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Hello,
I will be in town on Tuesday evening and on Roxana's advice(she isn't available) I was hoping to meet up with a few of you gentlemen. I would appreciate joining the group for dinner or meeting at a club of your suggestion. Just drop me a note of the when and where if you don't mind one more to the party.
Thanks,
Sky
I'm heading to BsAs for my first time in September, as I've previously posted. Can anyone tell me what to budget for the girls? How the pro (or non-pro) system works? Average prices, categories, etc.? Thanks!!!
Last night I tried Danesa from Platynum. 100 pesos the hour, has an apartment Suipacha 921 6C which is right next to Ness. Not too bad. A good value. Pretty tall fake blond with firm medium sized tits and a nice ass. Her phone is 4312-5659. I think another girl works out of the apartment too. No BBBJ but the head was good and she likes sex. When I stopped for a rest after screwing her non-stop hor a half hour in different positions, she immediately began masturbating vigorously so I sucked on her tits real hard until she came. Not too much kissing allowed and she had a lot of stubble (beaver not shaved) on her upper legs and strangely around her asshole. Probably won't see her again but a nice girl and worth a fuck. BTW 100 was the quoted price and I did not try to bargain. I'd be interested to know if she quotes more for non-Spanish speakers.
I did then go to the galleria Andres mentioned across from Orleans. I don't think there are hookers there presently because the steps were chained off with a Privada sign and there was a cop standing right in front of the steps and not moving.
Then walking home there were a lot of hookers as usual in Bar Iberia at Avenida de Mayo and Salta. Some were pretty cute. I think this place would be better than Orleans or Exedra for night time action and plus the drinks are cheaper. Perhaps someone else can check this out as there is only so much one Dickhead can do, especially with an amigovia that needs to be fucked twice a day. I told her I wouldn't bring anybody I didn't know back to our apartment (but Corina and María I know so she will have to put up with that). OK, well maybe one of these days I will pull one out of there and take her to the Marbella for an extra $17.
Friday I did not get back from Uruguay in time to go to Nuevo Estilo so I hope someone went there and fucked Antonela so she wasn't too lonely.
Dickhead:
I guess that girls show up at Galerías Pacífico during the businessweek. It could also happen that, in the midst of the Winter vacation, the mall decided to keep a "family" touch for a while.
Thanks for checking out,
Andres
Dickhead,
The apartment you refer to on Suipacha is a casa. You will notice the same phone number is used by a bunch of chicas listed on Platynum and Gemidos. When you call that number, you are speaking with the madam, who will then send you to the particular apartment where said chica works (several aparts.)
Yes, the rate is AR$100/hr, which is not a bad deal.
Hey guys,
I got your messages about checking out the past posts on "Bibi", but I don't think this is the girl I am talking about? I am talking about the girl on Platynum and www.escorts-argentina.com named BIBIANA. The long haired blond who is like 5-3. She's totally my type, I'd appreciate it if anyone who has any info on her would share; I'd make a trip down to BA just to spend some time with her.
Would anyone consider meeting her to share some info about her? Looking at her I don't see how it could be such a bad experience :)
Thanks in advance for any info anyone can share.
M
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Traveler864
07-28-03, 01:35
Dickhead,
I was interested in giving Danesa a call, but not seing her faced has stopped me. What is her face like? Is she pretty?
Thanks,
Trav
Masta:
Another dude asked about her a couple of months ago. I remember Rob_Roy responded saying she was hot, and looked even better in person. He'd been with her several times and highly recommends this girl. Go get her, and be sure to post your experience.
Late,
Judd
MiddleAgeGuy
07-28-03, 14:09
Masta,
Also, look at my post of May 29 this year. Bibiana of Platynum is Melani of AreaVIP, who is the same as Mariana of my May 29 post. She is fun, passionate-like also. Someone else was with her in mid May from the posts also and had a good time. Did not know she was on the net until I came back home and saw her there. As I said, last place I saw her was at Blacks, so you would do well, price wise, to call the number instead.
middleageguy
Thomaso276
07-28-03, 19:24
Dickhead: can you advise what time there was action at Bar Iberia at Avenida de Mayo and Salta.
Ponce de Leon
07-29-03, 01:21
I pulled Bibiana out of Black's one night. At first she asked for some pie in the sky number as most girls there usually do. I mentioned in Spanish that I called her from the website and she quoted a lower price. Honestly I couldn't remember if I called her before or not but thought I'd throw it out there. She ended up leaving for I think 250 pesos for around 2 hours.
She was a fun girl that middleageguy is correct about. She was very passionate. In fact, it was very late when I pulled her out. She asked if she could stay over night but I had plans the next day so I had to pass. Call me crazy but sometimes I prefer to just sleep alone after the fun time.
Have fun!
Ponce
thanks for all your quick replies fella's.
I have made up my mind, I am coming next month. Say hello to the 23 yr old 6-6 300lb gringo in Blacks late august..chances are it will be me. i'd enjoy chatting it up over a few beers with some local experts.
All the guys who have posted on Bibiana seem to have some spanish speaking ability. Do you know if she speaks any English? The websites all say spanish/portuguese; neither of which I speak.
write me at mastawsg@hotmail.com if anyone wants to meet up sometime late August and do some hunting together.
thanks again
-m
Ponce de Leon
07-30-03, 00:37
Masta,
If I remember right she doesn't speak any decent English besides $100 dollars, you, me, hotel, make love, fun time, I love you, etc. You get the drill. Same 'English' as most of the girls there.
Rule of thumb. If the ad says "Spanish/Portuguese" it means the girl is from Brazil and not BA. The Brazillian girls are some of the best in Buenos Aires, IMHO.
If you speak no Spanish you might do well to buy Pimsleur Spanish. It works pretty good to help you learn the basics.
Masta - I might be in BA in late August and if so maybe we can hook up at Blacks. Email me ponceinba@hotmail.com
Originally posted by traveler864
Dickhead,
I was interested in giving Danesa a call, but not seing her faced has stopped me. What is her face like? Is she pretty?
Thanks,
Trav
Her face is fine. She is pretty but not beautiful. She is quite fair skinned and has nice pouty lips. A bit too much makeup for my tastes but my taste is no makeup at all so take that with a grain of salt.
Originally posted by thomaso276
Dickhead: can you advise what time there was action at Bar Iberia at Avenida de Mayo and Salta.
Action appears to start around 11 PM.
In the last few days I have fucked Britny from Platynum who is nice looking but was a dead fish boring fuck and has really small tits, and Bernarda from Platynum who is recommended but charges 150 instead of 100. I also fucked a really tiny Paraguayana named Janina at the cheap ho house at 1929 Rivadavia. She said se weighs 42 kilos which works out to about 93 pounds for the metricly challenged. Recommended. Very nice on top if you are feeling somewhat weak like I am right now.
Dickhead,
I arranged a meeting with "Bernarda" several months ago. She is listed on Area-vip and Gemidos as well under all kinds of names (I think she has 3-4 entries on Platynum).
She speaks English and is a nice girl (teeth could use some work). But I felt too much like she was on the clock, waiting to go to her next appointment in the calendar. I ended up just having lunch together and having her give me a regular massage afterwards. The whole thing was just too business like, and she was heavier than the pics indicated, with big augmented tits. I did not even want her to shed the clothes, though she insisted.
I suppose I disqualified myself from all future consideration as candidate for induction into the Hall of Fame of the Argentine Mongers' Association, but I paid her the agreed 200 pesos and sent her on her way after 1.5 hrs. My precious essence of maledom was later donated to a carefully chosen blonde cutie from Paraguay, extracted from Blacks around 10pm. ($100 until next day at noon.)
That is not the same Bernarda that I fucked. Not heavy and not augmented and does not speak much English other than some phrases; understands little to no English. Teeth are fine.
Today I returned to 3221 Guemes and fucked the blond, Marisol. She is very thin yet curvy, although not much tits as usual for this country and the usual deceptive padded push up bra. Although I had already had sex in the morning and am very drained in general, she immediately made my dick so hard I did not have enough skin left to blink my eyes = sexy.
She is nice but not as good a screw as the marrocha Salomé. Only a little BBBJ before the condom went on. But then the head was pretty good, about a 7 on the 1-10 head scale with María being the only 11 I have ever met. Slower and sweeter than the Salomé head so perhaps worse only due to being covered (I can't wait to come in María's mouth on Saturday). Her pussy is not shaved so I ate her. Quite delicious and she was moaning but a visual check revealed she was just acting. Too swaybacked for good doggie but very nice on top and also face to face. A sweet girl who seems intelligent; I only used 40 minutes so we chatted a bit. She says she hears a lot of American women are fat --- let's not go there right now.
This place is recommended and Marisol said the fat madam did not eat all the chocolates I left the other day. After sex I was offered a beverage and also they have music in the rooms. The fat madam is pretty nice too.
07/31 - My first Santa Fe 1707 experience
Wednesday's flight from Miami was hideous: Security alert requiring every passenger to leave the Aerolineas Argentinas plane and recheck security screening (2 hours delay), some amenities in the plane not working properly (no light, no movie sound), too many people too nervous, etc. That prevented me to sleep well and get my stamina for hobbying.
After my usual rush for killing errands as fast as possible, it was 5PM, so I continued walking my 4th mile around the city but now with hobbying purposes. I went again to 188 Uruguay St and confirmed that the place is damn dead. Also, the place at 271 Montevideo St is still alive, whose legacy entrance was changed for a fancier one. I will take a look inside soon, for sure.
Being 6PM and having a dining appointment at La Brigada, I perceived that I wouldn't survive awoke a full meat dinner with fine wine. Therefore, I took my chances of "discharging my load" before falling asleep after dinner.
Went to Affaire Pueyrredon by 6:15PM. The place continues changing ar$10 for the entrance, but they raised the chica prices: ar$80 for 30 minutes, ar$110 for 45 minutes and ar$150 for an hour. There were 5 ladies, 1 of them doable but not gorgeous. Her name is Yamila and has nice tits (but not huge), god figure and acceptable face. I felt that it didn't worth the try, so off I went to Santa Fe 1707 3º.
Going into the building was easy. There, a lady greeted me and commented me the prices: ar$60 for 30 minutes, ar$80 for 45 inutes and ar$100 for 1 hour, all convenitional (extras arranged with the girl). I thought that, with these prices, girls couldn't be good. Then, the presentation begun...
Gees! The girls were better than those at Affaire and of the same quality as Bonnefemme. Three of the 7 ones captured my attention: A brunette Paraguayan called Karen, an exhuberant blonde called Catalina and a third dark haired girl whose name I forgot. They had nice tits and legs and, although a little chubby, in good shape for anything. I had to ask for a second decision round before choosing Karen.
We agreed on ar$80 or 30 minutes and BBBJ. After a third careful look, her body didn't seem as good as before choosing her, but she scattered sensuality all over the place: Nice, charming, very attentive, great BBBJ skills and very good massages, all of them provided in a plain but very acceptable room. Toiltes were very clean. Karen told me that hte best time to arrive there is 3PM, when most of the girls are available.
I left the pace very satisfied, considering the place worthing a second visit.
Now, I'm full of meet of all sorts of meets and wine. I need urgent sleep.
Hope this helps,
Andres
Andres:
Santa Fe 1707 is a brothel right? You mentioned that the girls were of Bonnefemme quality. How would you compare the place with Cielo or French st?
BA_ROBERT
Originally posted by BA_Robert
Andres:
Santa Fe 1707 is a brothel right? You mentioned that the girls were of Bonnefemme quality. How would you compare the place with Cielo or French st?
BA_ROBERT
I was very impressed with the chica quality as well as room facilities, at this place. But bathroom facilities are much better at French Street. Andres, I believe, there is a shift change at 8PM when more girls are available. At least that's what my girl, Paola, told me.
Bandy
Originally posted by BA_Robert
Andres:
Santa Fe 1707 is a brothel right? You mentioned that the girls were of Bonnefemme quality. How would you compare the place with Cielo or French st?
BA_ROBERT
Technically, I wouldn't describe Santa Fe 1707 as a brothel since there is no bar service and lounge area where patrons can gather and chat before making a decision about service. Usually, in these apartments the madam introduces the girls, explains prices and asks immediately for a decision.
I was in Bonnefemme a year ago and, from that experience, I can say that girls are of like quality (although Bonnefemme has nicer rooms, but nothing memorable). Cielo Private is similar to Santa Fe 1707 respect to facilities, but their prices double those of SF1707 and the girls' quality is lower. Never went to French (I heard that these place usually has older girls, but I may visit it in the future).
Hpe this helps,
Andres
Had my first bad experience here last night. Picked up a streetwalker outside of Cafe Orleans = Mariana 35 yo but seemed older. Agreed to go to my apartment for 100 pesos but asked about champagne and going out afterwards etc. Should have known better right there . . . I only had 98 pesos and she threw a fit about 2 pesos or .70 . . . wanted the money up front . . . should have thrown her out. Then switched and asked for 100 dollars. A first for me. Ended up with a poor quality bj and lay for 98 pesos but the experience pissed me off. And without her clothes she didnt look that good. Definitely NOT recomended.
I have to report the quality and skill level of the ladies here is something special. As for bang for the buck, you cant beat it. Cafe Orleans and Excedra both offer a great choice of women at all hours. Despite reports to the contrary, I find almost ALL of them doable, but then again I am known for my questionable taste in women. But lots of sweet experiences here . . . I like Barcelona better as a city but overall you can do more with less money in Buenos Aires. The prices are incredible . . . very attractive ladies for 2 hours for 35 dollars US. And the restaurants and especially the shows are a steal. Lots of good shows on Corrientes for 1 or 2 bucks US. Very nice furnished apartment for 400 US a month. P
What a shame. And to think you were just two blocks from María's post where 80 peso great sex with no money up front awaited you. I think I know Mariana: fake blond, lots of makeup, big lips, definitely older than 35, usually works on Marcelo T by Le Piaf? Kinda seems German or Eastern European although she says she is Porteñya?
OttoGraham
08-01-03, 17:00
Originally posted by Prokofiev
Had my first bad experience here last night. Picked up a streetwalker outside of Cafe Orleans = Mariana 35 yo but seemed older.
P, why travel all that way to have a twenty cent hamburger when for a buck you can have a nice juicy beefsteak? For the amount of money you spent on airfare getting there, saving money by doing a skanky SW is certainly no bargain.
-Uncle Otto
Ponce de Leon
08-01-03, 19:32
I've been lucky enough to have met Andres before while being in BA. A super nice guy that knows BA well. Thanks for the report Andres. I've been to Santa Fe 1707 before and it's hit or miss. When it's good it's really good and when it's bad it's um ....... bad. I've never actually seen a girl IN the apartment. I always pull them out and have them come to my hotel/apartment. Same fee + taxi fare. Karen is correct. Go around 3 PM or so and you'll have the best selection. Last time I went around 8 PM and the pickings were slim and I went home empty handed.
Bonnafemme was decent. I had a good session although there was only 3 girls to pick from. I saw a young blonde there who was a nympo and really was into the sex. She had on this Britney Spears school girl outfit on. The madam there is very cool and speaks excellent English. It's also nice how they offer you something to drink. The funniest thing was how the madam kept trying to get me and my amigo to do the complete service (anal) with the girl. It was almost as if I was in a restaurant and she kept mentioning the "special" of the day. It was about 50 pesos more but I'm not into that so I passed.
I couldn't agree with Otto more. I don't get the fascination for guys doing the street girls but to each his own I guess. As long as you aren't hurting anyone and having fun that is the important thing. Damn I miss BA.
Ponce
I was really glad to make it to B.A. I had hoped to have the pleasure of Roxana's company, but she was unavailable, my loss. She did however get me in touch with "TanWolf", a self admitted lurker, but it made for a memorable evening. We met at Cafe Orleans and had a couple of drinks, chatted and checked out the lady's. There were at least 6 relatively attractive ladies there, but I didn't want to "peak" too early and just chatted with a couple of them. There is a really cute brunette with great porcelain skin and a nice figure that works afternoons and early evening, that would make for a great way to enjoy a little afternoon delight.
We then went to dinner in Recoletta and about 11:30 headed to Madahos. All I can say is "yummy". I was very impressed with the quality and quantity of the ladies. I didn't see any 9's or 10's if you will, but a whole bunch of 7 to 8 range, most with smiles and "the look". A couple of ladies tried to hook us pretty quick and there was one older gal that I thought was going to try and pull one of us out the door. I guess she didn't want us to check out the younger gals, before she had the chance to make a run.
I was enjoying my drink and somehow every time I looked around there was one little gal that caught my eye. She wasn't giving me the come on or anything, but I kept noticing her, after checking out the ladies, I decided that I hadn't seen anything I liked better, so I got her attention and motioned for her to come over and sit, she seemed somewhat surprised and came over with a big smile and a hug, a great start IMHO.
We "chatted" as best we could with my limited Spanish, but I asked about price and she replied $300 pesos for short time. I smiled and said that I thought that exceed my desire and countered with $250. She agreed and off we went. She is about 5'5" and slender and was wearing her hair in a pony tail and looked like a college coed in tight pants and a belly shirt, great smile and fun gal. At the hotel I had about as close to an encounter with a desireable and willing "girlfriend" as one can have with a lady that you cannot communicate through language. There wasn't anything I wanted to do or be done that wasn't done with enthuisasm, it was about two hours or so of just plain adult fun and games with two very willing participants.
Afterwards I rode back to the club with her and they let me back in with no cover charge. I saw a couple of "new ladies" that I suspect would have been a worthy endeavor, but I wanted to visit a few other places for future references.
Tan Wolf said he really enjoyed the ladies at Newport from about 1:00 to 3:00 am and I went in and looked around at about 3:00am. He wasn't still there, so I assumed that he hooked up, but of the 7-8 girls that were still there I only saw a couple that interested me.
I decided that I should at least go to Black to check out what I had been missing.. What I found out was not much. The club was hot and very dark. I sat on one of the couches and two ladies stood next to me chatting. After a couple of minutes one of them said "Do you not realize that two very attractive ladies would like to sit with you?" She said this facing straight in to the crowd and I almost didn't realize she was talking to me. I asked them to sit one "robust" brunette and a cute blond. The brunette spoke great English and told me that she had lived in NYC for a year. They asked if I wanted to buy a drink and I said not at this time. (once again the info on this board saved me money and hassle) and then she said that her and her friend wanted to show me how much fun two ladies could be. I asked how much and she said $200 U.S. I said I am not in the U.S. and she said that was "cheap". $400 for two great ladies. I told her I was too tired to enjoy and of course she said that they would enjoy each other and I could watch. I countered with I feel it is a participatory sport, etc. At the end of it all I could have had them for about a total of $120. U.S total for two hours (it was closing time) and the cost of a drink. I guess that she pushed so hard that I lost interest and I really was tired. I spoke to Issac the doorman on the way out and he was once again very gracious.
At the end of the evening my impressions are much the same as some on this board. I thoughly enjoyed Madahos and would see the same girl in a heartbeat and there were a bunch of possibles. I am not sure if the bartenders at Madahos are "in play", but there is one that I would love to try and find out if she is interested.
I probably won't go back to Black unless it is a last resort, I got a bad vibe and the ladies that night were no better in IMHO.
Cafe Orleans has solid potential, I didn't see any "knockouts", but I was only there an hour or so, and Newport I am sure is better earlier than 3 am.
If anyone knows about the bartenders availability at Madahos let me know and what I would really like to do is find some info about the semi-pro to "occasional" scene if anyone has had some success in this arena. I would like to see if I can find a lady that would enjoy an evening, dinner, a show, etc as opposed to a straight run to the room kind of thing.
The city is all I expected and then some and I will enjoy coming back again and again.
Thanks to Tan Wolf for acting as tour guide. This post is for both of us. LOL
Sky Ryder
Sorry Sky Ryder, but the bartenders at Madahos are not permitted to go out with the customers.
Jackson
Andres and Bandy:
Not a brothel. Is the appartment on Santa Fe an appartment that lodge internetgirls? Do they have a website?
I've been to French st and Cielo private. It is also my impression that the girl quality is better at Cielo than French st.
The prices are quite expensive (free drinks) at Cielo and you will also get the classic line up. Although, I wasn't than impressed, there are one or two good ones at Cielo.
I also agree with Bandy who mention that the bathroom facilities seems to be better at French st.
Some links:
http://www.bonnefemme.com.ar/
http://www.cieloprivate.com.ar/
There is all sorts of discussions about clubs, internetgirls and even streetwalkers (yak) in this forum, but very little is said about these appartments/brothels. Would be nice if someone has more information on the subject.
BA_ROBERT
Fat Bastard
08-02-03, 11:46
I think the website for French Street is www.factorsex.com
And French street's facilities are unbeatable....very nice.
Fat bastard:
Factorsex doesn't seem to be the websited devoted to French St. since it has more than 60 girls, many of them well known independent girls.
BA Robert:
Santa Fe 1707 posted some of its girls on the Internet, but not all. Their phone number is 4816-1490 so you can spot which Internet girls work there.
From my point of view, apartments are tricky. It's an undeniable risk to get into a building you don't know and enter an apartment you don't know either (let alone not speaking the language or not mastering the local codes). It takes nuts to do such a move, especially having nice clubs available. I think that this associated risk makes apartments not very appeaing to the average foreign monger and hence the lack of reports in the matter. However, the local board delves into the issue.
Hope this helps,
Andres
DH,
Maria=Fabiana is a sweetheart and I already know her quite well. Super-sweet and IMHO beautiful but with low self-esteem. I knew I could make good use of you sooner or later . . . But the thought of following in your footsteps kinda gives me the creeps. Please don´t take that badly, but in this business I would rather lead than follow . . . And if you would, please don´t abuse this poor girl. To me, she seems a little fragile, but an absolute gem. Also, I didn´t tell her that her personal life was available on the Internet- not sure she would like that. But this just proves the power of the web . . . reading about a girl half a world away, I knew exactly who she was and where to find her. God Bless the WSG Forum . . .
She told me she was worried about you . . . taking Viagra and beer at the same time. "Isn´t that dangerous? What if he died while I was with him?" she asked. I told her to check for a pulse and then search for your wallet . . .
Your Friend - P
Uncle Otto,
Are you referring to her age = 35 or the fact that she was on the street? I like them a little older, so for me 35 is a great age. But I have pulled 2 other ladies off the street with incredible results- in addition to DickHead´s friend Maria. To be honest, if I was in any city in the US, that girl Mariana would have been a good deal for $35. But there appears to be something in the water here that turns the professional girls into sweethearts. Really excellent attitudes across the board. Do they teach this stuff in high school here? Kinda amazing . . . Things will never quite look the same after this . . . Peace, - P
Jaimito Cartero
08-03-03, 01:44
Is the pricing listed on the FACTOR website for 1/2 hour and hour? Looked like some nice Chicas there. Any other fees involved in getting them to your room (other than the taxi fare)?
QUOTE]Originally posted by Prokofiev
DH, Maria=Fabiana is a sweetheart and I already know her quite well. Super-sweet and IMHO beautiful but with low self-esteem. [/QUOTE]
Interesting. I never have thought of her as having low self esteem. I have always thought she could be doing better than she is doing. But I would never abuse the "poor girl." I just got done doing her again. When she arrived she said "aprovéchame," then "abúsame" so maybe you are right. I told her I would certainly do the former but never the latter. Fragile is also a stretch for me. Durable comes to mind far more quickly than fragile. We are amigos as she said tonight. I treat her right. Tonight I told her I wanted her to pretend she was a "monja" = nun but she thought I said "mona" = monkey so that threw her off a bit at first. Guess I have to make those J's a bit more fricative.
It is sweet she is worried about me. I don't usually use Viagra when I am with her and I never use very much anyway. I do love the way she always pours my beer for me and then rinses out the glass. Today she sucked Dulce de Leche off my cock for well over an hour so the "poor girl" is at least well nourished.
You shouldn't have posted her real name!
Originally posted by Dickhead
You shouldn't have posted her real name!
That's right.
Be careful, guys. There's always an a**hole ready to say "Oh! You are YYY but your real name is XXX, right? I saw this in a website". The only possible outcome for such a stupid move is to annoy the girl and make her wary of foreigners who know WSG or other forums.
Hope this helps,
Andres
DH,
I think if she was worried about someone knowing her first name she wouldnt tell everyone within 5 minutes of meeting her. As to mentioning the Forum or the Internet, I never do. I think most of them would apreciate the publicity, but hate some of the personal comments and secrets about their sex lives.
But I do think she is fragile and is concerned about her lack of status and education. One minute shes a sex kitten and the next a confused little girl . . . But at least for me, she brings out a protective feeling . . . that she is someone to take care of and would be an easy mark for the wrong guy. Maybe Im just too soft?
Andres,
As to being wary of foreigners, no way in hell thats gonna happen here. They all tell me they would rather go with a foreigner than an Argentino. Its a matter of trust, style and above all, money. Whether its their name or another personal detail, I always say - my friend told me about you. What friend? The crazy Americano. That could be anyone but for Maria that immediately meant DickHead . . .
When to Cattos last night and left with Lila - 33 yo, Argentina. Ended up being very interesting. After negociating for only an hour, she decided she needed an orgasm and instructed me on the proper technique that she required. After a lot of hard work, she popped her cork and promptly fell asleep for an hour or so! If that is not a GFE, I dont know what is. Kind of a first for me . . .
Peace, -P
Just returned from another one-week tour of BA and have to say that it was quite enjoyable. Tried a couple of new places this time Affair at Pueyrredon and thanks to Jackson’s directions, I found Nuevo Estilo. NE was awesome, I played some pool, the beers were cheap and the Chica I hooked up with was a 9 easy. Her name was Caro or Karo or maybe Carol but she was fun, 20 y/o, had a perfect body, long dark hair and awesome lips. We played some pool for a while, then she did one of the shows (nice) and then we visited the short-term hotel next door. Overall, I really liked the place and had a good time. I liked Affair because it provides a daytime option. The early selection was definitely limited but I did find a couple decent girls in my two trips there. A word of caution though, there was one chica there that had to be pushing fifty and was a complete troll. I kinda got a chuckle out of it though just wondering if anybody ever did this chick. The best catch of the week was definitely the very young girl I met at Hooks. She was very hot and a sweetie. I had her to my place for several nights, really a GFE, she stayed the night and joined me for breakfast at no additional cost. Sorry, I don’t remember her stage name, just here real name and don’t feel right about giving that out. I did like the quality at Hooks, some nice looking and very young chicas. There is one Peru/Paraguay chica there that can’t be over 18, totally hot, tight boy, a bit of an Asian look, if anybody has info on her, I’d like to hear it. Oh, yeah, one other chica I entertained one evening, Maria, from Playwomen. She is great, not the hottest but a great girl, very smart and good sarcastic sense of humor.
Interestingly, overall, I found the quality of the chicas to be better on this trip then my last in February – could be a fluke but the talent seemed a bit better.
I know that I am not as expert as some who live in the city but I feel that I need to inform all on those who are new to the city and that are concerned with the dangers that they should be aware of when walking the streets of BA. In my opinion, the first of the two grave dangers is dog shit on the sidewalks (and absolutely everywhere for that matter). If you are coming from any city with pooper scooper laws you will be astounded at the volume of dog shit. If you are not constantly looking down you WILL step in it.
Secondly, loose tiles on the sidewalk; you can totally bust your ass on these. Anyone else share these thoughts? Still, I love the city, the food, the wine, the women, it can’t be beat.
Well, regarding María, she didn't tell me her real name until about the third time I slept with her. So she probably likes you even more than she likes me. I actually asked her if she wanted some publicity (after the first time I met her) and she said hell yes because she did not get enough business. Otherwise I never would have posted anything about her location and so forth.
I was on the verge of asking her last night if she finished secundaria; I got the impression she had. She is a bit embarassed about not knowing anything about computers. I think I have enough trust built up with her now that I will try to show her how to get a hot mail account. I have never seen the confused little girl side and I don't really want to. BUT what you say makes some sense because I am remembering that last night she was beating herself up for being late (like seven minutes) because she got off the subway and went the wrong way. Normally she comes to my place from downtown but this time she came from Constitución so things were reversed.
Now on to other things of importance. Is 1707 Santa Fe open on Sundays? And why was Nuevo Estilo closed for a while? Also, a friend of mine went to 3221 Guemes and confirmed CIM from Salomé. And, does anyone know if Argentineans need 1) a passport and 2) a visa to visit Mexico? (assuming they fly directly to Mexico and do not transit in the US)?
Two more weeks to go. I don´t want to leave. Here is my list of things I miss about the US:
Originally posted by Dickhead
Now on to other things of importance. Is 1707 Santa Fe open on Sundays? And why was Nuevo Estilo closed for a while? Also, a friend of mine went to 3221 Guemes and confirmed CIM from Salomé. And, does anyone know if Argentineans need 1) a passport and 2) a visa to visit Mexico? (assuming they fly directly to Mexico and do not transit in the US)?
About Santa Fe 1707, you can find out by calling 4816-1490
Argentine citizens need a passport but not a visa to visit Mexico. Remember that there is a very long waiting time for getting a new Argentine passport (about 2-3 months).
Hope this helps,
Andres
Originally posted by Prokofiev
Andres,
As to being wary of foreigners, no way in hell thats gonna happen here. They all tell me they would rather go with a foreigner than an Argentino. Its a matter of trust, style and above all, money. Whether its their name or another personal detail, I always say - my friend told me about you. What friend? The crazy Americano. That could be anyone but for Maria that immediately meant DickHead . . .
I should have been more precise: Girls may get wary of those foreigners mentioning having seen their names in the board, not necessarily any foreigner, since they may not like her real data to be posted in a public forum.
If I were a girl, I would also prefer a foreigner to a local, simply because it is less likely to suffer some kind of scam or violent attack from a visitor in a hotel.
Andres
Originally posted by Ponce de Leon
I've been lucky enough to have met Andres before while being in BA. A super nice guy that knows BA well. Thanks for the report Andres
You're welcome. When and where did we meet?
DH,
Como estas ? While I was there in late June, other mongers (jackson, exon, Jaime, Mickey) and myself inquired to the owner why NE was closed and moved to the location in the corner. He didn't go into details but he mentioned about some problems with politicos. And that was all !!
Did anyone get a detailed answer, I'm interested in finding out.
Andres,
I remember reading in the Escorts59 website where some girls got mad when Dart Vader posted their info. But most are cool with it and know the local website exists.
Btw, what happened to him ?? I miss his posts and pictures
Originally posted by Elvis
Andres,
I remember reading in the Escorts59 website where some girls got mad when Dart Vader posted their info. But most are cool with it and know the local website exists.
Btw, what happened to him ?? I miss his posts and pictures
I guess that the history of Dart could fill a book such as The Karamazov Brothers...
Briefly, it seems that El Almirante (the forum administrator) finally realized that this guy has some psychologic problems and banned him from the board. However, Dart opened his own forum (search Yahoo forums for "Dart") so I guess you will be able to see his pictures again.
What I appreciate from his pictures are the availability of the gils "as they are" (no makeup, no BS Photoshop brushing like the Capurro style) and his aim to serve his fellow mongers. However, the girls he uses to picture aren't my cup of tea.
Hope this helps,
Andres
I will be traveling to BA for the first time Sept 5 for 10 days. Looking forward to the women chasing and the low rates for hotels, etc.. Just a little concerned that I will get bored after a few days of chasing. Obviously I would rather go with friends to expand the experience, but it didn't work out. Besides the chasing is there plenty to do for a solo traveler there or do you think I should think of cutting the trip time to 5 days instead of 10.
Thanks Jeb.
OttoGraham
08-04-03, 16:16
Originally posted by Jebapa
I will be traveling to BA for the first time Sept 5 for 10 days. Looking forward to the women chasing and the low rates for hotels, etc.. Just a little concerned that I will get bored after a few days of chasing. Obviously I would rather go with friends to expand the experience, but it didn't work out. Besides the chasing is there plenty to do for a solo traveler there or do you think I should think of cutting the trip time to 5 days instead of 10.
Thanks Jeb.
Jeb,
Most fellows who go down for a brief first visit end up trying to extend their visit. I know I did. There is plenty to see and do for ten days.
-Uncle Otto
[Maria]
One thing that virtually all the girls have told me, is that we make the mistake of thinking they do 3, 4 or 5 guys a nite. Both Maria and the club girls claim that a typical night is one guy and that 2 is a special pay-day. Often they get no dates and go home with little to show for their work. I tend to believe this, but again it could be BS. But considering that they often stay 1 and a half to 6 hours, there isnt much time to do more . . .
DickHead,
Maria only went to grade school and became a maid at 13 or 14. Because I wear a tie or at times a suit, she considers me upper class. When I told her that I took a woman to Teatro Colon she told me it was only for the educated. She asked me not to take her to a fancy restaurant or the theater because she thought people would laugh at her. She always tries to clean the bathroom, make the bed or wash any dishes. She is so thankful of everything. Gave her a diet-coke to take with her and I thought she was gonna cry. Some nights she claims to have no clients and often stays home if it rains. If I could take one little gift home with me , it would be her . . . But dont tell her any secrets . . . not likely you have any . . . because in 10 minutes she told me almost everything about you as well as herself.
Later, -P
Ponce de Leon
08-04-03, 18:28
Prokofiev is correct about some of these girls never having been to a fancy restaurant before. I've taken normal girls and working girls to plenty of restaurants in Recoleta and Puerto Madero and some of them get nervous because they don't want to do anything that will make them look silly. I always tell them not to worry and just relax and enjoy themselves.
He was also right about girls pillow talking about some of us. Be careful in this regard. Try never to tell the girls your real name or more personal information than is needed. I know one girl from BA on Yahoo that shares her password with her family and friends. She also forwards me a lot of email to translate for her so I have read some of your emails to her. Funny stuff! Some of you really really really need to learn to use a private email address. I've seen a few guys' full names and the company they work for because they are emailing from their work emails. Be VERY careful with this. Luckily I'm a good guy and would never do anything harmful with this information.
Another FYI. Take a grain of salt with everything these girls tell you. Some of them are honest but many of them BS like you wouldn't believe.
Nope, haven't told any secrets. That is funny what you said because the other night I caught myself wondering if she would fit in my luggage. There is folclorico on Saturdays on my block and she said last week she likes that. Maybe I'll see if she wants to go. I told her I wanted her to be the last woman I slept with in Buenos Aires so I will see her one more time for sure.
But furthermore, an alert Board member noted that I have a hooker in my building so I immediately went and fucked her. Alejandra 4382 3732. She was lavishly reviewed by an Italian a while back but I didn't get the lush response he got. Nice though. 30 pesos la hora. Total cost with transportation and tip? 30 pesos. I'll probably do her again the next time it rains all day.
Just got a password from Mr Jackson and I finally am going to be able to post my report from 2 weeks ago.
I had decided to avoid the club scene for once and try room service instead.
Queen Roxana arranged everything wonderfully by e-mail and phone and I was glad I had her assistance. She was just the most helpful and pleasant person. It went something like this (crescendo):
Day 1/
14:00 DANESA for one hour session, AR$150 plus the cab.
Let me just say I was not impressed. She might have been having a bad day or perhaps my expectations were too great from the posts I had read. Danesa was in much of a hurry. A quick CBJ and she was on top at an accelerated pace. I ended the suffering rapidly and she was on her way before the hour was up.
21:00 LIBIA for three to four hours, AR$300 plus the cab.
The company was most enjoyable, we had dinner in Puerto Medeiro then went to La Diosa a night club on the other side of the river. Overall a very pleasant evening in charming company. Very nice GFE throughout the evening. The sex was OK but without passion. BBBJ but not DATY and no DFK. Remarkable english as pointed out by those who enjoyed Libia's company before me.
Day 2/
14:00 KAREN originally for a one hour session, AR$200 plus the cab. Add AR$600 for 4 hours in the evening.
Karen is a dark skin Brazilian Diosa herself. Beautiful and slim and smiling all the time. Very personal and friendly contact meaning she literally jumped on me all the time. BBBJ, DATY and GFE. I saw her again at night, a nice dinner and some Capirinhas added a nice touch to a very enjoyable evening. Muy Muy bien and highly recommended.
By the way, I have read posts to the contrary but all these girls requested to be paid before.
I will be going back soon and will report when I get back.
Member#1127 (yep, that is my real name!)
Hi Member #1127,
Regarding paying the chicas first:
They can request anything they want, but it doesn't matter, because smart mongers NEVER PAY FIRST!!!
Thanks,
Jackson
Fat Bastard
08-05-03, 11:40
Concerning Nuevo Estilo Boliche.....I was under the impression that it had reopened in the same location, but someone just posted it was on a corner. Could someone set me straight?
Thanks
FB
Amantelondres
08-05-03, 14:52
During my last trip to BA I went to Periplo where I've been going for several years. It was a week day and met Marcela from MDP but she comes to BA during the week. She was fine. Quick shag at the Horizonte. Nothing special. My mind however was on other things. There was a blonde bimbo behind the bar who said she was Bauer's niece. Bauer is the white haired guy behind the bar who's been there ages and pours a good scotch. Nice guy. But he wasn't there that time so I believed her. I then read on the board that she's a working girl. Shit !!! Has anyone been with her? Ruin my day, go on!
Originally posted by Fat Bastard
Concerning Nuevo Estilo Boliche.....I was under the impression that it had reopened in the same location, but someone just posted it was on a corner. Could someone set me straight?
Thanks FB
It is the same location and it is not on a corner. The restauarant with the pool tabels is on one corner (but closed for renovations when I was there two weeks ago) and the bigger restaurant is on the other "corner" which is not exactly a corner. NEB is in the middle of the block. La Pampa near Figueroa Alcorta.
Headed down to BA in a few weeks. Obviously the pictures on area-vip.com seem too good to be true. Anybody have any ideas which girls on there are the real deal? Post your requests also. I will see a few girls that board members request and will be posting extensive reviews of my trip.
Jeb
Andres,
I know, I like how they come out, so real ! Because of his posts, I had tried out some of the girls and they were really cool.
Btw, I tried searching in Yahoo groups for "Dart" or even Dart Vader, but have been unsuccessful.
Would you know the direct link ? If so, thank you.
Originally posted by Andres
I guess that the history of Dart could fill a book such as The Karamazov Brothers...
Briefly, it seems that El Almirante (the forum administrator) finally realized that this guy has some psychologic problems and banned him from the board. However, Dart opened his own forum (search Yahoo forums for "Dart") so I guess you will be able to see his pictures again.
What I appreciate from his pictures are the availability of the gils "as they are" (no makeup, no BS Photoshop brushing like the Capurro style) and his aim to serve his fellow mongers. However, the girls he uses to picture aren't my cup of tea.
Hope this helps,
Andres
Originally posted by Elvis
Andres,
I know, I like how they come out, so real ! Because of his posts, I had tried out some of the girls and they were really cool.
Btw, I tried searching in Yahoo groups for "Dart" or even Dart Vader, but have been unsuccessful.
Would you know the direct link ? If so, thank you.
http://ar.groups.yahoo.com/group/dart
Gracias Andres, thanks for the link !!
For all of you interested in daylight SWs, one of the local mongers reported a young girl with awesome butts at the corner of Sanchez de Loria St and Alsina St (few blocks from Once square), from 4-5 PM to 8-9 PM.
Hope this helps,
Andres
Boxing Rule 222
08-06-03, 21:07
Hello people, it's nice to make your acquaintance.
I am from the United States and I will be going to Argentina to relax and enjoy the beautiful country and to meet new people. I already contacted Mayra about renting an apartment in the Recoleta area. I have been surfing this site for a few months now and I enjoy it and the way it seems everyone gets along.
Boxing Rule 222
08-06-03, 21:59
Hello people,
I was wondering if any of you people ever used this website before?
http://www.amigasargentinas.com/main.cfm
Also you someone please tell me about the best escort website for Buenos Aires?
Where in Buenos Aires are the red light districts?
Thank You for your times.
Boxing Rule 222
The amigovia has been all lovey dovey lately, perhaps mustering one last attempt at convincing me she is worth an effort. Therefore when I called Guemes at 8 PM Salomé was leaving. On the very worthy Marisol remained but I decided to wait.
The neighbor was unavailable. Another monger had recommended a María from some web site. I called her and she offered full service for an hour for 100. She said she was near Córdoba and Callao and wanted me to call again when I got there.
But when I called she directed me to 2085 Paraguay, several blocks away, not as close to Córdoba and Callao as seemed reasonable. I was suspicious about this so overshoot on Córdoba and doubled back to approach from the opposite direction any Murphys might be counting on. Then when I rang the buzzer, clearly another woman answered although she had said there was no one else there. Clearly a bad sign and I split immediately. No need to take chances.
Today I did Salomé again from 3221 Guemes 2A. Sweet sweet sweet. Now I think I'll wash some Viagra down with a bottle of wine and go fuck the neighbor again.
Fat Bastard
08-08-03, 11:30
Jebapa,
If you want a true "What You See Is What You Get," go to:
www.escorts-argentina.com
The number of ladies is kept at fifty and they have to earn a spot on the site. They don't jack guys around, no bait and switch, etc.
FB
In a quest to try to find more chicas I like and look around Buenos Aires, I have started looking at the various bars not mentioned in the forum. There is some interesting stuff around. As Jackson says, you don't need 20 hotties, you need one (or two) at a time. And what is a hottie anyway? Most importantly, someone who is hot for YOU. And Jaime Cartero, if you read this, I suspect you could have had a great time at a couple of these. So if you are here for a few days, it can be worth a look.
The most striking thing about these bars is the lack of customers. In some cases, I was the only customer on a weeknight at about 01:00. I got a lot of attention, obviously. It is worth considering that if one wants a GFE experience, your chances may be better with a chica that has had no client for 4 days than a chica doing big spenders every day. I was worried about rip-off places, and tried to sniff out the possibilities as best I could. I don't think I found one yet. I did not take a chica from most of these places, although I did find a nice one I have seen twice, and will see again. And a couple others. It's not important where. Generally, I had a drink and talked to a couple chicas, in each place.
To understand my search a little: I am in my 50's, 5'9", 165, trim/muscular. I have studied Spanish a couple of years, and have about 700 hrs of school classes in Costa Rica, and more at home. I like younger chicas, and prefer the body style of swimmers and skaters. Small, trim, slim, well proportioned. I have been to Madahos at least 4 times and have yet to seriously consider a chica there. There are a few at Black, but I haven't reached the point of allowing myself to be ripped off by Black. Only as a last resort, if that's where the market truly is, then I will buy in it. Like I bought at Le Palace in Panama City, which is much more expensive.
Andres, if you read this and know of any real negatives on these places, I would appreciate the info and help. On drinks, I drink only carbonated water and lemon juice, no alcohol. If you don't speak spanish at all, it is a little tougher, but not impossible. The people will help, and you know the relative values from info in this board. The chicas should all be in the area of ar$100-ar$200 short time, depending, as usual.
Closer: Next to Affaire in Recoletta. Jackson, I'm glad you didn't say it is a waste of time. I found a chica with the cutest smile. 5-6 chicas late, another I think is interesting. Drinks ar$15, ar$30 chica, 2 drinks to exit. Small show floor. I will return.
Limbo Club: On the strip in Recoleta, near hotel Etoile. A guy pushes the place in the street. I would say don't bother, unless you like Irish Pub/Restaurants.
Pippers Pub: Next to Catto's in Suipacha. A nice place. Drinks ar$12, ar$20 chica. One drink to exit. 8-10 chicas. Singer, no show. Some participation dancing. I slow-danced in the spotlight on the stage with a chica at invitation of singer.
Ness: Accross from Catto's on Suipacha. A nice place. Drinks ar$10. 8-10 chicas. There was a singer on Wednesday, no show. Singer very loud. Some participation dancing. Some interesting looking chicas.
Monte Carlo: On Paraguay, between 9 de Julio and Suipacha. Near Hook. A quiet bar. 4 chicas, a couple interesting looking. Drinks ar$8, ar$20 chica. I bought a chica a drink just to talk.
Boycote: Maurice Alvear 965, between 9 de Julio and Suipacha. Near Hook. A quieter bar. 4 chicas, didn't have a drink, but plan to return to check out one chica.
Kurvas: Suipacha 833, between Cordoba and Paraguay. One block from Hook. 8-9 chicas. Drink ar$12. Show dance floor. There were 3 younger chicas who were pretty nice looking for me. Friendly atmosphere, but I deliberately did not buy a chica a drink, because I may return.
Approach: San Martin 957, between Paraguay and M T Alvear. Black and white stripe modern interior. Some show dancing. Drink ar$15. 6 chicas. There was a large body well built blonde here, which is unusual. The bartender was friendly, as were the chicas generally. The bartender tells me there is a private area behind a curtain where some action(BJ) is possible.
Chicote: Cordoba 645, between Florida and Maipu. It is inside in a lobby. I was always a little worried about entering. 4-6 chicas. Drink ar$15. Chica drinks are ar$25 simple, ar$50 for "copa or better". Same kind of crap as Black. Guess which one the chica will try to get, if you let her. ar$100 for Vip area chica drink. The chicas were not interesting, but there was a very small, thin chica. The rest were big or old or heavy. I didn't find the place interesting. I couldn't tell about how much hustle was going on, because I wasn't buying ANYTHING, but the attitude seemed friendly.
Cafe Lindo: On La Valle, between Florida and Maipu. It is downstairs, inside a shopping arcade, but the entrance is visible from the street. I walked in during the afternoon, for completeness. There were 4 chicas, desperate for customers/company. Generally in their 30's or early 40's. The place was kind of run down, but they offered to do a show if I stayed. It might be possible to have fun here, they were certainly motivated. As opposed to the absolute regulation of Recoleta. I don't know. I didn't buy a drink, because it was too much attention for me.
Cocodrillo: Gallo 1131 near corner of Paraguay. A cab ride toward Belgrano. This place seems a locals place. Many local guys drinking, dancing. It reminds me of a beer bar with sawdust on the floor. It was a little difficult to tell which chicas were working or local, from the formation and activity of the groups. There was much participation dancing. I was hit ar$30 for a 2 drink minimum, which must be a gringo price. I was hit on by a well built mother of 3, late 20's, who was one of the more interesting looking chicas there. I did not stay long, as I was not very comfortable in the atmosphere. It was on the rowdy side, with young drinking guys. While they seem less touchy than American guys, there was no reason to risk it.
Tributo: Cacabuco 166 in San Telmo. Chacabuco is the continuation of Maipu on the other side of Ave de Mayo. $5 cab ride from El Centro. A small place with a large wall of mirrors that makes it look bigger. It has a show dance floor and atmosphere. 6 chicas, interesting but too big. One chica with an unusually pretty face, good build. ar$30 for 1 drink ar$20 chica drink. They seemed to be pushing drinks more heavily than I like, but they were also bored for attention. When I told the pretty chica I only buy drinks when I am planning to leave with a chica, they left me alone. They tell me you can leave with a chica, and I did see one guy do this. I was a little suspicious of the atmosphere, but have no real reason for this. It may be because of a remark here in the forum.
Solid Gold: In Recoleta, down from Mudahos. Solid Gold has been mentioned here. It does seem awfully commercial. What has not been mentioned here is the ridiculous cost to exit with a chica. They tell me the cost is one ar$30 drink per hour, up to 5-6 drinks for TLN. They say with the approval of the boss it can be 5-6 ar$20 drinks, but couldn't tell me what the requirement was. It is still ridiculous, and I told the bartender so. There are some interesting looking chicas, but I don't like being exploited to that extent.
I hope this info will encourage some of you to look around a little more and maybe spread your business around a little.
One interesting side-note for those of you who speak Spanish is that the verb for "come" here in Argentina is acabar as in Voy a acabar! or Acabo! In Mexico it is usually venirse and in most of Spain its correrse which always sounds to me like "I´m running away".
One thing I sure as hell can´t find here is a Chinese restaurant. I´m not talking about a good Chinese restaurant . . . I mean ANY Chinese restaurant. Empire serves OK Thai food but not great. After a month here I´m tired of the endless variety of lomo con . . . and papas fritas or pure.
Have a date tonight with a woman I picked up on the street several days ago. She´d like to move in with me to clean, cook and perform whatever wifely duties I might require. She is in dire need of money . . . as are almost all the ladies here. Mentioned it to Maria last nite and she volunteered for similar duty, although not 24 hr. This place is amazing and can warp anyones perspective on life.
Peace, -P
Prokofiev:
You can go to the Chinese neighborhood and try one of the half dozen restaurants there. The Chinese neighborhood is located at Arribeños St and Mendoza St, in Barrancas de Belgrano, 3 blocks from Libertador Av and Juramento St. I recommend "Todos Contentos", "Hsian Ting Tang" and Palitos.
You can try excellent Japanese food, very cheap, at the Japanese Association, Independencia Av at the 700-800s. Also, you can have a luxury dinner at Nihonbashi (Moreno St and Rincon St), but that could be expensive (ar$150 each).
On Downtown, you have several Chinese restaurants. I remember one at Maipu St between Lavalle St and Tucuman St, and another at Viamonte St between Talcahuano St and Uruguay St.
There are also Polish, Scandinavian, Russian, Indian, Armenian, Jewish, Mexican, etc, etc, whatever you want to try. Try to find the "Guia de Restaurants de Buenos Aires" by Fernando Vidal Bussi (any bookstore should have it) and you are set.
Hope this helps,
Andres
HappyGoLucky
08-09-03, 19:23
Originally posted by Andres
"You can go to the Chinese neighborhood and try one of the half dozen restaurants there."
Hey Gang,
I don´t know about the veracity of this statement, but my "girlfriend" down here told me that the local newspapers claim that around 50% of the Chinese Restaurants in BsAs put gatos in the food. I`ll eat anything anyway, ... , so no biggie. Just thought it was an interesting point of trivia.
Originally posted by Happygolucky
Hey Gang,
I don´t know about the veracity of this statement, but my "girlfriend" down here told me that the local newspapers claim that around 50% of the Chinese Restaurants in BsAs put gatos in the food. [/i]
Some restaurants, such as Grants, Toronto and others, have been fined for sanitary faults. That makes people think that Oriental food restaurants owners don't hesitate to cheat customers, but that is too far an assumption.
In the case of the Chinatown restaurants, I'm almost sure that they provide quality food.
hope this helps.
Andres
Originally posted by Lexton
Andres, if you read this and know of any real negatives on these places, I would appreciate the info and help.
Pippers Pub:
Ness:
Monte Carlo:
Chicote: Cordoba 645, between Florida and Maipu.
Cocodrillo:
Tributo:
Thanks for your survey!
I understand that Ness and Pippers have older girls and not very attractive, but if you found these girls appealing, may these places are changing.
Monte Carlo opened a new branch at Carlos pellegrini between Cordoba and Paraguay. I will visiti it (but not the one at Paraguay).
Chicote is a bar previously reported as a rip-off place, since they try to order drinks ASAP and you owe a ar$100 tab before you realize it. I try to avoid these places.
Cocodrilo merits a visit. I will try it soon.
Tributo was reported as a tourist trap. I'm wary of places in which girls are too pushy for drinks, but maybe there are 2 or 3 specimens that merit a trorough gynecological research.
Hope this helps.
Andres
Boxing Rule 222
08-09-03, 22:30
Hello people this is Boxing Rule 222,
I am a new member to the WSG forum, I only posted 5 entries so far but I have been a longtime reader of this wonderful forum and I have to thank many of you in advance for all the information you have freely given to help out people like me.
I am heading to Buenos Aires for a long visit starting in September 1st. I’ve surfed the escort websites but I have not seen anybody really rated many of the girls. (which ones are with the price)
If you people have any first hand knowledge about these escort girls please post here.
www.escorts-argentina.com
http://www.amigasargentinas.com/main.cfm
www.platynum.com.ar
Thank You,
Boxing Rule 222
P.S. Does anybody here have anymore websites that have apartments for rent in Recelota.
Hi Boxing Rule 222,
1. There's no reason to request back-channeled information about the escorts. Everything is perfectly legal here, so anyone who wants to respond can do so right here on the Forum.
2. If you're looking for an apartment, I would suggest that you contact Mayra at mayra@argentinago.com or checkout her website at www.argentinago.com
Thanks,
Jackson
As I have moved up the payment scale from 30 to 35 to 40 pesos my neighbor's oral diligence has improved. Alejandra is a nice girl and her tits are fun to suck on. Recommended
But late last night after touring a few places with Andrès I had to go back to Rivadavia 1929/1931 first floor number 7. Here, if 30 pesos for an hour is too much, you can get laid for 30 minutes for 15 pesos.
This time I had to wait about 15 minutes before being shown 3 women, all doable but one marginal. Choose the best of the lot, another Salomè, and told her I would give her 20 if she made me come with French (covered). She did that quite well and then I had enough left to stick her with another load pretty quick. She is from Santiago del Estero and has nice tits. Recommended. 20 pesos total cost with no drink minimum or cover charge. Taxi not needed.
OutoftheGame
08-10-03, 01:11
Andres,
Please go to Cocodrilo and tell me what you think. I don't know what day or time LEXTON visited this place but I really liked it. I agree the drink prices are high but I find it to be a fun crowd. Like I have stated before it is not a place for older guys. Good luck Andres I think I speak for everyone on this board when I say that we are lucky to have you.
Hi guys,
I'll be in BA for my first time next month, and so I don't get treated like an ignorant gringo, can someone please tell me what the going rates are for mongering in various venues? I know this information has been posted before but I realize that prices are subject to change. Thanks a lot!
After a night at Kilkenny having a couple of pints, I decided to try a couple of new (to me) venues. I went to Hook and Catto.
It was about 3:30 am and getting close to closing time. Hook had a couple of possibles, but I decided to try Catto's just to see what they had to offer.
I saw a young lady named Melana, a cute, firm 22 yr old brunette and she was as good as anything else I saw. Off we went. She wanted ar$300 for 2 hours and settled on $200. She seemed very pleasant and affectionate. We got in the room and she asked for a beer from the mini bar and headed to the bathroom to ready herself. Out she came and we got started....the warmth she showed in the taxi disappeared and in about 20 mins it was all over.......I thought okay round one and we will start round 2 in a few minutes....in the shower I went...when I came out she was dressed and ready to go and had the second mini bar beer almost gone. She asked for the money and I tried to explain that she had agreed to two hours, she indicated that she was done for the night and I needed to pay her...I reluctantly did so (I didn't want a scene in the hotel at that time if night) with no taxi fare and sent her on her way.....My first rip off in B.A. I think that this lady is a abnormality at Gatto's but I will not see her again and the next time I am in the bar I will mention it to the manager.
Jaimito Cartero
08-10-03, 11:03
I know it's hard, and you don't want to cause a scene, but you did pay top dollar (in my opinion, for Cattos), sometimes you have to stand your ground.
If she only stayed 45 minutes, then give her 75 pesos.
I'm not sure of your spanish skills, but this is one reason why a decent command of spanish never hurts. When you let them rip you off like this, it only makes them think it's okay.
Went to Ness , Hook and Cattos last night. Hook has very young looking girls and Catto has several older models. Once again opted for Lila (1970, a good vintage...) and was not disappointed. Yes, she´s a little older but if you treat her well she will be your sweetheart. She blurs the line between GF and Pro. Could just be a cleaver act. If so I´ll give her an Oscar and keep her. She suggested anal, something I enjoy but almost never ask for. Told me she loves it and it showed. Paid her 140p and she stayed about 2 and a half hours. Check her out. To me, she is a beautiful woman, but I know you guys have different tastes. But if you rub her down a little bit, she falls asleep. I mean catatonic, almost dead. Very strange indeed. But if you like backdoor, she gets my highest recomendation. Also her younger sister works at Catto.
As to prices, I have never paid more than 150p =$52US.
You are absolutely correct that I did get ripped off and as I said I wasn't in the mood to fight with the gal. I expect that the next time I walk into Gatto I will go right to the manager and at least tell him that the lady doesn't live up to her end of the bargain, and while I won't make a "scene", I will make sure that everyone "understands " that this ladies performance is subpar...if nothing else it will make me feel better. I don't speak much in the way of Spanish, my shortcoming, but I am taking steps to change that as well.......
So is the going rate at Gatto/Hook less than that at Madahos or at Black for a lady of comparable quality? Is there a consenus of what the price should be.....I certainly don't want to continue to overpay?
Thanks, and if anyone happens to run into this lady, it would be fun to tell her that You heard she "stiffed" a gringo last week....LOL
Sky Ryder --- I too was all most the victom of a ripp off at Catto's --- In may case the Lady wanted US dollars rather that Pecos which the deal was made in --- Roxana saved me on that one ---A tip for you --- Unless you know the girl and have been with her before be very specific in your negoations --- Make sure she knows, aggrees too and understands her part of the deal --- I.E. --- What acts are to be preformed, how long a time you will spend together and that the deal will be made in Pecos rather than dollars --- And of course she will be paid After, not before or durning --At first meeting with any of thease girls its sorta pot luck or YMMV --- She'll preform one way to one monger and another way to the next --- You may very well find a sweetheart that you will want a repeat or possibility a three peat --- Since you've already been together once the next time there will be very little negoicating and more fun since each party knows what is expected of them --- Exon
Ponce de Leon
08-11-03, 03:20
In the spirit of sharing information I wanted to throw out the name of a place. Someone might have mentioned it before but I never have seen it. Can someone check it out? It's called Maluco Beleza. I guess it's a disco or dance club that has tons of girls dancing but there are also tons of pros there. I hear that the majority of the girls are from Brazil. I know a girl that dances there and heard that a few of her friends "work" there. I'd love some information on this place if anyone is there now. I'll be there in a few weeks and would like to check it out.
Maybe a job for our go-to-guy Andres?? Anyway, the address is Sarmiento 1728. The website address is: http://www.malucobeleza.com.ar/
Good luck. I'm still searching for the fountain of youth!
Ponce
MeGustaBoliches
08-11-03, 07:13
Sky,
You ask about prices: I have spent a good bit of time in BsAs over the past year (just over 4 months total). I spent as little as 40 pesos for one hour at my apartment (thanks to Clarin classifieds) and as much as 100dollars (Playwomen....I was drunk and weak).....the average price I spent was 150pesos....took home chicas from Ciceron (formerlly Affaire), Ness, Madahos, Cutty Sark, Excedra for this price). Average time....2 plus hours....the range was as little as 45 minutes and as long as all-night, depending upon any number of factors, most especially whether she liked me and we were having a good time.....good time=longer time! Second dates are almost always longer than first dates in my experience.....
happy hunting
Sky,
Looks like Cattos is being mentioned quite a bit lately. I have taken only one girl out of this establishment, and she was an absolute joy. The only word I can associate with her is "fun". She is truly a trooper and nobody is likely to have a bad time with her.
Her name is Rafeila, a 22 yr. old Brazilian bombshell. No children, great body, great attitude, multi-orgasmic. I had a TLN encounter ( about 12 hours) for 200 Peso. She used to work in Black, so you know she meets above average requirement regarding appearance.
Bandy
Hi guys,
It's been awhile but I'm back, yeah baby! Will be in B.A. this upcoming weekend and hope to meet up with some of you guys, especially Uncle Otto, Andres and of course the God Father, Jackson. Been keeping up with the reports and there has been alot of shagging going on. See you all soon. Yeah Baby
Hi. I live in argentina, and I've noticed that renting stuff here it's very hard, and expensive. When you are in BA for vacation, and you wait in a sunny day a girl's call in your apartment it's very disgusting. Perhaps, if you need a cell phone for renting and you are here, I can help you.
15-56092579.
Can't remember who made the comment recently that they were getting bored of the endless combinations of lomo with papas fritas and pure and I know I haven't contributed about chicas lately since I haven't been to BA since late last year, but hey, whoever you are, branch out and try the endlessly different ways the Argentinians make the best chicken in the world (it's true) (try Pollo al Verdeo and I dare you not to leave salivating) and try their endless variety of pastas that have to be the best in the world outside Italy, and for Pete's sake, try riñones and chinchulines and mollejas, some of the best things you're going to find while in Argentina besides for their uncannily great beef and chicas! Sorry to put this into the BA section when it probably belongs in the general section, Jackson, but I believe the fellow monger I'm thinking of posted his comment here.
Also, have you tried the bife de chorizo (this isn't sausauge so if that's what's keeping you from trying it take a crack at the best sirloin cut you're ever going to feast on before you leave BA)?
Have you tried the entrañas? This is skirt steak and the Argentinians are masters of it, so come on, get with the program and stop eating lomo every day man!
Aren't I right about this Uncle Otto? Help me out here Otto! DownBA
I know it's early , but I am planning three weeks in BA during the holidays and was wondering if there will be another Thanksgiving dinner/party for the mongers. If so, then I will be there a couple of days early to visit with the fellow AMA members.
Also James Bond... I had the pictures developed of your Hillary Swank look alike from Hooks and will email them to you tmorrow. That was a fun night... Looking forward to BA as I am tired of the Mexico skank scene. Saludos.
Another nite, another girl from Catto. Tried Flor (Flor de Maria), a 30 yo Peruvian. Long black hair. Nice body. Nice teeth. 150 pesos and enjoyed it. She´s a good kisser and very sweet in bed. We didn´t do anything special, CBJ and several positions but it was a treat. These ladies are starting to get to me. It´s like having a date with a favorite girlfriend who suddenly develops porn actress skills and gives 101%. Really quite special.
Also I need to heed the advice often given here, from Otto as well as others. Everything is SO cheap that you must stop sweating the little stuff. Take cabs . . . they are VERY cheap. I received a number of fake bills this weekend and it pissed me off. But it only amounted to $35 bucks. Trying to save 10 or 20 pesos with some club girl is counterproductive. You need not pay more than 150 pesos, but trying to bargain her down to 120 or 100 often just isn´t worth it Lay back and enjoy it. Life is short.
Peace -P
Originally posted by mcse
Hi. I live in argentina, and I've noticed that renting stuff here it's very hard, and expensive. When you are in BA for vacation, and you wait in a sunny day a girl's call in your apartment it's very disgusting. Perhaps, if you need a cell phone for renting and you are here, I can help you.
15-56092579.
when staying at the Etoile last year, a rented a cell phone from the hotel and it was very inexpensive, as I recall. What other hotels rent cellphones?
LAGNAF
I know that the Hilton rents cell phones, however my experience is they were very expensive. I believe it was in excess of $1.00 ( USD) per minute.
The interesting thing about phones in BA is that you pay for the minutes you use to place a call and not the ones when you are receiving a call
Glad to hear that my experience at Gatto's was an abnormality. I am looking forward to jumping back into the fray later this week.
I know that it has been said a lot on this board, but I highly encourage anyone who has the inclination to use Roxana's services, she is a wealth of knowledge and is also great as an "ice breaker" of you happen to see a "non pro" that you have an interest in.......
Sky
I went to Maluco Beleza last year and it just seemed like a local's dance hall. It was a younger set, (I'm mid 40's), lots of samba, salsa upstairs, and across from another salsa place on Sarmiento. I didn't see any obvious working girls, but they might be there. It is a big, crowded place with a big stage and at certian times, some Brazilians of both sexes get up and do some dancing.
Originally posted by Ponce de Leon
In the spirit of sharing information I wanted to throw out the name of a place. Someone might have mentioned it before but I never have seen it. Can someone check it out? It's called Maluco Beleza. I guess it's a disco or dance club that has tons of girls dancing but there are also tons of pros there. I hear that the majority of the girls are from Brazil. I know a girl that dances there and heard that a few of her friends "work" there. I'd love some information on this place if anyone is there now. I'll be there in a few weeks and would like to check it out.
Maybe a job for our go-to-guy Andres?? Anyway, the address is Sarmiento 1728. The website address is: http://www.malucobeleza.com.ar/
Good luck. I'm still searching for the fountain of youth!
Ponce
As for renting cell phones, I recently ask Mayri the rental costs for cell phones and I was told that it was 10 Arg. pesos a day which entitled you to ten minutes a day and any additional minutes would be charged at a rate of 1 Arg. Pesos per minute. Hope this helps.
Yesterday afternoon I tried an apartment at Lavalle 1735 apt 5B. It was OK. 60 pesos for an hour. I wanted the gal I talked to on the phone, name of Violeta, but when I arrived she was on the DL (or the IR if you are a football fan) with a broken arm and was acting as madam. I was shown two women, first a tall, skinny but curvy specimen who looked quite adequate. I can't remember her name but I think it was Floriana or F-something like that. Second one was Natalia. She had short hair and a compact muscular body. She looked a little dikey so I decided to fuck her. It was nice but in no way remarkable. She did kiss pretty well and also the BJ was BB but I don't know if CIM would be possible. There was a knock on the door after 40-45 minutes which pissed me off although I was finished by then anyway. We were talking about food and cooking and did not get to finish our discussion on Alfredo sauce. Also when I paid I only had a 50 and a 20 and was promised change. They tried to blow me off but I mentioned it again when I was leaving and after first playing dumb madam Violeta coughed up the 10 pesos. Furthermore I was charged 2 pesos for condoms. They provided two but I only used one so I took the second one. This provoked a comment from Natalia but I said, hey, I am fresh out of condoms and you never know when you might need one and plus I don't have to pay for them anyplace else I go so tough shit.
Neutral recommendation on this place. Fine if you are in the neighorhood and in the mood, but don't go out of your way.
Then I went to Nuevo Estilo at night and met up with two fellow mongers. The cover was only 10 instead of the 15 they've been charging me on the weekends. Antonela was on me like white on rice as soon as I walked in, along with play pal Pamela. Blond waitress (I remembered her name last night but can't right now) has been taking English lessons and I was impressed how much she had learned in the three weeks since I'd been there. Oh it's Valeria. Tried to talk fellow monger into banging Antonela but he was saving up for someone special or something like that. We left pretty early and went to Madaho's. That was my first time in a Recoleta club. There were lots of good looking women there but I was drained and empty and could only have been revived by perhaps Antonela or definitely María ... so I left after paying for one 25 peso beer. 25 pesos for a beer is just flat out unacceptable to me, especially after paying 5 pesos at Nuevo Estilo.
And of course I stunk of cigarette smoke when I returned home. I like the show at Nuevo Estilo and I like the band that plays at Hooks but by and large I think the club scene is a waste for a Dickhead like me. I'll go with other mongers just to be sociable but give me 3221 Guemes or María or Alejandra the hooker in my building any day of the week over these smoky and overpriced clubs. Just my opinion. I have five more days to go and about 350 pesos left in the hooker budget. I'll do favorites María and Antonela and try to break some new ground one other time.
It's been fun.
Jaimito Cartero
08-12-03, 15:00
Pro - You mentioned you got fake bills. I think Exon had gotten one when I was there, but I wonder where you got such a large quantity from?
Is it the feel of the money, or just the printing quality that gives it away?
I seam to get counterfit money everytime I go to B.A.--- And the last time was no exception --- Becareful with the cab drivers and making change in the clubs since that seams to be the main places for exchange --- $10 & $20 ar. bills are what are most common and I can't tell the difference --- I tried to pay my bill at Monaco's in Recoletta one night and Walter the bar tender, (great guy) threw a $10 note right back to me saying no good --- I asked and he showed me why and I still couldn't tell the difference --- Some of them are a real work of art --- Long story short, I passed the bill off latter in some other exchange to someone else and they couldn't tell either ---- Exon
JamesBond69
08-12-03, 19:15
Originally posted by johnguapo
I know it's early , but I am planning three weeks in BA during the holidays and was wondering if there will be another Thanksgiving dinner/party for the mongers. If so, then I will be there a couple of days early to visit with the fellow AMA members.
Also James Bond... I had the pictures developed of your Hillary Swank look alike from Hooks and will email them to you tmorrow. That was a fun night... Looking forward to BA as I am tired of the Mexico skank scene. Saludos.
Caramba. Sr. Guapo, the mad researcher and founder of the Clarin Project returns to BA!!!!!
Look forward to the photos of me and Swank and even more, to another AMA Thanksgiving Dinner, sin video por supuesto:-)
The fake bills are color photo copies and can look pretty good. To tell, you have to hold them up to a light and look for the hidden face in the blank section. One of the fakes HAD a face, but a pretty poor looking one. I paid for some groceries with a 100 peso note and received a 20, 2 tens, 2 fives and a bunch of 2s . . . all fake. I think it was at the Hong Kong Chinese grocery store on Suipacha, but Im only 80% sure.
The locals here tell me not to trust the Chinese or Peruvians (or the locals...). A generalization to be sure, but like the idiot I am I mentioned this to Flor (Peruvian) at my apartmernt the other night and she broke down crying. Completely lost it. Had to do some serious ass-kissing to make it up to her - mission accomplished with gusto. But no matter where you go, one group hates another. Here they seem to dislike Chileans and Peruvians, but like Uruguay and Paraguay . . . although Uruguay claims Carlos Gardel which pisses off a lot of locals. Go figure.
Had a low rent 3-some last night. 50 pesos each for a total of 100. Met a former friend on the street with her girlfriend and I HAD a 100 pesos in my pocket so . . . Actually we all had fun, but this is NOT my normal operating technique. What is happening to me? Im sliding deeper in to the gutter following the footsteps of DickHead . . . I will need a 12 step program when I return to the US . . . -P
Originally posted by Dickhead
....Second one was Natalia....She looked a little dikey so I decided to fuck her...
Now here's the Dickhead charm!..thanks, as you grew accustomed to BA life, your posts became a little, ah, mellow, a little too normal... I've been waiting to bust a laugh for a while ;-)
Originally posted by Lexton
In a quest to try to find more chicas I like and look around Buenos Aires, I have started looking at the various bars not mentioned in the forum...........................
Lexton,
Thanks for a nice scouting report.
Bandy
Last night I did my good deed for the year and showed María how to use the internet, and got her a hot mail account. But I'm not giving her e-mail address to any of you sick fucks.
And PK get your ass out of the gutter and start being the class act you always used to be. Buenos Aires is a big city but not nearly big enough for two Dickheads. Quit screwing those street walkers and go to the opera like a good boy.
Originally posted by Yeah Baby
As for renting cell phones, I recently ask Mayri the rental costs for cell phones and I was told that it was 10 Arg. pesos a day which entitled you to ten minutes a day and any additional minutes would be charged at a rate of 1 Arg. Pesos per minute. Hope this helps.
I ordered a cellphone through Mayri when I was there. I think the company was Al-Tel. As with all cell phone services there were a lot of hidden charges. The final bill for 10 days of use was around $400 pesos. But that included 2 or 3 short calls a day to the U.S., at $1.00 USD per minute.
It was a nice convenience, but not really worth the money. In BA you are never more than a few steps from a locoturio where you can make local or long distance calls for a fraction of that. Unless you have an urgent need for people to reach you directly, you're better off saving your pesos for the chicas.
Guillermo
When to Pippers Club last nite. Located almost next to Hook and Catto on the same side of Suipacha. 25p drink with snacks and 20p for the girls. Were 8 ladies(?) and 3 guys. Went with Paola, 23 yo morena for 120 pesos. OK, but a little chubby when I finally got her unwrapped. Nice girl, nice experience. No rush. Im sure many of you would find her below the "hot" standard, but OK. Thought the place was pretty good . . .
After 6 girls in 5 days Im about a quart low. Think Ill give it a rest tonite. Not the man I used to be . . .
-P
Guillermo makes a good point about cellphones. It's difficult for me to be in BA without a cellphone because I'm always in town when some of my amigos are in town. Since I'm always on the go and rarely at my apartment a cellphone is essential to keep up with other guys.
If you're in BA alone or don't have a big need to hook up with guys then a cellphone isn't critical. However, if you're renting an apartment most of them won't let you call long distance including cellphones and if you're scheduling a lot of appointments then you'll need a cellphone to call them unless you call them from an internet cafe. (This is another way Roxana can save you money....by not having to keep calling girls cellphones all day).
Look at your cell phone bills closely no matter who you rent with. Sometimes they pad the bill. Always look at the total # of minutes that was on your cellphone before you start using it and then after. Altel is based out of Panama out all places. $400 pesos sounds way too much unless your calls to the USA were longer. Altel also has a minimum usage charge of I think 10 pesos a day.
I rented a cellphone for a month last year and the bill at the end of the trip wasn't pretty.
It's good to hear that everyone is having fun in BA. I went to Piper's Pub one night earlier this year and my amigo and I were literally frightened by some of those girls. The one thing I recall the most was I asked the doorman in Spanish if there was any hot girls in there. I told him to be honest. He said, "no..amigo but take a look anyway". Ha!!
Have fun.
[Maria]
Last night fellow monger J convinced me to go clubbing again. We started at Hook's at 11 30 which is a bit early for there. Immediately Paraguya Yessica was there with sad beagle eyes asking why I never had called her. I told her the truth, that I had lost her number. I actually was wanting to call her last week. Now I probably won't have time so if anyone fucks her please buy her a nice meal since I said I would cook for her. She has a very nice ass and nice legs.
But monger J wanted to look for some half Asian gal he met in Catto's on a previous trip so we moved next door. In Catto's the women were better looking than the other times I have been there. But who wants to watch a male singer? Anyway I chatted with Prokofiev's Flor from Perú and was thinking about fucking her when J said he wanted to check out Periplo's and the blonde bartender. I suggested maybe Crocodillo's instead since info on that place has been requested. I said Periplo's was only a few blocks away and we could walk. Now let me just say that J may not be quite as much of fitness buff as I am ... I soon realized I was confusing Suipacha with Florida so we did take a cab much to J's relief.
Blonde bartender Barbi was indeed there and looking good. Her eyebrows are quite dark and I think she is not a real blond but I would like to find out for sure some day. There were a lot of dogs in that place too. Probably the two best looking in the place were what appeared to be a true blond with kind of an orange tone to her skin and a fake redhead. We began to chat with them and it wasn't long before J said he was set for the evening and that the blond had made him an offer he couldn't refuse. I hope he doesn't wake up with a horse's head in his bed. I wasn't too interested in the red head but i remembered monger E's admonition that I needed to break some new ground and not just fuck the same five or six girls all the time. She wanted 100. I said 100 pesos is fine. She said no, dollars. I said look I have been living here for two months so let's stop that shit right now. She said "the minimum here is 200 pesos." I said I would not pay that much. She began to pout and said "You want to pay me 100 pesos" I said, well I can pay you a little more that that but I can't pay you 150 because I have to pay for the hotel. She said the hotel was 30 so we settled on 120 and off we went.
I disrecall or have unremembered the name of the hotel but I think it is down the hill on San Martin from Periplo's. Anyway it is close and was fully adequate with the sealed pack of towels, condoms, and other toiletries. Redhead wanted to do a lot of washing first, which is fine. Then she said she had a confession to make: "I forgot your name." Well, I had forgotten hers too which is rare. Now I am thinking maybe I never asked her; I do that deliberately sometimes but usually in a brothel and not a club. Anyway her name is Carina, 35 years old, from BA province. She had garlic breath so I offered her some breath drops, which she declined. I said no you are going to use them because you ate garlic for dinner. She was a bit perturbed by this but complied. It didn't really help; it was like garlic with mint sauce.
Decent BBJ but my question is: why are so many of these women down here "sidewinders"? I want the girl between my legs and not curled up fetally. So then we fucked for a while which was just OK. I started to lose interest so she went back to the blow job. I was getting more interested and thinking about giving her a facial but she started spitting into the towel with increasing frequency. Finally she ran to the bathroom and began rinsing and spitting, rinsing and spitting. I don't think she puked but maybe she did.
End of session. She blamed it on the large Tia Maria that she had consumed straight. Oh, thanks for buying so many drinks J. I think I was only allowed to buy one. Therefore I cannot report how much chicas' drinks cost at Periplo's.
Not recommended. Periplo's was closed when we got back and she asked me to pay for a Remis ride to the provincias. Not bloody likely. I think I will have a healthy dose of María tonight to recover from the trauma of the experience.
Mickey Mouse
08-14-03, 22:11
Hey DH,
Your experience was aces compared to mine. Mariana´s offer was so good, I thought she was going to put a horse's head in my bed. First it was the old Dollar, not Peso trick. When that was cleared up, it was the "Pay up front" line, then .... That´s it, 3 strikes, You´re out of here!
So, I was in such a good mood I decided to try Ciceron´s (next to Affaire). After a couple drinks (which I did not need) I thought I would get adventurous and bring back 3 girls for a foursome. After some extensive Skin Diving for 2 hours, 2 of them left while 1 decided to stay for the rest of the night. When I awoke around 9:00 am for my am delight, she was gone along with the rest of my Peso from my pockets and the hotel's cell phone. Good thing I keep everything in the Hotel safe except for the night´s spendings. I usually have 1 night that stands out and I hope that was it.
Don´t worry DH, I´ll be taking good care of Jessica tomorrow.
Stories of the Good will follow. Special hellos to Exon, Jak, Elvis, FB & others. Hey Exon, want to share Fabiana's no. with me? Hey Elvis, the 1/2 Asian is not around, but plenty of new talent to keep me smiling.
Well, I had a nice session with María last night to rinse the prior night´s mediocre experience from my mind. I have to say that out of the hundreds and hundreds of hookers I have met in my 31 year mongering career, she is without a doubt my favorite. I was very sad afterwards. While I am serving my four to five month sentence (penance?) in the US, I will remember her in her high black boots, bombachas, and nothing else, saying "¡Aprovéchate ese mujer!"
Anybody wants to go to Nuevo Estilo tonight, backchannel my hot mail account: richardhead41. Or maybe we should check out Cocodrillo´s.
Planning first trip to BA in Sept. Are there any places (Termas) like in Rio that anyone can recommend. I will be staying at the Crowne Plaza hotel. Are there any good chica establishments near there? If anyone wants to hook up the 29th or so of Sept let me know.
thanks
Mickey Mouse
08-15-03, 15:49
After having recovered (not fully) from the night before (the King is aware of the problem child), I had dinner with a couple fellow mongers then proceeded to Madahos in search of a new adventure. Found a lovely named Magnolia, Brazilian and full of promises for complete satisfaction. OK, the fact that she made sure I was aware of her pierced tongue and hood had nothing to do with me saying yes to 200 peso for this night´s encounter. Baloney! Yes, she knows how to use it and restored my faith in Brazilian women.
Today, a get together w/ Jessica (thanx DH), then dinner and off on the hunt again now that I have fully recovered!
[Maria]
Went to Calle Florida last night and was told that Maria had left with some worthless American dog . . . just my luck. I should have checked the Forum first. Her friend Andrea asked me if I was in love with her! Well yes, at least with part of her . . . Told me I should go with her for 70 pesos and that Maria would not be angry. Didnt feel like spending the time and extra cash in a club so I accepted her offer. She kept pumping me for info about Maria. Strange. When I finally got her home and unwrapped, I had this sense of Deja VooDoo. Her body and face seemed so familiar. Kinda spooky . . . Then it dawned on me. Hermanas? No, but primas!
Andrea is 27, Morena, a little shorter and not quite as attractive IMHO as her cousin, but in their birthday suits are very similar. Unfortunately, she lacks the skill set of her younger cousin. But acceptable. After explaining that they were indeed cousins, she wanted to know if she was as good as Maria . . . and seemed confused as to why some men repeatedly went out with her. I didnt want to tell her the truth . . . that her cousin can deep-throat a telephone pole and make a dead man come.
DickHead may be half crazy, but he´s right about this woman. Maria not only has "crazy skills" but the desire and 6th sense to give pleasure. She can map out your entire nervous system in 15 minutes. And every time I have been with her (5) she has added a new twist. Gone a little bit further. So much so that I worry a bit about her state of mind. We all have certain limits and she is pushing mine. Her seemingly insatiable desire to please me, no matter what it takes is a little disconcerting, especially as a pro . . . I tend to over-think these things, but damn! She definitely DOES do windows, among other things. Sets a new standard for professional work.
That is very interesting about the cousin. However María did not "leave with me" last night but rather came directly to my place from hers, all freshly showered and with her pussy just a little more trimmed than last time.
María's innate desire to please epitomizes what I have seen, known, and loved in some Mexican women but not yet in any other Argentineans. Yes, it is a bit servile and no, it would not be politically correct in the USA and maybe it has a bit to do with having actually BEEN a servant for a while (we talked about that some last night).
Now some gals have their own ideas about just what to do while others have no imagination but will do whatever you ask them to do. María has both of these qualities. You can just lie there and let her do whatever she wants, or you can say "okay do this, now do this, now do this, a little bit harder, a little bit softer, oh yes more of that please and now try this for a while." I tend to do the former more than the latter since I am a worthless no good lazy fuck but either way it is great.
You get all of this and plus she is easy going, sweet, and HUMBLE. Too bad she is a low down nasty dirty dangerous street walker instead of working in some fancy club like a decent hooker would do (please note sarcasm here). Does the phrase "low overhead" mean anything to anybody??
Personally I am more worried about PK's state of mind than I am about Maria's right at the moment.
Oh, and on another note she says she knows Barbi the blond bartender from Periplo's very well and she is a definite lesbian who hates men.
The technology does not currently exist to produce a machine calibrated in small enough increments to measure the amount that I want to return to the United States.
Last night I visited several clubs with the amigovia in tow. She begged me for one fun night to forget about all of her problems. I advised her that J and I were going to look for chicas (previously she had told me she had plans for the evening) and she said waah waah I don't care and I want to go anyway please please so fine.
We met J at Cocodrilo's. Someone posted the address as 1131 Gallo. It is 1311. That, coupled with the fact that the cabbie took him to Callao and not Gallo, led J to be a bit tardy but he is an intrepid sort and managed to finally find the place.
This place blows as far as I am concerned. Perhaps we were a bit early but at 1 AM a few chicas were arriving and there was I think only one other guy there. It is so dark in there you can't see whether the chicas are cute or not. 20 pesos for a beer, 20 pesos for a Coke, 20 pesos for water. No cover. No show. No nothing. Boring.
Next stop was Approach downtown on San Martin between I think Paraguay and Marcelo T. 5 pesos cover which we refused to pay, threatening to go to Hook's instead. 25 pesos for J's Absolut vodka and I don't know how much for my beer and amigovia's Coke because he sneakily paid while I wasn't looking. Thanks. Mostly Dominicanas in here and mostly a bit chubby. Certainly some doable. Chatted with one for a while but didn't want to buy her a drink for I think it was 25 pesos but maybe it was 30. Previously I have seen some pretty good lookers in the window seats her, not Dominicanas, but they were not in evidence last night. Amigovia danced a bit, we had our drinks, and we left. Prior to leaving we chatted with the quite ugly and largely edentulous proprietress, who asked why we weren't staying. I can't remember what we told her.
Amigovia actually was the one to suggest Kurvos on the grounds that they had a show and that she knew a couple of the girls there. Kurvos is on Suipacha between Cordoba and Paraguy. This place was better. No cover and drinks were 12 pesos. Hook's has Quilmes for 12 pesos also but this is marginally better because it is bottles and not cans. That beer is terrible but less so if not out of a can. Finally actually managed to buy J a drink.
On stage was a totally naked and quite nice looking blond but unfortunately her show was ending as we were arriving. Other chicas danced on the stage but did not strip. That made no sense to me; as I said to J, "Quit the grinnin' and drop the linen." I used the amigovia as a shield against the marginally attractive chicas while J intercepted the more attractive ones for chats. I don't think he bought any of them drinks so I can't report on chica drink prices. After a while the blond reappeared, cutely dressed in a long rugby shirt. J negotiated with her for 100 pesos but she said she had to go dance someplace else and would be back in 20 minutes. So, this club is owned by someone who owns another club. My guess would be Monte Carlo.
Anyway J said he would wait thirty minutes but not more. He left at that point and said if she reappeared before we left to give her his hotel phone number. She didn't reappear before we finished our second drink so we left. The amigovia can really hold her Coca Cola, I must say. This blond would definitely be worth fucking for 100 pesos. Other than blond, kinda short, and nice tits I can't really give a description and I didn't get her name. Maybe J could post her name.
Amigovia and I figured we would head home but we got waylaided into a rather interesting place some other guys should check out. It is called Snob and is on Cordoba on the side of the street towards Paraguay. I think it is the 800 block. I think maybe 859 Cordoba.
I am not sure what this place is. It just opened up a little while ago. I remember getting a card for it saying it was for people 30 and over but the card we got last night didn't say that. It is a big place with three levels. At the main level bar there was a dance floor playing quite danceable tunes; rock, pop, some oldies. Bored with beer, I inquired as to the price of Jameson's which got me a dirty look from the amigovia. She thinks I drink too much and gets scared when I start hitting the hard stuff. Tough shit. Quoted 25 for Jameson's. Beers were quoted at 15. I acted like I was having a tough time deciding and bartender offered to give me the whiskey for 20 so I took it. He poured me a hell of a big drink, spilling whisky all over the bar and laughing his ass off. 15 for Cokes as well.
There were a lot of couples making out in this place. I think maybe swingers could go here. A brunette who was built like a brick shithouse approach me and the amigovia and asked if we were a couple. I said we had an open friendship. She pointed to some other hot woman and asked me what I thought of her. I said she was nice but her tits were fake. She said hers weren't and whipped one out right there at the bar. She asked me if I wanted to buy her a drink and said it was just the same price, not like buying "chica drinks." 15 pesos for whatever she drank; I can't remember. Wine, maybe? Anyway she was interested in a threesome but I have no interest in those. I put my hands all over her and her body was very nice. Amigovia just stood there smirking. She asked me if I wanted to leave with her but I said no, I promised my friend I would stay with her and dance.
Danced with the amigovia a while and then this same gal cut in and I danced with her for one dance. I was grabbing everything I could reach and she was rubbing herself all over me. Her name is Miera and her body is smoking hot. She then disappeared. We left shortly thereafter, after I had a second Jameson's which finally got me to the buzzed stage.
So I don't really know what the story is on this place but it was different and kinda interesting. I don't think any of the women there are "house" women but I could be wrong. There are couches downstairs and some people were having sex on them, oral sex anyway. BTW there are rooms at Kurvos.
That was Friday night and it was a budget buster for sure. Spent close to 150 pesos and did not get laid which makes no sense in the Dickhead scheme of things. Amigovia was complaining that I smelled like whiskey so I told her she was an ungrateful hag and didn't fuck her either.
StudPlayer
08-16-03, 15:12
Ok, here is one for you guys to check out. I learned about it from a local Porteno who I chatted with on the internet while playing a board game.
Henry Bean's is the name in English and apparently it is known by its English name. En Espanol es "Henricito Acevedo", pienso. And I remember the "Bean's" part was not "frijole" but another word for bean and I think it was "acevedo". Hope I am not revealing someone's favorite private haunt.
Anyone ever hear of it? Anyone ever been there? I will see you guys in a few months while I am checking out Latin America for a new place to live after I extricate myself from Los Angeles.
[Maria]
[Maria]
Went back to Calle Florida like a hooked crack head last nite. Met Maria and had a "twilight zone" moment. After a while, it´s tough to separate the bullshit from the truth from the lies . . . whether in a club or in the street . . .
Maria, did you talk to your cousin last night? - What cousin? - Andrea. - Huh? You mean Andres? - No your prima Andrea, with the twin boys! - Andrea is my sister! And she doesn´t have children. This will be her first. - Her first? - Yes, don´t you know she´s 5 months pregant and will be married in 2 weeks? She didn´t say a thing about you . . . Wait! No me digas. Are you telling me that instead of waiting 5 minutes for me, you ran off with my pregnant sister? After spending the week with chicas from Catto and Ness???? (Thanks, DH)
A "special street moment" to be sure . . .
Couldn´t you tell she was pregant? Why do you think she only does oral? - LONG PAUSE . . . No me digas! You fucked her? The doctor said no!!!!!
I don´t know what to believe. Some of these ladies (most?) can BS with the best. And I can be gullible - despite a lifetime of experience. Once you start going with the same chica several times, you quickly realize things are not always as they seem. Take it all with a grain of salt . . .
But none of the girls here have ripped me off in any fashion. After getting that load of fake bills, I keep them randomly scattered on my kitchen table with some other junk, like bait. Just to see if someone might pocket an extra 10 or 20. Either they are all honest . . . or they all can spot fake bills! Can´t be sure . . .
Peace -P
Originally posted by Dickhead
Oh, and on another note she says she knows Barbi the blond bartender from Periplo's very well and she is a definite lesbian who hates men.
May very well be, but she's anyway on the program (or was), if even only selectively. Just be sweet to her and I think she'll play (for pay)... not that she's all that great in the sack anyway...
[Maria]
Originally posted by Prokofiev
Wait! No me digas. Are you telling me that instead of waiting 5 minutes for me, you ran off with my pregnant sister? After spending the week with chicas from Catto and Ness???? (Thanks, DH)
I promise you I never said shit to her about you going to Catto's and Ness. I would never do that to a fellow monger. Remember, she knows all the tarjeteros and it's a pretty safe bet she knows the doormen too. A thousand spies with a thousand eyes.
My God, what if she has found out about the forum? She said she had some friend helping her use the internet so it is certainly possible.
What a weird story. Could you really fuck a girl who was five months pregnant and not notice it? Doesn't seem possible to me. Plus Maria is 27 also (I saw her documento) so how could they be sisters? Unless the other one lied about her age? And why would she do that?
PS you would have waited a LOT longer than 5 minutes.
With an overspent budget, a raging hard on, and very little ambition to go on a search mission, what's a monger to do?
Answer: fuck the hooker in the building again. She likes me because I always bring her an alfajor. This time she allowed a little more kissing but she wasn't into playing with the Pocket Rocket. She had some friend there at the apartment this time (last time too) but she says the gal is just a friend and that she really, truly is working alone in the apartment.
Anyway if you need a cheap screw she is pretty good. I got my bus ticket and have set aside the cab fare to the bus, the exit tax, and the bus fare to get home from the airport in the US. I have a little over 100 pesos left. Saturday is a dead night for the clubs but if anybody has any bright ideas they can call me at 4381-3815. Keep in mind if the amigovia answers that she doesn't speak English. Just ask for el americano since I don't feel like posting my first name here.
Dickhead - Cocodillos ususally doesn't start going until very late. I haven't been there in a while but I'm sure not much has changed. Try hitting it after 2:30 AM or closer to 3 AM. Several of the girls from the clubs would hit it after work. I know a few girls that work in various clubs and they still go there after work. Alot of these girls are still wired from all the caffeine they drink to stay awake and many many of them use cocaine. It's sad to hear but many girls have to get drunk and high to do what they do. Just the other day I talked to a girl that works at Madahos and she OD'ed on cocaine. Her son that was living with her had to be sent back to Brazil to live with family. When I asked here why in the world she was doing cocaine she told me it's the only way that she can bring herself to do what she is doing. :( Kind of sad to think about.
Prokofiev - Dickhead is a self proclaimed Dickhead but I wouldn't be too quick to blame him for telling the girls. He is right. These girls have a network of "spys". I'm astonished sometimes how they find out things. You can't trust these girls that much. They will say whatever is in their best interest.
[Maria]
Originally posted by Dickhead
What a shame. And to think you were just two blocks from María's post where .....................
Can I know exactly where Maria have the apartment (or maybe is a SW). Seems like a very interesting girl. More than one person seems to like her in many ways.
Thanks.
A tale of two evenings....
First a big thanks to Roxana, she made a date for me with a lady named Roymena from Platynum. This lady is not 22 yrs old, but her figure is extraordinary and her physical beauty is only exceeded by her personality. We had a wonderful dinner at a romantic resturant, and Roymena speaks very good English, and was helpful in my attempts to learn a little Castallano.......after dinner back to the hotel we went and proceeded to explore the depths of human sexuality that one doesn't often enjoy( at least this human).....LOL . In my mind I can still see the curve of her back and the lines of her legs.........among other things.....ahhh.
Well that is were the good part of the story ends....kinda....
It was relatively early and I was drained, but didn't want to "miss out" on a good time, so I heard from "The "J One" that there were a few Americanos at Madahos...imagine that....LOL He had found his "chica de noche" and was headed home.
Not being easily deterred I thought that I would have a couple of drinks and enjoy the scenery, etc.
Shortly after I walked in the door I saw my favorite "bartendress", Slyvana, and after asking again if she would work the other side of the bar and being told "no" again, I took my cervasa, and went "in search of", I looked around for my favorite "Chica", but didn't see her and was promptly introduced to Tatiana....now this gal has a face similar to Demi Moore in the short hair mode, an average body, with a cute butt......and she speaks English....she said she learned from watching movies and I believe it because she can't read it or write very much.....but I digress......I told her that I wasn't interested in taking someone out of the club that night...( at least not yet), but she was friendly and I agreed to sit awhile and eventually agreed to buy her a drink.......my first mistake.........I was going to pay in cash, but she said , "No wait until you leave....".....my Radar wasn't working to well.....
A friend of hers was walking by and she invited her to sit down....now this girl is incredible, tall, dark hair, red lips, and a healthy ( not fat) figure that made me want to get a ladder and explore......her name is Michelle, and she said it was her second night working at Madahos....(not in the business), so Tatiana asks me to buy her friend a drink......notice a pattern here.....I didn't....duh!
I guess I wasn't paying enough attention, but everytime I went to the banos, it seemed that Tatiana glass was refilled.... and Michelle seemed a little uncomfortable when I noticed.......Peter Colombo I am not on this night......
In a little while another friend walks by and Tatiana asks if she can sit......she had just returned from a date and was also a friend "not just from the biz" I was told. Her name is Vicky a curvy, blonde with a great set of aftermarkets and a phyne a$$, and yes you guessed it I bought her a drink as well. Now this isn't all bad...yet...... I have three beautiful ladies chatting, laughing, rubbing on me, and in general I am enjoying the "attention", although I am clueless as to what is really happening.....
Well it gets really interesting, because I look up and there is the chica I have spent a couple of nights with from Madahos and the one I was looking for earlier........I know this a "business", but I really enjoyed this girl and I could tell that she wasn't pleased, and to be honest...all of a sudden I wasn't having as much fun either.....
I decided that the night was over for me and asked for the check.....and now the fun really begins.....I could see Michelle kind of back up when the waiter brought it and Tatiana moved away just a bit as well.......I won't go into details, but let's just say that I got screwed twice on this night and the second one was done sans the lube........
I am not a rookie, but I made a rookie mistake...., I should have been more perceptive and more forceful when I said no more drinks.......a classic case of not wanting to hurt someone feeling's or seem "cheap"
Tatiana collected a few drink slips that night, but she lost a customer........and hopefully someone will learn from my error....
The thing that really frost my cookies is that I knew all about this from reading this board and let it happen anyway.......
I guess a fool and his money syndrome.....but no mas'.
I will tell you this, if you want to enjoy an evening with a lady, give Roxana a chance to set something up for you. She is as perceptive and resourceful a lady as I have ever met.....I have been well rewarded for my trust in her recommendations on every occasion.
I will keep going to Madahos, Pretty Woman ,etc, because there is an electricity in the air in those places that is as close as this male has gotten to nirvana.....but I won't ever allow myself to be taken again.....and if you meet Tatiana...tell her I said "Hello".......
Now all I have to do is convince the bartendress to let me take her "home".......A worthy quest.....LOL
Sky Ryder-
Tatiana is to be avoided at all costs! A true drink ****! She's smooth. Without going into details, I am embarrassed to say that she got me for three drinks over two nights and was going for four when I finally blew her off. I can imagine how you were drawn in by her. I never left with her, but I can only imagine she has some tricks up her sleave when she goes out with a guy. Speaks good English, has been in the business for several years. I met her briefly in Cicerons at the beginning of April before she went over to Madahos. Face like Demi Moore with short hair, but the body is slightly chubby. Says she's from Cordoba. Who knows. A snake!
Ah! the power of the internet....I can only imagine the first time someone meets her and she tries to order a drink with them and the response is......No Way ! I have read about you on the best information source on the internet......I bet she will be very surprised......
So, I am not the only one she has "hooked'......and your description is "right on", that's her......
Glad there are so many more ladies available and the majority of them very nice.....
I wish I could make the lunch on Monday.......sounds like fun.....
Sky
Super Unknown
08-17-03, 02:08
Sky,
I'm not sure if Tatiana is the short haired girl I've seen there. This girl is more like a Winona Ryder lookalike. Small tits, real short black hair average to tall in height and thin. Normally I'm not turned on by that, but she was doing something for me. Never did ask her name. Is there another short haired girl at Madaho's as well?
Originally posted by Sky Ryder
Ah! the power of the internet....I can only imagine the first time someone meets her and she tries to order a drink with them and the response is......No Way ! I have read about you on the best information source on the internet......I bet she will be very surprised
Sky Ryder,
That is the absolute worst thing you can say to a girl. Keep this information to yourself, and private among other guys, and do not mention it to the girls.
Moondog
Moon Dog,
I certainly respect your opinion, however I am curious how you arrived at your conclusion.
Maybe you are right that it would be imprudent to mention the name of the web site or make a direct connection to an individual, however I am not sure why it is not a good idea to let the ladies know that a reputation is can be a valueable commodity.
There is much discussion on this board and others about how not to be given, "the gringo price" as opposed to a better deal offered to "locals". I guess I thought that if the ladies were aware that some of us share information, they would be less likely to assume that our "gringo" status equates to uninformed......but I am willing to listen to comments. Perhaps there are other issues surrounding the ladies being made aware of the internet information that I am not considering.
Sky
[Maria]
Dickhead,
I believe Maria just turned 26, not 27. And Andrea will be 28 soon . . . so it is possible and I believe very likely. No, I could not tell anything about her being pregnant and she screwed like a mink, trying to compete with her sister. Maria does not know about the Forum, nor how to use the Internet nor how to use her new Email address, which we couldn´t seem to make work. The info she had was on a little torn scrap of paper and both the address and password seemed a bit complex. I woudn´t expect you to hear from her, but who knows.
I can definitely say that if all your posts are correct, that Maria has lied or "misrepresented" on several occasions. I have not called her bluff on this because 1- Don´t want her to know the depth or source of my info and 2 -Its no big deal anyway. These little lies are just part of the "life". I´ve been played "big time" by ladies in the past . . . this is nothing. Maria is 99% honest. And like private dectectives they can get info from anywhere, usually the guy himself. She simply sez, "Toro Rojo told me that . . ." And you correct her with, -No, I wasn´t with A, I was with B and shes got you. Everything Andrea told me was BS, except her name.
FYI, Maria works at the corner of Florida and Paraguay, after 9pm except for Sundays. Usually in the doorway of the shoestore that closes at 9pm. Tall morena with very long black hair. With a little make-up and a sexy outfit, she would be the equal of 90% or more of the club girls. Asks for 80pesos. Would probably accept less. I always give her 100. A unique and fascinating girl . . .
I never mentioned the WSG to any of the chicas I met, but it was interesting that several of them had mentioned Jackson and his site out of the blue when just having conversation. One of them said he has his own escort service (perhaps referring to the chicas pictures in this section). The point is, I think a lot of the chicas already know that a lot of us communicate with each other. To be on the safe side, I'd probably tell a chica like Tatiana that some guys I was talking with said she is untrustworthy and to be careful not to buy her any drinks. If asked further I'd just say I was talking with some guys at another club about the chicas here and her name came up. Just let her know that guys talk and she has a bad reputation. Then I would turn around and walk away.
I think there is value to letting the chicas know that we talk and their reputation is worth something. As far as letting them know that they have a bad reputation on the WSG - I think this does make for a good discussion.
Final night in Buenos Aires was a bit out of control. First Catto's which was good only due to the foxy blond singer who says she learned her English in White Plains, NY. Then Kurvos in search of the blond dancer. Inside info said she would return at 3 AM for a show so we then headed to Periplo's which had only a few women including my non-conquest of the prior night, Carina, who studiously avoided me. We chatted with some nice girls for a while. Blond Barbi was not there. Then we went to Snob with the stated intention of going back to Kurvo's at 3 to catch the blond.
Well Snob is insane. The big thing there is making out. My lips and tongue are sore. What is fun is to buy two girls a drink at 15 pesos each and then make out with one while feeling up the other one and then switch off. Making out on the dance floor is fun too. The bartenders are swell guys. One is from Russia and the other appears to be an albino who says he is Porteño but I have my doubts.
Monger J was a bit out of control and kept submerging to the lower level briefly with various chicas. He finally got cornered by some snake from Paraguay who appeared to me to be fucked up on drugs. But while he was making out with her I had my hand up her snatch ...
I had an older Argentinean gal who was an excellent kisser. J I thought said he was leaving with the snake and I thought I had arranged to go downstairs with the Argentinean for a blow job. The next thing I knew she had her coat on and was saying that J and friend were waiting in the cab.
Now J was perhaps a bit hammered and could not really direct the cab where he wanted to go. This was problematic for me because I had no idea where he wanted to go. I thus made an executive decision to take him back to his hotel. The snake wanted to do a foursome switcheroo thingy dingy but I don't go there so I accompanied the Argentinean back to civilization and went home.
I was a bit worried that J had been slipped something in his drink but the amigovia just ran down here and informed that he called and all is well so I will go call him now and see what the story is.
Sure enjoyed meeting and hangind with mongers Capital B, Hysteromania, Maddur, AndresG, and Mickey Mouse as well as stealth monger E and retired monger Fat Bastard. Sorry if I forgot anybody. I will be back in January and will take the city by storm.
Jak and Sky Ryder,
These girls are so networked together, it is amazing. No problem about telling them that another person told them about her via email or in person, but leave off the info about the WSG site, or other sites as well.
They do not need to know that as soon as they are with one of the guys here, that the entire world knows about it.
Moondog
Point well taken Moon Dog.
I was more interested in the girls knowing that we also have a network and if they "screw" one of us the ramifications may also affect their "reps" with other potential customers.
And also that if they take really good care of us that we will recommend them to our "friends", I mean it is only fair to reward the "good" ( a very subjective term) ones as well.
I can't wait until my next visit later in the week.
On a different subject is Periplo's the bar with "Globe and Bike", near the Marriott?
Where is Globe located (address)
Moondog's right but the one factor thats not mentioned is that most of the girls speak very little English let alone read English --- So the odds are still in our favior --- But our ladies really don't need to know about our board and its not going to due anyone any good to tell them --- Exon
OutoftheGame
08-18-03, 05:19
You guys are pretending that the girls are stupid. When I first went to BA we had about 10 of us. Some only hung out for a little while and others would band together on most nites. And alot of the nites Jackson would hang with us or we would run into him at the clubs. Now after a couple of nites the girls figure out who is who and if for some reason me and my buddy didn't go out with the rest of the mongers as soon as we walked into Madaho's the girls would show lead us to are other amigos. Now on top of that we are all from different parts of the US and are of different age groups. So I don't think they have a hard time figuring out how we all know each other.
I myself was asked by a girl how we all knew each other and I remember on one occasion when another American monger was in town and was looking for a certain girl. Well I guess this guy got introduced to her and starting asking her questions about things another monger had posted about his session with her. She was a little freaked out and came over to me to ask me if I knew the guy. We pretended to be walking to the bathroom and she pointed to him as we walked by. Well I didn't know who he was and told her that he might be friends with someone else that so and so talked to. I didn't want to tell her that the guy had read the story on the internet. I remember later telling this story to Jackson and was suprised that he had no problem in telling the girls about the website. Now I don't think he wants the address given to them but he thinks that if the girls are out to screw Americans they will be losing alot of business. I don't know what Jackson's feelings are on the subject now but I'm sure the girls are aware of us and I think it will only benefit guys from getting scammed.
How else would a guy that has never been to BA know that he should pay $150pesos and not $150US. They might be working girls but they aren't dumb.
You guys all make good points. My personal opinion is to just say your amigo told you that this girl was a scam artist, wasn't good, etc. No need to say you read in on the world wide web or especially name the site you saw it on. They will get the picture after a while if guys constantly are avoiding them. However, the girls do know about the internet for the most part. Some don't but many that I talk to know about it. When I ask for pictures many will ask me if I'm going to post it on the various sites that have pictures.
These girls for the most part don't speak English but I've found that the girls in BA are far more computer literate than the girls in Brazil. There are tons more internet cafes in Buenos Aires than there are in Rio. It's also cheaper than it is in Brazil. I'm amazed at the number of girls in BA that I have met that have their own computer. Also, remember that many advertise on www.escorts-argentina.com , www.platynum.com.ar or www.area-vip.com.ar or they know friends that do. So they know about the power of the internet.
Just use common sense. It usually prevails. Good luck.
Saint
Good points all. I agree that it most likely a good idea not to give out TOO much info. I was just looking for a way to make it known that the ladies are not working in a vacum. AS you say after a couple of gents tell them that a "friend" was less than complimentary, maybe a positive change will happen. If not at least we will be operating with better info. Who knows it may even slow down the proliferation of Gringo/Local pricing.........hey you have to have a dream.....LOL
See you gents later in the week.
Member #1148
08-19-03, 03:38
Finally, I can post. What a very stealthy ID I've been assigned. I've been planning a BA trip for the last several weeks. My buddy, we'll call him 'Bubba', and I will be coming to Argentina in September for two weeks.
We'll be traveling to Ushuaia and Mendoza as well as spending most of our time in BA. Have any of you ever taken 'company' with you on a 2 -3 day trip elsewhere in BA? Any reccomendations on rates, etc?
As this is the BA forum, I should mention that our plans to stay in BA have been solidified thanks to all of the help we've gleaned from this forum. I must make one bit of criticism that should hopefully make this place better for all of us. Let me explain. While I rather enjoy reading this forum (for far too many wee hour hours), it does seem to get rather confusing when one wishes to consolodate information. I've see requests come in from a newbie asking something such as "where is this club, how much, etc." - and the response is often "read the forums". Well, I've spent the time and read the forums and still wish there was somewhere on this site that would list (in one table ) club names, addresses, etc.. Perhaps another listing for restaurants, hotels, apartments (brothels), etc. While I'm a good reader, I'm a poor note taker. Often times I look upon my scribble and haven't a fucking clue.
I've managed to peice a half-assed list together, but it certainly could use some help.
Any suggestions?
The correct street number for Snob on Cordoba is 937.
Now that I'm back after 26 hours of travel (Uggh!) I'll post my final thoughts (like Jerry Springer's . . .)
It's clear to me that tastes vary. I met up with a few of the ladies mentioned in the Forum and they were not my cup of tea. All fine outstanding citizens to be sure, but not for me. Over all, I thought most of the women in the clubs, Exedra, Cafe Orleans and the street were quite attractive. All this talk of "none of them were doable" seems ridiculous to me. Compared to the US or Mexico or Spain, these women are very Do-able. And their ability to make love, make you feel at ease is simply amazing. Super attitudes and GFE's. I had read it, but didn't really believe it until I checked it out first hand. Very impressive indeed.
I'll leave you with my 3 top choices . . . which may or may not be what you are seeking.
#1 Maria. 27, Morena, SW on Florida. Special girl, special skills. 7 nights with her just wasn't enough. Price is right. An experience. Thanks DH for the tip of the century . . .
#2 Lila= Liliana 33, Morena, dark skin (tanning/lotions) @Catto
Very sweet woman. Good talker and speaks some English. Looks older which might turn-off some. Treat her right and she will respond with pure female passion. Excelent Greek available at no extra cost. 3 times with her was just enough to know the basics and that I needed more time with her. 150 pesos or less.
#3 Flor=Flor de Maria 30, Morena, Peru @ Catto. Speaks some english and dresses well. Seemed very classy to me. Talked with her a lot but only spent 1 night with her. A special nite. Warm, affectionate, a great kisser. Needed to explore her potential a lot more. She might be the best of all. 150 pesos
Peace, Your Friend, P
My top three choices are as follows:
1) Maria
2) Maria
3) Maria
3221 Guemes is also an excellent value.
El Ricardo
08-20-03, 23:43
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Prokofiev
[ Compared to the US or Mexico or Spain, these women are very Do-able.
Prokofiev,
I was intrigued by this remark of yours. I've been to BA several times and am considering a trip to Spain in late September. I was also considering taking a chica from BA but another monger tells me I'm nuts compared to what Spain has to offer. The posts on Spain look like the women in the clubs are mostly from eastern Europe of South America. What is your considered opinion?
ER
El Ricardo,
Having spent a lot of time in Spain over the past 3 years and having 2 great Spanish girlfriends, I would never tell you that Porteñas are better looking than Spanish women, not true. Plenty of attractive ladies in both places and somewhat similar in looks. Morenas with light colored skin as opposed to the darker skinned Mexicanas with indian blood. But you are comparing apples and oranges. Most all club girls in Buenos Aires can be had for 150 pesos which is a bit more than $50. Many attractive girls are 75-100 pesos or $25-35. And they will come to your apartment and stay between 1 and 6 hours, or until you kick them out. And will give 100% to you. Rather amazing . . .
Read my posts in Madrid and Barcelona. Women are available near La Rambla for 20 to 30 euro. But that is usually in an upstairs room for 15-30 minutes and 90% of these street women are unattractive, even by my rather liberal standards. (I like ALL women). And a GFE is virtually impossible under these conditions. Under Madrid, read about some of the high-class women,especially the posts of Buster HighMan and his friend Daisy. No doubt she is beautiful, but 300 euros = $325+ a pop. Attractive girls from 50-75 euros per half hour. Many 100 euro. The difference is huge. You will spend 2 to 3 times as much money in Spain for short-time (1/2 hr) quickies. Take my word, if you are traveling only for sex, BA is infinitely better. Much better sex at a much cheaper price.
As I wrote earlier today in the Living in BA section, I find Madrid and especially Barcelona more interesting as cities. More history, architecture, art, museums, music clubs, etc. But my apartment in Barcelona was $1000/mo. Here in was $440 with maid service. Restaurants are 2 to 3 times more expensive in Spain. A ticket to the opera- $75 in Barcelona $10 at Teatro Colon. Argentina is cheaper than Mexico right now. Absolute best bang for your buck.
Of course if you ARE going to Spain and the question is should I bring a BA girl along, well that's another calculation. Price of her ticket and food is going to be $1000-$1500 US. And that money could buy a lot of tail in Spain at $150 a pop.
Depends what youre looking for . . . Good Luck -P
El Ricardo
08-21-03, 10:49
Prokofiev,
Thanks for the information. Making this vacation decision should be an easy thing to do. What makes it difficult is that I'm negotiating with my work for a trip to Argentina in a few months and again in late winter. I think I've been spoiled by the lovely ladies of Argentina, and left to my own sexual urges would beat a regular path to BA! I've had some great times down there with the chicas and when I linked up with a group of mongers last February.
I've traveled to BA probably 12 to 14 times in the last three years, and visited various parts of the country. What I am trying to do is combine the best of both: Argentine chicas and new territory to explore. What makes it tempting is that I have all of these United frequent flier miles that I've been accumulating and don't know if I'll ever use them in United's lifetime! So, it seemed like a fun idea.
I appreciate the time you spend sharing your thoughts and experiences. Thanks again!
ER
FatBastard
08-22-03, 14:54
About 6 to 8 weeks ago a member wrote an excellent report om the process to obtain a visa to Brazil while in Buenos Aires. He gave info down to directions inside the embassy and what to type in the computer. Without any luck I have been trying to find it. Anyboby that remembers the date or members code name please let me know. I would like to go to Porte Alegre from BA around August 28th for about 4 days .Anybody interested in going along e-mail me at ezed@mindspring.com. Thanks.
Originally posted by FATBASTARD
About 6 to 8 weeks ago a member wrote an excellent report om the process to obtain a visa to Brazil while in Buenos Aires......
Look up Jak's report of 7/10/03 under the "General Info" section. A great report, if I may add.
Bandy
Well another enjoyable adventure in B.A. I was fortunate to have Roxana set up an appointment with Maria Christina of the Platinym site. She is a true "lady", but man when it is time to play, you had better have a seat belt. This lady is not for the timid. If your pleasures run to the more dominant type of lady with a lot of style and class.....she is your lady.
It was still "early" by B.A. standards, so I decided to do a little more "sightseeing". I was able to contact the "Pardrino of Recolletta", and we went to Play Woman. This was my first trip in this bar and as soon as I walked in I wanted to take the bartendress home with me.......try as I might.......was not to happen. There were about 20 ladies and two or three that really stood out. One blond that looked like she walked out a surfing magazine.........my goodness, tight tummy, great ass, and a nice pair of "bolt ons", and one other little gal in a "shredded dress" that looked worthy of a trial, but we decided to move up the street to Madahos. As soon as we walked in I saw Tatiana talking to a couple of English speaking gents, as it turns out it might have been Andres and his friend. She saw me, but I didn't say anything to her or the guys, after my experience last week.
It didn't take long before my ATF saw me and after a big kiss and a hug, I knew I was done with my search for the evening ( not a bad thing). I did get to meet the couple that owns the Platinym and other sights and enoyed a short chat. After a beer it was adios to Madahos and off to a few hours of blissful adult interaction.
I hope to try Exedra and a couple of other places next week and see what else is out there.
I would really like a couple of recommendations for a "massage" lady that might be willing to visit the hotel or if the office is a nice place, I could visit....
You guys should take a look at www.Argentinaprivate.com, all of the talent on that sight is "strong" and all has been test driven and received a good rating..........but of course the ever present YMMV
Re: finding a way to work in Argentina: guys, I think the simple answer for anybody that owns their own company in the US is to set up an office to work from in BA. The available technology makes it very easy to have an office in BA, especially if your job is telephone sales intensive. For example, you can have your calls to your US office transferred to your Argentinian "office" for zero cents, zero dollars! This is all done through the purchase of two $150.00 items available in Best Buys. They do require a high speed cable modem or dsl or braodband on both sides, however, but given that you have this, your phone in BA turns into literally an extension of your US phone system so when you pick up the phone in BA to make a call to the US you're making the call through your local US phone service for the same price that you'd make it if you physically made it in your US office. Ditto for faxing and obviously the email thing is the same anywhere you are.
I'm toying around with the idea of installing a small office in Argentina manned (really womanned) by an Argentinian national that speaks impeccably good English who could take orders from me that come into my US office, then place the purchase orders with my vendors here in the US and then electronically transmit an "invoicing order" so that an invoice is generated to my US customer. This same person could track mis-delivered packages and do many of the same, exact functions that an employee in my US office does. This same type of thing is happening rampantly all throughout the US. Everytime I call Compaq for tech support I'm calling an 800 number but an Indian in New Deli is taking my call. Also, Chase Bank has telemarketers calling me contantly from India offering me things via my Chase credit card.
Why shouldn't I play this game too and save myself a ton of money? My good Argentinian friend who is a great businessman too has told me that I could pull this off for about $1000.00 US per month including the rental of a small space for this employee and the employee's pay. I guess the trick would be finding someone who speaks impeccably good English but this weekend I realized that these people are available when I met a gorgeous British woman who had lived in BA for the last three years. Also, I'm convinced theat there's a sizable pool of people like Mayra and Roxana who speak impeccably well who could do these jobs.
What do you think fellow Mongers? DownBA
I have a question that I have not seen addressed on this board. Does anyone here have any experience with getting any action (paid or otherwise) at Tango clubs (Milongas) in BA? I will be visiting BA in the near future, mostly for tango dancing, but am interested in sampling the local delights, as well. Any thoughts or advice? TIA
Tanguero,
I'm not sure about Tango clubs but in general I think Buenos Aires is a lot like many other cosmopolitan cities around the world. Girls/women aren't just going to line up to be with you because you're American. They look at many of the same things women in general look at all over the world. How you present yourself, your personal appearance, your clothes, just the way you carry yourself. However, the girls there seem to be more open minded. There is a gentleness about the people of Argentina. Of course as many locals on the board have pointed out, some of them think they are way hotter than they are but that is part of their culture there. And I think many Americans also fall into this same category of believing that they somehow are better than other people because they are US citizens. I've never held this belief but I see silly tourists all the time that do exhibit this behavior.
I think most of the guys going down for quick vacations would rather take the sure thing. Although, I have met up with guys that took the time to try to meet up with normal girls. You have to keep in mind that some of the hottest normal girls won't let you just get in their pants. You have to nurture the relationship just like anywhere else in the world. Maybe even more so in Buenos Aires.
I've had good luck meeting normal girls there. I've taken out on dates 2 of those girls that hand out flyers of restaurants in Recoleta, one hostess of a restaurant and another girl. I've also corresponded with several on amigos.com. I had extremely good luck with amigos.com in the past but I found that it just got too time consuming. One super hottie from that site wanted me to meet her parents even before I met her! Most of the girls on that site are looking for a serious relationship with guys their own ages (18-35). Good luck.
P.S. Don't be afraid to do things you wouldn't do in the USA. Like one night before going to Black's my amigo and I were in Recoleta at La Biela cafe. At night it's packed with people eating dinner and drinking coffee. I saw two girls. One was hot and her friend was ok but nothing special. Anyway, I told my waiter that I wanted to pay for their drinks. It was right before I was leaving. The girls stood up and waved and said thank you. On a subsequent trip I ran into one of the girls and she remembered it.
Originally posted by Tanguero
I have a question that I have not seen addressed on this board. Does anyone here have any experience with getting any action (paid or otherwise) at Tango clubs (Milongas) in BA? I will be visiting BA in the near future, mostly for tango dancing, but am interested in sampling the local delights, as well. Any thoughts or advice? TIA
Things may have changed in the last 3 years, but as far as I remember young crowds are not prone to go to milongas (in fact, most patrons there are 40+y/o). Also I never read in Clarin or La Nacion an article related to "The new trends: single people meeting at milongas". Thus, I would doubt about finding many 20something gals from a milonga place.
Andres
MeGustaBoliches
08-26-03, 18:26
Tanguero and others,
I have been to two Milongas, one in Parque Centenario and the other in San Telmo. The median age in both locations was probably 45ish....there were a couple of younger couples, but they were a twosome and had come to dance and practice tango.....An interesting cultural experience, but not a place to pick up chicas.
On the other hand, I went to a place in Palermo Viejo that gave tango lessons and it was FULL of single women.....I was with a group and did not try to pick any one up, but women were lining up to dance with me (and I am nothing to brag about.....I was simply one of the few available guys)....
To continue with the pursuit of women, I had my first attempt at negotiations in Black last night (Monday). It went more or less the way I expected it might, which is not well. I think it does say something about how you might expect things to go in Black, so here it is. I have been to Black about 5-6 times, but because of the system never bothered to try negotiating. But I separated from my current favorite and am desperate to replace her.
I first went to Black on Saturday, on the theory there would be very few men. On this I was correct, but there were also fewer women, and none of particular interest. I then went to Black on Monday, on the theory that most of the women would be there, but fewer men. On this I was correct. Surprisingly, there was a big influx of women at about 1:00, including a darling I had seen in the past and have been wondering about.
The darling was wearing a simple black sheath that made her even more endearing, so after a few minutes looking/walking around to make sure I wasn't missing anything, I took her hand as she passed by. The reason she passed by is because I had been noticing her, making light eye contact. When I looked at other parts of the bar, I would return a look in her direction. Her radar had this spotted in about 25 seconds. I sat at the bar and bought a drink, still noticing her. After a few minutes, she walked by, making sure to be a second or two near me. I simply reached for her hand, and said hello. She stopped and came closer, and we talked.
After about 2? minutes, she asked if I would buy her a drink. Knowing this is required at Black, I said yes, and she ordered from the bartender. The drink was $50ar, so it is true the price is depending on the woman. She apparently could have ordered a drink for $80ar, as others have reported (and the manager has told me the value of the drink is up to her, from $25-$85ar). I suspect that this may be an indication of their level of interest.
We talked for a while, and I said I would like to go out with her. She asked for $400ar. I said this was too much. She asked what I thought, and I said I normally pay $200ar(which is generous, because it is often $150ar). She came down to $350ar. We talked a while longer, during all of which she bought another $50ar drink. She would not come down from $350ar. We never did talk about time or what we would do, so we were negotiating standard fare. As it became clear that we would not reach a deal, she asked for money for a taxi. At first I didn't understand what she was asking, I was so surprised. To me this showed no class, and I was disappointed in her. After refusing to negotiate under $350ar, don't panhandle me for $10ar for nothing. Of course, I didn't give it to her. I told her I had to think about going with her, because it was too much and wasn't fair.
At this point, I had spent $125ar and had little. When I left the bar, I left her on a good note, saying I still had to think about it. I also told her that the problem with Black is that the bar earns all the money, and explained the situation. By her reaction, I don't think she had thought of this before. The one thing I do have is a point of negotiation. I never have to spend $100 up front again with her, because in the future I can always say something like: "Is it worth talking about this again?" in the 2-3 minutes I can get before the drink police arrive. In theory, I only have to do a preliminary negotiation once with each woman of interest, and from then on it would be the minimum cost of $50ar, including to exit with her(plus my drink of $25ar).
But this is the problem with the Black system. For the bar, it is great. They really don't want the girl to leave. If she has a failed negotiation, she can do that more than once a night. She is not likely to leave more than once. Also, they prefer to have more women available in the bar, because the drinking customers prefer it. So they teach the women to negotiate high. But this is bad for the women, because they don't earn the money. So I really don't like it.
I still really like this woman and will talk again with her. I really don't care that much about the money as a one time shot with her. It really is more an issue of fairness. But if I like her, I will want to see her again, many times. Then the money is more of an issue.
My main point here is that in general, the Black system is hard to deal with, and you should consider how/if you want to deal with it.
The "Drink Police". That's great, I'm going to remember that one for future reference.
Thanks,
Jackson
MiddleAgeGuy
08-27-03, 11:18
Is there a Friday or Saturday night meeting of Mongs happening this week? I hope to pull free one of the nights as I arrive Friday and would join up. Which hotel, Etoiie, and time?
Thanks,
MAG
Ponce de Leon
08-27-03, 13:17
Lexton,
Good report. I don't know if you did it but you might try asking for her phone number and seeing her during the day. I did this several times and the girls saw me for going rates of other upscale Platynum or Area-Vip girls. IMHO, here is your problem in Blacks. A girl is really trying to land a "whale". Many clients are from next door staying at the Alvear Palace. They might be from the USA, Europe, Asia where high class girls go for the equivalent of $300 US an HOUR. So when a girl at Black's asks for $200 or $300 a NIGHT...these guys think it's a good deal. Many of them have no clue of the pricing structure in place. So, in the girls mind even if she clicks with you she is risking leaving for 200 pesos instead of potentially making $200 US. Yeah, I know in your head you're thinking, "but 200 pesos is better than nothing". Many of these girls aren't wired to think like that.
Also, you should know that girls will literally yell at other girls that charge what they deem to be too little. I've left before with girls that told me not to tell anyone what I payed because the other girls get mad and will yell at her. Don't just listen to my...ask other girls that you know that used to work there. I know one that works at Madahos now. She used to work at Blacks and all the girls used to hate her because she would charge so little. They would call her a cheap puta or a street girl. There is a whole mentality there with the girls to not accept less than a certain amount.
If you ask for her # and see her during the day she has no pressures and no girls to deal with. Most of these girls don't do jack during the day anyway. If they don't have kids they are just shopping or goofing off. I've been to a few of their apartments and they really just are resting for the night working.
I go into Black's less and less over the past year and a half but I always try to go in at least once on each trip to see how the turnover is. Good luck with your girl!
Ponce
Can someone please give me the web address of Jackson's private web site? He has a list of girls who go there and he has listed his apartment over there.
I want to see his list of privately recruited girls. I believe Roxana also recruited one girl over there.
I am interested in seeing this web site and the girls pics there. So please soneone give me Jacksons web site address. Thanks.
Yours humbly,
God of Sexual pleasures!
Sex_God,
The website is www.argentinaprivate.com
Dear ElRicardo, Andres, and friends,
Thanks El Ricardo for the info re Cordoba, I wish you remembered more specific details about location, girls, performance of the latter, and your spanish school.
Many thanks from Cold Cordoba, after a warm winter,
Bodhi
p.s. planning to visit BA soon
El Ricardo
08-28-03, 21:16
Originally posted by Bodhi
Dear ElRicardo, Andres, and friends,
Thanks El Ricardo for the info re Cordoba, I wish you remembered more specific details about location, girls, performance of the latter, and your spanish school. Bodhi,
Sorry I can't help with the location of the women, but here's the information on the school:
COINED/Casa de Lenguas
Artegas 220, Planta Alta
5000 Cordoba, Argentina
Telephone: (55-351)5422-6260
I liked this school a lot better than a sister school in BA.
ER
ps Have you had any success in locating chicas in Cordoba?
Lexton --- If your interested in the girl in Black go back and get her phone number and call durning the day --- After three or so because thease girls sleep that late --- Im sure she has a day time price more in line with were you need to be --- $200 pecos for a nooner is not out of line at all, but I wood ask for a full two hours and maybe lunch --- Yes you have invested in your friend ship with her but her price in the club is more than likely going to be different than her day time number --- Exon
MiddleAgeGuy
08-31-03, 11:57
I landed in BA on Friday morning, worked the day, felt a little exhausted and decided to try out the Peripleo bar (SP?). It took me 2 walks around the block given the helpful directions of others but there it was, a no name door with a small emblem of a guy riding a bike on top of the world above the door. It was early, maybe 8:30 or 9:00. The Capitan, who speaks German and English served a nice drink. 2 girls and 2 guys in there. A rather old English looking place. Well, decided what the hey and struck up a conversation with someone calling herself Mariana. Blondy-red, nice smile, freckles (pecas?) good little body, on up side of 30. She wanted P300, I reluctantly said OK to 200. Anything you want, kept trying to sell cula in the package , but I havè not tried that for 25 years or so, therefore, passed. A little 69, uncovered, uninspired really, then down to business. A little TV after, then she was going back to work, earn the buck.
Saturday off to Newport, saw the Mariana of my old reports, looking good, but I am saving up for an amiga Sunday, and another non-club girl later, juggling the two. Mariana said she only tried Blacks for a couple weeks and found the high price pressure too much, as someone else mentioned here earlier.
I am now in the strange situation where I am trying to avoid a couple clubs, one being a place where an offsite amiga works, another, where I know I'll be hounded to take her out and I am not interested, even though she is a wild ride. I will report more later.
MAG
Mickey Mouse
08-31-03, 15:28
It's been a couple weeks since my return, but I thought I would share a couple of the positive highlights I experienced while in BA this time.
1. Madaho's:
Hamady - Now I know where the Grand Tetons got their name from. A Cuban wonder, 100 % natural, who delivered in spades on 2 different occasions. 250 was my price and well worth it.
The feature dancer (sorry, I forgot her name) at Madahos was my guest one night and didn't disappoint. The drink was 100p, but the encounter was all and more for the same price as the other girls. A definite 2nd encounter on my next trip.
2. Hooks (Best Bang for the Buck):
Sasha - (150p, tln) New to the biz and very sweet.
Luci - (150p, tln) A Cuban Dynamo who is insatiable.
3. Snob (Cordoba 937):
What a place! Drinks are reasonably priced and a few cuties to choose from; but get this, I got 3 BBJ's in secluded spots in the bar from 3 different women for $O. They were just competing to see which one was coming back to my hotel with me for the night. Hey DH, that's what I was doing when I disappeared. And the winner was ... 150p for tln and and a great time. This place was Nuts!
4. Rosalia:
Yes, that's her name. A great massage for 50p (massage only) and she came to me. Oh did I forget to mention she also works at Black's (where I met her)! cell: 154-449-4297. Tell her Mickey said Hi.
5. Kurvas:
Reasonably priced drinks and a couple cuties again.
6. Cocdrillos: Too Dark & Seedy for me - Couldn't wait to get out of there.
7. Nuevo Estillo:
Loved the shows & a couple cuties, but didn't have a large selection in the drink dept.
And that's all folks! Until the next time,
MM
Pinche Guey
09-03-03, 00:37
Dearest Mongers,
Were do I begin? I've been studying abraod here in BA for almost 2 years and have moves through every corner of the BA nightlife. I've also been frequenting the reports on WSG since 1999- I thank you all for the info on Praugue, Poland, and most of Europe. It has also been my fortune that the reports in BA served me well during early days and it has been interesting reading the tales of Dickehead, Otto. et all. So without further delay I give my reports.
First the internet girls.
I believe they have quality girls on par with Blacks except I don't have to pay the crazy money for drinks, cab, hotel etc... This suited me and my student budget fine.
I fell in love with Area Vip. Yes their air brushed, but they still look good.
Yanina: NICE TITTIES!!!! Excellent boob job. Salacious ass!!! Her body actually looks better in real life. Total score:7 However, there is a reason why her face is covered up and it's because she looks aquatic. The silicon in her lips have that fishy look and on top of that she is one shade skin tone above albino. I don't think she is capable of tanning. Isn't that the case with albinos? The girl charges 200p for 1hr. This includes ass but no BBBJ. Real polite with a quite shy demeanor. Only able to have anal for a little while or "al toque."
Abril: She has small and thin figure. Real delicate. Is she good looking. In an Ally McBeal way. Her face is cute and the tiny figure is endearing, but she didn't rock my worlde. About a 7. Lives really close to Las Cañitas. She charged me 150p for an 1hr, but has to see you personaly to make arrangement s on any Anal. When she saw me she wanted and additional 200p for the pooper. I declined. The experience was not great. At one point we stopped b/c her hips were hurting (Accident related). Couldn't take a pounding.
Catherine: Oh how I miss her. Had three days straight. Definetly in my all time top five. Really sweet. Once of the best f%¿$s of my life. She has two teeth that sort of have that Jewel thing going, but I found it endearing. She's all natural and has a lovely ass. Very petite. Went out to dinner with her and is really fun. all in all she gets a 9. OHH- charged me 200p for 1hr including anal.
Oriana: Very clever gal. She has other pics on other websites, but when you tell her you saw her on AREAVIP she charges more. So tell her you saw her(And her friend Salome) on another page. On to the goodies. A bit plumb, but in that USA kinda way. Nice Ghetto booty with an equaly as good rack. She would definetly get hit on by all the H-Town brothers back home. HAs a very freindly disposition, only she likes to have sex in the dark. I think she is self concious of her body. I dug it though. Charged 100p for 1hr including anal but no BBBJ.
Noel: Really nice. When you she shows up she wears her glasses and it gives her that NY intellectual look. Loved it. Has a kid and is back home somewhere in Provencia with her. She will be back though. The experience was good not earth shattering but good, almost romantic. Charged me 150p for 1hr, no BBBJ and no Anal.
Pamela: This girl is NASTY!!! But in that good 2 Live Crew kinda way. When I had her she wasn't blond, but changed her hair color to a redish/orange tint. Still she looked good, about a low 8.
She charged me 200p for 1hr and a half including anal and BBBJ. Also she let me finish were ever I wanted. Twice!!! An excellent gal. Has a twin in Bariloche, were she is from.
Aby: Again she has this young girl thing going which I really dug. Has a very short neck though. Cute face. about a 7. Owns her own Tatoo parlor. Service was a bit perfessional. Charged me 100p for 1hr no BBBJ and no anal. However she did toss salad.
Gianella: This girl I took home from Mandahos one night and so I will count her as a AREAVIP experience. She's from peru, living in BA for almost 8yrs. When I picked her up I was taint and really I had asked the waitress to bring the girl sitting next to her, but i was real horny. So I took her home. Charged me 200p for the night and left in the morning. When came to my senses I found myself sleeping next to an Incan Mummy. Man was I wasted. The girl seriously needs The Castle to "brace her face." Has a real messed up gril. Anyway, I think we had a good time she gave me her home digits. But I just wanted her to leave.
Also had a girl named Lola who is no longer there so I'll spare the details. And this one lady when I first got here, who looked like she was 30 in the pictures but was actually pushing daisy's. I won't go ito them.
I'm still hoping Gisela(Chile), Ona(Mexico), or Agustina come back before I leave. My friend had Agostina(currently in www.areavipmexico.com) and he swor up and down that she was the most beautifull girl in the world. And the dude lives in Paris were there are plenty of bunnies.
I do plan on hitting up some more Area girls, and I will report ASAP as well as my other internet experiences I have.
LATER
Micky Mouse --- Glad to hear you had a good trip --- Did you get a chance to try "Fabiona" from the Cafe Orleans as Roxana had E-mailed me on your behalf regarding her name and phone number --- And If so would you please report for the board --- Thanks --- Exon
Well once again Andres has posted a very valuable tidbit of info.
I had been spending most of my "party time" visiting the clubs and while seeing 30-50 ladies all vying for my attention is quite a turn-on, I wanted to try some daytime fun and take the pressure off the night's search.
I visited Sante FE 1707 #3, and was very pleasantly surprised. Upon entering I was introduced to 7 very attractive ladies, any of which could have worked at Madhos and most of them would be very successful in that endeavor.
I choose a cute 22yr. lady named Jessica and was not disappointed, tall, lithe, and enthusiastic, she was quite the fun time.
I also saw a lady named Camilla a day or so later and while she has a recent set of "bolt-ons", she was very orally inclined, and I was quite inclined to receive her attentions.
The down side is you are at their place, and on the clock. This has not been an issue, but there is something about the "chase" at the clubs that adds a bit of spice.
The prices more than make up for those shortcomings, AR$ 80 for 45 mins and AR$100 for 60 mins are about half to a third of the total you spend for a lady at Modahos (including drinks and door fee and taxi).
I do admit that while I didn't try, I wonder if the ladies at Sante Fe "freelance" outside their work there.......maybe someone will find out.
OttoGraham
09-03-03, 14:22
Originally posted by DownBA
Can't remember who made the comment recently that they were getting bored of the endless combinations of lomo with papas fritas and pure and I know I haven't contributed about chicas lately since I haven't been to BA since late last year, but hey, whoever you are, branch out and try the endlessly different ways the Argentinians make the best chicken in the world (it's true) (try Pollo al Verdeo and I dare you not to leave salivating) and try their endless variety of pastas that have to be the best in the world outside Italy, and for Pete's sake, try riñones and chinchulines and mollejas, some of the best things you're going to find while in Argentina besides for their uncannily great beef and chicas! Sorry to put this into the BA section when it probably belongs in the general section, Jackson, but I believe the fellow monger I'm thinking of posted his comment here.
Also, have you tried the bife de chorizo (this isn't sausauge so if that's what's keeping you from trying it take a crack at the best sirloin cut you're ever going to feast on before you leave BA)?
Have you tried the entrañas? This is skirt steak and the Argentinians are masters of it, so come on, get with the program and stop eating lomo every day man!
Aren't I right about this Uncle Otto? Help me out here Otto! DownBA
Down, you are absolutely right! I have been to terrific Sushi places (Dashi and Renault Museum), great Italian places (Piegari and Renault Museum), and even a (not so good) Polish place in BsAs (I forget the name). I describe a number of them in my posts in the restaurant section.
-Uncle Otto
OttoGraham
09-03-03, 14:24
Originally posted by Prokofiev
Also I need to heed the advice often given here, from Otto as well as others. Everything is SO cheap that you must stop sweating the little stuff. Take cabs . . . they are VERY cheap. I received a number of fake bills this weekend and it pissed me off. But it only amounted to $35 bucks. Trying to save 10 or 20 pesos with some club girl is counterproductive. You need not pay more than 150 pesos, but trying to bargain her down to 120 or 100 often just isn´t worth it Lay back and enjoy it. Life is short.
Peace -P
Amen, brother!
-Uncle Otto
Originally posted by Pinche Guey
I do plan on hitting up some more Area girls, and I will report ASAP as well as my other internet experiences I have.
Pinche,
Talk to Marian on Area Vip if you can. I'm curious as to what she will charge you.
She quoted me outrageous prices in U.S. dollars. Unbelieveable.
Thanks,
Moondog
Sky Ryder,
In reference to 1707 Santa Fe:
If I remember correctly, they do offer outcalls. You have to pay extra for taxi. You can ask for someone particular you fancy or you can physically go there, make a selection and take her out. Their # 4816-1490; 15-4028-7804. It is worth checking out.
Bandy
Pinche Guey
09-04-03, 03:05
Fellas,
My internet experience continues. For those interested in Area Vip girls Kelly, Sol, Cristal, Sharon charge 100p (anal included) for a 1hr session. Iara and Anirba charge 150p, Nerea charges 170, Agustina, Victoria, Laura 200p, and Majo and Jazmin each charge 250. I will be spending time with a large portion of theses women before I leave. If any of you have info please share.
MoonDog,
I called Bianca once for a price check and she quated me 150p w/anal for 1hr and a half. Seconds later my English friend called and was quated u$s125 for just 1hr of regular sex. That experience makes me believe that these girls charge more if they here an accent. I don't know what your background is but my experience with these ladies is that if they hear an accent then you'll get charged more. I'm of latin descent and it has helped enormously. I shall post later on Marina.
More Internet Girls: Platynum
Encanto: Nice soft jello booty. Looks better in the pictures. Works in an apartment in Belgrano with some other ladies. Charged 80p for 1hr with anal. Regreted my choice and wished I'd spent it on an another girl.
Narea: Looks good in the pic, but when I had her it was in an apt in Belgrano. There was a black light in the room so i didn't get a good look. Looked fine but her teeth turned green b/c of the black light. HAd an ok time, a bit rushed. 80p no anal.
Tatiana: From Brazil. A total hard body, with a super firm ass. HAd a really good time, loves americans, and she is quite a moaner. Charged me 100p with anal. But i really didn't need her butt because she was sufficient.
Gemidos.com.ar girls.
The girls here look a bit more raunchy and some also post on other sites ex: Marisol is Majo on areavip. Charges the same though-250p.
Greta: Ok i ended up with this scag when i was looking for Nicol on areavip who also posts as Delfina/Angi on gemidos. When i got to her place she told me she cut her hair and what not. However after some close examination I realised that I was robbed. This was not the girl I paid in the picture, she still looked good but I wanted Delfina/Nicol. I guess they all work out of the same place. Anyway charged me 100p for 30min. What a gip.
Sussan also works there and wanted me with greta in a combo. I saw her in the dark and she was unbelievably ugly. Stay away fellas.
There have been a few more like Sol, who was estefania on areavip but left. But some of them have left and no longer are available.
Anyway, I'll be hitting up some more internet girls so I'll report later.
OHHHH I almost forgot. Last night I called ?????? from www.escortsbaires.com.ar. Turns out I was her 1st customer in 2months. She'd been taking a vacation from her acting gigs in the US. When I asked if she'd done any work I have ever seen she said she did some work for John Stagliano. YES THE PORN MAN HIMSELF. Also said she was in dirty debutantes but forgot which one. I have to say fellas having sex with a girl of this caliber, after she's been with ROCCO SIFFEREDI and LEXINGTON STEELE really humbles a man. Neverthe less she was THE BOMB. Funcked like a real pornstar. Being with her was like being in a Redlight District or Mayhem Video. All gonzo and dirty. Not going to say how much she charged, cause I would have paid more. I was planning on getting some more ladies this week but she left me. I quote Radiohead "High and Dry." I shall reveal her name when I leave, I want the same bargain basement prices the next time I see her.
MeGustaBoliches
09-04-03, 08:05
Otto and others,
Otto, you are so right about food in Buenos Aires. While it is certainly easy to slip into a steak/potatoes diet, Buenos Aires is blessed with restaurants featuring much more....
Even in Parrillas (grills...steak houses) it is possible to branch out....instead of a steak, order the pechito de cerdo (pork ribs) at 1880 Parilla. You won't be disappointed. Try the salmon teryaki at Dominga. Lamb from Patagonia and grilled goat are outstanding.....the shrimp at Doras downtown will melt in your mouth...the chicken in various Thai sauces at the Empire bar is marvelous....the trout at Bella Italia is highly recommended, as is any pasta dish on the menu....Tancat downtown on Paraguay serves shrimp with black rice that is great....the list goes on.....
Anyone who leaves Buenos Aires and who believes there is no cuisine other than steak simply has not read the restaurant reviews here....
I am returning in October and looking forward to the food/wine as much as the girls, which probably says something about my age...sigh....
OttoGraham
09-04-03, 09:20
Me Gusta Boliches,
Shoot me an email at my handle at hot mail dot com. Gracias!
-Uncle Otto
MiddleAgeGuy
09-04-03, 14:47
Pinche Guey,
Nice bunch of descriptions on your 2 posts, in a logical manner. It was probably better for most readers that you saved up a big list to publish at one time.
I can only add one who is Platynum Bibiana; AreaVip Melanie. Mariana who I have posted about before. Saw her Saturday at Newport, pretty enthusiastic. Others can't post without approval as not in the game any more.
Wednesday night at Madahos was hopping with a lot of talent.
later MAG
Jaimito Cartero
09-04-03, 16:33
P250 per hours seems quite outrageous to me. I guess if you're used to paying $200 per hour isn't not bad. I guess in my experiences the extra money usually isn't worth it. They either have an attitude, or just want to get by on their looks.
I'm in Thailand right now, so almost a $100US an hour sounds like more than I spend all of last week here. Ah, but those Argentine chicas are so nice.
Our board is is back up and runing ------Yea,Yea --- Thanks Jackson
So, the first, however short report after the forum's downtime (thanks, Jackson!):
During the last days, I hit Affaire and Madahos. It was my first time in both clubs, and for those who also don't know them, some impressions:
Affaire is basically a large, rectangular room, a bar on one side and a couple of tables / sofas opposite, in between a lot of space - and when I was there (together with Jackson and another guy) that space along the bar was packed with at least 30 chicas. We were there rather early (short after midnight), and the ratio girls : guys was about 5:1. Drink prices (as far as I remember) $10 for yourself, $25 for the girl.
Madahos is bigger, and the room is much more difficult to overlook, it is L - shaped and has some stuff blocking the view - wherever you are, you see about 1/3 of it, including 1/3 of the talent. Yesterday (friday) night, also around midnight, maybe 40 girls and nearly the same amount of guys. Some of the girls rather pushy. Drinks for you $25, for the girl $35, your first drink is included in the cover.
I do not comment about the "quality" of the girls. This is too much a question of personal preferences. I personally found chicas meeting my taste at both places.
Chicas:
Laura from Affaire
rather affectionate in the club - cuddling, kissing, etc. Cooled down substantially later. CBJ. Not to be repeated.
Marisa from Madahos
a tall, black haired girl from the northern provinces of Argentina. rather reserved in the club, not pushy - I talked maybe half an hour with her before she even asked for a drink - but turns a tigress en la cama. Best BB69er I had for a long time. I am going to want that again...
Have fun, everybody
El Aleman
p.s. $ of course means peso.
MeGustaBoliches
09-14-03, 00:24
Anyone have any idea where to go for STD testing in Buenos Aires? Costs?
Jackson,
Thanks for getting the board back up. I will not be able to attend the Thanksgiving dinner, but it sounds great.
Moondog
Pinche Guey,
If you call Mirian of Area-VIP, I would be interested in hearing what she charges you.
Thanks,
Moondog
Megustaboliches:
Public hospitals provide tests for free, but you have to come rather early (like 5AM to be tested by 8AM).
The last place I went to do an STD test was a big lab located at Junin St near the corner with MT Alvear St. You may go there and ask (I didn't pay anything since I was enrolled in a local HMO, but I guess that I should cost less than ar$50-100)
Hope this helps,
Andres
Hey everyone! Great to see the board back up, I will be in BA next week and after months of reading reports on here, I have a couple of questions I am hoping some of you regulars can answer. I have a friend that went to BA before me to check it out and perhaps I fed him the wrong info, but his experiences in BA are MUCH different than what people are posting. He has gone to several of the places noted here looking for street walkers or freelancers and has seen next to nothing. We normally go for the thai street walker styles, but they are apparently very hard to find in BA.
Is there anybody that could summarize the locations (with addresses) of streetwalkers and a couple of clubs where the girls aren't $100US? Granted I have been spoiled by SE Asia, and I know BA wont have the selection and the price, but we would like to give it a fair shake since I have heard so many good things about BA. I always appreciate the informative posts on here and I'll definately be reporting when I get back.
Thanks!!!!!
I spent a little over a week in BA right at the beginning of September. I ate and drank like a king, went to concerts and theater performances, and, of course, met some of the local ladies. This board -- and especially Andres -- has been very useful, so I wanted to return the favor. With the strong dollar vs. the peso, this is a historical window that won't be open for ever. The peso will either recover, or Argentina will go to hell and become unstable and even more unsafe. Take advantage of this chance while you can.
Since I speak some Spanish, I wanted to experiment with what the local economy would offer. After an abortive attempt at getting a Clarin girl to visit me in my apartment (don't know where the glitch was), I decided to go on the road.
My first experience was at Montevideo 271. This is in what seems to be a very safe neighborhood full of restaurants and shops. It is a couple of blocks south of Corrientes. The establishment is unmarked, but the door is open (shades of San Jose!). You walk up about two flights of stairs and find a small bar. Beers are 5 and chicas are 30/half hour, 40/45 minutes, 50/hour. There was only one girl there when I showed up and no other customers -- I later found out that I had basically come during a shift change. The girl, Yamila, Argentine brunette with a decent face and body, had a nice shaved kitty as well. The experience was OK, though a little rushed (since she was probably anxious to go home). She said there are normally three girls around. The rooms are on premises and are tiny but functional -- again, like the rooms in 747 or VIP's Molino Rojo in San Jose. Overall, not a rip off but not great.
My second experience was at Corrientes 1965, 13-B (tel: 4952-8234). It's a classy building on bustling Corrientes, so perfectly safe. This is where I hit the jackpot. They run ads in Clarin, but some of the girls also have their pictures on
www.nivel69.com.ar
(Paola and Rocio on this site work out of this apartment I am told)
The first time I went, they had about six or seven girls, all of whom were very nice including Andres' pick, blonde Lorena. However, I got the nicest kiss of greeting and a smile from Tamara, a pretty brunette Argentine. Rates are 30/half hour, 50/hour. Definitely opt for the hour even if, like me, you're normally done in less time. When you pick the hour service, the receptionist usually offers you the use of one of their "private suites," separate and very nicely-furnished rooms with large queen beds and mirrors on the walls, etc. (My guess is that they have the entire 13th floor). Otherwise, I guess you use one of their tiny but still quite decent rooms in 13-B but which don't have private bathrooms and only have folding accordion doors.
Tamara was a great GFE experience. Lots of DFK, CBJ but very well done and extensive, DATY, and as many positions as I wanted. She loved the attention I paid to her breasts and nipples and I was happy to make her happy. She offered me anal, but I didn't take her up on the offer. After we were done, we cuddled for the balance of my time.
I liked the experience so much that I went back a couple of days later and, while tempted by Lorena, opted for Tamara again. The "second date" was even more intense and GFE. Our lips were basically locked together for the entire hour unless they were occupied with something even more tasty. We did everything we did on the first date and more. After I finished the first time, she didn't stop and had me continue on. Amazingly, she revived me in record time and then climbed on and we nearly broke the headboard (I'm glad I didn't try that in my apartment with the Nazi portera!) I know we all say this, but I really think she enjoyed herself and I was reminded when I was with my ex-novia during times when she was basically as intent on getting off as I was. Tamara kept saying how she would miss me when I left the next day. At the end of the sweaty hour, we took a shower, and then I tipped her a measly 10 pesos. What an experience for 20 bucks! If anyone goes with Tamara, tell her the guy with the fruit-flavored condoms says hello (and maybe bring some yourself).
The one "negative" experience I had was with an apartment on Corrientes 1642. I tried this place in between my two visits to 1965, and the experience paled in comparison. In their Clarin ads and on the phone, they'll tell you 20/half hour, 30/hour. When you get there, the receptionist will try to charge 30/50. I wasn't impressed with the three girls there, so was going to go back to 1965 Corrientes if they were going to charge me the same rate. However, the receptionist blocked my path to the door and said that I would have to pay her 5 pesos for the introductions. She then changed her tune and offered me the original 20/30. Well, the biological imperative got the better of me, and I had to satisfy my urge for new fields to plow. I picked an 18-year old brunette Argentine. It was a pretty poor experience. She said that she didn't like to be touched or kissed at all. CBJ that was OK, and then the main event. With the total lack of chemistry or enthusiasm on her part, I decided to leave after finishing even though there was still plenty of time left on the meter.
MeGustaBoliches
09-14-03, 19:04
Gracias Andres,
My next trip is already planned. Just hope I am not so busy taking advantage of bargains such as medical tests, getting presription glasses, buying tailored suits, and such that I don't have time to visit the boliches. LOL, not likely, because...
megustaboliches! Y me encanta las mujeres mas que lentes.
I just got back from a 2 week trip to South America. I had a great time as usual. I wasn't planning on going to BA this trip but I figured I couldn't be all the way in South America and not hit BA so I scheduled a 2 day trip there. Unfortunately work cut that short into a 1 1/2 day trip but I had a wonderful time as usual. I didn't have time to post there but I'll try to post what I remember.
I arrived early in the morning from the USA and had my driver bring me to my apartment. It was good to be back in my favorite city. I've been to several places in the world but BA will always be my favorite. It really does feel like coming home. I had a girl I met from Black's over for a pre-scheduled appointment by 11 AM. I was super tired from the flight but I had no time to waste. Another great session as usual but I had to hurry to do a few things. 200 pesos for 1.5 hours. I'm sure she would have stayed longer but I had much to do. After the session I walked to the casa de cambio by La Biela. Exchange rate was 2.95 to the dollar which I consider to be very healthy. I should point out that everyone seems more upbeat with the progress of the economy than just a few months ago.
The temperature was very cold but it was a welcome change from the hot weather in the USA. The days were brisk in the 50's and the nights were probably low 40's.
I met some friends for lunch and had a nice time catching up. At lunch Moondog called and asked if we were still on for meeting up at Cafe Orleans. I always try to hook up with Moondog whenever I can. I think we've met in BA now about 5 or 6 times in the last year. We always manage to have a good laugh and good conversation. I met him by 3:30 PM at Cafe Orleans. I've never had good luck here with the girls I prefer. It was crowded with girls and a few locals. IMHO, none of the girls were doable except a beautiful girl from Paraguay that Moondog had his sights on. I hope he had a good session. I would have sessioned with her if he didn't. He had to leave that night so he left to go session with her. I met up with another lurker from the board that Moondog introduced me to. "Mr. B" was a really nice guy.
After Moondog left I was itching to session again. Mr. B and I went to check out some other action. I suggested trying Rio Cabana which I heard mixed reports on. A few girls I know formally worked there so I wanted to check it out. It's in Palermo. Anyway...the club is very nice but there were only about 5 or 6 girls in there. After one 15 peso drink we left and I suggested Santa Fe 1707.
We arrived at Santa Fe 1707 and there were a few girls there. Nothing that I'd consider outstanding but as usual I was horny and was short on time. I had all these plans for internet girls but sometimes you have to go with the flow. Mr. B saw a girl there that he told me last time he left with her and she had a cold attitude outside the door so he changed his mind. She was a cute blonde. I left with Pamela. I never session there. I always bring them back to my apartment. Price was the same at 100 pesos an hour. Mr. B initially wasn't going to session with anyone but then he decided to try the blonde again. I'm not sure because I left with my girl.
In the taxi, Pamela explained to me why she was so hesitant to leave with Mr. B. He stays at a hotel around the corner and I guess the last time he insisted on walking with her to the hotel. The problem is that she lives in the area and she didn't want anyone to see her going back with a gringo because they would know what was up. She wanted to just meet him in his room but I guess his lack of Spanish prevented that from occurring. I hope they got it straightened out.
I arrived at my apartment with Pamela and she was impressed with the place. The funniest thing I ever saw in all my years hobbying was when after she showers she reaches into her purse and gets out a little Palm Pilot type gizmo and sets the clock for an hour. I laughed my ass off and told her I've never seen a girl so professional. I didn't care. I just went with the flow of things. It sucks because upon coming to my apartment I noticed that one of the dudes that rented it took my nice Brookstone alarm clock. That was surprising to see that someone would take it.
Pamela was into the sex. Another funny moment is when she went to go in for the BJ she was getting a condom out. I asked her why she was using a condom. She told me 30 pesos more for a BBBJ. I just laughed and told her to forget it and go with the CBJ. It wasn't the money but I just didn't want to see her play these games and if so...I didn't want to see her make more money from it. It was only $10 US but still. After the session I asked for a picture and she told me no. She was well aware of the internet. She told me she was also Pamela on Platynum.com. She did tell me I could take one picture and hid her face so I could post it. She saw no harm since her other faceless pics are on the internet. Sometimes you just have to reason with these girls because they aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.
She told me that the majority of the girls on Platynum are under contract with "managers" and that they pay the girl's 50 peso a month fee. In exchange for this they only get 50% of their session fee. That's why she was hussling for extra tips for services. The session was ok but I wouldn't repeat. I gave her 10 pesos for a taxi and sent her on her way.
I talked on the phone a while with some amigas then I started getting ready to meet up with Andres for dinner. I've hooked up with Andres several times now and he is a very good guy. Always articulate, informative and just an all around good guy. He picked me up in his car and we headed to BA's version of Chinatown. I didn't even know they had one. I liked the restaurant and thought the food was good. The place was nice but empty. I only saw one couple the whole time we were there. We hooked up with Jackson, Sky Ryder and another dude that was a friend of Jackson's. Had a good dinner chatting and joking around with the fellas. I've hooked up with Jackson several times and we always have a good laugh talking about girls and BA.
After dinner we decided to head out. I wanted to hit Recoleta clubs. We went to Madaho's and it was good. They remodeled the place since I was there in May. I liked it. It was funny because I saw about 6 or 7 girls that I have sessioned with in the past. Some formally worked at other places. I saw Susana who used to work at Salome. She came over to me and kissed me. We made out a while then I bought her a drink. She ordered some 50 peso drink so beware. Jackson told me earlier in the night about this but I wasn't paying attention in Madaho's. I guess if a dude buys them this drink they can leave for the night and not come back. Immediately after buying the drink for her I saw another girl that I thought was hot. I wanted to ditch my girl for her but I didn't. Nothing worse than having buyer's remorse but I already invested 50 pesos and making out all for a while with the other girl. I think it's kind of tacky to make out with a girl then not leave with her.
Anyway, I ask Susana who is half Paraguayan and half Brazillian, what her rates are. She says 300 pesos now for a few hours. I laughed at told her that just a few months ago I was paying as little as 150 pesos for several hours. She told me Madaho's is different. I just laughed at told her that I wasn't a client but I was her amor. We both laughed and she agreed to 200 pesos for 2 hours. The session was wild as usual. I got a few good pictures. She has gained some weight but I'm always a sucker for her natural D breasts. Anyway, I was in a rush because I wanted to hit one more club. It was after 3 AM when I went to Black's.
I arrived at Black's and the talent was a little thin but I stayed for a drink and found a beautiful blonde. She was just what the doctor ordered. Honestly, I was literally drained but I wanted one more session. It was my 4th of the day. I'm glad I left with her. She asked for some crazy price of like $250 US because she mentioned that I was dressed nice and looked like I had money. I joked that she was dressed nice too and looked like she had money so she didn't need to charge so much. She ended up accepting my offer of 300 pesos for all night. I don't usually like all-nighters but I knew I wanted her to wake up in my arms. I was supposed to have breakfast with Mayri before I headed out but I was still in bed with Lorena when I was supposed to be at breakfast. (Again....since the alarm clock was stolen I had no clue of the time until i looked at my cellphone).
It was a whirlwind 30 hours or so in Buenos Aires then I headed to Brazil where I've been spending most of my spare time this year. My thanks to all those I spent time hanging out with. I had fun.
Saint
Saint,
Thanks for a nice report.
The girl from Orleans was absolutely perfect. Very pleasant, pretty, and not a word ever spoken about money. We talk regularly via email, and I will definitely take her out again for dinner and all night.
Moondog
Moondog,
Your Cafe Orleans girl had a certain charm about her. No offense but she looked out of place in that place. If you didn't pull her out I would have. She looked pretty. I couldn't tell too much about her body since it was bundled with clothes since it was cold but it looked nice.
I agree with you. My best sessions in BA have been when money was the last thing on the minds of the girls. Sometimes the girls are so unfocused on the money they almost leave without getting paid.
Have fun in Brazil Moondog. I envy you. I think I'll take a few months hiatus from traveling and concentrate on my relationship. Tchau and good luck.
Saint
P.S. On the matter of STD tests. ALL guys that are in the hobby should be getting tested on a regular basis. I know several of the girls that get tested frequently. They always hold their breath until they get the results. One this weekend was asking me all these questions about Hepatitis so I think maybe she contracted it or one of her friends did. Guys, before going down there get your Hepatitis A and B shots. There are the two most vaccine preventable viruses out there.
Again, don't be so naive into thinking you're the only one the girl does unprotected sex with. I hear first hand from some of these girls who "fall in love" with a different guy every week. One of my amigas just asked me yesterday why in the world physicians that know about the risks of STD's wanted to go bareback with her friend. I told her that first he is a horny man...THEN he is a doctor. She just laughed.
I get tested after each of my trips and thank god I've never contracted anything. Good luck.
Saint, was glad to hear your report suggesting that BBFS is at least sometimes available in BA. I've been spoiled by SE Asia. Is bareback something that is redily available if one bargains for it? I know in some cases its a matter of extra money, in others a matter of the girl liking you. Most often the former. I just don't want to fly all the way down to BA and find out its like my Switzerland experience a few years ago - everything covered, no matter what!
Opebo,
I hope you're not getting my message confused. I'm in NO way advocating unprotected sex. It is NOT a good idea. Let me repeat that. It is NOT a good idea. Many guys don't like talking about this subject because they like to ignore the idea of the consequences. I don't think it's a matter of paying more money. Much like anywhere else in the world (even the US). If a girl feels comfortable with you, is attracted to you, feels like she can trust you, etc. she is more likely to offer this. I've never asked for this but several girls have offered. I also know other guys that have been offered it.
Like I mentioned, you may feel special and think you're the only one but I can promise you that you're not. Odds are if she is offering it to you she is offering it to others as well. Just be careful. Enough on this topic. Good luck all.
Moondog --- Ive also had very good luck in Cafe Orleans --- And in reading Saints excellent report I got to wondering if the girl from Paraguay mentioned was a blonde by the name of Fabiona --- If so Ive had the pleasure of doing her myself several times, even did a TLN with her --- She is excellent with perfect service --- Micky Mouse had met her with me my last night in town and had Roxana e-mail me for her name and phone number which I still had --- I love the Cafe Orleans --- I guess because the girls are slighty older and provide very good service --- Next time your in Cafe Orleans ask to meet Roberta --- Shes a Brazilian that claims shes 27, (I'd guess early 30's) that gave me the best sessions Ive had in BA --- She worth checking out and a very nice person to boot --- I'll be back next month for more --- Exon
Exon123,
Over the past four years, some beautiful women have been pulled out of Orleans, including their sisters. Some of them are gone, but some good friends are still around.
The girl that Saint was refering to was not Fabiona.
If you want more info, email me at: moondog2005@yahoo.com
Moondog
[Maria]
This discussion amazes me because I have been in Cafe Orleans maybe 8 times and I have never seen anyone I wanted to take out of there. Never, not one woman, not one time, and I have low standards; ask anyone. I guess timing is everything.
BUT if you are in there at night and you don't see anything you like, remember Maria is only two blocks away. Tell her El Toro Rojo says hi.
Three months, seventeen days and counting.
Dickhead,
I'm planning my second trip to Bs.As. in November, would you share more information in Maria, like a picture and description of her. I know alredy many other stuff in this girl reading your numerosos posts, but a phone will be a plus. Is Paraguay & Florida her trading place? I got check this chick. Please help me. I'm already in "love" with her.
Thanks and Happy hunting!
I do not take pictures as I have a pornographic memory (or maybe I'm just too @$%$ing cheap to buy a camera and too %&!@ing incompetent to operate one; never owned one in my life), and María has no home phone, no cell phone, no business phone. Go to the location: Paraguay and Florida, SE corner in the doorway of the shoe store (or is it a dress shop; it is the second doorway from the corner) near the newsstand and if she's not there you could leave a phone number with her door mates. Otherwise SOL. Does not work Sundays ordinarily. Treat her well. Shower her with love. Descriptions have been provided several times: 27 years old, 5'7" (170 cm), very long dark brown hair, nice body but does not dress revealingly, often wears black pants and red sweaters, yes she has a few crooked teeth, no I don't give a shit.
I yearn for her tragically.
Previously, I reported on an attractive, small slim woman at Black that had quoted me a price of $350ar and wouldn't budge. Last Friday, I concluded an experience with her. Because I think it says something about the Recoleta clubs and Black, here it is. The lesson is that once again, I have seen there is no direct relationship between price and value and at times, they are inversely proportional.
I decided I wanted the woman because we seemed to get along, so I went back to Black a couple times, and finally saw her again last Friday. She said she had taken a 15 day vacation. I agreed to the $350ar price to include BBBJTC as an introductory meeting, and we left. I had bought her a $60ar drink, and my $25ar drink.
In the hotel, first I noticed that in the light, she was older than I thought. Definitely thirties, by the lines around the eyes, but very nice body. Then, she avoided kissing me in an initial embrace. A very bad omen. After she undressed, she asked for the money up front. Terrible omen. I refused and started to dress. She relented, and wanted us to shower first. I suggested she use the bidet, which I think is a tremendous asset. Especially since I had just showered about 2 hours before. She balked, so I went along, because it can be fun, but we didn't shower/play together, but more or less one after another, which wasted a lot of time, which of course was the idea.
We got together on the bed, and she was all pro. She limited the kissing/cuddling, and went into the BBBJ. By now, I am so turned off with the whole proceeding I can't even get a hard-on. I suggested it might help if I ate her first, because I enjoy that. She had a good time, and I can tell fakes. I didn't enjoy it that much because the hair was about 1/8" instead of removed, and this is painful and abrasive against the face. But with her great legs, it was still fun. Afterward, I stepped in the bathroom to rinse with Mint Listerine and when I exited, she was dressing. We had been in the room about 1 hr. At this point I didn't object or even question her. I walked her out and got her a cab. Obviously, I didn't ask for her number.
Net, it was about the the worst experience I have had in BA. I walked into a machine designed to exploit tourists, and finely tuned for it. Surprisingly, I think if I had negotiated harder, I might have gotten better service. But by going along, I think I triggered the exploitation mentality, and became just another rich tourist, and got her standard routine. She lost sight of the idea of repeat meetings, which had been mentioned. Her name, etc. aren't important, because she didn't directly rip me off, and YMMV. If I had been a tourist and had come, I might have thought she was great.
I contrast this with a 20 yr old I first met in Hook, so sweet and caring that it almost hurts me. I usually give her $200ar for a meeting of 1-2 hours. But she is brunette, and a little larger than I like(which might be a good thing). And 2-3 other very nice regulars I have met around.
The depressing thing about this is that Black does have 4-5 of the small, slim women that I like and are so rare. And I think I may have to write them all off. So I will keep looking in other areas. And I am still batting 1.000 that women who even ASK for the money up front are a terrible experience and/or a rip-off.
Yup, regression analysis shows a correlation coefficient of .0000000000000001 between price and quality. Statistically insignificant at a confidence level of 99.9995%.
350 + 60 + 25 pesos = 4 times with María plus 4 times with Alejandra, or
2 times with Salomé plus 2 times with María plus once with Antonela, or
2 times with María plus twice with Salomé plus 4 times with Alejandra, or
2 times with Antonela, once with María, once with Salomé, and a quick trip to Rivadavia 1921, or
29 trips to Rivadavia 1921 (not recommended).
OttoGraham
09-16-03, 00:54
Lexton, why don't you share her name and a closer description so we can avoid her?
Bad experiences can come in many forms. If you think about it, you lost 100 bucks. Not bad compared to my bad experience at Veterans Stadium a couple of years back when I dropped 600 bucks out of my pocket and didn't notice it until it was gone. (Worse yet, Navy beat Army that day, and it was one LONG RIDE HOME.)
Thanks for taking one for the team and letting us know who to avoid. If you're in BsAs the next time I am there I'll buy you a drink to help soothe your hurt feelings!
-Uncle Otto
Exon 123,
Hey, how is it going ?? Yes, this Fabiana looks hot and I fell for her immediately during the introduction, since she meets my preference for tall, blonde women.
I'm going to be in BA between Sept 29-Oct 6 (I can't wait because it NY sucks) and I would love to hook up with her. Since you still have her email/number, email me her info. Thanks.
For once Dickhead and I agree on something 100%. I've never pulled anyone out of Cafe Orleans either. I have never seen anyone in there worth pulling out. The first time was this past time when I met Moondog. That girl had classic good looks. She seemed a bit older but not that big of a deal.
Sorry about your bad experience Lexton. There definitely are some sharks. However, I think guys should go into each negotiation with each girl with a grain of salt. I've seen some girls from Black's and the internet that others have seen and had bad sessions with. Generally, I've found the majority of the guys that read the board and head down to Buenos Aires won't like Black's. I don't go too often but I try to go once per trip. You'll definitely spend more there than other places so if your goal is to save money then don't do it.
Lexton is right when he says there is no correlation between the price you say and the service you get. I've had my best luck at Black's late at night after I've already sessioned and went back out or hit it the last on my "tour". The girls are more willing to deal later although some have a preset price in their head and they won't budge from it. A few weeks ago I pulled out a super hottie for 300 pesos for all nighter and she even rode to the airport with me. Damn I was drained.....
Dickhead,
Thanks a lot for the information, I think I got enough to locate this darling. I was a couple minutes out and six post already! this forum real moves!
Since you're a great sport, one question more the deal is $60/hr right? did you try TLN with her? Thanks again, I owe you a dinner.
Dickhead and Saint,
"You should have been here yesterday" as the saying goes, or in reality about 3-4 years ago. Some of the best looking girls in BA were pulled out of Orleans. I agree that in the last two years or so, the quality has not matched up to what used to be in there.
Not to worry though, as the BA AAA farm team keeps sending up new talent all the time. :)
Enjoy the life Gentlemen,
Moondog
Lexton,
That is exactly the reason I never discuss money with these girls unless they bring it up first. We have all been with attitudes like the girl that you mentioned, and it is no picnic.
The entire process for me rests with attitude only, and how the two us interact with each other. Money is never mentioned, and if she starts talking about money, and quotes an amount that is agreeable to me, I say yes. If not, I say no. Usually though, nothing is mentioned.
Don't give up, there are much better attitudes out there.
Enjoy the life,
Moondog
Dancesw/Chicas
09-16-03, 06:12
Hi Amigos,
There is a blonde at Orleans name Alejandra. Long beautiful hair. Not a GFE but aceptable performance. Talking to her, I learn that she was a very high class escort traveling to New York and other cities for "business" when the peso was 1-1 and Argentines were able to spend.
Also Maria de los Angeles, another blonde from Orleans now at Exedra. She really cares to make you happy. In between this two cafes walking up down Florida is the elegantly dress Cecilia (if I remember well) a redhead that dresses like a secretary. She is also a great chica and friend.
Anyone know these girls?
DWC
Jaimito Cartero
09-16-03, 10:44
Lex,
Well, for dropping close to $150US I'm sure it still pains you. I didn't see in your post whether the 350AR was for an hour or for ST? Because I would not have paid her until she gave it a damn good effort. I'm a cheap bastard, though.
If I negotiate with someone for something and they don't deliver, then I consider the agreement incomplete.
I'm just getting ready to leave Bangkok now, and I had a couple of girls over to my apartment/hotel here a few days ago.
I always specify a minimum duration for BBBJ, and quality of service. Well between the two of these girls, once could last about 2 minutes before her jaw was tired, and the other one only about a minute before she switched over to her hand. Not acceptable. After sitting there for 1/2 an hour arguing with them, I gave them 1/3 of their fee and kicked them out. This was my first trouble I've had in Thailand.
It just goes to show you that no matter where you go, you can always have problems.
I don't know where the quote function is today but Razor writes:
"Dickhead, Thanks a lot for the information, I think I got enough to locate this darling. I was a couple minutes out and six post already! this forum real moves! Since you're a great sport, one question more the deal is $60/hr right? did you try TLN with her? Thanks again, I owe you a dinner."
María quoted me 80 pesos when I met her and said that time was not a problem. I have always given her 100 (BTW she has never asked me for money up front). We don't even talk about it any more. IF she likes you she will spend at least two hours with you for that. I don't do TLN (but if I ever do it will certainly be with her). I agree with Samus Aran of Thailand fame on that one; part of what I am paying them for is to leave afterwards! I don't think she will either because she has a kid at home, although she can certainly stay out late.
Hi Guys,
For everybody planning to visit Buenos Aires, I want you to memorize these words and repeat them to yourself several times a day:
"In Argentina, there is absolutely NO correlation between the price you pay and the experience you receive."
Thank You,
Jackson
Actually what Jackson said has been my experience everywhere I've been (mongered on 5 continents), not just in Argentina.
Taste is a matter of option --- I like Cafe Orleans for several different reasons --- Number one the girls are slighty older in Orleans -- Im your typical middle aged monger and prefer girls around the late 20's to early 30's ages --- Not the real young ones found in the clubs of Recoletta at night --- Next the girls at Cafe are more sophiscated since their market target are the Argentine business men the frequent the Cafe --- But what I really like about Cafe Orleans is its a day time joint --- That way I can take the edge off during the day and not have to worry about hooking up with some chica in the clubs at night --- And of course you can always make a date for latter if you want --- Next a few comments about "Black" --- First I have some very good friends that work in Black --- And price is not the question --- For example I know one sweetheart that was doing a judge in Texas --- She made a deal with him to fly to the US and spend a week with him for a thousand dollars --- Now do the math --- Thats cheap --- What broke up the relationship was he put her in a hotel and went home at night to his wife --- She was pissed off as any woman would be --- Ive posted this before --- If you see a girl in Black that catchs your eye, buy her the drink and get her phone number --- Don't ever mention money and call her the next day for lunch --- And then let nature take its course --- Shes going to be a whole bunch cheaper when she's out of her element --- Also from immortal words of Jackson, monger of all mongers --- " If shes not all over you in the club then pass on her" and "never pay first" ---- Exon
Exon123,
Also try out Cafe Exedra, corner of Julio and Cordoba. Plenty of action throughout the day and well into the night. The cafe is much larger than Orleans as well.
Moondog
Mickey Mouse
09-16-03, 23:41
Exon,
Thankyou for the info on Fabiana, but I think she was away during my last visit since her voice mail picked up immediately. I left a message, but didn't hear back in time before leaving. She is striking and definitely on my "to do" list.
There is a good chance for another strategic strike in early October!
Hello Guys,
I have been following the BA pages for a couple of months now and think I have a pretty good idea of the situation. I will be travelling around South America soon and will be in BA in about a weeks' time for a while. I can probably only visit one or two places due to other commitments and wonder where you guys would go if you only had one night in BA. Which is your favourite club/girl? I will be travelling north aftewards and therefore don't want to spend too much - US$70 tops.
If anyone else is in BA at the end of September give me an email on: simonstylites2003@yahoo.com
Hodges
P.S. Doc Simp, if you are still there a few days later and fancy meeting up send me a message.
Thanks Micky Mouse --- Elvis contacted me regarding Fabiona as well and trust me she performs as good as she looks --- Comes highly recommended --- But you never met Roberta also from Cafe Orleans whom would have been my choice for my last night in BA, but has a young son she go's home to every night --- If you can hold your trip off till the end of October I'll buy you a steak --- By the way thanks Moondog I'll have to try Cafe Exedra next trip down --- I do like that day time action ---- Exon
I am still looking around the clubs, and here are a few more. Remember that I am a bad judge of what other people like, since I like small slim women only. If she is more than 5'3", etc. nothing else helps. If only I could speak a little Spanish!
Croupier: A new club on 9 Julio(C. Peligrini) between LaValle and Corrientes.
It opens earlier, supposedly at 6:00 PM. I stopped by a couple of times around 11:30PM. $15ar incl 1/dr entrance. $20ar chica drink, 2 drink exit TLN, they tell me. It is nice inside, with new couches that are comfortable. A medium sized bar. You go thru the door and down steps to enter. It is large inside. A comfortable environment to relax, it seemed. There were women dancing periodically. There were 5-6 women when I was there, probably 6-7 range IMHO. No small slim ones for me. It has been open I think about 3 weeks so the talent may improve and increase if they get more customers, because it is a nice physical plant. I may try it one day early in the evening for a look.
Queen: Talcahuano, near Corrientes, accross Corrientes from the Recoleta side.
This place is nice inside, and quite large. Surprisingly so, given the look of the area; commercial, like a downtown street. I walked over on a Thursday, about 12:30AM, with no problems. It has comfortable looking couches and some tables in a very large divided area. There is a show stage, and women dance periodically. There is a pool table in the far rear of the room. There is a nice bar. This place has the same owner as Boycote on M.T.Alvear, and the same policies/prices. It is low-priced, $10ar for my drink, $15ar chica drink. One drink to exit TLN, I think. There were about 5-6 women there, probably 6-7 range IMHO. I had a drink with a tall brunette with nice legs. Like Boycote, a friendly atmosphere with few customers.
VIP: 563 Tucuman, 1/2 block below Florida on left. No sign, just a doorway.
There is a sign "Habanos-Humidor Room" over the door. This place normally is touted from Florida and Tucuman or Tucuman. Sometimes it is touted as a massage parlor. You go thru the door upstairs to the second floor. It looks a little intimidating from outside. It really is more of a private apartment, I guess. There is a small bar in the entry salon. I saw about 4 women in the late 30's range, who swarmed me with invitations. A couple looked well built. One tried to get me to go to the 3rd floor to show me the bedrooms and whatever, but I knew I wasn't going to be buying so I didn't want to look around or hang around. Don't know about prices. Probably normal for an apartment setup. If you are with a friend, it might be worth a look, because it appears legit.
On the subject of prices of drinks for chicas, this seems to vary in other places besides Black. I have been hit twice recently. My favorita ordered a shot of tequila in Shampoo last week and they hit me $40ar for it instead of the $25ar copa price. I will ask her about it again later. She didn't seem to know much about it at the time. Another favorita ordered some cream drink with alcohol in Hook Monday and they hit me $35ar for it instead of the $18ar copa price. She seemed surprised and apologized for ordering it. In Hook, they tell me it is the price for drinks with alcohol. I don't know if I am starting to be hit with rich gringo pricing at every opportunity, there is a new trend, or this is something I have missed until now. Does anyone have more/other experience with this? Since I only drink carbonated water w/lemon, I don't know much about the variability of pricing for men's drinks with alcohol, brands, etc. so I have no standard of comparison. Any advice/info is appreciated.
The percentage of the total money taken by the clubs and others supported by the women really bothers me. When they take/make too much, there is less incentive for women to enter the business. One woman from Hook takes the bus home at 5AM(2 hr ride, she says), to avoid a $15ar taxi fare. And that is less than the difference in price they charged me. I told her, I would much rather give you the money for the taxi. The girls tell me that the bartenders push them to get the guys to give big tips, and the coat check girls as well. I like to use the clubs, to support them as much as anything, but I want to keep it fair.
Mickey Mouse
09-17-03, 23:50
Exon,
I stopped in to Orleans twice on my last trip and didn't see anything that peaked my interest. Bad timing I guess. I would be happy to take you up on that steak if we meet up in October, maybe Elvis could join us so then we could both "Mug" you for Fabiona's info & key.
As far as Excedra goes, I noticed it to be quite busy early in the am (late night)an hour or 2 before closing. It seems the girls stop in for "last call" (so to speak) before breakfast and going home for the night.
Lexton,
Now THAT was a report! I will be in BA in 2 days for my first trip and your report was very informational. With all the other info I have accumulated I will be reporting back as well. Thanks.
And then the girls will proceed from Excedra to Cafe Iberia for "last last" call. Place is often packed at 5 or 6 AM with some of the same gals you see in Excedra.
Avenida de Mayo 1100-1200 block. I think the cross street is Salta (continuation of Libertad; same street the Dazzler is on - the names change when you cross Rivadavia). Anyway it is about two blocks west of 9 de Julio. They make a good Cafe Cubano and damn strong for I believe it is 6 pesos. Criador whiskey on the rocks is 4.50 or maybe it is 4.0 if you drink it at the bar and 5 pesos at your table. Crawling with hookers from about 2330 on. Mostly butt ugly IMO but if some guys like Orleans and Excedra this is the same deal except it is a "respectable" place until late at night. See my posts from July and August.
Oh yeah, another thing about this place is it has an area with some couches. Not secluded or blow job area but it is good if you have a large group and want to chat with a few chicas at once.
Now I want somebody to go check out Snob on Córdoba 937 and tell me what they think! Come on! Think outside the box. Try something different.
Next trip pushed back to 7 Jan so 3 months 21 days and counting. This time I will be reporting on some other cities like Mendoza, Córdoba, and perhaps Rosario as I am going to start in Santiago, Chile and work my way towards BA by bus.
Thanks for the info. I will try it next time I am in town.
Moondog
Well this city is truly amazing, and at the risk of sounding heretic, not only for the sex. I´ve been here two days already, on day one I took Roxana´s city tour, which was very informative and a good overview. She´s also real good company, fun and comfortable to hang out with. Last night I got the royal tour from His Highness Jackson: Cocodrillo, Hooks, Madaho´s, and a couple of others whose names I can´t remember now. I ended up taking home from Cocodrillo´s a very sweet blond morena, Mariana, based on her attitude and Jackson´s recommendation. AR$100 for a fabulous hour and a half, dfk, bbbjtc and and then a nice long romp for a second pop. She was not concerned about the money, great in bed, and real friendly, great attitude. She gave me her phone number and I will definitely call her. I´d enjoy just seeing some sights with her.
Today I checked out Cafe Orleans in the afternoon and I have to agree with some posters here that it´s pretty slim pickins, but there are a few jewels to be had. I saw a very pretty girl, about 30, named Rossi, and got her phone number for possible use later. Anyone know her? She´s a brunette, about 5´6, weight proportional and gorgeous breasts (I know this doesn´t narrow things down much). Isn´t Excedra also a daytime spot? Any better?
No plans yet for tonight, but I´m gonna go take a Cialis and see what pops up. Later.
Doc,
A blonde morena is something like a skinny gordita . . .
Good Luck, -P:
Last night (Thursday) I went up to Recoleta to check out a couple places. Heads up, guys, you are getting complacent and missing out. These places are about 3 blocks from Madahos, on Las Heras, just accross Pueyrredon.
Puerto Colon: 2435 Las Heras
There is a sign outside. $12ar minimum 1 dr, $20ar chica dr, they tell me. They don't collect the minimum going in, but going out you need a receipt from the bartender that is collected by the doorman. This place is fairly large inside with large bar, couches. There is a show stage with dancers. There were about 8 women, unfortunately in the 5-7 range, I guess. The atmosphere was OK, but I don't know that it's worth it for the women. But if you are bored, it is something different.
Extra Brut: 2311 Las Heras 22:00-04:00
You need the address! There is no sign outside. There is a sidewalk awning in front of the door. This place has potential. $10ar/dr $25ar chica drink. I spoke with the owner, who says it has been open about 4 months. At first he told me 2 drinks to exit with a chica, then he said I could exit for 1 drink. I'm sure he wanted the business for his ladies. You go thru the door and downstairs to enter. It is not that big inside, about like Cattos. There is a show stage for dancers. I arrived about 1:00AM. There were about 10-12 women, in the 6-8 range, and I am being tough, I think. A few were solid 8's. The owner has good taste in ladies. It looks like a limited bar selection, but it should improve with time. I think this one is worthy of an inspection. There is a private area behind curtains for some types of sexual activity, he tells me. I didn't ask for details. A bunch of guys arived about 3:00AM in about 3 groups, but it looked to me like they would have drinks only, and not be taking ladies out.
On a side note. A street tout told me Solid Gold started opening at 6:00 last week. I believe Hook also started opening at 6:00 last week, at least weeknights. This is possibly to meet competition from Croupier, and possibly desperation.
Dickhead, I have been into Snob a couple of times in the last few weeks, on Thursdays/Fridays. It just breaks my heart. The place has been empty. The bartender tells me that Mondays and Tuesdays are the best nights, because there is a show. I haven't been back to see. It breaks my heart because the physical plant here is the best of all the places in BA and has so much potential. It has location, 2 floors, dance floor, great show stage, new comfortable couches, space, nice decor, you name it. But there are no customers. The owner obviously can't find a formula that works. The first time I stopped was good, and apparently for you also. The bartender says that period was the inaugural honeymoon, and that business fell off. I have more to say about this lack of business problem later.
Jaimito Cartero
09-20-03, 01:57
Lexton - Well, I had a pretty thorough talk with the last girl I took out of Hooks about the drinks and such.
For the first drink that a customer gets, the girl gets nothing. There are normal drinks and some deluxe drinks. The normal ones are $A18, and deluxe ones can run 25, 30 or 35. I think they may get a cut from the more expensive ones.
For the second drink, the girl gets $A5, and third or more, I think she may get $A6 or $A7.
Remember that the later you take the girl, the less drinks you by. You may not have to pay multiple drinks. I think if you take them after 2:30 or 3:00am, you only have to buy one drink.
I had one girl meet me with her friend, and I took her out all night (to one of the group dinners, and "dessert" with her and her friend), and I don't think Hooks got anything.
Jaimito Cartero
09-20-03, 02:00
Since there is a lot of info about Fabiona, I don't know if Exon wants me to put her picture up here. Since she was his "find", and I want to make sure she wouldn't mind, I'll leave it up to him. I'll crop Rick out... :)
Well, I might be a Dickhead but all this about the drinks at Hooks is pretty funny. I was there at least five times and drinks were $12 pesos for me, and $24 pesos for the woman, no matter what. If you paid more, you got ripped off, which certainly would not surprise me. I never heard jack about "deluxe" drinks or any of that silly stuff.
Just go in there, buy her one reasonably priced drink, and get her phone number. Then you are looking at $100 pesos an hour at most.
Just arrived in BA today, any fellow mongers around? If so, where you folks hangin out tonight?
EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid future delays, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!
JustGotBack
09-20-03, 17:08
Who remembers their first girl in BA? I'm stuck here at home trying to relive fond memories and I can't seem to remember my first girl. I remember the 2nd one. Strange how some stick out in your mind, but all the rest just become a big blur.
Jaimito Cartero
09-20-03, 17:38
Here was my first girl in BA, Marta (Paraguyan) from Hook.
She had a toothache and fell asleep before doing anything. She made up for it in the morning, but didn't want to leave. (Wanted to go SHOPPING.)
Gabriela from escortsbaires, but she went back to Brazil. She was good. I was even gonna do her a second time but she never showed up.
But I remember the LAST one even more. María María María I love you long time baby.
First I run into the bar fine pricing at the clubs, and now some security problems. I hope this is not a new trend in Buenos Aires.
First, a friend told me she was robbed while waiting for a bus near MT Alvear and Suipacha downtown, probably around 5:30 AM after leaving me last week. I had walked her as far as the corner of MT Alvear and 9 de Julio. She didn't ask me for anything as a result, and I know of nothing she had to gain by lying about it. I didn't offer her anything either, because one cannot know.
Second, this afternoon another friend said she was robbed by a taxi driver last Thursday. This is even more troublesome. She got the taxi about 11.00AM in front of the Dazzler Hotel, to go to Congreso. I was with her when we stopped it in the street. Strangely, this morning about 5:30 I was putting the other friend who said she was robbed last week in a taxi and, thinking how vulnerable she looked, took the number of the taxi. I wish I had done it Thursday.
In Costa Rica, I always took the number of the taxi the woman took. I also had a routine where I made them split up the money in 2 or 3 parts, with one part in the handbag. I had no problems in 5 months. But I haven't done that here. Till now, I have had no problems in 3 months. But I am painfully aware that the women are tempting targets. When a young woman is seen leaving an older gringo, thieves can be certain that she is carrying money. I was much more cautious of this in Costa Rica. And taxi drivers know full well that a woman leaving a gringo around 11:00AM near a hotel has spent TLN and that she probably has $300ar or more. That makes her even more tempting. In this case I did her a great disservice by being with her to get a cab and not getting the number. They also know a woman getting a cab anywhere near the hotels or apartment districts in the early morning probably has money, but not how much. Especially hotels like the Dazzler, where there are no bars near.
For early morning taxis, I think I am going to go back to my Costa Rica routine religiously, taking the taxi number and not being too shy about allowing the cabby to see the pen in my hand as I look at the door. For the 11:00 range, I think I might do better to have the woman go out by herself and get a cab on 9 de Julio or Cordoba, big streets each about a block away, away from hotels. But I haven't decided yet. I will have to decide tomorrow at 11:00 when my friend leaves. Unfortunately, I am worried it is not all that common for a young woman to take a cab if she hasn't been working.
Alternatively, I could let the woman fend for herself and not leave the hotel with her. That way, she can use her street instincts to decide how to manage. But I did have one other woman ask me to walk her past the park in front of the Dazzler, out to 9 de Julio. From various past experiences here and there, I am painfully aware that I am always being watched, and it is so easy to make a slip. I am also sure the greatest danger is to be seen parting anywhere, because thieves watching know the woman probably has money at that time, and may even follow her. Are there any other thoughts or experiences here?
Jaimito Cartero
09-20-03, 22:54
Here is a picture of Fabiona. She and Exon were at a restaurant in the mall by Jackson's place, and Elvis, Mickey Mouse, Jackson and I met there and talked for a bit. Seems like a nice lady.
I seem to recall MM saying he was going to get her before he left. I don't think he did though.
I photoshopped out Exon at his request. She's much nicer than him, anyway. ;)
First of all, Prokifiev, what´s the problem with a blond morena? Didn´t you ever hear of hair coloring? I´ve seen some fine looking black girls with blond hair! (ok, well one or two)
I hooked up with a girl last night named Fer, per Roxanna´s recommendation. Her performance was good but almost ruined because she had VBPO (Very Bad Pussy Odor). I don´t know about you guys, but that kind of kills the mood for me. She was also careful to leave right on the hour, which is just an observation, not a complaint, since I paid for and we agreed on one hour.
On an independent but related note I´m not going to pick anyone anymore from a picture. Pictures just don´t convey the chemistry that will or won´t happen when you meet, even if they are honest photos (which hers were). It just can´t be done in two dimensional silence.
Ok, onward. God, I love this place!
Well guys I guess you live and learn....Im in BA right now, and I decided to take a stroll to Orleans....picked up an ok looking brunette named Rosy....from Paraguay....
Guys, good lay, but avoid at all costs.....First off there where nothing but local guys in orleans tonight and so we leave and go back to my hotel....now mind you we had agreed to 300A for TLN... in the cab I verified that we where talking pesos...well she started off with a decent enough BBBJ, then went for the condom when it was time to do the deed round one....something told me give her the money now and see how she behaves.....I think subconsciously I broke this cardinal rule cuz I was done with her and after the 2 hours on a plane I was tired, and too tired to have any broad hangin round...this hammer has the nerve to come to me a few minute later and tell me its dollars....well I promptly told her to get bent....
Lesson 1, make sure that there is a common understanding on the currency involved..
Lesson 2, only go for the hour and then if you are interested in further engagements, or she is take it from there....
Good to get BA my cherry popped though, I have a good mind though to go back in there tomorrow and pick up one of her friends, I would judge her an even 7, nice real c cups, there was maybe an 9 in there but I left her alone cuz she wasnt after me and I wasnt up for the chase
Happy Hunting.
BTW the Sheratons make you register your guests, we will see if they try to charge me for her coming into the hotel
There's a bunch of new talent on escorts b aires dot com and I am pretty sure that "Yael" is my Salomé from Guemes 3221 if anybody wants to check her out.
Mickey Mouse, I saw your post in the Photo section which maybe is not where you wanted it to go. I am doing fine and thanks for trying unsuccessfully to buy me that blow job in Snob.
Lexton, actually Snob wasn't very busy when we were in there either. Overhead's gotta be high there so I am not optimistic.
Mongers, go to Snob! That is a nice place and we don't want it to close.
A few words about Fabiona --- She's a tall girl, about 5' 8" or 9" that hails from Paraguay --- Both her parents are from the Urkraine which gives her that Eastern Europe look --- I first met her while looking for my true love Roberta at Cafe Orleans --- Roberta not being preasant my eyes began to wonder and by watching Fabiona's body langush and eye contact I walked over and asked for her phone number --- A quick call to Roxana and Fabiona was in my hotel room an hour or so later --- Magnicficant proformance --- Excellent DFK and BBBJ skills and when it came to the main event as Moonbog would say "She does her jod Well" --- Well in fact better than well, "perfict" --- Roberta not being avialable for my final night I decided on Fabiona for my TLN and being proud of my find I arrianged to have her meet me at Monico's in Recoletta to meet Micky Mouse, Elvis and Jaimito Cartero whom took the picture --- They all seemed duly impressed then over to Jackson's to say thanks and goodby --- And even Jackson was impressed --- Then off to Porta Cryistial for dinner and back to the hotel --- I had no sooner sit down in a chair after walking in the door than Fabiona was nealing down in between my legs unziping my pants going down on me --- What A Woman --- I'll bet we spent half an hour messing around using all the furnture including the table in every immaginable possition before I could get her to the bedroom to finish her off --- Fabiona comes high on Exon's "Higly Recomended List" ---- Exon
Day four for me in BA and I already know I could live here forever. I´m staying at the LoiSuites in Recoleta. The hotel and staff are fabulous. The night doorman the other night offered to fix me up with a chica who he said would knock my socks off, for "only" 100 US DOLLARS! I just laughed and moved on.
I went to Cafe Newport around the corner last night and was quite underwhelmed. Very little to look at.
DocBill wrote:
"I hooked up with a girl last night named Fer, per Roxanna´s recommendation. Her performance was good but almost ruined because she had VBPO (Very Bad Pussy Odor)."
Is that the Fer from Brazil who is girl #20 on escorts b aires? If so that is too bad because I had her on my "to do" list.
Dickhead, I checked your girl and yes, that is definitely her. Other than that one problem she was great (and besides that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?).
OK. A forum search does not reveal similar problems and in fact she is recommended by Jackson (somebody said she was from Paraguay and not Brazil). Maybe it was an isolated incident but I think I will move her to the bottom of the list anyway. Why take a chance?
I've been with Fer 3 times and never noticed a problem. Several other guys from this board have also had good reports. She emails me from time to time.
She's tiny and very sweet, a little on the quiet side. She is from Paraguay and has one little one who lives there with Fer's mom. Good oral skills (Fer, not her mom). I'll continue to see her and report after Thansgiving.
Regarding Fer, my guess based on other reports and Jackson´s recommendation is that it was an isolated event. That having been said I won´t repeat - there´s too many fish in this sea. Having said that, I saw my blond morena (you heard right, Prokof!), Martina, again tonight. After a fabulous steak dinner I decided to have some other needs met and I didn´t want to deal with the club scene so I just called her. For AR$150 (US$50) she spent two incredible hours with me in my hotel room. Then she offered to stop by tomorrow and spend some time with me before she goes to the club (Cocodrillo´s) to work and she emphasized that it would be for free. Imagine that! She is very very sweet and pretty, with the best oral skills (bbbjtc) I´ve had yet in South America. She hates working the club and has a baby to care for, so if anyone wants her number I´m sure she would appreciate it and you wouldn´t be sorry.
Anyone know the latest on Snob´s club? Also, any opinions on Nuevo Estila?
Nuevo Estilo fucking RULES and beers are only 5 pesos. Tell Antonela El Toro Rojo says hi. Now THAT'S some tasty pussy. Great kisser too.
I wish I were there right now. Life in the burbs is so boring.
Jaimito Cartero
09-22-03, 03:09
Doc - Well, if she *really* loved you, she'd do you for free tonight. :)
Nothing is free in the long run.
I've had some girls in BA that definitely needed a good washing. I politely suggest it, and never had a problem. I'm a deep sea diver, so it needs to have a pleasant taste, or I'm not going in!
MiddleAgeGuy
09-22-03, 10:09
last day,
Well, leaving the haunts of BA again after a fairly lengthly stay, (2 weeks+ in BA). May have seen some of you in Orleans Sunday night around 7PM or so. IMHO, the talent is a bit shaky there but the price of a beer is at least reasonable. One of the guys got some help from a Spanish speaking American and the choice seemed pretty good. Orleans was mostly non-Argentine guys the 3 times I have gone, Brits and Americans.
Last Monday, I decided to try Affaire for a drink and a look. It was a poor showing, even up to 1AM. I guess Monday there is a slow evening. The choice of girls was not up to my taste, but then there were only 15 or so and I am told 35-40 on a good night.
Tried Hooks one Tuesday or Wednesday night, the same thing.
We did go to Madahos 2 evenings and IMHO, it is one of the best of the standard haunts.
This trip , I hooked up many evenings with one I had met at Madahos back in May, who had stopped working there shortly after. As some of you can imagine, this kind of set-up puts one in their comfort zone. I didn't bother to call some of the others I knew. I was nearly, but not, tempted by club crawls. Alas, after 2 weeks of this, a diversion/change is desired. Surprised myself actually. So keep those reports coming, and I will post something of worth when I have it next time.
MAG
Hey Jackson,
Sorry to burst in. I know the forum was down. Could you let us all know how the collecting went for the WSG Charities, and what figures you got in total.
Thanks.
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DocBill449
Estilo Nuevo has less girls than most other places, but in my opinion the highest average level. I agree with Dickhead.
Hey guys. I just wanted to tell you to keep your wits about you. I know several girls in BA. Most of them are sweet but some of them won't hesitate to con a sucker if she thinks he is stupid or weak. I just talked to a girl I know in BA. Here is a cut and paste of her IM's. (instant messages):
Girl: mi novio me manda dos mil dolares
Saint: Dios mio. Mucho dinero. Porque?
Girl: ah yo dije a elle necesito para una cirurgia...ja,ja,ja!
Saint: cirurgia de que? Elle es muy tonto! Vos sos una diabla!
Girl: yo dije tengo problemas de estomago. kkkkkkkkkkkkk
antes saco 4 mil dolares de un otro tonto. kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Long story short. She is telling me that some dude that thinks he is her boyfriend sent her $2,000 US. She told him that she needs surgery on her stomach. She said she has bad ulcer problems. She is bragging that another sent her $4,000. Anyway, I sincerely hope that none of the guys from the Forum are being conned. Guys can do what they want with their money. I only hope they know they are being conned. Good luck all.
P.S. Are you guys nuts??? Why even bother with a girl if she has an odor? For many girls an odor indicates that they have an STD (sexually transmittable disease). If you come across a girl that isn't clean and fresh...give her taxi fare and send her on her way.
Saint,
Hard to believe guys can be that nieve...read that stupid. PT Barnum was right...a sucker born every minute.
I will be back in BA the last two weeks of October. Looking forward to my fourth trip there this year. All the folks that said, "Go to Rio and you will appreciate BA more." were exactly right. Hope I see some of the mongers there.
Saint: ROTFLMAO right now. Good thing Dickheads are immune to such nonsense.
"Western Union? What's Western Union? Never heard of it. Electronic funds transfer? Is that like e-mail? Sorry baby. I'll buy you dinner when I get back in town."
BTW, a bad odor often indicates a yeast infection which is fairly minor and not really an "STD" per se, although guys can get 'em too. Usually the guy in that case thinks he has some kind of jock itch (don't ask me how I know this).
PS you should stop communicating with this chick.
Hey Dickhead. I totally agree with you. Guys often times email me asking me the cheapest way to send money to a chica in South America. I tell them NOT to send money. That is the cheapest way. The only money I've sent was with a non-pro that never asked me for money. She was a waitress that busted her ass working 10 hours a day for peanuts. Other times I've given way generous tips to waitresses at clubs. Although I think I'll stop doing that. This one girl from Playwoman I was super nice to called me out of the blue one day and emailed me another asking how I was. I guess she asked one of the girls for my number and email address.
Dickhead is right about the yeast infection but still. Like I said..why risk it? With the number of non fowl smelling girls in BA not worth the risk. LOL.
P.S. Dickhead. I've never given this girl my IM name. Her friend has me on her computer and she always is IM'ing and emailing me. She is a nice enough girl but I'd never session with her. I do get a kick out of chatting with her. Anyway, guys that send money to girls should really have their head examined. As I tell guys hundreds of times before. If you have the money, won't miss it, could care less what the girl does with the money and do NOT expect anything than by all means give.
Not all girls are BS'ers but still. One dude (I'm not sure if he is a WSG'er or not) heard a sob story which was true from a girl at Madaho's. He ended up giving her $1,000 US for her to go visit her family and take some time off from work. She was telling the truth and is with her family now thanks to you. I wouldn't have given it to her but I'm glad you did. If you're reading this...thanks.
Saint
Ok, can you guys enlighten me please? I have only been in BA a few days, so I´m still a dumb novice here, but having spent over a week in Rio recently it seems to me that the sex scene there is a lot better and easier (so far). Am I missing something? What is it that you guys like better about the scene here? Clearly BA is a better city to be in and/or live in overall, but the sex seemed easier and cheaper in Rio. Grasshopper awaits.
DocBill,
Rio is totally different than BA. Comparing them is like night and day. Granted, IMHO, both are in the major leagues of the hobby world. I haven't been going to Rio for that long but I've spent a good part of this year there. (I've been there 7 times since December).
Rio is so much easier than BA if you're looking for an easy score. Some guys like the thrill of the hunt. In Rio, as you know... sex is in your face almost 24/7. You go to a terma and there it is. You go to lunch and girls are soliciting you. You go to dinner...there are more girls. You go to discos and voila..more girls. It gets old after a while. I'm a big fan of the european looking girls so Rio can be tougher but the girls there are so passionate and you can always find your type there. There is no better girl in the world in bed than the Brasileira, in my opinion.
Rio is a touristy city. Copacabana is a dump. Although I've never experienced any crime the city can be dangerous. Even if you're not experiencing any real crime you have to put up with petty crap. Example, a few weeks ago I was there for a 2 week trip. I was hanging out with Kick Stand walking to the beach after lunch. All of a sudden we see some guy pointing at his shoes. He flinged shit on his shoes from at least 75 feet away. (these guys are good). So, instead of getting upset. Kick Stand just has the guy shine his shoes and we both walk away and laugh. The guy tries to get money and Kick Stand tells him that he knows he did it.
Buenos Aires is a real world class city. The girls there are more sophisticated. The sex isn't in your face 24/7. Yes, Rio is easy. Almost too easy. But take away the termas and I don't think Rio is all that. Both cities have "cheap and easy sex" but Rio has BA beat hands down on "cheap and EASY sex". I only know one amigo (Starfe) that didn't really like Rio but he was sick so maybe that had something to do with it.
I will always maintain that Rio is the easiest place in the world to get laid. (I don't count Asia because I'm not into that scene). Rio also has the advantages of the beach. It's nice hanging out on the beach with your favorite garota. I was with Seaman and Kick Stand on Copacabana and this hottie I was seeing a few days tells Kick Stand that she is my girlfriend. Kick Stand told her to "join the club". I caught shit for that later..ha, ha.
Just my 2 cents Grasshopper. Enjoy BA.
Saint
How cheap do you want? Rivadavia 1921 is 15 pesos for a half hour, 30 an hour and has several women to choose from.
How easy do you want? They are open 24-7 and are on the Subte line and the bus line. No appointment necessary.
How good do you want? Guemes 3221 has four girls and both the two I did were great. 60 the half hour and 80 the hour.
Don't like brothels? Go see Alejandra for 30 pesos the hour in her private apartment, on the Subte and bus line. Bring her an alfajor.
Don't like private apartments? Prefer your hotel? Want cheap, easy, good, fun? Go find María.
Want more brothels? See my posts from July and August or Andrés's reports.
Don't like the clubs downtown? Drinks too expensive? Go to Nuevo Estilo. Your drinks are 5, hers are 10, cover is 10 (15 on weekends), girls are awesome for 100-150. Show is lots of fun.
Want to make out with a bunch of gals at once? Go to Snob.
Too lazy to read the board? Backchannel me at richardhead41 at hot mail dot com and let me know what you want.
I haven't been to Rio but have mongered on five continents and Buenos Aires RULES.
OttoGraham
09-23-03, 02:12
Originally posted by Dickhead
BTW, a bad odor often indicates a yeast infection which is fairly minor and not really an "STD" per se, although guys can get 'em too. Usually the guy in that case thinks he has some kind of jock itch (don't ask me how I know this).
Womens' yeast infections are often caused by anti-biotics that kill off the beneficial bacteria down there. It can be contagious. Even a dickhead will know he has it because his balls itch like all get-out! See your doctor, certainly, if you've been out screwing the pooch and her puppies. But if you're reasonably sure it came from your one-and-only, it can be easily treated by giving your jewels and assorted equipment daily rubdowns with Monistat (yes, THAT Monistat) for a week or so. Athletes' Foot medication works too.
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.
-Uncle Otto
Yeah, Unc, I knew all that. Use the Monistat to jack off with a few times, do a real sloppy job, and problem solved. While you're at it rub it on your dick and fuck her because both partners need to be treated at the same time or you just pass it back and forth. Of course when I did or did not have that alleged problem Monistat was available by prescription only = the bad old days.
Now, lads, a yeast infection will NOT give you a discharge so if you have one of those hie ye to the doctor. You can get this shit in your throat too (or your ass, etc) depending on your proclivities (although I didn't I swear I swear, but I was married to a health professional). Condoms won't provide that much protection either cuz the shit drips everywhere. But better to have it on your balls than your shaft. Of course if you are among the 115% of males who jack off it will easily migrate.
BTW women who use birth control pills are more prone to yeast infections. Panty hose and hot weather can contribute also. Also it does NOT mean she cheated on you. That is why I say it is not an STD per se.
This post died the first time I tried to post it so:
Guys,
I've learned a great deal from this forum and others like it so I'm sharing my observations on BA just like many of you have.
That being said my assessment of BA is as follows:
It is a hard core pro kinda place, in fact it seems to attract the hardcore pros from other countries. Why I cannot figure, beyond interesting architecture, great food, and once having been the epicenter of modern day LA it has little to offer. While BA women can be very beautiful, they are a bit too euro for me.
In my 3 days here in BA so far I've had two mongering experiences: One out of Cafe Orleans, the other out of Madahos.
At the cafe I met up with Rosy, Paraguayan chica. Although she presents a good front as friendly I found her to be a shark. Cute, yes but her age whatever it is is starting to show around the eyes. Slim, very nice c-cups, well trimmed bush, feet a little more tore up then I'd prefer (mental note, check the toes more closely next time) Now I made a mistake, and I knew it as soon as I did but alas you live and learn, actually I made 2, one unintentional, the other very intentional.
Mistake numero uno: I negotiated for TLN. Bad idea, always test drive the car before you apply for long term financing.
Mistake number dos: I paid her before the night was over.
Now I'll explain. We agreed for 300 pesos for TLN, around lets say, 9pm. So we get back to the hotel for round one: a very short BBBJ, then the cover, then I went to work. Well after round one, I was kinda disinterested. This I think from the kid in the candy store syndrome so I really wanted to get rid of her, and figured I would try a test. If she passed great, if not, just as well. I paid her at this point which by now is 3 hours later. She, after about 10 minutes suddenly tells me its 3 hundred dollars at which time I told her no it was not, and in fact I specifically reiterated it was pesos in the taxi. While my spanish is not great, its passable enough for these levels of negotiations, so at this point I invite her to leave. Now I knew exactly what she was going to do when I gave her the money and she did it on cue.
This being said I would that the overall quality of Cafe Orleans must have taken a real header from everything I was told by an American investment banker that lives local. Also checked Cafe Exedra which on one night had 4-5 reasonable prospects, however there where also a lot of civilians (also read old people bystanding)
My second experience was take out from Madahos. An interesting club, me personally I prefer the grimier places. I didn't like the gold clubbish atmosphere, however I'm sure others would. Anyway, myself and two of my cohorts ended up taking out a trifecta. One buddy of mine got one previously mentioned on here. Natalia, or something to that effect, she was mentioned in a post I read as looking like Demi Moore, and was supposedly a drink *****. Well her I'll get back to. The other buddy took a very nice looking Brazilian, long blond hair, DDs, about 5 ft, 4 inches. Nice looking if you like the Pamela Anderson look-alike type. Not my style however. He got her for 200 Pesos, and from what I heard this morning, she gave great sex.. In fact he told me he had to ask her to leave. Her massage however was rather mediocre, or so he says.
Me, well I like big butts:D So I went out with a very tall light skinned Dominican. She seemed rather new, and rather inexperienced. She held that same kind of attraction a new used car does for anyone, despite the fact you have a car you still find this new one interesting. She turned out to be a clock watcher, but not the pro kinda clock watcher but the I'm too new to know anything about customer service kinda clock watcher. C-cups, very small waist, and very wide hips, just like I like em. Trimmed bush, no smell, very nice feet however. She was ok, I put her through her paces, and then she says she must go, but wants to see me tomorrow, to which I replied maybe but she needs to learn to relax a little and not be in such a rush if she wants to see me again. All in spanish mind you. 250 pesos 2 hours.
Now, Natalia, or Demi Moore or whatever you want to call her, she is actually Italian, brought to BA when she was 3 or so she says, as to being a drink *****, if you show me a girl in these clubs who is reasonably attractive, and is not a "drink *****" I've got a couple of bridges you might be interested in. Now my partner in crime was as I was a LA newbie, and in fact he's not a pro as far as mongers go, but he got out of the club only having bought her an OJ, and got her for 2 hours. Now from what I hear, this girl knows her stuff and is quite the lil racehorse. Plenty of talking about how she wanted the leche. I also understand that she is quite flexible. While he didn't have to kick her out she was in no hurry to leaver per se, and made sure she gave him every concievable piece of contact detail she could including her street address.
All things considered while I'm sure we could have gotten away with spending less per engagement I dont think we got gouged, or allowed ourselves to. Tonight's expedition was to Cattos, and while one of the our 3 man team was out two of us went hunting. Me having sworn a solemn oath that I was going to get a reasonable amount of sleep tonight I figured that I should abstain, and plus writing about this stuff is almost as good as doing it. So of the team one of us is getting our silver shined tonight, and I think the price he got was 100 pesos from a girl that actually spoke decent English. More to come on that tomorrow.
What I've learned:
1. If your type is the PR or DR type of Chica you are going to be in the hurt locker when visiting BA, some, but not much.
2. You can find DR Chicas however they want BA prices.
3. If you come to BA with no spanish, again, you are in the hurt locker. You will find at most 2 girls per club that speak passable english. What I did was get some spanish-english translation software for my handheld, an IPAQ to supplement my spanish. It helped a great deal
4. Never pay in dollars.
5. Avoid all Chicas who have traveled abroad. If she tells you this run for the hills, she will be trying to price herself as if shes in Paris.
6. Be prepared to register your Chica if you are at one of the 5 Sheratons in BA.
7. Food is cheap, wine is cheap, hotels are generally if they are mainstream priced in dollars.
8. Be patient, be prepared to wait them out, let them come and go, the later and emptier the clubs get the lower the prices.
9. Avoid anything that remotely resembles a pro, and agree on everything up front
10. Don't be afraid to show them the door, save the guilt complexes for your wife.
11. Don't feel obligated to buy drinks.
12. Always take the initiative on price, someone said it here and the advice is right on the money.
13. Don't be afraid to politely tell them they are priced way too high.
14. If she gives you a price in dollars she is a pro, see rule #9
That's all I can think of now,
happy hunting.
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An observant monger informs me I have been incorrectly posting about the brothel on Rivadavia. I said recently it was Rivadavia 1921. In fact the building is numbered both 1929 and 1931 and you want the first floor, number 7. No appointment needed and I don't have a phone number. 15 half hour, 30 the hour, everything covered.
Also 3221 Guemes is #2A and the phone is 4823-3150. Appointment IS needed and the hours are 10 to 10; last appointment at 9 PM. 60 the half and 80 the hour. BBJ; TC TBA.
Or try Alejandra 4382-3732. Address is Avenida de Mayo 1316 #7G and if you ring the bell tell her the rojo americano "el vecino" sent you. Bring her an alfajor. She is only available in the daytime as far as I know. 30 pesos and BBJ is "extra." Back door could be open but homey don't go there.
Just a brief refresher.
Thank you Saint, grasshopper stands enlightened, and I can definitely see what you´re talking about. Rio would get old for me real quickly, but I could see living here in BA, easily!
So after my US$7 veal scallopini dinner at La Strada here in Recoleta I waited an hour for my "freebie" which didn´t show up (ok, guys, spare me, I´m learning fast!), then headed out to Hook. I saw a cute Dominican gal while there with Jackson and another mongerer the other night that I was hoping to see again, and besides, I liked the girls there in general and it´s a relatively low pressure place. She was there, with her incredible laugh and very tight butt. She´s got a real great personality, very playful, and I had a good feeling about her. I bought her one drink (18 pesos or US$6) and then offered to take her home. Thanks to you guys I offered the price of AR$150 (US$50), which she readily accepted, and clarified that oral would be condom-free ("no problema!").
She was everything I hoped for and more: attentive, wild, energetic, crazy (good crazy) and with the best skills in all areas of sex that I have experienced in South America to date! I can´t say how long she stayed, because neither of us watched the clock, but after two very unrushed pops she gave me a nice long massage before leaving, as well as her phone number. Her name is Lucila, 24 years old, petite with long dark hair. Highly, highly recommended! The session was so good that after she left I wished I had given her more (but of course I have a responsibility here to my fellows!)!
This town rocks!
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