Buenos Aires - 2003 Reports [Archive] - Page 6

Grshel1

06-25-03, 18:34

Day 13 – Another Sunshiny Day

A beautiful sunshine filled day graces Buenos Aires making a mockery of winter. Winter on the calendar but not in the air. I spent a lazy morning eating a late breakfast and dozing on the couch. The life on vacation is suppose to be like this in my books.

The highlight of the afternoon was my three o’clock appointment with Patricia. An admitted 30 years old was going to make her the oldest (admitted oldest) lady I had been with on this trip. A couple of others that claimed to be 26 or 27 did raise some doubts in my mind, but who am I to call a lady on her age?

The first surprise was the doorbell ringing ten minutes early. Patricia was not the prettiest lady I have been with, not the shortest, not the thinest, but as a package she was quite nice. Alas, again the no English, no Spanish, situation rose its ugly head. A little champagne and the translation book and we were communicating.

The session in the bedroom was the nicest surprise. Alexia from the day before had been a fantastic GFE. Patricia gave her a run for the best GFE of the trip. I will call it a tie for now. Paticia provided all the services normally expected and seemed to enjoy my efforts to please her. A BBBJ was followed by DATY and of course lots of DFK along the way. She did enjoy the Vigel as her movements, sounds and physical responses indicated. The session moved on with several different position including missionary, her on top, doggy and others that we are all familiar with. I did not ask for anal but she did enjoy my attention to that area while doing her doggy style.

I must make a special note of her perfect pink nipples that stayed hard most of the time we were in the bedroom. Alexia had nice nipples, but Patricia had the perfect nipples...at least to me they seemed perfect.

After Patricia left the apartment, the couch grabbed me for a nice nap. I intended to watch the sports update on CNN. Well, CNN can put anyone to sleep including me. I did not stay awake through the first segment of the sports report.

Last night I treated myself to an expensive meal at Lola’s. The smoked salmon was wonderful and the six lamb chops were to die for. The service was absolutely flawless. An English menu was provided and the wait staff all seemed to speak enough English to understand me and me to understand them. I did take note that most of the guests in the restaurant were business men clustered in groups of five to twelve. The bill, which included wine and calvados came to exactly 100 pesos. A bit steep by BA standards, but the service and food were first class. I do enjoy getting my ass kissed once in awhile.

Jak

06-25-03, 20:34

Roxy - from Affaire. A hot little sex machine. I met her about a week and a half ago with Elvis and Joe and I´ve been meaning to post on her. I remember some guys posting many months ago about some obsessive chica that I was almost certain was named Roxy. Joe had been with her, and all he told me was she´d show me a good time, but make sure I kick her out in the morning and lock the door behind me. I took her out at closing for one hour at 100 pesos. She was very affectionate in the taxi, and within a few minutes in the apartment she´s doing a great sexy strip-tease for me as I sit on the sofa. She gets down to a BBBJ with CIM in a matter of minutes and I´m really responding to this chica. She´s not rushing things because she wants out - she´s just pure sex. We go into the bedroom after recovery, and I can´t believe my own recovery time. She goes at it again and I´m off in a short time. The only problem is she´s saying stuff about the cum in her stomach will make a baby for her, that she wants me to come to her place and stay, etc. My Spanish isn´t great, but I was getting clear ideas. This was sounding more and more like the "stalker" Roxy that was mentioned in the past, and the reason for Joe´s comment to me. I told her it was time for her to get dressed, but I wasn´t going to walk her down like I would normally. I´ve got my hand on the doorknob getting ready to let her out, and she starts giving me a handjob at the door. In a moment she´s on her knees saying something about "more milk". She starts sucking me off for a third time, and I tell her I´ll call her later. She stops sucking periodically to say "ahora". Very persuasive chica.
I haven´t called her back - yet. Something about her tempts me to play with fire. I saw her at Affaire about three days ago and she was occupied. But we had great eye exchange before she went out. Is this a recommendation? I´m not sure, you decide.

Exon123

06-25-03, 21:01

I too have met Roxy from Affaire but didn't have the pleasure of her bedroom company --- But my man Joe and I doubled dated with Roxy and Lezete and according to Joe shes super but he did have trouble getting her to leave --- I think Joe did her three times while he was in B A and it got to the point he would not go in to Affaire so he would not have to turn her down ---

Exon123

06-25-03, 21:27

Sport Fucking at the Cafe Orleans --- If your a guy like me you have trouble saying awake untill 3 or 4 in the morning --- Matter o fact thats why I kept my watch on west coast time while I was in B A two weeks ago --- That way when its midnight on the west coast its 4 in the morning in B A, I can live with that--- So OK Im a day person --- Thats why the Cafe Orleans is so perfict for me and the fact I think the girls in there are slighty older 26,27 and 28 range with more experience --- I highly recomend Roberta --- A Brazilan malado chica with the most perfect body Ive ever seen on a woman --- She only works days as she has a young son at home and shes always home with him in the evening --- Roberta just might be the best working girl Ive ever been with --- She doesn't speak much English, but she makes up for it with her femmine skills --- Any mongers that are in town and read this are fools not to go down try her charms --- The Horazonte Hotel is just around the corner and that too is an experience well worth the money --- Look for Roberta around 3 in the afternoon --- Just ask around for Roberta everyone knows her --- Shes a great person, and the best --- With a body better than the old Vargas drawings in Playboy --- You say thats not possiable ? --- Well go down and meet her --- She truly should be on Jackson Recomened list --- ! hour 150 pescos --- A true bargin ---- Exon

JamesBond69

06-25-03, 21:47

I would appreciate a report from Bandy regarding his recent visit to Buenos Aires, with particular emphasis on how or if it has changed since his Fall, 2002 trip.

I'm hoping to make it down in November/December.

Guillermo

06-25-03, 22:56

middleageguy,

Originally posted by middleageguy
Guillermo,
Enjoy your reports, keep them coming. I had to wait until I got back home to do my reports from my May business trip; o time for the locotorio.

I know myself well enough to know that if I wait until I get back to the States to write my posts, it will never happen. My impressions will never be so vivid or immediate as they are now.

Forgot to mention a few items which your posts have sparked.
First of all, I had an extensive list of supposed english or basic english girls from the various sites. In XL, I had them sorted in different ways, rank, waist, butt, height, face, hair, etc w/ a direct pop up of one of their pictures for each girl if you are connected to the internet. Works great, except it goes out of date fairly fast. Interested? I'll send it.

Thanks, but I think I´ve got just about all I can handle right now.

Ironically, I never pulled a site girl this time with my reams of preparation. One Saturday night, myself and a buddy began ringing the top ranks of the list. Some phones disconnected, some with message service, but did get a few. In most cases, the English was next to non-existent. Some were busy at the times requested. My Spanish may be a little less or the same as yours so I got by. Some were near the hotel, all except 1 in the P100/hr range + cab. The one English speaker, who my non-Spanish speaking buddy talked to was Evy, (Flavia on other sites). She was on the upper part of my rank list. Quotes were in the stratosphere, $US 200-300 and $US600 for the night! Maybe if I had talked to her with a bit of Spanish, there would be a peso sign on those numbers, but still unreasonable.

Evy/Flavia is the same chica posted earlier. I had Roxana make the appt. and got her for $200 (pesos that is).

Another cuttie on the site, I wanted to get her to a coffe shop to check out the goods first as we were wanting 2 girls, (she was a previous 'good report' girl. She would have for P50 as business time is business time. It is relatively easy to set up a date for yourself but trying to go for 2 do-ables at the same time is a tough go on the sites.

Depending on your tastes, which are somewhat evident from your posts, I could give you a few suggestions while down there.
Either way, enjoy.
middleageguy

Again, muchas gracias, but I`m staying pretty busy. I've only got 5 days left. Ay, caramba! So many chicas. . . SO LITTLE TIME!

Guillermo

Grshel1

06-26-03, 12:22

Day 14 – Double Down

The day saw the calendar and nature agree. It was cloudy, windy, cold and a drizzling rain most of the day. Winter has arrived in Buenos Aires. I only wish our winters would be so mild. When I say it was cold the high temperature was in the low 50’s.
With the short daylight hours of winter and the cloudy skies, the day seemed to pass quickly. Sleeping late and lounging around the apartment was a relaxing experience. Too wet to sight see. Too cold to walk the streets. Perfect for kicking back and relaxing.
Finally, at five o’clock, I used the KITA management technique on myself (Kick In The Ass) to get out. At six there were about 20 ladies in Orleans Cafe. A lot of regulars and a few that I had not seen before. Yes, the Queen of the Orleans was there. Also, there were about an equal number of men resulting in a rather crowded little cafe. Most of the men were Argentina business men in coat and tie with the requisite briefcase by their side.
I had a couple of chopps of Quilmes and by then the number of men had decresed significantly. The number of ladies remained more or less constant with some leaving and some new ones arriving. The gentleman next to me started a conversation and come to find out he is from Vera Cruz, Mexico, in BA on business.
Since I had yet to darken the doors of Ladies and Cutty Sark I sauggested we check them out. Our first stop was a tour through Ladies. At eight o’clock there was but one woman in the place. Obviously, the plural name is a misnomer and false advertising. We left without buying a beer.
Next door in Cutty Sark the prospects were much better. My new Mexican friend fell in love (read lust) with a nice looking and fairly tall lady. Amazing, she had dark hair. I waited for awhile and struck up a conversation with the cute bartender. She claimed to be from Moscow and from the accent I would say that is probably true. When one of the ladies called her Sophia, I will allow that she is from Moscow.
To make a long story shorter, one of the few English speaking ladies and I struck up a conversation. Shortly, another lady joined us and was introduced as the first ladies friend and roommate. The English speaking lady, Florence, suggested that we make it a threesome. Silvia agreed, I agreed and then we negotiated price. It took some time but they finally agreed to 300 pesos and were piled into a cab.
The only two disappointments in the session were a lack of pictures (their request) and the fact the ladies were not bi with each other. The two did expend a lot of energy making sure I was happy. DFK, DATY, and CBJ in a variety of combinations. Of course each time I changed ladies they insisted on changing condoms. Went through four of them before I finally popped. At least they did not insist on changing condoms while swapping off on the CBJ.
Life is wonderful.

OttoGraham

06-26-03, 13:12

Guillermo,

I´m in town, let´s get together tonight. I have dinner plans until 11 or so, then let´s go clubbing?

Want to meet at the Etoile lobby at 11:30?

Uncle Otto

Roxanne

06-26-03, 14:40

Hi, Guys:

I need to tell you that I'm not going to be in Buenos Aires from July,2nd to July,7th, so if you need me to make your appts., I can make them in advance or while I'm not here I arranged that Mayra is going to be in charge of the service.
So you can call her at her mobile: 15 5 062 6364 or email her at: MAYRA@ARGENTINAGO.COM.
Nobody else is in charge of providing this service I usually provide and you can act with Mayra as you are with me. Also you have to pay her for the appts. the regular fee US$10 by appt.

See you when I come back, if I come back....

Roxana, The Queen.

Guillermo

06-26-03, 15:33

Originally posted by OttoGraham
Guillermo,

I´m in town, let´s get together tonight. I have dinner plans until 11 or so, then let´s go clubbing?

Want to meet at the Etoile lobby at 11:30?

Uncle Otto

Bueno, amigo!

Ill be the one with the red carnation (ja, ja, ja).

Guillermo

Guillermo

06-26-03, 15:47

Can anyone tell me where this Ciceron place is.

I went looking for it last night but couldnt find it.

Thanks,

Guillermo

MiddleAgeGuy

06-26-03, 15:59

Guillermo,
Ciciron is right next door to Affaire, Step out of Etoille, go left, then left up the street less than a block. (supposedly owned by same people as Affaire)

Bandy

06-26-03, 17:04

Originally posted by jamesbond69
I would appreciate a report from Bandy regarding his recent visit to Buenos Aires, with particular emphasis on how or if it has changed since his Fall, 2002 trip.

I'm hoping to make it down in November/December.

Thanks Jamesbond69 for the enticement. I was not really sure whether a detailed report this time will make any difference among the mongers. I was reading reports from the other guys while I was there. I never saw any of these girls mentioned in those reports. The way I look at it, every experience is uniquely tailored to that individual's taste. One person may be quite thrilled with one chica whereas the same chica can be a disaster for another individual. These are all mind games. It all depends how much latitude you allow yourself to play this game.

It is very difficult to compare chica scenes in BsAs in different seasons. I always believe in the old axiom that the more they change more they remain the same. Before going to BsAs this time I was reading all those stories that all the good looking chicas are gone, which, by the way I never believed for a second. There are plenty of attractive girls available, especially in Madahos. Do you remember James, Andrea in Madahos, from our last trip? I thought she was the most gorgeous girl I ever met. This time I met her again. But there were lots of other girls who I felt more desirable than her. She also looked little older. Age is finally catching up to her. At this time of the season, definitely there are less mongers as compared to last November. But as I was discussing this with Jackson, this fact tilt the odd enormously in our favor in every club.

I did not discover any new place that has not been discussed before in this place. Only new place for me this trip was 1707 Santa Fe brothel. However, I discovered some gems that I thought never existed. And all I really need in any trip is only "one".

The report will be incomplete without mentioning some pleasant surprise about the hotel Etoile. From my readings in this forum I was under the impression that Etoile never allows multiple girls at the same time. To my surprise, they happily allowed my two friends to join me in my room, which resulted in an awesome 3-somes. In another instance, one of my regulars, a 22 yr old college student escort, was coming and going at ease without being stopped by the security. Last night in BsAs, when we came back from the Carlos Gardel show, I took her to the desk for registration. They won't even register her. She looked like a most normal girl you can introduce to your mother.

Now I will quickly rundown my encounters, without much details. Some of you might want to venture for one or two from this list.

Brothels:

2254 French St. In Recoleta

I have a soft corner for this place. I never had a bad time. Merium remembered me and treated me very well. All of them are listed under Platynum escort site. Also, this place provides nice bathroom facilities including Jacuzzi. Very important criteria for me to choose a brothel.

Samantha, 23 (appears as Samy under Platynum). Good looking. Good service.
Brenda, 22 (appears as Brenda under Platynum). Gorgeous looking. Great service.

One comment. It is very difficult to receive romantic service under brothel setting. But it is all up to you. I took the matter in my own hand and they really responded. They all said most of the men come for a quick release and do the deed without any communication. When they realized what I am getting into, they immediately turned down the light, change the music selection and reciprocated beautifully to my need. If you don't speak Spanish at all, you are out of luck for this experience. I had a great time. 100P per hour. If you prefer anal, it is 130P.

1707 Santa Fe , 3rd floor, Eventos Empresariales 4816-1490; 15-4028-7804

Many beautiful girls. My recommendation to go after 8 PM, after the change of shift. Big complain about the bathroom. They give you a handkerchief size towel to wash yourself.

I took , Paola, a 19 yr. old gorgeous looking chica. Gorgeous body. But for me there was no connection. She is the only one in this entire trip who did not perform BBBJ. 60 P/ half hour, 80P/45 min, 100 P/1 hour.

Amateurs:

Two amateurs already reviewed in my earlier report of 6/23/03

Bad experiences

Anita, a 22 yr. old Internet chica from Gemidos. It was a switch of a switch. Dave was switched and got Celeste. He was very happy with her. On his recommendation, I asked for Celeste and got switched to Anita. Everything went wrong for me. Stay away, unless you like a little girl. 100 P/hour. I kicked her out without finishing.

Juliana, 22, from Madahos. A TLN date. 250P. An absolutely model looking type. She could be a cover girl in any US magazine. Turkish background, 5'10". She was after me couple of nights so I decided to take her. However, there was absolutely no romantic connection. And when disrobed, her body did not look all that great. At this very young age she has 3 children including a set of twins. And that shows. She tried to be very cuddly, but nothing happened for me. I told her to leave after the session. Now, don't get me wrong. This girl can be a great companion for some other guy. Just she did not cut it for me.

Liliana, 23, Hooks. An absolute gorgeous looking girl, with one 2 yr. old child. Three nights I went to Hooks. She was always with somebody else. So this night I went with a mission. TLN hasta 11 AM. 250 P. And payment at the end, as always. My Spanish is good enough to do all these deals without any confusion. In street light, she looked more prettier and much younger, not a day over 15. Came to Etoile around 2:30 AM. Everything is going well. Ordered room service, opened a bottle of wine. She is feeding me, I am feeding her. Started the Jacuzzi. She stripped, I stripped. Lot of touching, DFK....All of a sudden "pay me now". Talk about anti-climax! Spent less than 1 minute arguing with her. Then without any hesitation kicked her out. Did not pay a single centivo. She could not believe it. She thought she got me with her gorgeous body and smile. I am too old for this non-sense. I am sure some young guy will be hard pressed to refuse her at that moment.

Great Experiences:

Rafeila, 22, Catto's. A Brazilian bombshell. She used to work in Black and left that place only six weeks ago. To all of you guys, this will be my absolute recommendation of this trip. You can not go wrong. I had a TLN date for 12 hours. 200 P. She is up for anything. I recorded a "porno" video with her. She was great. The second session in the afternoon was even better.

Guadalupe, 26, Madahos. Now, she is no beauty, has two small children and has a very ugly looking tatoos on her breast, and two others on her back. But she grew on me. I had one of the best "hacer del amor" sessions in this trip. A single session lasted more than 4 hrs. Every position offered, including anal, which she said she does not do normally. She wanted me to finish on her face and mouth (including part swallow) which I happily obliged. TLN- 250 P.

Araceli, 23, Madahos. No children. Very pretty girl. She appears under Platynum escort site. Breasts are augmented, but a wonderful work of art by an American surgeon. Great session. Finished all over her face, including swallow. I knew from Guadalupe that Araceli is her friend. Now I realized why. They both like leche on their face and enjoys swallowing. TLN- 200P. Left after 2 PM.

Roxana, 24 and Karina, 22, both from Madahos. An out of the world threesome experience which lasted for almost 5 hours. After completing the first round we ordered room service (breakfast). After breakfast we went at it again with gusto, with finish in CIM and swallow. They normally go for 1 hour. But somehow we all three clicked and they did not want to leave. I have a strong feeling the Diplomatic Suite at Etoile had something to do with it. They enjoyed the Jacuzzi tremendously. All the time commenting that this suite is bigger than an apartment etc. Roxana, the active one, was running and jumping around the rooms in her birthday suit periodically. Looked very happy. 100P each. I felt guilty and rewarded them handsomely.

Unforgettable experiences:

There were two. Can't review them. When you play with their head romantically, the game reaches a different level. One of them, as I mentioned before, a college student and a very classy Internet escort, with whom I spent two nights. She is not sure whether she will continue in the business and told me not to give her name to anybody. The other one I met at Madahos in my first night. She is only working there for 1 month and after she met me she stopped going to Madahos (made my life easier and I was able to pull so many hotties from that place without any problem.). I took her to the Father's day dinner at Happening in Porto Madero, arranged by Roxana and Jackson. I spent a total of 4 absolute wonderful nights with her. The day I left, she came at 10:30 AM in my room and stayed the whole day and helped me pack. Her period started that morning. So I asked her why she did not call me. She just looked at me and said "did you want to see me only for sex?". This 22 yr. old made me feel really embarrassed. I told you guys, the game has reached a different level. She came with me up to the Airport and I told the limousine driver to drop her at her home. I ended the trip with a real high note.

So, this is my story. Planning for a return visit at the end of the year. Meanwhile, RIO in October.

Bandy

Guillermo

06-26-03, 18:23

Day 5

Hola Piratas!

I get up early today, 10:00am is early in this town. Feeling much better after a night´s sleep.

Out for breakfast. It´s a gorgeous day. Clear skies, bright sunshine, feels like the temperature is in the high 60´s. Banco Galicia is buying dollars for 2.76 pesos. Stop at the locoturio and then back to the apartment.

I feel pretty good. I think I´ll play a little chica roulette. I call Roxana and give her the names of 4 or 5 Platynum chicas and ask her to make me an appointment. Twenty minutes later, she calls back to say that Julieta will be at my apt. at 4:00pm. $200 pesos. Very efficient that Roxana.

All right, class, I want you all to take out your Platynum textbooks and turn to page Julieta. She arrives a 4:00 en punto. Julieta is a BIG girl, which is good, big girls are good. Don´t get me wrong, she´s not fat or anything, mainly just tall but her figure is very well proportioned. I´m 6´2" and in 3 inch heels (Julieta that is) the two of us are about eye to eye. She arrives with her hair still wet from the shower she took before she came. Pretty face, beautiful eyes, but she does have a fairly serious overbite (no, I am not a dentist in real life).

I offer her a drink and ask her if she would like some music, "Oh, si, si", she speaks no English. I put on the Gypsy Kings CD and she doesn´t move a muscle. Hmm... this completly screws up my statistical model.

We chit chat for a while. Apparently she has an apartment somewhere not too far away, which is why her hair was still wet. She also has 2 children who are home with the baby sitter. Her goal in the future is to have her own escort service.

We move into the bedroom and begin to undress. Nice body, beautiful long legs, but a little soft in the middle after 2 children. That´s OK though, I´m a little soft in the middle too. Most of the pictures of her on Platynum are less than a year old and some were just posted, like, today, so they are pretty much WYSIWYG.

This chica´s a professional, she´s here to do a job and she knows what she´s doing. Which is good, it´s nice to have a chica who knows what´s expected of her. After a little foreplay, she moves directly into a BBBJ, which she continues for what seems like the longest time. Interesting, I think the overbite is actually enhancing this process.

Finally, it is time to don the preservativo. She slides her self on and rides me for a while and then I roll her over and we finish in missionary. A pleasant divertissment for a quiet afternoon. If you´re into tall girls (and there ain´t a lot of them in this town) Julieta is one to try.

And that´s how you play chica roulette.

I also went out to the clubs this evening, but the specifics of my activities shall forever remain a secret locked inside my heart (yeah, right).

Suffice it to say, no need for the Vitamin V.

Your correspondent in Buenos Aires.

Guillermo

Guillermo

06-26-03, 19:48

Day 6

Hola Piratas!

I wake up at noon today. Into the shower and I hear the maid come in. I think she´s here early because she has to make up all the beds. There are 4 beds in this apartment, and we will need all of them on Friday. ;-)

¨Buenos dias, señora", ¨Todo bien, señor?¨, "Si, Si, muy bien¨.

Complete change in the weather today. Overcast, windy and, for the first time, it´s actually cold, maybe in the low 50´s. By the time I get down to Cafe de la Paix, it´s almost 2:00pm, but they are still serving desayuno. By the time I´m finished with breakfast it´s after 3:00pm. My biological clock is obviously getting a re-adjustment.

I head over to the jewelry district, Corrientes and Libertad to do some shopping, but there is nothing of interest. I think I´d like to see what´s happening at the Periplo, so I start migrating my way cross town through the microcentro. I stop at Galerias Pacifico for some more shopping and when I step back outside it is spitting rain. I swing by Cafe Orleans to see what´s on the menu. It´s probably about 6:30pm, or so, and I sneak a peak through the curtains as I pass by. Hmm... looks like the blue plate special. I continue on to Cutty Sark, just to fix the location in my mind and then finally I arrive at the Periplo. It´s been raining the whole time and I enter probably looking a little like a drowned cat.

It´s very quiet in here. There is one other male customer sitting at the bar and 5 or six mujeres seated at the tables across from the bar. I´m not sure you would call these ladies chicas. They look to be in their late 20´s to early 30´s. They are nicely dressed in regular street clothes, and look as if they might be some working women who just happened to stop by after work for a drink. Except they keep winking and smiling at me. They are all 6´s and one 5.

I step up to the bar and order myself an Manhattan. This seems like a Manhattan kind of place. I don´t drink whiskey, I don´t drink gin. . . I drink bourbon. I am expecting the bartender to give me the same dumb stare that every other bartender has given me in this town when I order a Manhattan. Instead, he replies in English, "Yes sir, would you like that up, or on the rocks?" This guy knows what he´s doing. His name is Bauer. It´s $35 for my drink, but they give you a plate of snacks to go with it.

I head upstairs to the baño and lo and behold, there´s a whole ´nother floor up here that is completely deserted except for an old padron sitting in the corner. He´s got a cute little thing sitting next to him. She´s wearing this short little plaid cheerleader type skirt, which has been hiked up all the way arond her waist. She sees me coming and immediately rushes to pull it down. Don´t laugh, Guillermo, you´ll be there someday yourself, probably before you kow it.

The only thing remarkable about the men´s room at Periplo is that there is a bidet located next to the tiolet... in the men´s room. Muy interesante.

I head back downstairs and take a seat with my drink and snacks. I like this place. Dark wood paneling, black leather upholstery, there´s some old R&B tunes playing on the stereo. I can see planting myself here of an afternoon, getting thoroughly sloshed on Bauer´s Manhattan´s and flirting wit the ladies. I might even take that little cheerleader upstairs and see what she´s got under her skirt (can you tell I was on the football team?)

I invite one of the ladies to come over and talk. The drink for her is $25. I don´t remember her name, but she is a very handsome woman, long blonde hair. I would like to have met her 10 years ago. She says she is a native proteña and has a son. We chit chat for a while and she tells me that she has to leave to go to the farmacia to buy some medicine for her son. She says she won´t be long and she asks me to wait for her. You betcha, sweetheart, I won´t move a muscle until you come back.

I finish my drink and look at my watch. Ohmygosh! It´s 8:00pm. Lunchtime. Into a cab and off to find these Russian restaurants that Mayra has listed in the Argentinago web site. My trusty cab driver and I look everywhere, but they are nowhere to be found. Note to Mayra: Update your website.

I have lunch at Village Recoleta and decide that I would like to try this Cicceron place. I thought it was next to Madahos, but I can´t find it. I ask the touts on the street and they tell me Callao and Bartolomeo Mitre. Into a cab and off we go. We end up at a place called Chicheron. Definately not what I was looking for. But I remember that this Pelvis place is in this neighborhood, on Callao. It´s just a couple blocks away. I stop by and even though I have only been there once, last Friday, they recognize me and welcome me as an old friend. There sure are a lot of cute chicas in here. But if there is anything going on in here beyond beer and pool, I´ll be damned if I can figure it out.

Into a cab and he deposits me on the corner of Junin and Vicente Lopez. It´s about 2:00am and the kids are all over me, "Moneda, moneda, moneda, señor", I duck into Newport. Newport is packed. Apparently there is a big soccer game tonight, Boca against somebody and everybody´s here to watch it on TV. There are quite a few chicas, so I figure I´ll try my luck.

I think this must be a union shop. I talked with 3 chicas and each one is asking the same price, $150 USD. Guys, you would have been proud of me. I was tough. I didn´t let them push me around. I stood my ground. I made them an offer and said, "Take it or leave it". Unfortunately, they chose to leave it.

I left around 4:30 am. I didn´t really have the heart to go to another club at that hour and start this process all over again, so I just headed back to the apartment.

But, I always like to look on the bright side. At least I saved my self $150 USD.

Tomorrow night, Tio Otto and I are going out. I should have something more interesing to report.

Your correspondent in Buenos Aires,

Guillermo

MiddleAgeGuy

06-26-03, 20:27

Guillermo,
Great reports/(writing that is; I found myself in spontantious chuckle a couple times which I'm sure some of my colleques wondered what was so funny about a spreadsheet!). I can't wait until September's return. But, like some of Bandy's comments, I'm afraid I am returning to a bit of a mind game, which I am currently happy to be in on one account, partially with another, and just as soon not be in with another, (if you are off to Ciceron, say hi to Sully, a very peitit dyed red curly haired gal). Oh where and when will I find the time for new experiences? By the time you're finished down there, I would be surprised if you havn't contracted your own mind game. Uncle Tio might keep you in line. On the other hand, being the gentleman he is, he might get you into trouble.
With all this great writing Guillermo, Nibu Raphael may be looking for another profession besides his travelogue business!
middleageguy

Grshel1

06-27-03, 11:47

Day 15 – Last full day in BA

The morning sun never poked through the overcast skies. The temperature was bearable but the gray winter skies reflected my sadness that this was my last full day in BA...this trip. The night was even worse with several downpouring periods of rain to drive home the looming depression.

I decided to make the most of the day and did the Spa thing. What a delightful experience. A real first class operation at Colmega Spa. Be sure to do the VIP or first class version. It only costs a little more to go first class and at the spa I am sure it was money well spent. Next trip to BA I will go there as soon as I get situated in the hotel. The steam, the heat, the service, the ladies, and all there to help you relax and enjoy life.

For an afternooner I decided to walk around the corner from Art Suites and try the 2254 French Street brothel. Now I have not been in a brothel as such since I left Germany in 1988. French Street is a very nice and clean operation. The selection...if one is a selection...was nice and we (read I for sure) enjoyed ourselves. I did have to go back to Art Suites before entering French Street. I am not sure what the sign on the second door says in Spanish, but I am fairly certain that it said no cameras allowed inside. I did not push the situation by trying to take my camera inside. Art Suites is just around the corner, better to avoid an initial hassle than to calm the waters afterwards.

For my last supper in BA, I had to do Argentina beef one more time. Beef lomo, as they refer to tenderloin, is to die for here. The size of the portions alone make it wonderful, but the quality of the beef is unheard of in the US. The range feed beef seems to be much leaner than American beef. My huge hunk of beef was done perfectly and I savored each bite.

I decided to try the downtown clubs tonight. I had not done the Hook and Ness clubs this trip. Being that it was early I stopped in Orleans for a beer and eye candy before hitting the clubs. Alas, that was a mistake. A good mistake. I never made it to the clubs. I spotted a cute little blonde that I had not seen in Orleans before. A bit of conversation and we were off. I started to head back to Art Suites and realized I had never experienced the Horizontal Hotel. Around the corner we went.

Alas, this morning I cannot remember the little lasses name. She was decent, but not the best of the trip. Not the worst of the trip either. Not having my camera, pictures were never an issue. She performed well enough but just a little too professional and too mechanical. Note to self, always take the Vigel along, it seems to enhance a GFE with the ladies. She did seem to enjoy the DATY, I know I did. Nice shaved clam is always good for desert after a big meal.

Well, my nut was popped, my belly was full, and my room had stuff everywhere that needed to find its way into the suitcase. I headed back to the apartment, packed and hit the sack. A satisfied grin on my face as the patter of rain on the window put me to sleep in a mattter of minutes.

OH. The cab ride from downtown to Recoleta reminded of New York city. The cabbie went around the world to make it a five peso cab ride rather than the normal four peso ride. Guess he did not want a tip. I thanked him for the tourista trip and gave him hell for taking me the long long way around. BUT, life is good.

MoonDog

06-27-03, 12:48

Bandy, Guillermo, and Grshel1,

Thanks for the reports. They have been very enjoyable reading.

Moondog

Bandy

06-27-03, 14:45

Moondog:

Thanks. I wanted to meet you in person this trip. I learned a lot from your reports before I embarked on my journey to the BsAs and I wanted to thank you personally. When we are at the Happening restaurant, I think Jackson received a call from you. I meant to tell Jackson for a get together with you. Simply ran out of time. Next time.

Now to other mongers, below are some other related observations....

First a restaurant in Recoleta. Dave introduced this one to me and I thought this ought to be included in this space. Thanks Dave!

Restaurant's name is GRANT (like the US President). From Etoile, continue on Junin, pass Vincent Lopez, turn left on the next street. The restaurant is on the middle of the block on your left. It has a big logo of President Grant, you can't miss. Now you have to be really hungry to get to this place, otherwise don't go. It is all you can eat buffet, inclusive of, may be 200 items (salads, Chinese, sushi, desserts etc etc etc). At night try to go before 9 PM. This place tends to be very crowded after that. Cost is 11 P weekdays and 13 P weekends.

(NOTE: I just realised that information about GRANT has been presented in the restaurant section. Sorry for the oversight)

Café Excedra, Cordoba and 9 de Julio, Micro Center:

Before going this time, I was reading many reports that this is the in-thing at the moment, especially at night. I was totally disappointed. I went several times at different hours of the day. One night we passed it even at 1 AM. I never saw more than 3 girls in that place at any time. Girls were certainly younger than their counterpart at Café Orleans, but the quality was nothing to write home about.

Café Orleans, Micro Center

I had few hours to kill and went for a cup of coffee. Last trip, I had some good luck with this place. The place was full, but all of them were pushing over 40. One chica was persistent and she was reasonably attractive. She asked USD 100 for one hour. I broke into laugh. She got angry. She said "Why wouldn't you pay me $100. I speak English, I am attractive , I exercise to keep myself in shape, etc. etc.". I came back with my famous lines " Honey! I also speak English, people say I am reasonably handsome, but I must admit I don't exercise regularly, except when I am in BsAs. So for this shortcoming, I will discount my price. I will pay you $100 and you pay me $70 for my company. So in a nutshell, I will pay you $30 free and clear. But since I am a generous guy, make it an even 100 Peso. What do you say? Vamos?" Needless to say, she stormed out.

Playwomen:

What a change from last year! Last year I was so disappointed. This time I saw many beautiful chicas. I invited one for a drink. Flabia, 27, one child. Fabulous girl. Things were going so great in the club. Lots of laughs, lots of DFK, touching, caressing etc etc. She was ready, willing and able. Too bad she can only stay up to 7 AM. I need more time than that. She wanted me to come back next night when she will be able stay until noon. But how can I tell her next night is already been awarded to somebody else. Great girl! Playwomen now has definite potential.

Internet girls:

In light of last trip's debacle of various bait and switch, this time I only took cell phone numbers, about 40 of them. I called each one of them, several times. I could contact only one who asked for 300 peso. Of course, I hang up. Most of the numbers want you to leave a message, some have been disconnected permanently, some were not available. To all those chicas: you are running a business. If you want our money, answer your call. You are not my girlfriend that I leave a message and hang around the house rest of my mortal life. Gees...

Cost of entertainment:

Prices are definitely creeping up. This trip cost me lot of money, personally. I attribute the major part on the devaluation of dollar (more than 20 % compared to last Fall) and my tendency to live "nicely". However, for quality Internet escorts, you almost have to pay 150P/hour, which used to be 100P. Club girls in early hours will invariably demand 200 P/hours. These prices are after extensive negotiations. I am not saying you have to pay these prices (I never did, since I never do short session at night, all TLN) or lower prices do not exist, but more skills are necessary in the art of negotiations than ever before. Newbies will be killed left and right, especially if they are Spanish challenged. Price of drinks and admissions in every club is creeping up. At Madahos, if you want to take out a chica before 3 AM for TLN, it will cost you minimum 130 P (your drink/admission 25P and 3 drinks for the chica @35P each). My regular from Madahos saved me lot of dinero by coming directly to my hotel those four nights. Prices in Black is insane. Downtown clubs may be little cheaper, but not by much. Something to think about when you are planning your next trip.

Bandy

Hysteromania

06-27-03, 22:50

Will be in BA July 4-6. Anyone wish to meet up?

hysteromania AT yahoo.com

JamesBond69

06-28-03, 03:48

Originally posted by bandy
Thanks Jamesbond69 for the enticement. I was not really sure whether a detailed report this time will make any difference among the mongers.
Bandy Your report is classic. Thanks for all the detailed info. Looks like Buenos Aires is in top form. Very interesting that the Etoile is changing their anti-threesome policy and the aging of Andrea (Elizabeth Hurley lookalike) at Madahos.

Thanks you for your observations...and for all the others that maintain such a high level on the Buenos Aires forum.

Look forward more then ever to my November trip. My worst fear is only that the dollar will drop even further with the IMF's Argentine bailout in the works.

MoonDog

06-28-03, 03:55

Originally posted by bandy
Moondog:

Thanks. I wanted to meet you in person this trip. I learned a lot from your reports before I embarked on my journey to the BsAs and I wanted to thank you personally. When we are at the Happening restaurant, I think Jackson received a call from you. I meant to tell Jackson for a get together with you. Simply ran out of time. Next time.I would have been with you guys, but already had a prievious dinner engagement set up. Next time.

Café Excedra, Cordoba and 9 de Julio, Micro Center:

Before going this time, I was reading many reports that this is the in-thing at the moment, especially at night. I was totally disappointed. I went several times at different hours of the day. One night we passed it even at 1 AM. I never saw more than 3 girls in that place at any time. Girls were certainly younger than their counterpart at Café Orleans, but the quality was nothing to write home about.Cafe Exedra various at different hours. It is about three times the size of Cafe Orleans, so the girls are quite spread out. Quality and quantity are hit and miss as always, but lately I've seen 25-30 girls in there during the late hours of Friday and Saturday nights from around midnight to around 2:00 a.m.

Thanks for the good report.

Moondog

BA_Robert

06-28-03, 16:29

Bandy,

very nice report! It seems that the rumors about the fall of BA are greatly exaggerated.

After reading all the reports before I went to BA last fall, I was also very disappointed in Playwomen. It’s very nice to hear that this institution has pick up.

However, I’m very sad to hear that the age has caught up with our beloved Liz Hurley (Andrea). Also, according to your comparison the prices of entertainment is creeping up. How about the price level in general?

BA_ROBERT

Sex_God

06-29-03, 04:09

Gentlemen,

I read through some of your reports. There seems to be some anxiety in many monger's minds about paying the girl in advance. Why don't we establish a worldwide protocol for payments?

First you agree on a price.

Next, you pay the house, take a cab ride and come to your room.

Next, you ask her to undress, and before you begin your BJ or the actual foreplay, you pay her 50% at the time she gets undressed and you are sure you want to proceed further. When she is undressed, she won't run out on you! ;-)

If you decide not to proceed further you pay her cab fare and ask her to return back immediately to the club, so the club would share the house fee 50-50 back with her (just a suggestino to the clubs).

If you decide to proceed, then do the session and pay her the final 50% at the end. Which means you must always carry your money in change.

Bottom Line: Pay 50% at the time she undresses, then pay the other 50% at the end of your mongering session.

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Tips: Always lock you baggage and never leave your wallet on the night table in your room. Keep your jewlery, watches and camera out of her sight. Never leave the girl out in the bedroom while you are in the shower. Or at least get a safety box to keep your valuables. Again, lock your bags at all times. Some girls make a living out of stealing other peoples property and they probably sell it to local pawn shops, who knows. I've had one girl steal my personal belongings right behind my back as I was getting dressed to drop her off once. When I was packing my bags I realized my camera was gone. Unbelievable!

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Questions to you:

1. Is it still possible to do a Platynum and Escort Baires females for 300 Pesos TLN?

2. Do the girls look as cute as they appear on the web site? I've narrowed down Girl 11, 23, 34, 36, 43 if they are available a couple of months from now.

3. Do you have to negotiate a BBBJ with them in advance?

4. Do they give you a discount for a threesome? I cant afford to pay double each night for hourly fun. I wouldnt do a TLN threesome. I just want them short time for less than 2 hours for sex, no drinks and breakfast, cause it gets too expensive otherwise.

Sorry if I am asking too many Q's. Your help is appreciated.

Sex_God

BeachBoy

06-29-03, 10:13

Sex God,

Interesting, you seem to pick the more mature contingent on Escortsbaires. Virtually all the chicas you list are pushing 30 or well over.

Maria Christina speaks very good English, is fairly sophisticated and likes to get kinky. But she is no 20 something chica, more like 35.

Clara is in her 30s, be prepared to shell out big bucks for a very limited repertoire. Best to ask upfront for all the things she won't do. (I will not be specific as I don't want to embarrass her in a public forum.)

Gabriela is a Brazilian delight, very GFE, very sweet and accommodating. She knows how to push a man's buttons in bed.

Re: your other questions, of course you need to come to an agreement before setting up the appointment. Save yourself the hassle if you are specific about expectations.

Not many chicas from the main sites will do TLN for 300, but it depends on chemistry. If she digs you, it might be free; if you are a revolting slob, she might not do it for any amount of money.

BeachBoy

06-29-03, 10:17

Guillermo,

Thanks for your detailed and entertaining posts. You make me feel guilty for not providing similar coverage on my adventures in BA

Guillermo

06-29-03, 15:41

Day 7

Hola Piratas!

Sorry to be late on the posts, but I´ve been busy and this is the first chance I've had to come up for air. Those of you who have been down here before know what I'm talking about. The rest will just have to wonder and wait.

Let's see, where was I ....

Oh yes, I get up this morning about noon. I keep saying "buenos dias" and they keep saying "buenos tardes". Another cloudy, grey day. Down to the Cafe de la Paix for desayuno. They're giving me the royal welcome now. Stop at the locoturio to file my report and I notice Grshel1 has posted that there is a Russian chica (or maybe I should say dyevooshka) working at Cutty Sark as a bartender. I think I´ll go check her out. If she really is Russian she will know every other Russian girl in town. I have this fantasy of doing a Russian girl in Buenos Aires.

I arrive at Cutty around 6:30 ish and order a drink at the bar. There´s a tall blonde chica there who might be Russian from her looks, but she´s speaking pure Castellaño. Not even a whiff of a slavic accent. Oh well. Looks to be about a dozen or more chicas here, lounging around. Mainly 6´s with maybe a 7 or two. Nothing that looks interesting.

Back to Recoleta to get cleaned up and then out for dinner. I´m thinking maybe I´ll have something different tonight for dinner, like fish. Why is it that in a city that directly borders the Atlantic ocean, the only fish on the menu is Pacific salmon and fresh water trout? I opt for the salmon.

By the time I finish dinner, it´s pouring rain. I head over to the Etoile and take a seat in the lobby. Tio Otto breezes in right at 11:30. We reconnoiter for a moment and then decide to go the Cicerone. When we arrive the place is packed with chicas and there are hardly any guys, maybe 5 or 6. It may just be my imagination, but the chicas here seem to be generally a little younger than Madahos. Tio Otto buys us each a drink and we grab a seat to survey the scene. They have a kind of a runway stage and they´ve got a dance revue going on. Over in the corner, I notice a cute blonde with one of the tightest little hardbodies I´ve seen in a while. Hmmm....

The problem is, there are just too many chicas, it´s hard to make up your mind. Otto and I decide to check out Madahos. At Madahos, we encounter Jackson, et. al., holding court at the bar. He points out some of his "A" list to us and makes some recommendations. Otto and I end up both eyeing the same leggy brunette. I decide to leave her to Otto and check out Play woman.

When I arrive at Play Woman, there is a flood of water pouring from the ceiling. Apparently the roof leaks and with all the rain tonight, water is pouring down everywhere. But that doesn´t stop anything. There seem to be plenty of chicas in here too. I strike up a conversation with one and buy her a drink. Haven´t been there more than maybe 15 minutes, when Otto, Jackson and entourage arrive. Tio Otto spots me with the blonde and comes over to ask me to meet him in the bathroom. I figure maybe we´re gonna smoke a joint or something ;-), but, no, he just wanted to tell me to dump the blond. They call her Heidi and I don´t want to waste my time (or money) with her. It´s good to have first hand advice.

Jackson points out three chicas in here who are on his "A" list. But no one wants to stand around with water dripping on their heads, so we decide to head back to Cicerone. Jackson takes a cab, Otto and I walk, and we all seem to arrive at the same time.

Back at Cicerone, I decide that I want to find this little blond, but, alas, she is no where in sight. I imagine someone already grabbed her. Jackson is busy holding court at the bar and Tio Otto seems to have found his novia for the night. I pick out a cute little Paraguayita (I like these Paraguayan chicas) and we sit down to have a drink. My experience has been that the chicas in these clubs are usually very physically affectionate. This one I´m with has only been woking for a month and still doesn´t quite seem to be with the program. I really don´t want to have to explain to her what boys and girls do together in dark rooms. I take my leave, and, since the rest of the guys seem to be otherwise engaged, I take off on my own.

Back out on the street, I´m obsessing over what to do next. Do I go back to Madahos? Do I go back to Play Woman? Or do I go someplace completely different? The problem is, there´s just TOO DAMN MANY CHICAS in this town! Somehow, I have to simplify this process. An inspiration comes to me that the Periplo was a nice quiet place in the afternoon. Maybe at night there will be a better selection. I hop in a cab and away I go.

I arrive at the Periplo right at 2:00 am. The place is as quiet as a tomb. There are three women in here, spaced out along the back wall. The first two in back are definately not anything I want to mess with, but, the one sitting up front here looks promising. I take a seat and invite her to come over for a drink. Talking with her I discover that she´s actually quite pretty. Nice smile. Cute laugh. I ask her if she would like to go out with me. She responds that she would. "Cuantos", I ask. "Dos cientos", she replies. OK, vamos. Everything in life should be his easy.

Back at my apartment, she heads into the bathroom to do her thing. I figure she will emerge, as most of the chicas do, pretty much stark naked. She comes out almost fully clothed. She has taken her blouse, pants and shoes off, but that´s it. She runs to the bed, jumps in and pulls up the covers over her. She´s laying there grinning at me from under the bedspread. OK... I can get into this.

Little by little the undergarments come off. Finally we get to the panties. Interesting... algo differente! Up until now I guess I had assumed that Argentine chicas are just naturally born without pubic hair.

She turns out to be very affectionate and sensual. Mil besos and caresses and we are ready for the CBJ. She straddles me and slides herself on. My, this one is tight. Poor Guillermito barely has room to breath in here. She starts moving on top of me. Not only is she tight, but she´s a screamer! Great, this is going to be fun.

Over on her back, over on her side, over on her stomach. If we roll over any more, we will be on the floor. We end up finishing in a blaze of glory.

This one´s a keeper.

Before we drift off to sleep, she wraps herself around me like a python and that is where I find her in the morning.

Your correspondent in Buenos Aires,

Guillermo

Roxanne

06-29-03, 16:04

Hi, People:

LAST FRIDAY,27TH WE HAD LA NACION RESEARCH!!!!!

Place: THE MOST FAMOUS APARTMENT IN RECOLETA: PARERA 156 8TH FLOOR.

Meeting time: FROM NOON TO 19:30.

Participants: KING JAX, GRSHEL1, GUILLERMO, OTTO GRAHAM, HIS FRIEND, CAPT DAVE AND QUEEN ROXANA.

We shared the responsabilities, so Guillermo with his Spanish said hello to the girls, Jax was in charge of the photos and the money and also he distributed a form to interview the girls by the guy who was in charge of each one, and I made the phone calls and the arrangements with the girls or their madamas.

We received 9 ladies, and we can say that we got a better level of beauties than in El CLARIN RESEARCH, of course these girls were at least AR$80 by hour, one or two exceptions for AR$60 and AR$70, EL CLARIN ones were AR$40 by hour.
I made in comparison more phone calls to get a girl than I did in the first research, also LA NACION has less advertisments than EL CLARIN.

We had lunch, champagne and friendship all together, plus fun and sex, NOT ALL TOGETHER, FUC*&%%$@~!$%!!!!

I can say that this kind of experience is great to be done once in a while and I enjoyed it very much!!!!!

Thanks to everybody, your Queen, Roxana.

Grshel1

06-29-03, 17:38

BA – Wrap-up

Back home in the USA. The flight was just as long getting back as it was getting there. All the flights were absolutely completely full…. not one empty seat to Miami, Dallas or Louisville. Guess summer time travel is here, and the fear is gone.
My last afternoon in BA was spent with five fellow mongers and Roxana, plus a variety of ladies from La Nacion. Using a four-bedroom apartment we started with a catered lunch spread. Roxana started dialing for ladies. The scientific research involved in this monstrous effort on our part was to determine if the ladies from La Nacion newspaper ads were better quality than those from Clarin. As a side note some in this group had participated in the same investigation using only Clarin ads.
Unfortunately, American Airlines required my presence long before I wanted to leave. Any final conclusions from the study I will leave to those that spent the entire afternoon. From my viewpoint, La Nacion ladies are worth the effort. Our first arrival of the afternoon was most doable and I did. I was given first choice because of my having to leave early. The first chica was tall, that does mean long legs. She provided the desired BBBJ and DFK, we did a couple of positions and I popped rather quickly thinking she was about out of time.
Each lady that came to the apartment was interviewed after greetings and being provided champagne. A few clothed photos followed the interview. The photo session then moved to a bedroom for a few nude pictures. The long legs and little tight butt on the first lady and I was a goner.
I was pleasantly surprised of the high quality of ladies that paraded into the apartment. Now don’t quit going to Madahos or some of the other clubs, these ladies were not all top quality. But, for the price and looks, and attitude, I cannot think of a better way to spend an afternoon. I have no idea how many ladies came and went in the course of the investigation. I do know I certainly enjoyed the afternoon.
It sure made sleeping on the plane a lot easier.
Alas, I am home again, laundry is going, I have had a good nights sleep and am about to log into www.aa.com to see what is available for my next mongering trip.

MoonDog

06-29-03, 20:17

Guillermo,

I'ts nice to hear the AAA farm team is sending new blood up to the major leagues. Thanks for the report.

Grshel1,

Many thanks for the updates during your stay. See you next time.

Moondog

Hysteromania

06-29-03, 23:47

Ugh! You guys are making me so jealous, I wish I was there for the casting call. It definitely would have been fun, especially getting to pick from the bunch instead of calling 3 or 4 in an afternoon. Would be great to do a mini-casting couch this weekend, that is anyone still has the energy! ;)

Slick1

06-30-03, 01:07

Capt. Dave
Glad to see you got the laboratory back up and running with a whole new group of loyal scientists. I hope Major Thom joined you once again. This important research must continue, although I am saddened not to contribute this time around. Just reading the post about the abundantly flowing champagne triggered a vivid flashback to the Clarin Experiment and the lovely Vivianna. My current research will take me back to Cali, Colombia this Wednesday. Keep up the good work.

Sex_God

06-30-03, 01:44

Originally posted by BeachBoy
Sex God,

Interesting, you seem to pick the more mature contingent on Escortsbaires. Virtually all the chicas you list are pushing 30 or well over.

[........]

Re: your other questions, of course you need to come to an agreement before setting up the appointment. Save yourself the hassle if you are specific about expectations.

Not many chicas from the main sites will do TLN for 300, but it depends on chemistry. If she digs you, it might be free; if you are a revolting slob, she might not do it for any amount of money.

** Attention readers: No mongering advice/report below - Just personal opinions **

BB,

Thanks for your feedback.

BB, yes I will always negotiate my session and my expectatinos from the girls in advance. I like girls who are mature and experienced. I expect them to be respectful and not play too many head games, unlike what you see when you meet a 21 year old at the clubs. So the desire to go for the 30-something. I am not always sexually pleased with the 30-something though, they lack the *freshness* in them. But what the heck, if they can act like a *wife-in-bed* for 8 hours, I am OK with that.

Pricing: Folks, I am really concerned about inflation. Dollar has sunk down to ridiculous levels (thanks to lower interest rates in US). When you start adding up the cost of hotel, airline, food, sighseeing, gifts, transportation, phone calls, and chicas, gee, I need to get a part time job to just satisfy my lusty desires. :-)

I will not pay over 250 to 300 pesos per girl. If that gets me 2 hours fine. If it gets me one hour fine. I don't think its worth to spend US $150 each night to grab a girl in my bed. I am expecting a large business deal to go through and if I get good commission for my work, heck I will be buying the chicas presents and will shower them with lotsa gifts. Until then, I am gonna pretend like a back-packer-monger, traveling on a modest budget.

Sex_God

Elvis

06-30-03, 13:28

Sex_God,

I'm going to address your question about paying 50% upfront and the rest afterwards.

IMO, I don't think this is a good idea. It's better to talk about your expectations before getting to your place, thus avoiding any misunderstandings.

Lots of these girls are interested in making enough money to quit and do something else, so pleasing us is not on their minds. I know, I know.. this is a generalization but it's quite true. There are exceptions, I admit. And those have been the best I've had in BA.

This is speculation---

They quote you, let's say, 2 hours for XXX pesos and if they get 50% of money upfront, most likely they will please you for a certain amount of time and after what she'd consider the end of session (no endless participation) she'll demand the rest of the payment.

It's possible they will get aggressive if they've performed for you and you do not pay the rest because she decided to stay 45 mins. instead of 2 hours.

3 - Yes, ask this.. Haces el pete sin forro(without) o pete con (with)

4- Yes, it's possible. If you hit the clubs late and talk to a bunch of girls who are friends and are comfortable with each other, most likely you will get a discount. Last time I got two girls for 400 pesos 3 1/2 hours, and afterwards they later hung out with me at the casino till noon.

Like you, I don't like having chicas staying overnight.

Bandy

06-30-03, 15:06

Originally posted by BA_ROBERT
Bandy,

very nice report! ............ How about the price level in general?

BA_ROBERT

I don't think you should have any problem. I presume you are going to use EURO, which actually has gained substantially during this last six months. Go ahead, splurge. I spent about 25% more compared to last trip and that is primarily due to the devaluation of US dollar.

I felt prices on everyday staffs are somewhat higher, but you won't feel it significantly. I remember paying 120 Peso for Tango cena show last year which is now 135 Peso. The best seat in Boca soccer stadium is 65 Peso which was little cheaper last year. Mainly, you have to watch out when visiting too many clubs in a single night. Prices of admissions and drinks can add up substantially. This is the single most money draining situation I can think about.

Enjoy your time in BsAs and report back to us. If you need any phone number, e-mail me privately.

Bandy

OttoGraham

06-30-03, 16:41

A few observations from a recent short visit:

1) Prices are creeping upward, caused by natural inflation in pesos as well as the loss of value by the dollar because of the very low U.S. interest rates. For example, the flag drop for a cab is now 1.28 pesos, up from 1.12 on my last visit. Exchange rate: 2.8 to the dollar last weekend. Surely the city is still a massive bargain except for the cheapest of cheapskates who are wanting nothing more than a one-dollar blowjob.

2) Black continues to have, IMHO, the best-looking women in Buenos Aires as well as the highest prices for drinks, etc... However, I negotiated a TLN for 300 pesos. Your mileage may vary. Ask for the blonde waitress "Edit" to wait on you at her station. (Her mother was the coat lady the night I was there, too - a "beso" for each!) Edit is NOT on the program herself, but she is very pleasant and will direct you to simpatica, English-speaking girls. Remember that girls' drinks here are a stiff 80 pesos, while your drinks will run in the 35 range for a call brand, and lots of tapas if you are nice to Edit.

3) Ciceron is the successor to Affaire in Recoleta. Nice place, much less of a haze of smoke than its predecessor. Ample selection.

4) Don't go to Playwoman when it is raining. It was raining as hard inside as it was outside! ;)

5) Madaho's has a good selection, with Thursday being the busiest night of the week, Saturday the slowest. The difference between those two days was remarkable. However, I recommend a visit either day.

6) Periplo on Alvear, in Microcentro just across from the Marriott and San Martin Square, is my favorite place for a drink in BsAs. Sr. Reynoldo the hefty, white-haired bartender is a pleasant fellow and will chat with you in English. Occasionally there is a girl or six there, if that's your reason for going stop by beginning at about 6:00pm. I go for the stiff Tanqueray and Tonic and all the tapas you can eat for 35 pesos.

7) Special notice for Dickhead and his acolytes. I noticed some streetwalkers plying their trade at the corner of Liberator and Puerrydon, as well as on San Martin near Cafe Orleans. I wouldn't fuck them with a dildo on a stick standing away at ten meters' range, but maybe some of you will find them interesting. There's no accounting for taste......

As Andres says, "hope this helps!"

-Uncle Otto

Saint

06-30-03, 18:47

Otto,

Hey amigo. Glad you're having a good time. I haven't read the Forum in the past couple of days but enjoyed reading your posts. I'm still looking forward to hooking up with you someday. We have the same taste in establishments. (We could very well be the only two guys that pull girls out of Black's on a regular basis).

Anyway. Stay safe and have fun.

Saint

AllIWantIsLove

06-30-03, 23:25

Originally posted by Elvis

3 - Yes, ask this.. Haces el pete sin forro(without) o pete con (with)

Elvis, can you help me with the Spanish here? I think I understand everything except "pete". Is this a form of petar - to feel like? But if it is I still don't understand the combination with hacer.

Thanks,

Bob

Capital B

06-30-03, 23:28

I'll be in B.A. 7/3 - 7/9... would like to get out with those who know the area.

controlledburning AT hotmail.com

By Email

07-01-03, 09:00

Long time lurker, first time poster... I am getting ready to leave BA with lasting memories and wanted to share them with the esteemed members of this group, since that is where I got the idea to go to BA in the first place.

Arrived in BA from the East Coast on June 20th for my 4th trip there. Checked into the Holiday Inn Express Puerto Madeiro, a modern, functional hotel. First stop was the pharmacy at Paraguay/Florida (US$28 for 4 X 100 mg of sidenafil, payable in USD or Pesos) just in case... After an enjoyable wine tasting session at the nearby "Winery" I headed to Cutty Sark around midnight. No more than 6 women averaging 4-5 there, I would think by any standard, most of them older. I was getting ready to leave, trying to remember where Hooks and Ness were when Veronica appeared. Cute 26 year old Paraguyan black curly hair and attractive features. An 8 in my book. I asked her how much for TLN and she replied she did not think TLN was necessary and quoted 200 pesos for ST. I should have known right there I was not going to get the all-night GFE I was in the mood for. But I was weak, could not remember where the other places were and thought she was cute. She accepted 300 pesos for TLN and we left. Had dinner and went back to the Holiday Inn. She did not need to register and we quickly got down to business. BBBJ, she declined DATY and the rest was uneventless until she told me at 3AM she had to go. Well, I don´t know about others but for me, if the girl does not want to stay, I´d rather she left...So she did, with 250 pesos. Oh well, tomorrow is another day. Overall just an OK experience.

Saturday, I moved to the Etoile where I was quite impressed by the Executive Room (US$75) and headed to Madahos around midnight, still looking for all night GFE. Of course at midnight, that kind of deal is hard to cut. 40 or so girls at Madahos. Sat at the bar and was still adjusting to the dim lights when I was approached by Georgina, who I later saw on the board has been described by Guillermo and others. Peruvian with the looks of a Thai ( evrybody tells her that and she hates it BTW), I´d say she is an 8 but then it is all a matter of taste. You can check for yourself at http://www.escorts-argentina.com/EscortsArgentina/Girl48.htm I liked the fact that she spoke english because my spanish is very limited. We went to the back and she tried to order champagne on a couple occasions, which I declined (I ended up buying 2 bottles later like I said I am the weak kind). Light kissing and she quoted me 750 pesos for TLN. I asked if she was kidding, apparently not. Eventually I offered 300 pesos and she replied "for what?". I thought that was pretty funny and we kept chatting. Neither would budge and after a while she said she had to leave. OK... 30 minutes later she was back, flirting and asked if I wanted to get introduced to one of her friends. I had just spotted a cute blonde and told Georgina I would pass. I don´t know if it because of my very limited spanish or she did not have any other prospects but the result is, she sat back on my lap! 30 minutes later, Maggy a blonde pulpous Peruvian and Georgina´s best friend joined us for a drink. By that time, I was ready for a Party. Champagne! We eventually agreed on US$300 for both for TLN...Yaiks! That + the bill at Madahos was over my budget but oh well, you only leave once and boy was it worth it! We first went to a packed techno/rave disco where just about every guy was trying to grab MY girls, who politely declined and I felt like the king of the world for an instant. Back to l´Etoile after 45 minutes or so in the maddening crowd and on to the best sex session I have ever had. Now, I have traveled a bit from Rio to Amsterdam to Bangkok and so on. But I never was able to indulge in such a passionate embrace, taking one while the other would do DFK, or just kiss any exposed area. Would only do CBJ though and no real lesbian action since they were too busy taking care of me. I even did not think for a minute about complaining. They left around 7:30 AM or so, after leaving me their phone numbers.

Needless to say I slept all day Sunday. I called Georgina at 6PM. She was in my room at 8PM (exactly on time which is unusual in Argentina) and greeted me with the same passionate embrace which was the reason she was in my room in the first place. After an unhurried session complete with DFK, DATY, AR and this time BBBJ (she was not willing at first but I only had lubricated condoms). Wow... I was ready to go again after 10 minutes but she insisted to watch TV for what seemed to be the longest program ever. I dozzed off, around midnight we went for dinner and then back in the room for another session. I set the alarm for 8AM and by 8:15 she was rubbing against me again. We had our third and final session. I am slow in the morning and had to insist to get another BBBJ which she finally, albeit reluctantly agreed to. That did not alter the performace though and soon I was back on track for the finish. CIM was a no-no and she rode me to my end. She left by 9:30AM or so and I paid her 700 pesos for the 13+ hours. Did I overpay, perhaps. Perhaps I´ll find out from reactions to this post. I figured that if others pay 200 pesos for 1 hour, it could not be so bad + I got more than 3 hours of actual sex and a girlfriend for the night. If I overpaid, which I know is a crime, let me know and I'll make sure not to do it again.

That is my story. Sorry for the long post, I am just re-living the experience as I write.

MiddleAgeGuy

07-01-03, 10:12

By Email: "If I overpaid, which I know is a crime, let me know and I'll make sure not to do it again."

Verdict : You overpaid.
Punishment: Drink only Quilmes, Take only street girls for 30P/pop and no TLN for one year.

middleageguy

JamesBond69

07-01-03, 10:38

Originally posted by saint
Otto,

(We could very well be the only two guys that pull girls out of Black's on a regular basis).

Saint That's not true!!!!!

Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, King Faisal of Saudia Arabia and Uday Saddam pull girls out of Blacks on a regular basis.

Hey. Life is good (if you're on an unlimited expense account);-)

All others pay cash and go to Madahos or even Calle Florida Dickhead style to enjoy the monger life.

Jackson

07-01-03, 10:58

Originally posted by saint
Otto,

Hey amigo. Glad you're having a good time. I haven't read the Forum in the past couple of days but enjoyed reading your posts. I'm still looking forward to hooking up with you someday. We have the same taste in establishments. (We could very well be the only two guys that pull girls out of Black's on a regular basis).

Anyway. Stay safe and have fun.

Saint Not true again! Just last week I was in Blacks with another monger and I actually encouraged him to take a girl out of the place. Of course, the chica was Libia, who is featured on my private site, and who just started working at Blacks.

Of course, the caveat here is that if you find yourself talking to Libia (and she speaks perfect mid-West English), and you tell her that you're a friend of mine, she will gladly go with you for the prices posted on the private site ($150AR for 1 hr, $200AR for 1.5 hours)

Libia also updated me on the latest rules in Blacks. As we all know, the girls are not permitted to laugh, they cannot talk to you for more than a couple of minutes and you cannot touch them unless you have bought them a drink. If the waitress asks you, and you tell her that you don't want to buy the chica a drink, then the chica must leave you immediately. If the chica doesn't leave you immediately, then the waitress will report her to a manager, who will come over and advise the chica that she must leave your presence.

There is some good news: That $60AR drink price that they try to charge foreigners is actually only $40.00AR. All you have to do is tell them that you know the price is $40.00AR. In addition, the girls are not required by the club to return within a specific time, so the chicas can stay TLN if they decide that they want to later. Of course, the high-rotation chicas may tell you otherwise, but the official policy is as stated above.

BTW, I surveyed the inventory several times over, and I didn't see a single chica in there that was worth more that her counterpart at Madahos.

Jackson

Big Bug

07-01-03, 12:09

Jakson,

what is the address to your website ..?

Roxanne

07-01-03, 12:21

Hi, guys:

I'm leaving Buenos Aires today, so start sending Mayra your emails for appts. during these days I'm not going to be here, I will come back to work on July,8th. Also while you are here you can call her at her mobile: 15 5 062 6364, and her email address is: MAYRA@ARGENTINAGO.COM

Kisses, Roxana.

Rastaman

07-01-03, 12:38

Would soemone please post the address for Madahos...Thanks!

Elvis

07-01-03, 13:39

rastaman,

Azcuenaga 1908, Corner of Vicente Lopez in Recoleta

Elvis

07-01-03, 13:42

bigbg,

That info is easily available in the Argentina Links forum

But here it is..

www.argentinaprivate.com

Bandy

07-01-03, 14:47

Originally posted by Admin
Not true again! ............BTW, I surveyed the inventory several times over, and I didn't see a single chica in there that was worth more that her counterpart at Madahos.

Jackson
Bravo Jackson! I agree 100% with your comment regarding Black. This time I had to swallow hard when they told me the drink prices. Last year, the chica drink was 50 Peso, which is now 80 Peso. As usual, this time also I failed to see anybody who really jumps out. As Jackson puts it correctly, the girls are equivalent to their counterparts at Madahos, only packaged better. You get the illusion that you are going home with a better product. Don't get me wrong, there are some real talents that do exist. But that is true for any club, especially Madahos. I also took out Jovana, a Brazilian Goddess, twice, last year from Black. But she was the only one who really stood out among may be 70 girls. Many people get the impression from reading the forum that Black is full of girls like "Jovana". IMHO, it is not.

Black's policy of not smiling or projecting a "stuck up" attitude by the chicas definitely hurts some girls. Rafeila, who I reviewed earlier, used to work in Black. By nature, she is a very affectionate person and likes to interact spontaneously with her clients in the club. In Black, she was taken out of her natural element, and could muster only 3 "salir" a week. Currently, in Catto's she goes out twice a night on a daily basis and she couldn't be much happier (by extension, I was happy too).

Controversy about the quality of Black's chica talents will continue forever. "Beauty is in the eye of beholder" and most of the posts include the universal qualifier "IMHO". So everybody is off the hook, including me.

Bandy

Maddur

07-01-03, 14:58

I am in BA and here is a short report on the first 2 days: (Not much different from Bandy's recent reports)

Café Excedra
I went there 4 times - the place was dead 3 times. However on my final visit noticed a really hot chica (a little older) but she was taken. So depends on your luck. If you are in the neighborhood, drop by for a cup of coffee.

Affaire:
The place has changed since my last visit in November. Mostly 5 and 6 but I spotted a couple of 8's. I wanted to take a chica by the name Victoria - she asked for US$ 200 - naturally I passed. She left with another guy.

Ness:
This place was good last night. Atleast a couple of 9's. I picked Roxane. 150p for TLN. Not bad at all. Looks - 7 Service - 9 (anything goes)

Cost:
Prices are definitely up. . It is a double whammy as prices have gone up a little and the exchange rate (due to a weaker dollar) is around 2.7 (Last trip I got a rate of around 3.5). So in order to get the maximum bang for your buck (pun intended) - you need to search harder.

Etoile:
Though I am not personally into threesomes, Etoile has no problem allowing 2 chicas. How do I know ? I asked them! I am paying 170 p + tax (should come to 200 p) for an executive suite.
If the La Nacion research is still on, count me in!

Dickhead

07-01-03, 20:55

Originally posted by AllIWantisLove
Elvis, can you help me with the Spanish here? I think I understand everything except "pete". Is this a form of petar - to feel like? But if it is I still don't understand the combination with hacer.

Thanks,

Bob

The verb to suck is "chupar," so "chupete" is (subjunctive mood) of "I may/might suck you." This gets shortened to "pete" (PAY-tay) in slang. "Hacer" means to do or to make. Hence "do you do blow job without" is "pete sin."

Guillermo

07-02-03, 05:23

Day 8

Hola piratas!

I'm back in the States (bummer) :-( But I will try to finish up the reports for my last few days.

Let's see. . . where was I? Oh, yes. . .

I wake up about 10:00am this morning. Mi novia is still sleeping and I could probably sleep some more if I had the inclination, but today is a big day and I probably should get up a little early and make sure to batten down the hatches for the impending storm.

Today, I have the distinct privilege to be the host of the La Nacion research project!

We agreed to start around noon and Tio Otto and his friend arrive right on the dot. Followed shortly thereafter by Grshel1, Roxana, and then Jackson. Capt. Dave is still out procuring beverages. The first order of business is to order in lunch, we will need all the strength we can get. After Roxana finishes ordering lunch she retires to her office to begin the process of dialing phone numbers.

While we're waiting for the chicas to arrive, Jackson calls a meeting of the WSG Human Relations Dept. We discuss the proper use of the WSG Chica Evaluation Form (WSG HR/1). Each
chica is to be interviewed upon arrival, numbered, photographed and her vital statistics collected for future reference. Also, whoever takes a given chica is required to write a performance review afterwards. We all ante up the required $300 to cover the expenses for the afternoon and let the games begin.

The word we have from Roxana is that the process of arranging for chicas from La Nacion is a little more difficult than from Clarin. There are only a fraction of the ads and many of the chicas called only work out of their apartments, they won't come to our place. It will also cost a little more. Whereas the chicas from Clarin were happy with $40 per hour, the chicas in La Nacion want $60 to $80.

The chicas start arriving around 2:30pm and the first two look very promising. I think, in general, everyone agreed that the quality of the chicas that showed up this afternoon was pretty good. Out of 9 chicas that showed up, there was only one clinker in the bunch. She was sent home with full pay for showing up. There is one chica in particular who is very beatiful. She has the face of a Madonna (no, no, not THAT Madonna) and she's dressed like a Catholic school girl to boot. Ironically, she gets paired with Jackson, and thereby hangs a tale. "No, no, no, honey, there will be no CBJ's on my watch!".

Being the gracious host that I am, I allow my guests to go first. Besides, I have a date with mi novia tonight (TLN for $200). Capt. Dave is more than happy to avail himself of my hospitality, on several occasions, as a matter of fact. He ends up taking 3 of the 9 and walks around all afternoon sporting the biggest shit-eating grin.

For myself, the temptation has been fairly easy to resist, until the last pair of chicas arrives at around 6:00 pm. One is a cute Brasilera, and the other one is simply the biggest sweetheart you ever did see. There is no way this one is going to waste. But I figure I'll let Otto's friend have the right of first refusal. He disappears into the bedroom with Jackson and Capt. Dave to take pictures of the Brasilera. I interview the last one. Her name iiis Pamela, she's 22 and has a 5 year old son. She comes from one of the provinces up north of BA, can't remember which one. Jackson and Capt. Dave emerge from the photo session in the
bedroom without Otto's friend. Pamela is mine.

We all head into to the back bedroom for Pamela's photo session. As the clothes come off I can see Capt. Dave's grin widen. By the time she's down to her panties I'm thinking he's just gonna jump her right there. "No me tokes, Dave. No me tokes!"

Finally it's my turn. Lot's of DFK, DATY and BBBJ but no CIM. She's only been in the business for about 5 months, so her oral skills are not, how shall I say. . . polished? But she seems to be more than willing to please and takes direction very well (si tu puedes hablar Espanol) ;-). Yes, if this is an example of the kind of talent that's waiting out in the provinces, you guys have nothing to worry about.

At some point we don the preservativo and I am barely inside her when I go off like a shot. We spend the rest of the hour laying in bed together. I think we communicate very well. I ask her questions in Spanish and she giggles. With this chica, sex is almost an afterthought. I would be happy to spend the rest of the night in bed with her just playing peek-a-boo under the covers. In fact, I just may do that, but not tonight. There is work to be done.

Back in the livingroom, I finish writing up Pamela's performance review. She and her friend are paid and off they go. Jackson distributes what is left of the bank. We each get $70 pesos back. The La Nacion research project is finished.

The rest of the gang leaves around 8:00pm. Mi novia is supposed to be back at 9:00 and the place is a mess! I spend the next hour dashing about trying to create some semblance of order. I wouldn't want her to think that me and my amigos were sitting around all afternoon fucking chicas. Heaven forbid!

Otto's friend gets back around 8:30, mi novia shows up around 9:00 and Otto and his novia show up around 9:30. We get into a couple of taxis and are off for dinner. have no idea where we're going, but we seem to be heading in a north easterly direction.

We finally arrive at the restaurant. It's called La Brigada. Nice place, seems to be very popular. We are seated and begin the process of ordering. And it is a process, there are about 50 different cuts of carne on the menu. I decide to let wiser minds than mine make the decisions. I don't think there will be any problem getting something to eat here.

At some point plates of food begin arriving at our table. All kinds of different stuff, mainly carne and salads of different types. And plenty of wine, glass after glass. I know nothing about Argentine vineyards or vintages, but it all seems to taste pretty good. Of course, Tio Otto is not about to let me escape without trying these famous Mollejas, which I do. They actually are pretty good. Whatever they are.

Buenos Aires restaurants never cease to amaze me. There are 7 of us at the table; me and mi novia, Otto and his novia, Otto's friend, Roxana and Mayra. We eat and drink for 2 hours, a couple bottles of champagne, several bottle s of wine and the bill is a little over $500 pesos, which is a little less than $200 USD.

Afterwards me and mi novia head back to the apartment and la cama. I like this TLN stuff. Every time I wake up there is this cute little brown body laying next to me. I mean. . . what's a fella to do? We go at it off and on for most of the night, finally getting to sleep in the morning.

Your correspondent in Buenos Aires,

Guillermo

Guillermo

07-02-03, 16:56

Originally posted by By Email
Sat at the bar and was still adjusting to the dim lights when I was approached by Georgina, who I later saw on the board has been described by Guillermo and others. Peruvian with the looks of a Thai ( evrybody tells her that and she hates it BTW), I´d say she is an 8 but then it is all a matter of taste. You can check for yourself at http://www.escorts-argentina.com/EscortsArgentina/Girl48.htm

The chica I met at Madahos was calling herself Jorgelina. She was Peruvian and a look alike for Georgina, but not the same one. Jorgelina told me that she was not on the internet.

Guillermo

TicToc

07-02-03, 19:24

OK .. after much delay I finally have a chance to post my report from my trip from June to the great BA. Sorry that it is not so timely, but 2 days after I left BA I was winging my way to Paris and just got back. BTW, after South America, Paris and elsewhere just doesn’t do anything for me.

So on with the report… I had previously set up an appointment through Roxana to meet her friend Laura from Jackson’s site. Prices are a little high (according to the standards that everyone talks about on here) but IMHO well worth it. This was a true GFE with all the extras. Tour of BA, great dinner companion, great in bed, great tight body and superb smile. She said that this was her first time with a gringo but she handled it (no pun intended) well. Enough said. If you are looking for something a little different from the nightly routine, I recommend you contact Roxana and see if Laura is available. So that accounts for the first 24 hours. BTW this is not the Laura from Bandy’s report. ;)

The next 24 were full of work and no opportunity for fun until Monday night when I manage to drag my boss to Madahos for a look. Ended up with a hot Peruvian (25+, 6-7) for 150 for 2 hours. BBBJ and a nice body made it worth it. Not my best experience, as she was a little too pro for my taste.

A side note: While finishing dinner in Las Lilies, I noticed the arrival of what could only be a group of fellow hobbyist. So I took a chance and went over to their table and asked if anyone was named Jackson? Jackson was not in the group but the others and I had a chance to visit quickly. When I said that I lived in Santa Cruz Bolivia I got some recognition. I repeat to all, if you get a chance don’t miss Bolivia.

The next night I went back to Madahos with another friend. Spent way too much time talking to two 7s from Mar de Plata. One said she had been working for 18 months and the other was “new”. My friend abandoned me to these two but what the hell. Her first offer was for 400 for 1 ½ hours. Maybe I was a bit crass but I countered 400 for 2 hours with the two of them. They promptly got lost. Luckily I saw a cute 22 year old that I had talk to the night before who was sooooo glad to see me again. A little heavy but a cute face and willing attitude and we were off to the races. 150 plus cab for 3 hours. Nice but full natural body with wet puss (as someone said “how do you fake a wet ____ “) and a real gusto for the work. DFK, BBBJ, all positions and no “pro” attitude. Just right to finish the last night and leave me time to catch some sleep before heading to the airport.

On the whole, considering that I had to mix work with pleasure, this was a good trip for me. I plan to be back in August and will make sure to have more recreational time in the planning. I do have an observation, that was seconded by both my friends who know Santa Cruz: While there were some real nice looking women in the clubs, I was not impressed by the number of lookers on the streets during the day. In SCZ you see them on every street and most are open to approach for dinner and whatever if you turn on the charm.

Dashing Don

07-02-03, 21:14

TicToc
Enjoyed your report and have a question about the girls in Bolivia. I assume that they have strong Indian features. This is quite different from the portenas, who are ninty nine percent caucasian and therefore makes your comparison that of apples and oranges. In fact, now that I think of it, nowhere, in any report, have I ever seen a description of the type of girls in BA. If the subscribers to this board were female, you can be sure that descriptions of the men's ethnicity and body types would be the first topic. But mongers being mongers....its mostly about plugging holes.
Don

Andres

07-03-03, 00:02

Dashing Don:

Santa Cruz de la Sierra is part of the Bolivian jungle, while most of the rest of Bolivia lies in a plateau. The jungle girls look like Brazilian mulatas or Paraguayan: Cinnamon skinned, tall, curvaceous, sensual. On the other hand, the girls from the plateau are short and fatty, and not very sexy from my point of view.

I met several Santa Cruz girls in BA and I guarantee that many of them are hot, as TicToc suggests.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Lexton

07-03-03, 02:06

Now I am totally confused.

I have yet to buy a chica a drink at Black. There is one that I like if she is ever free when I am there. But drink prices: the guy at the entry desk told me the price for a chica is the same as for a guy, from $25ar to $85ar, depending on what she orders. Others are saying it is $80ar. All seem to agree the salida is one drink with no time limit. Jackson is talking about something for $60ar that can be argued down to $40ar. I do not like bar fines, especially excessive ones. I like cheating foreigners even less. Can we get the straight dope on pricing at Black?

Given the format of Black, where one must buy a drink to start negotiations, this is a real issue if the price is high. The format is pretty bad. It tends to force one to negotiate to a conclusion with a chica for whom one has bought a high priced drink/salida, and this is a definite negotiating disadvantage. The only defense is to select a chica, have a price in mind, and be prepared to leave the bar if you don't get close to it. And vow not to return soon. You can't really mix with the chicas until something clicks.

This is a little like the US, where you have to marry a woman to buy the right to solicit her.

Elvis

07-03-03, 02:58

I don't know if you guys are interested in this info. but I've been receiving emails from this swinger group in BA which usually has 20-30 couples attending.

If you plan to attend on of these swinger sessions, report the experience !

http://usuarios.arnet.com.ar/marielayruben/

Doc Bill

07-03-03, 05:43

Hola! I will be visiting BsAs from Brazil in September. Can anyone recommend best flights from either Rio or Iguassu Falls? Also, it appears that there are three airports in BsAs. Which one should I fly into if I'm staying in Ricoleta (sp?)? I am thinking about spending a week in BsAs; is that enough? Too much?

Thanks so much!!!

Exon123

07-03-03, 16:44

Lexton --- Its been my experience at Black to go in and somehow get their phone numbers --- If you want to invest in buying them a drink or just ask for their number and leave thats your call but some how find a way to get in touch with them --- Then sometime around 3:00 the next day call them and ask if their interested in a 1hour quickie before work which starts about 11:00 for them --- That way you have a good honest shot at some $150 ar time rather than the $300 USD shes going to quote you in Black --- Hopes this helps --- Exon

Leo

07-03-03, 18:16

Otto,

You like the $35 tapas better than Barbie the bartender?!

Andres

07-04-03, 01:55

DocBill449:

BA has only one major international airport, Ezeiza-Ministro Pistarini. Aeroparque Jorge Newbery deals with domestic and small flights to neighbr countries. Moron, San Fernando and Don Torcuato are small airports that don't provide high scale commercial services.

You will for sure land in Ezeiza and take a cab to Recoleta, about 30-45 minutes from EZE.

A week may be enough or not, depending on your objectives.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Garotoz

07-04-03, 03:19

I will be travelling to BA in August. I have read many of the reports posted on this board and I have found the information on this Forum more helpful than any other. I have read the Clarin Ads and most of the services offered are from cellular phones. Since most of the apartments offered for rent do not have phones or cellular access, can I rent a cellular phone. Where and what is the cost.

Thanks,

Garotoz

Capital B

07-04-03, 03:31

DAY 1

Last nights flight from Miami to B.A. was deceptively short thanks to a decent neck pillow. Its cool here and with Mayras capable assistance I found my hotel successfully.

This afternoon I started my holiday by checking out the brothel on Santa Fe which is referenced earlier in this forum. Being a griñgo with very poor spanish made for interesting encounters along the way. Armed with the address I found the building easily, however after ringing the bell and being greeted with a rapid string of Spanish that my highschool Espaniol teacher neglected to teach me, I was buzzed into a glass lobby where I found what appeared to be an empty elevator shaft and a rather steep marble stairway. Being a gordo griñgo I opted for the elevator and after pressing the button a few times a freight elevator appeared and I climbed aboard. The surprising thing about this elevator is that if you dont hold down the button of the floor you want, you may (as I did) encounter people on other floors. I rode the elevator up and down the building a couple of times before jumping free as it passed three. Once there I buzzed the door and was greeted by an attractive young woman dressed professionally in a sweater and slacks. I was befuttled, suspecting I had accendentally wandered into a family dwelling, however she quickly figured out that I was looking for la mujeres. She showed me to an interior room which was attractivly furnished for a brothel, and had ornate high ceilings and curtained windows looking down to the street. She told me with a mix of spanglish and hand jesturs that the girls would come in and see me one at a time after which I could choose the one which pleased me. After meeting them all I chose Pamella. Pamella is tall, perhaps 5 7" long dark hair, supple tan skin and soft natural B cups. She was truely fantasitic, a true GFE. Despite our language barrier we managed to have fairly good conversation after the first round. Excellent all the way, we were on our second go around when the egg timer popped and although she kept me on for a few more minutes my concentration was broken and 100$P + 20$P tip, I decided to hit the street again. Definately my best incall experience thusfar in my limited travels.

This evening I decided to head over to Madahos. Upon entering, I sat down near a beautiful young lady named Jessica. Blond, petite, med. length blond hair back in a braid she was affectionate and sweet. Although her English was no better than my Spanish we managed to exchange enough information to become interested in each other. My immediate thought was to walk away and see more of the bar, it was around midnight and the place was just starting to pop, however Jessica convinced me to buy her a drink which I did, and must have had sucker written across my forehead immediately. We discussed a price, agreed on 200$P for dos horas. Between 2 drinks and cover charge I left 100$P behind at the bar. Long story short, one of the worse experiences ever. She demanded money up front, and again (as a sucker would) I obliged. Beautiful girl, but very bad between the sheets. Complained if I touched her body, short cbj, and after about 10 minutes got off the pony and asked if I was done! Very much an automaton in the sack. Long story short, if you meet this one, steer clear.

One final note. Having only been to 3 other countries in Latin America I am plesantly surprised at the cleanness, beauty, and modernization of Buenos Aries. It is a wonderful city deserving of more closer inspection than just of the fine qualities covered in this forum. I look forward to enjoying all aspects of this beautiful city and the country as a whole.

Peaceful travels,
Capital B

Slash

07-04-03, 08:15

Amigos,

I need some help; I am thinking of having one of the girls from Escortsbaires meet me in Mexico. I am tired of seeing the same girls in Cancun. Did anyone have any experiences with any of the following girls Amira, Michelle, Biby, Barbarella, Aixa, Alicia, Katherine, Georgina or Bruna? Thanks very much for any help.

El Aleman

07-04-03, 10:18

Slash:

I had the pleasure with Bruna from EscortsBaires during my last stay in Buenos Aires - and it WAS a pleasure.

She is a medium dark skinned Brazilian girl, speaks as far as I remember a little bit of English (which, together with my little bit of Spanish enabled us to some conversation) and really seems to enjoy what she does.

I would, however, consider coming down to Buenos Aires instead of having a girl meet you in Mexico. Throwing around lots of money for airfares etc. might spoil attitudes and prices......

Andres:

Do you by any chance have anything to do with aviation? If yes, please email me at scrh01@gmx.de, I might have some questions off topic to this forum.

OttoGraham

07-04-03, 15:20

Originally posted by El Aleman
I would, however, consider coming down to Buenos Aires instead of having a girl meet you in Mexico. Throwing around lots of money for airfares etc. might spoil attitudes and prices......
Slash, I am in 100% agreement with The German on this one. Cancun is a dump compared to Buenos Aires; there's no comparison whatsoever.

-Uncle Otto

OttoGraham

07-04-03, 15:26

Originally posted by Leo
Otto,

You like the $35 tapas better than Barbie the bartender?! Leo,

(For everybody who doesn't realize, we're talking here about the bartenders at a place called Periplo, which is on Alvear across the street from the Marriott, just off the San Martin Square where Florida ends. A great, classic-style bar!)

Well, my friend Leo, it's a damn strong Tanqueray and tonic, PLUS all the tapas I can eat for 35 pesos. Not exactly cheap, but hell, I was having a drink at the bar of Morton's of Chicago a couple weeks ago, and a small and weak gin and tonic made with rail gin was eight bucks all by itself.

I think if I were to drink domestic gin at Periplo, the cost would be 20-25 pesos. I drink Tanqueray because I prefer it, not because the local stuff is bad, because it's not.

As for bartenders, I rather like Sr. Reynoldo. He is pleasant, discreet, and just chatty enough, just as a professional bartender should be. I don't want to leer at my bartender; he has another important role to fulfill! ;)

-Uncle Otto

OttoGraham

07-04-03, 15:34

Originally posted by Lexton
Now I am totally confused.

I have yet to buy a chica a drink at Black. (etc.....)Lexton,

Do you speak Spanish? This always makes a difference with negotiations.

What I always do at Black is seek out my favorite waitress, blonde Edit, when I arrive. My first 20-peso drink chit is usually converted to a chit-plus-15-pesos Tanqueray and tonic. Edit is a (non-English speaking) sweetheart, and will seek out some sympathetic English-speaking girls for you if that's what you need. Or if you speak some Spanish, will make recommendations from that perspective as well.

Chica's drinks are generally 40-80 pesos (depending on which), this is true. So beware buying more than the one drink if you're not planning on taking the girl out (or even if you are!). If in doubt as to price, ASK. There's no shame in it.

And always give Edit a nice tip if you feel she's been helpful! She always takes extra special good care of me, and it's not because of my good looks, it's because I am pleasant, I always ask for her, and I tip well when I am satisfied. This is a lesson a lot of you should take to heart, and not just in Black! I have a particular waiter at the restaurant 1880 who also is forthcoming with excellent recommendations and always is pleased to see me. Of course, he knows El Gringo Otto, is a good tipper, too!

-Uncle Otto

OutoftheGame

07-04-03, 16:21

Garotoz, just contact Mayra at mayra@argentinago.com. She will take care of everything.

JustGotBack

07-04-03, 19:35

Prepare to be overrun by American tourists. There are all these travel articles telling people that BA is now the low cost destination in South America. Here's one.

www.msnbc.com/news/915478.asp

Jaimito Cartero

07-04-03, 20:48

Capital B - Almost everyone (including Jackson), has had the old money up front thing. I consider it a very bad sign.

Even though your little brain may be yelling at you to go ahead, don't do it. Kick her the hell out of the room, if she's being rude, don't even give her taxi fare.

A lot of people have posted little primers in spanish here. Review the messages, and take a business card, and write the 4 or 5 more important ones on them.

For instance, I always ask for a BBBJ before I leave the club. If they say no, I move on.

I also guage their affectionateness in the club to me. Even though I'm also a big fat guy, if they won't snuggle, kiss and at least act like they're having fun, it won't get any better in the room.

El Aleman

07-04-03, 21:08

Slash:

I want to sustain the comment Otto gave to my response to your inquiery.

I don't know Cancun, but I know Buenos Aires, It is a classy place, up to if not above the standards set by cities like Barcelona, Prague, Rome (PLUS the chica factor) and really worth going there. And, quite affordable - even if I sincerely hope that this fact remains a secret to most of the world as long as possible.

Otto:

From your previous posts, I have the feeling that we share some concepts about a good life. It would be a pleasure to meet you some day. We certainly will agree on a place for Bife and Malbec. I will most likely be in Bs.As. end of August / early September. Should you care to contact me: scrh01@gmx.de.

greetings from the Old Europe

El Aleman

Slash

07-05-03, 05:57

El Aleman:

Thanks so much for your comments. Can you tell me more about Bruna? How old is she? Does she look like her photos? Is she shaved? What will she do? Some of the guys that post say the girls are older than their photos look. Thanks again for your help.

El Ricardo

07-05-03, 11:17

Originally posted by Slash
Amigos,

I need some help; I am thinking of having one of the girls from Escortsbaires meet me in Mexico. I am tired of seeing the same girls in Cancun. Did anyone have any experiences with any of the following girls Amira, Michelle, Biby, Barbarella, Aixa, Alicia, Katherine, Georgina or Bruna? Thanks very much for any help.

Slash,
I've seen both Barbarella and Aixa. I saw Barbarella in her apartment for a short session, and I think it was the morning after for her....a little hung over. She actually mustered up enough energy to go a couple of rounds with me, but she tried to pull the "pay me what you pay in the US..." thing. I believe you can negotiate with her. I did not, but this was BJ (ie Before Jackson!)

As for Aixa, I've done a couple of things with her: TLN's and travel to Iguazu Falls for a few days. I think I paid her more like $150 per day (plus expenses of course)...I would try for a better deal if I ever decided to go anywhere with her again. I say this because I believe you can find some who are excited by the idea of travel, and will cut you some slack.

When I tried to see Aixa in February, she told me she was leaving the business to get married. During the same trip, I went to dinner with Adriana (webmistress for Platynum) and she confirmed that this was the case, but also told me she'd believe it when she saw it as Aixa has done this before. Well, Aixa is back!

The reason I tell you all of this, is that I think she's a sweet girl with some problems with being in this business, and it manifests itself in her health. While she worked hard to make the experience a pleasure when we travelled, she spent a lot of time sleeping during the day. She has difficulty sleeping at night, and must do the "disassociation thing" during sex. Also Aixa is a little older (33 years)
If you have more questions, let me knkow,
ER

Dickhead

07-05-03, 14:41

Got in Thursday. Amigovia numero uno was there to greet me. I had told her not to waste the 16 pesos for the Manuel Tienda bus to come to the airport but it turns out she spent two hours on a combi for 1 point something pesos. I think she likes me. She again gave me her spiel about how she was going to screw me twice a day so I wouldn't have anything left for other chicas. She is half right. Anyway, spent two days apartment hunting and I think I have one lined up; it is supposed to be 100% sure for Monday which probably means 50/50. 500 pesos a month for a two room apartment off of Avenida de Mayo, furnished and including utilities. I will have to spend some pesos for sheets, towels, pots and pans, and the like.

Last night hooked up with mongers J and B for a trip to Estilo Nuevo. We ate dinner with my amigovia at a parilla for 40 pesos for the four of us, including wine which they said was not very good. I know dick about wine; it tasted fine to me and had alcohol. Then I sent the amigovia off to do whatever and we proceeded in a cab to NEB. Well, J got a little excited and thought we were at the street we needed to turn on, then the cabbie made another mistake and it ended up taking a long time. I think the meter was 21 or 23 or something but he just told us to pay what we thought was fair. We gave him 12. A good guy. NEB was dead at 10 PM. We inquired what time the show was, were told 11:30, and proceeded to the bar next door to play pool. Nice clean place, great pool table, friendly waitress and bartender, and we were the only ones in the place. They were bringing many take out orders over to NEB.

Headed to NEB a little after 10:30 and got good seats. This time we stayed until 3:30 or so. There were 3 lesbiana shows. The first one had one of the lesbianas that J did the last time we were there but the other one is no longer employed there. That is OK because J sais the one who remained was the better of the two. However, this time much of the sex appeared to be simulated. Second lesbiana show was two sisters!!! We decided this was both a turn off and a turn on at the same time. They were very skinny. However, despite my amigovia's valiant and repeated ball draining efforts, I was starting to get horny. At some point J called the first lesbiana over to the table as B was scouring the crowd for the sisters. B doesn't speak Spanish but once he had about 8 beers in him it didn't seem to matter as much. J had already been with someone so I asked if lesbiana Antonela was fair game. He replied in the affirmative but due to ball draining, alcohol, and a glaring lack of Viagra I required some further convincing. She provided this in the form of dick stroking and peep show, and quoted 150 for the hour. I disremember the half hour quote but I think it was 100. An hour is too long but half an hour is too short and best to err on the side of caution since I think I was on about beer 12 plus the wine with dinner. Hit the head and then said look can we go 140 because otherwise I won't have enough for the cab. OK, fine.

Now for the good news. One no longer has to go to the rooms upstairs at NEB. Rather, one is escorted by one's chica to a hotel half a block away. Nice new, clean rooms, tastefully decorated (like I would fucking know ...), TV, blah blah blah. Best thing is the shower, which is huge, has all glass enclosure so you can watch your wallet and your chica while you are in there.

This chick has a grade A body. Fully shaved pussy, firm good sized tits (although not huge and of course the old padded push up bar sort of overstated the merchandise). No holds barred, all holes bared. I played with her body for about twenty minutes prior to any type of penetration. Then DFK, DATY, FUTA (hers of course), CBJ, and FS in multiple positions. I had told J and B that anyone who could get me off again that night would have to be damned good. She was, and she did. Full body shower out of courtesy to my amigovia who was waiting back at the Marbella, then out of the room with five minutes or so to spare. Nice girl. Heavy smoker, though, but kind enough to brush her teeth before and after and not smoke in the room.

Got back in time for another lesbiana show, which went from two rug munchers to three rug munchers to four rug munchers. B returned from his bout with one of the sisters and J suggested he get all four lesbianas for 400 pesos. B respectfully declined. What a goo-gobblin´round-robin that would have been ...

J was pleading tiredness having just arrived that day, but B and I were thirsty and gunned down several more Brahmas prior to leaving. Predictably, J got a second wind and suggested Hook's. Now no one can say that Dickhead hasn't been to any of the clubs downtown. No cover but the 12 peso beers appeared to have the same amount of alcohol as the 5 pesos beers at Estilo Nuevo. Many, many chicas of a moderate average quality, with a few dogs and a few 7s. Average quality at NEB not too high either. Supply far exceeded demand in both places.

I went into my act: Je regrette mais je n'parle pais anglais ou espagnol. That worked pretty good in getting rid of excess chicas but they are quite aggressive there as compared to the NEB where they cannot approach you. I bullshitted with a few, drank one beer, bought no one any drinks, and cabbed it back to the Marbella. I had told the amigovia I thought I would be back about 1 and it was 5. When I came in she asked what time it was and I told her 'uno y pico.' She questioned this and we determined that it was in fact a bit later than that. She was a good sport about all of this and wanted a full report on the lesbian show. I gave her the report and then gave her what little was left of my dick and that was my evening.

Amigovia numero uno is with her kids today but amigovia numero dos is anxious to get together. I think that will require Viagra so I am heading downtown.

Your faithful servant,

Richard M. Head, Esq.

Andres

07-05-03, 16:05

Dickhead:

Glad to see you at the line of duty again.

If you need to stuff you apt with pots, pans, sheets, etc, go to the Once quarter (where the non-expensive kitchenware and roomware are sold) or a neighborhood "bazar" (Santa Fe St has some at the 3000s). At Once, Azcuenaga St, Larrea St and Paso St, all between 200 and 600, should have many stores in which you will find acceptable quality for a third (or less) of the price at Buenos Aires Design - Recoleta.

Near Congreso (that is, near Av de Mayo) there were a couple of bazar stores at the 100-300 Entre Rios Av blocks. Maybe you can promenade there and see the prices. There is also a bazar (not cheap but not expensive either) at the 300s of Callao Av.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Hysteromania

07-05-03, 16:07

Yes, last night out was indeed fine. Capital B and I could move to Argentina for the coffe alone, Dickhead already has moved! Cafe con leches seem to always be cappucinos and for about 60-90 cents and an occasional free cream puff or pastry plus the awesome natural brown sugar, why bother with Starbucks!?!

Going to back to monger activities, Starfucks, as I will like to coin the term for Estilo Nuevo, is still one of my favorite hunting grounds. It is simply so much different than the boliches, less pro it seems. Girls are young, petite and animals when you get them back to the room. Had 21 year old Celeste who was only 5´1 but dynamite comes in little packages. Seemed so sweet and innocent and the real light brown hair (no bleach) was basically blond under certain lights and a real turn on. Shaved pussy but the rug matched the curtains which is something I have not seen down here lately but really liked!! ;) All in all, fantastic kisser, great sex, fresh tasty pussy, multiple positions and grande finale to let me cum between her absolutely fabulous tits. What a gal! Only complaint was she got anger I shot up on the pillow as well. I told her that she should not have dodged my bullets. :) She is from Missiones near Iguazu and has ancestry from Germany and Brazil. Told me how the south of Brazil is full of blond, tall women (I gotta get up there!).

Hook was okay afterwards, as we said, quality goes down as you go further south like to microcentro. Dickhead went home since he had a girl who already warmed up his cama and Capitan left with a really nice looking chica, looked like that girl from 90210 and Saved by the Bell, Amber Thyssen or something like that. Girls were pushy because the rent is due I guess and it was late. Actually met 2 girls both named Camila (will be confusing if they call me today!) One looked American, thick legs and all, ha ha! But really sweet brown eyes I could get lost in. Hook is mixed bag with 2 dogs among every 3 girls. A couple of jewels but when going in 4am like us, most are gone home with someone already. Somes 7s I dance with the girls to size them up height wise and touch around the midsection for concealed fatty areas, you can get surprised here otherwise.

Checking out the opera tonight seeing Carmen but can´t decide which chica to call to invite out. Got numbers from Hook but Celeste would not give me hers, I was smitten but now I am crushed. :( Even bought a suit yesterday and fixed up my now shiny dress shoes to go all out on my last night.

Any mongers in town, care to meet up for early dinner and a brahma!?!

OttoGraham

07-05-03, 16:55

Originally posted by Slash
El Aleman:

Thanks so much for your comments. Can you tell me more about Bruna? How old is she? Does she look like her photos? Is she shaved? What will she do? Some of the guys that post say the girls are older than their photos look. Thanks again for your help. Slash,

Another piece of advice to the uninitiated..... Don't fixate on one girl. The great thing about BsAs is the absolute, tremendous variety in women. It's not like going to, say, Bangkok, where all the women are variants of BFMs.

Also, by the time you make it down there, this girl might well be gone, her standards might have declined, etc.... The scene is always in a constant state of flux. So just show up down there and "go with the flow."

-Uncle Otto

OttoGraham

07-05-03, 16:58

Originally posted by hysteromania
Hook was okay afterwards, as we said, quality goes down as you go further south like to microcentro. Dickhead went home since he had a girl who already warmed up his cama... etc.... Hystero,

DH in a club?????? YIKES!!!!!! If he's not more careful he is going to be reported to the Greater Buenos Aires Streetwalker Society and will have his membership revoked.

Wonders never cease!

Well, at least he didn't pull one out of there. But I guess with the Berlin Wall being down for 14 years now, anything is possible in this Brave New World.......

-Uncle Otto

Boy in Lima

07-05-03, 19:45

Woau! Dickhead!

You just made me remember all those days I was in BsAs. I practically spent all those days in NEB. And if I manage to go back, one of the reasons would be for Antonella. Her name is Antonella Soledad. Oh God...She is that kind of little blonde sex machine. Absolute perfect body, beautifull blonde hair, perfect tits. I had 3 sessions with her in 3 different days. Altough I recall one hour session was about 220 pesos by that time (April). Oh, one thing maybe you forgot to mention is that she is not Argentine, she told me once she is from Uruguay indeed.

Oh, and the lesbian shows i am sorry to tell you evertyhing is fake. That's one of the things she confessed to me. Great sex, no kisses altough she tried to (I don-t usually kiss girls in this game). I remember the last time we both spent together, we ended by 5:00 AM and we couldn't find a taxi. We walked up and down the street across ENB looking for a taxi cab. People stared at me walking with this little blonde bomb..jaja. She ended up by make a call and have a taxi cab pick us up.

I tried also a blond girl who was very thin but had a GREAT ass. I don't remember her name. Not that good sex, just fair. Nice girl.
There was a tall, brunnete girl, great legs, she also took part in lesbian show. Fair sex.

But I remember there was a girl which always standed by the DJ cab? (anyone know her name?)..great...GREAT tits and a beautifull pair of legs. It was very usual to see bunch of guys approaching to her and she rejecting them. I tried once and she told me "I'll let you know when, I'm kind of busy now". I must confess I returned several times just to know WHEN she could let me play with her :). That time never came and I'm still thinking of how good sex she must have provided to some lucky ones.

I'd recommend anyone to spend some time on ENB and value all the good talent in there. I certainly once I found ENB, I sticked to it (maybe because of Antonella) several times. I personally found girls in ENB were much better altough quite pricey compared to other clubs.

I also tried Johana from Blacks , but that's another story.

Someboyinlima

Maddur

07-05-03, 21:50

Hysteromania - I would love to meet up with you and DickHead. Right now I am in MDP and my schedule is fluid. Email me at rajmaddur at h*tmail dot com and we can set something up next week.

Slash

07-06-03, 06:08

El Ricardo;

Thanks very much for your impute. For a trip like this I just don't want to make a mistake. So, it is better if I go with a girl that someone else has seen.

I also saw your post on Emily from the same agency. She is no longer posted on that site. Could she be going by a diferent name these days?

Otto Graham;

I appreciate your impute as well. However, I am a big fan of Cancun. I just like spending the day in the water. The pool or the ocean, it doesn't matter. In fact, I am looking to buy a condo on the beach there next year. I am use to traveling with one girl on trips like this. If you check my reviews on The Erotic Review you will see I have had great luck with Eastern European girls in Cancun.

When I do go to Cancun or Eastern Europe solo I do hop around as you say. I have had a few strippers from Cancun clubs spend the next day with me. I agree it is an enjoyable way to spend the trip. This time, I just want to try something different. So, I do thank you very much for your help.

Slash

07-06-03, 06:24

An offer you can't refuse;

I will be happy to make arrangements with Adriana for a fellow Punter to see one of my choices at my expense. I will be happy to pay for one of you guys to see one of the following girls (Michelle. Biby, Barbarella, Amira, Alicia, Katherine, Georgina or Bruna) for one hour. I will talk to Adriana to see whice girl is likely to join me in Cancun. That is the girl I would want one of you to see.

In return, I would want detailed information on the girl (age, looks, body type, theet and will she have sex with other girls) and your review of her sexual performance (what she will do, is she shaved). Thanks for your help.

El Ricardo

07-06-03, 10:45

Originally posted by Slash
El Ricardo;

Thanks very much for your impute. For a trip like this I just don't want to make a mistake. So, it is better if I go with a girl that someone else has seen.

I also saw your post on Emily from the same agency. She is no longer posted on that site. Could she be going by a diferent name these days?

Slash,
Go to http://www.escortsbaires.com.ar/ You can find her there and she's still listed as Emily.
ER

Fat Bastard

07-06-03, 11:07

Response to Slash's offer:

Slash,

I can tell you're a good sport and I must say your way to get a posting/information for a chica is quite original.

FB

BA_Robert

07-06-03, 11:18

Someboyinlima:

"But I remember there was a girl which always standed by the DJ cab? (anyone know her name?)..great...GREAT tits and a beautifull pair of legs. It was very usual to see bunch of guys approaching to her and she rejecting them. "

The beauty by the dj booth at NEB is probably Greta. She has been reviewed or debated a couple of times.

Dickhead

07-06-03, 13:39

Originally posted by Slash
An offer you can't refuse;

I will be happy to make arrangements with Adriana for a fellow Punter to see one of my choices at my expense. I will be happy to pay for one of you guys to see one of the following girls (Michelle. Biby, Barbarella, Amira, Alicia, Katherine, Georgina or Bruna) for one hour. I will talk to Adriana to see whice girl is likely to join me in Cancun. That is the girl I would want one of you to see.

In return, I would want detailed information on the girl (age, looks, body type, theet and will she have sex with other girls) and your review of her sexual performance (what she will do, is she shaved). Thanks for your help.

I would be happy to oblige you here and since I am a Dickhead I can assure you I will make a VERY thorough investigation ...

Dickhead

07-06-03, 13:49

[Maria]

Last night I was cruising with B and after checking out the window content at Orleans (B was impressed by the sheer quantity if not the quality) we turned the corner from Paraguay onto Florida and lo and behold there was Maria. She recognized me almost immediately and gave me an extremely warm greeting. We exchanged fond memories and then with her friend Melinda we four proceeded to have drinks or coffee (Maria doesn't drink). B had a bit of trouble extricating himself from Melinda but did so and then I left with Maria to the Marbella, leaving B in his own capable hands (so to speak).

Conveniently, the amigovia was gone for the night. Now the previous time I saw Maria I dubbed her the 'human vacuum cleaner.' This does not do her justice. She is really a cross between the Amazing Eight Pound Oreck and the Energizer Bunny. This woman just keeps on sucking and sucking and sucking. She is a nice sweet gal with an extremely dirty mind. What more could a guy want? Two and half hours of whatever I wanted and no mention of money. I gave her 120 pesos and some toiletries and she was quite happy.

You can flame me for doing streetwalkers all you want. Maria works on the same corner six nights a week and has done so for a long time. To me that is just an outdoor club with no cover, no minimum, no exit fee, and no expensive drinks to buy. This girl is totally clean, not on drugs, not a thief, has a good sense of humor, and an excellent memory for little details of what a guy wants or doesn't want. I know her real name and all about her family. I am going to do her again and again and again, over and over, repeatedly. Best cocksucker I ever met in my life and trust me, I've met quite a few.

Capital B

07-06-03, 16:18

Hi,
Just a quick note to add for someboyinlima, I think the blond you mention is the same as the one I had. Rumor has it (as much as I understand) that the brunette girl (other half of les show) is actually her sister. Now some may be repulsed... perhaps Im just a total perv, but it seemed extra caliente to me. As DH mentioned, the new hotel around the corner is much nicer. My room had a hot tub in addition to very cool lighting and other amenities that I would like to have in my US Apartment.

I remember very little of what happened after DH, Hysto and I hit hooks. No mas cervasa por favor. However I do know that at some point I lost Hystos number, so if you still plan on going out tonight gimme a call at the dazzler, just ask for me by name. Regardless, hanging with you two was a blast, and thanks for the memories...

Last night with DH was quite an experience. He gave me tips on the neighborhood and had a few beers but when his friend showed up I could tell he was unidirectional. I managed to loose the other chica and wandered around the area for a little while. Had a couple of beers and was going home to sleep for a change when I saw the MOST beautiful girl sitting outside of a hotel on 9th June Ave. She looked to me to be a guest who stepped outside for a smoke so I smiled and kept going, but then DHs voice rang in my head and I turned around and threw my whole repatare of spanish at her. Turns out shes 21, from Paraguay, and just arrived in B.A. Long dark hair, very tight body, and pure ivory skin. Without boring with details, it was a truly excellent experience and with all respect to Uncle Otto, I must weigh in on the side of Dickhead and say that in my very limited time here in B.A. the independents have my vote.

Anyway, thats my story and Im sticking to it. If theres anyone in BA for the next few days that might want to hang out, drop me a line at controlledburning at hotmail.

Capital B

Jaimito Cartero

07-06-03, 16:48

Hey, Fat Bastard, you weren't going to help on the chica research, were you? :)

How does Roxana act when she's mad? I guess you probably know by now, eh?

JPF

07-06-03, 17:06

[Maria]

Dickhead,

I guess getting a free chica tops my paying for your admission to NEB. Glad to see that you found Maria and that you are still one step ahead of your amigovia. Enjoy your summer--I know you will!

OttoGraham

07-06-03, 17:21

Originally posted by Capital B
Without boring with details, it was a truly excellent experience and with all respect to Uncle Otto, I must weigh in on the side of Dickhead and say that in my very limited time here in B.A. the independents have my vote.

Have no fear, Capital B, everyone has different standards. I would be the last one to insist you follow my pattern.

Of course, I don't quite get the concept of flying 5 or 6 thousand miles to pick up streetwalkers when there are plenty of them of a similar quality trolling the city streets in North America. On the other hand, I've never found anything in America that rivals the club scene in BsAs, and that is DEFINITELY worth traveling for.

Do keep in mind that the only reason a girl walks the streets in Buenos Aires is because she's not allowed to work in a club or cafe. There are a number of possible reasons for that, and few of them are very pleasant to contemplate. If you don't believe me, ask El Jefe Jackson.

A word to the wise being sufficient: Be careful!

-Uncle Otto

P.S. Before somebody comes in and claims their SW is the exception to the rule I quoted above, let me say there's always an exception to every rule. Those exceptions aren't very common, though. For example, it is a rule that no supermodel will polish Uncle Otto's knob for free. However, it doesn't keep me from hoping...............

Capital B

07-06-03, 19:42

Originally posted by OttoGraham
Of course, I don't quite get the concept of flying 5 or 6 thousand miles to pick up streetwalkers when there are plenty of them of a similar quality trolling the city streets in North America. On the other hand, I've never found anything in America that rivals the club scene in BsAs, and that is DEFINITELY worth traveling for.

Do keep in mind that the only reason a girl walks the streets in Buenos Aires is because she's not allowed to work in a club or cafe. There are a number of possible reasons for that, and few of them are very pleasant to contemplate.

... it is a rule that no supermodel will polish Uncle Otto's knob for free. However, it doesn't keep me from hoping............... Uncle Otto: Thanks for the excellent advice, while I can never be sure, I believe this girl was on the curb due to her recent arrival in B.A. I would be interested to hear why girls arent allowed to work in the clubs though. I have been under the assumption (3 words in assume... I know) that things arent extremely well regulated here (opposed to Amsterdam, Costa Rica, etc). Either way, I am SO familiar with the US and agree with your statement regarding the degradation of quality in the great homeland.

On the final thought, if that dream comes true pass her number along!

Hysto: Sorry we didnt get up in time to party some more, have a peaceful journey home and know that Ill be knee deep by the time you lift off :)

Dancesw/Chicas

07-07-03, 02:33

Fellow mongers

This post might be the cause of some discussion but, I am writing it just to tell it like it is to all mongers who had never been in Buenos Aires and after reading this board are thinking in coming down here.

Guys, don´t believe any post mentioning a ¨stunner¨, a ¨model like¨ or a ¨10¨. Sure there are good looking girls down here but some of the fellow mongers go over the top describing them.

I have been living here for the last 6 months (I live in the US) and I had seeing all the girls mentioned in the BA board including the famous Jovana from Blacks which is frequently place so high.

Another cases are Sandy of MRLA, Deborah (Salome), Antonella (NEB), Patricia(madahos), and many others. Do not get me wrong, the chicas have good service (read good, not once in a lifetime experiences) but, you newbies should know that the breathtaking, gorgeous girls that once were seeing ¨roaming free¨ are 99% gone, they took off hand in hand with the ¨convertibilidad¨.

Despite this exodus, there are new talent coming out (read clarin and la nacion) but, the ¨Belle Epoque¨ is certainly something of the past.

Oh I forgot, Dickhead, this girl Maria must really be suck you real good for you to put up with her looks. With all respect, she is really from the streets.

Like I said before, this post is mostly for those who never been here in BA. I don´t mean to offend anyone.

Chau, Amigos

Dances w/Chicas

OttoGraham

07-07-03, 02:55

Dances, there's no accounting for taste, that's for sure.

As for DH's Maria, I am almost virtually certain I saw her on my last trip near Cafe Orleans. I agree with you wholeheartedly. But to be fair, let's say she's not my cup of tea.......

On the other hand, I don't agree with you that the "best looking" or "most talented" girls have left Buenos Aires for greener pastures. There is always a great turnover of talent in the biz, no matter the season or the locale. And as for grades on a 1-10 scale, that's a rough guide that shouldn't be given too much weight unless one is familiar with the reviewer's tastes and preferences. DH's or my 10 might be another man's 5 (or less).

-Uncle Otto

Rovnak

07-07-03, 04:16

Dances, Otto,

I like the discussion of differences in taste.

I must admit that I have been perplexed as hell whenever I see a report that cites an internet girl because innevitably when I go look at the pix of that girl I think to myself "Why did this bloke choose her out of all the chicas on platynum or whatever? That is like the LAST chica I would choose." I am then forced to conclude that either we have radically different tastes OR the internet knockouts don't answer the phone because they are too busy or have left the country in the infamous pussy exodus.

Similarly with the pix taken by mongers (e.g club ******) I scratch my head saying "Are these the best chicas available or do the best chicas refuse to let their piicture be taken?"

I admit that I am ultra picky and part of the pleasure is the search. Still, I wonder how much of it is just different taste. Maybe we should conduct a mini-survey where each of us chooses his top 10 chicas (based on beauty alone) from say the platynum or sensualbaires sites and see how much variation or agreement we come up with. Anybody interested?

Rovnak

07-07-03, 04:27

Personally I have one rule of thumb regarding female beauty - a womans breasts should never be larger than her ass. This I refer to as the golden mean or axium maximus.

Hence my attraction to the Brasiliera look - small breasts big butt combo. I would rather a woman spend a few hours a week in the gym firming up her tush instead of getting a boob job.

Judging by the internet pix, the big boob fetish is flourishing in BA. Not to say that I will turn my nose up at some knock out knockers as long as they don't violate my golden mean.

Slash

07-07-03, 06:57

El Ricardo; Thanks again for your valuable help. I left out the (ar) part to the link. Sadly, Emily doesn't travel.

Dickhead; I have allready sent an e-mail to Adriana. When I hear back from her I will let you know. You will then be able to set up the time and place with Adriana.

I will be lokking forward to your very thorough report!!!

Jak

07-07-03, 15:20

Dances,

Liked your post. I've been here for about three and a half weeks, and although my first trip here was for a week at the end of March (so I can´t personally confirm the chica exodus), I have to agree with you that it is rare to see a "stunner" in this city. All the talk about one man´s beauty being another man´s dog is something I agree with and still find fascinating when I´m hanging with guys and talking about who´s "hot". I´ve had numerous conversations with mongers and non-mongers about the quality of chicas here compared to several years ago, and many guys say the quality has definitely dropped off big time. Seeing a chica in the street (or the clubs) that has it "all" has only happened a few times (and this is in a four and a half week total period). Yeah, I know guys tastes vary even on the "model" level chicas, but there are certain women that the vast majority of guys go "wow" over. They aren´t here in B.A.

But, I am still having a good time. While prices are creeping up and chicas are quoting silly prices out of the gate, you can still find 100 pesos an hour experiences with an "average" chica that happens to be a 7 or 8 for you. The GFE can be found, and there are a lot of good performers. I had a great week-long GFE that ended last Friday, and for the amount of time, sex, money and overall satisfaction, I don't think it would have been that much better with a "model" type (well, maybe a little - but then the odds are I would have had more of an attitude to deal with).

This is worthwhile information for "newbies" considering a trip down here. I can´t do the common comparison with Rio thing since I haven´t been there yet. I am planning a trip at the end of the month and am hoping for better than here.

Grshel1

07-07-03, 16:21

Just wanted to post that I will be back in BA the 14-22 of July. Just can't stay away. Got a great fare with AA.

Prokofiev

07-07-03, 17:52

Gentlemen . . .

I have learned long ago to take another man's rating system with a very large grain of salt. Tastes vary widely. Large breasts, whether real or not are the ticket for many guys. For me, I couldn't care less. As long as they're real, they'll do. But fake body parts, tatoos, piercings, ridiculous high-heeled shoes, too much make-up or a less-than-friendly attitude are the kiss of death for me.

As for DickHead's love of SW's . . . I suggest you cut him some slack. It is not only the price but a sense of "reality" that is often missing in clubs. I don't really understand the fetish of dating 18 yo, air-brushed Barbie, high school drop-outs and considering it a true GFE. Most of you guys are 35-55. I'm 49 and there is no way in hell I can fool myself into calling a sexual encounter with a teenager a "GFE". I'll take em for a spin but I would prefer a 30-40 yo despite her less than perfect exterior. But different strokes . . .

Peace . . . P

OttoGraham

07-07-03, 18:47

Originally posted by Grshel1
Just wanted to post that I will be back in BA the 14-22 of July. Just can't stay away. Got a great fare with AA.

You are a dog, G, and absolute fecking dog! I am green with envy! Perhaps you should organize a review symposium of the girls advertising in the financial papers? The cause of scientific inquiry must be advanced, you know!

-Uncle Otto

JustGotBack

07-07-03, 20:59

Originally posted by Grshel1
Just wanted to post that I will be back in BA the 14-22 of July. Just can't stay away. Got a great fare with AA.

What fare did you get?

DownBA

07-08-03, 00:05

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Prokofiev
[i]Gentlemen . . .

I'll take em for a spin but I would prefer a 30-40 yo despite her less than perfect exterior. But different strokes . . .

Prokofiev,

Right on!! I'm in the second half of my forties now myself (urgh!) and I enjoy the young ones without a doubt but I can honestly say that I had the time of my life a few years ago with a chica I got to be really good friends with who told me she was 26 but I accidentally got a look at her passport and found out she was really 35 at the time. But this girl rocked my boat in a way few have before or after and I say that if that's what a 35 year old looks and feels like then BRING ON THE OLD 35 YEAR OLD FARTS all day long!!!

When we were strolling around my neck of the woods when I flew her in for a week of fun she practically stopped traffic and had some women even stopping her and telling her that she looked like a porcelain doll and asking her if all the women in Argentina were as gorgeous as her!! And she was oooooh so incredible to the touch, yummy is the right word!!! So in my book yes, I like fucking the young ones but as for a real gfe I'll take them just like my ex-Mendoza honey all day long!! DownBA

Dancesw/Chicas

07-08-03, 05:17

Hello fellows

I am glad that to see comments related to my last post.
Like I said, is mostly target to the people abroad who
read this board and are thinking about coming.
Today I am going to tell you about my explorations and
dissapointments with www.platynum.com.ar and with
www.bonnefeme.com.ar websites
Let´s start my current july 9/2003 list of what I call
¨Where is the girl of the picture¨. This is actually my
thinking when I see a girl in person and realized that
is really the girl of the picture but, something is just
not right. Is as if the pictures are computer touch to
make them look like they do at this Website. It would not
be a surprise, since Argentines are very good with
computers compare with the rest of SouthAmericans.
A theory I have is perhaps the pictures were taking
when they first started in the business and the girl was
at her best but, with the money they started making, they
began to party too much, indulged in restaurant dinning
nightly perhaps drugs and well, they just don´t look
that good even just 3 months later.
Add to that Argentine young people party way harder than
in the States. They usually dance until 6 or 10 am,
smoke too much and other unhealthy behavior. A girl that
is just 21 will easily look 26-27. Andres knows what I am
talking about. Personally I like to party too, I am
30, and my age is the cause of surprise for locals here,
since my appearance here will be the one of someone
who´s 25. I monger on and off depending on wheather
or not I am with a girlfriend at the moment.
OK, back to the Platytnum website
I have found some that are really as good looking
in person as in picture but, probably just 2 or 3 in my
6 months here.
Just like fellow Rovnak I am also very picky and rather
save my time and energy until I find my ¨white whale¨
If you are a reader thinking in coming for the girls of
the websites, well like Kramer would say ¨you better
think again buddy!¨
So here I go, the time now is 1 am, Tu 9-2003
All platynum girls:
Abril: Fake everything, eyes, breast, hair, you name it
(of course... name´s fake too) is almost funny!
Fiona: Same as Abril.
Camil/Rocio: Attitude, fake breast, piece of sky rates.
Bahaina: Fat ass, short, money hunger not nearly a
GFE, more of BWE (bitchwifexperience)
Candelaria: She opens the door and this what
happened.
ME: You are not the girl in the picture!
HER: Yes I am
Me: Where is my Candelaria?
HER: I am Candelaria
ME: Gotta go!
Ceci: If I want to have that fat ass I stay in the US
Morena: Attitude, tatoos, clock watcher..
Donna/Tamara: Big fat ass, bad breath, very poor
performance. Pictures must be
several years old
Anael: Awful hair, beat up looks. I am thinking
drug user looks. Way past her best days
Ely: Fat all the way. Like the ones you´ll see at
Target, Walmart, Macdonald´s etc...
Natalia: This girl still advertise here even when
she lives in South Florida now. Stay
away, her pictures must be 10-15
years old, but still thinks she´s hot.
Talks like there is not tomorrow...
Mariana: One of my biggest dissapointments...
Plain face, hardly ever smile to make it worst,
attitude, not very intelligent, rolls @ waist
fat ass ( Whenever I write ¨fat¨ I mean
cellulite, not just baby fat) I meet her
at a cafe to discuss a weekend getaway.
I took me 3 seconds to conclude I wanted
to have just a quick expresso!
Wendy: Her pictures are the ones of the good old
days. Not very good in bed either.
Laida: Drugs ruined her face, attitude, not worth
going to her place. And I don´t mean from
the US, I mean from my place 5 min away.
I also have to mention that a common charateristic in
90-95% of these girls is the lack of orderly line up
white teeth, they all crooked, poorly taken care of.
The other website www.bonnefemme.com.ar,
the girls are the one of the pictures but, they just
not so great when you see them in person, the
computer brushing of cellulite, bad teeth etc...
is just remarkable. I meet ¨Marilyn¨, she looks
in the pictures like Bridget Fonda in the movie
¨Jackie Brown¨ an all american beauty. Well in
person she´s super short, beat up face (Drugs?)
bad breath, nasty tatoos, you get the picture
Similar situations with Noelia, Baleria, Alanis,
Camila(I know, doesn´t she look good!), Azul,
Paola, I know all of them.
To get close to the reality of the personal info
of the chicas posted at this site do this:
-add 4-5 years to the posted age
-Sustract 4-5 cms to the posted height
-Instead of reading 92-60-92 read 85-65-85
Lastly, in some platynum ads you´ll find a sound
feature being display. When it works you will
hear music and a female voice saying how much
she wants you to call her and how good the
encounter will be etc... You guys know this:
there are 3 or 4 types of this pre-recorded
message. Is like if the buy the space at platynum
¨with or without sound¨. I heard the same
message with so many ads, It makes me laugh now.
I am telling you like it is guys. This is the kind of
post that I wanted to read when I was new to the
BA scene, not that ¨Blacks was packed with 10´s¨
or ¨Elizabeth Hurley likes @ Madaho´s¨ bullshit.
On the plus side BA is beautiful city, great food,
inexpensive (things are changing...) and is always
nice to be on vacation.
Thank you for reading such a long post.
Chau, amigos
dancesw/chicas

Jaimito Cartero

07-08-03, 05:34

You seem awfully down. I hope there are actually chicas you liked!

I would much rather have an average looking girl who has a great attitude and tongue, over a model girl who doesn't know what she's doing.

I can't comment on what things were like a year ago. I never found a shortage of nice girls. I never went home alone, that I hadn't planned on beforehand.

While more expensive than Thailand, BA has some of the most amazing women. I can see myself living there, where I can only think of visiting BKK for a month or so.

Jaimito Cartero

07-08-03, 05:35

What ever happened to Joe's reports? Albany can't be that miserable!

Dancesw/Chicas

07-08-03, 06:27

Amigos,

I know that my last post might sound pessimistic for some fellows like Jaimito Cartero. (that´s a funny name, I forgot all about him).

What I wrote is nothing but the true. Perhaps is combination of being very picky and not being influence with alcohol what makes me very discriminating I guess if you not demanding about it you´ll do fine, but is hard to accept it when you had experience Buenos Aires glorious past.

About a month ago, a girl who used to live in BA came to visit her family for a couple of weeks. She is one of the "old school" gorgeous chicas that live here during the 1-1 times. We met and she said there is a good group of BA chicas in London (where she lives) I didn´t even ask about her rates there....

Chau, amigos

dancesw/chicas

DownBA

07-08-03, 09:37

Dances with Chicas - I get the feeling that if you were on-site watching a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue photoshoot that you'd be finding all sorts of flaws and things about those chicas to criticize! You must be one of the pickiest sob's whose comments I've ever read.

The girls you commented about have to represent something like .01% of the available girls in BA - do you really think your comments are a fair and accurate representation of the entire field of available chicas in all of la Capital Federal? I'm much more inclined to go along with Bandy's recent post wherein he said that the reports of the gross decline in the quality of chicas in BA is sorely ovestated and premature. And I have a friend who goes down there often who is selective to the max and he always finds modelesque young chicas to have fun with down there. So Dances, I think you're holding these chicas up to some sort of unatainable set of standards. DownBA

OttoGraham

07-08-03, 12:16

Dances is right, yes, all the good women are long gone from Buenos Aires. Stay the hell away! Go to London! To Moscow! To Bangkok! To Prague! Whats more, I hear there are some real hotties in Manhattan nowadays, why not go there instead?

(Surely this entire subject of "Chica Bleed" is going to lead nowhere. It is something which is totally subjective and cannot be proven or disproven with any degree of certainty.)

-Uncle Otto

Andres

07-08-03, 12:46

Dances w/chicas:

Many chicas who party very hard wear out fast, but my experience is that an average 21 y/o Argentine girl looks like 21.

Many mongers know almost exclusively the hard-play, hobby girls, many of whom claim to be 21 y/o and are actually 5 or 10 years older.

As a side comment, having spent 10+ years in the University of Buenos Aires, I can say that the average middle-class Argentine girl looks young but not necessarily hot (just 1 in 10 university girls looks really hot)

Hope this helps,

Andres

Dickhead

07-08-03, 13:32

[Maria]

After reading DWC's recent posts all I can say is I am glad I am a Dickhead with low standards. Now my Maria is not a 10 but anyone who thinks her looks are something to `put up with' is nuts. And plus she is not `from the streets.´ She is from a smaller town in SDE province, finished secundaria, only has one kid that she waited until she was 23 to have [and yes I have seen her documento so I know how old she really is], and has never lived on the streets. She's been living in the same departmento in the provincias ever since she got here in January of 2002.

But the bad news is that Karen has a boyfriend now and has `retired´, at least temporarily.

Anyway I am all set up in my apartment so now I am Porteño and can start fucking my neighbors.

Capital B

07-08-03, 13:57

Originally posted by dancesw/chicas
What I wrote is nothing but the true. Perhaps is
combination of being very picky and not being
influence with alcohol what makes me very discriminating
I guess if you not demanding about it you´ll do fine, but
is hard to accept it when you had experience Buenos Aires
glorious past.

Just a personal note, a good friend in the states has a similar outlook on women. Often times we look for the flaws instead of the assets, if this works for you I say more power, however - keep in mind that as memories fade they become more plesant to remember. Not to insinuate that you have less than perfect memories of prior experiences, but... well yes I guess that is what I mean to insinuate :)

My benchmark the world around for women, is how they work with what they have. If American girls took better care of themselves, (including attitude) forums like this would be full of comments on their beauty. In BsAs it seems to me that the women work to enhance their natural beauty, keep themselves fit and attractive and generally maintain themselves. This is certainly not a scientific assessment so YMMV. Either way it makes for an interesting topic, thanks for bringing it up.

Capital B

07-08-03, 14:14

I hit the apartment at 2254 French st. yesterday. Seemed expensive for incall, 130$P-hr. Of course Im not one to forego an experience just because I wont have enough change left for an empenada, so I took an extremely slender girl with short dark hair for a test drive. It was just fine, however the accomodations were very nice. Hot tub, nice lighting, good sound system, really a very nice apartment. With all this though I must say that I would not recommend it to others or go there again myself.

Partied all night (no mas cervasa por favor) and showed up to hooks about 4:15 am. Doors were closed and the last girls were leaving. Went next door to Cattos, no real talent to speak of, about 12 girls and two older guys (mid 60s) sitting at the bar. I watched the lounge act for a while until closing and inquired of a lovely short haired blond part brazilian part German girl as they were closing, however she wanted 200 Pesos for an hour, I offered half of that and she offered me to go home alone, which I gladly accepted. Sleep, sweet sleep.

Been trying to get in touch with Dickhead, but so far no luck, will keep trying throughout the day. Tonight a crew of about 4 guys get together to go out. Celebrate 7/9 a little bit early. If anyone in BA wants to meet up it should be fun! controlledburning at hotmail

Peaceful travels,
B

BeachBoy

07-08-03, 14:32

Hey dancesw/chicas,

Lighten up fella.

When you search for a gorgeous girl with perfect social skills on websites, you should understand upfront that you are participating in a commercial transaction. As part of that equation, the girl offering herself will try to present herself in the best possible light. It is no different from Barney's decorating their windows at Christmas to attract the customers. Beneath the glossy veneer is a basic human being, -you buy the fantasy and wake up with the reality. The world tends to work that way.

However, a trained eye can spot evidence of both beauty and defects, and there are things even airbrushing can't erase. If the girl wears a baggy or dark skirt in all the pics, chances are the ass is fat. If her face never shows even shaded or partially, she is probably a dog. If she says no travel, she probably has a few kids. Believe me, these girls are experts at showing their most advantageous sides, they produce a highly skilled art together with a talented photographer, a few clothes, makeup, hair and the right amount and placement of light.
To me it is fun to explore and deconstruct all the parts of the process and imagine what the girl looks like at 2pm at the coffee shop in her ripped jeans. But the pictures can get you only so far.

Then there is the personal commentary, which I find just absolutely hysterical and charming at the same time. One girl listed as her stated aversions: Treason. Yes, agreed, crimes against the state ranks right up there, well ahead of mundane stuff like spiders, lies and rodents. Another said her favorite things were: Ribeye steak with mushrooms, and blow jobs. (Araceli on Escortsbaires, look it up!) I also saw a girl claiming to be a pilot. Oh yeah, I just hook on the side for sport, I am actually doing 767 duty this month to Miami!!! Just priceless stuff!! Some of them have the most unique imaginations, and the translation to English ensures the most absurd statements.

So dwc, you have to do your homework, see the girl behind the photo gloss, talk with her on the phone to gauge the personality, see if she has a sense of humor. Then meet her for coffee or lunch before you set up a night of fantasy and sport. It is actually an enjoyable process, and there are many diamonds in the rough out there, but it sounds like you want things served on a silver platter.
That can be done too, but it will set you back some serious dough.

BB

Bandy

07-08-03, 14:33

Dances with Chica,

You are 30 yrs. Old, look like 25 and post like 15. My only suggestion will be "grow up".

Women are not commodities, even when you pay for them. Your world of BA chica scene is much different than that I just visited. If you just go by the look, I am afraid you are overlooking lot of gems in this business.

You call an escort whom you never met and you expect a GFE from the get go. On top of that she must look like her picture which of course you selected for her "look". To have an enjoyable experience, you have to invest time. I remember my first encounter with "Venus", an internet escort reviewed wonderfully by fellow monger EZE_Amante. The appointment was only for an hour. We talked for an hour before a single article of clothing came off. It went for more than 4 hours and she only asked for 200P. You get them involved in the encounter and your pay off will be more than you can imagine.

The girl from Madahos, with whom I spent four nights this time confessed freely that the first night she came for the money. But when she got to know me intimately, money became secondary and she would have seen me anyway whether I paid her or not. And in my book that's how the great experiences are built.

The internet escort who I took to the tango show this time came to my hotel that night wearing a very inappropriate (quite revealing) top. I had seen her before and since she was a university student, I felt she should have enough taste to dress appropriately to go out with me. She realized I was upset and although we are running out of time, she immediately took me to her apartment. She went through her entire wardrobe until she found a top which I liked. This is called consideration and formed the basis of an unforgettable experience. I will remember this simple fact more than how she looked like or how good was the sex (not that I have any complaint on these issues). Deep down they are all normal girls craving for affection and nice treatment by their clients.

Although you stated that you are trying to help the newbies with their expectations regarding BA chica qualities, IMHO you are actually doing a disservice to them. You went through the laundry list of escorts who you didn't like but failed to identify the 2 or 3 escorts who you actually liked. That would have been a meaningful addition to this forum. What a difference between Andresg1967's posts and your posts. Every post by Andres brings new insight of hobby scene in BA. In contrast, you are a person who is still obsessed that NASDAQ hit over 5000 in 2000.

Bandy

Guillermo

07-08-03, 14:53

DWC,

All the chicas you mentioned are from the internet. I get the impression that you spend your days sitting in your room, waiting for internet chicas to appear at your door. Do you spend any time in the clubs? Or even on the street? I think that if you stick strictly to the internet chicas, disappointment is inevitable. Simply because, as you say yourself, it's too easy to alter a photograph, or just keep using the same one for decades.

For those who are living abroad, I would say that Argentine women, in general, are not take-your-breath-away beautiful. I was there for 10 days and never saw a woman anywhere, in or out of a club, that would fit that description. If that's your standard, go to Eastern Europe, where you can become dumbfounded just standing in line at the grocery store. Just make sure that you are fluent in Russian before you go.

I think guys who are looking for physical perfection are missing the point. What's important is not the body, it's what animates the body. The character, personality and attitude. I'll take a good solid "6" who is intelligent, funny, charming and motivated to please my every desire, over a perfect "10" who just can't be bothered, any day.

The clubs in BA are full of attractive young chicas. They may not leave you gasping for air at first sight, but you sure will be by the time they are finished with you!

As far as what's really important, Argentine chicas are about as good as it gets. IMHO

Guillermo

Frans

07-08-03, 15:16

DWC,

I am a bit surprised by your postings.

I have been only once in BA in the last 6 months and after spending 2 weeks I posted a long report with facts, name, description of service, price, etc...

Searching through the 15+ postings you have made so far I can't find any useful information.

Why?

MeGustaBoliches

07-08-03, 17:43

I have been in Buenos Aires for the past month and have only had one average session with an above average looking chica...countless outstanding evenings with chicas who are 7s and an occasional session with an 8 who performed like a 10.....

Dances with Chicas....I find it relatively useless to post reviews of specific women from Boliches for two reasons....1. the chicas change, sometimes from night to nightl...2. a chica who gives you a lifeless session may offer me an unforgetable time...possibly vice versa, though I doubt it from the tone of your posts....

I never spent more than 200 pesos plus drinks for any chica...and still took plenty of chicas home for 150 pesos...I also spent some quality time with chicas from the newspapers, both Clarin and LaNaCION....NEVER SPENT MORE THAN 80 PESOS AND OFTEN LESS THAN 40.....some of the most passionate, caring chicas I met were from the paper...

It is amazing that a little kindness and respect shown to a chica will get what money cannot buy...a gfe experience to remember....

Even whores are human.....

Suerte, Dances, Suerte....

Dancesw/Chicas

07-08-03, 19:28

Amigos

Thank you for reading.

All of you old school and not so experience BA mongers know that there are good girls to be found here.

There is not need for me to write about them since many people do it already. Where there is shortage is in posting that tell it how it really is.

I am posting to the regular Joe back in the US who is reading about gorgeous girls and places full with 10s, the guy whos jaw drops with the website girls. I know my posting is appreciated by some of them.

I think I know what is going on here. Perhaps I am wrong but, it looks to me as if there are two types of guys down here. The ones who are looking for some kind of connection with the girls, a romantic experience of candlelight dinners and lots of talking. This guy don´t care too much about looks because he is looking for girlfriendlike connection.

The other type is a guy like me who looks for a the absolute breathtaking beauty with exceptional bedroom skills who is going to provide a great time a at restaurant and at the hotel without bullshit talk about kids, going back to the club or overstaying the desired time etc...

Amigos, let´s just help each other and make good use of this awesome website. Is not how good in bed the girls are with some BA mongers, I am sure they are as good as posted, is the way some mongers describe them, like "gorgeous or goddesses". My last experience is this girl from Rio who works @ Cafe Orleans, her name is Roberta, someone wrote about her as an experience not to be miss with an incredible body... Her performance was very good but her body was not nearly close to be incredible... I did her just make sure I was not judging that body with the clothes on. Whenever meeting a girl at Madahos, Blacks or anywhere else, would it be too much too suggest that instead of writing about seeing a model like girl or a perfect 10, let´s just write something like "I saw the chica of my dreams" or "a chica caught my attention, she was 5,7 dark hair etc..."

Allow me to now make some comments regarding some of you fellow responses.

Guillermo: If you read my last post it seemed like I spend my day in front of a computer ha! No, no the reason is that the last post was focus on websites only. A couple of days earlier I posted about some of the clubs.

Just so you understand where I come from I tell how I get to my conclusions. During the morningtime I check websites to see what´s new. During the afternoon I do my professional thing @ the microcentro ( the reason why I am here for 6 months). Early evening I do a chica and later I hit the clubs (not every night of course). I also check the cafe scene and non-pro clubs during weekends.

Capital B: Your experience at French 2254 is just like my experiences there. Average girls, average service. A little dissappointing for being consider one of the best in Recoleta. Bandy: You have contributed a lot in the past which makes you a ´made up´guy who´s opinion is deserving of some reading, however your point of view is different than mine, that´s all. No need to tell me to grow up. The experience that you look for is simply not the one every single guy wants. You wrote: "deep down they are all normal girls craving for affection and nice treatment by their clients"

Are you then suppose to pay for that?

The way I see it is that when the client is paying the affection, nice treatment etc, is direct it to him. I know that it sounds totally selfish but, If I want a reciprocal loving time, talking for hours, hold hands, theater, dinners etc. Then I just get a normal real girlfriend which I do on and off. See, we are just different, that´s all. Beachboy: I know what you mean about training your eye when looking at the sites. Good point.

Jak: You seem to understand well what I mean I am glad is not just me.

Dickhead: I did not mean to say that Maria is a homeless chica. When I say that she is from the streets I meant she is just not like Otto said "my cup of tea" or any other liquid whatsoever. I know her and talked to her a couple of times she smiles and when I see that kind of teeth is hard for me to think of something not even close to a BJ.

I remember last year when I came for a few days and follow your posting about her and Karen. I mean, I knew you said they were not beauty queens but, when I saw them @ Fla street. It was like being a footsoldier on a mission and hearing someone calling an ambush!

Megustaboliches: Funny nickname!! This is what I mean, you just rate some girl as an 8. Who knows what an 8 looks to you!! While an 8 to you she might not be that good for someone else. Why don´t you just describe her appearance and performance?

Anyway, another long post.

Thanks for reading.

dancesw/chicas

Downunder

07-08-03, 19:59

DWC

I think after your last reply I can understand better what you are trying to say. Bascially your saying - if your paying for it, you want somebody alot better looking then your wife. I'am I right ??

Because many times I feel the same way, that I want the dream, a 10 not a 7. After all we all want the perfect "trophy" women, only thing is that most times that dream that we want is next to impossible to find because even when you get physically what your looking for - something's missing on the inside.
That's just my 2 cents

Exon123

07-08-03, 20:54

Im sorry but I have to make a few comments on Dancesw/Chicas observations --- Your just a young Kid and your Wrong --- When I was 30 years old I knew very thing in the world and no one could tell me anything --- Suprise the older I got the dumber I became and with time guess what I learned how to enjoy life --- The internet is the last place I'd look for a date if I was in Buenos Aires --- You have to go out and work the clubs, streets and yes the shopping malls --- You have to come eye ball to eye ball and meet thease girls and work for your "GFE" --- Theres no way one can go into a ***** house or call an internet girl and have the experience your looking for --- For example " Robreta " from Cafe Orleans --- Roberta is one of the finest escorts Ive ever been with --- A true Jem of a girl that gave me the best experience I had on my last trip --- And you know why ? --- We earned each others respect --- And I always treated her like a lady and she treated me the same way --- I respect her because I offered her a bunch of money for TLN but she said no because she has an 11 year old son which ment more to her that getting me off for the whole night --- But she then asked me to come to her home for Sunday night dinner --- Oh "but bring Roxana" she said and pretend that Roxana is your girl friend so my son won't know about us --- Roberta is a class act and if I lived in Buenos Aires I'd cut a deal with Roberta where she didn't have to work so hard and her standard of living would improve --- And oh by the way if you don't like Roberta's body theres something else wrong with you --- You've got a lot to learn Dances --- And start with treating thease girls with some respect and it will come back to you 10 times over ---- Exon

Starfe

07-08-03, 21:48

exon123,

'When I was 30 years old I knew every thing in the world and no one could tell me anything --- Suprise the older I got the dumber I became and with time guess what I learned how to enjoy life "

I agree with your comment about knowing less as we get older.
I do disagree with you about the escort business in Buenos Aires.

I have had some of my very best encounters with the women from Area -Vip. Bar none some of these girls are outstanding in looks, quality and friendliness. I no longer have the energy to push all nighters chasing women and a service like Vip fits my bill to a " T ". Yes I have has some disapointments but for the most part it has been a homerun for mewhen in B.A.. I had some of the best dates of my prowling life off that site, and thats 30 years of world traveling.

After trying Rio's escorts service ( july 4th ), I have much more respect for the way Argentina's websites are portrayed.

Starfe

JustGotBack

07-08-03, 22:07

Dances, do you use an old teletype? Why are your posts only about 40 characters wide? It makes them a chore to read.

Slick1

07-08-03, 22:10

You go away to Cali, Colombia for 4 days and return to find the BA board on fire. Sure wish I had the benefit of DWC's insight into the real Buenos Aires before I travelled down there 3 times this past year. I can't believe the rest of us were so mistaken and jaded in our opinions. Oh well, maybe were being too hard on the guy. Sometimes the penchant for seeing only the flaws and imperfections in others is born from complex inner feelings of inadequacy and fears of rejection. Hence the necessity to be the rejector rather than the rejected. Its sad, so sad.

Andres

07-08-03, 22:38

Slick1:

I would like your point of view of BA chicas vs Cali chicas. Are Cali chicas hotter but less educated (on average)?

Is the hobbying world less developped in Cali while the semi-pro/non-rpo action more expanded than in BA for the outsider/gringo?

I know some people addressed it, but I just wanted to get your opininon, since you are "fresh" from the trip.

Thanks,

Andres

Dancesw/Chicas

07-08-03, 23:41

Fellow readers

I do not think some of you are getting my point. I am not attacking the chicas( except the ones with fake or brushed pictures at websites. They are rip off artists)

The girls in BA are just fine. At Blacks, Madahos, Orleans etc... you will fine girls attractive enough to have sex.

They are the way they are and that´s final. I am not asking any girl to hit the gym or get on a diet since is not about them. THIS IS ABOUT THE GUYS WHO DESCRIBE THEM AS MARVELLOUS WORKS OF NATURE...

Let me give an example ( you guys in the States pay attention)

Exon 123 comes out recommending Roberta from Cafe Orleans. Since I walked Cordoba Ave on a daily

I went inside to see what´s up. We talked and then walked to the Horizonte motel. I already know that Exon 123 went overboard about her looks. Still I go ahead with the session... just as good as posted, good skills, nice girl, inner beauty, a wonderful human being.

See how I agree with Exon 123 on all of that. I have nothing against the chicas! They´re just chicas!

My big concern is Exon123 writing "the most perfect body Ive ever seeing on a woman" Ha! I don't know dude, I guess we´ve been living in different planets...!

Chau,

dancesw/chicas

Slick1

07-08-03, 23:59

andres

In my opinion, for the club scene BA is head and shoulders above Cali, for the non pro scene I truly would put Cali head and shoulders above BA. I was discussing this issue just the other day and our consensus was that in Cali it is almost a complete role reversal. The analogy we used was imagining the hottest girl at the bar in the USA, and all the attention she gets. In Cali, you become that hot girl, so to speak. I have never been stared at so much in my life. It's not that the Cali girls act in a slutty or provocative manner but they show no fear in staring you right in the eye for extended periods of time, even when they are sitting with or on the arm of a guy. They don't have the usual inhibitions in letting you know they are interested.

In terms of sophistication, I don't speak Spanish well enough to truly test the levels of sophistication, but there do appear to be abundant numbers of well educated Colombianas. What sets the Colombianas apart in my book is their love of life. They truly are a lot of fun. The cute hot little Calena I wrote about in my posts on the Cali board I always perceived to be rather reserved and quiet. That is until I went out the other night with a fellow board member and his calena. They both spoke fluent Spanish. I was actually enthralled with watching my girl come to life at the table since she finally had some people she could converse with on much higher levels. So I guess in reality in Cali it is I with my college and post graduate education that is actually the unsophisticated one. And that my friends is why I purchased the complete works of Pimsleur.

In terms of hot chicas. You all know I love the ladies of BA, but those Calenas, they have a look and way about them that is so damn sexy. No disrespect to the lovely Portenas, but I lean toward the Calenas. But, and this is a big But, Cali is not BA. It is not for everyone. If being frisked or seeing machine guns in open view makes you nervous, stick with Recoleta. I have had two fantastic trips to Cali and avoided any trouble,but I certainly take extra precautions. The vast majority of Colombians are undeserving of the bad reputation, but even they will warn you of the dangers. Any other questions I'll be glad to answer but I think we probably should do so on the Cali board. Take care.

Mojokpr

07-09-03, 03:17

Hi,

I need to add something to this discussion. I was in BA last year for several weeks, took a spanish class with several students in their twenties and they were surprised at how little the Portenos drank when out partying. True, they stay out all night but I don't recall seeing stupid drunks the way I do here (US). They smoke like crazy, but that's another discussion.

Finally, if you need a super model, 21 yo stick with tits, save yourself the trouble and go somewhere else. It's not that the women here are more attractive than back home (they are) but that they are still feminine, treat you like a man and like to be treated like a lady. I'm 46, met a 30yo in a club, that, while not a jaw-dropper, she would truely turn heads here in the US, had a wonderful attitude, treated me like a man, not a doormat, was fun and easy to be around, very presentable when we went out (often), just an all-around great person and beautiful lady.

I guess you find what you look for.

OutoftheGame

07-09-03, 05:36

DWC,

I want to try and get to a point that goes untalked about in this little discussion we are having. In my visits to BA I was lucky enough to meet a bunch of great guys. I was also lucky enough that none of them treated me bad due to the large age difference between us. With most readers on this board or any of the other boards I believe that the average age would be close to 50. So if your 30 I would imagine you might have alot higher standards than a person alomst twice your age.

I was able to spend some time with Exon123 on my last visit and had a great time. But I knew that we had a different rating scale when it came to women. I wasn't with him to meet Roberta but on my first trip to BA I went to Orleans and wasn't impressed with the girls at all. I do remember talking to a girl that Exon had been with at Madaho's and she was asking me where he was. So I told here he was back at the hotel with another girl. So then she asks me if I want to leave with her,I couldn't believe it, she was old enough to be my mom. Now Exon might of had a great time with her but looks are to important to me.( I know I'm very shallow).

So no matter what anybody says about how good looking a girl is I wouldn't believe it. It an on going battle on every section about how do you rate girls 7 or 8 or 10. I remember a few months back we had this discussion and Jackson put is own rating scale up. I think we need that scale again.

By the way if your in town for much longer and want to check out a different club I would try "Cocodrilo" I talked about this club before but only a few have gone. It is geared more towards a younger crowd and you'd be shocked on the selection you can find. But I won't say they are girls of your dreams or anything but I think you'll be happy.

Xthrax

07-09-03, 08:51

DWC,

For a guy stateside about to embark on an extensive visit to S. America, I very much appreciate your posts and want to let you know that at least part of the intended audience gets your point.

I have seen some average Argentine girls here in the States and they definitely pick up my interest, but after reviewing some of the Argentine websites and pics of the girls, my eyes are widened and sobered before going to the "promised land."

For context, I am in my mid-thirties and am not hard on the eyes. I appreciate and cherish GFE. But, if that is my primary purpose, then I might as well just do the traditional dating.

I feel you did a great job in forewarning your target audience(for me in particular) to not expect absolute perfection and consider your posting an extremely valuable contribution to this board.

I still look forward to my stop off in BA in a few weeks, but I am glad I will just go with an open mind to have fun and not be totally disappointed that every woman in B.A. is not a perfect goddess.

Point taken!

Slash

07-09-03, 10:09

My offer;

Dickhead and friends, here is the latest on my offer. It looks like it is down to 2 girls. The girls are on www.escortbaires.com. The first girl is Aixa. I am going through Adriana for this girl. So, this will be easy for me to send money to Adriana and have her give it to Aixa. Aixa will never know one of you gave her a test ride (so to speak) for me.

The second girl is Biby. She is my first choice but, she will be harder to work with because I am talking to her directly. I don't want Biby to know this is a test run for me. Do any of you guys have an idea on how you can see her with me paying for the hour? I hope to complete this mission by the end of the week.

MiddleAgeGuy

07-09-03, 11:30

Slash,
Biby is also Carolina on AreaVip.com.ar if you want to see another perspective. She was also on the top 10 of my list last visit but the club scene and 1 1/2 hearted 1 hr session phoning the web girls prevented this.
On the other discussions regarding BA talent, a lot of intersting insight there. For my 2 bits, each time I go to BA, it's a little different, and so am I. I was with a newby for a little bit last time and it was interesting to hear his perspective. For sure, you should be able to find wild, memorable times, and others not so memorable. I did notice coming back to N America that while there are just as many great lookers here, it seems that the BA women hold themselves, (their walk notably), just a touch higher on the more desireable side. They want to impress just a bit more. They know their sexual power edge and show it. And let's not forget, when in BA, we are away from home and the 'setup' is a tailor made situation you will not find in too many other locals.
middleageguy

Slash

07-09-03, 11:52

Middleageguy;

Thanks for the additional web site information. I guess you came in on my request near the end. I want to meet Biby (Carolina) in Cancun for my vacation. I was looking for someone that has actually spent time with her. I want to know if she looks like her photos and other information. Thanks again!!!

Roxanne

07-09-03, 13:20

Hi, Buddies!!!

I'm back in Buenos Aires!!!! So I'm back to work, you can start emailing me and calling me at my mobile, and I will be very very happy to help you as usual!!!!

The ones who were making appts. through Mayra have to make them with her until you leave Argentina, it's a question of internal organization, but you can count on me to make city-tours or meet me. I will also appreciate your comments about Mayra by posting them, and I know she will be happy too.

See you, then, your tanned Queen, Roxana.

Roxanne

07-09-03, 14:37

Subject: several attempts to post my reports have failed-----please post it.

After a lot of consideration, my plan for b.a. was to use roxana for my first few
days, and how it would work. it was great. she gave a great intellectual tour of
the city and its history. then i gave her all my specs for the things i wanted the
chicas to agree to, plus my budget for 1 hour sessions. then i got pictures, names,
phones and gave to roxana. she set up all the dates. it was pefecto ! the plan was
for 2 a day, but that was not enough. all the girls were so beautiful and so hot . i
cant describe how good it was. and it got better and better. then i began
supplementing the roxana dates with girls i met arond town, mostly madahos and
newport(a great bar with many 7,8,9's---best scene in town for me) but didnt find
until my last 3 days. at newport, it is so easy to talk and set up details of the
date. you have so many good ones there. b.a. turned me into a high dosage sex
addict ! in 8 days, i was with 16 different women, one 6 times, 4 three ways and 1
four!
way !!!
and spent many 1 hour sessions with 3 other favorites.all were 8, 9's except two
7's and two 5's ! all were hot in the sack except barbarella, a 7, but she refused
most of the terms of our agreement. she only saved the date with s....... and
prostate stimulation. b.a. is "all good". a mongers paradise. 10x
better than costa rica. all the girls came to the marriott plaza hotel, they are
very chica friendly. i am a legend there now ! the club
scene for me sucked except for madahos and newport. in centro, all the places are
bad. girls are older, low down,fat and slutty and are 3,4,5, and 6's. stay away
from cutty sark and the iraqi doorman. he will promise you hot, cheap girls in
apts. dont believe him. i looked and left. black is a joke,well
dressed 7's with a 10+ attitudes. later i learned of the high drink prices.
solid gold is all 4,5,6's and not worth the trouble. madahos best to me , mostlly
6,7,8's. !

my budget was $40-70, never exceeded. the 3 and 4-ways were all $50 each. why
negotiate lower, this gave me unbelievable sex and service. all were happy.
i have been with many women in my long life. all but 3 girls, would rank in
the top 25% and several in the top 10. b.a. is incredible ! i will be back
asap.

i came, i saw, i conquered. not quite. i came many ,many times. i saw
many beutiful and so many hot chicas. they conquered me. i became totally
emersed in sex. i was with 16 different chicas 34 times, some multiple times, all at
my hotel. ba is heaven. a gave the economy a big boost. much more
later, plus a high recommation of roxanas services.

mongers------roxana was incredible. use all her services. it is much simpler than
learning the hard way by yourself and you pay what you request. and she will help
you with late date, language problems ,maps, experience, etc.

Baller.

Dancesw/Chicas

07-09-03, 17:41

Gentlemen

I am glad some of you are understanding exactly what
is the point of my posting.
I like to add that even when I seem to be very demanding
I still enjoy many girls here in this great city. I do internet,
incall places, cafes, Recoleta clubs, Microcentro clubs,
I hit on girls at the malls sometimes ( from the popular
Abasto one to upscale Patio Bullrich) and of course I go
to the clubs like Pacha, La Diosa, Danzon, Asia de Cuba
often finding girls from our well known clubs.
The difference is I don´t go around writing I was with a
stunner, a goddess, or a 10 since that is simply not true.
Like I said before, the audience I try to reach is my amigos
readers in the US. They are getting a false impression
with all the fantastic descriptions of places like madahos
and the girls there and anywhere else in BA. Also
with brush and fully orchestrated pictures in the internet.
If you are one of the old school BA mongers who just love
the girls here and think the place is heaven on earth,
that´s fine, good for you, but this board has a large
number of readers and perhaps when you write your
out of this world account of events you might encourage
guys to come and find out that your stunner, gorgeous
10 is not better looking or less of a good person than
a girl you can hook up with, even without leaving US soil.
If after all, someone is not getting my point I think the core
of my message was posted the 07-09-03 @ 01:41.
People who want to add something should go back to
the beginning of this discussion the 07-07-03 @ 04:33
in order to get fully update and inform with every opinion
posted by all members.
Chau, Amigos
dancesw/chicas

Dickhead

07-09-03, 18:03

Originally posted by Slash
My offer;

Dickhead and friends, here is the latest on my offer. It looks like it is down to 2 girls. The girls are on www.escortbaires.com. The first girl is Aixa. I am going through Adriana for this girl. So, this will be easy for me to send money to Adriana and have her give it to Aixa. Aixa will never know one of you gave her a test ride (so to speak) for me.

The second girl is Biby. She is my first choice but, she will be harder to work with because I am talking to her directly. I don't want Biby to know this is a test run for me. Do any of you guys have an idea on how you can see her with me paying for the hour? I hope to complete this mission by the end of the week.

Slash, you can e-mail me at my hot mail account, richardhead41. I would be glad to test drive Aixa for you. As far as how to pay for Biby???? I don`t know. Maybe Roxanna would have some idea of how to work it out.

Your faithful test pilot,

Richard Head, Esq.

Jaimito Cartero

07-09-03, 19:22

DWC

Agreed we all have different rating systems. However, I don't recall seeing postive reviews about chicas from you. I've only been active on the BA board for a couple of months, but I'd love to hear some of the outstanding chicas you've seen.

I'm planning on going to BA later this year again for 2-3 weeks, and would like to have a list of the "must do" girls.

Another tip, if you make real paragraphs, and enter carriage returns every now and again, it makes reading your posts much easier.

Patata Chips

07-09-03, 19:26

Some one have a directions for high level girls? Is not my first time in BA, but I whan to see something specials. You know the level of the club of Miami or Milan? I was in Blacks, Madahos, Solid Gold, Playwoman, Affaire, Cattos, Periplo, Cutty Sark, Ladyes, Havana, and not stunners found. Is impossible, for sure is some place where you found beatiful girls, I wait the answer.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid future delays, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!

Fat Bastard

07-09-03, 22:26

Guys,

I have a post of a different type you might like to read. It involves my favorite chica…I guess you could call her my amigovia. I have violated the “no more than three times” rule with this one. Anyway, one evening, I asked what was on the agenda and she said that she wanted to go dance at an alternative club called Amerika (Gascon 1040...off of Cordoba). I asked, “Define alternative club.” She said, “You’ll like it. It’s quite out of the ordinary. Cross dressers, gays kissing, transvestites, lesbians kissing, everybody’s on ecstasy.” Now guys, I’m VERY open minded and I figured why not? My amigovia is a high spirited woman who likes things to be a little different just to keep things interesting.

Well, we arrive at Amerika about 2:00 am (I’m a gringo…it’s still hard to start the party this late, but when in Latin America, that’s the way it is). When we pay the cover, they give you a condom along with your change. I’m thinking, “Okay a condom….I like this place already.” We go inside and wow… let me tell you this place is huge with two floors. There must be three hundred people dancing to loud techno music…and as advertised…there is every kind of person in there. Straight people on ecstasy DFKing on the dance floor, some guy dressed as Robin (as in Caped Crusader), a guy bigger than me with long hair and huge boobs, etc. There’s even folks smoking MJ somewhere. This is a great place to people-watch.

As we’re walking, my chica in front, some guy walks by us and proceeds to run his hands ALL OVER her body and then continues on. She turns around and says, “He didn’t miss a thing!”….and she’s laughing about it! Well, maybe I should walk in front. Wrong! While I’m leading, guys are hitting on her BIG TIME. Being a gringo, I’m thinking, “Hey, WTF? I’m giving them dirty looks. She realized this and says, “Hey, we’re in a wild club...this stuff happens here…tranquilo! Everything is fine…I won’t let things get out of control.” So I chill and just enjoy the ride. After all, guys are hitting on my woman and I guess that means she’s looking good….and she is!!! BTW, bottled water and booze is free with the cover charge…I think 15 pesos…and the water is starting to go through me. So we head to the men’s room with her waiting outside. I come back out (after two gays literally watch me pee while standing on each side of me…I told you...wild place) and some guy is trying to kiss my chica’s neck! I walk up and I ask how many guys have tried that? She responds that he’s the second one to try and pick her up/kiss her! We head to the dance floor, begin to dance and do our thing. After a few minutes, some women run up to my amigovia and start kissing her!! Did I mention that my chica is open minded?! Now I am not one to stand in the way of my woman kissing other women! About two nanoseconds after this, their male friends start trying to line up and get into the middle of the kissing. My chica says to the ladies, “If your guys are going to kiss me, then you kiss my novio! Well just like that, I’m kissing these women and my girl is kissing these guys. Throughout the night, there is more kissing and groping of strangers. We had a blast and my amigovia enjoyed all the attention she received. She has an open mind and I guess she gave off the right vibes because everybody seemed to flock to her.

The club closes at 6:00 am and we decide to bolt about 5:30 to beat the exodus. All in all, a great place to watch many different kinds of people who have one thing on their minds….being with other people in a sexual way. Something far different than the normal monger venues. I hope to go with her again soon.

FB

Fat Bastard

07-10-03, 00:06

Jaimito Cartero,

Hey...sorry for the delay in posting....how's it going?

Concerning my participation in a chica research....are you referring to Slash's offer?? Ain't life great? Oprah Winfrey would shit a gold brink if she knew that men actually enjoyed life in ways so offensive to her ears....where one guy needs help in picking a woman and asks another's help in Slash's most excellent manner. I love it!!!

But I have to say I was only complimenting Slash on his style and idea....I wasn't indicating a desire....as a matter of fact, I think Dick Head is a better candidate and was NOT surprised (and laughed my ass off) when he piped up with an offer to "help out" his fellow monger (punter). Other good candidates: Tio Otto for a more refined outlook, Dances w/chicas for a list of all her faults (sorry DWC..you have that coming), and Jackson for a down and dirty "let's just screw" report.

When you make it back into town, let me know. My yahoo email is fatbastard1962.

FB

BeachBoy

07-10-03, 00:54

FB,

Nice scouting. Way to go, descending into the sewers of BA and reporting back to the team. This place will now be a must on my list.

I have done Buenos Aires News on a Thursday night, Millenium, and a few other dance joints, but what you describe is straight out of New York's meat district in the 80s, like the Anvil and stuff of that ilk.

Which is the best night to go??

BB

Fat Bastard

07-10-03, 01:07

BeachBoy,

According to my amigovia, Saturday is always the best night for discos in BsAs. I forgot to mention that the dress code is liberal ranging from casual (yours truly in jeans and a Scooby Doo T) to prom dresses (the cross dressers) with an occasional costume thrown in. Also forgot to mention that at 5:00 am, tons of foam started pouring out of the ceiling onto the dance floor. I was trying to avoid the stuff to save my shoes, but others literally dove right in. Quite a diff place.

FB

Elvis

07-10-03, 02:55

FB,

What's up? This place Amerika sounds cool, I've heard from my friends that it's that wild.

I'll probably check it out on my next visit in September.

Thanks

Jaimito Cartero

07-10-03, 05:33

FB - Yeah, sounds like you had fun there. Maybe you're both too domesticated, and she's trying to give you a hint. :)

I'm hoping I can back to BA for 2-3 weeks in late October or early November. I'll probably try and rent an apartment similar to the one Elvis got.

I went ahead and booked a trip to Bangkok for a month. It's a bit cheaper than BA for that amount of time, and the ticket is about 60% of what a BA ticket costs me, and another 5k frequent flyer miles. I need to have some more clothes made, so I figure I'll take care of that first.

How hot is it in BA in October/November?

Elvis - Sounds like another Techno place for you! I wonder if Yessica likes Techno?

Grshel1

07-10-03, 11:29

I am arriving Monday (14 July) for another wonderful week in BA. Call me at Art Suites if you want to get together for a beer and war stories.

George Shelton

Jak

07-10-03, 13:04

Affaire was reported to be closed recently. Went in the night before last and pulled a chica. Looks the same. A lot of the same chicas. I think it´s a good place to pull for the 100 pesos an hour guys like me. I haven´t had much resistence or crazy quotes here.

Maddur

07-10-03, 14:13

JC,
The weather in October / Nov will be very good (highs in the 70's and lows probably in the low 60's). More or less a perfect time to visit BA. Have fun!

Oh my God

07-10-03, 14:49

After many months of reading the WSG forum a long friend of mine had persuaded me to take a trip to BA with him. He had always told me that everything that I had read in the forum was 100% on the money. I had, at his prompting, contacted Roxana and for about a month we had corresponded to make arrangements.

Day 1) After an uneventful nighttime flight we had arrived about 8:00 AM in BA. We were both met at the airport by a driver and the lovely Roxana. Impressive!

A chauffeur as well as the beautiful woman I had corresponded with for the past month.

She had informed me that she had a set up a 1:00 appointment with "Celinda" one of the girls of my choice from Platynum.com.

We proceeded to check into the apartment that Mayra (mayra@argentinago.com) had procured for us in downtown Recoleta.

Upon entering the apartment I was taken back by what $80.00 a day between the both of us had rented, "Incredible".

An 8th floor condo with a balcony, 3 bedrooms, 3 baths, living room, dining room, full kitchen, laundry room, (like I was gonna do laundry), A damn Maid's room with a bath. We even had maids service. I was like "Oh my God" and my half only comes to $40 bucks a day.

After a shower and a quick nap, Roxana was there to take us to lunch at local cafe restaurant. I had a beef something or other, not sure what flavor the food in a foreign country would taste like. I was again pleasantly surprised. All I could say was again was "Oh My God"

The food there was fantastic. It was getting kinda late and we had to rush back to the apartment so I could hook up with "Celinda".

I wasn't quite sure what to expect. (you know, most girls never match photos) Celinda entered the apartment and I almost died.

The girl is striking, I mean simply striking. Better than the photos on the site I felt (all I could think was "Oh My God.")

An Incredible body, long legs, beautiful face with piercing green eyes. She doesn't speak "any" English and I don't speak "any" Spanish but I tell you what, at this point who cares?

People let me tell you: This girl treated me as though she had been in love with me for years and hadn't seen me in months.

Now I know it was an act, (I am not "that" naive), but it sure does make one, after 25 years of marriage, feel great to have someone make over you like "You" are the center of "Their" universe.

And after 25 years of marriage, that feeling kinda falls by the wayside. (Ya'll know what I mean?)

The payment was $100 Pesos an hour that's only $33 bucks.

"Oh My God" I thought $33 bucks for a girl that was totally in love and devoted only to me, at least for "that" hour. Anyway, I just "had" to have another hour.

Ahhhhhh, the price of Love. I would say "Celinda is a "Radiant Beauty" one worth calling on.

I don't have the faintest idea what my buddy was doing. Well, I really did, but I was kinda busy with my own business. And besides this is "my" post.

That evening my buddy and I were invited to dinner at Bella Itala by Roxana where we had met quite a few Americans that travel there quite often, as well as quite a few chicas. One just as beautiful as the next and of course the "Infamous" Mr.Jackson.

I was accompanied to dinner by a chica known as Maria Christina that Roxana had also prearranged.

This woman, let me tell you is beautiful, intelligent, very classy, defiantly shows a sense of style, and from what I hear is a little bit kinky, (A welcome change from the norm) Lets face it different is good.

And speaks English to boot. That was also a plus, considering I also wanted to carry on conversation from time to time.

Another "Excellent" restaurant with Great Food and Great Company.

After dinner, it was off to "Nuevo Estilo Boliche " for what everyone tells me is a great "Lesbian Sex Show". Everyone from the dinner arrives at the club which reminded me of a regular striper bar back in the states. Nice place lots of men and women there, kind of a small stage.

The show begins with 2 attractive dancers in thongs and tops, dancing to rock or techno. They are under a spotlight and there is a moderator talking over a microphone (Lord knows what the hell he's saying). All of a sudden the girls start kissing each other. Then, "Off come the Tops". Geez! They start sucking each others breasts. Then "Off come the Bottoms" and they start eating each other. Right on stage.

I'm thinking "Oh My God". I don't believe this. Can you imagine how long a club like this would last in the US? Incredible! I Loved it.

After the first set, a single dancer started dancing on stage and 2 girls from out of nowhere grab a guy from the audience and brought him on stage. All of a sudden,"Off comes his shirt", "Off comes his pants", And "Off comes the Boxers."

This guy is standing there up on stage "naked" while the girl dances around him occasionally grinds on him, I’m thinking ("Oh my God", I love this place)

It was like this "All" night, set after set.

And all this happened, And on just Day 1.

What a Day. What a Night.

I have 4 more days of fun and frolic to post. And I will never get it all posted at one time if I continue on. So I guess I will just have to post each day on a separate post.

Stay Tuned Gang.

BeachBoy

07-10-03, 14:52

FB,

I will consider appropriate dress options before diving into Amerika. Should be in a month or two, and I will let you know what happens. Maybe I'll wear an athletic cup just to be safe.

Did you and your amigovia pull any girls out of there, or was it just a visit to sneak a peek at the scene?

BB

MoonDog

07-10-03, 16:21

The club right next door to Ciceron (the old Affaire), is it still open as Closers, or does it even exist any more?

Thanks,

Moondog

Jackson

07-10-03, 16:44

I don't want us to go round and round with this subject like we already did a few days ago, so here it is again:

Affaire, Ciceron and Closers are all next to each other on Guido, just around the corner from the Lola Restaurant, site of the Annual WSG Thanksgiving Dinner.

Affaire and Closers have been in business for at least a couple of years now. The guy who owned Affaire decided to open another club named Ciceron on the 2nd floor above Affaire, with it's own entrance directly to the right of the entrance to Affaire.

Affaire is the kind of place where one is encouraged to examine all the goods personally before making as final offer. On the other hand, Ciceron was intended to be a more upscale place with a stage show and a lot more champagne sales.

After operating Ciceron for a couple of months, the owner decided that Ciceron was going to fail competing against Affaire, which was typically full on premium nights, so he decided to close Affaire and push everybody, bartenders and chicas included, upstairs to Ciceron. The Affaire marquee is still illuminated, but technically you are entering and walking up the stairs to Ciceron. The bartenders are still wearing their Affaire logo shirts, so don't get confused.

For those of you who might long for the slutty ambience of Affaire, I can direct you to the other location on Pueyrredon, where the chicas are fond of kneeling on the barstools, bent over with their elbows on the counter, in a line up that you are invited to examine in greater detail.

I'd tell all of you that Closers is a waste of time, but then on the other hand, we do need a constant stream of 1st person investigations to keep the info here updated.

BTW, you guys should ask Roxane about Amerika because she goes there all the time.

Jackson

MoonDog

07-10-03, 16:52

Thanks Jackson,

Moondog

Maddur

07-10-03, 22:29

Amigos,
Here is my report of my recent visit to BA. I have divided it into different sections for newbies. Saint, Uncle Otto - don't get offended. Dickhead - I now live by your motto : Treat a prostitute like a lady and treat a lady like a prosdtitute - so no need to take offense (besides I know it is difficult to offend a dickhead :-)

1) Ultra luxury kind:
If you have money to burn - you can try this option
Stay at Alvear palace (or atleast Diplomatuic room in Etoile). Pull out chicas every night from Blacks (Of course after buying them several drinks) - do not bargain! For more pointers, contact Saint. Uncle Otto should also be able to provide some pointers.
Total cost per week: Who the f**k cares ?!!
(If you visit MDP, book a suite at the Costa Galana)

2) Upper middle class:
This is what I am doing for this visit. Stay at Etoile (Executive) - the price currently runs around 205 pesos (includes tax and breakfast) - Who gets up for breakfast anyway ? You can visit any of the recoleta clubs (Madahos is pretty good) - just exercise caution at Blacks. I always managed a chica for 100 to 150 pesos short term from Madahos, Affaire, Closer, Sodoma, Playwoman and Solid Gold (YMMV). Also you can visit the day time casas (typical price 100 pesos) and get internet chicas (100 - 150 pesos).
Total cost per week: Close to US $ 1000 (YMMV) - if you do atleast 2 chicas per day - cost does not include lodging.
(Note: Next time I will not be doing this as Etoile sucks up a lot of dough)
(If you visit MDP, stay at Manatiales - nice place)

3) Lower middle class:
Stay at Dazzler or try to book an aprtment. You can visit the recoleta clubs or downtown clubs (Hooks, Cattos, ...) and pull out a chica for 100 to 150 short term.
Total cost per week: Around US$1000 per week if you do 2 chicas per day (lodging not included). You will save a lot on lodging compared to option 2.
(If you visit MDP, stay at Hotel Iruna)

4) Lower middle class with a serious budget:
Stay at Hotel Marbella or talk to the lady at 845 Viamonte. Limit your chica intake to SW's or known amigovias who will do it for less. Best person to provide more info: Dickhead :-)
Total cost per week : You will like it!
(Since I would like to visit BA more often, I am considering a middle ground between option 3 and 4).
(If you visit MDP, stay at Hotel Riviera - around 50 pesos / night)

Fat Bastard

07-11-03, 00:28

Beach Boy,

No chicas pulled from Amerika. It's more of a place to go and experience. I highly recommend taking a chica with you because I think you will just have more fun....especially if she's fun loving. Just keep an eye on her and warn her ahead of time that there's a good chance she'll be groped. Like I said, an open minded women is better.

As far as wearing a cup....if you wanted to, you could walk in with nothing on except the cup and that would be acceptable in this place.

Hey Elvis...how's it going?

FB

BeachBoy

07-11-03, 12:57

FB,

I will try to find a totally uninhibited, degenerate chica to accompany me to Ameriks on a Saturday night, 2 am. Of course, she should be hot looking too and know it's just fun and games. I think leather corset and Gestapo cap and boots would be a nice touch.

Any suggestions on who to call?? I think it would enhance the experience. More later.

BB

Dickhead

07-11-03, 15:06

Originally posted by Maddur
4) Lower middle class with a serious budget:
Stay at Hotel Marbella or talk to the lady at 845 Viamonte. Limit your chica intake to SW's or known amigovias who will do it for less. Best person to provide more info: Dickhead :-)
Total cost per week : You will like it!

I highly represent that remark. I hope the Norwegian guy posts something about the night of the Eskimo hunt ...

Exon123

07-11-03, 15:09

I highly recomemd Jacksons apartment --- Having stayed their for 5 nights I can state from 1st hand knowledge that its much better than any hotel --- I liked the privacy of not being in a hotel and the comfort of home --- Moreover it has the best location in Recoletta and the Chicas loved it --- It can't be but 50 yards from New Port across the street from McDonnals --- So bottom line is try it you'll like it and one more thing --- Jacksons apartment is truly a famous place and that in itself is worth the price --- I liken it to the Lincoln bedroom in the White House, Jacksons apartment is the second most famous bedroom in the world --- Exon

Andres

07-11-03, 17:01

Funny story:

The candidates for BA Mayor appeared at the "Disputas" series (a very popular TV series that picture the life of pro girls in BA).

http://www.clarin.com/diario/hoy/um/m-587737.htm

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En campaña por la Ciudad, los candidatos aterrizaron en el prostíbulo de Caetano

Inesperadamente y en el medio de un capítulo dedicado a la lucha entre vecinos y prostitutas, Macri, Bullrich, Ibarra y Zamora aparecieron para hablar de la prostitución.

Qué es lo que hacían Anibal Ibarra, Mauricio Macri, Patricia Bullrich y Luis Zamora en “Disputas”? Mezcla rara de unitario con noticiero, esta vez la sorpresita del programa no tuvo que ver con ninguna provocación indecente. Ni con la duda sobre qué tan explícitas fueron las “apretadas” entre Florecia Peña y Damián de Santo ni con la ¿osadía? de ver escenas lésbicas entre Nacha Guevara y Dolores Fonzi; ni siquiera con la evidente “insinuación” que se hizo sobre la visita de Diego Maradona. No, esta vez, la sorpresa terminaron siendo ellos, los principales candidatos a jefe de Gobierno porteño, que están en campaña y se les nota.

Convocados para hablar de la profesión más vieja del mundo, los cuatro políticos opinaron después de cada corte y antes de la continuidad de la ficción. Y como para resaltar la buena idea, el tema del capítulo les cayó al dedillo: una lucha entre vecinos, obsesionados por recuperar el decoro del barrio, y las glamorosas prostitutas de Caetano, aferradas a seguir con su prostíbulo poniéndole el cuerpo a lo que venga. Un cacerolazo, varias escrachadas y una paliza a Gala (Dolores Fonzi) quisieron darle otra cuota de realismo al capítulo de ficción, que ya había sido asaltado por la actualidad.

Consultados sobre la prostitución y sus experiencias personales, Ibarra declaró (sin jugarse mucho): “Yo no hago juicio de valor sobre la profesión” y confesó que nunca estuvo con una prostituta. Con más cara de pícaro y sin grandes revelaciones, Mauricio Macri insinuó que “las experiencias personales” tiende a olvidarlas. Luis Zamora admitió que “podría haberlo hecho, pero no...” y Patricia Bullrich, tomando partido por las mujeres, dijo que las “prostitutas sólo quieren amor”. Segundos después, las cuatro chicas de “Disputas” se encargaron de devolver su programa a la ficción. Obviamente, fueron ellas las que ganaron la batalla en el barrio y terminaron brindando “por un mundo sin vecinos”.

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Campaigning for the City, candidates landed on the Caetano's brothel

Unexpectedly and in the midst of a chapter devoted to the fight between neighbors and prostitutes, Macri, Bullrich, Ibarra and Zamora appeared to talk about prostitution.

What were doing Anibal Ibarra, Mauricio Macri, Patricia Bullrich and Luis Zamora at “Disputas”? Strange mix of a series and a newsshow, this time the surprise didn't revolve around an indecent provocation, neither about how explicit was the "body rubbing" between Florecia Peña and Damián de Santo nor with the "audacity" of seeing lesbic scenes between Nacha Guevara and Dolores Fonzi; not even with the evident “insinuation” revolving the visit of Diego Maradona. No, this time, the surprise ended up being them, the main candidates for the BA Government Chief (Mayor) position, who are explicitly campaigning.

Summoned to talk about the oldest profession, the four politicians commented between breaks. And, in order to pinpoint the good idea, the issue of the particular eposide became really handy: a fight between the neighbors, obsessed in recovering the lost moral of the neighborhood, and the glamorous prostitues of Caetano, determined to go along with their brothel no matter what to face. A cacerolazo (pot banging demonstration), many massive negative demonstrations against particular characters, and a battery to Gala (Dolores Fonzi) pretended to add a realistic coating to the fiction series, which had been matched by current issues.

Asked about prostitution and their personal experiences, Ibarra declared (without taking any clear position): “I never judge about the profession” and confessed that he never was with a prostitute. More naughty and without revealing anything important, Mauricio Macri surmised that he tend to forget “the personal experiences”. Luis Zamora admitted that he “could have done it, but not...” and Patricia Bullrich, taking the women position, said that the “prostitutes only want love”. After a few seconds, the four girls of “Disputas” brought the series to fiction. Obviously, they were the ultimate winners who won the neighborhood battle and toasted for "a world without neighbors”.

Hi Andres,

I think it might be helpful to provide a little background here. "Disputas" is a long-running Argentina sitcom about the lives of four girls who work in a Boliche. I've seen the show several times, and it's funny as hell, especially when you can picture yourself in all the scenes wherein the girls are dealing with the customers.

The title to the show is a play on words between the word "Disputas", which means disputes, which is re-aligned to mean "Das Putas", or "The Prostitutes". The show is all about the lives of these four working girls, but most of it is centered around their lives outside the club as they hide their real occupation from their parents, argue with their neighbors, find babysitters for their children, and yes, of course, negotiate with and service their clients. Hiding their occupations from their mothers, the bar scenes, and discussing the various aspects of their client's behavior all provide an endless series of punchlines. The show is being constantly refreshed with the coming and goings of new girls every season, and playing one of the four principal actresses for a season or two is considered a great boost to an aspiring actress's career.

I guess what's the most interesting thing to me is the realization that this program could never be played on American television, most notably because of it's open acknowledgement that boliches exist, and that many young women make excellent money performing the insanely simple task of servicing us mindless men. I can see it now: Pickets in front of local television stations, front page headlines in local newspapers, religious groups organizing boycotts of advertisers products, etc.

Watching this program, I am reminded of something that any man who has traveled outside the USA knows: In spite of the constant barrage of American propaganda to the contrary, people living in the USA do not have more freedoms than people living elsewhere in the world.

Jackson

Rovnak

07-12-03, 07:22

DWC,

As a newby I appreciate your candor. In the US we have a Forum that has plenty of negative posts and warnings because people appreciate information that helps them avoid ROBs and bait and switch.

The point here is truth in advertising. Many of the women may be fine looking despite their flaws, but it is difficult to feel enthusiastic about a women who post pictures that are several years old and severely air brushed. If I'm traveling thousands of miles I appreciate all the help I can get to separate the wheat from the chaff. Yeah, the clubs may be great and I would undoubtedly sample them, but it would be nice to know if there are some internet gems available during the time when the clubs are closed.

In the interest of fairness it would be really cool if you singled out some of the internet chicas who do resemble their photos. There must be some, no?

PS I can relate to your disinterest in the girl friend emotional bond style. For some guys that is the ultimate high, that is what they are looking for and god bless them. However, I am getting out of a long term relationship and just want some decent no strings attached pleasure. I never disrespect these women or treat them impersonally but then again i don't want to have to treat them like madonnas nor do i expect them to treat me like their boyfriend. If I find a woman attractive, I will let her know it and she usually responds well.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid future delays, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!

Rovnak

07-12-03, 08:02

I know this is off topic but the Italy board is dead and this board has alot of world travelers on it. So con permiso:

Patata Chips or anyone else familiar with Milan / Italy,
I may be going to Torino for business and have scoured the net with no luck trying to find out if they have a hostess bar club scene anything like Milan. I saw gorgeous girls (many Russians) in Milan over a year ago, and there must have been a dozen clubs in that city. Torino is nearly as large as Milan, do they have similar clubs? All I can find is information on conventional American style strip joints. I can see that crap in the USA.

Dickhead

07-12-03, 17:53

Another fun night last night at Nuevo Estilo with R. We met for coffee at Excedra and the quality and quantity of chicas was very high. Quantity similar to Orleans but far better average quality. Then prior to dinner there was a María sighting so I made an appointment with her to come to my apartment tonight. She will suck me so hard that I will pucker the sheets up my ass to the point where I get cotton mouth.

At Estilo, I did not intend to take anyone to a room since I still have a bit of a cold and since my amigovia had fucked me into near oblivion. However, that changed after watching Antonela have fake sex with some other blond. Antonela has lost the silly Bo Derek fake braids that Hysteromania found offensive. Therefore I was forced to rent her again.

Last week it was sweaty, writhing, grunting animal sex. This time it was so sweet and tender I didn't even sweat. I did ask for BBBJ this time but it was not to be. Whatever else I wanted was no problem. Someone else posted that she was from Uruguay but she told me she is from Asunción, Paraguy. Whatever. Don't know, don't care.

Then it was off to Hook's. I hate to admit it since Uncle Otto may read this but I like that place. I didn't take anyone out of there but got the phone number of Yesica, also from Paraguay, claims to be 26 but I think 31, nice girl with long dark hair. Hey Capital B, she says that the cousin you fucked and said was all drunk and crazy is jacked up on coke. That might explain a few things.

I left B and headed home for what passes for a good night's sleep in BA, about 5 hours. My amigovia woke me up with a blow job although she does not do CIM (I do it anyway once in a while just to let her know where she stands and because I'm a Dickhead). Then I went to the gym for a great workout, then to my other amigovia's apartment. She is a fun gal and has been dying to see me as I had not been able to work her in during the previous nine days.

This will be a personal best of 4 girls in one day since it was well after midnight by the time I slipped into Antonela. I did the first three with no Viagra and if I can do María twice with no Viagra I will have my dick bronzed.

MeGustaBoliches

07-12-03, 18:04

Maddur,

Nice description of the various levels found in Buenos Aires....

I would add....

ULTRALUX...Stay at Alvear or Caesar Park. Party at Blacks...Eat at Morenas or CloClos in Costanera Norte, or order room service from the hotel in the Alvear.

UPPERMIDDLECLASS...Buenos Aires offers its best value between the penthouse and the bargain basement in my view....I am not an Etoile fan, although it is close to everything...I prefer the NH City or Jousten, Art Suites or Design Suites...or Mayla Apartments.
Eat at Happening or Rosada in Puerto Madero or try Palermo Hollywood's Dominga or Palermo's Bella Italia....Party in Recoleta or the downtown boliches...fwiw, pulled two girls from Ciceron last week for 150pesos each....and two from Playwomen, one at 150pa the other for 200.

LOWERMIDDLECLASS...Dazzler is nice...also, if you are a AAA member try the Holiday Inn Express for about the same price....at this level, alternate between the clubs for chicas and LaNacion classifieds...where most chicas go for 80 pesos (there are some true stunners here!). Eat at Bisteca in Puerto Madero or 1880 Parrilla in San Telmo...or pick a cafe or Confiterria you like!

Serious Budget...try a private apartment as an alternative...for less than 30 a night you can sometimes get a nice place in Recoleta.....eat at confiterias....Grants (all you can eat) or check the lunch specials at places like the Empire Bar (10 pesos...great Thai food).

Roxanne

07-13-03, 01:19

Hi, guys:

I'm posting this because the guy asked me to, as he couldn't do it.

Bennie is the name to use:

I wanted again to mention to the mongers how important Roxana and Mayra were to my wonderful trip to BA. They were indispensible. You should hire them. An example of their great work was helping me with language problems with the chicas. We even called for help while together with my GFE. Roxana talked to her and me, mediating our problem and everything worked out. This happened a few times, she was so helpful. Thanks again.

Capital B

07-13-03, 03:56

Dang Dickhead... that would explain a lot!

Some background for everyone else...

Last night in town I was staying out too late at Hooks, and as they were closing DH translated a deal for me, semi-hot little (very young looking) girl for 100 $P. Now for some of you that may not be a deal... but whatever, at five AM I jumped on it.

Now the first girl I took back to my room that night around 2:00 or so was quite good... a little too good in fact, and we ended up breaking the headboard off the wall at the Dazzler! So when I showed up with #2 the room was quite a mess, however she didn't seem to care... popped a bottle of Malbec and chugged about half of it, started taking her clothes off and putting them back on over and over, then finally paraded around the hotel room with her G-string on just yammering away in Spanish (all I know is she wasn't ordering a beer or asking where is the bathroom). Neighbors banging on the wall and yelling, me trying to shut her up, her pissy and horny all at the same time... finally she goes in the bathroom and comes out with her pants soaked... she sat on the bidet with her skivies on.

Well we start going at it, and it's just freakin' weird... I don't know what she's saying but it seems to have something to do with her dad and seems to make her more angry as we progress... Feet up in the air she keeps trying to put her panties back on, soaking wet. Finally sprayed her face and sent her home... but man what a friggin' nightmare. Not how I wanted my last night in BA to end. But no matter, she stumbled wherever, and I was left to my broken bed for 2 - 3 hours sleep.

Long story short, if you see a girl at hooks who looks like she'll be turning 18 next year, way over enthusiastic and maybe just a little bit distracted, STEER CLEAR!

But shit, even with all that, she was better than any of the crack heads in USA!

Peaceful Travels,
B

Dickhead

07-13-03, 14:04

Well, I ran into a little problem last night. My amigovia is not living with me in the sense of having moved all her stuff into the apartment, but she is staying there most nights and is doing her sewing there during the day. But last night she had to go to her nephew's wedding with her son and I suggested that they stay at her place because there is no place for the kid to sleep other than the floor. She said she would do that and asked me what I was going to do. Now even though we have no commitment to each other and she has said several times I can do whatever I want, and even though she went out with another guy one night last week, I didn't think it was gentlemanly to say well I am going to have another girl over here and fuck her for hours (we have twin beds so that issue of rudeness is not a factor). That is what I get for trying to be a gentleman when I am really a Dickhead.

So I told her that some gringo buddies were going to come over for a poker game and that women were not welcome. Okay fine. So I got a 90 minute blow job from Marìa, completing my daily quadruple, but I knew I would need vitamin V to then screw her for another 90 minutes. I popped the V, then we chilled and had a snack and some drinks (no alcohol for Marìa). Then I was ready again. She blew me a little and then put the condom on. She had just just JUST put it on when the door buzzer rang. I figured it was someone looking for the previous occupants or something so I ignored it. Then I heard the key in the lock and I knew it was the amigovia. I had put the safety latch on. Marìa immediately indicated the closet but I said no, it is not a problem, just wait here. I went to the door and stalled by asking who it was. Amigovia says it is me, open the door, I forgot my son`s epilepsy medication. I had yanked the rubber off and was clutching it in my hand.

I opened the door nice and wide, naked with a woody. What she had neglected to mention was that her sister was with her! Startled, I dropped the condom to the floor. Now, I can't see three feet without my glasses but I would imagine the sister was quite surprised ... anyway, the amigovia came in, got the pills and left. Unfortunately, it kind of ruined my concentration and I could not give Marìa the leche she so richly deserved although I did pound away for quite a while.

This morning amigovia was mad, not cuz I had another girl but cuz I lied about the poker game. I said no no, I didn't lie; not enough guys could make it so we canceled it and then an old friend called and we ended up in bed. Plus I said well you said you would fuck me twice a day every day and yesterday you only fucked me once so what else could I do? She said well now you won't have any leche left for me. Thus I had to prove otherwise, at which point all was forgiven.

Side notes: Clubs were very dead as has been noted is the case on Saturdays. Plenty of chicas in Hook's and hardly any guys. Ness was full of dogs. I got a nice Paraguayan's phone number in Catto's for later use. Around 2 AM I had coffee in Exedra and there were none there I could have fucked for round 5, maybe a few I could have fucked if I were more drunk or more horny but mostly dogs. All were chain smoking. Also there is a bar on my way home, Iberia Bar at Avenida de Mayo and Salta, that had about 20 hookers in it, 100% dogs that even a Dickhead would not do.

A very thorough and somewhat dangerous level of fatigue is setting in. I must regroup and muster up the chops to preview monger Slash's vacation selection. That is my next mission.

Maddur

07-13-03, 16:16

Amigos,
All in all, another great trip for me. I have no new info to add, however I will post a report once I get back to US. Last night I called Dickhead from a restaurant and he narrated the story in the next post (this can only happen to DickHead!). Naturally I was laughing so hard, the waiter stopped to ask me if everything was ok. I replied to him that my mother in law just passed away and he was laughing his ass off for quite a while!

Hysteromania

07-13-03, 20:11

Cap B and DH, you guys stories made laugh my ass off. I guess it was good I got out of there earlier. Sorry I could not post before but problems with dial up carrier and also firewall at work.

My last night in BA was a girl Camila from Hooks. We agreed to meet at 6p and she said she would stay with me throughout the evening until 11p if I bought 2 drinks later. So I took her out to dinner and then went back to the hotel to change and get ready for the opera- $24 USD for 2 tickets, how could I not indulge. ;) After I jump in the bath, she decides to not get in because we will be late and instead bathes me. That killed me. Then she led me in my oversize towel with a growing bulge in the middle to the bed where she proceeded to BBBJ. Blew my load and dressed in an extreme hurry getting there 15 minutes late. Afterwards, kept my promise and took her to work at Hooks by mdnight and bought her 2 drinks. Took her back for a roll in the sack but she was not as good as the BBBJ. Maybe after the deep soak in the tub and finishing by CIM, I was so relaxed that sex was no longer important. I went through the motions anyways all though at 2am I just wanted to sleep. Walked her back to Hooks and gave her 120p as well. Really nice girl who kept me company and best of all, let me kick her out nicely. Very affectionate and kept trying to arrange time to come back after Hooks and spend the day together. Would have been okay except she got too clingy with saying things like "just hold me" afterwards. Also was so wet that willy kept slipping off. Scared about something happening so I said better to finish quickly. Still, I would recommend her, although if I were to go again with her, she would think it would mean something and I am not that much of a dickhead......yet! ;)

Dboy

07-13-03, 22:41

Maddur,

<<100 to 150 pesos short term from Madahos, Affaire, Closer, Sodoma, Playwoman and Solid Gold>>

Are you really getting Madaho's chicas for 100 pesos? Are they the regular (HOT) girls, or have you lowered your standards. I remember hanging out with you in Nov or Dec. You were sort of going for the hottest.

From the posts on this board, it seems like the exchange rate has made things more expensive, AND the cost of a short visit has increased, AND the time of a short visit has decreased!

In November and December, I was with 17 chicas, short time, 1.5-2 hours, 150 Pesos ($43).

Can anybody list some average prices, times, these days?

Jaimito Cartero

07-14-03, 04:37

Hystero - What's the description of Camila? I hung around Hook a lot, and was generally impressed with girls. Nationality? There were a fair amount of Domincanas, Cubanas and Paraguayanas in there.

MeGustaBoliches

07-14-03, 08:53

From the posts on this board, it seems like the exchange rate has made things more expensive, AND the cost of a short visit has increased, AND the time of a short visit has decreased!

In November and December, I was with 17 chicas, short time, 1.5-2 hours, 150 Pesos ($43).

Can anybody list some average prices, times, these days? [/i][/QUOTE]

I just returned from a one month visit to BA, my 10th trip in two years. For girls from clubs, including Madahos, Playwomen, Cicero (Afairre), Cutty Sark and Cattos, I paid between 150-200pesos on plus drinks. 150 was the price I paid most often. Girls quoted this price for a short time visit of one hour...but I never had a girl stay for less than 1.5 hours, and some stayed the night...so I suppose average length of stay was closer to 4 hours....but this is highly individualized. I had a nice apartment, offered the girls wine or champagne...put on some music....lit candles...etc....I did not find a single girl from a club who would go with me for 100pesos for a first date...second time, si....

I also had great luck with chicas from Clarin and LaNacion, with prices ranging from 40-80pesos for a short time....in the case of Clarin girls, short term meant an hour and they were less flexible with their time....this is so because they worked for an agency and had to report back...but at 40 pesos who could complain?

Very hit or miss, but I checked out Excedra cafe late on numerous occasions and took home some very nice chicas, plucked from the midst of some horrendous looking, hardened vets who should have retired some years ago....

The exchange rate fluctuated only slightly from 2.73 to 2.78 during my most recent stay...I have been in BA when the rate was 1 to 1 (very expensive) and when it was 3.97 to one (paradise!)....so whether BA is expensive or not depends upon ones perspective.

There have been reports of a decline in quality....I think it is fairer to say that there has been turnover....some of the previous stars have moved elsewhere, but they have been replaced by a number of promising rookies called up from the farm teams.....In short, I found no shortage of very attractive girls, some of whom were just starting down the path of degredation....glad to say I could share the camino with em.....

Jak

07-14-03, 12:51

MeGusta -

I´ve been down here a little over a month. I was originally asking for quotes from the girls for 200 pesos for two hours since I like a little more time. I guess I´m a slow learner at times. I began to realize that if my initial negotiation with a chica (even after 3 o´clock) for two hours for 200 pesos didn´t work out at times, my "short time" requests for 150 pesos (and yes, I had two short times that left after 3:00 for 100 pesos, and one of them stayed until the afternoon) always seemed to work out. The chicas seem to be pretty flexible and unpredictable with how much time they will spend with you. Like you, I have a pretty nice apartment, I share champagne, play music and light candles. It´amazing how many chicas just roll over and go to sleep afterwards, almost always ready for a good workout in the morning. Since a chica is new, I never really know if I´m going to like her that much, so I´ve come to prefer the "short time" for 150 pesos. It´s less expensive, and it really doesn´t end up being that much different timewise with the vast majority of chicas. Besides, if I don´t like them that much, I can always politely kick them out by saying that the hour is up, and I come off paying a lower rate for them then if I had negotiated for two hours.
I´ve come to see very clearly that the first meeting in B.A. is the most business-like. If she likes you (and treating them with some romance helps a lot), "almost anything" is possible
the second and... And most any chica will leave with you for a "short time" (especially after 3:00) for 150 pesos.

Mickey Mouse

07-14-03, 13:11

Me Gusta,

JAK is accurate in what he says. In 12 days I payed between 150 - 300 pesos for TLN (8- 15 hrs, my preference). I also found that if you take your time & get to know them, collecting phone #'s and inexpensive quality encounters are the norm. As for my personal taste: JAK, Elvis, Jaimito & Exon can chime in on that!

Hysteromania

07-14-03, 23:28

Camila at Hooks is from BA, surprisingly enough. She is not a real looker and 26 years old, however she is tall and has a good heart. She is 5'6'' which in Hooks is considered a basketball player. ;) I was smoking a Cuban cigar (thanks Capitan B!) which kept going out. 3 girls fiddled with lighters and matches and one almost burned my eyebrow, however Camila calmly took it in her hand, lighted it and puffed it for me all the while. Smoked it like a lady would. Also no groping in the club or coming on too strong and never a mention about money which was a welcome sign. Talked about other stuff like life in general, sports, etc. instead which is better than the 8th or 9th girl in the same bar talking about how she only has eyes for you, is going rock your world, etc. etc. Glad when we talked the next day just to hang out before she went to work, again with no talk about sex. I guess she just wants a boyfriend.

She has only been there for 3 weeks and gone out twice so I am told and doing this more to help her mom pay the mortgage as they have a big house. Biggest problem for me is similar to Dickhead's. I try to be a gentleman and end up being an A--hole. Tried to treat her right with getting dolled up for night out at dinner and opera and then still ended up having to dump her by leaving my hotel room otherwise she would not go. I wanted the pure girlfriend experience with no rush or monetary considerations and got it but then preferred to end it. Going back to Hooks after having her was the worst mistake as you can only wish for a new girl to try out this time. I was talking to her but checking out the butts in the mirror! And when she went to the bathroom, how could I be rude and not talk to the girl passing by who say hola. ;) So be careful what you wish for, you just might get it! Email me and I will send you a pic if you want.

Alas, be careful of the Margarita Effect- after a few days in the sun and a steady stream of tropical drinks, some folks' common sense goes back home before they do, leaving them defenseless when the hustlers show up!

At least it is winter in BA and you can enjoy more action too. Although I do not think sex is the best ever there, I do think it is the best value. Go while you can or else regret it, but as others said, take the comments of us posters simply for informational purposes and formulate your own opinions. BA is difficult and sometimes expensive to get to. Flights seem to always be booked and the peso continually rides higher. 200 pesos seems to be the most common quote, even at Hooks! Estilo used to be 75 for 20 minutes, now it is minimum 100 for 30 minutes. Since I went 2 months ago, prices have indeed gone up and there is less talent than before, but there is still lots and lots of chicas! :) :) :)

Hysteromania

07-15-03, 00:57

Just came to my attention that there is a "new" escort website in Buenos Aires called Paraiso Prohibido. Anybody have any luck with them? Seems the girls are better looking than platynum for example. What is most interesting is that many show their faces!!

http://www.paraisoprohibido.com/main.htm

Bandy

07-15-03, 02:16

hysteromania:

Met a monger in my last trip. He just had a session with Barbara from this agency on that afternoon. He described Barbara as a Playboy model, which knowing him, I will take with a little grain of salt. However, he was charged 400 Peso for a little over 2 hour incall session. I think he overpaid. He is a newbie and it showed. By the way, the agency is also listed under the Argentina link section.

Bandy

Elvis

07-15-03, 02:58

hysteromania,

The same girls from that website can also be found in Platynum.

My favorite is Alexia, she's incredible. Only 100 pesos.

Leo

07-15-03, 03:13

Wow, 8 pages of posts in since my last ability to read the BA thread (ah, two weeks plus in Cali!).

Most of the responses to DWC were not warranted IMO. The guy provided valuable info on a number of internet girls, and drew an accurate conclussion. Anyone who says there is equal quality in equal quantity in BA girls same as what was available 2-5 years ago is lying. No one is saying you can't find a hottie, or there aren't nice girls, or it's not worth it... read the words. BA of course has many high qualities, but if you think you're going to bang a girl (hell, pay to date and share time with a gril) that looks like the model you see in a magazine or on t.v., you are wrong, imho.

-Slash-
I was with Biby on my last trip (May?). She looks quite the same as in platynum pix, but a little more simple (girl next door). She looks very little of her photos in Area-VIP. I found her of average GFE (maybe a trip to Cancun would provide different treatment) - nothing bad but nothing amazing. She did seem to be a little of a player, and she lied to me about her having a manager and bailed on me a little earlier than we negotiated. She may have a child, I can't remember... she definitely smoked cigs.

I will post a Cali report in the next couple of days, for those that want to draw comparisons.

Slash

07-15-03, 07:36

Leo;

Thanks for the post on Biby. Is there any web Chica that you really liked? Please keep in mind that I like petite girls. Thanks again!!!

Grshel1

07-15-03, 11:11

Buenos Aires – Departure Adventures

My departure for BA started off with a horror story only Steven King could imagine. My friend was going to take me to the airport at 5:30 AM (operative words are in the past tense). The appointed hour came and nobody darkened my doorway. Fifteen mintues later, enroute to the airport, alone in my car Dan wakes up and calls my cell phone. At least drving myself worked. Alas, the check in lines were long but not near as long as the security check lines were. Absolutely, the longest security lines I have ever seen in Louisville, Kentucky.
Finally, on the airplane ready to depart. Almost ready that is. The ground crew announces they need three people to volunteer to be bumped. Now twenty years in the Army taught me to never volunteer. Rationale thinking leaped forward and I bellowed from the swine and swill section in the very back of the plane. I knew there was another flight that would get me to Miami with time to spare....why not take the compensation for waiting in Louisville versus Miami? While the ticket agent is preparing the 200 dollar voucher I casually asked if I could be upgraded to first class for the remainer of my trip to BA. She smiled and handed me the voucher. Just before boarding the lovely ticket agent called me aside and handed me first class boarding passes for the rest of my trip. LIFE IS GOOD. I will be sending a letter to the airlines complimenting this ticket agent for her professionalism and making the flight that much easier.

DAY ONE
The driver was at EZE to wisk me away to the comfortable confines of an apartment at Art Suites. The first order of business, after checking in, was to call Roxanna and verify my e-mailed requests for afternoon appointments. I decicded to forgo an afternooner on the first day in favor of a leisure time at Colmegna Spa. A wise decision to relax a travel worn body and to savor the pleasure of a full hour long professional massage. Life is good.
A stop at Orleans Cafe was next on the agenda. Alas, a lot of the same faces in the same places, but the ¨Queen of the Orleans¨ has moved her seat closer to the bar. While enjoying a chopps of Quilmes two brand new ladies come in and sit close to the bar. At first I was not real sure they were working girls. One is the first true spinner I have seen in BA.
After lots of conversation, the spinner spoke limited English the other none, we agree on 100 dollars for a dupla, time no problem. A short cab ride with lots of touchy feely going on we arrive at Art Suites. The non-English speaker wants her money now. Nope...afterwards. Then they announce that it is one hundred each. I scanned the two ladies, thought about the situation, and did the only thing a good monger could. I reached into my pocket, took out a ten peso note, and pushed them both out the door. We had negotiated the price, and I was not in the mood to do it again.
A nap was in order and the body did appreciated my kind consideration. Later at Checkers having a beer before Madahos got started I ran into a nice looking lady. She agreed to 150 pesos but no pictures. The monger in me agreed, the photographer in me was not able to overcome the horny monger. In bed she was nothing to write home about so I will not bore you with details. I did not even bother to write her name down.
LIFE IS WONDERFUL

OttoGraham

07-15-03, 12:28

Grshel, shoot me an email at my handle at hot mail. I was in Louisville myself not too long ago, the line was crazy, absolutely crazy.

Where are you staying?

-Uncle Otto

Dickhead

07-15-03, 12:31

Originally posted by Leo

-Slash-
I was with Biby on my last trip (May?). She looks quite the same as in platynum pix, but a little more simple (girl next door). She looks very little of her photos in Area-VIP. I found her of average GFE (maybe a trip to Cancun would provide different treatment) - nothing bad but nothing amazing. She did seem to be a little of a player, and she lied to me about her having a manager and bailed on me a little earlier than we negotiated. She may have a child, I can't remember... she definitely smoked cigs.

Her profile on escortsbaires says she does NOT smoke. I will let you know later today ...

DH

Exon123

07-15-03, 13:00

If Micky Mouse is my friend from up state New York I will state that he is truly a Mongers Monger --- Not only did he pay less than anyone I met on my last trip but his real problem was getting them too leave so he could rest up for the next days conquests --- The man can screw -- It got to the point that he would not go to Affaire for fear of meating up with Roxie, (he did her three times), so as not to break her heart --- I can only find one real true problem with Buenos Aires --- Its a simple one --- Its that Im here and Buenos Aires is there --- God I hope I can go back soon --- I hate work --- Exon

Mickey Mouse

07-15-03, 14:22

Yes, it's me Exon, hope all is well!
My findings after 12 days were:

-The "Best Bang for the Buck" (for me anyway) was from the clubs especially Hook's and Catto's. I had No luck in Black's (too expensive and wouldn't chat), but Ciceron (thanx JAK for getting her off my back), Madaho's, Ness, Playwoman & 2 others went well for me.

-The newspapers: May be the cheapest, but I guess you get what you pay for.

-Internet: Had a couple great experiences with very beautiful ladies, but they were at the High-End of the pay scale( 250 - 300).
-An additional note: I did not pay more than 120 peso for 1 - 2 hr meetings during the afternoons; once again, take your time, get to know them and getting phone numbers for Class A encounters is a breeze.

What sets these Argentinian women apart is that many of them are looking for that "BFE" experience; and in my book, there is nothing wrong with that.

OttoGraham

07-15-03, 16:30

Originally posted by Exon123
It got to the point that he would not go to Affaire for fear of meating up with Roxie, (he did her three times), so as not to break her heart --- I can only find one real true problem with Buenos Aires --- Its a simple one --- Its that Im here and Buenos Aires is there --- God I hope I can go back soon --- I hate work --- Exon

Roxie is certainly worth doing three times, IMHO! :D

I share your problem, Exon......

-Uncle Otto

Jak

07-15-03, 16:47

Three cheers for Roxie. I did her again about four nights ago. Her face is nothing special, but her body and attitude make her memorable. She loves to dance, and she tried to teach me some tango moves. I prefer to sit and just watch her dance.
I like GFE´s, but sometimes I just enjoy a sex machine. Roxie delivers with her "come on, let´s get it on" attitude.

BA_Robert

07-15-03, 21:42

hysteromania:

The website you mention (http://www.paraisoprohibido.com/main.htm ) has been around for at least two years. As menition below its the same girls as on other websites. Here are some other interesting links:

http://www.newshampoo.com.ar/
http://www.madahos.com/home_e.html
http://www.blackbuenosaires.com/

http://www.argenvip.com/
http://www.area-vip.com.ar/
http://www.divinasonline.com/
http://www.escorts-argentina.com/
http://www.fiestax.com/
http://www.legalmentebellas.com.ar/
http://www.bonnefemme.com.ar/
http://www.infiernobaires.com/
http://www.latinnites.com/
http://www.lolasylolitas.com.ar/
http://www.paraisoterrenal.com/
http://www.escortsargentina.com/Entretenimiento/EntretenimientoSpanish.htm
http://www.sensualbaires.com/
http://www.sensualplanet.com/
http://www.sex59.com.ar/
http://www.tramps.com.ar/
http://www.trampitas.com/
http://www.trylenium.com
http://www.chicasespeciales.com.ar/
http://www.argentinaerotica.com.ar/
http://www.escortsbaires.com.ar/
http://www.buenosairesintimo.com/Acompanantes.htm
http://www.bellasprohibidas.com.ar/index1.htm
http://www.chicasvips.com.ar/
http://www.cieloprivate.com.ar/
http://www.fantasyclub.com.ar/
http://www.imaginatelo.com.ar/index2.html
http://www.liv.com.ar/
http://placeresvip.ar11.toservers.com/
http://www.escortslatinas.com/
http://www.polvosmagicos.com.ar/HOME.htm
http://ar.dir.yahoo.com/economia_y_negocios/productos_y_servicios_para_el_consumidor/sexo/servicios_para_adultos/Acompanantes/

Dickhead

07-15-03, 21:47

I am pretty sure that Biby of escortsbaires does NOT smoke. I just did her in her apartment and I am very sensitive to that. But she is not that great. Her real name is Carolina and she is 23. Doesn't allow much.

If anybody else has any chicas they want me to road test, just let me know: hot mail is richardhead41. I am just the man for the job.

FatBastard

07-16-03, 00:42

HI,any information on flight fares to eze would be appreciated. Thanks

Hysteromania

07-16-03, 00:47

Originally posted by BA_Robert
hysteromania:

The website you mention (http://www.paraisoprohibido.com/main.htm ) has been around for at least two years. As menition below its the same girls as on other websites. Here are some other interesting links:

I imagined the website had been around. A friend in BA pointed it out to me after I left (that didn't help me much!) but thought I would share it with the board. Your post however is invaluable as we now have what appears to be ALL of the Internet girls in one place for researching. Thanks!

Now going back to the talent drain of chicas in BA and less bang for the buck (he he). There are 2 sides of the argument to be understood about talent decline in BA. Like most opportunities, once a place gets exploited, things change. Talk to others about how things have changed in Bangkok, whereas you had more girls who would go long time and now girls ask for more money and prefer short time.

In BA, I think a lot of girls have moved on- either to new places (alot of Argentine girls working it now in Europe for instance) or with some initial recover in the economy, have found regular jobs again. However as others noted, the farm teams are bringing in new chicas as there appear to be more amateurs, albeit the Internet girls still seem to be the same. :( The amateurs are coming down from Paraguay (which has seemed to always have its inflow to downtown places like Hooks) and then you have young girls from the countryside like Missiones, Tucuman or Mendoza areas. This is where I have stumbled upon some of the prized jewels as the girls I have met from BA involved in this (there are a few but most prefer to not do this or think they can charge more because they are doing you a favor). I prefer the girls from other cities as they appear less snobby and seem more concerned about pleasing you. Not to mention, they are many blondes from the north of Argentina around Iguazu! They have found out they can make say 100-400 pesos a night just by jouncing you which is a fortune to them as that could be their salary as a waitress for say, 3 weeks back home.

But all this being said, I would still prefer to be a jaded habitue in boliches in BA then have to put up with the mindgames, fussiness and $$$ needed just to simply date American women back home.

Leo

07-16-03, 01:12

Sorry, i can't say any of the internet girls are worthy of such a trip. I mean, I am very picky, and I live in Miami - so I am around the most beauitiful latinas most nights (around them, not scoring them...).

A year ago I may have answered differently, but in my last two trips, I did not encounter any girl that blew me away.

Sorry I can't help more.

I know that girls like Lizy, Sandra, and a couple others have great reviews in past posts. I do agree regarding Sandra, although don't know if she's available. I was less impressed with Lizy.

Ah, I could recommend Barbie, the bartender of Periplo. She's on the program selectively. But she doesn't have a profile on any of the sites.

Grshel1

07-16-03, 10:58

BA – Day 2 - Mercy

Let me start this with a sincere God bless Roxanna.
Early this morning I was able to do the little shopping planned for this trip. I always like to take care of that business as soon as possible when traveling. A call to Roxanna confirmed my four o´clock appointment with Abril. I had given Roxanna three names and a wide range of times to insure success...hers and mine.
Abril arrived a few minutes late, but had called to say she was running late. I offered her a glass of champagne from a bottle of Chandon that I had started without her. We sat at the dining table and shared two glasses of bubbly and some great conversation. I was about to wear the pages out on my translation booklet, but we were able to communicate very nicely.
On more than one report we have been warned that the girls do not always appear as they do in their photos on the agency boards. Well, Abril is no exception. Her pictures do not do her justice. She is actually far more lovely in real life than her pictures began to depict. First, she is a very petite lady...except for two wonderful breasts that are amplified by her tiny waist and fabulous little round butt. Abril is a beautiful lady.
I have mongered on every continent except Africa. I have mongered in 15 countries, and in over 50 cities. Abril is without a doubt the finest I have ever experienced. You want attitude? She is a ten. You want a true GFE? She is a ten. You want DFK? She is a ten. DATY? A ten. Multiple positons? Ten. BBBJ? Ten again.
Abril definitely enjoyed the DATY, obviously I am very skilled in this activity...perhaps it was slightly enhanced by the Vigel. I do believe she had more than one orgasm while I nibbled, licked, sucked and tongue bathed her delicate labia and clit. I must say, to me, she had the perfect pussy to eat. Nicely shaved, no odor, no hanging lips, and, oh, so wet so quickly. It has been awhile since I had a working lady grab my head, pull me in tighter, and moan, ¨Don´t stop. Don´t stop.¨
We changed to a traditional woman on top 69 position. Abril eagerly returned my bareback oral favors. My fingers danced over, around and in her twin pleasure ports. Her BBBJ made it hard (all puns intended) to concentrate on pleasing her. I did not count the various positions we engaged in during penetration. I do remember finishing in missionary as she tongued my ear. Afterwards we cuddled and stroked each other for some time....even had another glass of champagne. The one hour session lasted two hours!!
Life is good. BA is fantastic.
Last night I stopped in Madahos. At 11:30 the place was packed, only about a dozen mongers. I think ever lady I have talked to or taken out of Madahos was persent. Each made a point to come talk to me and eventually ask for a drink. I did buy Silvina (see June trip report) a drink. Silvina was a wonderful, cute, 23 year old three holer from last trip. I will call her later this week.

Jaimito Cartero

07-16-03, 13:54

GrShel1 - Was Abril from an internet site? I'm not sure if you talked about her in an earlier post. I didn't see a reference.

Nice move on kicking those two girls out the other day. It's a shame that so many of them try the bait and switch, or the "change the pesos to dollar" type thing.

I'm sure there are a lot of stupid guys who will end up and pay for it. I would kick them out with no taxi money for this type of scam. For normal girls who want money upfront (at the negotiated price), I would give them taxi money.

I'm with you Jaimito. Drag them by their hair out the front door and toss them out onto the sidewalk. The only thing I'd do differently is give up the 5 pesos for the taxi. I find that this reduces the streat theater and encourages them to leave the neighborhood immediately.

Jackson

DownBA

07-16-03, 15:12

Gershel, WAY TO GO with Abril...I've been lusting after that one ever since I saw her pics in escortsbaires.com and have made her one of my top priorities my next trip to BA...it's great to hear she's as good a GFE as she looks in the pics....one question though: do you think those awesome breasts are re-engineered at all or are they as amazing as they look? DownBA

Maddur

07-16-03, 22:26

DBoy,
Nice to hear from you again. The Madahos girls usually go for 150 pesos. However at the other places you can get them for 100 p (YMMV). I never paid more than 150 p for ST. I turned down 3 hot chicas as they would not budge from US$ 200!

Grshel1

07-17-03, 11:11

BA – Day Three – Lots of small change

First, to answer the question about Abril´s endowment. They are slightly the result of better living through chemistry. However, they are the most natural feeling and reacting augmented breasts I have ever encountered.

I found the mother load. Yes, all the small peso notes are in a bank in the middle of Ricoleta. I was dumbfounded as the Rio Bank ATM spit out my 700 peso withdrawal in ten peso notes. The bank was more than willing to buy back all that I wanted to get rid of at the time. I do have enough small peso notes to last the rest of this trip.
Alas, I am going to commit the near cardinal sin. Seeing the same chica twice. Actually, going to Silvina from my June trip tomorrow and Abril on Friday evening for dinner and dessert. We are planning dinner at Plaza Mayor followed by dessert at my apartment.
After being overwhelmed with ten peso notes yesterday, I stopped at the local internet cafe to check my e-mail, the boards, and of course post my update to the trip report.
The afternoon and evening were spent with Libia from Argentinaprivate. She speaks excellent English that she claimed to have learned from CNN International. Regardless of how she learned, her English is excellent by any standards. She is a very thin young lady whose beauty grows on you with good conversation and a very open personality. We shared champagne and company for some time before heading to the bedroom. Her bedroom skills are equal to her command of the English language. BBBJ, DFK, loved the DATY (again with a touch of Vigel and no I do not own stock in Vigel...yet). Afterwards I asked her to join me for an early dinner at Lola´s. She agreed and we were off to dinner. Lola´s was devoid of other dinner´s at the early hour and we enjoyed a leisurely dining experience. I was surprised she ordered rather conservatively from the ala carte menu...but it was her choice. After dinner she was off to her job....at Black´s. The fact she works there but is well within the monger´s price range from Roxanne´s call surprised me. You can see her photos on argentinaprivate. I did not take any myself. To busy talking in English.
Life is good. BA is wonderful.

OttoGraham

07-17-03, 11:42

Grshel is proving through his posts what I knew from personal observation - he's a monger's monger who knows how to have a good time. And a class act, to boot! You go get 'em Grshel, I wish I was able to come down and join you this weekend!

-Uncle Otto

Traveler0099

07-17-03, 23:08

Living full time in BA

Having reached a point in life where such a thing looks pretty good, I wonder if anyone has put together an annual budget that includes housing, food, utilities, (no car), 2-3X a week entertainment, etc etc.

I am really not sure of what this all might cost, but would sure like to know. Any mongers out there who have done the math and would care to share?

Thanks.

Trav

Hi Trav,

I didn't get scientific about analyzing the numbers, but I can tell you that it costs me approximately $30k per year for chicas, and another $30k per year for my apartment, utilities, airfare, restaurants every day, ground transportation, etc.

Of course, you have to remember that I live in a premium building in the premium section of town, and that I'm maintaining a part-time girlfriend and still doing the Madahos / Play Women / Cicerone circuit several nights a week, plus the occasional daytime appointment...

Anyway, you get the idea, which is that one could live and party in BA for a lot less that what I'm paying.

Jackson

Andres

07-17-03, 23:40

Traveler0099:

To give you an idea, three years ago, with a salary of ar$1700-2000, I could pay my bills and have aside at least ar$400 for mongering (I never had to pay rent, though).

If you are single and accept to live in a 2 bedroom apartment in Palermo, you should spend around ar$800-ar$1000 a month in rent, utilities, food and transportation (I mean "ordinary porteño" transportation, that is, bus and subway).

Rent should be between ar$400 and ar$1000, depending location, space and amenities.

Food should cost you ar$300 per month, provided that you dinner out only once a week and that you cope with grocery and cooking.

Utilities should be ar$100 per month, proivided that youuse them sparingly (no a lot of phone calls, even local calls are charged, since the bill can add up to ar$100 a month VERY easily).

Hope this helps,

Andres

MeGustaBoliches

07-18-03, 07:53

Traveler0099:

Here are my monthly expenses ( I live well!...I could get by for half this amount by living in a less expensive barrio such as Congresso or even a less exclusive area of REcoleta, Palermo or Belgrano...taking only public transport...eating out less often...forgoing a maid....etc....

Rent (2bedroom apartment, new building in Recoleta with gym,pool, party room, sauna & 24 hour security) and utilities (includes phone and cable, but not internet access): $US 585....

Maid.5-6pesos per hour. I pay US 90 per month for 60plus hours. She does my shopping and laundry as well as cleaning.

Transportation...70centavos for Subte, average of 80centavos for bus (collectivo) and 1.28Pesos minimum for cab (average fare within the same barrio 2.5-3pesos, 6 pesos between neighboring barrios such as Recoleta to Palermon,8-9pesos from Recoleta to Belgrano). ...about US 125 (I use more taxis than busses)

Laundry & cleaning. Coin op laundry...1-2pesos per load...dry cleaner...2 pesos for a shirt, 4 for pants, 10 for a suit). $US 40

Food. meal in a nice restaurant, 40pesos on average. lunch, taking advantage of daily specials, 10-15pesos. Breakfast of coffee and medialunas..4-5pesos. fresh baked bread...2pesosper kilo in a bake shop. I spend about $US400, including my meals in restaurants and groceries/cleaning supplies at the market...

RX. Viagra $US7 per 100mg.tablet. I cut mine in half, $US28

Vacations within Argentina.....within Argentina...4days/3nights to Calafate...US 275pp, double occupancy. to Iguazu...US280pp, double occupancy....4 star hotels. These are the actual prices I have spent this year.....add Buqebus ticket on the slow boat to Colonia every 90 days to have your Argentina tourist stamp renewed...about 50pesos (much easier than obtaining a visa from Argentina for longer stays).

Chicas....one trip per week to pick up a chica in a boliche....150pesos for the chica and 75pesos for drinks....225per week or 1000pesos per mo....one chica per week from Clarin or LaNacion....80pesos or an additional 320 per mo....$US500.

Entertainment....movies (mon. thru wed...5 pesos), figure 200-300 pesos per trip for a night at the casino....10-50 pesos for the theater/opera...etc....I spend $US250 amusing myself.

Internet...2pesos per hour at locutorios...I usually spend $US10-15 per month....

total per month, including clothes and other small items not itemized here....about $2,500 per month, excluding trips back/forth to US....

Hope this helps! Again, keep in mind if you need a tighter budget....it is possible to live for 50% of my expenses...or, as Jackson notes, it is possible to spend much more.! I would estimate that my spending qualifies me as "upper", but not "upper-upper" class by Argentina standards.

Thomaso276

07-18-03, 11:29

Megustab:

Can you email me contact info for your maid. I am afraid I am overpaying for one right now (4 hours weekly for 35 pesos) but she was sent over by the landlord and because of time restraints I needed a maid.

Thanks,

thomaso275@yahoo.com

I pay my maid $6.00AR per hour, plus another $4.00AR for the bus. However, she has a 4 hour minimum, which is typical, so I end up paying her $28.00AR twice a week. I started her out at $5.00AR per hour, but after a couple of months seeing how hard she workes for the money, I decided I could afford the raise. Each visit, she goes grocery shopping, restocks the refrig, delivers my laundry and dry cleaning, and of course cleans the apartment.

Jackson

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Dickhead

07-18-03, 12:14

Using a fully Dickhead methodology, I am budgeting $1350 US per month for 2 room apartment in non-exclusive neighborhood, groceries (doing my own cooking and dinner out once a week), public transportation, laundry, gym fees, an hour of internet use per day, 3-4 liters of Brahma per day, and 2 mongering sessions per week at 100 pesos per session. If I pay 150 for Antonela at Nuevo Estilo, then I must offset this by either paying María 80 pesos and foregoing my weekly dinner out, or by screwing my back up amigovia who only expects dinner, some gifts, and to take taxis instead of the bus.

Grshel1

07-18-03, 13:02

BA – Day Four – All is web

Day four was a kicked back and rest sort of day. I keep telling folks that naps are seriously under rated. A couple of activities included meeting David1967 who has been here since late June. He has fallen in love with Argentina as most of us do after one visit. If I recall correctly this is his fourth trip to BA...this year. My kind of man. OH, this is only my third trip here this year.
I was a bit worried when I first went into the Orleans Cafe this afternoon. The Queen of Orleans was missing. I mentioned it several times in my conversation with David. Fate was not to be outdone. In walks the Queen and after the requisite kissing of her court, she took her seat in the far back corner of the Cafe Orleans. All is well and the Earth will continue to rotate.
My afternoon appointment arrived at four o´clock sharp. A very pleasent surprise in BA. Silvina and I enjoyed a bottle of Chandon and talked for over an hour and a half. She made sure I understood that time was no problem this afternoon. Four hours later and another bottle of champagne, we were both feeling wonderful, a bit high, and everything was wonderful. The sex was as good or even better than with Abril. I know I gave Abril tens across the board, but Silvina pushed the bar even higher for future ladies to achieve the ultimate ten rating. Silvina finishes her studies in a month and plans to leave the program. Alas, a loss for mongers in BA.
We made plans to go to the casino and dinner on Sunday, which is her day off. Silvina must have told me ten times that Sunday I do not pay her for anything. It is her day off and we are going to go have fun and enjoy each other´s company. Sounds good to me.
I may be a failure at the true mongering intent of my visit to BA, but last night I stayed at home. Four hours with the lovely Silvina, two bottles of champagne, I doubt that I would have been able to scare a mouse should I have gone out looking.
Oh, I did book my trip to Rio yesterday...three weeks there should be sufficient to see and do most of what I want to do and see.
YES....Life is good. Naw....Life is wonderful.

DoctorAmor

07-19-03, 01:40

Perhaps you more experienced mongers of BA can help. I travel there each year with the family. I am able to escape for a few hours in the afternoon / early evening for other pursuits. I typically go to Orleans, but I don't always find what I like, and it is typically more expensive, especially when you factor in the room at Horizonte. Any better suggestions? Do you think Roxanne could help me out?

Traveler0099

07-19-03, 01:58

Many thanks to Jackson (hope the seminars went well this year). MeGustaBoliches, Andres, and Dickhead for your cost estimates.

Seems like we run the gamut from about $12,000 USD per year to as much as $60k.

I think I might contact Roxana who may be able to give me some idea of rents in Recoleta or other similar neighborhoods.

What I am most concerned about is companionship, not only purchased females, but non-pros or even guys to tallk to. As well as being so isolated from what is happening back home.

I would plan to hire a Spanish teacher but that is a minimal expense.

What is the health care system like? Anyone got an idea on that?

Maybe I should think about a month in BA as a test drive ...

Thanks again for all the food for thought.

Trav

Traveler0099

07-19-03, 02:14

Eastern European Women....?

I have a thing for EE girls. I just noticed that a Russian girl is advertising on Area-Vip.

What is the situation in BA with Russians, Czech, Ukranians, etc?

Any to be found? If so, where?

Just wondering.

Trav

OutoftheGame

07-19-03, 04:16

Trav,

I know of at least 1 Russina girl that works at Blacks. Sorry don't know her name my buddy was talking to her. But I also know that many girls have parents that will be from Spain or Germany. Remember Argentina is similar to the US in that we have grandparents or great grandparents that traveled across the Atlantic to come here. So many of the women have a European look to them.

MeGustaBoliches

07-19-03, 08:06

Trav says:

"Many thanks to Jackson (hope the seminars went well this year). MeGustaBoliches, Andres, and Dickhead for your cost estimates.

Seems like we run the gamut from about $12,000 USD per year to as much as $60k.

I think I might contact Roxana who may be able to give me some idea of rents in Recoleta or other similar neighborhoods.
What I am most concerned about is companionship, not only purchased females, but non-pros or even guys to tallk to. As well as being so isolated from what is happening back home.

I would plan to hire a Spanish teacher but that is a minimal expense.

What is the health care system like? Anyone got an idea on that?

Maybe I should think about a month in BA as a test drive ...

Thanks again for all the food for thought.

Trav"

My reactions....

The one month trial run is a good idea.

Mayra can also help give you a better idea of rental prices. Check out www.clarin.com or www.lanacion.com as well.

Sales and rental prices are going up, and stand at about 70% of the precrisis price at present. So now is a good time to lease/buy.

Health care is generally quite good. For routine care, CEMIC offers English speaking docs. Several hospitals work well with English speakers.

Internet keeps you in touch with what is happening at home....cnn international is not the same as cnn at home, more like cnn Brit...but at least it is in English and does carry some US news....Guys from this board are in BA often, so male companionship is not an issue.

Finding local females? Depends on your age, but women in BA are available if you know where to look and are willing to take your time to develop a relationship....as has been pointed out, relationships with pros often evolve to something more than a pro-client relationship as well....

FWIW, re:being out of touch with happenings in the US...after about a month in BA I quit caring who was on top of the American or National League standings....RE:our government, it is fascinating to listen to the take of Argentinos on US policy....we are clueless sometimes about how we are viewed in the world....

enough of this....if you start to get homesick, a quick trip to a Boliche will help get you through the night....good luck (suerte!)

Andres

07-19-03, 11:03

Traveler0099:

- In the Sunday issue of Clarin or La Nacion, at the first section of "clasificados" (classified ads) you will find the "inmueles - departamentos" category (real estate - apartments). Look there for prices of rent and purchase.

- After years of economic decline, local girls don't expect as many gifts and attentions as they used to expect decades ago. Regular dating expenditures (movies, average restaurants) should be OK.

- Health care system:
* The State takes care of the poorest, but their facilities are not very upscale (though their coverage is overall better than that of Medicaid in the US).
* Most employees are members of "Obras Sociales" (cooperative medical services run by unions), some of which are good and some really suck.
* Professionals, ununionized personnel and independent people are usually members of a "Prepaga" (HMO), some of which are pretty good (OSDE, for instance).

To give you an idea, a mid 30s healthy male is charged ar$200 per month in the plan# 210 of OSDE (basic service, but covers almost any contingency and treatment in a predefined list of institutions and partial refunds for visits to outside doctors). A mid 60s professional in a very upscale prepaga (Qualitas) pays ar$700 a month (less than a basic plan at BCBS in the US but 3 times better service).

Hope this helps,

Andres

Andres

07-19-03, 11:13

Originally posted by Traveler0099
Eastern European Women....?

I have a thing for EE girls. I just noticed that a Russian girl is advertising on Area-Vip.

What is the situation in BA with Russians, Czech, Ukranians, etc?

Any to be found? If so, where?

Just wondering.

Trav
Some Russians arrived in the 90s, attracted to the easiness of getting an Argentine passport and flying to the US without need for a visa.

Some mongers reported the existence of a stunning Ukranian bartender at Shampoo (or was her a dancer?) several months ago, who was consistently hit with offers by patrons and could be picky in accepting these offers.

However, be careful about these people. I heard that they are being constanty harassed by the Russian and Chechen maffias who ask for "protection".

Hope this helps,

Andres

OttoGraham

07-19-03, 12:55

Living as an expat in Buenos Aires would be an easy thing to do, I believe. There is very little in the way of negative culture shock that you'll experience. Obviously the more Spanish you know and/or learn, the easier things will be. As for news and English-language entertainments, there is plenty, including the local English-language newspaper which is quite good (and also reports AL and NL results!). ;)

I've contemplated this myself, as I am quite envious of the setup that El Jefe Jackson has. Without delving too much into his personal life, I can say he has demonstrated that it is possible to maintain a type of U.S. business without being physically present in the States all the time.

-Uncle Otto

Exon123

07-19-03, 14:15

I too would love to move to Buenos Aires, or at the very least spend 6 or so months a year there --- Having traveled a great many capitals of the world I have found Buenos Aires to be the best --- But there could be problems --- What makes the city so enticing is the value of the dollar --- If the peso ever returns to the level of a few years ago life their would be very expensive --- That being said would anyone be interested in splitting the price of a years rent on an apartment in Recoletta --- Exon

Traveler0099

07-19-03, 20:09

Thanks you once again, gentlemen! Much to think about and I hope that the stock market starts getting a high-single digits return soon.

The health care situation is better than I expected. Great!

I notice that there is a new discussion called "Living in Argentina." Jackson, I personally would not be offended if you wanted to move these messages and replies to there, so they will be easier to find when others like me ask the same questions.

Monger on!

Trav

Hi Trav,

I tried to move the relevant report to the new section, but this thread is so big that it's size exceeded the capabilities of the forum software's capability.

Jackson

Andres

07-19-03, 20:31

Originally posted by DoctorAmor
Perhaps you more experienced mongers of BA can help. I travel there each year with the family. I am able to escape for a few hours in the afternoon / early evening for other pursuits. I typically go to Orleans, but I don't always find what I like, and it is typically more expensive, especially when you factor in the room at Horizonte. Any better suggestions? Do you think Roxanne could help me out?
Internet girls and classified ads girls are hit or miss, so nothing guaranteed on quality of service. Similarly, Orleans and Exedra may have nice girls or dogs, with no fixed regularity.

If I had to limit my action to the afternoons, I would go to Bonnefemme (near Santa Fe 2000), Santa Fe 1707, Cielo Private (Azcuenaga almost corner with Santa Fe Av) or French St. Again, no customer satisfaction guaranteed, but chances are they may serve you.

Hope this helps,

Andres

OttoGraham

07-19-03, 20:45

As usual Andres is spot-on with useful information.

I might also advise a trip to the Colmegna Spa - it's a legitimate establishment explainable to the ball-and-chain and you might even be able to slip away there more than once. Hand relief only, alas, but even so I often visit even for non-sexual massage services. I just have to be careful to tell the masseuse "Por favor, no quiero servicios especiales" so that she'll keep her pinky fingers from slipping in and "accidentally" rubbing my scrotum, ha ha ha! :D

-Uncle Otto

OttoGraham

07-19-03, 20:49

Originally posted by Traveler0099
Thanks you once again, gentlemen! Much to think about and I hope that the stock market starts getting a high-single digits return soon.

The health care situation is better than I expected. Great!

Trav, the NASDAQ is up 50% in the last 9 months. If you rode out the bear without cashing out, and continued to make regular purchases of quality mutual funds, like I did, you ought to be back to near break-even. :p

As for health care, you are certainly in no danger of getting poor-quality care (that goes for dental work, too). Obviously, you'd want to return home if something serious arises. While I would have no problem having an Argentine MD treat me for gout or the flu, I would rather have an American MD messing around with my ticker or doing surgery. Just ethnocentric bias, but there it is.

-Uncle Otto

EZE_Amante

07-20-03, 08:44

Exon123,

I have been interested in the same thing since my first trip to BA. Drop me a line at eze_amanteatmsndot com, and we can discuss details of what we're both looking for in the way of accomadations.

EZE :)

Grshel1

07-20-03, 11:40

BA – Day Five and Six.

It finally happened. It took three separate trips to Buneos Aires and almost daily stops at Orleans Cafe, but it finally happened. I saw the Queen of the Orleans actually leave with a client. It was definitely a first for me. OH, I found out that her name is Kelly. No, I was not the client, but David´s friend said her name was Kelly.

David is not to be confused with the other David. David, the first I mentioned meeting this trip is from NY. David, the second, is from California. He is here for 19 days and renting a very nice apartment that belongs to Jackson. David had fallen in lust with a little 19 year old from Orleans. Good for him. Last night we met up at Madahos and he was falling in lust with a Paraguay native...20 years old. My kind of man.

The weather has been extremely nice the last two days with temperatures climbing into the 60´s each day. An evening cloud cover has kept the evening temperatures nice also. As a matter of fact, I had to remove my sweater at Madahos because the place was so warm. However, in deference to the ladies, I am not running around half naked trying to entice so monger. I am the monger and was being enticed.

One of the waiters at Madahos, Mossel (spell?) speaks excellent English and takes good care of you. Tiping him I think helps that service. If a lady is not getting the hint to move on, a simple nod to Mossel and he ushers her away. My kind of waiter.

I did check in at Black´s for a drink each evening. The ladies are beautiful, the ladies must be going to wear out their twats pissing thru them with the prices they ask. I mean it is bad enough that a lady´s drink is 85 pesos....yes eighty five. The lowest starting price is 100 dollars and often they want to start at 200 dollars. Alas, a less than attractive blonde at Madahos wanted 100 dollars to start. This lady is tall, slender, and has the tooth arrangement that makes potential dollars dance in an orthodonists eyes. I gave her the line that we are in Argentina and talk in pesos...I added that 100 pesos would be a nice price. She retorted with 300 pesos. I looked at Mossel and within seconds she was gone.

Last night ended up taking a less than beautiful lady to the apartment. It was late, I had too many beers, she spoke good English, it was Saturday night and things were slow. Nice DFK, excellent BBBJ, but alas, no DATY. That was by mutual choice. The lady needs to learn how to use the biddet...enough said there. Took care of business, paid the lady, out the door with her and to bed with me.

Life is good.

Dickhead

07-20-03, 13:03

Another Friday, another visit to Nuevo Estilo. This time I took the bus. Met up with bilingual monger E. E had a head cold and thus chose not to partake. I did my best not to screw Antonela again. I was working hard on the blond waitress Valéria. I don't know why because she does not have much of a body but she had a peculiar quality of innocence that made me want to jizz all over her. But she said she could not leave her waitress duties. I don't really know if she is on the program or not but she says she is 'getting ready' to start dancing soon, whatever that means. Greta was pulling heavy microphone duty which has not been the case on previous visits. Monger E helpfully suggested a very tall blond with small tits but she proved to have an attitude problem. I wanted Antonela's latest dancing partner, a sexy brunette, but she disappeared before I could make my move. Then Antonela came by in her short, tight leather skirt and I was unable to help myself. As if by osmosis I found myself in the hotel with her. What I like besides the fact that the rooms are nice and new is they provide a sealed plastic bag with two towels, two disposable toothbrushes, and two itty bitty tubes of toothpaste. Antonela was great as usual.

Saturday night sucked. My back up amigovia had given me a tour of Puerto Madero in her car. I would describe her style of driving as inventive but not too bad, really. I did have to cough up 40 pesos for 'naptha' plus lunch as usual. So getting laid for free isn't really any cheaper but at least she gave me coffee with brandy in it. She has a pocket copy of the Kama Sutra on her bedside table so we are working our way through that. After spending the afternoon with her, I went back to the amigovia but she was annoying me so I left. I went to Periplo's for the first and last time. The blond bartender is cute and sassy but to pay 25 pesos for a drink is just ridiculous in Buenos Aires. God only knows how much it costs to buy a woman a drink there and I have no intention of finding out. That was the first hard liquor I have drank since I left Mexico. Jameson´s of course. But there were four women in there and they were all dogs. I chatted with one dog who was quite nice. We discussed politics and had similar opinions about US foreign policy. But I would not fuck her with a borrowed dick. Then I went to Orleans and I don't know why I bother. I think I've made my last trip to that place too. Finally I went to Hook's for one last beer and had some serious negotiations with Paraguayana Yesica who came down from 150 to 100 to visit my apartment prior to work some evening but I said that was too much and that I would feed her an excellent fish dinner if she would come for less than 100. She agreed. I don't know how much less though. I guess I could give her 90 as she is a nice girl. But that will be some other night. Lastly I searched unsuccessfully for María but by then I was drunk anyway so I went home and fucked my amigovia who basically slept through the entire process.

MeGustaBoliches

07-20-03, 14:27

Dickhead,

You pay inflated drink prices at Peripilos for the same reason you pay inflated prices at other chica boliches....to enhance the profit of the bar, since they do not get a "cut" of the price you negotiate with the chicas.....Peripilos is owned by the same people who own Cutty Sark and Ness, more well know boliches.....

Guillermo

07-20-03, 14:42

DH,

I would be curious to know what time you were at the Periplo. Was it late afternoon? Or early morning?

Chica drinks are $25 pesos, and the chica gets $5. As MGB says, whatever you negotiate with the chica is strictly between you and her. There is no drink minimum or bar fee to take her out.

And, yes, every once in a while, there is a chica or two in there who is worth taking out. But, no, the selection is not as bountiful as most of the rest of the clubs.

Guillermo

Airplane

07-20-03, 22:52

This was my first trip to Buenos Aires.
Instead of repeating things that have had considerable coverage already, I will mention my experiences and opinions from June and for further information about the items (descriptions, addresses, etc.) do a forum search, because that’s where I learned about them. I will try to limit other comments to things I don’t remember seeing mentioned before.

If you are considering a first trip here, take the time to read back through the reports, several months, at least. Almost anything you want to know is here. Cut and paste yourself some notes to take with you. You’ll have some great ideas to get you started.

Thanks to Jackson for this great site and all his efforts to make it what it is. Thanks also, to all of you who provide such useful information.

Got my ticket (from USA) from discountfares.com (see Argentina Links section). Will use them again.

Mayra and Roxana (see Argentina Links section): very nice and willing to help.

Transportation to and from airport: Manuel Tienda León. AR$ 16 each way. If you are staying in an area where they will take you to your hotel/apt for free, they will also pick you up for free when you leave. You need to make a reservation a day in advance. Call them at 4314-3636 or 4315-5115. They will speak English and answer the phones 24 hrs.

Changed some money at the bank right after customs in the airport and used ATMs the rest of the time.

City tour with Roxana: nice time and very informative.

3 tailor-made shirts from Sir Greytton AR $380.

Very comfortable loafers from Lopez Taibo (corner of Alvear & Ayacucho) AR$ 360.

Roxana can take you to get a good leather jacket, tailor-made, if you want it that way. They speak good English and I liked them, because they can explain things and answer your questions. AR$ 430 for tailor-made, with removable liner.

I’ll continue this with part 2, so that it isn’t too long

Airplane

07-20-03, 22:56

Part 2:

There isn’t much I can add to the chica info, it’s already all here in the forum.

A couple of things possibly, about the Affaire at Pueyrredon and Paraguay (1114 Pueyrredon): ½ hr. AR$ 70, ¾ hr. AR$ 100, 1 hr. AR$ 140. Around 6-8 chicas. Opens at 2 (1400), but most of the chicas appear after 3.
Plaza Miserere/Once train station: if you’re looking for a nice, clean, safe neighborhood, don’t go; if you don’t speak a fair amount of Spanish, don’t go; if you go expecting to find some nice looking chicas, it’s a long shot. See MCSE’s report for more info and warnings. One of 3 age 20 something pros I saw in the station, I would do. I met an age 30-40 something chica in the plaza, who I think would look pretty nice in some nicer clothes. We went to a place about 3 blocks away that cost AR$ 10 per hour. The room was clean and had porno movies, music, etc. The chica was AR$ 20. She wasn’t a pro, but did this sometimes for extra money. I mention this experience for the 1 or 2 of you who, like me, would do something like this. I think the rest of you have enough sense to use the bars, Internet, or newspapers to find chicas.

Had an encounter with a pickpocket on Florida Street between Cordoba and Viamonte. It was a holiday, around noon and there weren’t many other people there. A woman carrying a baby asked for money and after I ignored her, she walked up and grabbed my arm saying please, please. Telling her no wasn’t getting rid of her. All the time my attention is on her pulling on my arm. She finally gave up and went away. She even had to get the baby to let go of my jacket! A bit later, I noticed that there was a wrinkle in the handkerchief in my back pocket. The only way that could have happened is if someone pushed it down in the pocket. They didn’t get anything, because that’s all that was in my back pockets. I had my money in a front pocket and other places and I don’t carry a wallet. I think that all you can do in a situation like that is haul ass. If you try and push her away, as I did, she keeps hanging on to you and keeps your attention where she wants it. You should think about what you really need to have with you and how you can best protect it, before you go out.

There are many things to see and do in Buenos Aires besides chasing chicas. The time Out Buenos Aires guide lists lots of places to see. The restaurant, bar and price info in it needs updating.

I hope that this is useful to someone.

Patata Chips

07-21-03, 08:53

If someone is in Buenos Aries between the 25 to 27 July, we can do some mongering together. Or clarin girls selection.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid future delays, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!

Dickhead

07-21-03, 11:47

I was in Periplo's around midnight mas o menos but it was the notoriously dead Saturday night. And of course I knew that about why the drink prices are inflated but I am just saying I see no reason to go that route.

Now the route I went yesterday was more in character. Went with monger E to apartment at Rivadavia 1929 first floor number 7. 35 pesos for an hour. Two girls were brought in. First one, who answered the door, was acceptable to me but not to E. Second one was acceptable to E. So, no problems choosing. My girl was a Paraguyana named Lourdes. A little chunky but nice tits and ass, smooth skin, hair smelled a bit of cigs but not bad. Good quality blow job that could have finished me off if I did not have a duty to research pussy as well. Covered but enthusiastic. Then sex in many positions. Reasonably tight, some pussy contractions, big enough tits to get both nipples in mouth at once, etc. etc. Nice for doggy style. No rush. Rooms are very 'basic' but that is no problem for a Dickhead. I would see this girl again.

However E was very disappointed with his girl Araceli, a Buenos Aires native. He said she was totally cold and disinterested. Therefore not recommended.

Today I think I will check out another E recommendation, Guemes 3221 number 2A. Report to follow.

OttoGraham

07-21-03, 11:51

Stange New Respect

My favorite magazine The American Spectator gives out something they call the "Strange New Respect" award to conservative politicians who go to Washington as an enemy of big government and then end up earning the strange new respect of the media, unions, leftist pressure groups, etc... when they "mature," catch Potomac Fever and become fans of government social engineering, pork barrel spending, and overall big government. Sandra Day O'Connor is a recent winner.

On a twist, I am establishing the WSGForum Strange New Respect award, to be periodically awarded by yours truly to mongers who've stangely earned my new-found respect. The first winner is Dickhead.

This winter's sojourn has seen DH seemingly casting aside his SW addiction and spending time at places like Orleans Cafe, Hooks, and other places he formerly disdained as beneath (or is it above?) his mongering ways..... The crowning touch was his recent visit to that manly man's hangout, the Periplo.

It's good to see that an old dog can learn some new tricks (in search of new tricks). I don't want to get too extreme here, but I'm wondering if we're soon to get full DH treatment of a trip to Black and a date with that queen of the high-priced BsAs trixies, Jovana.............

-Uncle Otto

MiddleAgeGuy

07-21-03, 13:11

Gentlemen,
This 'Periblo bar', I know it is by the Mariot but where? Last time I was in BA, I tried to find it at the end of Florida. Do you go right at the end of Florida? Is it the place where all the dark caped/clothed girls always want to take you to for a drink? which I thought was the piano bar?
Back again in a little over a month.
Anybody out there tried that cute little Micalea at AreaVip? DH, I would be more than pleased if you spent your own $A150 with Micaela and report. There was a good report a few months ago about Anabel from the same site. Any other 'site' reports?
MAG

Guillermo

07-21-03, 14:12

middleageguy,

The Periplo is tricky. As you are walking north on Florida, when you get to the traffic circle at Plaza St. Martin, yes, you turn right onto Marcelo T de Alvear. The Marriott will be on your left and the Periplo will be on the right hand side, just 2 or 3 doors down. It's very unremarkable. There are no signs visible from the street, just a big black door.

Guillermo

JPF

07-21-03, 16:07

Re: finding Periplo

Even with accurate directions I couldn't locate which door belonged to Periplo. So, what I did and what I recommend is going into the Marriott and asking one of the doormen or porters. They will be able to point you right at it.

OttoGraham

07-21-03, 18:17

Periplo is inside a dark door, as Guillermo says. Above the door there is a man riding and old-fashioned bicycle on a globe, which is the symbol of the establishment. It isn't that hard to find, there just is not a big neon sign saying PERIPLO.

As has been mentioned, the place is very much hit-and-miss. However, I like the atmosphere and service from Don Reynaldo, the bartender. Others think a part-time blonde female bartender is hot. However, I might be old-fashioned in that I prefer my drinks mixed by a man who reeks of "bartender."

-Uncle Otto

Dickhead

07-21-03, 21:01

Originally posted by middleageguy
Gentlemen,
This 'Periblo bar', I know it is by the Mariot but where? Last time I was in BA, I tried to find it at the end of Florida. Do you go right at the end of Florida? Is it the place where all the dark caped/clothed girls always want to take you to for a drink? which I thought was the piano bar?

No, that is Le Piaf, which is in the other direction from Florida on Marcelo T Alvear inside a galleria (shopping center). In other words, Periplo is towards the water from Florida and Le Piaf is away from the water.

Leo

07-22-03, 13:26

Duh... If you go to periplo, have the old man make your drink, not the blond hottie bartender. Save her hobby - I understand she selectively offers herself, and lately may be less picky with whom she leaves.

Tell her you have a pet lab or other dog and you may be more highly considered ;-) Don't mention this site or the internet, or you'll have no chance.

Fedora

07-22-03, 14:34

I have now visited BA three times. Got a lot of help from reading this board, so I thought I should contribute some of my own experience. First some thoughts about the clubs in BA, and then about specific girls.

Black

Before I went to BA the first time I read several postings about the different clubs, and their comparative qualities. Some posters think Black is in a leage of its own. After extensive experimentation, I ended up as a Black regular, and fell in love with the place.

There's one quality of Black wasn't clear to me from reading earlier posts, and that has to do with the atmosphere of the club.

Black: Atmosphere

When people compare Black to other clubs, they typically compare the girls. That's fair enough, but it leaves out an important component: Black has a kind of sexual energy and atmosphere that I haven't found anywhere else, not other place in BA, not other place in the world. I just think it's a uniquely cool place.

My favorite time at Black is when the extremely beautiful exotic Dancers are performing on the tables (and on the bar), 90+ beautify girls on the floor moving to the music, staring at you with eyes saying "why don't you fuck me tonight?", but never approaching you.

It is a strict rule at Black that girls cannot approach clients. They don't. For the first-time visitor, that policy might seem intimidating, it makes the girls seem somewhat 'aloof' and unapproachable. To me it's an essential part of what creates the erotic energy of the place: the "fuck me tonight" signals are all sent in 'subtle ways' (well, subtle for *****-bar, anyway): girls passing by you casually, dancing in front of you for a while, 'accidentally' touching your thigh, and, of course, long piercing looks into your eyes. I just love sitting there for a while, looking at the girls, the dancers, the whole scene, figuring out which one to take home for the night.

In sum: I'm much more comfortable hanging out at Black than I am at any other club in BA. I enjoy the place more than I enjoy any other club.

Black: The Quality and Price of Girls

Girls at Black ask for (and typically get) more money than girls do at other clubs. I'm a notoriously bad negotiator in Spanish (since I don't speak it), I operate on an extremely generous budget, and I always ended up paying about 150 usd for between 2 and 3 hours. At other clubs I pay about half that and those who are serious negotiators even less. (The totality of my negotiation skills: Me: "How much for 2 hours?" girl: "200 usd" Me: "150?" Girl: "OK".)

Are girls at Black on average better looking than girls at other clubs? I think YES. There's one aspect in particular that distinguishes the large majorit of Black girls from practically all girls at other clubs: Of the about 15-20 girls I've seen from Black, practically all of them had exceptionally good looking bodies, and very few of them had children (and the exceptions, you can't tell that they've had children) Almost every girl I've seen from Madahos (also about 15) has had a less than perfect body. In most cases that's because they've had children.

[of course, 'better look' doesn't mean better in bed, but I won't try to generalize in about the 'in bed' quality of girls since that's even more subjective than looks].

Black: Doorman
One other thing about black: Try to befriend Isaac (?) the black guy at the door, he's got a lot of info about the girls. (things like: "make sure you eat her pussy before you fuck her, then she's so much better"). Tip him generously and he can work small miracles for you.

Fedora

07-22-03, 14:48

Some Girls

I thought it might be useful to list some of my favorite girls from my last three trips. I've seen about 30 girls, these are the ones that stand out.

Bia (on Platynum)
She is listed on the Platynum website. She's about 20, blond, short hair, very sweet. You can't see her face on the website; don't expect a classic beauty, but she's very cute. In my view, she's the best you can get of a certain kind of prostitute: A genuinely sweet, cute, super fit, girl next-door type, who happens to work as a hooker. She's also really good at it. My last week in BA I had to spend a few hours in my room every day working. I just keep her around all day. Fucked her every 40 min or so, in between, she was watching TV, eating, taking to her mother on her phone, etc.

The most amazing thing about Bia: Body. She's an aerobics teacher. Works out at least 1 hour every day. She's not muscular, just unbelievably strong, lean, and fit, as close to a perfect 20yold body I've seen. Luscious lips. Her butt is the perfect firm popcorn shape, couldn't be sexier She'll do all the basic stuff, bbbj, dfk, and she'll take anything in bed.

[Couple of warnings: She doesn't have big tits, perfectly firm round, Champagne glass size. I like that, so for me no problem. But if you're looking for a cow, she's not for you. Also she has three tattoos (removed from web pictures). One is a little eye on her neck. I love it.]

Veronika (Madahos)
Met her at Madahos, brought her and two other girls (whom she helped me pick) to my hotel. The other two turned out to be no good, so I sent them home, but kept Veronika for the night, and saw her again a few times. She's got long dark hair, 26 years old. Almost classically beautiful face, very lively, radiant, and friendly, Tan skin, small, but firm tits, big sexy ass. She's exceptionally nice to communicate with and she'll do anything you ask her in bed (bbbj, fuck for ever, lick your asshole, etc etc.) Even though I know no Spanish I know all about her favorite movies, her aspirations as an actress, etc. etc. She was very good.

Celeste & Elizabeth (Black)
These are two girls who work at Black. They are friends. They are both petite. Very cute. Well matched for a threesome. Personality wise, they are as different as can be. Celeste is cuter than Liz, extremely cute brunette from Paraguay, she's got the cutest body of any girl I've seen in BA. A dream. But she's a bit uptight and she will not do bbbj. The solution is to combine her with Elizabeth. Liz has the most beautiful face, she's very friendly, and gives great head (BBBJ). So you have Liz do the blowjobs and you fuck Celeste. She likes to be fucked real hard. Great combination.

Andrea (Black)
From Black (she's there almost every day), relatively popular girl, so you have to act fast if you see her. Long dark curly hair, fairly large non-natural breasts (big drawback in my book), exotic looking. Very, very good in bed. She deep-throats better than any girl I've seen in BA. Loves it if you eat her pussy

Camilla (Black)
From Black. I mention her only because she's extremely cute, in my view. She looks a lot like the actress Linda Fiorentino Exceptional body. (I realize I keep saying these girls have exceptional bodies, I guess that's partly the reason they ended up my favorites). However: make sure all arrangements are made about BBBJ etc in advance and don't give her money up front. She needs to have pressure on her to perform well. Even then it's hard. Make sure you 'click' with her before taking her home.

Teacup

07-22-03, 16:44

Now here is a seriously off-topic question. I know y'all get good deals on leather in BA, what are my chances of getting motorcycle leathers? Not 'fashion' items, but 1.5mm race leathers with the right reinforcements, armor, etc.

Like I said, off-topic!

Hi,

I can recommend a leather shop named Aida at Florida 670 #30 that can make anything you want. The ladies that run the place speak english, then know what they're doing, and their "factory' is on site. I also like the fact that they have price tags on their merchandise, so there's none of this "foreigner vs local" pricing BS. Tell them that Jackson sent you and they'll give you a 10% discount.

Jackson

Dickhead

07-23-03, 12:58

[Maria]

Last night on my way back from dropping off María I stopped in Exedra because I needed to use the bathroom. The quantity and quality of hookers was higher than usual so I decided to do some formal research. I first counted the number: 26 although there was ingress and egress simulataneous with my count. I then divided them into four categories:

1). Women I would do under normal circumstances (i.e., not my present circumstances of having been drained completely by the Human Vacuum cleaner and not when it would be the fourth woman of the day) = 4
2) Women I would do if I were especially horny but not drunk = 3
3) Women I would do if I were drunk AND horny = 5
4) Women I would not do under any circumstances = 14

But none hot enough to interest me in my weakened condition. Highest rating would be about 7.4. I have still yet to see an 8 or above in that place but then again the hottest woman I've ever seen in Orleans wouldn't even be a six. I have yet to see a 9 in Buenos Aires. Antonela is an 8.

But if I screw three 3s per day that equates to a nine under the Dickhead methodology. Just kidding of course.

More things I like about María: The woman is punctual. She was supposed to call me on Friday but did not because her kid was very ill and she did not work Friday or Saturday. She was very apologetic about this. Other than that she has always been right on time.

She makes my bed when we are done having sex. She washes the drinking glasses. She rubs my back and feet after sex. She does not mind walking. Thursday is her birthday so I bought her a Spanish-English dictionary as a gift. We walked to Corrientes to the book store and then she suggested we walk the rest of the way to Florida and Paraguay but MY feet were tired so we took a cab.

A nice girl.

Dickhead

07-24-03, 22:29

Today I was feeling like too much of a Dickhead to pay 100 pesos at 1707 Santa Fe but not enough of a Dickhead to go to the 30-35 peso place on Rivadavia. Re Rivadavia 1929 the second time I went there I said, 35 for an hour right? and she said no 30!! I gave her 35 anyway even though she was not very good looking but neither I am and plus I was drunk.

So anyway today I went to 3221 Guemes number 2A. First I called on the phone and asked how many were available and was told only two at the moment, a blond and a brunette. I asked how much for an hour and was quoted 120. I said wait a minute, my friend told me 80 and I am not a tourist; I live here. She then backtracked and said 120 was for complete service including "cola." This may be of interest to you fudge packers out there but I told her no cola was needed so she said 60 for the half hour and 80 for the hour but everything was con preservativo. I said fine and asked if I needed an appointment. Seh asked when I planned to come and I said well definitely not until after I get there. She appreciated the joke and then I said in an hour and I would decide when I got there whether I wanted a half hour or an hour.

Guemes runs parallel to Santa Fe and the cross street is Billinghurst. You can take Subte line D and exit at Bulmes. I took the bus 39 which stops six feet from the door. Rang the bell and a fat chick came down to open the door. Fortunately she is the madam. Living room has two leather couches and a TV playing soft core porn. Smells clean, in fact smells like bleach. First the brunette was introduced, Salomé. Tall, like 5'8", lots of hair, very doable. Then she left and the blond came in, Marisol. Smaller without as much tits, doable but the choice was easy: Salomé all the way.

Tried negotiating 45 minutes for 70 pesos but that didn't fly. Gave the madam 80 and exact change was appreciated. The room was nice, but kind of hot as the heater was cranking. Bear in mind the Porteños feel that it is quite cold now. I disagree. But anyway, I don't know WTF the madam was talking about because the BJ was definitely NOT covered and was very, very good. Enthusiastic, plenty of variety, fairly deep although not María deep, absolutely no teeth. Strongly suspect CIM possible but I never do that the first time because then I cannot rate the pussy for my fellow board members. DFK. Shaved. Was not in the mood for DATY as DATY with a shaved pussy makes me feel like a child molester. Pussy was good but next time I will go for CIM for sure. For some reason doggie was not too good, angle was wrong and she was a little too tall. Face to face with DFK was perfect to finish. And it was exactly 45 minutes so I wasted 10 pesos. Too bad so sad. No rush to leave, though, but I didn't really feel like chatting so I just dressed and split after about five minutes of post coital caressing.

I left three nice chocolates, one for each chica and one for the fat madam who will probably eat all three. This place is strongly recommended. The hours are 10A to 10P or 1000 to 2200 (I went at 5 PM). Four girls in total work there and I confirmed all are non smokers as is the madam. I will try to screw all four before I leave, strictly for comparative purposes. BTW E, the door is red and not green. Bathroom was very clean as well. Madam shows you out.

Oh yeah, phone is 4823 3150.