48256250, juncal 2473 2fl C (ar$5 for a BJ)


2.12. clubs in Buenos Aires west suburbs
There is many post of boliches in this forum, so ya know what I'm talkin' about.
what's cool: you can pick the girl you want or not pick any, it's up to you.
what's wrong: a bit far from recoleta area.
best time to go: 12pm overnight.


2.13. moron
ok. this is a special item. Moron it's a city-neighb. outside Capital Federal.
This place is not a club or naked dancer's club. It's located almost next to the city hall.
Before you enter you must pay ar$8 + ar$1 for a condom, that payment includes a drink, ya better ask for a soda, what kind of wisky can they give you for that price?
when you are inside, there are some chairs, a couch, a TV with porn movies, a video game machine and the girls (2 or 3).
So, you are free to stay as many time as you want in the hall before or after you fuck the girl and the ar$8 stands for a "vaginal fuck" or a blowjob, it's up to you.
If you tip the girl with ar$5 once you're inside the room it's a complete service.
Hey, the girls are often pretty; sol is a 18 years old short hair blue eyed blondie, tight and sweet; Vanesa, also blonde, tight ass, thin, pretty, about 20 years old,
Marina, dark skin busty not so pretty but very hard worker, and so. Well, they are no models.
what's cool: value for money
what's wrong: well, 3 things:1, the place is so far from capital federal; 2, the clients; 3, the rooms are too dark and ugly, please remember me to ask Marta Stewart to redecorate the place.
best time to go: if you are really bored the round trip by itself will take about 3 hours. the place opens at noon and closes at midnight.
location address: Almirante Brown 1013, moron.
another similar (not visited yet) castelar, 52344101. (they explained me by phone only, seems to be similar)


2.14. cafe con piernas
cordoba and carlos pellegrini, cafe milano, you can take a cofee for ar$2, the waitress are lingerie dressed.
Hard to hire 'em as escorts, but, who knows.
This is a very traditional and extended business in santiago de chile, in Buenos Aires it's not usual to see it.
what's cool: see the girls in lingerie while you take your coffee. el sueño del pibe!
what's wrong: not a place to fuck or find girls.
business hours: 10am to 10pm
location: cordoba and carlos pellegrini, next to exedra and western union branch
there is another one in corrientes near uruguay st. but I don't remember the exact location.

2.15. how to pick a girl for free.
There are may ways to pick a girl for free that IMO it's allways better but sometimes not cheaper LOL.
Reconquista street it's full of pubs, irish pubs and some clubs. Locally called a "levante" area.
There are "gatos" (working girls) and women looking for fun.
Killkenny's it's a place for that, after work many locals go there to take a beer. The problem is that sometimes the place is full of guys and there is only a few girls, some girls are pretty anyway, some girls are called "histericas" stands for girls hwo
make you horney but doesn't fuck. waste of time.
what's cool: You can go there and take your beer easy and MAY BE some girl is interesed in you.
what's wrong: Shit! some times the place is so full, full of guys, and there is a fucking heat inside. They have a/c but seems the power & light bill is so expensive they put it on min. So fuckin' heat that you sweat like in a sauna.
best time to go:
On business days the places are often full of ties and suits.
anyway, the scene may vary according to the weekday and the hour:
Sunday, Mondays, Tuesdays and Weds, nothing happens.
Thursday: from 7pm, day of "trampa" stands for married guys and girls looking for some action.
Fridays: day of singles, hard to find one girl alone, coz they go in groups of 2,3, and more and they need to fit the same amount of guys.
Saturday: day of couples, nothing to find but a black eye for flitering a beauty commited girl.
location area: Reconquista st. from cordoba av. to Marcelo T. de Alvear.
avoid: the empty places.


3. phone prefix locations:
when you call a girl it's allways better she is closer your area.
48xxxxxx recoleta area
47xxxxxx belgrano
43xxxxxx downtown
42xxxxxx south buenos aires province


For additional info, or any assistance contact me at komposerteam@yahoo.com

Andres
03-07-03, 01:47
MCSE:

Thanks for your report. It covers almost everything!

One question: The place that you mentioned in Morón, is safe for going by car? Is it possible to park somewhere with security guards watching? Can you comapre it with a Flores place?

Thanks,

Andres

MoonDog
03-07-03, 05:22
MCSE,

Thanks for some good information. :)

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

JustGotBack
03-07-03, 06:00
MCSE, that was the best post I've seen in a long long long long long long long long long time.

Thanks.

JustGotBack
03-07-03, 06:37
After reading MCSE's most excellent post. I feel the need to go again. Does anyone know of any cheap flights for March? The cheapest I could find are for $800.

Saint
03-07-03, 14:04
MCSE,

What a wonderful, excellent and accurate post. Thanks for sharing the information with all your "brothers". Good luck with everything you do.

Saint

ElKarl
03-07-03, 14:14
I have to say that I am sorry if I offended anybody, I seem to have gotten some egos a bit bruised, it wasn't my intention. I , also, don't seem to be the only one that hasn't read all the posts, which I had but anyway, ... as I said I just found about this forum a month ago, I have never been in Argentina, at least not to monger, but now with all the info I plan to go very soon, and when done so I hope to provide with useful info. I have never demanded info , I merely inquired as to if such info was available or provided. I, like some of the the new posts , just thanked the new posts which offer current info to some of us ( in this case just me for the time being) who haven't been in BA.
I'll try to be more considerate of the old monger class.

Thanks to MCSE for the latest info. sin ofender a nadie

Andres
03-07-03, 15:21
Guys:

One of the non-written rules (or "good practices") of Internet forums is not to post comments that don't provide meaningful information or that could be controversial.

Posting one's judgements about who are the best contributors doesn't add anything useful to the average monger and only creates flame wars. It is like attending a literature meeting and hearing one person say "The best American writers are Faulkner and Capote". For sure someone would complain and argue that Bukowski is better than Capote, etc.

For instance, Saint posts and Dickhead posts are both intended to differente audiences. It's nosense to say that one is better than the other.

In brief: This forum will keep its quality if we focus on provide useful info and avoid judgements other than prices.

Andres

Fat Bastard
03-07-03, 16:45
MCSE,

Very nice and very thorough. You either live in BA or you've really done your homework. Thanks for taking the time to put together that detailed post. I would venture to say that several guys have already made plans based on that posting alone.


ElKarl,

Don't sweat it man....WE ALL step in it once in a while...even those of us who are overweight and illegitimate....meaning me!

FB

Boy in Lima
03-07-03, 16:52
mcse,

Can you expand your info on how to get hotties from TV?

Thanks,

Someboyinlima

OttoGraham
03-07-03, 18:28
People who don't contribute, shut the hell up!

ElKarl, you just don't get it. It's not a question of ego. I don't have one, not on the internet, anyway.

When it comes to WSG, I and the other contributors are fed up with people who come here, say "Gimme gimme gimme," and then offer nothing back when their trip is done.

Stop asking your silly-ass questions and giving us your uninformed commentary about whose information is useful to you. Read what's been posted. After you go down there, collect what your experiences are and post them.

Prediction: I doubt we'll read word one from you after your trip, if you're like 90% of the other posters with big opinions and a stiff dick!

Until then, do like 90% of the readers of this page do, and that is keep your mouth shut, unless you have some first-hand information to share.

-Uncle Otto

P.S. I am due back in BsAs at the end of the month. Right now, I am leaning towards keeping what I learn to myself. There has been talk of setting up a private Buenos Aires board. I'm all for it!

MCSE
03-07-03, 23:20
Hi Andres,

The place I mentioned it's 1 block from the city hall (municipalidad of moron), It's safe to park in the back of the city hall, I guess there are private parkings near the place. Best time to go there is from noon to 5pm on weekdays. Hey, rooms are UGLY. But what you want for ar$8?

Regards

MCSE
03-08-03, 00:13
Originally posted by saint

Does anyone know the property rights down there? Can Americans own property there? The most difficult thing would be finding a job in a city where there is 25%+ unemployment. Oh well, it's probably just a pipe dream but I still can picture myself a resident there.


Saint:
You can buy a house or appartment in Buenos Aires as a legal resident alien. If you want to buy a farm you've got to stand up a corporation that cost about ar$3.000 You can even get a credit mortgage in order to buy the house (I mean legally, since there is almost no credit on the banks marketplace, and high rates).

Regards.

Andres
03-08-03, 02:00
Originally posted by mcse
Hi Andres.
The place I mentioned it's 1 block from the city hall (municipalidad of moron), It's safe to park in the back of the city hall, I guess there are private parkings near the place. Best time to go there is from noon to 5pm on weekdays. Hey, rooms are UGLY. But what you want for ar$8?

Regards

MCSE:

For what you describe, it seems that this place in Morón caters to neighbors and commuters form the train station. If the best time to visit is 12PM to 5PM, then it isn't worth the try during nighttime, right?

I remember other places in the Gran Buenos Aires that were open at nights, like Imagina in San Miguel (the one of the famous scandal, now should be closed), Gustavito in Quilmes/Berazategui and Yamila and TBC in Avellaneda (both closed now). Do you know any other place in the Gran Buenos Aires that may be open at night?

Also, from your recent experience, it is worth to visit these places in the Gran Buenos Aires at night? I mean, does the cheap and relaxed atmosphere compensate for the risk of being robbed?

Thanks again,

Andres

El Ricardo
03-08-03, 13:17
I’ll try this again. I wrote this out once, and it was so long that my time had expired and I lost all the text. So this time, I’ll compose in Word and copy it to the Forum.

So, this is about my experiences with the clubs. I went to about 5 or 6 (Modahos. Playwoman, Hook, Catto’s, Cutty Sark and Orleans (or New Orleans…can’t remember)) of them during my last trip, and rapidly focused down to 1 or 2 of them.

I like the clubs a lot. It’s a refreshing change from the Platynum scene. While its not a guarantee, in terms of chica performance and delivery, the face to face encounter and negotiation offers enough clues to tip the scales heavily in your favor. The difficulty I have in them is the chica repeats…once you’ve been with one of them, they are ready to pounce the next time you show up in the club. Since I think I’m talking to “my girlfriend,” and its not a business deal, I find that I would do a repeat more often than not. Let me be clear: if the performance was not what I was looking for, I have no problem saying “hasta luego!”; but if it was a good experience, then, as one of them said to me, “How many different ones do you need?” There are lots of answers to this question!

Modaho’s: This one is my favorite. There are a couple of big bouncers on the way in, but they seem friendly enough…if you behave yourself! I would usually shake their hand and say hello on the way in. There was no doubt in my mind about the physical strength of these guys! This had, by far, the largest selection of chicas of all the clubs. If you can’t find what you’re looking for here, then you need a new hobby.

I went into this place about every night. I left with Patricia three times and Jessica once. Jessica is a petite Brazilian, blonde, with a killer body (physically fit…if you’re into large breasts, there are better choices for you.) I did not do a good job of negotiating with her up front, and got what I deserved: an antiseptic experience with no nothing!...sex in any position yes, but no oral, no kissing, etc. She was finished with me and bounding for the door. I told her I understood that kissing may be a little too intimate for her, but that was what I was looking for. She told me that she would be willing to do more as she got to know me better…perhaps we could go to dinner the next time? She gave me her card! Throughout the week, I had a chance to observe her with others, and I swear with one guy she was out and back in thirty minutes! She strikes me as a woman with a plan.

Patricia on the other hand was just a delight. I wound up spending a lot of time with her. We went to a couple of movies together, coffee at Monaco’s, and dinner once in Puerto Madero. Jackson actually pointed her out to me the first time I was there, and I was really grateful (Thanks Jackson!) Patricia is cute, with a good body, but her main asset is her attitude and friendliness. Eventually, she would just stay the night with me…mmmmm, what a great experience!

Playwoman: I tried this place once after it re-opened. It was quieter in here, but I found one chica I liked and tried to negotiate with her. She was okay with everything (kissing, oral, BBBJ) for 200 pesos. The stumbling block came when I told her I wanted her to come to my apartment. She wanted me to go to her hotel…at least the first time. I was nervous about that, so I declined, and left
Hook: There were quite a few chicas in this bar, and I found one that I liked a lot. She goes by the name of Merangue, but her real name is Beatriz (don’t know if its okay to put this in here …Jackson, you can edit this out if its inappropriate.) 23 years old from Paraguay. Just a sweetheart! Loves to dance, and I find that the way she moves her body to the music incredible…just mesmerizing! I wound up doing a couple of TLN’s with her, and in fact I missed my Spanish class one morning because she wanted to hang out. It was not a difficult choice: do I want to go to class and have a Spanish dialogue with the professor, or have a dialogue “en mi cama!”?

One thing I found a little unsettling about Hook was the lady behind the bar. She was initially trying to keep the balance of a hundred peso note as a propina after I used it to buy a cappuchino for myself and a Brandy Alexander for her. In addition, she wanted to come to my apartment after her shift at 4 AM. I felt she was streetwise and aggressive. I wouldn’t have felt safe with her, so I made sure I grabbed Beatriz at the first available opportunity!

New Orleans: This is a place to go during the day. It’s a bar/café, and there are lots of girls sitting around here…all available. Three of us wound up spending an afternoon here talking with three chicas. We were all set to leave with them, but they decided they wanted 300 pesos/person…so we left. I came back on a couple of occasions and eventually left with a Brazilian by the name of Carolina. Cute enough, but a little wide through the middle. My experience with her was similar to the one with Jessica above (no touching…she didn’t want me active at all!) I would not repeat.

Shampoo: Stay out of Shampoo!! My experience was: not many girls and we paid for 3 chica drinks at 50 pesos/drink!

Okay...gotta run. More later as I remember things to talk about
ER

El Ricardo
03-08-03, 13:30
A short follow up to my previous post. I was not clear about what we were paying. I followed Jackson's advice, and would start the negotiation at 150 pesos and eventually ended at 200 pesos. Carolina, at New Orleans, was 150 pesos (probably because we left her stranded the first time!) For TLN's it was generally 300 pesos (and perhaps a gift, or breakfast (or lunch depending on the time.)) When I got to know them a little more because I was spending a lot more trime with them, and got to know something about their personal life, I would give them a little more.

I try to respect the idea of holding a lid on costs, but I also know that I'm going to do what I want to do. So by negotiating the standard rate and following with a tip for being extra good ought to keep the price structure stable...if this is flawed logic, somebody better tell me.
thanks!
ER

MoonDog
03-08-03, 14:11
Chicas, backgrounds, and thinking with the wrong head.


With plans to spend a nice evening with a good friend in BA consisting of dinner, dancing, and having her spend the night with me, it was with eager anticipation that I called her upon arrival, and everything was set. On the flight down, I had met another individual who wanted to know the layout of BA as this was his first time. I drew him a few maps, gave him some pointers, my cell phone number, and told him I would try and hook up with he and his friends at Madahos about 1:00 a.m.

Upon meeting my girl, L, later in the afternoon, we went back to the hotel for a while, and then headed out to a small Chinese restaurant in Palermo. That was fun, and a change from the normal dinner meal in BA. We made friends with another couple and their family sitting behind us, and spent the evening talking and relaxing. With dinner finished, we headed out to Blue Bay in Recoleta, and then she wanted to hit Madahos with me to see if I could find the guys I had met on the plane.

Madahos was in full swing, covered with beautiful girls. I was good though, and did not turn my attention away from L except to look for the other guys. They were nowhere to be found, and after a while, I excused myself and went into the men’s room. These girls are amazing. The all saw me walk in with Luciana, but the second I was solo, the eyes started to talk. It was fun, but on the way to the bathroom, a girl that I had met a few weeks ago, S, saw me, and immediately put her arms around me with a hug. I told her that I was not solo, and that I could not see her tonight. The icy cold look she gave could have frozen a camel in the desert. A few choice words in Spanish flowed from her, and I politely excused myself before it got any worse. L and I left shortly after that.

Arriving back at the hotel, she told me that she could not spend the night with me as she had to have her medicine and had to see the doctor early in the morning. With disappointment, I put her in a cab, and sent her on her way. The following day was going to be busy, with me playing tour guide to friends that were going to be in town for a few days, and helping out another co-worker with the layout of BA, so sleep was in order, but not alone.

A few minutes later, I was back in Madahos, in the company of the beautiful ladies that were there before. Many of them had seen me with L, and they all started to smile I told them that she went home. Then S spotted me, and was hanging with around another guy, and gave me that icy look again. I pointed to her friend, and told her that if she wanted to go with me it had to be all night, and I wanted to sleep, after the sex. In 10 minutes, we were out the door (I love Latin America), and it was on the way home that I realized one of the photos that I had taken of L earlier during the day was still on my computer as background wallpaper. Ouch.

With all the advice I give about photos and other girls seeing them, you would think I could follow some of it. Not this time. I was hoping she would want to go in the bathroom as we got to the room, then it would give me time to change the background. That did not work, as she immediately wanted to see her photos from a week ago. Caught with my pants down, I just bit the bullet and turned on the computer, changed the background with her watching, and then showing her photos. She seemed to be satisfied to get L out of the picture, and I put her photo on as a background. Then she was happy, and agreed to more photos. The night and next morning was beautiful, and as she was getting ready to leave, she said that I was only allowed one chica in BA, and that was her. She had a sly smile on her face as she said it, but it was as if to say, “I know you will have more, just don’t rub it in my face.” I told her that if I only had one chica, she could only have one ******. She laughed at this, and we made arrangements for dinner later in the month, and went our separate ways.

I made contact with my friends, and we agreed to meet for lunch in Puerto Madero. Being tired from their flight in that morning, they were satisfied with just some pointers about the city, and some of the nicer areas to see. I filled them in, stopped by the offices of Platynum for a visit, and then headed back to Florida Street to use the internet for a while. It was now about 4:00, and my co-worker was coming over at 6:15, and I had to leave the hotel around 9:00. After a quick look on the internet, I walked up to the corner of Cordoba and Julio to the café Excedra. There about 10 girls in there, but one really caught my eye. After one coke, and a few minutes of conversation, we were off to the hotel. Ouch, I did it again. This time S’s photo was on the computer background, but luckily, J had to use the bathroom as we got to the room. That gave me time to change the background, and I began to wonder what head was doing the thinking on this trip?

J surprised me, as she immediately spotted the camera, and wanted me to start taking photos. What I thought was a very shy girl, turned out to be not that way at all, very sweet and nice as well. When my co-worker came over, she helped me with the maps and was very polite, just like a hostess. I thought how lucky I was to find her. I will definitely see her again.

This was just an amusing few days of events, and I laugh about it now, but wasn’t laughing at the time about my mistakes with the photos.

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

Andres
03-08-03, 15:17
Guys:

Below is a posting that I saw in the local board and that merits to be posted here. It seems to have been written by the Argentine version of Dickhead.

Enjoy it! (first Spanish, then English).

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Piratas,
Ayer/hoy no me banque mas la abstinencia pirateril (por recomendacion medica) me puse un parche y sali.

19:00 hs. Exedra
cerveza, gatos viejos. Decidi caminar por la zona y la verdad habia una mina que me estaba volviendo loco pase 3 veces enfrente de ella, la ultima vez la salude y ni bola (y bue era una mujer policia) pero estaba mucho mejor que los mininos que frecuentan esa zona.

22:00 Hs. Iberia (Av. de Mayo y Salta)
Otra cerveza esperando que lleguen los gatitos ...
23:00 Hs. aparecio uno (pero desastrozo) despues cayeron varios mas.. gente esta pais se fue a la mierda tambien con respecto a las minas. otra cerveza.

24:00 Hs. caminando por Sarmiento entro a un boliche (donde se baila salsa-merengue y cumbia, creo que sarmiento y uruguay). shampoo, enfilo para encarar una mina (a esta hora se me fue las ganas de garcharme una profesional, queria otra carne)todo de 10, esta es la mia dije.- y ella en el segundo shampoo me dice ¿y que regalito me vas a hacer?. Me vino la furia, hice un minuto de silencio y le contesto, mira eso me lo tenias que aclarar desde un primer momento NO 3 HORAS DESPUES LA &%&%(/&/)()(=, estaba buena pero para garcharsela sin garpar.

Salgo de ese lugar con el EGO partido y enfilo para Congreso y pasaba una señora (como una vecina de barrio), la encaro y le pregunto ¿cuanto me cobras para hacerme un FLOR DE PETE? (imaginense tenia aproximadamente 5 litros de solucion alcoholica en el cuerpo, ni idea tenia de lo que estaba haciendo) y me contesta hay no yo no hago eso -DAAALEEE decime cuantoooo - ayy bueno $10 - bueno dale aca en la CALLE -no vos estas loco y segui caminando hacia el congreso, y me dije ma si voy a los privados de
Av. Corrientes 1642, llego PB 18 1/2 $30 1 H $ 50 culo aparte, las minas estan -10 y le dije no consumo chau abrime la puerta, despues fue en el mismo edificio pero en 1 piso depto 23, habia dos solamente y una estaba buena y pase. $30 la hora.
Luz Rubia de Misiones Obera: una muñeca preciosa,piel suave, de cara pasable, pechos normales y una buena cola, si una muñeca, la guacha no se movia, el pete malisimo creo que me exita mas el molinete de los subte cuando me apoyo al pasar se fue el primero y unico. Juro no volver mas a estos PRIVADOS, recien ahora me di cuenta que tire la guita (y si, se me paso el pedo).

Bueno hoy a la noche voy a ENVIDIA (flores) despues paso data.

Saludos.

Sant.

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Mongers:

Yesterday, I couldn’t stand more the mongering abstinence (recommended by the doctor), so I wore an eye-patch and off I went.

7:00PM Exedra
Beer, old pussycats. I decided to walk around and I saw a girl that was driving me crazy. I passed by her 3 times, the third one cheering her but no answer (well... she was a policeman), but in better shape that the usual SWs.

10:00PM Iberia (Av. de Mayo and Salta)
Another beer waiting for the pussycats.
11:00PM The first one appeared (but ghastly), then several more. Guys, this country is on the pits also respect to the ladies. Another beer.

12:00AM Walking through Sarmiento St, I entered a dancing boliche (salsa-merengue and cumbia, I believe near Sarmiento and Uruguay). champagne (1), walk decided to approach a lady (by that time I lost interest in a pro and looked for another kind of meat) everything superb, “This is my opportunity” I said – and she told me after the second champagne “what kind of gift will you offer me?” I got the fury. After a pause, I answered her “look, you should have told me from the beginning, not 3 HOURS LATER HOLY SH%T . She was OK for action, but not for paying.

I left the place with my broken ego and walked towards the Congress zone. A middle-aged woman passed (as any neighbor woman) , I approached her and asked “how much you charge me for a GOOD DAMN BJ(2)? (imagine that I had almost 5 liters of alcohol in my body, no idea of what I was doing) and she answered me “oh, no , I don’t do that!” “CMON! Tell me how much!” “Well...OK, ar$10” – “So. OK. Here in the street!”, “No, you’re crazy”. So I kept walking towards the Congress and told myself “the hell…, I go to the private apts of Av. Corrientes 1642”, I arrived there PB 18 1/2 $30 1 H $ 50. Asses beside, these girls were a -10 so I said “I don’t buy, open the door”, after that I went upstairs (1st floor 23), there were only 2 girls, one of them good, so I passed. $30 the hour.
Luz, blonde from Oberá, Misiones: a beautiful doll, soft skin, aceptable face, normal tits, and a good bum. Yes, a real doll: the damn girl didn’t move, the BJ awful (I believe that the subway pinwheel excites me more when I push it) so only one pop. I swear not to come back anymore to these PRIVATE apts, just recently I realized that I wasted my money (and also... that my hangover went by).

Well this night I go to Envidia (Flores) More to come.

Cheers,

Sant.

Notes:
1) “Shampoo” is the slang for champagne.
2) Pete means BJ. It comes from “chupete” (baby’s comforter).

staticicon
03-08-03, 16:58
You have also EL JAPONES in San Miguel in front of the Campo de Mayo.

Guillermo
03-08-03, 17:06
andresg!

Thanks for the post. It is muy excelente! And thank you for the opposing translation. I know this is an English only board, but the more Spanish we know the better, and I don't think we will get the sort of specific slang that is the most helpful from our Berlitz phrase books.

One phrase left me completely clueless, "(I believe that the subway pinwheel excites me more when I push it)". What is that all about?

BTW, I notice a phrase quite a bit in the classificados, "Besos Negros". Obviously it means Black Kisses, literally, but how does it translate?

Thanks,

Guillermo

Andres
03-08-03, 17:07
Thanks, Staticicon!

Do you get there through Camino del Buen Ayre or through Acceso Oeste? I guess that taking Panamericana - Ruta 202 couldn't work since Campo de Mayo may be closed at night.

Would you dare to drive at night to El Japonés?

Thanks again,

Andres

Guillermo
03-08-03, 17:13
Originally posted by elricardo
The stumbling block came when I told her I wanted her to come to my apartment. She wanted me to go to her hotel…at least the first time. I was nervous about that, so I declined, and left

elricardo,

Can you talk about why that made you nervous. Obviously, anytime you go to her place, you are in an unknown environment and there are issues of physical safety. Is that a big problem in BA?

I ask because there are a lot of chicas who advertise "sola en mi departmento", or words to that effect. I take that to mean that you have to go to their place. Should we just eliminate those kinds of women from our list of possibilities?

Thanks,

Guillermo

Andres
03-08-03, 17:16
Guillermo:

I couldn't find the proper translation of "molinete" in the dictionary. When you buy a token or card for the subway, you should insert your car in a machine that has a bareer, which prevents entering without paying. The bareer is usually rotational, and in spanish a rotational bareer is called "molinete" ("small mill").

I guess that the guy meant that the girl was so unskilled in the BJ that pushing a subway bareer with his "member" excited him more than her BJ.

"Besos negros" means kisses in your "backdoor".

Hope this helps,

Andres

Guillermo
03-08-03, 18:05
andresg,

In this usage I think "molinete" would translate as "turnstile". For this phrase, that would make perfect sense.

Thanks,

Guillermo

Dickhead
03-08-03, 21:13
I arrived yesterday morning. Flight was a little late but the immigration line took an hour so instead of trying the bus I took a cab since I was late to meet my amigovia. They charged me 50 pesos instead of 35 in January which I complained about. My amigovia was not there to meet me at the Bisonte Palace. This hotel is not as good as the Dazzler, weaker AC, smaller room, not as good of a bed. But acceptable. I was very, very tired and wanted to sleep but then of course my amigovia showed up; she had waited for me at the Manuel Tienda Leon office even though I told her they would take me all the way to the hotel. Oh well. I gave her a quick pop, then she had an appointment so I had a few beers, then I gave her another better pop, then I napped for an hour and a half and met mongers Wayne and Fred. We had a drink at a tapas bar, dinner at Pippo's (very good and cheap), then arrived at Nuevo Estilo just before 11.

I liked this place okay. It was slow starting out, then some stripping (not a real strip tease but more like throwing their clothes off quickly to music), then the lesbiana show which I enjoyed. Beers were only 5 pesos. The girls don't approach you even if you make prolonged eye contact. I thought most of them were in the 7-8 range, few dogs, but few stunners. The "famous Greta" to me is just a 7 albeit a tall 7. So, if you want a girl here you have to be assertive. That is not a problem if you are a Dickhead. I chose "Betty" who immediately told me her name was really Andrea. Bought her one drink for 10 pesos and then asked about sex. 100 for 20 minutes or 120 pesos for 30 minutes. I chose the former. I thought the room was nice although I guess some of them aren't. Good strong AC, good bed, kinda blacklighted or something, clean. I took my watch off and had her suck me for exactly 9 minutes, covered, then had sex for exactly 10 minutes, then the knock. Didn't finish but really didn't intend to or need to. She was good and is recommended. Friendly, from BA province, thin, young (maybe 20-22 range), very nice bod. No whining for tips and no tip given.

Then I showed Wayne and Fred my hood in the microcenter. 3 AM and hookers at Florida and Paraguay but we wanted their cell numbers for later and they had none. There were two women talking on the corner of Marcelo T and I think Maipu and they (W & F) didn't think they were hookers so I proved they were. But although it was a funny conversation (the one doing the talking was eastern European or something although she said she would be from whatever country we wanted; I tried to get them both for 100 just to say I could but the better one was like 100 pesos is bullshit to you guys... she had big fake tits and fake blond and fake everything). Anyway we weren}t really interested, just screwing around.

Then today I took my amigovia, her son and her niece to the zoo and for lunch. She is back home sewing now, making a leather jacket for a friend of mine. I already had her mend all my clothes in need of such, yesterday. She is meeting me in an hour to spend the night. Tomorrow I am pretending to have an appointment so I will call some internet girls, probably starting with Anael.

Oh, yeah, if you buy the 100 mg Viagra it is cheaper and I stole a table knife from Pippo's to cut them in half.

It is still pretty hot her but not as bad as January. My amigovia's niece turns 18 this summer and is really cute but looks like she is 13 (they let her into the zoo for free and that is supposed to be 12 and under). So maybe this summer I will take her dancing after she hits legal age (for bars, I mean; too young for me!). She is supposed to be a very good dancer and has won some contests.

Your loyal servant,

Dickhead

El Ricardo
03-08-03, 21:20
Guillermo,
I was jittery because I was being asked to go to some neutral site...how did I know whether it was neutral or not? For the record, I frequently go to the chica's apartment. It's never been a problem, and I always feel safe there.

When I related my experience to Jackson, he told me that some of the chica's have experienced rough treatyment from some of the locals, and prefer to not put themselves in a risky position.

Even though I always feel safe in Argentina, I have had my pocket picked. There was a family of three and a taxi driver. The son came by and sprayed mustard on the seats of our pants (there were three of us,) and then the two parents proceeded to "help" us clean ourselves off. They were really good! Had my wallet out and back into my pocket, and I never even knew it. I lost $300.00, and my friend the same amount plus credit cards.

I related this story to a few of my fellow spanish students, and they passed it on to some of their friends, one of whom subsequently had his pocket picked the same way! Talk about a slow learner! This individual was induced to go down an alley with these people where they could help clean him off.

I took the time to put all of this in here because it might help somebody else (the last incident, with the slow learner, just happened two weeks ago.) Maybe it was the memory of this experience that made me skiddish about going to an unknown hotel.

I will still continue going to the apartment of a chica...no problem!
ER

Hysteromania
03-09-03, 00:18
Sorry I have not posted yet, 3 girls last night really knocked me out early this AM. This will be an abbreviated post which will follow with more details.

Like something out of a porn movie, I had absolutely mind boggling sex at Estilo Nuevo, hanging out with the likes of JPF and Dickhead which was cool as we all had fun there. Night did start out slow and when we ended up seeing guys being dragged on stage and disrobed instead of the girls panties coming off, I thought it was going to be an off night for us. Boy was I wrong!

The lesbian show as the climax got me really pumped up that I began talking to one of the two after their show and requested my own private show. I negotiated a price with her and her friend for 200 for 30 minutes, for BOTH! They both had great bodies, one nice and tall with long legs and the shorter one with real tits, although the dyed blond hair on each and the abrassive bald eagles while doing DATY or as I prefer, taking swimming lessons down at the Y. The one I spoke with first actually liked me and we hit it off. I was surprised to see her tell guys to beat it while we were talking. These Argentine guys tried to grope the girls as much as possible without taking them upstairs so I see Jackson was right about them wasting their time. She tried to get me to pay 300 for both but gave in on my second counteroffer and I could not wait to get upstairs. As I told Dickhead afterwards, that was more than I was planning on spending but judging that the USD equivalent was about $64 for a threesome with 2 lesbians for 30 minutes and doing both, what more of a fantasy come true could I have?!?!? And the show behind doors was better as they frenched but no licking like they did on stage. Dickhead summed it up nicely with the There is no fucking US dollar equivalent! Something like that in Vegas would have cost $1000 or so. The one I hit it off with first gave the GFE while the other one just kissed me back only instead of initiating it. I liked the first one as she had natural tits and looked like an Argentinian Pamela Anderson. Ha ha. Really.

I was so high on life afterwards decided to talk a walk on the dark side and visit the SWs around Florida with the guys. Not overall impressed so ducked into Hook to use the bathroom. Eyed a girl walking in and then she eyed me as JPF and I were walking out. Drinks are only 18 for her so I said, what the heck and decided to get her number. Met 2 girls there and planning on seeing them on Sunday, although not at the same time. :(
Took one back for only 100 pesos for "multiple rounds" which turned out to only be once as she she had to go back to the club before they closed at 6am. Promised she would come out Saturday afternoon but had to babysit her neice. Pity as I liked her. Short but cute and explosive like dynamite. Also a rarity I have not seen since Asia, she was tight and had some difficulty at first getting it in. Only been working 2 months she said. Seemed like it but the hustle about frequency and doing it later plus give me taxi fare really soured the moment. I had thought of actually keeping her as a girlfriend for the rest of the weekend but she blew it by wanting more money up front instead of earning more later. These chicks can really be impatient and foolish like that.

Have to be on good behavior tonight with friends from college days who are from Buenos Aires. Going dancing after a party but my mind will be wandering back to the lesbian show the night before and doing 2 girls, only the second time I have ever had a threesome but now I am hooked. Only downside beside the fake moaning and constant licking of my balls by the other girl to get me to cum faster, was the lack of time. 25 minutes into it the door is knocked repeatedly to get dressed. I just wanted to continue lying there with a girl under each arm and caress their round asses. Deciding on staying here until Tuesday!

Dickhead
03-09-03, 15:03
Ah yes, the old mustard trick. It is a mystery to me why anyone would carry any significant amount of cash in their pockets or wallet. Carrying a dummy wallet with a few small bills and expired credit cards is the way to go, and keep your money in your underwear or socks, secured with tape or rubber band.

Dickhead has never been robbed. A few have tried, but none have succeeded. Just some friendly advice.

OttoGraham
03-09-03, 16:58
There's no sense at all in carrying a wallet in a strange city, BsAs or another. And certainly not in the back pocket. I do carry one credit card and some local cash when I travel around, dropped inside a buttoned coat pocket or in the front pocket of my jeans/trousers. Nothing in back, it's too easy to be pickpocketed. The rest of my cash, my passport, and my other credit cards all stay back in the hotel's desk safe.

FWIW, guys, don't get the wrong idea and think BsAs is a dangerous place - particularly in the areas where you're going to be mongering, it's safer than just about any U.S. city I know.

El Ricardo
03-09-03, 17:14
What the two previous posts say is absolutely correct. The experience I related happened three years ago (ie its been going on a while and continues...successfully.) The one person in our group of three who was not robbed had his credit cards and cash in his front pocket, wrapped with a rubber band...infinitely more difficult to remove. I have since shunned a wallet for this configuration, and find I'm carrying much less useless junk as well!
ER

Saint
03-09-03, 18:12
I guess Dickhead would think I'm a "dickhead" because I always have significant amounts of cash on me when I'm in Buenos Aires. I've been down there several times and never felt unsafe, been robbed or attempted to have been robbed. Unless you are going off the beaten path (which it sounds like some of you might) you are perfectly safe. I feel as safe in Recoleta as I do in my city here in the USA.

For guys that have never been down there don't get the wrong idea. While I do advocate being careful and using common sense. I still don't personally know anyone that has experienced crime in Buenos Aires. I always keep my wallet in my front pocket and I'm fine.

Thanks guys for the nice reports. Keep up the good work.

Life is good.

JPF
03-09-03, 19:58
Hysteromania, you were the porn star of the evening. First the two lesbians. Then in Hook you said that you were tired and were going to leave but I knew that the chica had you in her power (at least for a drink). But getting the number of still another that night. My hat is off to you.

The show at Neuvo Estilo was even wilder this Friday than it was 2 weeks ago. When some of the local guys went up on stage to be undressed, their buddies started singing and jumping up and down like their football team had just scored.

Then yesterday (Saturday) was to opposite. We (a different group: Rob_roy and a couple of others without handles) were in Blacks, Madahos, and Newport in Recoleta and they were dead. Very few chichas. Cocodilos had about 10 women (not high quality) and over 50 guys. Salome had similar bad odds (5 women and 25 guys).

By the time we got to Microcentro the boliches were closed. The taxista took us to a place I wasn´t familiar with called Tres Botas. It was on Maipu but way south of Corrientes and the neighbourhood looked a little rough so we didn´t stay. But at 4:30am it had about 7 chicas (just okay quality) and no men. It had rooms next door but as we didn´t stay I didn´t find out the prices.

Chop
03-09-03, 23:43
Hey all,

I m one of those handleless guys that was out with J last night. Not much of a monger back home, and genuine a virgin to the scene here. I certainly can't add more info than J has, as I wasn't sure where the hell we were at half the time. How he keeps all the names, locales and stats straight is beyond me. I just trust to the help of the guys on the ground here, the honesty of the cabbies, and my own personal lifelong lucky streak. Workin so far.

So given that R & I can t seem to get hold of J tonight, I d like to give a public thanks to him for showing a newbie the ropes. Think maybe I neglected to do that last night. He went out of his way, and put up with my drunked up redneck BS, without breaking stride. Thanks dude!!

J, if you get this, me and R are meeting up at 10:30 sharp at his place. I know you know #exactly# where it s at. ;-)

Dave

JustGotBack
03-10-03, 06:16
mcse, what's the best way to get to that place in moron you described in your post? Taxi, train, bus?

Yeah Baby
03-10-03, 13:02
Just got back from a week of shagging in B.A. and here is the report. First of all, stayed at the Dazzler Hotel. The rooms are not big but adequate, the air conditioning works great , the bathroom was fine and the bed was firm and comfortable, and the room was cleaned every day and replaced with several fresh towels. The staff was friendly, never had any problems bringing girls into my room. The location of the hotel is about a dollar taxi ride away from just everywhere you want to go, in short, for the price I can recommend this hotel.

The Colmegna Spa is also recommended. The Spa facilities are a great place to relax on any given afternoon. Take in a nice steam bath, cool down in the indoor pool, take a nap next to the pool, have a massage (followed by a special hand-job massage - 50 to 100 Arg. pesos). Afterwards you can relax in thier t.v. lounge room with the massage girls, some are very attractive. When you are ready to leave thier are shower facilities with all the toiletries you'll need. Depending on what services you want at the Spa, a trip here will set you back between 50 to 190 Arg. pesos.

As for my reviews of escort services. overall, disappointing. All the pictures of the girls in the area-vip web page are without a doubt air-brushed, not a single girl that I called from this escort agency came close to her picture advertised.

Here is a summary of the girls called.

Gitana, much older than her picture, nice figure but so so in the looks department. Is and educated woman but I found her not much fun to be with.

Estefi, nice smile, pleasant face, average figure with sagging large tits. Although, I have to admit she did give great service. Anabel, this one by far had the best body and a very acceptable face but not model looks. She is young and her services were also very good. All the above forementioned girls performed oral and sex with condoms and charged approximately Arg. 100 pesos per hour plus some cab fare.

From the Platynum escort agency I tried only one girl by the name of Lorena. This was by far the worse of the bunch. Attractive brazilian girl with a great figure but was very business like and although we arranged for 1 1/2, she wanted out of the room after the first go. I would strongly suggest staying away from here.

Lastly, were the two girls recommended on this site (Lybia and Silvina). I met both of them and can recommend both. Attitude to please their customers is obvious from the get go with these two. Lybia is 24 and Silvina around 28, both had nice figures and gave complete service. Also, about 100 Arg. pesos and hour. Also, Lybia speaks English for those of you who have a problem with Spanish.

As for the clubs, Madahos ranks on the top of my list. Overall, had the best selection and quantity of girls. Visited on a few occassions and can recommend three girls. Barbie, a short blond with tits to big for her body. Moritza, a brunette, tall tan muscle/athletic figure, looks like she can break most men in two if she got you in a bear hug. Ileana, medium size girl, with balck her and full lips, likes her cleints to take pictures while she is performing oral acts. All these girls receive high marks for performing complete services and all girls were available for calling and seeing as an escort prior to 11:00 pm each evenning. However, keep in mind that these girls work to 5:00 am each day so they usually aren't available to take your calls until 2:00 pm. Services also run about 100 Arg. pesos per hour.

I enjoyed Hooks and Gatos. Ocassionally you will find a gem in these locations but more often than not Madahos was a better choice. As for Periplo, this a a very nice bar but most of the girls working here are over 30 but most dress in an elegant manner and that may appeal to you, I know I enjoy being with a woman that likes to dress well. At this location, I recommend Natalia, a short, very tan, long hair with curls. She is in great shape and not an ounce of fat on her any where, great service. Her rate was 300 Arg. pesos for 2 hours but well worth it.

As for the famous Blacks, oh how time has taken it toll on this location. Last June/July when I visited this location, you could spot several model type looking women working this location but not now. It is very disappointing, the girls by far are very disaapointing and after 3 visits I stopped going, not once was I tempted to take anyone out of here. I don't mind that it was expensive, it always was, but now its no longer justified. Other disappointments include Cafe Orleans and Newport. Went to Orleans on several afternoon trips. All the women here were well into their 30's and not in very good condition, as for Newport, never really saw any action going in this location.

At this point I would like to add that I live in a neighboring country to Argentina, accordingly, my going to B.A. is not a great ordeal and/or expense as it maybe for someone coming from the states. I mention this because in my opinion, if your coming to B.A. just for great looking escorts, save your money. Don't get me wrong, the girls of B.A. are, in general, friendly and are good lovers, However, if your coming because you expect to find knock out escorts your going to be disappointed.

Whatever you decide, be safe and have fun shagging.

Hysteromania
03-10-03, 14:53
Day 3, report second night out. Saturday did not count as I just got drunk with friends out in a place called El Viso, a place where people go out on weekends. As it turns DJs and the likes will rent big houses with a pool and lots of land and then advertise on the internet. At least that is how they knew about it.

Like a Master Card commercial....
Train to San Isidro to meet up with friends- 75 centavos
Bottle of champagne and white wine at local market- 5 pesos
Treating yearself and 3 friends you have not seen in 5 years to open bar for only 45 pesos ($15), priceless. I could not even buy a round of beers during happy hour in NY or pay cover for a nightclub in LA for that! Did not get any action but got way drunk as my friends would wait in line for me to get drinks.

Now for the monger report. Met up again with Dickhead and JPF who talked about having gone to Hooters in BA (sorry, could not resist to mention). Went to a tendedor libre, all you can eat continental restaurant and feasted on sausages, fish, chicken, steak, salads, raviolis, etc. etc. for the whopping total of 14 pesos each with tax included. At under $5 it was better than any Vegas buffet I can think of. BTW, in the neighborhood there around Uruguay and Corrientes, there are guesthouses with rooms for as little as 10 pesos. Legit places, not some crack house ***** motel by the hour.

My new hotel, Hotel Marbella was adqueate with 60 plus TV channels and strong AC for only 50 pesos!!! Still could not believe Castelar with 4 stars only hd ceiling fan and no AC. Told it was in the room but I searched everywhere for thermostat, even behind the bed headboard. Anyhow, after dinner, decided to see what was up that an apt girl I went to see before who was not there. Still not there again and although none of us wanted to go in, we were curious as to how the girls looked. Still not there.

Ended up on a side street out of the rain figuring out what to do as Sundays are slow. Got a flyer for a place called Queen and thought why not. Deserted and with a smoky mildew stench and no show so we left. On the way out, bumped into a tall girl with great legs. Caught my attention but it was the pounding rain and not sure where to go next that I thought let us go back inside and get the 2x1 drinks offer. Ended up chatting with the girl who did not work there as she was dressed in jeans and shirt, talking to the bartender. Got her to change into something more sexy and she came out with her shirt off and only a top with great cleavage. It was the shirt she had underneath really but what an absolute body. Asked her to put on a skirt but she said she did not have clothes there because this was not her workplace. Face was so so as her nose was crooked plus not a big fan for bangs as I think they make girls older than 15 look dorky. But those tits and legsssss, man!!

Bought a small bottle of champagne and talked with her a little in a semi private area. Made out and touched and decided since JPF and Dickhead were moving on, to bring this girl back since my hotel was close and it was already almost 2. She said she worked at Blacks and this was her night off. Since it seemed the field was open for fibs after what she said, I told her I was entertaining some VIPs and one was a diplomat who would prefer to remain unknown and that I let them leave just to be with her. She dodged the price issue after I asked twice and finally said her price quote, 300 pesos. My first dumb move as I may have been able to negotiate less in the hotel, especially if I had not fed her the VIP BS. She agreed that she would stay awhile, not just one time or one hour. I told her flat out I did not have much and mistake number 2, telling her the price was outrageous and not worth it. These girls get pissed about stuff like this and she went off about girls on the street charge less if you want that kind of trash and girls in clubs are classy and blah blah. My favorite line was I have many clients, none of course who were around this empty bar even though she reminded me about Blacks again. Apart from being friends with the owners, why the hell would she be in a dive like Queen otherwise?

Anyway, cutting to the chase, this girl had tricks up her sleeve I soon found out. Mistake 3, told her I only had 200 pesos on me which was true and that I still had to pay for our drinks. She said give me the money and I will take care of it as she could get the champagne comped. Waitress came back 5 minutes later without her and gave me the change (60) from 100 to me which my girl took instead when she saw this right after. I knew she paid as nothing is free in this town. Cheap but not free so I let it pass. Outside started bitching about the walk back in which I reminded her I gave her everything and that 10 minute walk was not going to kill her. Knew it was a bad idea to give the $$ to the girl at the club. Seemed disappointed with hotel and said she would go to the bathroom for a minute. I reminded her I wanted to undress her and to not shower yet. Yes, yes. She said and did what she felt like. Came out 5 minutes later with only her bra and thong which she put on again after showering. What a hell of a body. Absolutely stunning. I would give her an 8. She could have scored higher but her head was little whacked with manipulative mind games and it showed in her attitude. Believe me, when a girl knows she is hot, it goes quick to her head down here. Anyways, I showered and got to the action on the bed but she did not want to get under the sheets. Then I went to look for my condoms but she insisted on hers. Mistake 4 or 5, I dunno because I am losing track now. Condoms felt good when she put it on with her mouth. Too good actually. Got her to stop after a few minutes BJ just because getting too close. Condoms were lubricated and thin for extra pleasure. What surprised me most was the lubricado con silicona thing on the packaging. Not only that, before I put it in, she said wait and put on yet some more lubricant and told me it was female contraceptive. Right. All I know is I got a warm fuzzy sensation down there and shot my load in under 5 minutes. All these freaking tricks I began to feel jipped as I came without realizing it. I took it out and noticed I was drenched as if somebody had thrown a glass of water on me. My hand kept slipping and I could not get the condom off until the 3rd try.

Anyways, she lied down on her stomach and talked about how she had to leave and all. Got into another argument about that she charges 300 for the GFE and only provided half since I provided half of my end, just to show me the difference and that you get what you paid for. By this point with my training with other girls in this city, I countered each of her arguments which only seemed to piss her off more. Could see that she was going to leave at any minute so finished washing down my pecker and ended up dropping the soap about 7 times due to all of the oils in that area. This was some serious lubrications! Came back and got on top of her offering a massage. Got her to stay a little longer but then she decided that since we had argued a lot, maybe it would be better to stop as friends and go and meet up tomorrow for coffee instead. Gave me some BS about who knows, maybe tomorrow she would not charge but did want to go again today and that she was not working tonight, only made the exception with me, etc. In the end, I told her that with her bag of tricks, I should at least be able to have gone one more round. So she said fine, stormed across the room for her magic condoms and then began sucking me to get me up again, only using her hand more vigorously. Decided to penetrate so she got on her knees and said only this position, and wiped her heat sensation oil on me while I was distracted with the night table light. I do not know what that stuff is, but it could have almost substituted for sex as it gave the same feeling without all the risk of involvement.

I still doubt that she worked at Blacks however with her attitude and awesome body, she fit theprofile. Would I do it again, maybe but certainly not at her quoted rates. Ended up not getting her number as she left unhappy and by this point, I was eager to get rid of her instead of arguing more. I have learned sooooo much Spanish this way, it is unreal. Get a girl with a good attitude and who appreciates the money more is what I say. Leave the pros and swimsuit model bodies to others who just want the decoration more than the overall experience. Hell, I think I might have had a better time if she just danced around the room and I jacked off with that heat rising oil! At least I could have appreciated her body more. My head was so messed up when she left that I had even forgetten her name!

I guess outside of Estilo Nuevo, my mongering has been poor to mediocre. At least there, you do not have any surprises and know everything up front- how much time and you only go once. Plus, you pay 100 pesos instead of 150 and all of the lady drinks and do not get harrassed about tips or taxi BS!

Happy Cat
03-10-03, 19:16
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Yeah Baby
[i]Just got back from a week of shagging in B.A. and here is the report. ....

At this point I would like to add that I live in a neighboring country to Argentina, accordingly, my going to B.A. is not a great ordeal and/or expense as it maybe for someone coming from the states.


I mention this because in my opinion, if your coming to B.A. just for great looking escorts, save your money. Don't get me wrong, the girls of B.A. are, in general, friendly and are good lovers, However, if your coming because you expect to find knock out escorts your going to be disappointed.
]

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Dear YB:

It seems you are spoiled by Brazilian girls... Let´s switch places, stay a few years trying to find pussy in the States and we´ll talk again...

Guillermo
03-10-03, 19:20
Yeah Baby,

Thanks for the post. Could you give us some more info on Lybia & Silvina like a website or a phone number? There's no reference to them on the board.

Too bad about Lorena, she was on my list too. Oh well, yet another one to cross off.

Thanks,

Guillermo

JPF
03-10-03, 19:40
Well, in one day I was thanked by Chop (you are welcome dude; just trying to pass on all the help that I have been given by the more experienced) and outed by hysteromania for going to Hooters--what can you do.

After leaving hysteromania at The Queen and dickhead on the streets of microcentro (it is hard to find streetwalkers when it is raining but he already had had an encounter earlier in the evening after pulling an anti-dickhead move in a locutorio that I will leave him to relate, so he was not complaining) I went to Shampoo.

Sunday night after 1:30am it was pretty quiet: about 8 chicas, two slowly moving dancers, and 2 customers including me. I hooked up with Gloria (who is Florencia on Platynum). Again, to show YMMV: the bar fine was 50pesos (2 lady drinks) and the price for Gloria was 200pesos (down from her 300pesos initial ask). She stayed in my room for over 3 hours and it was a real GFE-very affectionate. Definitely not a scam like others have reported regarding Shampoo.

So, at least on this night I think that I had the better experience than hysteromania (sorry, I could not help myself).

Yeah Baby
03-10-03, 19:47
Hi Guillermo,

Lybia and Silvina are girls that are recommended by Jackson in his escort recommendation page for Argentina. The first contact must be made through Roxana but after this you can call the girls directly yourself. Roxana can provide the web page with pictures of these girls plus their description, sorry, I would give it to you myself but I don't have it with me at the time I am writing this report. Since you and others maybe interested in these girls I will go into more details about them. Lybia is 24, cute, thin with perky small breast which makes her look as though she was 16 years old. She has long black hair, down to her waist which she currently wears in a Bo Derek manner. She likes to have sex in most position but I did not try anal (not into it), she gives good head but with a condom but she lick and suck your shaft and balls for a long while before slippling it on with her mouth. Her english is very good, she's intelligent and she is fun to be with. Another friend of mine was with her as well and from what he told me, he enjoyed being with her as much as I did. She lives about an hour away from the city so you got to give her some time to get to your hotel. Silvina is a little older at about 28, she's intellegent and studies medicine. She's a short blonde, shoulder length, nice smile and good size tits but their silicone so you may not like that, I for one think that silicone breast are still one of the greatest inventions to date and as such I prefer augmented breast to no breast at all. She has a good attitude and provides similar services as Lybia. If you need a dinner date, Silvina is also a good choice because she dresses very well and will look perfectly natural accompanying anyone on a date. She maybe difficult to get though during the weekends.

One last piece of advise to all who are traveling in B.A., bring or buy plenty of gum or beath mints, most if not all the girls smoke and smoke heavily and you will feel like your are kissing an ash tray.

I hope this helps and have fun.

Guillermo
03-10-03, 20:31
Originally posted by Yeah Baby
Hi Guillermo,

Lybia and Silvina are girls that are recommended by Jackson in his escort recommendation page for Argentina

Jackson,

I'm sorry, but I seem to have missed out on that one. Where is this escort recommendation page for Agrentina?

Por favor.

Thanks,

Guillermo

ElKarl
03-10-03, 20:52
Go to the Argentina Links section and click on the site www.argentinaprivate.com, that is Jackson's apartment site.

Guillermo
03-10-03, 21:26
ElKarl,

Thanks. I never would have thought to look under "apartments" for "Chicas".

Interesting.... $250 pesos. Plus another $30 + pesos to Roxana to make the appt. Plus cab fare. My, how it all adds up.

Yeah Baby
03-11-03, 01:25
Hi Guillermo,

Let me just add my two cents about the charge for Roxana setting up the date and cab fare. It may seem that the expenses add up and are not justified but remember that sometimes trying to save a few bucks, and that what it is just a few bucks, you regret getting the girl that comes to your room. Remember sometimes things that seem like a good deal end up costing us more, in other words, pay 200 Arg. pesos for 1 1/2 for a hag and bad service or around 300 arg. pesos for a good time with a friendly chica. Also, I have to admit that I met and had lunch once with Roxana. Although my spanish is fluent and I did not need her services for translation, I did want to meet her and she was very nice and had some good suggestions. She put me in contact with some fellow members of this board that were in B.A. last week and, as a result, I enjoyed my stay in B.A. that much more. Also, other friends of mine that took her city tour though it was well worth the trip.

Also, if you get a chance to rent Jackson's apartment let me just say its in a great location. A friend of mine has been renting it for several weeks now since Jackson was away. The apartment has a very nice kitchen, well stocked refrigerator and from what my friend inform me, the maid refills it regularly so its never out of beer, water, and soft drinks and I can attest to that. Its walking distance to resturant row as well as the movie theaters, Hooters, Madaho's and the other neighboring clubs. Plus, the chicas love it because there is no hassels associcated with hotel lobbies. Last pieces of advice, go to Victoria's Cafe in resturant row for the American Breakfast (eggs, ham, cheese toast, juice, biscuits, etc.) and served late into the afternoon and the Immortales for Italian food, also on resturant row and both were cheap to eat at. Have fun.

Dickhead
03-11-03, 01:28
Originally posted by saint
I guess Dickhead would think I'm a "dickhead" because I always have significant amounts of cash on me when I'm in Buenos Aires. I've been down there several times and never felt unsafe, been robbed or attempted to have been robbed. Unless you are going off the beaten path (which it sounds like some of you might) you are perfectly safe. I feel as safe in Recoleta as I do in my city here in the USA.

For guys that have never been down there don't get the wrong idea. While I do advocate being careful and using common sense. I still don't personally know anyone that has experienced crime in Buenos Aires. I always keep my wallet in my front pocket and I'm fine.

Thanks guys for the nice reports. Keep up the good work.

Life is good.

I carry a good amount of cash, too, just not in my wallet or my pocket.

DH

Dickhead
03-11-03, 01:49
JPF, It wasn´t an anti-Dickhead move; it was reverse Dickhead. I was in the locutorio and was getting ready to leave. It was coin op and there was time left. A woman walked in and I offered her the remaing 12 minutes or whatever. Then I laid my usual line of crap on the married clerk, which she enjoys but is not going for. The woman heard my Spanish and asked me in English if I spoke English. I said (in Spanish), yeah, a little but not very well because I am American. She had just gotten back from Miami. We chatted a bit, me in Spanish and her in English. Then she gave me a card with nothing but her name and number on it and said in English: "I geeve you dis if you want to call me." I had already popped my amigovia twice so I said thanks, stuck the card in my pocket and left. My amigovia says she is going to screw me two times every day so I will not have anything left for other women but she underestimates me.

After lunch with JPF at Cafe Orleans, where all the women were chain smokers, I was horny again. Called Anael, no dice. Called the gal with card, Carina. She did not answer and I did not leave a message. Called Sandy, no dice. Called Carina again, left a message, and she called me back ten minutes later. I invested 9 pesos in drinks and a snack to see if I liked her and she was really nice. On the far side of 40 or close to it, very well-dressed, well-educated, and well-spoken, philosophy degree, blah blah blah. I suggested my hotel and she said you do know I´m working? I said yeah, I was born at night but it was not LAST night, so what is your "sueldo" (salary)? She equivocated and I said 100 was no problem. She asked if we were talking about dollars or pesos and I said pesos por supuesto; we are in Buenos Aires. She said, can´t you give me a little more, 120, and I will give you an hour and a half. I said fine cuz 1.5 is all I have cuz I had to meet JPF and (I forget his handle) for dinner, but it has to include X and Y but no Z. Fine fine fine and off we went.

Very good. Recommended. I will try to see her one more time and ask if I can share the number. She is a mature woman and not a hard body but very sweet, DFK, DATY until she came, BBBJ w/CIM no problem but I hardly ever do. Only one pop but what the hell do you want for round three of the day? All techniques were excellent. No rush, nice educated conversation, and she stayed two hours because JPF called and postponed dinner by half an hour, and because she liked me.

I spent all day at the prison visiting my amigovia's son and it was quite a sociology lesson. But that is unrelated to pussy. She is on the computer next to me. There are advantages to a girl who speaks NO English, especially if you are a

Dickhead

JustGotBack
03-11-03, 02:24
Hysteromania, how was the Hotel Marbella? Are they girl friendly. The price is sure right.

Frans
03-11-03, 02:44
Guillermo,

Regarding Libia, I don't know today but in February when I was in BA she was working at Envidia in Flores.

Andres
03-11-03, 02:49
Dickhead:

To what prison did you go? Devoto?
That place really scares.

Andres

Guillermo
03-11-03, 04:07
Originally posted by Yeah Baby
Hi Guillermo,

Let me just add my two cents about the charge for Roxana setting up the date and cab fare. It may seem that the expenses add up and are not justified but remember that sometimes trying to save a few bucks, and that what it is just a few bucks, you regret getting the girl that comes to your room.

You are absolutely correct. That fact is not lost on me. I was just a little surprised to see the prices laid out all nice and neat like.

Also, I didn't realize Jackson's apartment was so readily available.


Last pieces of advice, go to Victoria's Cafe in resturant row for the American Breakfast (eggs, ham, cheese toast, juice, biscuits, etc.) and served late into the afternoon and the Immortales for Italian food, also on resturant row and both were cheap to eat at. Have fun.

A place that serves an American Breakfast until late afternoon? In Buenos Aires? Shagadelic!!

Thanks,

Guillermo

Dickhead
03-11-03, 16:39
Originally posted by Andres
Dickhead:

To what prison did you go? Devoto?
That place really scares.

Andres Not sure. It was out east but still in town. Said Penal Federal No. 2 or something. It was pretty nasty. We had a special visit approved for 1PM and they made us wait until 4:30 and then we could only visit for half an hour. I had a gray T-shirt on and they wouldn't let me in with it (nor blue, nor black). Fortunately it had been raining earlier so I had a long-sleeved work shirt with me or would have been SOL. I got into a bit of a tiff with my amigovia because she wanted to take the shirt across the street and pay someone to take care of it and I said I didn't want to waste time since they made us wait so long so I just tied it to a railing outside the place. She said it would be a miracle if it were there when we got out and I said I know but I don't care; it is just a ratty t-shirt and whoever takes it needs it worse than I do.

I got fingerprinted on the way in and then again on the they checked it on the way out to make sure I was the same person. Also got a complete strip search (no body cavity search, though; that I would have had to decline).

The kid is looking at life and I was the first person besides his mom to visit him; he's been in there for nine months and finally has a hearing scheduled for May. Even his sister hasn't gone there. We just sat around chatting and drinking mate'. I had brought him a pair of my used basketball shoes since his mom said we had the same shoe size, and some shirts my friends donated (I brought down two huge suitcases full of clothes for my friend, who's a seamstress). He only took the rattier shirts because he said the nice ones would get stolen.

Not an experience I care to repeat but the kid (he is 21) seemed
to appreciate it.

Andres
03-11-03, 18:21
Dickhead:

I think that you mean "west", since east of the city is the Rio de la Plata.

If still in town, the prison was for sure Devoto.

There is a famous TV series on Canal 13 (I think) at night called "Tumberos", which describes the life of prisoners in Devoto. The bullies can bring girls to amuse them, while the weaker ones get raped. Nice to see the series to learn some Argentine slang.

Certainly, not a spa or a vacation resort.

Andres

Dashing Don
03-11-03, 18:31
Dickhead,
I just loved your report. Its a real slice of life in BA, which only about 1percent of posts actually convey. And putting your t-shirt on the railings is the funniest thing I've read in a long time. It shows that you are the type of guy that feels at home just about anywhere. BTW, was that you that parodied Nibu a few months ago??. I better stop this before you become "SwelledHead en lugar de Dickhead.(:
I read this board every day and have been to BA twice, back in the ninties. Normally, I go to Asia, and write before my trip and report after, with nothing in between. But after this report I felt compelled to write. Keep it up.

Don

JPF
03-11-03, 21:10
One of the interesting aspects about the boliches in BA is that the action seems to change, not just depending on the day of the week but week by week. Last night, a Monday, Madahos was really hopping. Almost as many chicas as on a Thursday or Friday. And I´m pretty sure that I was in there on a Monday 2 weeks ago when it was very quiet.

I am about to leave for the airport and home and would like to thank the fellow mongers that I have met up with on this trip. It made it much more enjoyable for me. And, of course, thanks again to the posters in this forum for providing such valuable information.

Dickhead
03-11-03, 21:17
Andres, yeah, I guess I meant west not east. I have a bit of trouble with the whole compass thing. If one is going south and one turns right that is west not east ... nobody's perfect.

Pulled a pretty good DH move earlier today. I've been sick most of the day but I felt a little better so decided to go get my hair cut, or what's left of it anyway. Afterwards I was sipping a few beers and wandering around and I was heading to this locutorio here on Suipacha to flirt with the owner some more. An older junk-type car pulled up to the light at Suipacha and maybe it was Cordoba or thereabouts and the driver was cute. I started my usual and I noticed the passenger (not as cute) had a pot pipe in her hand. I inquired about sharing and got invited to go for a ride. These girls were maybe 20 or so. The driver said they were just cruising around before they had to pick up Mom in an hour and a half.

So we cruised around and I made out with one for a while and petted and then they switched drivers and I made out with the other (but she kept knocking my hand off her tits). I haven't smoked in a while so I got really high. I did suggest my hotel but they were not having any. Nice girls and a lot of fun. But, I sure worked up an appetite, so I called Corina and set an appointment for 8 PM.

So just now I am in the locutorio (which is where I met Corina) writing this and she walks in! I like this town. She wanted to know if we should go right now but I just ate the V so said we should stick to the original plan.

DD, yeah, that was me for sure parodying Nibu; one of my better efforts.

I sure wish my guts felt better. Maybe I will apply a beer or two to the situation before Corina shows up.

Oh, and PS, my t-shirt was indeed gone when I left the prison.

JamesBond69
03-12-03, 14:44
http://www.area-vip.com.ar/mujeres/nicol/ingles.htm
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Nicole is pretty nice. Looks like her picture in person. Worth a session.

Dickhead
03-12-03, 15:08
I had another session with Corina last night. SHE brought ME a gift; a really cute little stuffed bull (because I am a Taurus). 2.5 hour session for $40 US but I gave her $45. Then she wanted to hang out some more and took me to an Irish pub. She lives very near Paraguay & 9 de Julio. I asked her if she wanted me to give out her number. She said it was okay. But I will only give it to people who are

1) known veteran posters who have not pissed me off in the past
2) into mature women (you should be at least 40, I think)
3) not going to pass it along to anyone else
4) willing to give me your real name or at least the first name you plan to use down there (I am going to notify her of everyone I give her number to), and
5) going to BA within a few weeks.

Backchannel me at richardhead41; this is my "warm mail" account, if you can figure that out. I will give it to a maximum of five people.

She does BBBJ and CIM and is the type of woman you could take to a show or out to a nice restaurant without feeling like you were out with some ho. I said she has a university degree in philosophy but I misunderstood. It is chemistry and she has a master´s in it from the University of BA and completed all the requirements for her PhD except writing the thesis.

Chop
03-12-03, 15:39
Hi all

Here's a little report from he ground in BA. I'll warn you right now though that I've no real "new" information to add, other than to say that right now it appears that Madahos is the current hot spot.

First off, as a newbie in town, I took the easy route to break the ice and called Roxana. Couldn't have been simpler. I've had more trouble ordering pizza delivery in the States. My laptop locked up in the airport leaving the States, so all my notes were gone. No names, no #s, nada. Has to trust to R's judgement. No problem. She sent over Lidia, one of the girls on Jacksons new site. I'm sure you've all had a look. As advertised, as one would expect. That site is, after all a Jackson production. My favorite line from R's phone description; "and of course, she know her job very well". Funny.

Next night I hooked up with some repeat offenders. Some stuff may have been written here on the board about this, but I haven't really been keeping up with my reading, so bear with me. Been busy doing other things, doncha know. ;^) The boys took me around the circuit, all the usual places. Got a good feel for how things actually work. Had a Peruvian girl glom onto me immediately on entering Madahos. Wasn't really into it as the Peruvian "look" isn't really my thing. Don't get me wrong, she was plenty hot, just not my type,... yet (wait for it). I'd also prefer to be the picker, not the pickee. So we blow out of there, and hit a few of the more obscure places. By then it's getting pretty late, which by BA standards means *really* late. Not much action, and we all wind up going home empty handed. (Or is that full handed? .....no, empty. I'll be good and goddamed if I'm gonna rub one off in this town.) All in all, I was cool with it, as I was reall just looking to get a feel for how things work, which I got, thanks to the boys.

Next night we're making the rounds again, and upon entering Madahos, the Peruvian is on me like white on rice. I didn't even make it ten steps into the place first. I had been advised by Rob the night before that I probably should have taken her then, and sometime later on this night he tells me (in that cool Italian accent) "I think this would be rude you don't take her tonight". She had a great attitude, and was a ton of fun just to hang out with, and as I said, pretty hot, so I figure what the fuck. 150p & one girlie drink later, we're out the door. Well, lemme tell ya, this girl loves her work. Y'all can say what you want about these girls being great actresses, or whatever, but that puddle she left on the bed was way beyond acting in my book. So, I may have to re-assess my ethnic preferences. Dare I say it?.....maybe Nibu is right.


This night I took the Peruvian, I had also been doing some serious eye fucking with this Brazilian. Now this one *is* my type. All the way. Lean, hard, and absoutely wild. This girl is bouncing around the joint like a tazmanian she devil. Oh yeah!!! I seriousely want a piece of that ass. So word gets over to her through her friend, who Rob was doing time with. Looks like an easy setup for the next night, untill the next night. All is moving right along per plan, girlie drinks bought, time to haggle price. It's me & her, and J and his prey. (I forget who J posts as, but he's the guy who snagged the 2 lez show girls on the cheap). I guess J's girl took his opening offer as an insult or something, and off she goes, and mine follows. I'm really not even sure if this is what caused her to bolt, all I know is suddenly she's gone. Then she starts with this pouty little "I'm hurt, and you fucked up, now you have to chase me around and make it up to me" game. Stupid me, I almost went for it. Took about 10 sec. to realise hey, I don't put up with this kind of shit from regular girls back home, I sure as hell aint gonna put up with it here. So, off we go, empty handed. This actually pissed me off so much that I woke up the next morning still pissed, which is very unlike me. Time to teach this little brat a lesson.

Gotta run now, time for Spanish class. Rest assured, there is more to the story.

To be continued.......

Dave

JustGotBack
03-13-03, 01:21
I have a question about bonnefemme as listed in MCSE's awesome report. I checked out the website and it looks good. Can I just drop by or do I need to make an appt first?

Also, I'm looking for recommendations for a double girl session and girls willing to do CIM.

Andres
03-13-03, 02:01
justgotback:

You may need to do an appointment (I needed so back in January). I believe that the agency is merely an intermediary between independent escorts and customers.

As far as Celeste, she does it covered, but Sol (which is the Sol of Salome that I reported in December/January) did allow CIM. However, YMMV, as usual.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Hysteromania
03-13-03, 10:24
Originally posted by justgotback
Hysteromania, how was the Hotel Marbella? Are they girl friendly. The price is sure right.

Yes, very girl friendly. Hotel clerk came down the stairs to open and hold the door for her. ;) Then again, the 2 girls I brought there were near my age so did it have that whorish look to them.
Went to play pool early that evening with the first girl I met at Hook who I did not take home. Seeing her in the daylight, glad I did not do her! And at local cafeteria near my hotel, got stares from older couples and even the waiter. Dyed blonde hair, big breasts and seductive top really spelled it out and I almost was embarrassed to be with her for a minute.

Now back to Hotel Marbella, beds are new and girls enjoyed the balcony view with a glimpse of the Congresos building. A lot of light and if you get really bored during the day, you can watch your neighbors across the street through the windows. Beds were very firm so no noisy creaking and good support. Really nice neighborhood as less touristy, great prices on everything (pizza for less than 33 cents a slice!) and apart from quite, really safe.

About 5 blocks over on Corrientes 1642, went to the apartment girls in the afternoon and had Andrea, 21 year old with nice tight body but stupid looking colored highlights in her hair. Went one round with her for only 25 pesos for almost 30 minutes. Gave GFE and although thought she was okay and clean, place seemed dark and dirty. No shower before or after so preferred not to do the full hour thing. All in all, still not bad considering the under $10 USD price tag (wow!!) and she was cute enough to work at one of the clubs. 2 other girls there but they did not seem as attractive, too professional looking and wasting away watching tv and smoking so probably a poorer attitude. They are open from noon to 8pm almost everyday except Sunday it seems.

Last night in BA (Monday) however was best so far. Had a really nice girl from Madahos who I met at 4am. She had already gone out that night and was not as interested in $$ again. Perfect as I had already overshot my budget since I had already been with about 5 women that weekend in addition to shopping, dining, etc. Seemed a little intoxicated but all the least, a fantastic personality. Danced a little bit, bought her champagne and then went back for supposedly an hour but stayed about 2 and half, talking and laughing afterwards and taking pictures. BBBJ and could have CIM but wanted to continue kissing her soft sensual lips over and over again. So now stuck with dilemma, should I tell her name so others at Madahos can enjoy her as well since she just started this week or should I keep her for myself?!? Decisions, decisions. Gave her all I had left although I believe she deserved more and she still offered me some back to get taxi or breakfast tomorrow. No worry, I will go to ATM but did request # and email as I definitely want to keep in touch. I will definitely be seeing her again. The best experience is one where the girl does not rush you and you feel at that moment in time, like the person in the world to her. It is an experience I have not had since the Philippines or maybe a few times in Thailand.

Overall, night was great too as got to see rooftop terrace view from Etoile Hotel and meet up with YPF and 2 new mongers. Had a great dinner down at Puerto Cristal in Puerto Madero which is a great place to take a date, making a mental note to do so next time. Complimentary champagne, all out professionalism and attention to detail in addition to fine dining with view of water. All of us had a good time later and got we wanted at Madahos as it seemed after a couple of lady drinks with 2 other girls, I was wasting my time as girls were shooting for the stars. No foreseen problems and no bullshit with the girls, just people out having fun which is the way things should be. Come on down to BA while the city is still on sale and good times are still to be had. Who knows how this will develop into saturation or jaded like Bangkok or something and become less interesting. And if you do have a bad experience with a girl or two, shake it off and move on. There really are some hidden gems down here.
Arguing with the girls will only cause them to argue more so it is best to move on. There are plenty of girls down here and found March to be much better for hunting than February, at least all of the students are back in town!

Chop
03-13-03, 14:27
So, another night, another adventure.

Me & RO plan to go out and hit Black right at the start of prime time. Window shopping only. The idea is to check out what kind of talent is really there, as compared to the other places. We hit there at about 10 after 12. This turned out to be perfect timing. I won't try to estimate what the ratios were, but it was pretty damm good, and it was crowded. We hung out in front of the dance floor, in a sea of fine ass. What guys that were there mostly were at the bar, or back against the walls. It actually rather reminded me of the classic high school dance scenario. All the boys on one side, and the girls on the other. Kind of silly really. We were much too smart for that shit, and hung out right in the middle of all the girls. After having seen it first hand, I think I'm safe in saying all this talk of finding girls just as good as Black's at other places is a bunch of crap. Now granted, you may find a *few* quality girls somewhere else, but they're going to be the first to go. Nothing like the the sheer quantity of quality at Black. Now having sad that, we had no intention of getting gouged at the prime time prices. RO says he wants to come back at the end of the night and make a lowball offer just to see what happens. Sounds like an amusing plan to me so, off we go to kill some time.

Fast forward to Madaho.

This is getting to be a bad habit. I comment on the way in that we're getting to be regulars at this joint. Sure enough, about an hour ago I was talking to a guy at my 'lil Spanish school (who we saw in there last night), and he said the girls there told him "yeah, those guys are in here every night". Oh well, if you're gonna have a bad habit, might as well make it a fun one.

So we kick back and take in the scene. We were in a pretty good position to watch the comings and goings, and I noticed that there weren't a whole lot of deals being consummated. I mean considering the sheer # of both buyers and sellers there, you would think that more girls would get taken out of the place. I saw 5 max. Even if I only caught 25%, those #s aint good. Got me to thinking, how many nights do each of these girls have to spend here before they make *one* deal. I would think that they'd be under a little more pressure to come off the ask.

As an aside; if you add in the buy pressures, i.e. "I'd better get that one before someone else does", and the house taking a cut (read: commission), fluidity of price, etc., the parallels to the open outcry trading in the Chicago commodity pits become quite stark, but I digress....

So, we're hanging out in Madaho, and I'm thinking a couple of things. First of all, I went home solo last night. I will *not* do so again tonight. Also, we're going back to Black for a little low ballin' fun, so I aint taking anything right now. I've also figured out that this is really a buyers market (see above), and little tazmainian shedevil is starting her shit again. Hehehe.....a plan begins to form.

Oh....that reminds me. J saw her dancing a few nights back and said she was rubbing rubbing her pussy like she had a yeast infection. I said, "Dude, don't ruin it for me!!". Later, after watching her spaz around the place for a bit, he said he had her pegged as a fucking machine. We gave her a new handle on the spot, and had a good laugh. Henceforth she will be referred to as "The Bread Machine".

So The Bread Machine is playing her little brat bullshit game again. We've already made it clear that we're not buyers at the moment (gotta go back to Black, but they don't know that), and TBM is giving me the "you're gonna be jerking yourself tonight" motion. I'm thinking OK, if these girls are doing only one deal a week, and I'm doing one every night, I'll just take one of everything in the bar *except* her....Bwaaaahahahah!!....First target, the chick she hangs out with all night every night. Just thinking back on this amuses me so much, I swear, there's spit all over the screen as I type. However, this is going to have to wait, as now it's back to Black.

In Black at about 3:30 or 4, and things have cleared out quite a bit. There's still plenty of hotties, just not so crowded. RO kinda pussed out a bit on the lowball plan (sorry RO, hate to out ya), but it was still fun observing the scene. We hung out at the bar, across from that line of sofas. For the first bit we were there, there were no girls across from us. All of a sudden, it seemed, there were about 12 or 15 lined up right in front of us. What a hoot! Look at me!, no, not her, look at me! It's like a shark tank where all the sharks have muzzles on. Funny, and fun.

So we go back to Madaho, because like I said, I aint going home sin pussy. By the time we got there, it was just a bit too late. TBM and her pal had gone, along with the majority of the others. Well, I need some, and it only takes one, so I have a look around. Spotted a cute little Argentine. A little too hippy and curvy for my tastes, but nice tits, a pretty face, and an air of "fun" about her. Now, "fun" is always my type so what the hell. Eye contact made, speedy approach, and three min. later we're ready to negotiate price. Next thing I know, she's grabbed her friend, and says how about a double. Now in hindsight it would have been better if I'd gone into something like this with a plan. You know...I want exactly this, I want you two to do specifically that, etc., but it all worked out cool enough in the end, probably because they friends, and they were comfortable with each other. I wouldn't have considered the friends angle if I'd gone in with a plan, so, as I said, it's all good.

Before I get to price negotiation, lets back up a little to J's last night in town. He had some girl quote him 750p as an opener. Now J (hysteromania) is a guy who has this scene dialed in. Absolutely the wrong guy to try this on. She was sent packing pronto pronto. So with this story in the back of my head, miss fun says for both, 750p. Something about it struck me as extremely funny, and I proceeded to laugh my face off. This turned out to be a good negotiating tactic, as we wound up going out of there for 300p total. I know, I know, some of you ace mongers would have gotten them out for 35p and a few sticks of gum, but for me (an amateur, weak Spanish etc.), I figured the going rate of 150p X 2 = 300p = an OK deal. What the fuck, I finally got that double hummer I've been chasing after for years, and a bunch of other 2 on 1 bedroom antics to boot. This goes down as a mark in the win column.

We're going back at it tonight, but I'm really whipped. A healthy dose of sleep deprivation has given me the permanent red eye condition I've heard about here on the board. I'm just not very good at sleeping during the day. RO, on the other hand, has the gift of being able to sleep until 3 in the afternoon, and he's ready to go. He's been a great running partner, so I'll tough it out. Can't let my boy down! However, I think I'll pass on the pussy tonight, and try to get some rest. I've still got 2 more weeks of this, so I don't want to hit the wall just yet.

Hasta Manana

Dave

Saint
03-13-03, 20:02
Hola Chop,

Too funny! You're report had me cracking up. Tell Ro I said hola. Sounds like you guys are having fun. It was good reading material before I hit SA. I leave for Rio in a few hours and your post should remind guys what BA is all about. Having fun!

Whether you are in some alley, in your hotel or apartment or in Black's... don't worry so much about life and have fun. That's what it's all about.

Life is good.

Chop
03-13-03, 23:07
Hola Saint & all

Always glad to amuse!

Any of you guys on the ground here want in on the fun, shoot me a message at chopperdave51@yoohoo.com .(obviously not a completely correct addy.)

This especially means you dickhead.

Going for a latenight cabride wit ya is on my "things I must do in BA" list!

I m not in the mood to type a shitload right now, so I ll just say that the plan tonight is to hit some of the more obscure places, and we ll see what happens.

Later

Dave

MCSE
03-13-03, 23:50
Hey guys, I've received several request of info concerning the Girls in Moron Place (Moron Place 90210, LOL)
There are:
Marina: Busty and ugly face, small ass, 35 years old (circa)
Mariana: Taned pretty fatty busty and big haired pussy, 23 y.o. great blow job, for an extra ar$5 she provides complete service.
Sol: short blonde (unnatural) hair, green eyes, nice sexy lips (face lips), thin, small tits, nice ass, begger barracuda, she doesn't do anal, at least for ar$5 or less.
Vanesa: blonde hair, nice legs and ass, firm tits, good attitude.
Gaby: Busty brunette, pretty fat, about 20 y.o.

Commonly, you'll be able to find only 2 or 3 girls, 'cause they works on different shifts.
In the departamentos, girls introduce herselfs quickly, so you have a few seconds to evaluate the girl. In this place you can ask your drink before you pick the girl, have a small chat and take your time, as you do in a club.
There is cumbia depressive music, a Porn Video playing and an old video game machine. My advise it's to stay cool. Try to don't look as a scared guy.

The place is about 5 blocks from the train station of Moron, you can reach the place by car, again, it's safe to park closer or in the parking lot of the city hall.
Also, by train, sarmiento railway, from once station. Also bus (colectivo) line 166 from palermo.

I said the best time it's afternoon 'cause there are either a few or no other mongers arround. The place closes at midnight.
Andresg: No, as I mentioned, the only one place like this one I know it's this one.
There are clubs in San Miguel, but you pay for the entrance right and a drink, then, fucking it's not included.
This place allows you fuck either a "vaginal" intercurse or a blowjob for the ar$8 you pay to the cashier, she/he will provide you a ticket, then you give the ticket to the girl you choose and she'll ask you for the service you want.
When she ask I recommend you say: Gimme a complete and I'll tip you with an extra ar$5, then she'll negociate or accept the deal.



regards.

Roxanne
03-14-03, 02:31
Hey, guys:

I can post again in my section, so you are welcome to visit me there!!!!

Thanks for everything, Roxana.

Hysteromania
03-14-03, 10:38
Great read on quick post, chop chop. As I remembered, YPF left first then I took my chica at 4am and thought you and RO left afterwards. You guys got the royal treatment of regulars as I always remember a girl with you both. Could of sworn we all hooked up with someone and had our fun. The Bread Maker was good conversationalist, a brat but cute as she was trying to get a girl for me. Kind of fun to have her pimpin, except for the long legged Pretty Woman outfit girl who gulped my drink and then laughed so hard when I offered 150 that she asked you to pinch to see if she was dreaming. Too funny which pissed her off more as she was hoping on a higher counter offer. Still had a great time and wish we could all do it again. Keep in touch and use my email account, (handle) at yahoo.com

JPF
03-14-03, 18:00
How soon they forget--that's jpf hysteromania, not ypf. I hope that your last night in town was a good one. I know that mine with Hamady was a good way to go out. I'm glad to hear that Chop and Rob_roy also had an entertaining evening after I left. Yes, it would be nice to do it all again.

JustGotBack
03-14-03, 18:19
I just got back to Argentina. I arranged to stay at the Hotel Marbella since it was so cheap. Now I know why. If I was just being a regular tourist, I´d stay here in a second. But I´d be embarassed to bring a chica back here. I also don´t look forward to walking past all the backpackers. So I´m planning to switch to the Apart Recoleta tomorrow that´s across the street from Affaire. While it used to be a prime place to stay, there was some talk a few months ago that they were going to crack down on guests because of the abuses of some people. Bringing 20 girls over at the same time for a shoot off. Does anyone know if they did stop allowing guests? I´d be really happy if someone responded today so I don´t get disappointed tomorrow.

Oh well, I was planning for an Estilo Nuevo night anyways.

B69
03-14-03, 18:32
Hey Justgotback,

I was there (Apart Recoleta) in December and never had a problem bringing back a chica. There was no issue. Then again I did not try to bring in 20 in a go !!

Hope this helps lucky you !!!

JustGotBack
03-14-03, 20:46
b69, thanks for the quick response. Apart Recoleta it is. It´s only $45 if you stop by. It´s $55 if you book with a website.

Here´s the first of many of my real time reports. It´s not a happy one. I decided to try some day time action. I called bonnefemme. The good thing is that the madame speaks pretty good English. The bad thing is that we still didn´t communicate. I scheduled an appt at 6. The problem is that I thought she said apartment 7 B. I repeated it back to her a few times. I go there and some women who doesn´t speak English answers the intercom. She buzzes me in. When I get up there and knock on the door, all I can hear is some guy yelling at me in Spanish ¨What floor are you looking for?¨. I head out and find a phone, I call the number again and she says that it´s 2 B, not 7 B. I say I´ll be back up. I ring 2 B and this time it is her. She says she´ll be down with a girl. I say I want to come up. She says that they´re full right now. I thought that was the point of making an appointment. I just tell her I´ll come back another day. I´ll try to ¨book¨ again earlier next time. At 6, they probably have the after work crowd.

Oh well, 5 long hours before I go to Estilo Nuevo. I get all excited about it then I have to wait. Isn´t this called blue balls.

As someone else said, make sure you call these places first. The address listed before is different than the address she gave me. It would be embarassing to show up at an apartment and have some guy yell at you in Spanish.

rob_roy5
03-14-03, 21:10
[QUOTE]Originally posted by justgotback
[i]b69, thanks for the quick response. Apart Recoleta it is. It´s only $45 if you stop by. It´s $55 if you book with a website.

Hey there justgotback,
myself and chop will be here for another good while, me 10 days and chop 15 days so keep in touch whenever you want .... either here in the forum or write to me at: rob_roy5@hotmail.com .... I do have a phone number (staying in one's of Saints apartments) but probably not a good idea to post it here (privacy matters !!!).

Also probably Jackson coming back from the USA in 1-2 days ...

Ciao, RO

Chop
03-14-03, 21:59
Hey histo

I d forgotten about the "pinch me" thing, and JPFs girl. Those were probably the biggest natural tits I ve ever seen. At the time, the imige of JPFs narrow ass with her and that monster rack was giving me quite a tickle. He was a happy man though, so good on him.

Long report to follow.

Chop
03-14-03, 22:09
Hola all,

Once again, let me warn you, this post contains no useful information. No ph#s, no addys, nada. Just drunken sleep deprived redneck ramblings.

Enjoy.

Now where did I leave off? Going to take a night off wasn't it? Well, I did, sort of. RO & I hooked up with a local expat buddy of his, and off to Black we go for a little window shopping. Now this other guy isn't much into the P4P scene, but he's pretty well versed on how things work. It was interesting to get a little different view on the scene from him. After a bit he led us over to this non-pro disco. This night was supposedly their big night. (Tue., Wed.?.....I'm not sure, the vacation effect is taking hold, and I can't tell what day of the week it is anymore). Well sure enough it was. The place was absolutely packed. Pretty wild scene. Girls hanging from the ceiling, thumping tunes, pandemonium on the dance floor, all in all a great little diversion from the ***** scene. The locals here really know how to party right.

So after a few hours of that, RO's getting the urge. Off to Madaho's we go. Now I'm determined to get some rest tonight, so I aint buying. I make this clear to the girls, and for that I get some cute little pouty looks. Bought a few of them drinks, just to be nice. These girls do get a little cut on the drinks, right? RO grabs a pretty hot one (for a change...I just don't get his taste in women, but whatever, it's his call) and I figure he's set so I call it quits and head back to my apt. for some much needed sleep. Funny to think that here in BA, going home at 4 in the morning is considered taking it easy.

The next night we head out planning to hit some of the more obscure places. Well...we didn't get very far. Stopped off at Madaho's first just to say hi to the girls, and maintain our status as regulars. TBM is playing nice again, but she hasn't learned her lesson yet, so fuck her, I blow her off. RO's girl from the night before told him that tonight was their (Madaho's) big night. Apparently she wasn't kidding. The place was packed with quality. Lots of new faces. Had a few laughs, and out the door we go.

Stopped at Affaire. Now this was my first time in the place, and it was pretty much as described. Poorly lit, a little dingy, and the girls of a somewhat lower quality. On the plus side, beers are 10p. Not cheap by BA standards, but cheaper than some of the other clubs, an if you do the math, a shade cheaper than drinking in a bar back in the states. I told RO earlier that I was tired of finding myself sober a 3 in the morning, so this was a good opportunity to kick back and have a few. There weren't many guys in the place at all, so of course we were accosted post haste. I wound up with a girl who was pretty average for the place. A little older, starting to show some mileage, etc...Well, what she lacked in looks, she more than made up for in hustle and eagerness to please. RO had taken a fancy to some girl he had seen immediately on entering, who was now nowhere to be found. My girl knew who he meant, and proceeded to chase all over hells half acre trying to find her. Took her a good 30 min., but she brought her back. Unfortunately she and RO couldn't come to an agreement on $, so it kind of turned out to be a bust for him. Had a ball though, as my girl was a ton of laughs. Sat around and pounded some beers, and for the price of a girlie drink (30p) got an hour long lap dance. Just try getting that in the states! After all her efforts and fun, I wasn't gonna bail on her, so I went ahead and took her back to the apt.. I'll spare you all the squirty bedroom details, but lets just say that her eagerness to please, and her "go the extra mile" attitude displayed in the club carried over to the bedroom. Easily the least attractive girl I've had here, yet she's the first one I've tipped. Go figure.

Not sure how RO made out, as I haven't spoken with him today, but last I saw him he was heading over Madaho's way. I'm sure that wherever he wound up, he had a ball. Hard not to in this town.

So much for checking out the more obscure places, huh?
Oh well, time to rest up, and try again tonight.

Banzaiiiiiii...........

Dave

Dickhead
03-15-03, 00:41
Originally posted by Chop
Hola Saint & all

Always glad to amuse!

Any of you guys on the ground here want in on the fun, shoot me a message at chopperdave51@yoohoo.com .(obviously not a completely correct addy.)

This especially means you dickhead.

Dave

Sorry man, I left yesterday and am back home now. I was under the weather quite a bit on this visit and had a few days worth of plans so it was less of a Dickhead type trip and more mellow. Maybe next time.

DH

JustGotBack
03-15-03, 02:55
I went to Nuevo Estilo tonight. All the old girls are there along with some newer ones. The quality is just as high as it was before, but only if you like em young. A girl that I was with last time remembered me and we chatted a bit. I had my eye on the first girl that I ever saw there many months ago. Unlike most of the other girls, she doesn´t meet your eyes. She´s very standoffish like an Amsterdam window worker. But she is just so hot. She´s blond, tallish and has big natural breasts. She´s 25. Undeterred by her attitude I went up and asked her name. It's Carla. Enought of the chit chat, I ask if she wants to go to a salon. She says yes. The price she names is for $125 for 30 minutes. I knew I could make due with 20 since I've been all ready to go all day, but I didn't want to argue. She has a dual personality. Once we get in the room, she´s a 10 performance wise. No complaining and don't touch this or that. She even leads your hand there if you're in the area. But like a Amsterdam window worker, once I shot my load, she was up, handed me a towel and started getting dressed. No cuddling, no talking and no massage to pass the rest of the time. I only used like 15 minutes. It was still worth it. She's as hot as any girl I've ever seen at Blacks. I got there at about 11. There was one guy there that was heading up with a girl but I was it when he left. I kind of like it that way, plenty of choices and you get them fresh. It's not like they shower in between. I don't want to be sucking on a nipple with some other guys spit on it. I came back down after and waited for a show, nothing happened. Probably because there were only like 3 guys, including me, in the place. Carla was back to the cold fish. She didn't even meet my eyes when I said good night.

Afterwards I headed out to Playwoman just for old times sake. It´s a shadow of it's former glory if you were there last summer and fall. The management is completely different. There's no one there who used to work there before. As for the girls, there are 3 or 4 old timers, but unfortunately none of the hot ones. The new talent is OK, but pale in comparision to the Nuevo Estilo girls at least for me. While Playwoman has never been what one would call classy, it seems more divish than ever. It's definitely turned into where all the tourist go. The customers are like a mini UN meeting. English has become the linga franca. I think I'll have to cross it off my list.

Excuse my poor spelling. I haven't slept much because of the flight and I'm drunk.

JustGotBack
03-15-03, 16:47
I moved from Hotel Marbella to Apart Recoleta today. Hotel Marbella is really a decent place to stay if you are a regular tourist. The staff is great. I checked out at noon today and they insisted on getting me breakfast even though breakfast ended at 10:30. It´s just the room quality and the endless backpackers hanging out by reception made it a place I wouldn´t take a girl. I don´t have a problem walking into Etoile or Dazzler with a girl even if the lobby is full. But with backpackers, it just didn´t seem right.

Apart Recoleta is just like an apartment. Curiously there´s a collection of empty water and soda bottles on top of the dresser. Am I supposed to add to the collection? It has a kitchen but no pots or pans so I don´t know what you can do in there? Why would you want to anyways with all the cheap restaurants? It has a room safe for those it matters to. But since it´s about 10 times too small to put my laptop into, I don´t use it. A good thing is that breakfast runs until 1 pm. I never get the free breakfast at any of the other places because they only go to 10 or so? If you´re up at 10 am, either your a insomniac or you went home alone.

I wanted to try the new hottie on www.escortsbaires.com.ar. Agustina aka #68. But she was on vacation last week and now her listing is gone. DAMN IT!!!!!!!

I´m heading to Madahos tonight. I promised a hawker I would go there tonight. This guy knows me on sight. He´s hawked for almost all the clubs in Recoleta.

Chop
03-15-03, 23:31
Dickhead said...

Sorry man, I left yesterday and am back home now. I was under the weather quite a bit on this visit and had a few days worth of plans so it was less of a Dickhead type trip and more mellow. Maybe next time.

DH


Damm dickhead, sorry to hear that. Funny thing, I m feeling a little under the weather myself. Somehow I v managed to catch a wicked little cold. Too much partying, lack of sleep? Naaah...couldn t be.



Hola otra ves mis amigos!

The BA fun continues!

Well, tonight we finally made it out of Recoleta. Made it as far as Hook. The initial plan was to check out all the little clubs in this part of town. (Centro?) Hook was the first one we went to, and that was as far as we got. Now my mantra here in BA has been, "it only takes one", and tonight was a textbook example. We get to Hook, and it's, as one would expect from the info on this board, a sort of a "second tier" place. Dim, not real high quality girls, etc., but, and here's the thing, there are a couple of hotties there. RO hooks up with a genuine, bonafide hottie. I think I'm beginning to figure out his taste in women. Ass bigger than tits. I think. Anyway, the one he grabs has this going on, and a whole lot more. Really smokin'. They agree on 150p por toda la noche. I'm sure he's having a great time even as I type.

Also tonight we hooked up with a guy from my 'lil Spanish school. Y'all may remember him from a previous post. He's the one who told me that scuttlebut amongst the girls at Madaho's is that me & RO are regulars. Turns out he lurks around the board here, and between my ramblings here, and the way I ramble in person (imagine that!), he didn't have too much trouble putting one and one together. He's been here for about a week, and has been running solo, which sucks. Having a running partner(s) for this kind of trip makes all the difference. I know that if I had been doing this all on my own, I wouldn't have had nearly as much fun as I have had blasting around town with RO. So,...let me take a moment here to publicly thank RO for really making this trip a blast. Couldn't have done it without 'ya dude! Anyway, we hook up with this guy (W), and he comes along for the ride. He winds up getting the one I'd have picked. Lean, tight, and very young. Said she was from Paraguay (or Uraguy?). She was wearing the smallest skirt I've ever seen. RO said that back in Italy they wouldn't call it a skirt, they'd call it a belt. Funny. Now if I'd been in the mood,(which I wasn't...Ms. "go the extra mile" really wore me out last night), I could have grabbed another girl in there who, I swear, was Ms. Belt's sister, outfit and all. Those two actually had me confused for a bit, as they were wearing similar outfits, but different colors. Before I finally saw the two of them together, I kept thinking, damm....did she go and change clothes again? Anyway, bottom line being that even though the place wasn't packed with high quality talent, there was still enough to go around. Once again.....it only takes one.

So we're sitting there in Hook. RO's got his deal locked up, I'm perfectly content sitting there hammering beers, and W's got Ms. Belt in his lap. I ask him how much she wants, and he says they haven't gotten around to that yet. *WHAT?* Quickly I lean over to her and say (in my stilted, shitty Spanish), my friend wants to take you for 150p for 2 hours. She perks right up and agrees. Guess I should have opened a little lower, but what the fuck. She was young and hot, and it was a plenty good enough deal. Turns out (I just got of the phone with W) she stayed all night, and he had to throw her out this morning. W... Dude... it's a business transaction.....Close, close, close!!!

So anyway, another night, another good time had by all.

Later

Dave

Dickhead
03-15-03, 23:50
After trip #1 to BA I had an amiga. By the time trip #2 rolled around she was an amigovia. Now after trip #2 I have an "amigovia plus," another amiga I think I can turn into amigovia #2, a new nickname, and a whole bunch of gifts. And UNLIKE THE UNITED STATES, neither is a whining jealous snobby demanding calculating unpredictable mocosa.

And I ain't even TRYING to do any of this. It just falls into my lap. And I ain't young, or good looking, or rich, or tall, or well-endowed, or ANYTHING.

What is UP with this???? But mine is not to question why; it's just to screw until I die.

Your loyal servant,

Dickhead

Dickhead
03-16-03, 02:10
Originally posted by hysteromania
Not only that, before I put it in, she said wait and put on yet some more lubricant and told me it was female contraceptive. Right. All I know is I got a warm fuzzy sensation down there and shot my load in under 5 minutes. All these freaking tricks I began to feel jipped as I came without realizing it. I took it out and noticed I was drenched as if somebody had thrown a glass of water on me. My hand kept slipping and I could not get the condom off until the 3rd try.



Buddy, from your description this sounds like Encare Ovals, which is indeed a dissolving, foaming female contraceptive which produces heat. My ex-wife and I used to use them just for the heat. There are also similar foams and contraceptive gels which all produce heat; I know not why exactly. I don't think it was a lubricant per se.

Boy in Lima
03-16-03, 04:15
Mcse was talking about getting models from TV as escorts. Can you tell us how to get one of these girls?

Someboyinlima

Hysteromania
03-16-03, 11:08
Originally posted by JPF
How soon they forget--that's jpf hysteromania, not ypf. I hope that your last night in town was a good one. I know that mine with Hamady was a good way to go out. I'm glad to hear that Chop and Rob_roy also had an entertaining evening after I left. Yes, it would be nice to do it all again.

Sorry mate, but I did get a kick out of the initials anyways. You are JPF and the gasoline stations are YPF. In the end, we are all pumping something later on at night- whether gas or chicas. ;)

JustGotBack
03-16-03, 15:19
I went to Madahos last night at around 11 pm. It was dead. At least I know where the old Playwoman girls went. They're at Madahos. I ran into one that I generally take out everytime I come here. She told me that there are 100 girls here on the weekdays, but it's really dead on Saturday and Sunday. I didn´t expect much since I already knew that weekends suck. I ran into a couple of fellow forum readers. Hi guys. I had a nice little chat with them for an hour or so. They went to sit at a sofa with some girls, but I declined since I was getting ready to leave. I might have picked the girl I knew from Playwoman but she was already taken. She also told me she had a cold, so I´ll give her a couple of days to get over it. Things did pick up. More girls came in and more guys. Too bad there ended up being more guys than girls. 20 pesos with 1 drink.

I headed out to Affaire. It's not been the best place there is but last night it was OK. I walked in a one of the girls was naked and dancing on one of the tables. There were about 20 girls there. About 4 or 5 were doable for me. The cool part about Affaire is that the girls aren´t shy about coming up to you. They come up and basically do a lap dance while your sitting on a stool. This goes on for minutes before they hit you up for a drink. I usually decline and they just say that's OK and wander off. About 4 or 5 of these girls later, I'm hoping not to have to change my underwear. Anyways I pick out this short 20 year old blond named Natalia. She asks for 200 pesos and I counter with 150. She agrees. She was way cool in the club when she told me the price of the drink she wanted before she ordered it. I thought that was thoughtful. We walk across the street to Apart Recoleta. I like this place. No registering the girls, just go up. Once up there she asked for the money up front. A bad sign. What can I say, she was OK. Once I was done though, she started getting dressed. She was only there for about 30 minutes. I could have gotten better and cheaper at Nuevo Estilo. My experience is the young ones look good, but lack experience. She asked me for a tip at the end, I declined. On my BA scale of 1 to 10. 1 being the worst I've had in BA and 10 being the best. I'd give her a 5. Total cost 150 + 45 (entrance and girl´s drink) = 195. Not bad for a Recoleta club.

What to do tonight? The weekends are dead, but Sunday is really dead. I think I'll check out the downtown bars, if that fails maybe go back to Nuevo Estilo or just start calling the internet girls that say they speak English until I find one who really does.

I got my pocket picked last night. They made off with my map that the infomation people put the directions on how to get to Moron. Now what am I going to do?

Hysteromania
03-16-03, 15:39
Bummer, my girl from Madahos or as I like to call it, Mad Ho´s, has not emailed me yet. ;( Natalia, where are you?

I have seen Hook appear on the board some lately. Although not a big fan of the centro district, it is less cost and there are some nice girls down there although you may have to look harder. Hook is probably the best club of that little strip but if you want better action, Estilo Nuevo is tops for me unless you can get one of the Madahos girls around closing time. The Recoleta clubs are just a pain in the ass with their 1-1.5 hour time limit and although others have gotten around it, my girls were all Cinderallas who had to back before midnight.

I have hit it off well with both Karina and Magali at Hook and can recommend them. One of them has a deadbeat boyfriend mooching off her but the other lives alone and was delighted that I was staying 3 blocks away and invited me to come over and we went out for a drink and played pool, no pressure or hype if not on the clock. I will let you figure out which but you can tell them Julian says hola.

There is so much variety in BA and ways to get it. You have the clubs, escorts, then you have the quickie bars like Estilo Nuevo or pick up joints like Cafe Orleans, etc. And let us not forget the apartment girls. Can´t beat their prices but check out several and post if you find a nice apartment place. You should give all of them a try as well as visit a pub and get a number or two. I never followed up on these but with more emails back and forth, could possibly develop into a preferred amiga.

Andres
03-16-03, 16:16
Originally posted by justgotback


[snip]

What to do tonight? The weekends are dead, but Sunday is really dead. I think I'll check out the downtown bars, if that fails maybe go back to Nuevo Estilo or just start calling the internet girls that say they speak English until I find one who really does.

I got my pocket picked last night. They made off with my map that the infomation people put the directions on how to get to Moron. Now what am I going to do?

Tonight, you can go to Flores. I bet that La Nuit and Envidia open tonight, so you could assess the quality of girls catering to middle-class locals. I guess that these girls have a quality similar to those at the Morón place (or slightly better quality, due ot the price scheme).

In order to get to Morón, it's easy: Take a cab or the subway to Once train station ("Estación de tren Once"), buy a ticket to Morón at the counters ("Ida y vuelta a Morón, por favor") and take the train. Before getting in, try to see what station is before Moron (I think that Moron is the 9th station, just after Haedo), just in case the train is full and you cannot get off easily there.

Hope this helps,

Andres

JustGotBack
03-16-03, 22:52
Andres thanks for the advice. When I went to the info booth and asked how to get to Estacion de tren Once. They said that there wasn't a station there. That Once was just the name of a street. I knew this couldn't be true because of mcse´s posting. I also looked it up in the phone book map and there was a Once train station. Anyways she told me to go to the station at the corner of Ave Pueyrredon and Ave Rivadavia. It´s Plaza something. Is that the same place? I'll save Moron until next week since mcse said it might be better during the day.

Hysto, I know what you mean about the clubs. I'm hoping it will pick up this week. I love Estilo Nuevo but I really want to get BBBJ which is kind of a no no there. I was just thinking this afternoon that I should have just stayed at Hotel Marbella and gone to Estilo Nuevo each night. Both those things combined would have cost about as much as staying a night at Apart Recoleta.

Here's a restaurant tip. Ask if they have a special that day. Last night I went to my favorite restaurant, I go there about 3 to 4 times each time I'm down here. I ordered Asado and a salid. After I ate, I saw a flyer on the ground for that night's special. It was a entree, Asado, salid, frys, bread and dessert for 9 pesos. It was basically my meal with an entree and dessert. I ended up paying 20 pesos for mine because I didn't get the special. I'm kind of pissed at the waitress for not telling me they had a special that was basically the same meal for half the price. I know this waitress well. I always ask for her and I also always leave at least a 25% tip. I might have to start stiffing her from now on.

Andres, can I ask you a Spanish question. I never finish dinner because it's so much food. How do you ask them to wrap it up so I can take it with me? I´d like to give it to the homeless children that are all over Recoleta. Why waste it when people are hungry?

Dickhead
03-16-03, 23:12
25% is WAY too high for a tip. Read Andres' report on tipping.

Andres
03-16-03, 23:28
justgotback:

"Plaza something" at Rivadavia Av and Pueyrredon Av is precisely "Plaza de Miserere" or "Plaza Once". This square is named Once (11) because of September 11, 1888, the death-date of Domingo F. Sarmiento (to his honor the westbound train service was named after him).

You can ask "Puede envolver la comida que sobra para llevar?". However, this American custom didn't use to apply to BA restaurants (nowadays, with the crisis and the delivery services, things may be different).

As Dickhead said, 25% is WAY too high. With 25%, you are telling her "I have tons of bills to spend", so she didn't mind in advising for a cheaper meal. 10% is enough.

Hope this helps,

Andres

OutoftheGame
03-17-03, 06:33
Well the wait is over. I've been back for over a week now from the best vacation of my young life. I'm sorry for not posting my adventures on a daily basis as I had planned. I myself enjoy logging on to this site every day to see what new adventure a member has for us. But unlike most of you I don't have a laptop and didn't have as much time as I thought to go to an internet cafe every day. Well enough about that and here is my contribution so Jackson, Saint and others don't lump me in with the people that take but don't give back. I really don't know where to begin, as I have many things I want to get off my chest not only of experiences I had and the wonderful people I had the pleasure to meet while in BA, but also I would like to express some thoughts I've had on life itself and how BA changed me as a person. I know most of you only want to read about A. Girls name. B. How much. C. Was she any good? So for this I will be breaking my report into sections and will provide an outline so those that are interested in only the sex stories won't have to read all my other boring thoughts. Jackson I hope this is ok with you and you don't deleate it. Ok here's the way it'll breakdown.....

OutoftheGame
03-17-03, 07:07
I. Basic thoughts of BA before visiting and what I thought of the city on my visit and expectations.
II. The people I met in BA,i.e. other wsg members.
III. First nite out.(Given tour by Jackson himself.)CHICA INFO!!!!!
IV. Cafe Orleans.Partial chica info.
V. 2nd nite in BA, flying solo.CHICA INFO.
VI. Overview of clubs and personal opions of first couple of days.
VII. Sun. nite,how slow it is....unless your in Madaho's w/MRLA.CHICA INFO
VIII. Round 2 at Orleans. Slap in the face. Meeting of SUPERJEFF!
IX. MRLA'S farewell party at Madaho's with the whole gang.
X. OUT OF THE GAME remembers why he gave himself this handle.CHICA INFO (BUT HER NAME CANNOT BE PASSED TO OTHERS. SORRY.)
XI. Post P4P blues.
XII. Repeat chica,flowers at 4am...only in BA.
XIII. Buddy gets into town.....now let the games begin?
XIV. Saint Valentine dinner with my new novia...who later reminds me that she is a working girl.
XV. Let's go to a regular disco!!!!
XVI. Buddy sick so has me call internet chica for him. PLATYNUM SITE GIRL.
XVII. Tuker aka Tommy NYC, gets drunk and wakes up scared. CHICA INFO.
XVIII. Rest of the days and nites adventures in finding chicas in a very long report . Lots of laughs and CHICA NEWS.
XIX. Why spending to much time with a chica is bad. HOOKS GIRL
XX. Dream come true.
XXI. Don't let little girls drink!!!!!
XXII. Grab you bathing suits, we're off to Mar Del Plata.( This post will be in that section. Lots of fun and different experience compaired to what others have done.)
XXIII. My hero scores a hat trick. FUNNY FUNNY STORY.CHICA INFO
XXIV. La Boca and why women shouldn't drive.
XXV. Dude where's my phone?
XXVI. Farewell party to myself at Madaho's. The best club and people in BA.
XXVII. Final day......not what I was expecting.
XXVIII. My great depression. What happened between me and my chica.
XXIX. Mordir (Buddy's new nickname) and his failure to believe that you cannot teach girls in the states to act like women in BA.

OutoftheGame
03-17-03, 07:50
Part I. When I was looking to take a vacation I knew it had to be somewhere other than Mexico. It would need to be warm. And most of all it has to be filled with latin women and have places available for a guy to go to get a sure thing. First thoughts were Spain or Brazil. Then while reading about Brazil I decided to check on Argentina and heard many good things. Especially with the exchange rate. Well with the insights of Saint on his virgin trip and others that echoed these same feelings it was decided. And the PLATYNUM site made me loco to get my butt to BA. Most of what I learned of BA came from this site.
I was suprised on how green it is, on the ride in from the airport to my Apt. Which I got thru Mayri, and would give her my highest recommendations. As we get off the autopista and gets on a main street I'm already in love with the city. The architicure of the buildings is beautiful, along with all the trees that line the streets to provide beauty and shade from the warm summer days. Now I consider the myself lucky to live in an area with so many gorgous women, but the they are no match for the ladies of BA. To see so many thin and well dressed women was mind blowing. The thing I like most about most of the women her is their skin color, they are truely bronze statues. And I haven't even been to any clubs yet, these are just your everyday women of BA. One could spend a lifetime here and not get tired of all the eye candy. Finally arrived at my Apt. my buddy won't be in for another week, damn work responsibilities so I'm a little nervous on getting together with the group in the Etoile lobby at 9pm. I wanting to check out more women so I decided to walk around the city some to get my bearings and locate clubs and other areas I had read about i.e. the cemetery. My apt. was on Parera in Recoleta. I was able to walk safely thru the streets and never felt the slightest bit of fear. Only had to watch out so as not to step in dog droppings. I was able to try to blend in immediatly as well by finding a little cafe and getting an espresso. I fell in love with so many women walking by I lost count. Later I was able to find the famous Etoile hotel........continued in Part II.

Yeah Baby
03-17-03, 14:19
Hi outofthegame,

Hope you are doing well. Met you and your friend at Jackson's apartment when you got back from Mar del Plata. Thought I should let you know that your friend's chica was working that same weekend that you guys left at Madahos, so much for the money he left her so that she wouldn't have to work at least for awhile. Have to admit, she has a nice rack. As for your chica, I was told by one of the girls working there that she thought your girl quit because she has a regular boyfriend on the outside, don't know how much of that is true. Anyway, my last night I took out a girl that has an American boyfriend that has already arranged all her paperwork/visa to move to Los Angelos, and she is leaving in a matter of days to be with him. This is a chica that was absolutely wild and let me take pictues of her performing varios acts to me, all good.

I mention this because its important for all that are going down to B.A. not to confuse shagging with love. These girls are working for the money, occassionally, they do fall for someone, however that is an exception. Remember these girls are working and want your repeat business, of course there going to treat you well. Don't get confuse with a pro that gives you a GFE, it is an illusion and not an actual a GFE. Have fun.

JustGotBack
03-17-03, 16:08
Thanks for the info Andres.

Yeah 25% is too high. Last night I scaled back to 10%.

Here´s what happened last night. Started as a disaster but turned out good. I started out by going to Gattos and Hooks. Both clubs were absolutely dead. There were 3 or 4 girls in both clubs, maybe 4 and 5s. I was only in each for about 10 seconds before I left. I love the fact that the downtown clubs don't have entrance fees. You can just come in, have a look and decide to stay or leave. I then took a taxi out to Nuevo Estilo. While it always looks closed, this time it really was. My first clue was that the little blue strip light was out. The gate was shut and no one answered my gate rattle. There were a couple of patrons having a beer at the corner restaurant and they just shooked there heads. DON'T COME TO NUEVO ESTILO ON SUNDAY. Hailing a cab out there is a pain. It took me about 20 minutes to catch a ride back.

I decided to go to Madahos for the hell of it. Surprisingly there were more girls than Saturday night. There's this incredible hottie I remembered from last time. She was there. I went up to the bar to get a beer, turned around and there were about 3 guys hitting on her. I waited for about an hour to see if the deal would fall through, but nothing. He who hesitates, waits. I decided to go for the girl I knew from Playwoman. I get her at least once everytime I'm here so why wait. She was good as usual. Surprisingly even though she doesn't speak much English and I don't speak much Spanish we always seem to have decent conversations. She tells me about how the rest of you guys on the forum treat her so be kind. She gave me the low down on the gunplay at Playwoman. That's why she's working at Madahos now. I paid her 200 pesos. What do most of you guys pay at Madahos, she said that none of the girls would take 150 there. She tends to be honest with me. Entrance is 20 pesos and her drink was 30 pesos. That's a lot less than the 80-200 pesos you pay for the bar fee at Playwoman and Blacks.

OutoftheGame
03-18-03, 09:29
Yeah Baby, thanks for your input and I enjoyed meeting you. I'm happy to see you have no hard feelings towards me in regards to our disagreement over American politics. Actually my buddies girl is calling him at least twice a day. He is trying to get her a visa to visit the USA. He isn't caught up in being in love with her yet, he would just like her to come for a few months and show her around the country, besides they need to get to know each other better. As a matter of fact when he talked to her today she mentioned something about Madaho's being crazy on Sat. nite. His Spanish is very bad and even though she has being trying to learn English he couldn't understand if something bad happened or if it was just busy. If anyone was in Madaho's last Sat. and knows more info could you let me know. He was a little sad to hear that she is back to work but she has to earn a living.
I'm very shocked to hear that my girl hasn't been working. I have not talked to her since I've been back. But when I talked to my buddies girl ( I have to call her for him most of the time do to the language barrier) she said she talked with my girl and she wanted to know if I would want her to have my phone#. So I'll see what happens when she calls me. Sorry for those of you that can't follow this story but I promise to lay it all out here in black and white. Hope to hear from you more YEAH BABY and now to continue with my adventures.

OutoftheGame
03-18-03, 10:00
PART II. The people I met in BA,other WSG members.

I just wanted to quickly say hi to all of the wonderful guys I met while in BA. And I would especially like to thank the ones I spent so much time with, El Richardo I hope all is going well for you and I really regret not being able to spend more time together as we seemed to have many things in common on how we felt about women and especially the wounded rabbits, Gabriel told me the story about Sir Lancelot and the witch and I think you should put it on the board. I didn't get a chance to exchange info with you so if it's ok I'll ask Gabriel for it to stay in touch with you better. MRLA, man this guy knows how to have a good time. My first nite in town got me all set up in Madaho's so I never paid the cover to get in. Plus I was able to learn a few things from him in how to treat women. I enjoy making it a nice experience for the lady as well even though I'm the one paying, but this guy went way beyond my usual gentleman self. Thanks again for showing me the ropes and I will keep trying to get in touch with you to see how things are going.
Tucker aka Tommy NYC or as a liked to call him Tommy two guns. Man we had a blast, especially when my buddy finally got over his cold. I just wish you could of stayed longer because we had some crazy shi* happen, this stuff even tops you a Gabriel switching girls. Also I think you posted your e-mail so I will hopefully send you some info on a chica at Madaho's that would melt like a flower anytime I mentioned your name, I promised her I would send you her e-mail to contact her since she got me a CD that I wanted. I would love to meet up again in BA so keep me informed as your next visit. Keep singing FRANKIE and stay out of harms way.
Gabriel, man oh man I don't know how to put into words the pleasure I had of meeting you and the adventures we had together. I will e-mail you soon and catch up on things. Hope you made it out of BA alive. P.S. How does that clock look on your mantle? HAHAHA. Sorry I couldn't resist. You really need to post that story on here.
And finally Jackson, thank you for not only the gift of this site but for going out of your way to show us virgins the in's and out's of the city. I would also like to thank you for letting me be part of your casting party. I don't know if you want that shared on the board so please let me know.
My goodness I almost forgot our queen,Roxanna. I really apologize for not giving you a gift for the information you got for me for the MANA concert. But I promise to be back in BA and make it up to you.
I meet many others while in BA for a month i.e High on Hobbying, Jackson's Italian friend and MR. North North North West, but did not get to spend as much time with them as others. I just have to agree with what Saint said as far as meeting guys that I'll create a life long friendship with. Thank you all again so much and I hope to meet more members on my next visit.

OutoftheGame
03-18-03, 10:57
Part III. First nite out,given tour by Jackson himself. CHICA INFO

Like I stated earlier I arrived in BA alone, only knew that I was to meet up with a few guys that I had never meet before in the lobby of the etoile at 9PM. I was very nervous about this since my age might be an issue, and I didn't know what anyone looked like and was apprehensive to ask the hotel for MR.LEE. I arrived at the hotel about 10 till 9 and saw a couple of guys in sitting down on the couch by the window when you first walk in and I saw a couple of guys sitting at the couch in the middle of the lobby. Great I don't want to look like an American idiot on my first day in BA and start asking strangers if they are MR.LEE. So I decided to sit in the back and listen to hear some info to find out if they were WSG members, well right away the guys at the the couch in the middle spoke in Spanish and I figured the odds of them being WSG members were not high so now I just had to work up the nerve to talk to the other gentlemen. At the same time I noticed another older gentleman amlessly lurking in the lobby that looked as lost as me. So I asked him " Are you Mr. Lee?" "No, are you?" he replied, damn now I feel like I'm in some James Bond movie having to guess the secret password or handshake to find out who this idiot was. Well it turns out he knew of the board but didn't post. So I was right he is an idiot. Well I was know stuck with him since he was looking for Mr. Lee as well. Since I would prefer to talk to the grass than this guy the rest of the nite I decided to confront the other gentlemen who turned out to be the famous Mr.Lee and Gabriel. They informed us that Jackson was on his way to join us for the nights activities. WOW!!! First nite in town and I get to hang with Jackson. Jackson arrives and isn't what I imagined, I figured him to be sort of quite and reserved,since he doesn't post on the site much, but as those of you that have met Jackson know he his not reserved at all and would post more if he didn't have to spend so much time policing the board. After chatting a bit we put Jackson in the driver seat and let him show us around, first stop Orleans. It is on San Martin and Cordoba if I remember correctly. We get there at around 11pm, he warns us not to expect much since this is an afternoon hangout. I was quite suprised by the # of girls in the place and that if it wasn't for Jackson telling me that all of the girls are working I would just assume it was another run of the mill cafe. I mean the place isn't dark at all and the women are dressed in normal attire. We had a drink even though none of us had any plans of doing anything. The nite was young and we had so much to see. But Jackson ran into an old friend and wasnted to chat with her for and catch up on old times, and who are we to agrue with the boss, besides come to find out it is much more affordable to have a few drinks there than the rest of the clubs. Well we all finish up and move on over to Hooks just a few blocks away on Suipacha 930. I believe it's about 11:30pm and the place is very slow. It has a few girls sitting at the bar and some at the tables when you first walk in. Jackson tells us to be patient and explains that we shouldn't bother going out till at least midnight the rest of out stay since the girls don't usually get to work till then. And I found that to be extremely true, unless you want to be alone in the bar and maybe grab a girl just as she is arriving to work it doesn't make much sense to go out till 12:30 or 1am. Jackson distances himself from the rest of us, I figure he doesn't want us asking stupid questions. We all finish are drinks and are ready to walk next door to Caddo's, it as well is slow and this is a Friday nite. Again Jackson stays at the bar while the rest of us sit at a table I start to worry that he doesn't want to be responsible for us and would like to go do his own thing. I ask if everything is ok and he explains to me that if he stays with us the girls will not come over since he is such a regular and they all know that when he's interested in a chica he'll approach her, so by distancing himself from us when can be pounced on like fresh meat being feed to lions. And wouldn't you know it a few minutes later Gabriel, and a couple of others have girls sitting on their laps. As for me I didn't see any one that cought my eye, I usually don't find women over 25 attractive no matter how great of a body they have. I guess we all have are standards. The only thing that I did realize was I wasn't the only one that liked young ladies....Gabriel had a very sweet girl sitting with him that was just my type, she had good tan skin and lovely long black hair, and was thin. I commented to him that I thought his choice was good and the fact that we have a similar taste in women, luckily this wasn't a problem in BA as women like that are a dime a dozen. After awhile Jackson and the rest of us needed to se some new scenery. Gabriel couldn't join us for he had found his love for the nite. 1 down 5 of us mongers left to go..........to be continued.

OutoftheGame
03-18-03, 12:01
PART III. Continued...sorry don't want to get kicked off so decided to post what I har writtten.

So after losing Gabriel in Caddos Jackson takes us to Madaho's. Now Jackson is a regular here as well but informs us that it has only been open for a couple of months and business had really picked up since the problems at Playwoman, which was still closed at this time. Now Madaho's belonged to MRLA as soon as the door man saw all of with MRLA we got greeted like old friends, it truly is amazing how friendly the people here are. So the door man gets us in and makes sure we don't waste time paying the cover as he knows we aren't just taking up space. By the way I think the door man has some of the biggest hands I've seen . When he shook my hand it got lost. So when we get to the bar MRLA is again greeted like a family member, first he gives a peck on the chick to the lovely bartender and introduces us as his friends, she gives us all pecks on the cheeks as well,damn I could really get use to this, why the hell are we Americans so rude and stand offish? Well we can discuss that later. We all order are drinks and this is another thing I have never seen before. I get my usual Jack and Coke, well unlike bars in the US the bottles don't have stoppers on them so the bartender won't put to much in a glass, here and all other clubs I visited in BA they actually show you the amount of liquer being poured into the glass. Not only that they fill the glass about 80% of the way with Jack and put in a splash of Coke. Now I'm ready for some action. This club I really fell in love with and is far and away the best club to visit in BA, but I'll discuss that more in Part VI. When my eyes started to gaze over the scenery I realized that that 15 hour plan flight was worth it. The women in this place are truely AMAZING and even though the drinks are a bit more than most places they never bug you or try to make you order more. After that first drink you ask for another only if you want one. It took a little while to find something that really caught my eye, and for me I like to see how a girl I'm interested in conducts herself with others to try and judge if she'll be a GFE or a clock watcher. Besides I was enjoying talking with the fellas and didn't want to look like I was fresh of the plane. I did have my eye one a particular chica that was thin and simi long brown hair, she didn't have tight pants on so it was hard to get an idea on how her ass was but she had a gold bra type of top on. I asked Jackson if he knew her and ofcourse he did and called her over. Jackson had pointed out others that he knew as well but didn't fit my type, by the way I also don't like blonds, so many girls got axed right away. The girl that he called over was Adriana I believe, she was very friendly and I enjoyed talking with her, I offered to buy her a drink since I was expecting this to be the one I mean if Jackson says she was good than I can't go wrong, I didn't want to have a so so experience on my first nite. After chatting a bit more and since it's about 2am at this point I decided to talk business, so inquired as to how much. She hit me with 300 pesos for an hour.....I couldn't believe it, I may be young and I might be full of cum, but I sure as hell ain't been raised as no dummy. Didn't she realize that I had spent months reading reports by guys on this board to know that she is playing me for a dumb gringo. So I get my thoughts together after being insulted and tell her that 300 pesos is for 3 hours not 1, I know this is a low figure but wanted to show her the same disrespect that she showed me, then she counters with 200 pesos for 1 hour, ok I'm still insulted but at least she's moving, I counter with 300 pesos for 2 hours, she is insulted and still presses the 200 for 1 hour. Well so much for her. Time to find someone else, Jackson and some of the others had left at this point and I decided to use my old tatic of finding a little "wall flower" that is a girl that is hiding in the corner or not being approached by many guys and will be more eager to earn a couple of pesos for the evening. After a short time I saw her standing against the back wall facing the dance floor. She wasn't the greatest looking girl but she had a very pretty face and smile. Her name was Sophia, we sat on the couch and she was very affectionate, it was not to crowded so she layed in my arms and would just kiss me the whole time. I had found my GFE for the evening and decide to see if she thought I was dumb and asked her how much to go to my apartment, she told me 150 pesos for 1 1/2 so I explain to her that it seemed fair but might want more time, she had no problems since it was late and she didn't have to return to the club. We get to my apt. and she is very impressed by it's size, as all girls were it was a 4 bedroom place and very spacious. Since it's 4am I don't feel much like fooling around, she doesn't give me a BBBJ as for I didn't ask and never seems to make a difference to me. I enjoy the time with her a total GFE as I expected and she stays till 7am, I gave her 300 pesos and went to bed completly satisfied after my first day in BA. Can it get any better? To be continued. Damn 5am right now. Sorry I have to get some sleep.

JustGotBack
03-18-03, 14:26
I went to back to Madahos last night. There were a lot more girls there than during the weekend. I got there about 11:30 and there weren't that many guys. About an hour later it was packed. I did my stroll around the place and said hi to all the girls and waiters I know and plopped down in my usual spot. There were some hot new chicks but tonight I wanted to hold out for the hottie I've been eyeing for the last couple of trips. Then all of a sudden this girl walks by. Forget the hottie, when it's right you know it. I hadn't noticed her before because she was dancing way in back. She has this bubbly way of walking that is so delightful. I go sit on one of the couches and watch her dance for the next 20 minutes. She notices me and keeps making eye contact. I ask her if she would like a drink. She says yes. It turns out it's her first night working. She's 22 and a theater student. She wants to be an actress. She's speaks decent English. I ask her how much to come back to my hotel with me. She says 130 pesos. Not believing my ears, I ask her to repeat it. She says 130 pesos. I didn't negoitiate and ruin the mood. We head back to Apart Recoleta. Unlike all the other girls that always wear a coat to cover up, she just grabbed her bag. She got a little embarrassed walking by the security guard in her short short skirt. Hey, she's new. She let me take photos of everything. She even posed for me. When I asked her to do something she would just say of course. BBBJ, all different positions, CIM, whatever. Let's just say I had to push the bed back into position after she left. Because of her I'll have to change my BA scale of 1 - 10 to a scale of 1 - 11. After the sex, she was in no rush to leave. We had a nice chat about the pros and cons of the IRAQ war. You don't get that from most girls in BA clubs. She never once mentioned money. At the end she started walking towards the door and I had to say ¨Don´t you want your money.¨ All the girls give me their phone numbers and emails, but I don't use them. With her, I just may have to. Sadly I know that a few weeks/months in the clubs will harden her up. This delightful, bubbly jewel will be gone. So 130 for the girl, 30 for the girl's drink and 20 for entrance. That's 180 pesos. Damn good for Recoleta.

I'd like to give credit to Apart Recoleta. After my first night here I asked if they could change the sheets. 10 minutes later, they were changed. Yesterday they changed them again before I could even ask. Some how they have a way of knowing when you aren't there. There´s no do not disturb sign on the door. But I've never had housekeeping knock and wake me up. But sure enough, I find the room clean the first time I leave and come back for the day.

Today I go on a quest for the $3(USD) BJs of legend in Moron. Wish me luck.

JustGotBack
03-18-03, 14:33
Originally posted by Yeah Baby
Hi outofthegame,

I mention this because its important for all that are going down to B.A. not to confuse shagging with love. These girls are working for the money, occassionally, they do fall for someone, however that is an exception. Remember these girls are working and want your repeat business, of course there going to treat you well. Don't get confuse with a pro that gives you a GFE, it is an illusion and not an actual a GFE. Have fun. I´d just like to chime in with this point. The girls I know in the clubs have been telling me that all these Americans are telling them that they are in love with them. Some of them even say that they shouldn't have to pay because they, the girl and the guy, are both in love. Ah... no. They're doing this to make a living. Treat them right guys.

Yeah Baby
03-18-03, 18:10
Just booked my return trip to B.A. - Groovy. Will be arriving on April 17th for a weekend of shagging, if anyone is interested in meeting up with me, just let me know. Want to send out a big thanks to Gabriel for hanging out with me a couple of times on my last trip, should have mention it before. By the way Gabriel regarding your antique wall clock, I'm as curious as outofthegame, how does it look on your mantle, funny story and I hope he shares it with all.

I'm surprise that there are no recent mentions regarding Periplo Bar across from the Mariott Hotel (address: Marcelo T. de Alvear 554) this is a very nice bar and a great place/atmosphere to get a late evenning drink (7:00pm or so) prior to going to the other late night spots. I have on occassion come across some nice gems in this location. Yes, the woman here are older (late 20's to early 30's) but in general they are in very good condition, well dressed and educated. The prices are similar to other places, approximately 200 pesos for 2 hours or so. My last report is about two to three weeks old, anyone have any recent experiences here?

I would also like to mention that I find it interesting that some guys on this forum agree that the girls are working and that is there principal motivation for being at whatever place we find them at, yet, some of the same guys refuse to give out there names, numbers, or some form of contact number. Come on guys, give up the info., were just clients to them.

Hope to here from some of you going down in April. Also, thanks to all who are currently reporting on the situation in B.A. and keeping the rest of us informed. Treat the girl right and have fun shagging.

JustGotBack
03-18-03, 18:41
I'm writing this post from the fine city of Moron. Based on Andres's fine directions, I had no problem's getting here. Once here, I found the place by shear luck. Here's how to get there from the train station. As you exit the station there will be a street on the right called 25 de Mayo. This street will intersect A. Brown after a couple of blocks. Make a right and walk a couple of blocks. A. Brown 1013 will be on your right. This is a building with a bunch of floors and a bunch of buttons to push. I took the chance and hit the one with the big red arrow pointed at it. It´s labeled "Planta Baja". You´ll here a voice on the intercom. Other than hola, I had no idea what he was saying to me. I just said Si. A guy comes out and let's you in. Don´t worry even though the guy looks unsavory and he ends up locking you in. He explained the procedure to me which I didn´t undestand. But because of MCSE´s post, I knew what to expect. Bring small bills. I only had a 50 and had to go get change. They don't take dollar bills. Once you pay, they give you a ticket and a condom and you go into the waiting area. It sure is dark, but brightly lit compared to the room. There was one guy waiting. Vanessa came out and said hi. Even though it was dark, she was pretty hot. Blond, maybe 5'8" and with a good body and I think a pretty face. The other guy choose her right away. She was only gone about 5 minutes and came back out to me. She said vamanos and I got up. She kept knocking on the door of the room trying to get the other guy to leave. Get dress quickly. I said la boca and we got into it. I knew there was no way I was going to finish in 5 minutes after 3 nights of bliss in BA so I told her it was OK if I didn't cum. Let´s just say it was the best 3 dollar BJ I´ve ever gotten. Sure it's the only 3 dollar BJ I've ever gotten, but it still was good. Even though it was quick, I didn't feel rushed at all. She even made some small talk before we started. I dressed quickly and left the room just in time for her to come in with the next guy. I think she was the only one working.

So if you´re bored in the afternoon and want some quick and rediculously cheap action. Come on down to Moron. It's also good to see the burbs around BA.

Why aren't there places like this in the US?

Let the legend grow.

Chop
03-18-03, 21:34
Well, after a brief absence, chop is back at it.

I finally did hit the wall, and caught a nasty little cold. Went to the pharmacy (an adventure in intercultural communications in and of itself), and got some kick ass meds. No Idea what the hell it is, but if it was sold over the counter in the US, someone would be carted off in cuffs. Great shit. Took one and proceeded to sleep for 24 hrs. solid. Note to self: be careful with those little gems!

So me & RO pick up where we left off, exploring the strip of clubs down Hook way. Again we didn’t get very far. Oh…let’s not forget the traditional stop at Madaho’s. Can you see a pattern forming here? RO doesn’t want to be seen in Hook, as apparently his last conquest there is now in love with him. Another pattern forming I’m afraid. How many novias you got running around this town, huh bud? The Italian booty gettin' machine has charm! The girls love him. We hit the joint next door (gattos?) and once again I go off the game plan, and get seduced by a fine little Argentine. I swear, one of these nights I'm gonna get just the type I go out looking for, but this girl just had such a pretty face. What could I do? She was great. Had to throw her out the next morning, as she was looking like she wanted to stick around for good. Best Spanish lesson I've had by a long shot. Nothing like learning a new language from a naked hottie who just got done fucking your brains out. Pay attention class!

So in the interest of sticking to the game plan (and maybe getting a little more sleep), I believe that next up is a few calls to Roxanna. Then I'm sure to get what I set out for, plus earlier appointments. Plus if I don't get just what I'm looking for, there's always time afterwards to go out for more!

Havin' a hell of a good time!

Seriously

;^)

Dave

Leo
03-19-03, 01:30
speaking of periplo, anyone ever notice the blond bartender? anyone ever hook up with her? i originally saw her on the street near plaza martin one past trip, and followed her into periplo only to discover she works there...

Yeah Baby
03-19-03, 11:09
Hello Leo,

If your talking about the young blond with the hard body which is a Cristina Aquilera lookalike, I know the one. I overheard her talking to her friends (chicas in the bar) and apparently she use go out with customers but not anymore, apparently, she now has a serious relationship. I also heard her take a phone call from her boyfriend that same night which confirmed what I thought I had heard her tell her friends. She really looks out of place behind the bar. When I was there she was still learning how to mix drinks and she was wearing hip hugging jeans, a waist necklace/chain the danggled from her waist down the crack of her ass, she also wore a small top and had her hair done, aka the Bo Derek look, she was very sexy looking, in a cheap way. Not really in line with the military "captain" look of the other waiters but a hell of alot better to look at. By the way, is Natalia still working there, you can't miss her. She short, very very dark skin, great smile and a hard body. Let me tell you, she was worth taking out. Hopes this helps. Have fun shagging.

JustGotBack
03-19-03, 14:44
I started off last night going to my usual spot, Madahos. I got my first "Fuck You!!" last night. It was bound to happen. It happens every trip. I made the rounds to say hi to all the people I know and I went up to the girl I took out on Sunday. I've seen here every time I've been down here. Unfortunately she saw me leave Monday night with the 11 from my previous post. She was not happy at all. She just walked away from me when I went up and then kept giving me these angry looks and then turning away. I went up to say hi and she says "Fuck You!!". I don't think I helped matters by laughing and smiling. I thought she was just joking because she's the one who complains about guys saying they are in love with her. But by the time I left, I think she was serious. She wanted to have dinner, but I guess that's off now. By the way, I think the dancers there work now. I didn't think so, but I saw that one of the dancers came down and sat with a guy at a sofa after her set.

I headed out to the downtown clubs. I browsed Gattos looking for the Anime girl I saw last time. Not there so I went next door to Hooks. I grabbed a drink and watched the show. There were doable girls but why just get doable when you can get perfect elsewhere. One of the dancers was perfect though, but I don't think she was working.

Thus, I went home alone for the first night. I'll just have to double up today.

I also blew it with my attempt at non pro action. There's this lovely waitress I've been chatting up for a year now. We've been emailing since my last trip. We were supposed to hook up this trip, but she saw me head into Apart Recoleta with a girl the other night. She works in restaurant row there. She doesn't answer my emails anymore.

Guillermo
03-19-03, 15:59
Justgotback,

Does the 11 from Madahos have a name?

Thanks,

Guillermo

Dickhead
03-19-03, 16:18
Sounds like JGB is running into a few "celosas." What a bummer. I haven't found the BA girls to be jealous. His experiences sound like Mexico where cat fights are common and all the P4P girls are jealous of each other. How ridiculous is it for women who sleep with guys for money to expect them to be loyal?

I guess I am lucky because my amigovia (who is not working) says we are "sin compromiso" and I can do what I want. I do think she is more jealous than she lets on but the minute she starts showing it, I am down the road.

I did have someone say "fuck you" to me, twice, on my last trip down there but it wasn't a chica!

OttoGraham
03-19-03, 16:44
Originally posted by Guillermo
Justgotback,

Does the 11 from Madahos have a name?

Thanks,

Guillermo

Guillermo, I'll wager 50 centavos that it is "Iforgot" or "NoneOfYourDamnBusiness"! :D

Guillermo
03-19-03, 17:09
Uncle Otto,

Hey, you can't blame a fella for trying.

MCSE
03-19-03, 18:32
Originally posted by justgotback
I'm writing this post from the fine city of Moron. ...
Let the legend grow.

Wow, that's cool justgoback, reading your post it's like to be there again!
3 things:
1.The guy welcome speech, only for the first time you are seen there is:
"The advertised price is right, you can choose vaginal or blow-job and there is no rush, you have a
free drink and you MUST to buy a condom for an extra ar$1".
Then, the girl ask you what service you want for your ar$8, either vaginal sex or blowjob.
2.As I said, if you tip the girl with :
ar$2 is both vaginal and blowjob;
ar$5 is vaginal+blowjob+assfucking (Sol, a beauty short hair blonde doesn't do assfucking so you better ask before you get into the room)
ar$5 to the girl + ar$2 to the guy when you are just inside, it's no rush at all. (You have to say that at the same time you give the peso-bucks)
3.Most of the time there are 2 or 3 girls. The place have only 3 rooms.
But what justgoback said is true, sometimes there is only one girl available.

Dickhead
03-19-03, 18:39
Originally posted by OttoGraham
Guillermo, I'll wager 50 centavos that it is "Iforgot" or "NoneOfYourDamnBusiness"! :D

Maybe her name is Once.

Andres
03-19-03, 18:58
Originally posted by Dickhead
How ridiculous is it for women who sleep with guys for money to expect them to be loyal?



Dickhead:

Expectations work in both ways: Some guys have the fantasy of falling in love with a chica, and some chicas have the fantasy of getting serious with a guy.

In fact, in the case of the chicas, it is more understandable: Between being a "soccer mom" or a "sucker mom", girls would almost always choose the former.

Andres

JamesBond69
03-19-03, 19:47
Originally posted by Andres
Dickhead:

Expectations work in both ways: Some guys have the fantasy of falling in love with a chica, and some chicas have the fantasy of getting serious with a guy.

In fact, in the case of the chicas, it is more understandable: Between being a "soccer mom" or a "sucker mom", girls would almost always choose the former.

Andres The relationship between the chicas and the mongers can be very complex. Neither are machines; although money is involved the relationship can lead in other directions and become something else.

You have to exercise caution, as there is certain economic desperation involved on the chica side (often single moms) and emotional desperation on the side of many mongers.

JustGotBack
03-19-03, 20:32
Guillermo, let me think about giving you her name. I want to maximize my chances of seeing her again while I'm down here. Here's a clue though. As far as looks go, I would give her an 8. What drew my eye to her was the bubbly way she walked. That and the fact that she was wearing a naughty version of a catholic school girl uniform. Maybe it was what she used to wear at school. What makes her a 11 in my book, was her performance. She was by far, the closest to a very naughty GFE I've ever had. That and the fact that she not only let me take pictures of everything she did, but seemmed to like it.

I went to Bonnefemme this afternoon. It's only about a 10 minute walk from Etoile and Apart Recoleta. The cool part is even if you just want to order the girls in for delivery, one of the madames speaks English so that's good for the non Spanish speakers. I wanted to do an incall to see if it would be good for my last day here when my flight leaves at 10 at night and I wouldn't have a place anymore. The good thing is that they have a shower, the bad thing is that there isn't any soap. Maybe I'll bring my own. Going in you also get to have a look at the available girls. I called then showed up and the madame showed me all 4 girls working. While they are the same girls on the website, those pictures must have been taken a while ago. If this was Madahos, I wouldn't have picked any of them. Since I had browsed the website, I had a girl in mind. Her name is Leila. She wasn't in the lineup so I just asked if she was available. The madame said wait 10 minutes. 10 minutes later she came in through the door. She's a fiery redhead in her pictures, but she's a much darker shade now. She was very good though. I give her performance a 10. She even gave me a RJ without me asking. So if you're into that, ask for her. The service was no rush at all. We talked for a while before we started and I thought I was in there for a long time and half expected the phone to ring saying we were out of time. But after we were done, we spent 10 or so more minutes talking before the phone rang. I checked my watch when I left, I was in there for an hour and a half. Good value for 150 pesos.

What to do tonight, Madaho's again or Nuevo Estilo? Time is running short, I leave on Friday.

My useless comment of the post. Say what you will about the US. But I dare anyone to challenge the supremcy of Amercian shower curtain technology. No matter what I do, I always step into a puddle of water after I take a shower.

Dickhead
03-19-03, 20:34
Well, I don't understand a guy falling for a working girl any more than I understand a working girl being jealous. Maybe I've just done too much mongering for too many years, but I don't understand "emotional desperation on the part of mongers." I'm sure it exists but to me it is just contradictory to the entire point of being a monger, which to me is sex without all the emotional involvement and hassles of a relationship. Like, I'm sure my amigovia would love to have a "relationship" with me but I'm just not interested. I'm probably just a total Dickhead. I do realize from reading the board that there are a lot of suckers out there, like the guy recently referred to who gave his chica money so that she wouldn't have to work for a while and then she was working the next day. Or, these guys on the Thailand board who go there one time and want to marry some prostitute, or the ones who send her money after they get back home. I suppose perhaps there is a middle ground between being a sucker and being a Dickhead? I think if you are looking for a relationship you should not be mongering and if you are mongering you should not be looking for a relationship, although I guess shit happens sometimes.

I don't think married guys should monger either, although that might be more of an American perspective than a Dickhead perspective. Just my opinion as always.

Dickhead
03-19-03, 20:38
Originally posted by justgotback

My useless comment of the post. Say what you will about the US. But I dare anyone to challenge the supremcy of Amercian shower curtain technology. No matter what I do, I always step into a puddle of water after I take a shower.

Also we lead the world in toilet paper, at least from a value (quality divided by price) standpoint. BTW I notice a lot of the chicas shower with the curtain open (???) so maybe that explains the puddle on the floor?

rob_roy5
03-19-03, 21:05
Originally posted by jamesbond69
The relationship between the chicas and the mongers can be very complex. Neither are machines; although money is involved the relationship can lead in other directions and become something else.

You have to exercise caution, as there is certain economic desperation involved on the chica side (often single moms) and emotional desperation on the side of many mongers.

Hi boys,
on this issues, I have an "aminovia" or "amigovia" in Madahos, met her last Tuesday in there for the first time, paid 200 Arg Pesos for 2 hours, repeated (firs time ever I repeated with an escort) following day, same price .... she is Belen, 28 yrs (I'm 29yrs), very naturally tanned skin, great body, dresses very well and classy, unlike most of the other girls in there who just make me laugh, in Europe they wouldn't let them any club dressed like them, illegal dressing ;-)) ... anyway, didn´t see her Thurs and Friday (she was not working) but talked to her on the phone twice, met her Saturday, just me and her, for cinema (Recoleta village, "The Hours", great movie, fortunately it was in English with subtitles) and then "nornal" dance clubs Buenos Aires News, Pacha and a huge new one called Big One, back to my place 8am she stayed till 3pm, had 2 shots on target, didn't pay her any money, and few times in the clubs she asked to pay for drinks ..... On Sunday night again just the 2 of us, como una novia, dinner in a place called "LA Rosa Negra" (pretty fare away, 18 Arg pesos taxi bill to give you an idea, passed the Hippodromo) and then romentic walk in Costanera Sur at 3am, back to my place, other 2 shots on target, didn't pay her anything, last nite at 10pm dinner in Museo Renault, classy place, I loved the location but food was nothing special and service was mediocre for BA (and European) standards ... I escorted her to Madahos at 1am, met in there with chop, left after 1 drink, went to Affaire and back to Madahos to pick her up at 4am, back to my place, she left today at 2pm, other 2 shots on target, tonight she is taking the night off to come with us (me, chop and a US friend of mine who lives here) to Asia de Cuba (Wednesday is the biggest nite in there) .... In Madahos (after 11 nights in a row of going there) I know almost all the girls (140 in total in the book, insider information), greet and talk to most of them and my babe doesn't get upset or annoyed, as I don't when I see her talking or having drinks with other potential customers in the club ...

All of this to say that a special friendship can happen, girlies are not all clock-watchers, not always they want just your money, it all depends in the one you meet ... ofcourse it helps if you are young, in good shape, look good, speak a decent Spanish and maybe ITALIAN :-))) ..... only messing

Just my 2 cents worth ....

Ciao, RO

P.S. Forgot to say .... shifts in Madahos for taking a girl out is 1 hour and 30 minutes ... you negotiate the price wit her and she gets 100% of what you pay to her but, if she gets back to the club after 2 hours she has to pay a fine of 30 Arg Pesos, out of her pocket .... this rule doesn't apply if you take the girl out after 3.30am ... because it would be already 5am and wouldn't make any sense for her to go back there ... morale: if you want to go for an TLN, take her out after 3.30am .... also, for each drink you pay for her (30 Arg pesos) she gets a 5 Arg pesos commission ... evereything is well organized and works smoothly ..... insider nformation ---

Chop
03-19-03, 21:19
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dickhead

to me it is just contradictory to the entire point of being a monger, which to me is sex without all the emotional involvement and hassles of a relationship.

This reminds me of one of my all time favorite quotes, which I of course stole from this board.

"Dont think of it as paying for sex, think of it as paying them to go away when you're done"

Poetry


Dave

Dickhead
03-19-03, 21:24
Ah yes, the infamous "*****" or "AdleZ," now reincarnated in toned-down fashion as Samus Aran. Now if the hooker is an interesting person there is no reason not be friends with them. I don't want to give the impression that I think a hooker is not worthy of any other form of interaction; I don't think that. But it did freak me out a little bit when one showed up unannounced at my hotel with a gift for me. I banged her again anyway but it raised my caution level considerably. Maybe some day I will be in the market for a relationship but right now I definitely am NOT.

JamesBond69
03-19-03, 21:32
Originally posted by Chop
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dickhead

to me it is just contradictory to the entire point of being a monger, which to me is sex without all the emotional involvement and hassles of a relationship.

This reminds me of one of my all time favorite quotes, which I of course stole from this board.

"Dont think of it as paying for sex, think of it as paying them to go away when you're done"

Poetry


Dave

As a monger ideally is only interested in sex without the emotional involvement you could also say that the prositute is a monger's perfect match, as by the very nature of being a prostitute is not to have any emotional involvement, reducing her body to a commodity for rent by the hour/day/week.

But my personal experience in BA and from reading this forum and others that some times the chicas do get jealous, and sometimes the mongers do get involved with the chicas in non monger "sentimental ways".

This all goes back to my initial statement, that the relationship is far more complicated then it seems, as it involves humans with feelings, not machines with mere body parts:-)

The cautious monger is one who is clever enough to know fact from fiction.

Yeah Baby
03-19-03, 21:55
Here we go again. These girls are WORKING! I agree 100% percent with dickhead. Were paying for a service so we shouldn't have any of the usual emotional hang ups that are normally associated in relationships with women. Yes, were humans and not machine and because of that very fact we should use are heads. Relationships are normally a messy business, add to the equation that the chica your falling "in love with" has been selling her body on a regular basis and that will probably take its toll somewhere along the line. These girls are very nice and friendly but I ask you the following; a chica that sells her body, for whatever the reasons, is capable of what else? Will she really be faithful in a relationship or when a more attractive or wealthier guy comes along will she think thats more attractive or a better "soccer mom"?


The gift I mentioned in my previous report so that the girl wouldn't have to work for awhile was, ready for this, approximately US$1800 dollars - ouch, alot of good that did. As for Rob Roy, of course the girls are going to dig you, your taking your chica to great clubs, bars and resturants that she probably couldn't afford on her own unless you took her. I'm sure that many will argue that the chicas like them because their young, good looking or because you treat them with respect, come on now, I'm 39 but look much younger, attractive, successful, and speak spanish fluently and I too like to take one of this nice girls out once in awhile and treat them with respect but I don't loss my bearings and neither should anyone else.

One last point, if I were to meet a working chica that looks like either Britney Spears, Faith Hill, Brook Burke or Shania Twain and is a great shagg, I will disregard all that I have mentioned above and probably give the chica all that she wants. Maybe not, than again?

Have fun shagging.

Dickhead
03-19-03, 22:10
Originally posted by Yeah Baby

The gift I mentioned in my previous report so that the girl wouldn't have to work for awhile was, ready for this, approximately US$1800 dollars - ouch, alot of good that did.

Oh, my goodness. So 5500 pesos? To put that in perspective, my amigovia's rent is 150 pesos a month. Granted her place is a dump but that would pay this sweet, hard-working woman's rent for three years. She gets 2 pesos for sewing on a button, 5 pesos for hemming a pair of pants or replacing 2 pockets, and a lot of times she can't afford to eat.

The day I left, we were in the Disco so I could buy some tea and alfajores for an Argentinean friend I have here in the States. A middle-class woman ahead of us was buying one of those things you hang in your toilet bowl to sanitize it (among other things, of course). Marta didn't know what it was, so she asked the woman. The woman explained what it was and said, "It is not expensive, only about five pesos." Marta told me, "I could eat for several days on the money that woman is flushing down her toilet; why doesn't she just clean it?"

I guess I'm a sucker too because before I left I gave her not $1800, not $180 but *** $25 (US) *** and she was so grateful she had tears in her eyes ...

JamesBond69
03-19-03, 22:24
Originally posted by Yeah Baby

One last point, if I were to meet a working chica that looks like either Britney Spears, Faith Hill, Brook Burke or Shania Twain and is a great shagg, I will disregard all that I have mentioned above and probably give the chica all that she wants. Maybe not, than again?

Have fun shagging. [/i]

This is an interesting thread but I don't know if we should continue it much further, as it is not an exchange of practical information but of ideas.

I will add that mongers aren't that different from prostitutes who are looking for a better deal....there deal may be based more on money but the monger deal could be based on perceived higher chica quality ie Britney Spears, Faith Hill, Brook Burke or Shania Twain.

My only point is that you have to be cautious. The situation is complicated and sometimes can be quite dramatic.

Leo
03-20-03, 14:10
Wow, rob_roy, great post!

Now that's some useful info - most useful info out of a post in a while. So it seems if you want a TDL out of Madahos you need only give the girl once at your place ar$30-50 extra, and she'd be totally covered (assuming she want's to forgo the opportunity to attempt at a second takeout of the evening to stay with you).

JustGotBack
03-20-03, 15:16
I started off the night by going to Nuevo Estilo last night. I got there about 11:45 and the place was packed. I've never seen so many people in there. The strip and lesbian show was in full swing. The second I sat down at a stool by the bar, this girl came up and staddled my leg. This was unusual since the girls here don't approach you. You have to approach them, I left her there until the show was over. Then she asked if I wanted to go to a salon, they're the rooms upstairs, I said not right now. She moved on. Cold fish Carla wasn't quite as cold to me anymore. She looked over and actually smiled. I finished my beer and headed over to her. She remembered my name and where I was from. We had a little chat and then I asked if she would like to go up to a salon. We headed up. I only intended to get a quick 30 minute BJ to prime the pump as it were. But even doing calculus in my head couldn't prevent me from finishing. I had past the point of no return. She just has this incredibly lovely face. This time she didn't just throw a towel at me. She asked if I would come back downstairs for a drink. 125 pesos for 30 minutes. 15 pesos for entrance with 1 drink. 15 pesos or so to get there and back from Recoleta.

Since I was done for the night. I thought about going to Blacks just to scout. But I wanted to make contact with my 11 again at Madaho's so I headed there. The place was packed as usual. I didn't look forward to running into the girl that's currently mad at me. I ran into her friend that I always give cigarettes to. She said to come over and talk to the mad girl. I said she doesn't like me right now. She said that she was just nervous, so I headed over to say hi. I'll leave out the details, but she ended up using the L word on me. Great. Anyways we run into another forum reader I met here on Saturday. They get to talking which allowed me a chance to look around for my 11. She's no where to be found. In fact, I haven't seen here since the night I took her out. I hope she didn't quit after her first night. Maybe it's time to use her email address. Being done for the night I said my goodbyes, which led to a pout from the formerly mad girl, and left. Going back to Madahos is going to be interesting now.

Dashing Don
03-20-03, 17:15
Dickhead's report left me with tears in MY eyes--from laughing. $25 indeed!! The reports on the BA board are truly amazing. From Saint, who appears to be a champagne-sipping aristocrat, constructing his real estate empire, to DH, scouring the streets for the cheapest ho he can find, in between his visits to prison.

Anyway....I'm coming. To BA that is. Arriving on Sunday, April 26 and leaving on Saturday, May 3. I'm interested in meeting up with any players who may be there at that time. I haven't booked a hotel yet. On my recent hobbying trips to Asia, I got used to paying $100 a night for 5-star accommodation, usually with a nice pool, which I like. I expect to pay more in BA. I'll probably seek Roxanna's expertise on this and other matters.

I visited the city in '96 and '99, although not to monger. Took tango lessons and managed to nail a fellow classmate. That was a kind of cultural exchange. Astor Piazzola playing while banging her in a cheap hotel at the rear of the Alvear Palace Hotel. I don't miss those one dollar for one peso days. Now, I'm looking forward to lots of great grass-fed steaks and beautiful women in the most gracious city in South America. Hopefully I'll get a chance to express my gratitude to Don Jackson (Yup Jackson, here comes another free $4 steak dinner :)

Players, anyone??

Don

JPF
03-20-03, 18:19
My two cents worth on the "falling in love" theme.

To me it's all about the head versus heart (or perhaps more appropriately for this board the big head versus the little head). When the head is in control one sees the economic relationship between monger and chica. When the heart gets involved it's about relationships and feelings. And it's not either/or but a dimension along which all interactions fall--and each interaction is different so someone that is generally a "head" guy might fall into "heart" territory for a particular chica.

From my time with them I would place Dickhead and Chop (along with myself) at the "head" end of things whereas Rob Roy (perhaps being Italian) is more towards the "heart" side (but not all the way over). Their remarks reflect that.

JustGotBack
03-20-03, 19:53
Originally posted by Admin
Yeah Baby, Chop, Rob_Roy5 & JustGotBack,

I'm in BA. Let's meet before you leave. I've sent you an email with my cell phone #.

Jackson

Hey Jackson. Whatever email addr I used to sign up with is long gone by now. My ISP died. If you guys are meeting somewhere tonight, can you post the location and time?

rob_roy5
03-20-03, 21:30
Originally posted by Yeah Baby
Here we go again. These girls are WORKING! I agree 100% percent with dickhead. Were paying for a service so we shouldn't have any of the usual emotional hang ups that are normally associated in relationships with women. Yes, were humans and not machine and because of that very fact we should use are heads.


The gift I mentioned in my previous report so that the girl wouldn't have to work for awhile was, ready for this, approximately US$1800 dollars - ouch, alot of good that did. As for Rob Roy, of course the girls are going to dig you, your taking your chica to great clubs, bars and resturants that she probably couldn't afford on her own.

Have fun shagging.

Hi Yeah Baby,
I agree with almost all you remarks and I don't comment on the US$1,800 .... none of my business, it could be 18 (or Dickhead's 25) or 180 or 1,800 or even 18,000 ... totally up to you ... but I want to comment on 1 of your points: my Madahos' amigovia doesn´t expect anything from me, the 3 nights we had dinner together she suggested simple parrilla places in Recoleta (probably 15-20 pesos per head) and then I decided to go to better places ... on Sunday nite after dinner at 3am I proposed to go 2 the River Boat Casino and she said no, why not a nice walk in Costanera Sur ? I said OK honey, as you like, I know you are gonna make me happy later as soon as we go back to my place .... last nite she took the night off from work -- Madahos ;-) -- to stay with me and my friends, we went to Asia de Cuba -- best normal club in town on a Wednesday nite -- but she would have come anywere ... not a problem of place for her but of company ... I make her feel good and she does the same for me ...

All the girlies are different from each other and even the same girl may have very different attitudes (onda) with different clients (in Madahos) or people (out of Madahos) ....

Kind regards, RO

Dickhead
03-20-03, 21:33
Just to clarify, the woman I gave the $25 to is NOT a hooker.

OutoftheGame
03-21-03, 09:34
YEAH BABY,

If it's my buddy tour talking about giving her US$1800, I think you should take some of your own advice and not believe everything a girl tells you.I don't think he would fork over that kind of cash on her. I will call him later to confirm the real price. When I called him to tell him that she was back at work the following weekend he wasn't suprised, he really thinks she loves to f**k and if she can do that and get paid at the same time than more power to her.

OutoftheGame
03-21-03, 09:55
PART IV. CAFE ORLEANS PARTIAL CHICA INFO.

Sat. afternoon in BA and decided to hang out with El Ricardo and Gabriel. We decided to go check on Orleans and see what kind of talent was to be had. It was sometime around 3pm and maybe 20 girls hanging out. We sat down and soon had a couple of ladies talking with us,we offer them drinks since they don't charge an arm and a leg and I wanted to talk to someone in Spanish. The girl I was talking to name was Paulola. She had a great face and lovely long brown hair. She looked more Italian than anything.I was trying to get a better look at her body but couldn't see the ass to well, she had her clevage showing rather nicely. El Ricardo was sitting with Caroline, she was very affectionate but came to find out that she had ben drinking alot that day and even spilled beer all over the table and almost fell down the stairs going to the bathroom. This was a huge turn off. Gabriel got stuck with the runt of the litter some how a girl named Nancy. We had a few beers with them and Caroline was trying to convince all 6 of us to go back to her Apt and have fun. Well I was interested in Paulola but not into a group thing,I like my privacy. So we exchanged phone #'s and said we'd try to return the following week. One thing I did notice about the girls in Orleans is they all have cell phones and it's funny to see them answer and then get up and leave. I guess that is a true "BOOTY CALL". My other assesment after going to Orleans is that it is very fun to hang out and talk to the ladies but most of them seem to be just a step above being street walkers. Now maybe it's just me but I have a bad habit of looking at a girls toes or her fingernails to see if they are well taken care of,none of the ladies seemed to be extremely clean which did not make me want to see what they looked like naked. I know we all have are different tastes but I agree with Saint on the point of not doing a SW due to the fact that they just seem dirty. I'm sure they are not all this way it is just my observation and personal opinion.

OutoftheGame
03-21-03, 09:55
PART IV. CAFE ORLEANS PARTIAL CHICA INFO.

Sat. afternoon in BA and decided to hang out with El Ricardo and Gabriel. We decided to go check on Orleans and see what kind of talent was to be had. It was sometime around 3pm and maybe 20 girls hanging out. We sat down and soon had a couple of ladies talking with us,we offer them drinks since they don't charge an arm and a leg and I wanted to talk to someone in Spanish. The girl I was talking to name was Paulola. She had a great face and lovely long brown hair. She looked more Italian than anything.I was trying to get a better look at her body but couldn't see the ass to well, she had her clevage showing rather nicely. El Ricardo was sitting with Caroline, she was very affectionate but came to find out that she had ben drinking alot that day and even spilled beer all over the table and almost fell down the stairs going to the bathroom. This was a huge turn off. Gabriel got stuck with the runt of the litter some how a girl named Nancy. We had a few beers with them and Caroline was trying to convince all 6 of us to go back to her Apt and have fun. Well I was interested in Paulola but not into a group thing,I like my privacy. So we exchanged phone #'s and said we'd try to return the following week. One thing I did notice about the girls in Orleans is they all have cell phones and it's funny to see them answer and then get up and leave. I guess that is a true "BOOTY CALL". My other assesment after going to Orleans is that it is very fun to hang out and talk to the ladies but most of them seem to be just a step above being street walkers. Now maybe it's just me but I have a bad habit of looking at a girls toes or her fingernails to see if they are well taken care of,none of the ladies seemed to be extremely clean which did not make me want to see what they looked like naked. I know we all have are different tastes but I agree with Saint on the point of not doing a SW due to the fact that they just seem dirty. I'm sure they are not all this way it is just my observation and personal opinion.

OutoftheGame
03-21-03, 10:32
PART V. 2ND nite in BA,flying solo.CHICA INFO.

Well after hanging out with El Ricardo and Gabriel during earlier I was left solo since everyone seemed to have plans with "girlfriends". Later I found out that Sat nite is a good nite to spend with a girl since most take the nite off. Well I wanted to go check out the famous 2 girl show that happened at Nuevo Estillo. Luckily I had written the cross streets down to tell a cab driver (La Pampa and Figueroa Alcorte) even with this the cab driver had a hard time finding the place. Like mentioned before it is very well hidden and has no signs, it is just a brick building with restuarants on both sides. I made it in around 11:30pm and paid the 15 peso cover and was handed a ticket to cover my first drink. The guy sitting at the entrance asked where I was from and seemed suprised to have an American in the place, or at least one alone. It was very slow and quite inside a few of the girls where playing pool and the rest seemed busy in conversation to pay any attention to me. I sat at the bar and watched the girls playing pool since one reminded me of a girl on Platynum. I was trying to make eye contact hoping to be invited over or have he start talking to me. I didn't realize that they don't usually talk to you first you must approach them. After an hour the show started and had 2 dancers but not together just one after the other, and that was it the lights came back on. I was a little confused and decided to at least finish my drink and come back with Jackson to clue me in on things. Well about 45 min later it was time for another show, this time the first girl was followed by a 2 girl lesbian act. It was a real sight to see,I've been with tw girls at once but to see them doing this on stage for all of us to se, damn I just laugh now when I think of the idiots that spend hundreds of dollars in strip clubs in the US to look at a bunch of silicon. By the way the ladies that did the act are the 2 lovely blonds that have been discussed here recently. Now at this time the place is extremely crowed with big groups of guys,I imagine bacholar parties. So I start to worry I may not get a girl since many are occupied, just as I'm thinking this an attractive brunette comes by and introduces herself as LUZ. She has a nice body and is wearing a white lace body suit. The only draw back was one of her teeth weren't perfect, but I needed to do something. We chatted for awhile as I offered to buy her a drink, I really wanted to go back to my apt. with her which she didn't mind but she wouldn't be able to stay the whole nite. So I figured to just use one of the rooms upstairs. I forget what I was qouted for the half hour I just remember hearing 200 pesos for 1 hour. Now from what I remembered reading on the board about this place that seemed a little high I tried to lower to 100 pesos but no luck, now normally I would of walked away but it was late and most of the other girls are occupied so I give in. We go upstairs and this is what I don't understand about the place and maybe some of you can explain. I had to pay the guy at the top of the stairs the money and not her, is this mean that the girls only get a small portion of the actual money? Once in the room she is very nice and accomodating, we decide to shower together and then proceed to the bed, she did not perform BBBJ but again I never ask for this. Kissing was allowed anywehre and everywhere and she did do an excellent job of licking and playing with my balls with her tongue. I finished before the knock on the door and she didn't try to get dressed early, we just talked a bit more. Had no problem when I left getting a taxi, but it was a Sat. nite and the place was still crowded when I left around 4am.

Yeah Baby
03-21-03, 13:19
Hi outofthegame,

Hope to see you soon. I will returning to B.A. on April 17th for a long weekend and would like to meet up with fellow mongers.

First of all, pretty sure about the $1800 dollar gift given to the chica. The source of the information came from a mutual friend of ours and not the chica herself. Also, and this is pretty funny story if its true, I was told that after given the chica the gift, the subsequent sex with the chica was not up to the usual performance/standards. And, as a consequence, I was told that our friend sent the chica to get a massage at the hotel so that he could have some time alone to go through her purse and see if he could recovery some of the gift but no luck.

Also, forget about the nails and toes of the girls of Orleans, check out their teeth, nasty. Many chicas appear not to have basic dental care, many crooked teeths. In addition, most of these girls are heavy smokers and coffee drinkers and, as a consequence, your not going to see alot of pearly whites smiles looking back at you. By the way, the Italian looking girl that outofthegame mentions in Orleans is attractive and the only one a saw in their with a good smile.

Hope to see many of you soon in B.A. until than, keep shagging.

JustGotBack
03-21-03, 17:58
Last night was my last in BA. Sorry I missed you Jackson and Chop. I fell asleep and woke up at 10pm. Since you guys were meeting at 11pm, I didn't think you guys would be checking your email by then.

I went to Madahos in search of my 11. I was willing to risk reigniting the wraith of the jealous gril, but she was no where to be found. Maybe she only works enough to pay her expenses. I did think that asking for 130 pesos was kind of odd. It's not exactly a nice round number like 150 pesos. It might be just her rent for the month. Unlike the other girls who just say good night when they leave, she said have a good flight back. She knew that I wasn't leaving for 5 days. Oh well, if you read this post until the end, I'll be giving full disclosure on her. There were some very doable girls there, but not doable enough to risk the wraith of the jealous one. I though about taking her, but I wanted someone new. As for the loyalty of friends. The jealous one hangs out with this girl constantly. Last night when the jealous one went to the bathroom, her friend asked me if I wanted to go back to my hotel. She knows the jealous one hates it when I leave with anyone else. So much for loyalty. Hey Dickhead, I think I met your Amigovia there last night. We had a nice little chat.

I left Madahos and went to Affaire. Not much in there, but I was determined to not go home alone. This tall young girl came up to me on my stool and started giving me a little standing lap dance. After a few minutes of that I gave in and we headed across the street to my hotel. It turns out she's 18 years old. Really pretty face. When will I learn not to pick the really young ones? They just don't know what they are doing. I had to show her how to roll the condom on after she tried to put it on by unrolling it onto her fingers then stretching it and trying to snap it onto me. Can we say ouch? She was also afraid that it was going to pop off during the BJ and kept pulling it down. This just compressed my little head and I couldn't feel a thing. If I wasn't watching, I wouldn't have been able to tell I was getting a BJ. Overall, I'll give her a 2 for performance + 1 for being a genuinely sweet girl. That's makes her a 3 on my BA scale. I felt kind of sad when she opened up her wallet to put the money I gave her in. There wasn't even a centavo in there. Her name is Veronica. I'd steer clear of her for at least a year or so until she get's the hang of it. 150 pesos for the girl, 20 pesos for her drink and 20 pesos for my entrance with 3 drinks. I never get more than one drink though. You can ask for a one drink ticket for 15 pesos.

If you've stuck with me this far, here's my full disclosure on my Madaho's 11. Her name is Lorena. She's about 5' 8" with her heels on. She's thin, maybe a b cup, long dark hair and can generally be taken for Pennelope Cruz at 5 meters. She's 22 years old and very sweet. I'll warn you though that she's very tight. I'm not the biggest man in the world and I had to work at it to get it in. So I don't want to hear any complaints!!!

I always think a week isn't enough time before I come, but it's just about right. I know I've hit the wall when deciding to spend 150 pesos at Bonnefemme and buying a pair of shoes, I decide to buy the shoes.

Signing out.

B69
03-21-03, 18:00
Hey Dashing Don,

I plan on going back to BA around those dates (was there in December). Arriving on the 26th of April and leaving on May3rd as well.

Send me an e-mail at b69pat@hotmail.com and we can hook up there.

Looking forward.

Hysteromania
03-21-03, 18:25
justgotback,
Seems odd that my girl on her first night also asked me 130 at Madahos too. Was a b-cup also and had black curls in hair although some resemblence to Penelope Cruis. Please send email as I believe we may know her, I can send you a pic. Her name was Natalia though but she did give me her email and cell #. hysteromaniaatyahoo.com

rob_roy5
03-21-03, 20:59
Originally posted by justgotback
Last night was my last in BA. Sorry I missed you Jackson and Chop. I fell asleep and woke up at 10pm. Since you guys were meeting at 11pm, I didn't think you guys would be checking your email by then.

I went to Madahos in search of my 11. If you've stuck with me this far, here's my full disclosure on my Madaho's 11. Her name is Lorena. She's about 5' 8" with her heels on. She's thin, maybe a b cup, long dark hair and can generally be taken for Pennelope Cruz at 5 meters. She's 22 years old and very sweet.



Hey justgotback,
pity we (myself and chop) missed you (or you missed us) last nite since we were in the same place aroud 2am!!!
But still don't understand why you didn't contasct us (me and chop) before since we have been staying in BA for 2 weeks now and we posted our e-mail addresses few times ...

Last nite we were supposed to meet Jackson at his place at 11pm but we didn't make it until 11.45pm, stayed in his cool place (congratulations Boss ! Really nice, best I have ever seen in BA, locationwise and designwise, was great meeting you !!! Keep up the good work !!!) for an hour and then the 3 of us hit Playwomen.

I can confirm the place is up and running again, in full (or almost full) speed, the Boss greeted at the door like a king, few cuties inside, we have a drink, we chat few of the girlies for a while and we leave after 1 hour for Madahos.

Over there Jackson knows all the "workers" and is greeted by many of them ... me and chop have a look around, my amigovia is not "working" tonite but I know already I won't take anybody out of there for not creating any problem with her for tonite (my last nite in HEAVEN).

Instead keep on looking and on flirting with 2 (out of the 3) girlie bartenders, Silvina that I noticed before and the other lovely one, Liliana, talk to her for a while, she complains because in almost 2 weeks it's the first time I talk to her, there are not many customers around so she has got time for chatting ... she speaks a bit of Italian and we flirt for a long while at the bar ... I guess she is girlfriend material .... I stay there talking to her till 5am when I leave alone .. at this stage Jackson had left around 3.30am (not alone but with a cute ... and horny ... blondie) and chop had left around 4.15am ....
Looking forward to my last "romantic" nite with Belen, dinner don't know where yet (possibly "Azul Profundo" in Avenida Libertador, 5 blocks from where I live, great .... and cheap ... compared to Dublin and London ... for sushi and tempura ... was there last November), cinema and then normal dance clubs like Pacha, La Diosa, Il Divino de BA, BA News, Big One ....

Very sad to leave, especially now that the weather is perfect (25 degrees dry, not hot and sticky as in my first few days) and my Castellano is up to speed ... trying to check for a long weekend around Eastern ... fingers crossed !!!

Ciao, RO

P.S. Thank you for the info and description of your "11", last nite me and Jackson were wondering about her ....

Dickhead
03-21-03, 21:23
Originally posted by justgotback
Hey Dickhead, I think I met your Amigovia there last night. We had a nice little chat.

Could be (I doubt it), but what makes you think so? You can backchannel my hot mail account if you prefer: Richardhead41

DH

OutoftheGame
03-22-03, 08:53
YEAH BABY,

Well I guess GABRIEL was drinking a little to much than, I did tell him the story about the purse. This is what happened. My buddy had been seeing this girl for a few nites in a row at this time and going out to dinner with her so she wouldn't even bother going to work just spent her whole time with her. Well he was only giving her 200 pesos a day. After a few days of this he noticed the sex getting more bland and was starting to get bored with her so he figured that if he paid her more money than that would ignite the fire back in her.........well after he gave her the money which was US$400 the sex wasn't any better. Now he was really pissed off. So she left to go take a shower and for a brief instance he thought about taking the money back, he swears that he wouldn't of actually taken the money back but who knows, he looks in her purse and can't find it, maybe the girls worry more about us taking money from them than them taking it from us. When she returns to bed he asks her why the sex has gotten worse and she explains that Argentine men are much more sexual and she likes to have sex at least 3 times in a row and he wasn't doing enough for her. Being a stand up American he decided to show her that he can out last any Argentine man and the rest of thier time he constantly had sex to keep her happy. This is why he got the feeling that she actually enjoys her job and might not look at it as a negitive thing.
So when he got back to the US he wanted to send her money so she wouldn't have to work so much, he tells her to go tho Western Union and pick up some money but she tells him not to bother she has plenty of money because she has been working alot. So he's all confused right now. At least she's honest and not trying to get easy money out of him.

Andres
03-22-03, 15:54
Originally posted by outofthegame


[snip]

After a few days of this he noticed the sex getting more bland and was starting to get bored with her so he figured that if he paid her more money than that would ignite the fire back in her.........well after he gave her the money which was US$400 the sex wasn't any better.

[snip]

So when he got back to the US he wanted to send her money so she wouldn't have to work so much, he tells her to go tho Western Union and pick up some money but she tells him not to bother she has plenty of money because she has been working alot. So he's all confused right now. At least she's honest and not trying to get easy money out of him.

I dont' know if I should comment on this because it may ignite a flame war. However, I do so because it will help you to understand the Argentine cultural coordinates in this issue.

2 issues:

1) Whoever thinks that paying lots of money to a girl guarantees better sex or a better experience is deeply wrong. Girls are in this business for money, but they are still human beings.

2) Bearing a given passport doesn't assess the quality of sexual experience in bed (which in turn is not a mathematical linear function of the number of sex rounds or "pumping minutes").

When a girl starts making excuses (money, sex quality based on citizenship, etc) is because she doesn't like her male company. Tough but simple.

Hope this helps,

Andres

StamfordGuy
03-22-03, 16:15
I will be travelling to Buenos Aires in April so I've been reading up and liking what I read. I checked out the Escort Agencys on the links provided by this site and one of them as prices starting at $100. Can some one tell me if that means American dollars or pesos. I have to do incall because I'll be sharing an apartment and I have to be discrete. I will be staying in Recolate(sp?) area.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Jim

Hi Jim,

This question has been answered several times already, including just a few weeks ago. Please read the prior postings.

Jackson

PS Let me know where you get here and we'll go mongering.

OttoGraham
03-22-03, 17:06
As usual, Andres gives correct and useful advice!

When the sex with a trixie goes downhill, no sense in trying to get it going better - what do you think she is, a girlfriend/wife? ROFLMAO!!! Kick her ass out and find yourself a new friend.

I am in BA next week, email my handle at warm mail dot com to discuss maybe some getting together, you on-site mongers.

-Uncle Otto

OutoftheGame
03-22-03, 17:45
No flame war at all Andres, I agree with your point but from what my buddy tells me the sex got better when he started having more with her. The thing I don't understand is he had sex with other women there that was as good or better but he is stuck on this girl for some reason. The guy is middle age and has never been married so its not like he's the type to fall for a girl. I even suggested to go back to BA in May but he thinks if he goes back to BA that he'll end up screwing around on her since the oppertunity to meet other girls is so high. When he told me that I couldn't stop laughing and asked him he he knew how dumb he sounded. He's going thru all this work to try to get her to come here yet he doesn't think that if he went to BA for a few days that he could be faithful to her? So I don't understand his thinking as well. Thanks for the advice Andres I thought you might of told me that you Argintine men are sex machines and no body could match you!

Dickhead
03-22-03, 17:54
Being faithful to a hooker. What a concept. This guy needs to hang around with a Dickhead for a few days to get disabused of these quaint notions.

Guillermo
03-22-03, 22:09
Hey guys,

Just scored myself a ticket to BsAs. I'll be there the last week in June. Figured it was a good way to use up some of those frequent flyer miles.

My schedule is so hectic, it's hard to plan more than a week or two in advance, but it looks as if this trip actually might happen.

All I have to do now is cross my fingers and pray United doesn't go belly up before I can get there and back.

Guillermo

Yeah Baby
03-22-03, 23:18
Faithful to a hooker, I can't stop laughing. Way to go Dickhead, I couldn't have put it any better. Outofthegame, you must convince your friend to come back to B.A. and shagg away. Andres is 100% correct, if she complains about the sex than theres something he's not doing right, quantity does not necessarily equate to quality, although it helps.

By the way, Andres can't make the claim that Argentines are the best lovers because the fame of latin lovers comes from Caribbean Latins, read the book the Happy Hooker. According to the most famous pro of all Cubans were the best. Incidentally, I'm Cuban, Yeah Baby.

Dickhead
03-22-03, 23:31
Well, I don't think Andres made that claim but I will claim that I am the world's best lover because I satisfy myself 100% of the time.

Simple
03-23-03, 04:28
Hola Caballeros,

I have just finished reading the 2000 plus posts, and just in time as I am leaving for Arg. in a couple days. Being a fellow BA lover I would love to add my dos centavos into the equation. Please excuse my spelling and rookie mistakes.

About this board: As I post this here in SO CAL, you gentleman are reading it all over the world, including BA. It has to be the first time in history that fellow monger (consumers) interact, globally, regarding the oldest profession in the world. Thanks Jackson! Another Steak Dinner? Side of legs?

While I find the chica info invaluable just as important is all the other info that helps you have a great time in the city. Andres with his porteno background and cultural tid bits. Saint with his up to date posts with the weather and exchange rate, (I better get there quick), Dickhead you crack me up! MSG and WSG. Justgotback, Uncle Otto, Everyone THANKS! You Gentleman are the reason why I am posting.

I do not have any up to date info. on BA for I have only been there once, last year. I am going to spend several months in the city starting early next week YEESSS! Pussy Lagoon?, yes dickhead I do see it like amuzment park, Pirates of the Poonaanie, or Thunder Thigh Mountain? While I have mongered and searched for non pro action in Thailand, Cuba, Mex, Prag, Chile, Brazil, Amsterdam to name a few, nothing (for me) comes close to BA. JMHO. The people, the city, the country, Patagonia and it's fly fishing! I Plan on contributing throughout my stay and hope to meet up with some of you soon. I'm off to have some beers (it's my B-day) and as Saint says:

Life is Good!

Cheers

S

OutoftheGame
03-23-03, 07:26
I agree with you all, some of the things he is thinking are starting to scare me. That's why I figured it would be better for him to go back to BA so he can see her and when something went wrong,which I know it would, he could go find another girl and forget about her and come back to reality. I have faith that he'll see the light sooner or later it's just a matter of how much money he wastes on her before he comes to his senses. By the way I'm happy to hear your so good to yourself Dickhead, but do you charge yourself in dollars or pesos?

OutoftheGame
03-23-03, 08:14
PART VI. OVERVIEW OF CLUBS AND PERSONAL OPINIONS.

By this point I had visited most of the more talked about clubs on this board and a few others later in my trip but figured to give my personal opionion on each one.

1. Orleans-not a club, but figured to include it. This is a mid to late afternoon place, the best thing about it are the cheap prices for drinks and the fact that you can go there between 2 and 8. I wasn't impressed with the ladies as some of them looked good in the distance but got a worse closer up. I was in BA for a month and only made it to Orleans 4 or 5 times so that may tell you how low on my priority list it was. I would give most girls in there a 6.

2. Cutty Stark-Jackson is going to get on me for this one but it was very very bad. He told us that we got there to late and swears that you can't judge the place on 1 visit alone but I was not impressed at all, all the women seemed to be over 40 and not attractive. Plus it is very old inside, I understand it has been around forever but they should put some money into remdeling the place and try to get a better class of women. Like I said I only visited once but was never tempted to try again. All ladies about a 3.

3. Ness- Happened go go here one nite while waiting for Hooks to open, it was a little after 9pm and we saw Hooks closed and then looked across the street and the name rang a bell. We walk in and only a could of girls but more came in the whole time we were there. I really liked the looks of the place on the inside. It was very clean and did not look run down at all compaired to the rest of the clubs in that area. The ladies when we first walked in where a little older at leat 30, but they dressed well and did not attack when you walked in. The ones that started coming in at 10pm were younger and better looking. We only talked to a couple but did not arrange anything since it was so early. I would of like to visit the club more but we did not find out about it till the end of the trip. The ladies in their on average considering the ones coming in I'd say about a 7.

4. Cattos-Hooks- I put these togehter since they are right next to each other and have very similar interiors as far as decor and being a little run down. In most areas I liked Hooks more than Cattos and found the selection of ladies better at Hooks and they had much better entertainment. One nite I was thier they had 3 ladies singing that I felt to be very good and they sang in English. The negitive factor at Hooks is the bartender. I know she was mentioned as being a problem before by El Ricardo but one time I was in there with my buddy and he had a half used cigar and put it in the ash tray, well for some reason she tried to throw it away. It was not lit so it could not of been for the smell,luckily he sees her and tells her that he's not done with it. Well the girl on his lap was keeping his mind on other things so he did not see the second time when the bartender threw the cigar away,she is just one sexually frustrated women I think. So he finally notices that she threw it away and is so frustrated decides to dump the girl that he wanted to leave with and walk out of the place. We ended up returning a few nites later but would never tip her at all. I also seemed to notice that most of the girls at Hooks are from Paraguay. Would give the chica rating at Cattos a 7 and the chica rating at Hooks an 8.

Nuevo Estillo-This place is in a different catagory, for one it has rooms on site that you use which takes alot of the fun out of what the other clubs have to offer. It is also a ways away and you're sometimes more tempted to go ahead and find a girl there since you can't walk to another club that is next door. It is alot funnier place to hang out at and BS with the guys compaired to most of the other clubs mostly since the girls aren't aggresive at all and they have the strip shows every 30 to 45 minutes. As for the women I was very impressed and would give it an 8.

Blacks-I really don't understand what the big deal is about this place, maybe it's because I'm not into blonds but I did not see any reason a guy would want to spend more money on drinks and on women when you can get so much more at any of the other clubs. I do think it was very nice and clean inside and I loved the big leather couches but it is the only place that charged you get and and it wasn't applied to your first drink. I can respect a place for trying to appeal to a higher end of client but like I said before you can get better looking girls at other clubs so what's the point. I will give it an 8 for chica rating.

Closer-Went only 1 nite and it was pretty late around 4am, from what I understand it is a new club but it looked as old or older than the clubs downtown. The chica selection wasn't to bad some young and some a little older. It was late and did not get a chance to come back at a better time so I can't be to critical. Chica rating is 6. But might be better a few hours earlier.

OutoftheGame
03-23-03, 08:57
Affaire-Again this was another late nite stop so the cream of the crop might of already gone home. I was impressed by the decor has more of a strip club look to it, the music was load which may be a turn off to the older folks but I enjoy it especially your have a girl talking to you that you don't want to have anything to do with. I noticed this to be another club with a high blond ratio so nothing appealed to me. But trying to think of others I would say the chica rating was a 7.

Newport-Not really a club but I should say something,um......never went inside just had a couple of drinks on the patio out front with Jackson. I noticed a couple of possibilities but seemed to be a place for women over 30. Sorry I can only give it a 6. At least for window shopping.

Shampoo-Did not go but from what others on my trip said it was a rip off joint.

Playwoman-Now I had heard so many great things about this place I couldn't wait to see it myself. Well it was still closed when I first arrived, but did finally open up about a week later, walked with Jackson and it is not what I imagined, it only had about 5 girls working and 2 other guys in the place. It was much smaller than I imagined as well,especially compaired to Madaho's. I guess from recent reports it's getting back on its feet but when I was there I stopped in 2 times to have a drink and would leave it half full because it was so boring. I can only give it a chica rating of 6.

Madaho's-Well maybe I got spoiled by this place due to on the ground work MRLA laid for me but everytime I walked into this place I felt like I owned it. If my favorite spot was taken at the bar they would do their best to squeeze me in, or if we wanted to sit by the stage they'd put us right up front. I know I was showing up almost everynite and spending alot of money on drinks with the rest of the gang, but even before I had spent one penny in the place they treated me like a family member. Besides the girl that I meet in BA and a few of the other board members the people that worked there made my trip the best. I got to know many of the girls pretty well either thru one of the other guys that had spent time with them and they would hang out and talk with us or being friends with the girl I was seeing. I mean after a while I'd be in having a drink and some girl would start asking me where my novia was. I guess all the girls do notice who goes with who in a place like that. The best girl I meet at Madaho's that I did not spend any time with was Patricia, she is talked about alot and I got to know her from MRLA and others, damn I think I was the only one of the group that didn't sleep with her. That's ok, I really enjoyed talking to her and she was very honest with me. I don't usually talk to girls about the job because I know they aren't happy with what they do it's just a easy way to make money. But I had some things going on that I needed a woman's point of view on and she was very open with me and we also talked about from the womans point of view as far as maybe starting to like a guy that you have been sleeping with over a couple of weeks and you try not to get attracted or have feelings for this person but you can't always control your emmotions. And it is even harder that once you do start to feel something for a guy then all of a sudden vacation time is up and they might never see each other again.
We always tell ourselves that they are just working girls and only thinking of money but I don't think they can all be that cold and have no sense of emmotion. They are still women and women are much more emmotional than men are especially when sex is involved. But I really enjoyed talking to her and is just a really sweet woman.
The other best people their are the bartenders, Silvina,Liliana, and I forgot the other one's name but she is married to Gabrielle, one of the waiters. They are all so great and truely became my friends, I was even asked to e-mail them as Liliana gave me her web address and said they would send me a picture of them all.
I have nothing but good things to say about the women in this club if you can only go to one club this is it. It is brand new an is very large inside, has some good performences by the dancers. A give this place a 10 in every aspect.

Well that's my summary of all the clubs I visited I hope it not a bunch of old news to you all. I just know how lazy newbies are as far as reading past posts.

JustGotBack
03-23-03, 14:13
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rob_roy5
[i]Hey justgotback,
pity we (myself and chop) missed you (or you missed us) last nite since we were in the same place aroud 2am!!!
But still don't understand why you didn't contasct us (me and chop) before since we have been staying in BA for 2 weeks now and we posted our e-mail addresses few times ...

Sorry about this Rob. I was just hoarding my time since I like to move around at will. It wasn't until the end when I uhh.. ran out of steam, that the big head kicked back in.

I got back home last night. It took 27 hours from the time I left BA before I got home. That's the longest ever. It's sucks being back home. I woke up this morning and wished I was still in BA. I'm thinking about moving down there for a year or so? Am I insane? Can you get a visa that's longer than 3 months or do you just have go to RIO for a week and come back with a new visa. I've been down there pretty much every three months anyways. The immigration guys get confused looking for my entry visa when I leave. Most of the visas overlap.

Oh well. All you guys still down there, have fun. It's a great town.

JamesBond69
03-23-03, 14:26
Originally posted by outofthegame
Madaho's-Well maybe I got spoiled by this place due to on the ground


Viva Madaho...
I agree. I found Madaho's to be the best club in Recoleta and in BA overall with Hooks the best club in downtown, although not a close second.

Nuevo Estilo is also interesting, but too far away from where I was staying in Recoleta and not really set up to take a girl out but rather upstairs....but certainly worth going for that legendary lesbian show and watching (joining in with) the fraternity brothers type wildly appreciative audience.

As for Blacks...well it's true...It does have the largest number of beautiful chicas but you an also find the same quality in Madahos although the quantity is less. And the atmosphere is better in Madoho ---firendly chicas, staff, less tourist hustling.

The worst place is Solid Gold....and Playwoman was a disappointment although I did meet a few nice chicas there.

Yeah Baby
03-23-03, 15:28
Right on with the club ratings by outofthegame. Alert! Argentina is now in high season, tried to book an apartment that was reported by Dboy in the hotel section of this forum for mid- April and the apartments are already booked. If your going down soon, don't wait too long to reserve a place, I'm back to the Dazzler which is fine by me. Make sure you have a pad to shagg at.

Boy in Lima
03-24-03, 04:45
Hi to everyone:

I am going to BsAs from April 1 to 15th. I've done my research reading several posting of this board and if someone out there is hitting this city on these dates , drop me a line and it would be great to visit the clubs with people from this board. I speak Spanish very fluently.

thesonicboy@hotmail.com

DonRoberto
03-24-03, 19:17
Guys,

I am going back to BA this Friday after six months away. Staying at ArtSuites. Looking over the posts I see many references to Madahos and one to Bonnefemme, which sounds interesting. Can anybody tell me where these places are? Also, Dickhead mentioned a lady he was willing to fix people up with, but I haven't been able to figure out how to contact him; I would like to pursue this.

I will be going on to Bariloche and Salta on this trip. Don't see much about them reported, but will be on the lookout and will tell you what I find.

Hi DonRoberto,

Send me an email when you get here, I'll email you my cell phone number. I'll be pleased to show you where Madahos is and also how to contact DickHead's friend Corina.

Jackson

Yeah Baby
03-25-03, 02:07
MCSE

Hope you could give me some information about where your friend was able to contact real t.v. personalities for escort experiences?

Also, it appears from recent reports that we mongers basically prefer meeting the chicas in person via the clubs. Haven't heard anything impressive about internet girls lately, has anyone had a real good experience (model looks, body & good attitude)with one lately?

Can't wait to get back, 23 days to go!

Dickhead
03-25-03, 04:14
Originally posted by Guillermo
All I have to do now is cross my fingers and pray United doesn't go belly up before I can get there and back.

Guillermo

This thread, which I found on Flyer Talk under Miles Buzz titled "What to do With UA Miles," gives me some hope.

http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gov/rules.htm

It appears to indicate that a law passed after 9/11/01 requires other carriers flying the same route to accomodate passengers of bankrupt airlines on a "space available" basis.

Dickhead

Leo
03-25-03, 15:21
please read the post that dickhead posted carefully, i believe (i haven't confirmed) that:


1. if you have a ua ticket from award travel (miles), not from purchase (revenue), the other airlines will not honor it, even on a space availalbe basis.

2. even when an airline goes bankrupt (ch 11?) they are merely seeking protection from creditors (looking to reorganize debt) vs. shutting down (e.g. ch 7?). thus, they will continue to honor your miles, most likely, rather than face the wrath of upset customers that they may lose to other airlines. of course, like ua did years ago and continues to do, they may drastically limit award inventories (like offering 1 seat in award class on a 260-person 767 mia/eze!).

Dickhead
03-25-03, 15:54
My reading of Section 145 indicates it does NOT distinguish between passengers holding award tickets and passengers holding fully paid tickets (award tickets are not totally free due to fees and taxes so consideration has been given, an element of a binding contract): "The provision, section 145 [of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act] requires arilines that operate on the same route as an insolvent carrier that has ceased operations to transport, 'to the extent practicable,' the TICKETED PASSENGERS [my emphasis added, DH] of the insolvent carrier."

Defining "to the extent practicable," the DOT says their position is that "Section 145 requires, at a minimum, that passengers holding valid confirmed tickets, whether paper or electronic, of the insolvent or bankrupt carieer must be transported by other carriers who operate on the route for which the passenger is ticketed on a space-available basis on the date of travel shown on the ticket or other documentation demonstrating e-ticketing, without significant additional charges."

Also, and I have stated this before, United is ALREADY in Chapter 11 bankruptcy, which is reorganization. The question is now whether they will file for Chapter 7 bankruptcy, which is liquidation. Keep in mind that it only takes 3 creditors to petition for INVOLUNTARY bankruptcy so the decision may not even be United's to make.

Thirdly, I had no trouble obtaining a Saver award on United to BA and many dates were available. You can check for award travel on United on-line now and can even book international awards on-line.

I think those who are holding United miles would be in a far better position holding a ticketed reservation than hanging on to the miles. I booked as many awards as I could with the miles I had (only 2) and then transferred the remainder to Hilton Hotel points. Hilton, however, stopped accepting these transfers as of a few days ago (which shows Hilton's lack of confidence that United will survive).

I apologize for using caps for emphasis. How do you bold and italicize on this forum? The Microsoft Office short cut keys don't do it?

Your faithful servant,

Dickhead

Guillermo
03-25-03, 17:17
Originally posted by leo
. . . of course, like ua did years ago and continues to do, they may drastically limit award inventories (like offering 1 seat in award class on a 260-person 767 mia/eze!).

That's only if you try to acquire a ticket using the Saver Award (50K miles). If you are willing to pop for the 80K mile Standard Award, then you can book any available seat on the flight. You have the same rights as a paying customer.

As DH says, you can now book Award travel online with United, and, if your schedule is flexible, there are plenty of seats available at the 50K level.

If you're like myself and trying to shoehorn a trip to BA into a very busy schedule, it's easier to just pay out the 80K miles and get the itinerary you have to have.

May as well use them up now, since they may not be around for long.

The fact that other airlines flying the route are required to honor your miles is of little consolation. I believe American is the only other major carrier flying non-stop to BA (what? you don't want to change planes in Lima, Bogota and Sao Paolo?) and they are not too far behind United in terms of bankruptcy.

Yeah, yeah, I know, more travel talk. Hopefully, when I get to BA I'll have something else to talk about. ;-)

Guillermo

JustGotBack
03-25-03, 17:21
I agree that booking award travel to BA at least is really easy right now. I used miles to book the trip I took last week. I didn't book it until the night before I left. I didn't have any problems.