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Dickhead
11-03-03, 16:49
Jackson at one point recommended a place he said he thought was called the All Sports Cafe. My notes say it is three doors from Newport's. Further discussion of this should probably go in the General Info section.

Freak Show
11-03-03, 17:43
Hi there,

Hi guys. I am new to this board was looking for some help. I am planning a trip for New Years, either Argentina, Cancun, Cuba. Is anyone has any advice it would be great. I have heard about Platynum in argentina. Is it reliable? Are the girls real? I noticed there are no rates posted, and I noticed some of the girls are available in Mexico but not sure where.

Any help would be great. If anyone has used Platynum can they please advise me with details and rates and which girl. Is there anything like this available in Cancun?

Thanks

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Exon123
11-03-03, 20:11
Well Im quitly //// Did Claudia again last night, swore I'd never do it again, but I did /// As it started out so inoceintly just looking for a lunch partner I called her and her friend Luana, both Black Girls and had made a date /// Then got to thinking I should check in with Jackson and invited him to come along to the Alvaer Palace Hotel for Sunday brunch /// A little pricy at $75 ar per plate but what the hell Im on vacation /// The problem was Luana couldn't make it and Jackson left early for another engagement and I was left with Claudia alone /// And before I new it nature took its course for a TLN at my hotel /// Now don't get me wrong I really like Claudia but she doesn't hold a candle to Roberta, a Cafe Orlean's girl, but of course Roberta doesn't work weekends /// Course she doesn't have too /// Seams she had just gotten back from a trip to Paris France /// Which brings up a very interesting point /// Why would anyone import escorts too Paris /// Thats got you thinking doesn't it /// Well the answer is simple, Roberta is that good, no shes better than that good, the Best /// More to come latter /// Exon

MoonDog
11-03-03, 23:20
Chicago,

Try the sports bar just up the street from Newport.

Moondog

Thomaso276
11-04-03, 00:07
Hooters at the Recoleta Cine complex has Direct TV and games are on every Sunday. I have met some other ex-pats there to enjoy a game. The cable channel ESPN carries Sunday night and MNF so if you have cable in hotel (Channel 16) you should get the games. Remember time difference so games start much later. Watched the Pack last night and now it is time for Denver / NE. Action is usually pretty slow on these two nights so it is a pleasant diversion.

Jaimito Cartero
11-04-03, 01:17
Exon,

I'd say the reason they would bring Roberta to Paris is because it'd be cheaper. You would probably pay $500 or $600 per day for an equivalent (if that's possible) girl in France. If you bring her over for a week, you'd be out $750-$800 in airfare, and probably $500-$1000 for her.

ChicagoBoy23
11-04-03, 13:04
Thanks guys !

I have walked by but only seen rugby and soccer. I will go inside and try to bribe the bartender on sunday or monday

Exon123
11-04-03, 13:21
You might possiblely be right Jaimito Cartero --- But the fact is that Roberta puts Fabiana to shame --- Well maybe not to shame --- But shes sure got some thing I like --- Again I like cafe Orleans --- A lot of guys don't, but the fact is Orleans has women where as most of the Clubs are full of girls and theres a difference --- Nice to here from you Jaimito --- More latter --- Exon

Grshel1
11-04-03, 13:28
BA – October 2003

My fourth trip to Buenos Aires this year was well worth the time, money and effort to get there. As always, the people are friendly, the city is beautiful, the food is great and the women are lovely. Again, I stayed at Art Suites in Recoleta. It is quiet, has easy access to Recoleta and Centro, and the staff is fabulous.

This trip I concentrated my mongering outside the traditional Centro and Recoleta Clubs and cafes. Although, Emily from Madahos provided a bell ringing experience one evening.

Emily speaks decent English and has a smile that would melt Scrooge’s hard heart. The after drink negotiations began at 100 dollars which quickly became 300 pesos. The counter of 150 was rebuffed with an offer of 250 and we agreed on 200 pesos. Note: I am willing to pay more for a lady that speaks English. Perhaps I could save a fortune by learning the local language. The session included champagne, DATY (with Vigel), BBBJ, and multiple positions. The greedy wench wanted double pay for a second pop. That did not happen…the double pay…the second pop did. She left me smiling and with her home and cell numbers.

Part of my mongering was at Newport. I refer to Newport as the Wal-Mart for mongers. The drinks are cheaper, the ladies are friendly, and the crowd gives the air of a chase rather than fishing in a barrel. Of course, the Neiman-Marcus for mongering in BA is Black’s.

The ladies at Black’s, and many other clubs for that matter, have a new policy. They insist on a drink before they will negotiate a price and time. Kind of like buying a pig in a poke…all puns intended. At Black’s the new starting price is 200…200 dollars…not pesos. I saw two different ladies walk away when the monger wanted a lower price…and one of those ladies is available from the internet at 150 pesos.

I did some hunting in baited fields, the apartments. My last, and best, experience was at 1072 Larrea. Six extremely doable ladies were introduced. I passed on the redhead (my weakness) in favor of the petite English-speaking blonde. A full hour of all activities for 150 pesos. DATY, BBBJ, anal available but more money. The after sex conversation and massage was superb. The place is very clean, good hot shower with soap, shampoo and towel provided.

I did have a bit of a negative experience with a Platynum.com girl. The lady at my apartment door was the one pictured. BUT, gone was the makeup, gone was the immaculate coiffeur, and dire need of orthodontic care was a real turn off to me. The session was mechanical and professional, perhaps more on my part than hers.

Meeting six fellow mongers made the trip much more interesting. Whitecat, Miami, Nickster, Rob, Nemoid, and OH were all in town at one time or another during my stay. We shared tall tales, a meal or two, and some mongering of course. On my last visit to Orleans Café I met two Americans who arrived without a clue. One had stumbled onto Orleans on a previous trip and thought the sun rose and set on the place. I spent a bit of time marking their map with the club locations, giving advice about prices to pay, and suggesting an on-line visit to the wsgforum.

I cannot write a report without at least some culinary and cuisine comments. A local pharmacy owner recommended a restaurant at 460 United States (however you spell it in Spanish). It was about five minute cab ride from Orleans. Actually, the address is 461…across the street. 460 is a huge indoor flea market for locals. Nickster and I were the only two tourists in the restaurant. The décor is elegant, the service is excellent and the beef was the best flavored I had in Argentina. I was amused at the great show the waiter put on decanting the red wine and swirling it in the glass for tasting. The entrée was served as the waiter cut the meat with a spoon. Needless to say he did follow the grain but it was a nice touch. After paying and heading out the door, the spring thundershower had us concerned about hailing a cab. The doorman quickly dashed our worries and “cab-triver” producing a cab in short order.

Other excellent meals were had a Lola’s (rack of lamb), Munich (real tenderloin) and Plaza Mayor (most elegant as always).

Road rage is alive and well in BA. On the way to EZE for my return flight my mild mannered driver was almost forced into a concrete divider as we approached a tollbooth. The offending driver then stops in front of the toll booth, jumps out of his car, rants and raves, beats on the driver’s window, knocks the side mirror cockeyed and kicks the driver’s door. Bless my driver, he remains calm, records the offender’s license number and got me to EZE unscathed. Not sure if the road rage guy was on high-grade dog food or low-grade dope…I am guessing the second one there.

On to Rio in November. Life is wonderful.

Prokofiev
11-04-03, 14:48
Grshel,

What is Vigel?

Grshel1
11-04-03, 15:43
Vigel is a wonderful, magic, oil that goes on cool and heats up quickly on the lady's clit....amps the effect of DATY ...no affect on you. Costs a ton but only use a couple of drops each time...find it by going to yahoo and entering "vigel."

Leo
11-04-03, 22:12
Vigel no longer costs a ton, www.hmdistributor.com recently had it 2 1oz bottles for just over us$20, no shipping charge.

Jodomas
11-06-03, 12:55
Just got back from Argentina. My only regret is that I only had two nights in BA. It had been almost a year since my last visit. I was concern after reading some old posts about the chicas leaving Argentina for other countries were they can make more money. BA still a great mongering place.

Of the six clubs I visited, except for Salome, all had plenty of talent in the 7-8/10 range and a few 9'rs. The other clubs were Sodoma, Playwoman, Hook, Cattos, and the one with the best material Madahos.

All chicas started negotiating at $100 USD but did went down to 150 Pesos with little negotiation. Some friends were able to negotiate 100 Pesos with a bit more effort. I consider 150 Pesos a fair price if the service is good and good it was.

My plan for this trip was to visit some apartments, but with the tight schedule, I did not wanted to venture.

I read in a local newspaper how tourism is increasing in Argentina and how they are increasing their police force to make BA more secure. I did see a higher number of police walking the streets. Hopefully this new trend in tourism will help their economy. My only concern is this might push prices up.

I which I can add more but the regular posters in this board pretty much cover everything and I hate to be repetitive. Thankyou all.

jodomas

Marcos
11-06-03, 13:30
Jodomas,

It's reassuring for those like me that are about to arrive to know that things haven't changed too much and still there's talent to enjoy.

I think it would be great if you can add some more detail like the name that the girl use in the club and a brief physical description. No need for details about the services if you don't like or have no time, but it would enough to say if it's reccomended or not.

That would help at least the casual monger hitting the clubs in the next few week as we know the chicas changes frequently.

Thanks!

Rastaman
11-06-03, 14:17
Would someone please post the address for Madaho's???

MoonDog
11-06-03, 15:10
It is on the corner of Vincente Lopez and Azcuenaga, right up the street from Play Woman and Solid Gold. Come out of Club Newport, turn left to the corner, turn right, go to the next corner, keeping the cemetery on your right, and you will walk right into it.

Moondog

Jodomas
11-07-03, 04:28
Stoly,

I found the name of one chica written on a boarding pass stub. Her name is Marcela from Playwoman. This was her first week at Playwoman, a former Shampoo girl. She is trying to loss 4 kgs but she looks fine to me. Very hot in thight jeans. Nice round natural breast. I will rate her a solid 8 because of her 10 attitude.

Nice BBBJ to begin session, DATY, and a satisfying bang to finish. Overall a good experience.

I normally forget their names right after they tell me. I just call them Mi Amor. They almost always write their phone number and email but I allways throw them away. I like to try something different everynight.

jodomas

Exon123
11-07-03, 19:37
From time to time Mongers have reported on the apartment at 1707 santa Fe --- Having never seen anything negative written on the board today I decided to give it a try --- I give it a two thumbs up --- Everything said about 1707 Santa Fe is true --- Your greated by a woman that speaks little English with great care that you don´t see other guests --- I was lucky as there were seven girls available --- The worst being a 7 --- I chose Jessica, a total 9 --- Just the sweetest thing you could dream about --- Excellent service for $100 ar and a full hour --- Im going back for more --- And what I really liked is you get what you pay for their --- Not like the clubs which is a constent hessle for more money drinks, ectra, ectra ---- Exon

Dancesw/Chicas
11-08-03, 00:17
I agree with Exon 123 regarding the 3rd Floor at Sta Fe 1707. It is a nice place with a good value. However, once again the last post is an example of how misleading the 1-10 rating system can be.

At 1707 people in my age bracket (early 30's) will find nice looking girls, but a "9" is to close to a "10".... I ve' never been that lucky at this place.

I personally know what Exon think is a "model material" from Orleans and believe me people, many of you will be surprise.

One monger's "9" is someone else's 7...

Still, this "piso" is one of the best in BA.

Exon123
11-08-03, 20:54
Dances --- Im the first to admit theres some real porkers in Orleans --- But some true exceptions I might add --- Roberta for one --- Whom might be technicaly the finest F--K Ive ever had anywhere --- But back to 1707 Santa Fe --- The girls I found there were as good if not better than anything Ive seen in any club with no hassle --- No romance, no buying a bunch of drinks, no haggleing over the price, phone numbers and the rest of the people with their hand out --- Just good Value for ones money --- If theres was a joint like that in my home city there´d be a months waiting list - Exon

Dancesw/Chicas
11-08-03, 22:01
Exon,

If you are in BA at this time, go back to 1707 and try "Analia" or Camila (platynum "Yamila") but specially Analia. She is my own Maria!

DWC

Exon123
11-09-03, 16:00
Dances --- One final thing about beauty --- Ive got a College Frat Brother thats been in the Porn business for 25 years in Los Angeles -- Hes taken me twice to the Porn Show in Las Vegas -- This is one one connected to the big CES show where they give the awards for the best proformances --- From an insiders view of that experience Ive gotten to meat some of the biggests stars in the business personaly--- Now beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but Ive personaly met both Jill Kelly and Asia Carrera and many many others of that caliber --- Now its said there is no such thing as a 10 --- But both Asia Carrera & Jill are both 91/5´s, which I don´t think many would argue with --- Now Im telling You I saw some 9´s at 1707 Santa Fe the other day --- Matter o fact its Sunday or I´d be there right but of course their closed today so but Ill try your suggestion tomorrow ´--- Again Exon highly recomends 1707 Santa Fe for quality, price and proformance --- Exon

Knuckhead
11-09-03, 18:03
Hi guys!

Sorry to interject especially given my very limited experience, but I would like to second Exon's assertion about 1707 Sant Fe. I am saying this without any referrence to the subjective ratings of beauty, but mainly due to the fact that it is an excellent value and a sure thing. The one time I went there on Saturday night there were 6 cuties there ranging from 6 to 8.

Exon123
11-10-03, 15:06
All Bets Are Off ---- Last night I hooked up with OttoGram and his Amor for dinner at Porta Maderas, Estilo Campo restrarunt --- Truly fine dinning --- Great company and an excellent dinner --- Afterward going our separate ways I stopped into Madahos and and Solid Gold but found nothing to my liking --- It was late and walking home I thought I´d take one finnal chance and try New Port --- It took me 5 seconds to find her, Carolina a true amature her second night in a club --- Now its been said by Jackson and others that New Port is dicey at best --- I personally have had some horrible experiences at New Port --- Needless to say Carolina is the best experience Ive ever had in Buenos Aires --- Therefore Im giving up Roberta, Claudia,and will not grace the doors of 1707 Santa Fe or Cafe Orleans as Exon is saving his Bullets for Carolina --- What an experience, the woman is awsume --- I tried to get her to spent the night but tomorrow was a school day --- So the deal is shes due by my apartment at 8:00 pm tonight --- Horrible to report but Exon just might be in love --- More to come latter ---- Exon

MoonDog
11-10-03, 16:21
Exon,

Not love, but just enjoying the life. :)

Have fun,

Moondog

Slick1
11-10-03, 16:35
While Exon falling in love yet again is of no real importance to me, I was glad to hear that Estilo Campo is still turning out fine carne. Last visit I was seated across from approx. 1/4 of the Boca Juniors soccer team. I surmised they would know where some of the best beef is served. I look forward to a return visit when I arrive in 2 weeks. Since Uncle Otto is in town I will peruse the restaurant section looking for some more fine dining recommendations from our esteemed gourmand.

Mickey Mouse
11-11-03, 01:45
Hey Exon,

Nice to see you in lust again, and again. How long will you be there? Just might see you soon.

MM

Jaimito Cartero
11-11-03, 23:40
Exon - She is blonde, right? :)

Have fun while you're there, buddy. Ah, to be in love/lust in BA.

OttoGraham
11-12-03, 14:44
Warning about Madaho's

If you are a gringo visiting Madaho's, you will surely get to know a dark-haired, comely, English-speaking girl named Tatiana. She zeroes in on Americans like a Saddam Hussein carbomber zeroes in on G.I.s.

I can not say this from personal experience, as I was warned off her by El Jefe Jackson. But there are plenty of fellows who have both overpaid and have been under-compensated by her. I leave the details to others who might have been there, done that.

You might be a bit lazy to work on speaking Spanish with another girl, and tempted to date her, but a word to the wise being sufficient - avoid her. There are lots of other fish in the sea.

-Uncle Otto

Exon123
11-12-03, 17:37
I will second OttoGrams report regarding Tatiana --- She is bad news, stay away from her --- She feeds off guys that don´t speak Spanish --- Otto I truly enjoyed lunch with You, Jackson, Roxana and Capt Dave yesterday and hope you had a pleasent safe trip home --- Great food and even better company --- Wrong Jaimito Cartero --- Carolina has Jet Black hair with typical Argentine features, matter o fact a little heavy in the ass, but perfectlly exceptable --- Shes tall with great eyes that say Amor --- I just confirmed our third date for tonight --- The attraction of this girl is her innocience, shes just a plain wholesome nice girl that needs a few extra bucks to get threw life --- She lacks the true professionalism we mongers find in the clubs, doesn´t even ask of money --- And that fellow mongers is her attraction for me--- A true beginer --- Im such a dirty Fuck, I should be assamed of myself --- But Im Not --- She go´s to school in the mornings and works a job in the afternoons and just started working Saturday & Sunday nights at New Port --- I feel quite sure Carolina´s attraction too me is two fold --- She loves oral sex, especially DATY, (as she she said she had 4 orgasmo´s) the other night and my Wallet --- But what ever the reason I got a Love e-mail from her a few hours ago and while having lunch at the Cafe Orlean,s I confirmed our third date for tonight --- Eat your hearts out fellow Mongers --- More to cum latter --- Exon ---- P.S. Mickey Mouse --- I hope to be in town till the first part of December, unless Carolina cleans me out first --- Come on down the waters fine, he ,he , he ---- Exon

Mickey Mouse
11-12-03, 20:47
Exon,

I guess I will have to make the trip just to meet this new sweetheart of yours; besides, I could use a nice Steak and bottle of Malbec. Do you have any dinner plans this Monday?

MM

OttoGraham
11-13-03, 17:10
New Port Pub

I want to share a disturbing experience I had when visiting this club with another visiting monger of long experience and good taste.

One of the positive things/drawbacks of New Port Pub is the lack of house control over the mongering operation - gentlemen ladies are free to come and go as they please, and prices are about the same as you will find in a "non-pro" pub.

I stopped in with my amigo for a beer and he recognized one girl in the club - previously he had seen her either in New Port or another place (I cannot remember which he mentioned), but on that occasion, she had noticable "tracks" on her arms. On this time, she didn't. It is possible she could have been a different girl, my amigo being mistaken, of course. But anyway, definitely something to think carefully about when choosing a venue. The clubs like Madahos and Black do enforce some standards.

I don't want to go any further than that, we all know what the attendant risks can be.

Play safe.

-Uncle Otto

MoonDog
11-13-03, 19:18
Otto,

I'm confused. What do mean by tracks?

Moondog

ChicagoBoy23
11-13-03, 19:22
Drug user - needle marks on arms

high risk of STDs, not to mention somewhat whacko behavior

Exon123
11-13-03, 20:29
OK --- Heres the latest --- Were talking about taking the boat to Montevideo for Saturday & Sunday nights --- Thats Carolina and I of course --- And now Im torn between two worlds --- Carolina & the AMA meeting at Jacksons apartment --- Carolina has limated availabilty on week days ---- And Its Thursday remember --- Now if I don´t show up for the Mongers meeting at Jacksons I will never hear the end of it --- But if I don´t, I get to try Carolina in other varrious positions --- Actually I want to try the hot tub in one of the Tello´s, the old submarine races remember --- Well there´s a call into Roxana that will determine my fate but Im leaning more tward Jackson --- Wise man that he is, he once put his hand on my sholder, looked me right in the eye and said ¨its OK to Take a Day Off¨--- So maybe I will --- One final thing --- Carolina showed up at my place right on time last night and the first thing out of her mouth was ¨you were in New Port last night weren´t you ¨ --- Well Da --- Seems I was spotted in there by her Amiga and of course she couldn´t wait to snich we off to Carolina --- Fortunely I had left Solo --Seems nothing gets by thease girls --- Yes MIckey Mouse I´d love to have dinner with You Monday night --- More latter Exon

Dancesw/Chicas
11-13-03, 20:41
EXON 123!!
Come on!!!
I was hoping you'll try my recommedation at 1707!!!
Come on!!!
What! Now you are sugar daddy?
DWC

Mickey Mouse
11-13-03, 22:56
Exon,

The restaurant of your choice this Monday Night. Mayra & Roxana will know where to find me.

I'm starting to salivate already,

MM

Diente3000
11-14-03, 01:08
Hello,

The best massages of Bs As, were done by Malena. It is for recommending.

Good Luck

Jaimito Cartero
11-14-03, 03:31
Exon - Remember, "Gather ye rosebuds while ye may". I like to hang out with all the BA guys, but a roadtrip sounds like too much fun to pass up.

Hobby Fan
11-14-03, 03:53
Exon 123:

I vote with Jaime. Go to Uruguay with Carolina, a woman about whom you really care.

The Thursday Monger's club is great and Jackson is a kick, but a few odd-balls in the mix (and all are welcome) can make it an OK but less than memorable evening. Russian roulette. Also, we will be here on your next trip. You know your lady, and this is your chance with her.

Lets not get so jaded that we lose track of the fact that we are human, as are the ladies. OK, they are jealous or play jealous even when we know darn well that they see (lots of) other men. But that is because they are working, you see, whereas we have free choice to be 'good.' But the bottom line is that you have a good relationship with this woman, and you will have a weekend with her that you will never forget. Go for it.

Another option: Far better IMHO than Montevideo, closer and cheaper, is Colonia. Colonia is romantic evenings by moonlight, good quiet restaurants, colonial architecture, historic buildings, cafes and wide quiet streets. It is not a party town, though.

With a great woman, and I have been there with an angel, Colonia is an experience unrivaled in the 40 or so countries I have visited. If you decide on this option, send a private messate and I will give you hotel information, etc.

Please understand that I think Montevideo is great, too, but it is less unique than Colonia if you happen to come from a big city already or from a Western Country such as the U.S.

Good luck, HF

MoonDog
11-14-03, 05:49
Exon123,

One final thing --- Carolina showed up at my place right on time last night and the first thing out of her mouth was ¨you were in New Port last night weren´t you ¨ --- Well Da --- Seems I was spotted in there by her Amiga and of course she couldn´t wait to snich we off to Carolina --- Fortunely I had left Solo --Seems nothing gets by thease girls

You have experienced the LCN, the Latin Chica Network. Information travels so fast between their 1,000,000 gb minds, their mouths, and their cell phones. It is simply amazing how fast information travels, and how much they remember.

I walked into Madahos one night, and one of the girls described to me in detail the girl that I bought in and left with four months prior.

Have fun, :)

Moondog

El Aleman
11-14-03, 10:25
I also had the (questionable) pleasure to talk with Tatiana one night, and even buy her an too expensive drink. That, however was it.

The danger of taking her out is zero as long as one sticks to a price limit as often discussed in the forum. As far as I remember, she quoted (without beeing asked) a price of u$S 200, and the gap between that and the A$R 200 I offered was just too big.

I just returned fom a trip to Mexico, and you will find a report (most likely on Monday) in the Guadalajare section, which will contain some comparisons between Bs.As. and that City. Here only so much: Buenos Aires is unbeaten.

El Aleman

Exon123
11-14-03, 15:33
Exon Reporting --- First to Mickey Mouse --- Mickey we might have to make it Tuesday --- Hears the deal --- Seems Carolina has a final exam on Saturday morning and were taking today, Friday off, (thank God as I need the rest) so she can study for the test --- So the plan is to take the boat, 2 1/5 hours over to Montavideo on Sunday and spend a couple nights in a 4 star hotel in a package deal returning on Tuesday --- So keep in touch with Roxana and I´´ll be checking in --- OK now the news up date --- As I reported in yesterday afternoon I was going to use myself control and take the day off by attending the weekly AMA meeting at Jacksons apartment --- Now Im a grown man and I can say no --- Well as soon as I posted yesterday I went to the phone and checked in with Roxana --- ¨¨Exon Ive been trying to reach you all afternoon, Carolina will be at your apartment in 10 minutes¨ --- Now Im at Florida & Cordaba so I jump at a cab for Recoletta and am in the shower in less than 10 minutes --- Im all wet covered with soap and I hear the door bell -- OK --- I buzzer in and return to the shower --- Comes in --- I say momento --- Well that last for about two mimutes and Im shaving and in she comes Kissing me all over --- I look at her and she looks in the mirrior shes got shaving cream all over her face --- Well I tell her lets go to dinner in Porta Madero and she replies NO --- ¨¨lets us Please have sex first as food takes the edge off¨¨ --- And she would not take no for an answer --- She worked on me and --- Well the quicke lasted an hour and a half --- And I thought I could kill two birds with one stone --- So after dressing I took her over to Jacksons to show her off to the Mongers --- Thank God we got there before Jackson had started the regular Thursday night video show --- Realizing that was coming next I quickly got her out of their and off to dinner --- This girl is like a smoking habit --- You want to give it up but you just can´´t --- Ive just got to try harder ---- Exon

Member #1121
11-14-03, 19:07
Hello fellow board members,

I will be in BA this month from a Tuesday through Friday for the first time.
I don't speak any Spanish.

I have read a lot of the reports here and wanted to know what would you all recommend as a perfect itinerary for someone like me going there for the first time. Which clubs are a must? I don't intend on trying out Black's since people have written that it is overpriced.

I will be attending the Thanksgiving dinner on this trip and am looking forward to meet some of you guys there.

Also planning to take Roxana tour if she is available.

Is a day trip to Montvideo recommended or should I use that day in BA?

Thanks

Mickey Mouse
11-14-03, 22:18
Exon,

Tuesday it is! Roxana will know where to find me. BTW, Why try harder? Sit back, relax and Just enjoy it!

MM

Jak
11-14-03, 23:22
Since Tatiana has been mentioned as toxic on three occasions in the last three days, I can't resist the temptation to add an exclamation mark in order to freeze her out. I mentioned her several months ago as bad news, and one or two posters agreed with their own experiences at that time.

She introduced me to the thin blond Brazillian Queen as her friend ( I told her how she was rude to me for no reason when I talked with her several months earlier - she just turned and walked off). I don't remember this chica's name, but don't confuse her with another regular by the name of Liz - another thin blond Brazillian who is a sweetheart and quite sensitive (very recommended if you like this type).

Jaimito Cartero
11-14-03, 23:44
Exon - Hey, who said an old dog can't learn new tricks? Have fun on your trip! An interesting note, in Thailand, "smoke" is the word for a bj. So when you said she was like a smoking habit, it was doubly funny.

Exon123
11-15-03, 00:25
Hobby Fan --- I really appreiciate your advice but its Montevideo this time --- Couple reasons I guess --- One I just want to go and two so does Carolina --- Anything like this is a big treat for thease girls --- For an example last night at dinner we were talking --- Seems Carolina gos to college in the mornings and works a full time job in the afternoons --- So I had to ask her how much money she makes at her job --- $460 pecos a month --- Christ Sake OttoGram and a bunch of us spent that much for lunch the other day --- At the Cambio this morning I cashed in two $100 bills and got $564 pecos --- Point being this girl doesn,t make two hundred dollars a month --- Hell I´d be in New Port too --- But yet shes a beginner a true sweetheart --- I truly believe her when she said Im her second catch --- No Mas --- As someone said below thease girls are humman beings just like everyone else and I truly enjoy making things possiable that are impossiable for them --- Give and You shall Recieve --- Meaning if you treat thease girls right you´ll get it back 10 fold --- Im in Buenos Aires to have a good time --- What the Hell do I care, and to do so you need the right Chica --- Not the hard core Tatiana mentioned below --- This girl is a keeper and no Im not posting her phone number so all you Mongers can be all over her as soon as I leave town --- Thanks Jaimito Cartero --- And Mickey Mouse lets try for Tuesday, looking forward to seeing you --- More Reports to come latter --- Exon

Man
11-15-03, 16:28
Anyone knows a decent FREE Internet number in Buenos Aires?

I visited the city a few months ago, and at the timer was given a free internet access number.

Also, what is the current local charge for the phone per minute?

I use the internet for a few hours a day, and this stuff can add up.

Thanks for your help.

Marcos
11-15-03, 16:51
man, http://siteflash.alternativagratis.com/
But if you connect a lot, consider Artsuites has ethernet in all the rooms. They were full last time I checked, so good luck. (and good luck with the trading too).

Minimus
11-15-03, 19:08
Hello Gents,

Just wanted to give you guys a warning. Over Labor Day weekend, I went to Keops Spa to fool around with Celia on escortsargentina.com. While I was in the tub, or in the sauna, someone made off with my Mastercard debit card. I had left all my other cards in my apartment and I was able to cancel the card before anyone was able to use it.

I was stupid for trusting the situation, but suffered no harm from it. Just glad that all of you can benefit from it.

Man
11-15-03, 19:58
Thanks Stoly.

"Artsuites has ethernet in all the rooms"

AND NO PHONE CHARGES REGARDLESS OF HOW LONG I STAY ON?

Marcos
11-15-03, 20:33
man, sent you a PM. Let's delete this stuff after you got the info you need.

Elvis
11-16-03, 01:09
man,

For free, unlimited internet service I use Yahoo Argentina
http://ar.online.yahoo.com/
4004-1010

Exon, glad to hear you're having a great time.. Keep up the good reports !! Btw, Mickey Mouse, I sent you a PM. See ya..

Dale Arnold
11-16-03, 17:12
DUMB NEWBIE QUESTIONS!!

I am planning a trip to Argentina and had three dumb, newbie questions about the hobby in BA:

1) Some of the ladies shown on various escort agency websites are drop-dead gorgeous! Are agencies typically legit or are they scams that should be avoided?

2) Are the prices quoted on the websites all-inclusive or is this the starting point for negotiations?

3) I am assuming that the "$" here means peso - not USD. Is this correct?

I appreciate your help. Thanks!

James D 2004
11-16-03, 20:59
Does ethernet mean that you plug into the hotel LAN? A US hotel will be sued until the end of time if they don't warn the users enough.

Marcos
11-17-03, 08:18
Minimus, thanks for the heads-up. Sorry to see your first report had been about that! At least I hope the girl was good, if so let us know about her and more if you have!

Talland... this ethernet talk should really go to hotels section. But you're recently monopolizing that section too with your overplanning mindtrips. Argentina is not the US (surprise, surprise), so please save us from further babbling. If you have to go, just go, but for christ's sake see if you can post something that doesn't grant you an abrasive repy for once ...

Vsg888
11-17-03, 11:37
Colmenga Spa: prices and schedule

There have been several reports re: the Colmenga Spa. So for those interested, the following is a set of "official" prices and schedules that I recently got from Colmenga:

$195 (with massage of 1 h of duration). - Of Monday to Wednesday: $165

$160 (with massage of ½ h of duration). - Of Monday to Wednesday: $130

Installment x3 : $430

Schedule:
Monday through Friday from 11 to 21:30 Hs.
Saturdays from 11 to 2000 Hs.

Logan Lurker
11-17-03, 14:08
Hi All,

Just returned from BA, was much busier than I had expected so did not have much time for fun. This was my first mongering ever in the world, and it was okay. My hotel was the Dazzler, so no more info needed there.

With help from Ms. Roxana I saw Bettina from the Platynum site, (note spelling, there are several Bettina's of different spelling). She did not speak english as advertised. She also required money up front, which required a call from Roxana to straighten out given the language barrier and my refusal to pay up front. Her cost was 150 pesos plus taxi (10) for one hour. She did CBJ, lame FS, a brutal HJ, and no good deep kissing. Given the time required to figure out her up front payment she was gone pretty quickly after the action started. She was cute and sweet though, with a decent body and nice young look to her.

If anyone can recommend a nice young lolita looking thing who speaks english and is very nurturing and sweet (I am weak sexually, shot nervous system...) I would appreciate it. I will likely return to BA in a couple months. I realize I need to learn espanol to really take advantage of BA, and now I have a real incentive ;)

I also compiled numerous reports from this forum of special use to newbies, if anyone wants the full dump of them please send me a PM. They are geared towards those who have never mongered in BA and speak little spanish.

Lurk

El Aleman
11-17-03, 15:30
Dale Arnold:

Most of this has been adressed many times in the forum, but here a few quick answers:

The internet sites (NOT agencies - they are just advertising sites for the girls) vary. Some show the real thing, some are heavily airbrushed, some just fake, bait & switch.

The 2 sites where what you see is (mostly) what you get:

www.escorts-argentina.com
www.platynum com.ar

with the first, I have (good) personal experience.

The only website that quotes prices (as far as I presently know) is escorts-argentina, and these prices are U$S. However - don't take them too serious. Make your offer - and A$R 150 for 1 to 1.5 hours should be a good starting point.

If Spanish is not your best known language (and don't expect the girls to be anywhere near fluent in english) you might consider the service of Roxana, see her section in the forum. She is highly recomended.

Also, take the time and read the previous posts, maybe 3 to 5 months back. That will give you a very good idea about what is going on - and is fun.

El Aleman

OttoGraham
11-17-03, 19:26
Dale, if you are a first-time visitor to BsAs, I highly recommend you not make the internet your chief source of amusement. That should be reserved for the clubs, where you can see what is on offer before you buy. A good way to start is by attending a weekly AMA meeting on your first night in town.... ;)

-Uncle Otto

PS Do read this board for the last several months or even year. There is a great wealth of information available to you.

James D 2004
11-17-03, 20:33
Stoly, you are unfair to yourself since you talked about Ethernet in Art suites right here a few message before me. In my very brief message I managed to deal with two issues at once. First, know what you are doing before you plug it in, think about condom. Second, another guy complained in this forum that US is way behind in Ethernet connections. I gave the reason. As for the hotels section, guys like you really didn't take the hint. I have to tell you what exactly you have been missing over there.

MoonDog
11-17-03, 21:51
Dale Arnold,

With respect to www.escorts-argentina.com, they are 100% wysiwyg. Adriana, the webmistirss wiill be hapy to arrange the time and meeting place for you and your girl, but she will not negotiate price. You take care of that yourself, or use the services of Roxana.

Moondog

Dale Arnold
11-17-03, 23:11
Thank you Moon Dog, El Aleman & Otto Graham for your input. I will spend some more time perusing this board and then get in touch with Roxana.

Thanks again.

Hog Penny
11-18-03, 03:56
Hi again,

In continuing the timely postings, tonight was intended to hit several local clubs with a couple of other mongers I met up with.

But the rain cut that to about 4 and 2 of those had more guys then girls as in X guys and 0 girls.

So of the two, the first was club Black. We decided to have a look at such a "famous" place and the other posters have been quite accurate in the decription, entry is still 25 pesos including one drink. There were a few ultra hotties, one could have easily been a hollywood star (face, body, style) no kidding here. Many others were good looking as well, but only 2 or 3 others would clearly rate as 9 or 10 in terms of looks.

The rest (and there were close to twenty five girls at 10:30) were above average to average.

Now the interesting part, the two guys I was with are from the States, are Latinos by birth but regular American guys in bearing. Both speak Spanish very well and are in their thirties, dressed nicely, etc. The asking price from a couple of the girls present was U$D 300 /hr (each and separately) and they wouldn't budge. Maybe it was because the hour was so early but I was quite surprised that a fairly good looking guy with a complete command of Spanish couldn't get them to budge. I decided against any action after hearing the price at the beginning. Geez, even for the best of the crop, it is like prices back in the US. Maybe it was the timing or the approach but it may be that the chicas have engaged in price fixing a bit. Both girls that were approached refused to give out their phone numbers as well, so no opp for an after Black's call and meet.

Well, the next stop was Cafe Exedra and it was quite different in terms of atmosphere. Black seemed to be somewhat stiff and formal/professional, not exact on the wording for this. By comparison, people were talking and laughing in Exedra. There were some good looking girls as well, one of which matched 80 % of the chicas at Black. However, this is where my fellow mongers really enter the picture. One was sandbagged by a chica he took out before and the other snagged the hottest hottie before I could even spy her. The hottie's friend of course came along and the four of us chatted for quite awhile, had a few cortados (espresso like with foam, stronger than cappuccino and a small cup, like two or three shots). Great conversation, although I only caught portions of it (was in Spanish and I had to wait for the translation most of the time) but we had a good time.

Well, the trapped guy decided to take "his" chica out anyway and by this time the girl to my left was looking pretty decent and it was getting a bit late...

My fellow monger on the other hand was extremely happy with his choice and the four of us took off.

A short cab ride later me and "my" chica, call her N arrived and went up. In the light of my apartment, reality set in a bit more. She is a bit heavy and became less friendly and bubbly as compared to the club. She also insisted on the cash up front and like a weak newbie, I gave in, not wanting to let a night go by without some action (I will not be repeating that mistake going forward as I have recovered from my 36 hours w/o sleep and am recharged for the rest of my stay). The sex was OK, I had to don my George Lucas hat and direct all of the action but once given direction she did proceed with some skill (very nice 15 minute BJ, covered though). We (and by we, I mean me, not that I have illusions of royalty but rather that her moans and groans could have been lifted from a soundtrack) finished in mish, chatted for a bit and said good bye. Total price was AR $150 for the session plus 15 for the cab back.

Would not repeat, but like they say, you learn better by actually touching the hot stove and I am resolved to go forth tomorrow, with renewed purpose.

I also hope to hook up with Jackson and crew this Thursday for a more focused assault on the clubs with the Jedi Master himself (apologies if not a SW fan).

More to follow...

Hi Hog Penny,

1. In a business environment such as Blacks, a handsome appearance is irrelevant.

2. Blacks is a pointless exercise.

3. Please, never pay first.

4. Never tolerate a CBJ, unless you want it that way.

5. See you on Thursday.

Thanks,

Jackson

Slick1
11-18-03, 14:14
Jackson,

I will be back in town this Saturday thru the following Sunday. Perhaps we can set up a WSG charity food procurement during that time, sort of as prophylactic pennance for all the sins I am about to commit. I am sure I can come up with another donation to make it worthwhile. For all the other guys in town for the turkey feast, I look forward to meeting up for some clubbing. B69 and myself will be setting up shop at the Parera apts, where to quote Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber, the "beer will flow like wine and the women will flock like the salmon of capistrano." Post a message if you'll be in town.

Oh yeah Dickhead give me your email again so I can get directions and a phone # so we can hopefully deliver your Maria as promised.

Later

MoonDog
11-18-03, 16:27
Hog Penny,

You said: Well, the trapped guy decided to take "his" chica out anyway and by this time the girl to my left was looking pretty decent and it was getting a bit late...

Here is what happpens when you start making decisions after a few beers. :)

http://fun.drno.de/flash/beer.swf

Have fun,

Moondog

OttoGraham
11-18-03, 18:09
Hog Penny,

I was a customer at Black as recently as last week. I paid a third of what your friends were quoted. I don't speak very good Spanish, but I do know how to negotiate and how the place works.

I disagree with my good friend Jackson in that Black's is pointless. If you are the typical short-time Yankee visitor, it is a great place to visit and has the best selection in town. I've never overpaid, but "overpay" is clearly a relative term. You'll pay much less here for the same quality than you would in London, New York, or Paris, even at the price your friends were quoted.

Madaho's is clearly a great place to visit too, and the prices (and quality) tend to be slightly lower there than at Black. However on my last visit I did see some evidence of price inflation there.

I love both places.

As for Exedra, it is clearly a hit-or-miss thing, it is hard to generalize about what is available or when. I have gone here and have been happy with the pickings, but on other occasions, there wasn't much to see.

-Uncle Otto

Exon123
11-18-03, 18:43
Tuesday afternoon --- Just finsihed off Carolina --- And headed back to the room for a nap --- The best thing about Montivideo is the boat ride over and back --- But I had to do it --- Its an extreamly poor country and truly not much there for Mongers --- Now I didn't hit any clubs as I had Carolina and frankly didn't want to, but by just looking around I didn't see anything on the streets that would compare to Argentine woman --- That being said --- I took the night off and went on the prowl with Mickey Mouse --- First dinner at Estilo Campo --- Than world class Mongering in the down town clubs --- We hit them all two or three of them I'd never heard of --- But all were OK --- Got a great back rub in one of them and gave her 10 pecos for her trouble --- We ended up where we started --- Catto's & Hook --- Now Mickey likes Hook and of course I like Catto's --- Hooks girls seam a little younger and I like the really old ones -- Say 26 or 27 so we both went in different doors --- Well I cheated on Carolina with --- OH yea, Hana --- A tall 27 year old blond --- Not being a rookie we negociated everything before leaving the club --- 150 pecos --- Down from 200 --- BBBJ, Pay After, Hour and a Half, even 10 Pecos for the Taxi afterward --- I must say She preformed her job well --- One added commet --- As we got into the Taxi I asked the driver to turn on the meter --- Ive had this trouble before and charged 10 pecos for a 2 peso ride --- Never did find out what happend to Mickey --- I went over to say good night and he was groping some Chica and I was in kind of a hurry so I'll call hin latter --- More to Cum latter --- Exon

Jackson
11-18-03, 20:11
Otto,

When you're in Beijing, the price of rice in London, New York or Paris is irrelevant.

Just my opinion.

Thanks,

Jackson

OttoGraham
11-18-03, 20:41
Jefe,

I know the point you're making and I disagree with it. Here's why:

Most of the visitors to the WSG Argentina boards are foreign visitors who choose amongst destinations where they can have fun: London, Montreal, Thailand, etc...

Comparing what prices are from destination to destination is highly relevant when deciding where to go. For example, I used to visit London quite frequently for fun. I don't anymore, and it's not because there are 80-pesos-an-hour services available at some Buenos Aires apartments with 5s and 6s.

In the case of Black, there's no question that the quality of the girls is quite high, and I am familiar with some, but not all, other hobby destinations in the world. (And face it, if I wanted to fool around with a horse-faced girl, I could stay home and rely on my own looks to lure them in at the local disco.... ;) )

On a price-to-looks basis, the only place I've seen come close to Black is K-5 in Prague, which is excellent in its own right or even superior, since there is not only a club, but a restaurant, classy rooms, and normal massages/spa services available onsite to boot.

Most of the girls working Black could work in London or New York for $400 - $500 an hour and up. I can't say that about the girls in all the clubs/apartments/cafes in Buenos Aires.

-Uncle Otto

Dickhead
11-18-03, 21:46
Slick, I PMed you so let's keep it that way so as not to clutter up the board with stuff about you know who.

Trying to be good about that.

Micky Mouse, I hope you're having a great time down there. Drop me a line if you feel like it.

Party BMW
11-18-03, 22:48
Hi guys

I was in BA two weeks ago and went to the two best places:

#1 Black
#2 Madahos

Black's quality was unmatched when there were at least a few 10's and 9's. When I travel almost 5,000 miles I want some high quality. The price is steep for BA but that is the going rate in the US. Time should be the bargaining issue. I spent the night with a girl that looked like Cameron Diaz, a perfect TEN.

Note: There were some girls that were second tier "7's and below" that did not belong there.

Madaho's was up there with a hand full of 9's but the range was really 8'and 7's. The quantity was the best asset. To many to choose from, at a good price.

Special thanks to Jackson for a great tour.

I am going back in January. I can't wait!

OttoGraham
11-19-03, 03:33
Ferloga,

No, I've never been to Sao Paolo. My good friend Starfe has, though, and loves the place. I shall have to check it out sometime.

-Uncle Otto

MoonDog
11-19-03, 04:17
Ferolga777,

From what I have seen in Blacks, and the photos and reports that the guys have posted here and on other boards, the girls in Black cannot hold a candle to the girls of Sao Paulo for looks, personality, and sexual drive.

Moondog

El Aleman
11-19-03, 08:46
Uncle Otto,

I have to disagree!

I live in an industrialized, 1st world country where nobody in a sound state of mind will ever pay more than 200 Euro for an hour (today U$S 240). In fact, in the good fkk clubs, you get the hour at half that price, plus part of the entrance fee. What you don't get there is the relaxed GFE you can have in Bs.As. But you get the same quality of girls (look and sexual skills) as there.

So, for anybody living here, U$S 500 for an hour is just ridiculous.

The only explanations I have for prices like that are:
- it's illegal
- these places have become generally extremely expensive (which is true at my experience)
- supply and demand.

The same steak I pay U$S 35,- for in the States costs 20 in Europe (not London), and 6 in Argentina. A lawyer (partner in a well known Bs.As. firm) charges A$R 300 an hour. In NY?

So, please don't give that crap justifying U$S 300 an hour by ANY girl.

I still do agree with your gourmet tips...

El Aleman

Prazer
11-19-03, 14:25
Hello fellow skirt-o-files,

For whatever it is worth, various working amigas have told me the following about pricing policies at the BA clubs:

Tourists at Blacks are quoted US$200 for short term. Higher for TLN. All the girls try to maintain this level and are ostracized if they are discovered to have deviated (It's like a union rule). The policy is that they can not reenter the club once they leave, so this is why they cling to high pricing, they get one shot at a client each night. Also the doors close at midnight, if a chica arrives later she cannot get in that night.

Supply and demand, the time of night/weekday, etc. may have an erosive effect. Personally I have not gone above US$100, but that is probably due to the small dick discount. I was asked by the chicas not to tell anyone for fear of retribution (Maybe they have some twisted girl on girl sado act for offenders, LOL.)

Madahos is US$150-200 for ST, but locals pay the same rate in pesos. The chicas will aim for the higher paying foreigners, but some can pull 4-5 scores in a night, which makes them more amenable to accepting less than the list price.

For those who have made references to the Sao Paulo clubs, there is really no comparison except that many Brasileiras now work in BA. The top SP clubs are packed to the rafters with beautiful, engaging, fun loving sex addicts, who will treat the white man to repeated and sustained "Shock and Awe Pussy" sessions, leaving their partners sheet drooling in a semilobotomized state of exhaustion. In my experience, they are concerned with the quality of the sex first, the money, -well they tend to forget all about it until you slip them some bills the next afternoon.... if you are still mentally capable of counting the currency.

That to me is the main difference between BA and SP.

Happy trails.

Prazer

OttoGraham
11-19-03, 14:47
El Aleman, mi buen amigo, I never justified paying $300 per hour to a trixie at Black. I also have never paid this sum for any Blacks girl; not even close. You will note that last week I said I paid a third of this sum. “Asking price” is not the real price, not in this place.

But the truth is, for vacationing businessmen-types who want a selection of top-shelf companionship, $300 an hour is not an outrageous price.

You say that in a modern First World economy “nobody in a sound state of mind” pays more than $240 an hour for sex. I don’t agree with you.

All I need to do is look at some websites to show what some prices may be for comparable girls. The prices are more than for the same types of girls found at Black.

A good example of a site with girls comparable to Black is www.venusescort.com, which is a popular and ethical agency located in Germany. Two hours’ private time with most of these girls runs 800 Euros ($480.00).

Germany is not a good example? So let’s look at one of London’s leading internet agencies with comparable girls. www.caprice-escorts.co.uk 300 Pounds Sterling (US$480) for an hour.

Still not convinced? OK, a U.S. agency with a good reputation and comparable selection is www.miamicompanions.com. Fees run from $350 to $450 an hour.

These are but three agencies with which either I or one of my amigos has had personal dealings. All of them exceed the “asking price” of the girls at Black, for roughly comparable merchandise. Can you get sex cheaper than this? Sure. But let’s compare apples to apples – we are talking about young, well groomed, good-looking trixies.

I think one of the traps that a short-time visitor to Argentina can fall into is searching far and wide for the cheapest service possible; while I do agree with the oft-repeated statement that in Buenos Aires there is no fixed correlation between price and level of service, I do believe there definitely IS a correlation between how good-looking a girl is and the price she can command.

I am not interested in paying 100 pesos to a woman who has obviously been “rode hard and put away wet,” which to be honest is the appearance of a lot of the girls on the program in BsAs. If I am going to spend a lot of money buying an international plane ticket, and renting a nice hotel, I prefer, as a visiting monger, to do my fishing in the higher-class ponds, not the local river where every Porteno fishes. Can visiting such places be fun? Of course. But I am not going to Buenos Aires because of what is on offer at Affaire Puerrydon or other lesser places. But to each his own.

-Uncle Otto

P.S.: I should say I have not been to any FKK clubs, but from your great description I think I should visit. If I visit Germany will you be kind enough to introduce me?

Marcos
11-19-03, 14:49
Finally I made it back to BA, where I going to spend the austral summer.

Arrived early in the morning, and meet misty wheater with a fine rain that turned into showers in the afternoon. Forecast isn't very promising for the next weeks too, we'll see.

Waiting for my apartment to be cleaned, I headed to the microcentro to a massage center on Esmeralda 877, 1a. The building is very oriented to this kind of services as I know at least another apartment on the fourth floor. Meet Karina that is not ugly and slim enough, while supposely you can have Bettina after 12am, she's featured w/ nice pics on platynum under massages. Massage was good for 80 an hour and included an HJ. 30 more buys you a BJ and 50 FS. I opted for the latter but thinking after it wasn't really worth it. But after a long very long) air trip I really think a serious massage is what you need most. The receptions is the probably the hottest girl there but (I think) she doesn't attend. Ph. 4312-2206 or 4311-1913.

Around midday I wanted to check out French 2254 and guys I think I can now officialy announce that this great house is now history. Buzzed and was nicely told that the previous occupants have left. If I was the person answering the intercom I wouldn't have been so patient and just sent the hassler to hell. But hey, I love the good manners they have in this city.

Another fruitless tour was to Café Orleans. There were some 8-10 older ladies, not attractive, exception being a slim black and a young brunette, named Nerina or something like that. She wasn't very good at promoting herself so I passed on her request for 150 plus 40 for the room.

Things took a better turn at night when I took Soledad out of Affaire on Guido. She's a tall, hot brunette, typical porteña with long black hair, strong body and a very positive attitude. She's lactating, and that was an interesting first for me. I must say she was pretty much the only possible choice that night but I was happy anyway. No english and many tattoos, if you haven't a problem with that, I would recommend her. Affair rules haven't changed, 30 to get in with one drink (you can bargain to 20 for a domestic or soda drink) and 25 for the chica drink to have leave one hour and thirty. Two energetic rounds and a lot of attention from her warranted the 150 I gave her.

That was all for the first day and I'll keep reporting, but don't expect too much, I need to be a good boy too and can't burn cash at this rate if I want to stay as long as I planned.

Have fun guys!

El Aleman
11-19-03, 15:44
Uncle Otto,

If you lack the experience of the FKK clubs, you should try that one day. If I can manage to get away (from business and domestic commitments) I will be more than happy to introduce you - if not, I will at least provide you with all information you might need. For a beginning, read the Germany and German FKK sections of this forum, they give a quite realistic impression of what to expect.

I am aware of agencies like venusescort, however, I doubt they do much business with people familiar with the scene in Germany. I would expect them to cater mainly, as you say, to the travelling businessman (from overseas), and their financial expectations are accordingly.

I mentioned the FKK's, because that is where to find your "young, well groomed, good-looking trixies" at the price range I wrote about - and in a wide selection to choice. I would consider these the "higher class ponds" of my country. So, at least I would never pay $ 500 for an hour, and while in the US I just leave it - ok, that usually is for about a week.

I absolutely agree with your statement about the "trap" of searching the cheapest pop available while having only limited time. My experiences are all not from dedicated mongering trips, rather from trips made for other purposes (usually business) which leave enough time to enjoy myself. I spent quite some pesos on and with girls in Buenos Aires, and don't regret a single one of it. I just don't get it, if at any given place a working girl thinks her service being worth three times as much as that of a well educated professional.

Enough of that. I did not want to start a flame war, I suggest a bottle of good Malbec for both of us to calm down. My reference to one's state of mind might have been a bit harsh - apologies.

Un abrazo,

tu amigo aleman.

OttoGraham
11-19-03, 15:54
No worries, there's no flaming here, Aleman. While we can disagree about some things I think it's important we discuss this issue for the benefit of our readers who don't know what things are really like in Buenos Aires. There's really no "right" or "wrong" opinion here. If we all agreed on everything, this place would be dreadfully boring.


-Uncle Otto

P.S. A friend did a couple of hours with Yolanda from Venus - he swears she is the best drill he has ever had. You might want to check her out.

Mickey Mouse
11-19-03, 17:59
Hi all,

I have hit the ground running and I've been in an all out sprint in my first 48 hrs.

Day 1:
After arriving on monday, Roxana set up an appt for me with Natalya from Platynum. Gentlemen, I highly recommend her! She walked through the door. put her arms around me, her tongue down my throat and we had 2 1/2 hrs (250p) of endless love with all the anacronyms and 4 trips to the bank. She did it all and enjoyed it too. You can´t fake the perspiration, pounding heart and that sweet nectar. I´m not sure if I regained my fountain of youth or she was that incredible or I had just saved up too long, but what a welcome!

After a quick nap and a shower it was time to meet Exon for dinner and a night of exploration. This night it was DH's turf: Suipache (sp), Cordoba etc.. We started at Hook's (my favorite), Catto´s (Exon´s favorite) then a trip to Snob and around the corner (DH, help me with this name, the blonde dancer?). I have been here too often already since I ran into a quite few ladies who welcomed me back with hugs and kisses. What memories! Snob, had an ok selection, but couldn´t come to terms w/ my girl She wanted 250p for 2 hrs). And DH, I think "Our" adventure there was a 1 time thing since I couldn´t get any free BBBJ´s downstairs. The drinks are still 15p ea.

Around the corner on Suipache: lousy selection, but Exon got a great back and neck rub at the bar.

Ness: There were a lot of ladies here this night includine quite a few good lookers. Thank god for phone # collections, this where I found Yvonne for the next day´s afternoon rendezvous (another recommendation)

Catto's: Good selection and as usual, Exon finds the best looking tall Blonde
Hook's: I still think is the Best Bang for the Buck! You´re not going to believe this, but I brought home an old favorite (Jessica) for an all nighter. I just couldn´t help myself. She is so special, for me anyway.

Day 2: After my pm meeting, another nap and shower then off to meet Exon again for another Lomo Dinner at Parillon. Raspu (head cook) is one of the Best Grill cooks I have ever seen. He cut up a fresh Tenderloin (2 1/2 " thick) for each of us. A bottle of wine, a couple martinin´s, a great meal and it was time.

Affaire (the other one)(Pueyrredon & Paraguay): An incall bar, w-house. Just walk on in and you´ll be greeted by an assortment of girls kneeling on their barstools, leaning over the bar with arms on the bar. You have to picture this, you´re just staring at a bar of rear ends & X-rated shows on the tv! What a site! 80p for 30 min, 150 for the hour and right upstairs, but didn´t partake beceause I realy didn´t see anything I wanted, just enjoyed the view.

Playwoman: Closed

Solid Gold: Loaded with good looking young talent, but too crowded and busy for us.

Newport: Too crowded and too many guys.

Madahos: Ok, here we go. I was flying solo and was thinking about the feature dancer I met last time. Guess what, she´s not there anymore, what a bummer, but there is new talent I might meet except it is now 200p just for the drink. I did see Jackson and we had a nice chat, but then it was time: Sorry guys, I really don´t remember her name (I think Veronica), but I'll find out. We negotiated at 250 for 2 hrs, a bit on the high side for me, but I wasn't in the mood to really bargain. I figured, I´ll get what I paid for. Guess what, wrong! After 40 minutes I asked her to leave because it was unbearable. I'm not sure if she wasn't in the mood, didn't like me or what, but when she insisted on a condom while jerking me off, that was it! I prorated the fee and said Goodbye! Lesson learned.

It was a good thing that when I was waiting for her to change before leaving Madahos, I spotted a beautiful tall, slender, well proportioned.... well you know. Being a boy scout and always well prepared, I quickly walked over said Hi, handed her my hotel's business card w/ my room # on the back and asked her to stop by the next day (today) at 2. Gentlemen, Celeste is a true find, she has been here 2 months and enjoys it all. I will give Roxana her #. A bust the night before turns into a gem the next day due to an impulsive moment. You have to love BA.

Tonight: Another dining experience with Exon then I thought we´d see a show, somewhere he has never been. Ah yes, Nuevo Estillo, DH's favorite spot. I will give them your best regards.

Elvis, I have your Bachelor Party all set up.

Franco, I'm doing my best to keep up the best traditions.

DH, I'm sending your regards everywhere I go that knows you, look forward to hearing from you.

Boy I'm getting long winded in my old age,

MM

Man
11-19-03, 20:03
Looking to stay in BA for a full month.
Any recommendations of a long stay well priced hotels?

Jaimito Cartero
11-20-03, 08:09
Man - There are a number of options. I'd opt for an apartment, myself. Mayra does housing stuff, you can find her link in the FAQ, I believe.

Jackson also rents out his place when he's not there, if you like a really nice place.

I'm hoping to stay a month next year, and when I did searches, I found what looked to be nice places for $400 a month. I'm a "less is more" type of guy, so you might spend more money for a nicer place.

I saw the apartment that Elvis rented (a studio) in June. I think it was under $400 a month.

Man
11-20-03, 17:41
Thanks Jaimito.

I work on the Internet, and so my plan is to work while I enjoy the city. I don't see the sense in paying $60.00 a day, when I plan a long term stay.

All I want is a decent furnished place with a phone, and I am flexible.

Not looking for the cheapest place, and I was told that it is reasonable to find places for $400-$700 a month. That sound better to me than $2.000 a month.

So depending on the actual place, location. New or old, and other factors, I have no problem paying the higher end $700.

Anything fits the bill?

Who is Elvis, and who is Mayra?
Thanks
Man

MoonDog
11-20-03, 18:03
Prazer said:

For those who have made references to the Sao Paulo clubs, there is really no comparison except that many Brasileiras now work in BA. The top SP clubs are packed to the rafters with beautiful, engaging, fun loving sex addicts, who will treat the white man to repeated and sustained "Shock and Awe Pussy" sessions, leaving their partners sheet drooling in a semilobotomized state of exhaustion. In my experience, they are concerned with the quality of the sex first, the money, -well they tend to forget all about it until you slip them some bills the next afternoon.... if you are still mentally capable of counting the currency.

I couldn't agree with you more. The Paulista garotas are absolutely amazing in their sexuality, beauty, stamina, and just plain loving life. They love it, and if you want to take a break from the sex, they think something is wrong. Money is rarely even mentioned even for good all night sessions.

Thanks for the post.

Moondog

MiddleAgeGuy
11-20-03, 19:13
Mickey Mouse,
Hey Mik, I was wondering if you could arrange a little 'experiment' for the board members? If you, (or perhaps Exon, as she will know your voice), could call up Natalya via phone and see what the rate and services would be. It would be interesting to see what the differences/ similarities are between an arrangement vs cold call. (Does she really speak English?)
As some of the internet chicas also work the clubs, has anyone checked out the difference in Chica Only costs via phone vs a meet at the Clubs, (excluding Club costs)?
Thanks, MAG

OttoGraham
11-20-03, 19:16
Originally posted by man
who is Mayra?


Mayra is the proprietor of the travel agency www.argentinago.com. She's a personal friend to me and many others on this board. You can email her at mayra@argentinago.com

I highly recommend that you engage her services in your search for an apartment.

-Uncle Otto

Hog Penny
11-20-03, 20:37
Day 1 (going back in time a bit)

Well, the trip started out well enough insofar as the travel, but now onto the important things, the food and the women!

I got to the apartment around 1:30 and had a city tour with Roxana for 3 and a dinner date for 8. I was feeling a bit tired but the thought of spending a very pleasant evening with a beautiful portena can do wonders for your energy level.

The tour itself was nice, Roxana speaks English quite well and we chatted half and half (eng/span) to ease me into the scene. We went to Boca, Puerto Madero, el Centro, etc. and saw some of the highlights of each section. I now have a better idea of what I want to see in detail.

However, the tour did involve a lot of walking as well and I was really beat by the time I got back to the apartment at 6:15. I took a quick siesta, showered and my date showed up promptly at 8 (in fact, all of my appointments have been on time, perhaps this is a new thing for the chicas). This was also arranged through Roxana for an internet chica and her appearance was actually better than the pictures. "R" was very tanned and toned, a real killer body in a black leather skirt and low cut red top. Her large (and natural it turns out) breasts kept wanting to say Hi and she had to adjust her top several times throughout the evening. Needless to say, I did not mind watching the adjustment (although neither did this one old guy at the restaurant either).
We ate at Cabana las Lilas in Puerto Madero (the old port region). The place was nicely elegant, waterfront seating (with strategicly placed heat vents, a bit cool right now in BA). We started with a small variety of do-it-yourself tapas including several types of bread, cheese, roasted tomatoes, etc. Very nice. The main course was bife de lomo (tender loin beef) of course (it's what's for dinner after all, lunch too). An excellent selection and flavor, done exactly as I had asked and served with buttery mashed potatoes. Some excellent apple pie with ice cream capped a wonderful meal. With wine and tip the total was something like 110 pesos, although I can't recall the exact amount. Still, back home this would have been close to 80-100 USD so anyway you slice it, life is good here. Throught the entire dinner, I was able to have a great conversation about politics, life in general and even a little philosophy with my date, turns out she is also a lawyer! However, with the economy being what it is and that the Argentines don't seem to be quite as given to litigation as we Americans, there are many professionals without work.

Speaking of life, now that I had dispatched with the rumblings of the belly, the call of another body part was really asserting itself and we promptly left for the apartment.
R was very passionate and seemed to be really attentive to me. We spent some time fooling around on the couch and then had some real "quality time" in the bedroom. My report will likely not feature lots of graphic detail (although I do appreciate it quite a bit in other reports) but suffice to say, I was quite satisfied with the whole encounter. The evening itself was the whole experience, really felt like a real date and thus the entire experience was that much better. I am definitely a quality over quantity kind of guy. I know there are many other members that would likely qualify for the US fornication team (if it existed) but that isn't me.

Then it was time to pass out and get ready for another day in paradise but lady luck was going to swing the other hand a bit. I will be adding a short update to the other posts soon.

Elvis
11-20-03, 22:55
man,

that's me !! If you're looking to rent an apartment and not spend a lot, there are a few listings at www.bytargentina.com

This is the studio I rented back in June.
http://www.bytargentina.com/re/propview.php?&ano_ing=&dia_ing=&mes_ing=&ano_sal=&dia_sal=&mes_sal=&apartmentclose=&view=79

It's a block away from Madahos/Playwomen and if you want something cheaper, you will find girls working in that corner (it's a pretty safe area though) :)

It's 1,200 pesos a month. Plus it includes telephone(use the free internet dial up) and you're all set.

Although this apartment is much more expensive US$980 a month, this place in Palermo is great !!http://www.bytargentina.com/re/propview.php?view=431&tmo=2&tyr=2004#abajo

Elvis
11-20-03, 23:50
MM,

Glad to hear from ya !!Wow, Natalya is buenisima.. Btw, which drink at Madahos is 200 pesos ?

So, the bachelor party is all set up.. Yeah- Muchas mujeres, I want muchas mujeres.. :) :)

Jaime,

when are you planning to visit BA again ?

0919
11-21-03, 00:06
has anyone used the ladies from feewoman web site and are the pics legit or bait and switch-thanks for your reply

Elvis
11-21-03, 00:26
0919,

bait and switch !

Jaimito Cartero
11-21-03, 02:27
Elvis - Working on coming to BA for either 2 weeks or a month. I might split a month with 1/2 in GIG and 1/2 EZE. I've got so many places I'd like to check out. Colombia, Eastern Europe and maybe Laos and El Salvador thrown in.

I'll have two months of "mongering" vacation time saved up for next year.

Send me some pictures of Marisol!

Teacup
11-21-03, 03:55
Natalya (see posts below) and I hooked up in May at the Sheraton, all arranged by the thoroughly magnificant Rox who Rocks.

300p for three hours, and it was damn near life-ending for me.

English skills? Forget it, although 6 months has passed since she and I did the horizontal tango, so maybe things have improved. We dug out my Eng to Spa phrase book, and had a good laugh at the rude bits. It was a Lonely Planet book BTW, which explains the rude bits.

If it wasn't for the fact that she is a hooker, I would have taken her home to meet mother!

Chuponalgas
11-21-03, 04:20
If you want to see Rio AND Buenos Aires, check out the Internet only sale at www.varig.com. Can do combined trip from Miami or LAX for about $600.

Dancesw/Chicas
11-21-03, 14:29
Question to Andres, Jackson and all ther experts.

This morning I got a phone call from this beautiful model, promotora from BA. She is 18 y/old and she just called to said hello and see if I am seeing anyone (she gets jealous, even when SHE has a boyfriend!) Anyway, here in the US, girls of that age will not be responding to me ( and I am only 31!!) however in Buenos Aires they just don't seem to care!!! I have all kind of theories from phychology to cultural environment but I am really curious to know what you guys think is the reason.

DWC

OttoGraham
11-21-03, 14:45
Uhhhhhh.........

Maybe she wants you to go to Friday night Bible study with her?

-Uncle Otto

Prazer
11-21-03, 16:19
DancesWithChicas,

I am glad you reported this problem. It could have gotten ugly for you in a hurry, I have seen it before.

You must immediately break off all contact with this 18 year old piranha and instead refer her to me. I will handle the situation for you, deploying appropriate measures as called for. You can thank me later, that is not important now.

Please act immediately. And under no circumstances let her up to your room as she will likely attempt to drain you of vital fluids, which will leave you in a state of exhaustion and confusion.

Again, smart of you to alert the board. I will swing into action as soon as you forward me the girl's details. There is no time to waste, she sounds desperate and dangerous.

Prazer

Charly
11-21-03, 16:49
He he, yeah right Uncle Otti, let's pray for him that this is true. Otherwise let's assume dancesw/chicas just wants to let us officially know how well he can 'dance' with young Argentinian muchachas.

dancesw/chicas : can you please post a photo of your promotora model chica in the photographs section so that we can better help ;) you with your request?

By the way Ilickbuttocks (I mean you Chuponalgas!): Do you know of any special return airfare Rio - BsAs. What carrier's the cheapest: Varig, TAM, A.Argentinas, BRA...? Is there any known conex between the two city (!) airports (i.e., neither EZE nor GIG)?

See you soon at Puerto Madero (or at Blacks),

Charly Charlinsky (or Carlos Carlinscos en Espanol :) )

Andres
11-21-03, 17:45
Dancesw/chicas:

Maybe the girl has a boring life or maybe you triggered some interest in her.

I guess that, more of an age issue, it is an "environmental" issue: People in America don't have as many cross-generational opportunities as we do here. That is, in the US people from different ages rarely share activities beyond church and family, due to either secluded activities (students immersed in campuses, professionals immersed in facilities, etc), to cultural issues (a 18 y/o girl in the US may have a 1/3th of the cross-cultural preparation of an 18 y/o Argentinian counterpart) or to legal issues (you won't find an 18 y/o girl in an Bostonian pub since she can't drink).

Hope this helps,

Andres

Mickey Mouse
11-21-03, 17:47
MAG: Yes, Natalya is second to None in energy and enthusiasm. You can be at your peak and I guarantee it won't be enough. BTW, she does not speak english as advertised and the experiment you suggest is a great idea. I may try and set it up because my believes are the same.

Elvis: There will be Muchas, Muchas Mujeres; much more than you or I could ever handle. A continous parade of all you could ever want or dream of. And oh, did I mention the open Bar?

The 200 peso is just for 1 drink for the feature dancer at Madahos in order to have the opportunity to discuss the possibility of a personal encounter. It was 100p in Sept when I was here and the experieince was will worth it. Her (not there anymore) 1 on 1 price for two hrs was 250 and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

I have to admit gents, I took an afternoon off after my first 48 hrs, but that night 3 was a gem and on Day 4 I was back in stride.

I'm not as young as I use to be,

MM

Exon123
11-21-03, 18:13
Exon Reporting In : --- Ive made an interesting observation --- Jayee walking in Buenos Aires is truly and art form in which each day You risk Your life to continue the Quest For Pussy --- OK --- After hearing form Mickey Mouse I find out that Carolina is not the almost innocient virgin she made herself up to be --- Seems Mickey Mouse´s squeeze from Catto´s says she worked there with her for a year --- But thats OK for I was longing for Roberta and as Ive posted --- Roberta is simply the best screw Ive ever had --- More To Cum Latter --- Exon

0919
11-21-03, 18:14
thanks for your reply Elvis

Marcos
11-21-03, 21:16
Charly,

Mayri should be able to get you a passage BsAs-Rio-S.Paulo-Rio for usd 400. BTW I'll be there mid-december.

Not much else report. AMA meeting went smooth. No major oddballs this time and interesting conversation. Kudos to Andres for his command of Italian on top of the other stuff he knows, that must be a lot.

I lost sight of everyone in Madaho after the bouncer fractured my hand in a friendly shake. With some people you really don't want to part on bad terms.

I took out Celeste that is a beauty but can be a little bit a clockwatcher, had to remind her the exact terms of our deal. She responded that a short time well spent is better than staying up long time but not enjoying. On that I had to agree!

Over and out.

Dancesw/Chicas
11-21-03, 22:19
Andres,
Thanks for responding, I was thinking something in the same
line of more interaction between generations in Argentina.
For the rest of the people who think I was bragging, I am
was just looking for opinions (I still like to hear more ) about
how much of a change in attitude between portenas and
US girls. I mean here, If you are lucky and find a girl who's not
talking on the phone, a big chance is that she ignore you (me)
Regarding a picture of her... She is not famous, but I am
afraid that some local reader recognize her and screw it
for me by mentioning this board. To give you a GOOD idea she
is one of the modelos/promotoras that you can see in places
like Asia de Cuba, Divino BA, Pacha among other.
A lot of this girls are normal UBA students and they can be
approach casually, in fact most of them will be insulted if
try to buy them. On other hand I am sure that some of them
will end becoming pro with the years. Just because of the
nightlife and modeling lifestyle.

Dashing Don
11-21-03, 22:22
So, its Friday afternoon in New York, and I'm thinking. Thinking about an email that I received a few days ago from b69, regarding whether I would be in BA next week. I met b69, Jackson, Judd, Slick1, Capt Dave, Tman777 and a few others, in Buenos Aires in April and had a great time. But I had replied to b69 that I was a father and that Thanksgiving was a family holiday in the US and that I couldn't go--commitments etc etc. But then I started to compare the two probable scenarios.

The first scenario involves massive food fights with the kids and the attendant screaming, yelling, and general mayhem. My dear south american wife knows nothing about Thanksgiving other than that it might interrupt her spanish soap operas.

The second scenario involves massive amounts of sex with new lady friends and attendant screaming, yelling, and general mayhem. What to do? Two hours later, American Airlines kindly offered to get me to BA on Wednesday and out on Sunday, for the small sum of $1432. I accepted!

Although I never admit anything, my wife knows the score. Being a good latina, she will try to fuck me as many times between now and Tuesday night as possible, so that I have less leche for the BA chicas. This is latina logic and I love it.

So I am looking forward to meeting Jackson and b69 and Slick1 and whoever else is in town for a rocking good time, including, but not limited to: bar hopping; eating great steaks; banging tons of chicas; consuming large quantities of vino tinto; and enjoying a very gracious city.

Don

ChicagoBoy23
11-21-03, 22:36
Exon - you've been played. However if you had a great time and it sounded like you did then whats the difference whether she lied to you. Its not like we really fall in love with chica's - but its fun to pretend for a couple days.

Dickhead
11-22-03, 01:30
Mickey Mouse, the bar with the blonde dancer is Kurvos. I am in Mexico right now.

Jaimito Cartero
11-22-03, 02:52
Exon- Girls will be girls sometimes. I've had some make up stories about other girls just to get you to stop seeing them. Remember if a story sounds too good, it probably is. At least you had fun.

EZE_Amante
11-22-03, 10:47
Exon123,

I sent you a pm, give me a call if you are in town and want to get together.

EZE

Exon123
11-22-03, 15:25
Exon Reporting : Mickey Mouse, Friend & I went out to see the show in Palarmo --- Good show envolving a string of pearls and a pussy --- Turned out I was sitting with the star of the show and didn´t even know it --- OK --- I weakend at met Carolina about two AM for my own show --- Guess Im still pretty high on her --- Love is a many splendered thing --- More to Cum latter Exon is Tired --- Exon --- EZE_Amante --- I can´t fucking figure out how to read the PM´s --- Call me 4807-6890 --- sorry Jackson

Slick1
11-22-03, 18:43
Just made it in to town and since I don´t know who else is in Iwill probably just stop by the Etoille around 9. At least that is what I remember the meeting time to be, I could be wrong. B69will arrive around midnight so I will interrupt the club scene for a bit to let him in. Dashing Don , glad to read you will also be back. Starting to feel like a reunion. Looking forward to meeting the other board members. If something else is already in the works leave a post otherwise Ill just fly solo if no one shows. Later.

Mickey Mouse
11-22-03, 18:48
Nuevo Estilo Update:

Exon, Stormy and myself hurried through a great dinner so we could get a good table for this night's show and guess what, there have been some changes since my first visit with DH.

The place has been rehabbed for a cleaner and more contemporary feeling. New 30' bar on left wall and stage centered on right when entering. The problem: The show doesn't start till 1:30 am (sorry Exon) now, but the beers are still 5p. DH's favorite is still there and did her 2 girl at 1:30 sharp, but I had to bribe Claudia for her to perform the "strand of pearl show" before the 2-girl so we didn't have to wait till 3am to see it. Exon even got into the act. You're welcome buddy.

The rooms are not available anymore so you have to use the hotel (30 for 1/2, 40/ 1hr) down the street. Chica prices are 120 for 1/2 and 200p for the hr and are much better looking than I remember (about 25). Now on to Black.

Black:

As some of you know, I like to get to know at least 1 girl out of each club while visiting and Black's is no exception. Well, I must say that Blacks was a disappointment on this night. My opinion only, but I felt Nuevo Estilo had better looking ladies on this particular night and the Blacks girls were definitely no competition for Madahos. After having a couple beers and scanning the place, it was time to leave without even buying 1 lady a drink and trying to negotiate for an afternoon rendezvous.

Another lesson learned: It's 3 am and I still haven't decided on tonight's action. Stormy suggests Hook and Catto, so I say OK. the lesson , when the first time is Great, the second time can be even Greater, but watch out for the third time! I knew there was something wrong when she started playing head games and acting more like a girlfriend when we got home. She's gone!

Stay tuned,

MM

Exon123
11-22-03, 21:26
Exon Reporting --- Well I did it again, yea, Carolina this afternoon --- Im ashamed of myself, doing the same Chica over and over again --- OK --- Thats it, Enough, Im going to Stop --- Period --- Shes a really nice girl, but I can tell shes just using me for Sex, He,He,He Mickey Mouse is right --- No --- It was DickHead that said Nuevo Estilo Rocks --- At 5p a beer how can you go wrong --- And the entertainment is truly outstanding --- As good as anything in T.J. and at a fraction of the price --- I did the old dollar bill trick but with two peso notes and the Argentines and Chica´s loved it --- Whats really good about this place is its not a Turista Trap full of travelers such as the Recoletta Clubs --- And again thats why I like down town and the Cafes --- And those Ugly Old Women of say 26 or 27 --- Mickey Mouse, Stormy & I are headed to Porta Madera in about 30 minutes for dinner --- Afterward Im going to try taking them to an Apartmento --- Just for a look --- I also love the apartments --- Example --- The other day, rather than go down to Cafe Orlean for service, which is going to run you $150 min --- I stopped by 1707 Santa Fe and bought the 30 minute special for 60p, which includes bbbj and covered orgasmo --- Thats about $20 bucks where I come from, but its not for sale at that price --- OK --- Now guess what I did with the extra 90 pecos I saved --- Yea Mongers, I bought a pair Deck Shoes that would have cost me well over a hundred USD back home --- And some how I think the Deck Shoes will last longer than the memmory of the quickie --- So a Tip from Exon --- It doesn´t take any brains to spend Money --- Exon

Sky Ryder
11-23-03, 13:19
Hello,

This post might be better suited for another section, but I wasn't sure so here goes. Recently I went to a Tango show with my novia that was suggested by Roxana. The name of the place is ESQUINA CARLOS GARDEL. The building is very nice inside and is kind of an upscale theater. The food is fine and there is a good selection of items. The wine is included and our glasses were never empty.
The show itself is extraordinary, there were about six or seven couples dancing in a group and also different songs as a solo couple. The had both a male and female solo vocalists, both of which sang some wonderfully romantic songs with gusto. The music is provided by a live orchestra.
I had a great time at this place and while I have seen one or two other Tango shows this is the only one that I would go to see again anytime. If you spend anytime in B.A. you really owe it to yourself to see this show, to get a real flavor of the local culture.
The charge is AR $150 for cash and AR $165 for credit, but includes all the above.

Thanks again Roxana for the recommendation, a perfect choice as usual!!

Exon123
11-23-03, 15:46
Exon Reporting : Great Dinner with Roxana, Micky Mouse & Stormy last night in Porta Madera --- Well I think Ive done it --- Yes broken this Carolina thing Ive been involved in --- Im not sure yet, but after dinner Roxana went home --- And of course the Mongers went out cruiseing at Hook & Catto´s --- I didn´t see a thing appealing, said good night and walked out the door --- Rather than just get in a cab, I some how ended up at the Cafe Exceda --- With absolutely no intentions of messing around as Carolina had drained me earlier --- WRONG --- Met this woman while sitting on the Bar stool --- She came over sit down and we started --- She was really nothing special, but after a time I leaned over and said I´d like to ¨Fuck You Sitting On Thease Stools¨while spreding her legs --- Well of course one thing lead to another and we ended back at My apartmento sitting in two straight back chairs Fucking one another --- Its a fun possition --- The Chica loved it and is coming back at five for seconds --- He;he;he ---- Exon

Jimbehr2000
11-23-03, 18:40
Mickey Mouse: Guess I'll have to go see Neuvo Estilo on my next BA trip since you like it so much. It appears you and I have very similar taste (pardon the expression) in women. I had a terrific time with Jessica and Celeste as well. I posted their pics in the gallery here on 10/17 and 11/2. I assume they are the same Celeste and Jessica you liked.

JustGotBack
11-23-03, 23:56
Mickey, read you post about Nuevo Estilo. It was one of my favorite places but your post is bad news for me. I was last there about 6 months ago. It used to be 80p for 30 minutes and that included the room. If it's 120 now and 30 for the room, that's not so good anymore. Might as well go to a club.

One Tree Hill
11-24-03, 00:25
Greetings from boring N America,

Well guys (and gals) I have been back in N America for over one week now and can’t get BA out of my head. I had a great time despite arriving a day late, getting soaked in the rain and somehow loosing my ATM card prior to my arrival in BA.

My regrets to Otto, Jackson and the rest who dined at 1880 on 11/7. My friend Derek made it there and had a great time. I was stuck in Miami. Thanks to the board members who showed him a good time and gave him some pointers (Chris took him to Black). I arrived on 11/8 and met Derek at the hotel and he was all smiles after a TLN with a sweet Argentine chica! He indeed had the time of his life in BA.

I also regret that Roxanna was laid up with the flu and I with a cold, thus canceling our meeting and city tour. Perhaps next time. Other regrets are that my trip to Colonia and perhaps Montevideo was cancelled due to heavy rains. With all these problems and issues one thing went great….. the ladies! Here is my review.

Having been on one previous trip to BA, I wanted to focus on an area that had not been explored, namely an apartment or two and the internet. It turns out that these two venues were somewhat combined.

Guemes 1221 2 flr A -Based on a previous mongers experience and having seen her on the net I called for Ale the Turkish girl (4826-9530). Turns out she was on vacation and a chica named Angeles answered. Her voice was very sweet and Lolita like. Though her english wasn't too good and my espanol is horrible, I managed to make out that she was also on Platynum.com.ar After some investigation and a trip to the local Locatorio I was in love. Angeles is indeed a hot, thin and blond chica who is petit everywhere except the colita! Rather than go to the apartment I choose to her come to my apartment. The price: 100 AR for an hour for servio completo! Plus 20 AR for taxi. She was not a total GFE, but her body was awesome! I enjoyed every minute which included CBJ, anal, multiple positions and DATY. I truly felt like a thief for getting my hands on such an awesome looking chica for only 35USD. Her ass was tanned and PERFECT. I had to even do a bit of rimming (rarely done). It was the best ass I ever had! Her pics are NOT doctored on Platynum. For 100AR I recommend it highly.

Corrientes 1965 P13 B - called 4952-8234 and asked for Lorena. With the rain and everything I was not interested in going to the apartment, so Lorena agreed to come to me. Lorena was as described on the board. Very energetic and game for anything. Her body is nice and thin, face is adequate, though very Paraguayan. She is no longer blond, but natural dark (black). The rate was 100 AR per hour plus taxi tip of 10 AR. She provided a very spirited GFE, CBJ (did not ask for uncovered) and multiple positions. She also allowed some photos and video.

Sante Fe 1707 3rd Floor - Went here one afternoon around 6P with no reservation. No problems, just had them buzz me up and met me at the elevator on 3rd floor.. Prices quoted were 60AR half hour/80 45 mins/100 per hour. I was in no mood to hurry and choose the full hour and paid upfront to the madam. The girl I choose was Jennifer a tall leggy brunette with cute face and nice body. I though it was going to be very good. It wasn’t. As soon as we entered the room she began with what can only be
described as a rehearsed procedure. She was overly loud and seemingly going through the motions – and no attempt of massage. Everything was covered and she was so fast and frantic I though she might actually take some skin off. I tried to slow the pace by doing a little directing and letting her lie back while I performed some DATY. This worked for a while. She then attempted to fast track the session and I began to loose interest and erection. Sadly the only way to finish was to have her play with herself while I performed a hand job on myself!! Pretty sad, but the only way I could see a happy ending. Well after I finished she hurried me off to the shower and at this point I realized that only 30 minutes had passed. I spoke with the madam about a partial refund and told her the service was sub-par. She agreed to only charge the 45 min rate and gave me 20 AR back.

My friend choose a short haired brunette whose name I cant quite remember exactly, possibly Celeste. According to my buddy she was pretty good and provided BBBJ and multiple positions. Was very spirited and overall was satisfying. However not too much GFE in the way of carinos or DFK.

In summation: I don’t like the apartments in general. Too sterile for me. I prefer the hunt aspect of Orleans, Excedra or any of the clubs. I guess I just need a build up and a little chemistry. No factory sex for me.

CAFÉ ORLEANS

Went only once and scored. The big surprise is that I had to pay a bar fine to take a girl out of the place. This was unknown to me and I was very wary. However the girl and waiter insisted this was the policy. They said that unlike Excedra, they provide some security for the girls. Some one here may wish to clarify.

I hooked up with a very spirited with long curly blond hair. She along with another chica (forgot name and Paraguyan) for my buddy, went back to our apartment for the evening. My girl turned into a TLN for the price of 2 hours. BBBJ, GFE, DFK, DATY and anal were all on the menu. Price was 200 AR. In fact I saw here several times before I left, twice in her apartment. It turned into a BF/GF experience of sorts. Her name was Maria.

There was another chica there that had a very aggressive but sweet personality. Perhaps some monger knows her. Long black hair, late twenties by the name of Paula. She did seem a bit clingy though.

I Will go back to Orleans in the future. The pickings there seemed better than Excedra. Although, I only went to Excedra twice in off peak times.

Will post more in another post. Had a great time. Did a Tango show and had some great food. Highly recommend the buffet at La Bisteak in Pte Madero. Buffet, beer, wine, dessert and tip = 150 AR – and that’s for 4! All in all it was a great trip and I can’t wait to return. Hopefully with better weather. And hopefully I can meet the crew next time.

Ciao,

One Tree Hill

Tom Schilders
11-24-03, 17:59
Hi Guys,

I have noticed that the ladies over their 30's tend to provide a lot better service with passion. On www.gemidos.com.ar there is a special section for let's say the ladies in their dirty thirty's. If you go to the site, the section is called Maduras. Click on it and you'll find the listing. I called with Ma. Cristina, who is on the bottom of the section. I went to her apartment. The good thing is she speaks English. When I entered her apartment she asked me what I wanted her to wear. I choose stockings. She also put on her Strap on dick. This shocked me a bit, especialy as she insisted that I should give her a blow job on the strap on dick. Being horny, I did, but I stopped after a few seconds as it didn't really excite me. She than put me standing up against the bed, and started licking my asshole. She also took my balls and cock in her mouth, all without a condom. After that she put me on my back on the bed, and again BJ without. Also quite a lot of French Kissing. Although I never lick the box, I did get talked into licking hers, and hey, it was not so bad after all! After all this some good fucking and after about 1,5 hour I walked out and took a taxi back to my hotel. All in total was 150 Arg. Pesos + about 20 pesos for the taxi ride. Recommended, I'll go again!!!

Mad Max
11-24-03, 21:10
Does anyone know Katalina from Cattos?

Dancesw/Chicas
11-25-03, 05:08
One Tree Hill,
Great report!!
This is the first time I know of a extremely bad
experience at 1707. Do you think perhaps you went on
looks only? Not that there's a lot of time to meet there....
The other girl you mentioned is Celeste, indeed I know
from experience that she does deliver very well.
The girl Angeles from Guemes, is that the one currently
on platynum(with a tatoo)??? She is fine!!
Last question Tree hill: How hot is it there nowdays?
DWC

Exon123
11-25-03, 15:47
Exon Reporting: Mad Max --- If Katalina is a tall blond with tatto's, the answer is yes --- Good experience -- Was in there about two weeks ago with Mickey Mouse and took her home for $150 --- She gos right by the book, but once the neogociations were over her preformance was excelent --- On another subject -- I wanted find DickHeads Maria --- So last night abount 9:30 I went looking for her at Florida & Paragury with no luck --- Next best thing was cafe Orleans, a short distance away --- Rosealee was there and Ive always wanted to do her --- So I sit down for a cup of coffee and had a nice chatt and theres where I made my mistake --- Now I know by information and belief that Rosealee has always wanted to do me also --- But the problem was I was hungery so rather than cut the deal to include taking her with me I cut a deal to return after dinner for $150 --- Dumb Shit Me --- OK --- Theres a great restruant called FILO's not far Cafe Orleans --- Maybe to blocks --- And heres where I fucked up --- Walking down the street I spot this Street Walker, Im slumimg remember looking for Maria, we get to talking and next thing I know Im inviting her to dinner --- We go in sit down order wine and pasta, total $59 pesco's, Yak a while, and next thing I know Im inviting her back to my apartmento for a $100 2 hour especiallo --- Cheep Fuck that I am --- Leaving Rosealee back at Orleans --- I'll never forgive myself for that --- Anyway we get to the apartmento, and of course she wants her money first, I say No, but put the money on the dresser --- It was awfull --- Were not half way threw the blow job part and I throw in the towel --- What, Don't You Want To Fuck Me she says --- No fucking way you can even make me hard I say --- Bottom line to the story --- I throw her out and go to sleep wishing I'd had the self control to stick to my plan with Rosealee --- Moral to the story --- Don't ever pass up a class act like Rosealee for a Street Walker to save a $50 ---- Exon

Jaimito Cartero
11-25-03, 16:30
Exon - Well, hopefully you'll get another "whack" at Rosalee. If you really think you'll like 'em, invite them out to dinner. I found that this softens them up a bit. Heck, I'm sure all the girls just want you, Exon. ;)

lotsafun
11-25-03, 16:49
RE: Skyryder's report on ESQUINOR CARLOS GARDEL

I've also been there and throughly enjoyed the evening, although back last November is was less expensive by two or forty Pesos.
Recently I went to a Tango show with my novia that was suggested by Roxana. The name of the place is ESQUINA CARLOS GARDEL. The building is very nice inside and is kind of an upscale theater.

Highly recommended
LAGNAF

lotsafun
11-25-03, 16:54
Show us your t*ts!

I checked out the playtnum site today (www.platynum.com.ar)
and noticed there are a lot of new ladies there. However, I noticed one "disturbing" trend. Many of the new ladies are fully clothed, and not topless or down to their bikini bottoms.

What's this world coming to? ;-)

LAGNAF

MoonDog
11-25-03, 17:18
Actually, to see them fully clothed is good as well, as it shows you what they willl ook like when you take them out to dinner. :)

Moondog

OttoGraham
11-25-03, 19:50
Moon, I look a hell of a lot better in clothes than out of them. Will you take me to dinner?

-Uncle Otto

MeGustaBoliches
11-25-03, 21:40
Otto & dog....lol! Dog, beware of taking uncle to dinner ....he appears to be something of a epicurian, given his restaurant posts....He could be an expensive lay...

One Tree Hill
11-26-03, 02:10
DWC,

Yes Angeles is from Platynum. HOT BODY!

As for 1707 Sante Fe, you are right the other girl was CELESTE.

According to my buddy she was pretty good.

I guess I picked the wrong horse, but at least the madam was gracious and gave me a partial refund. I mean I am an easy going guy and generally easy to please, but Jennifer was just plain bad.

As for the weather, of course I am in the US now so I cant say.

One Tree Hill
11-26-03, 02:16
CAFE ORLEANS:

In my post below I mention that they charged a bar fine to leave with a girl. Can anyone expound on that? Is it a relatively new policy, it caught me off guard.

Also does anyone here have any info on a blond with long curly hair there named Merri and a dark haired girl named Paula. They both work Orleans.

Thanks!

MoonDog
11-26-03, 05:26
Otto,

As long as you keep your clothes on, I will be happy to take you to dinner. :)

MeGusta,

Not to worry as it will be dinner only. :)

Moondog

MoonDog
11-26-03, 12:58
One Tree Hill said:


CAFE ORLEANS:

In my post below I mention that they charged a bar fine to leave with a girl. Can anyone expound on that? Is it a relatively new policy, it caught me off guard.

That policy seems to come and go over the years. Sometimes the cafe charges the girls a fee to be there and work, and the girls will ask if you can pay that sometimes. Other times, it has not been mentioned. I just pay it, and forget about it.

Moondog

Stormy
11-26-03, 18:34
Report on Santa Fe 1701 in October and November.

This report is based on perhaps ten visits to Santa Fe 1701 on two trips. The visits ranged from very, very good to excellent.

I saw Pamela, Jessica, Magaly, Marianna, and Sol. They ranged from cute to very pretty and had beautiful figures. The place is run by Sylvia and is organized around the idea that one customer never sees another one and the place is small, with only a few rooms, so on entering and leaving there is much maneuvering about on busy days.

It works like this. You press the buzzer for the third floor and then say something and they will buzz the door. There is a creaky old elevator to the third floor where there is another buzzer. Then you will hear much slamming of doors as the girls move about. Sylvia will greet you and take you into a parlor room and the girls will come in individually and give you a peck on the cheek and tell their names. They are wearing little outfits and heels.

After the introductions Sylvia will come back and ask who you want to see and show you to a bedroom.

The girl will come to the room and ask how much time you want to spend. It is 60 pesos for a half hour, 80 for forty-five minutes and 100 for the hour. BBBJ is available for 30 pesos more and a few of the girls offer anal and that is 100 more. So your total costs can range from 60 (see EXON's posts) to 200. You must pay up front. Posts in other sources have indicated BBBJTC, but no one in my experience here would deal with that.

The rooms are not fancy at all and the showers are awkward and the towels are like wash cloths. There are some very creaky looking air conditioners and fans and one of girls told me that the summers can get pretty sweaty with a lot of action. At the hour level or even less they are willing to do multiple efforts (shots on goal for our Canadian readers).

Why do I go there so much? Because I have trouble staying awake long enough to be functional when the clubs are hopping and my Spanish is not very good, though I have tagged along on some memorable expeditions with Mickey Mouse, Exon, and Jackson and others on some memorable expeditions. I also have used Roxane's help with some of the internet girls and that went very well.

I would recomment 1707 highly and was sorry to hear of a poor experience there. Please note that my experience was totally during the day and not at all at night.

Lots of Luck

Stormy

Dancesw/Chicas
11-26-03, 19:20
I know a girl who went to Exedra from Orleans because
she was charge 30 pesos at Orleans. I never knew about
until I asked her about hernew strategic relocation...
I think they will dare to pass that fee to you only if
you look like a clueless americano. A local monger will
just laugh in their faces.

One Tree Hill
11-26-03, 19:46
DWC,

I questioned the fee twice. And did not feel like making it an issue.

I wouldn't actually call myself a clueless Americano, LOL, but I did get 4 TLN's for the price of one out of it, plus an offer to stay with my Chica at her place when I return, so I feel I got a pretty good ROI.

Moondog: Thanks for your reply. Yep rather than making an issue I just paid it and went on my way. By the way you and I met last April in Excedra. You probably dont rememeber me - stout, light brown hair, youthfull looking 40. You actually recommended a girl that I took out. Dont remember her name, cute, thin dark haired girl. Very petite. I was there with another Gringo who was very blond with mustache.

Jaimito Cartero
11-26-03, 22:24
I don't think I would pay a fee at Orleans. Seems a bit dumb, since it's not a casa of any sort. Don't they make the girls buy drinks or food to stay there?

Exon123
11-27-03, 13:24
Exon Reporting: Again I want to second Stormy´s opion on Santa Fe 1707 --- As this Mongering at 3 & 4 in the morning just doesn´t get it for me --- High quality, competitive price & good service --- OK --- Now as I last reported I left Rosealee hanging for the WS I latter told to Vamanose --- Yesterday while shopping on Florida street, (no one ever reports on this, but theres some great bargains there) I dropped into Cafe Orleans for lunch --- And of course there was Rosealee sitting their waiting for business --- She was pissed,she had waited an hour for me while I was wasteing my time with the SW --- I really owed her one, so sitting down for lunch we shook hands on a $150 ar deal which included no time limit, but get this, Two Orgasmos --- Hows that for negociating --- But as I wrote before Rosealee has really wanted to do me for quite sometime so I might have had a competitive adavntage --- Bottom line is we had a deal --- And I ordered lunch --- The special Orlean sanwhich --- Which I also highly recomend, $10 ar --- Im just about finnished with lunch and guess what ? --- In walks ROBERTA --- Now Roberta is simply the best fuck in the world and worth flying the 7,000 miles down her just to do her all by herself then leaving --- OK --- Anyway I had a deal which I could not renig on so I informed Roberta that Rosealee & I had a deal --- Being the true professional that Roberta is she completely understood and we promised each other in front of Rosealee to get together the next day --- Well Rosealee gave an excellant proformance --- But she is no Roberta so I had to tell her she was my second favorite girl in Orleans --- Which she completely understood but made me promise to keep in touch by e-mail after I returned home --- As she commented on my bedroon skills , but I think she says that to all the guys ---- Exon

Bunda Blast
11-27-03, 20:21
Hi, I am a first timer in BA arriving in 2 days. Are there any mongers that would in interested in some company to do some mongering? Let me know how I can contact you guys.

Hi Bunda Blast,

You can contact these guys by sending them a Private Message.

Thanks,

Jackson

Member #1314
11-28-03, 21:58
Good Sunday at Madahos.

Madahos had a reduced level of clientele last Sunday night. But the number of girls didn't seem proportionately reduced. Met a Peruvian girl named Karina. After 20 minutes of small talk she wanted to go over to the table and sit. I thought, here comes the hard sell on the drinks. (35 pesos a pop). As it turned out, she gave me varied carihnos, DFK, hand hard pressed in the crotch, and no real hard sell. But I bought her one anyway.

Anyone know if it is required to buy one before takeout?? We left and I was treated to BBBJ, multiple positions, DFK, the works back at the hotel. She only wanted 150 pesos, but I did have to negotiate for 2.5 hours instead of her requested one hour. Maybe it was the day of the week (Sunday) that made it such a bargain.

Anyway, anyone have other experiences with this chica? She has light blue eyes, pouty lips, 3 tatoos, blond hair, average body--and Peruvian! Such a plus!! Very easy to talk to.

Hi,

Yes, a slow Sunday can be a motivating factor for a chica.

Madahos does not employ the "Drink Police" like Black, and thus you are not required to buy any girl a drink just to talk to her. You do have to buy one drink for every hour you expect to take her out of the club, to a maximum of three drinks. After 3:30 am, which is so close to closing time, you are only expected to buy just the one drink.

By a number of measures, it seems that you encountered a first class chica. First, she didn't hit you up for a drink at the beginning of the conversation, as opposed to the hard-core putas who will generally start arm-twisting you within the first few sentances. Second, she didn't try to order one of the special "Madahos" drinks for 50 pesos under the assumption that you wouldn't know that there was an option. Third, she apparently passed the all important "affection test" while you were sitting at one of the tables. Fourth, back at your hotel room she apparently didn't watch the clock or try to dictate new rules.

The only think that bothers me is that she stayed with you for 2.5+ hours, but you didn't say what time you left the club. If it was before 3:30 am, and you only bought one drink, then they will make her pay out of her own pocket for the additional drinks for the extra time she was gone when she returns to work the next day. Something to think about considering the apparent excellent service.

Like I've said to guys a hundred times to guys trying to decide what chica to take: The chica's attitude is 90% of the score.

Great job!

Jackson

James D 2004
11-29-03, 17:27
Any suggestions for now (Sat 4:30 pm), tonight and tomorrow? PM me if you want. I´ll be staying in this internet no cafe for a while recuperating. What you heard about Abril (area vip) is true, charging higher price. Even truer is that the Abril that comes isn´t the girl in the picture. Could be but you have to scale her down to be skinny. Julia is but the picture I carried with me didn´t look like her. I showed to her and laughed, she immediately reduce the price from 150. Even though they say they speak English, you may be talking to their secretary. All are fantastic from butt down. Julia is as slim in the picture that I preferred. However, please no more chica who had kids. Take off the bra and air brush at the tommy and you will know. Really not bad compared to the fake pictures in USA escort mall though. Julia is very good and she wanted to stay on. But even though she tried to type with both hands on my Franklinds, we don´t get very far. Perhaps if she spray on something, I´ll be more happy to take her out. She took away my cheat sheet with her picture and details on, along with several other girls, even though I protested. Later she looked very dispointed when she saw that I had several more sheets.

Now I´ve got one more problem. I went to a haircut place as recommended by an WSG member in OC. The info is off the mark so I went to another scary one nearby. Now I looked 15 and Julia checked my ID, and I know why all the schoolgirls looked back at me. Everyone gave me their particular phone number, so I think the published numbers are agency of some sort?

Man
11-29-03, 22:58
Are the price slisted at: http://www.escorts-argentina.com/
in US dollars, or AR?

Are the phots real?

Hi Man,

With all due respect, this question has been asked and answered in this section at least 10 times in the past year.

Please do a search of the forum and read the previous answers.

Thanks,

Jackson

Marcos
11-30-03, 16:23
Hey all,
Fast-forward a couple of weeks since my last post and here I'm, now a resident of BsAs with all the pro and cons of the situation. It is actually more a matter of taking a different perspective to the whole scene, as you not only get to 'know the ropes', but become less interested in die-hard exploring, and more and more in other things that can enhance your quality of life, like choosing a good gym and so on. While on the matter, I still find hard to believe that a montly fee here is ONE TENTH of what I pay in Europe and gives me more or less the same services. To be fair, in the US, a good club was slight cheaper, but offered a LOT more.
Anway, here's my two bits of information for today. Martha at Affaire Puerreydon is a good screw, young sweet and pretty Paraguayan brunette. You'll recognize her as I think she has the best body shape in the local bunch, that BTW I think is of a decent level. Take her upstairs or to your home for a test drive, then get the number and repeat as necessary.
Also good grades for Lucilla, the spirited Dominican petite at Hooks (or Lucilla is the name of the one at Madaho's? These two are a little bit like each other), but please be firm on the price, remember $100 is the deal for Hooks and Catto's.
The latter had little talent as of yesterday, with only two semi-slender brunettes that I would have done. My 'mistake' was to go for change in hairstyle, and took out Florencia, a fake blonde with OK legs. She didn't sent very good waves, like asking about my significant other instead of the customary leaning on me and fondling my privates in the taxi. Things peaked down when she asked to be paid in advance, of course I refused and was not even willing to discute. She decided to leave, to which I didn't had any exception to make, but she must have been changing her mind as she began riding up and down in the elevator. Had to give her $2.50 for the taxi and escort her down, but at the end I was happy going to sleep alone. In fact, I did go to Cattos just to get a stripper's number, to order one a special welcome to an arriving friend. What about an elegant hostess waving a sign with your name at the airport, escorting you at the apartment and give a private show just to get you aquaintened with the local scene?
That's pretty much all, about what I _really_ like, I'll be happy if the Brazilian that those of you at the Thanksgiving party have seen in my company can repeat the stellar performance of Thursday, that would be worth a report of his own. Just to give you an idea, she told me she's still in pain after two days, but what do you expect after extensive use of just a wool blanket to facilitate creativity on a roof-top terrazza.

Marcos
11-30-03, 16:47
Tall'n'thing, I'm happy to see you're posting about the real thing and seems to be able to get over the initial overplanning and mindtrips that resulted in bad posting on WSG. That time would have been better spent in a spanish course at the local community school. I do know that the anticipation about something is often a factor for emotional behavoir but part of the experience neverthess. Play cool with the others mongers and your karma will grow.
And, yes agencies, middle-women and commisions are the norm for sex business in BsAs. On the other hand, many girls, expecially from the clubs, routinely gives their numbers but then become somewhat difficult to get ahold of, or agree to a place and time to meet. After all, it is extra income for them but also extra effort on top of the long hours they work in the clubs or apartaments, so don't alway assume they're willing to sacrifice personal time to money.
To look young isn't necessarely a bad thing, as you can freely chase around in the free market, and go to clubs like Mint in Punta Carrasco, so enjoy.

James D 2004
11-30-03, 18:35
If I can get by with Spanish, I don´t need to plan at all. Spanish speaking people always forget this. I don´t like learning a new language at my age and probably there´s no real justification. Even if I want to come back, I may not have the chance now and then. As the planning goes, I pick to fly via Miama on Thanks Giving day. So that I´m in the right time zone and have 15 min to make a very long distance call. The airport is pretty quiet with very few announcements. If you go next to the TV on a waiting room, it sounds as if you are at home, understand? Perfect.

This is not a report, but a perspective by a non Spanish speaking tourist. Well after two disappointments I just as well try anything recommended or not. Not really big disappointments but BA has a big reputation to live up with, right DH?

Everybody was away, out or busy Sat evening. Called some internet girls but whatever they say about their language ability, the ones who answers the phone speak no English. A girl's boyfriend or something say that she is not available, but her friend is. She came over and I have to turn her away for the 1st time. I gave her 30 peso for taxi and she is happy. I have 50 in my other pocket just in case.

I got a coupon for Black´s from the airport. Since I practically can parachute into them I went there. I have to pay for the cover of 25 anyway. I think it´s a ripoff coupon. Sat night 11:30. That wouldn´t be a good time for me but what do I have other things to do? There are a huge number of chicas, must be more than 50 and I´m not surprised if there are more than that. There are quite some guys as well. Plus some 10 to 20 guys marched in who must be living across or members of AMA who want to teach the management. There are so many girls lining up all the way to the door I just sat outside at the bar.

Again a little disappointed. Majority wear long pants. Both internet girls that I saw had great legs. Very few bare their tommy. A lot looks fairly average. I saw this only one girl that meet the few requirements. Long blonde girl that looks quite young, wearing a tiny shirt that only covers her tits. Mini skirt. Nice slim legs, and slim everything else. Small supported breast but I don´t think she had kids. She´s prettry too, cheer leader type, but without character on her face. The only bad thing is that she has a little American flag on her chest, on her shirt. I don´t think she'll be cheap and doubt about her attitudes. I smiled at her several times and she smiled back. But she didn´t come over. All the girls didn´t hussle for drinks nor approach me at all. Some wanted to make eye contact, but I just look away. Soon she was taken but I didn´t see her leave. I saw something like that, probably brunette, but she was leaving. Next best is a girl with short black hair in pants, but showed a lot of tommy. However she looked a bit Goth.

Then my seat next to me was empty. Two girls come over without looking at me. Then one girl massage the girl´s shoulder right next to me. She was Emily and she was practically face to face with me with an orgasmic expression in her face. She was a sterotype young Brazilian. But if I was looking for that I would have stopped at St Paulo. But then she looked real pretty in a special way. Very rounded facial feature, so sweet that seemed to be ozing with honey. Back length straight black hair. She was in pants and showed only a tiny bit of tommy. But that´s irrelevant as she is rounded all over, and her butt stands out horizontally. I guessed I had to try something different so I smiled at her. The other girl also laughted because the massage worked. Still she didn´t ask for anything. As we don´t understand each other, I have to offer her a drink to continue in a more comfortable corner. I think she asked me what sort of drink. We gave up as I don´t understand a word. When her drink comes she let me zipped it first. It costed me 60 peso! I don´t remember I read somewhere it´s that steep?

When I put my hand at her back, I know I´m right. It´s prime beef. She has a totally young body. Again she didn´t ask me for anything. I had to ask her to go to my hotel. The price sound like must be a large sum of dollars so I asked for peso. Believe it or not she started at 500 peso! Looking back it could be for a long time but that´s very unlikely. I understand why some girls walk away at 100 dollar. The final price I got don´t even include anal. But she would kiss.

I didn´t know whether the AMA guys are not tipping the stripper well or my chicas drink is a money drink. When I looked up I saw the stripper dancing on my table. Looking up it was a very pretty sight. We kept on negiotiating. It´s about a song or more when Emily reminded me to tip her. When the bill came, I was a bit surprised so I ask for the receipt. I discovered that her drink was 60 peso, and they charge me 25 peso one more time. I didn´t bother to ask why but remember that the only reason I came is the free coupon.

I don´t even get BBBJ. But she is real sweet and she kisses. She has the sterotype body that is built for love. Whatever angle you hit on her you are well cousioned with prime tight hard beef. She has a quite tight pussy too, so I really think I am missing out on her ass. She has expensive taste. When I was in my shower she slipped down to have a glass of St. Felcian (or something like that) Carbenate. Every girls helped themselves, even the maid I think. It couldn´t have evaporated that much in half a day. Emily liked that but prefer another grape variety from the same winery.

Nothing to do Sun afternoon so I tried the apartments. Santa Fe 1707 must have bad karma or fungshi. If that´s the right address you will be very confused and not sure where is the entrance. There´s a cafe right across so there´s so much people watching the famous place. Pushed the button but too noisy by the road to know if there's anybody answering. So I followed a nut´s guide who hit on a lot of the areavip girls, a list of apartments and reported in a single message that I can print out. Larrea 1072 was gone, the button was removed. Don´t know where I got Esmeralda 943 C1 but that building was not labeled and C1 don´t exist. Went to 973 9e instead. It was a dump. I did get in but the girl won´t let me see the other girls, or that there´s no other. I didn´t know what I was thinking. The only thing going for her is that she is a tiny bit cute on her face. I paid 1 hr but I can only manage my half hour duty. Perhaps I can have a good rest on the rest of Sunday.

Bunda Blast
11-30-03, 19:20
Day 1

Slept all day, as I was exhausted from the plane. Proceeded to Santa Fe 1707. Took Paola for 30 mins for 60 AR. Great GFE, for 20 extra got BBBJ, and for another 50 had anal. Amazing experience, for the money you cant beat this anywhere in the world. She is a tight, young, brunnette, with great body and face. She was very enthusiastic. Ended the night with friends at a nightclub.

Knuckhead
11-30-03, 19:25
TallnHandsome:

I see that you are finally there! Thanks for reporting. So how much DID you give the Brasilera at Black after all??

OttoGraham
12-01-03, 12:44
Tall,

I think 1707 Santa Fe (3d floor) is closed on Sundays.

-Uncle Otto

James D 2004
12-01-03, 15:22
Emily costed me 300 big pesos. Not only that, she asked where my hotel is, if that´s not across the road, she might not have agreed. I thought at most they hit you with 100 US 300 peso at the beginning? Did anyone heard about 500? Or is it just me? I answered Emily that I´m californian but she asked "Father...Tokyo?" In between lingering goodbye kisses she didn´t forget to say that I´m crazy. That supposed to refer to my earlier attempt to take pictures of her in whatever way she wanted, but she refused. But I know she meant something else. Could it be that I only got through one out of the three condoms she put on the bedside table? I´ll still got the other two. Live is hard, have to hit the spa.

BTW, anybody knows how much the girl with the american flag on SAT cost you?

Knuckhead
12-01-03, 15:58
Santa Fe 1707 IS closed on Sundays (I confirmed this myself).

Andres
12-01-03, 17:04
TallnHandsome (and all in general):

During weekends, clubs have few girls and Internet girls become less available. Girls in Recoleta clubs can detect almost instantly if you are bored and need service, and they WILL take advantage of the situation.

In order to take advantage of the night, I suggest visiting Downtown clubs (Catto's and Hook) and the Flores neighborhood clubs. The latter can provide you a different experience: Clubs catering to locals that, despite not having the quality of Recoleta, can offer you some gems for very little.

There's no excuse to let get bored in BA. With little research in this thread, you can find out about several clubs beyond Recoleta and have a great night.

2 months ago, I brough 2 gentlemen to Envidia in Flores. These guys could have paid for a Black's girl every day and not leave Recoleta, but they joined me that Saturday and had a blast: 2 or 3 different girls in 90 minutes for ar$50 each. I agree that facilities are not upscale, but they suffice for the purpose (and you can take girls out, too, for a fee).

Hope this helps,

Andres

Dick for Brains
12-01-03, 19:58
Andres,

Could you please give directions to Envidia? It looks like the train out of Estacion Once has a stop at Flores. Is this the way to go? If so, how far is it from the train stationand in which direction?

Thanks,

DfB

MiddleAgeGuy
12-01-03, 20:59
Jackson,
On your excellent analysis of Madaho drinks/times, I can confirm exactly as you said, not that you particularly need any confirmation by others. I got this from a now ex-Madahoita.
It was interesting to watch their exchange of chits to the bartender prior to their leaving.
I got a bit of a different kind of story from Hooks a year or 2 ago that I would not fully trust to be accurate, but it was similar.
It is hard to believe there were that many people around at Thanksgiving. Would you consider that at almost any point in the year, there are that many wsg site visitors stomping around BA, or is Thanksgiving bigger.
MAG

Bunda Blast
12-01-03, 22:09
Went to Corrientes 1965, last night, no luck, no one answered the buzzer or the phone. Went to Madahos, but too much attitude for what seemed to be poor potential service quality. Although I was offered 150 for service, I got the feeling it would be very mechanical and turned her down. Ended up spending too much money on cover charges everywhere, I ended up in Hooks, Cattos, Ness, all had poor quality. Ended up accepting a blonde about a 3 or 4 quality for 100 pesos for complete service at my hotel. In hindsight, I probably should have gone for quality at Madahos, but I am the type of guy who likes GFE more than anything else and this girl had that at least.
Today, just walked around the city in Buenos Aires, exploring, resting for a big night I hope.

MoonDog
12-01-03, 23:59
One Tree Hill said,


Moondog: Thanks for your reply. Yep rather than making an issue I just paid it and went on my way. By the way you and I met last April in Excedra. You probably dont rememeber me - stout, light brown hair, youthfull looking 40. You actually recommended a girl that I took out. Dont remember her name, cute, thin dark haired girl. Very petite. I was there with another Gringo who was very blond with mustache.

Yes I do remember you, and Julia was her name. She is a very pretty girl, very affectionate,and should be treated witht the best of care. I beleve she stayed with you for a day or two. :)

As far as I know, she is still around. Glad you are having a good time.

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

Big Daddy Oh
12-02-03, 04:03
AVOID MADAHO!

In general, the place seemed like an American stripper bar with bathroom attendants, waiters in tuxedos, and employees with arrogant American attitudes. They seem to communicate that you should spend a lot of money and just be glad they let you in the door! If I want that attitude, I would not travel 7,000 miles to Argentina!

Here’s a review:

Physical Environment (Very Good):

Madaho is probably the best laid out club in town. Unlike Black and other clubs, it is fairly light, so you can see the girls. Also, it is set up with seats near the stage and standing room behind the seats. Again, this also beats Balck, which has seats along the wall with guys standing between you and the stage.

Girls (Average):

On the whole, the girls at Madaho were average. There were a few cuties there, as well as a few dogs. A few girls were clearly over age 35, perhaps even older than 40. We arrived around 2am on Friday night and saw the two or three hot girls leaving with some guys. Perhaps, we thought later, one needs the get there around 12:30 to get the best selection. After subsequent trip to clubs around town, we learned that these places all fill in between 12:30 and 2:00, and guys do not stay a long time drinking and talking with girls. The pattern seems to be: get in, pick a girl, negotiate, and get out quickly.

Attitude of Girls, Staff, and Management (Very Poor):

The staff at this place sucks. Truly, they were awful. It was enough to turn our initial positive impression of the place completely around. When you enter, you pay 25 or 30 pesos, and are told that your first drink is included in this cover charge. They clearly told us that the first drink was inflated because it included the cover charge, but subsequent drink would be cheaper. This was logical, too. The place would certainly make money on drinks if we could sit there for an hour or two and get drunk. Also the girls would have a better chance of getting picked up and negotiating a better deal if we were drunk. Additionally, the place did not have so much traffic that they needed a quick turnover. So we ordered more drinks, and more drinks, and more drinks, only to find out that they were the same price as the initial cover charge and drink: 25 or 30 pesos just for a beer! When we mentioned that we were told by the front door staff that only the first drink was 30 pesos and subsequent drinks were cheaper, the bar and wait staff laughed and told us that it was our problem not theirs. If someone explained the pricing rules, we would have accepted it. What really chafes my ass is that they deliberately tried to deceive us! The girls on this Friday night also thought they were worth more that they really were, starting the negotiations at 400 pesos!

If the girls were hot, they could get away with it. However, the girls were only average and there are plenty of other places in town with average girls. Plus, the girls, cover charges, and drinks at the other places are cheaper and the staffs are much more helpful. Therefore, I suggest you AVOID MADAHOS. It is not worth it.

Other Clubs:

Solid Gold:

Next door to Madahos. Place is right out of Las Vegas in the 1970s with mirrored ceilings and lots of gold paint. Grils are average, but you can always find one girls among 50. It costs 25 pesos to get in, which includes TWO drinks. Subsequent drinks are 25 pesos apiece, but they tell you this up front. Staff is VERY helpful. A hostess and a waitress stopped by our table 2 or 3 times to explain things to us in English. You must but the girl a 30 peso drink before you leave with her (maybe two drinks, but they explain it all to you).

Affaire:

In Recoleta, other side of cemetery from Madahos and Solid Gold. Girls are average, a step down from Black, Madahos, and Solid Gold. 25 or 30 pesos to get in, but that includes THREE drinks. Small, dark, bar set up with bar along one wall, and dance floor along the other, and no tables or stage (that we could see). We paid 150 pesos to per girl, with no negotiating (so you may get a better deal). We paid for one drink per girl before we left (30 pesos apiece), and since we do not speak very good Spanish, we only assumed it was an exit fee. No help from Bartenders or other staff.

Black:

There on Tuesday night. Girls are averge to above average-NOT the hottest chicks in town, but some nice ones. The Place is VERY smoky, very dark, and poorly laid out. Some hot girls, many average girls, and a few that looked older than 40! 25 pesos to get in, which includes one drink. Did not get subsequent drinks, but based on the other places I assume they are expensive. Front door staff was helpful, but we did not find the english speaking bartender that others on WSG said was helpful. Girls started negotiations at 200US dollars, but came down quickly from there.

Where do you find the best looking girls in Buneos Aires? Via several internet sites like platynum, or with Roxanne's help.

BDO

OttoGraham
12-02-03, 14:50
BDO,

As a customer who has been to Madaho's many times, I don't agree with your assessment of the place. As I've posted my opinions on this previously, I don't think there's any great need to debate the issue. However, thanks for your report, it is detailed and helpful, even in the portions which I don't agree with. :D

-Uncle Otto

Nickster53
12-02-03, 15:03
TallnHandsome, thanks for all the good reports, you mentioned that Larrea 1072 was gone. That was one of my favorite private apartments. Can anyone verify that?

I will be back in BA for a couple of days next week. I hope to catch-up with anyone that will be around.

James D 2004
12-02-03, 15:48
US$300 for 2 hours!
That´s a good headline isn´t it? Confirmed. I think that´s what the Brazilian girl started with at Blacks on Sat night and another girl do the same to me at Madahos on Monday night. But I think that´s the price they want to go home with me for the night, with some negiotiation.

Regarding service of the clubs you have to excuse that everbody is in town and the hotels are full last week and perhaps not any better this week. In Blacks I didn´t see any waiter at all. I only saw the English speaking waitess when I sat down with Emily with her 60 peso drink. I think they might be overwhelmed on SAT and the layout is indeed poor and dosen´t help the service. That´s the price you have to pay in central Recoleta.

Instead of hitting the spa, too expensive and I don´t want my little brain asking for a handjob when I don´t want to, I called an internet girl instead as recommemded by a WSG member, Angeles. I asked her if she speaks English and she said she didn´t. That wasn´t expected. But she started to speak in good English. She slipped that 'I have this girl', or 'one of the girls', something like that. I asked her name immediately and she said Angeles. Her English is good until I asked her whether it is complete service. How convenient. Anyway I decided to see and that´s only 100 peso if I let her in. I always have to open the door when the lift comes up because they will get lost. I saw the back of a short blonde with dull blonde hair outside so I opened the door. She turned around and and it was an 50 year old woman. Lucky before I asked her to leave I realized that she would be my neighbour. Angeles came short after. I don´t why I let her stay. She has a young body but more like a fuller thai girl. She isn´t pretty and wear no makeup, a lot don´t because I guess it would be very expensive, they are guarding the farmacy like banks. Perhaps it´s world aids day the condom didn´t leave her hand, until she put it on me first thing after we undressed. Pretty uninteresting and Julia is a better fuck if you are not that horny. And Arbil is a bay watch babe if you overlook the natural tits a little bit.

I´m dam sure that I cannot perform again the same day. But instead of staying home I decided to save time and check out Madaho to find a potential date for tomorrow.

James D 2004
12-02-03, 17:20
Monday night at Madahos. I went there only for drinks and check out the girls. Since I walked some guys want to escort me into Blacks and Solid Gold and I almost did. That was before 11pm and the place was almost empty with a lot of waiters around. The entry fee is 25 with a coupon you can get outside the door. All waiter ignore me when I walked across the bar. That´s bad but I think nobody speaks english. But at least a guy point me to the bartender who speaks good english, and is very courteous even before I gave her 4 peso tips. Now I know why I was charged double for my drink in Blacks because you have to show your receipt you get for the entrance fee. This good looking female bartender has the decency to ask me for the receipt. I also asked at the entrance that the drink is 25 and for the lady is 35. That´s the only person you are sure that speaks english.

There were only a few guys and a few girls there. But at either 11 pm or 11:30, loads of girls started to arrive and change. I think there must be 50 or above. Again most of them looks average. Can´t compare with Blacks because in Blacks I´m at the outside end of the bar so I can see too much inside, but at Madahos I sat at the inside end of the bar so I can see too much lining along the two bars. But I think the dress code is different. I would say most girls at Blacks can walk into the hotel with you with a jacket on. Most girls at Blacks have to change first, and they did.

At first I think it could be better than Blacks. I saw a woman in a catholic school girl uniform, very short skirt with only 1 quarter of the normal shirt, just covering her tits. It meets most of my requirement and she´s pretty too with makeup. But it´s a bit far stretched as she isn´t that young. Nice figure but looked like I´m with my big sister. Some pretty slim figures sitting on the couch which is fairly dark. The better looking ones doesn´t show much stomach nor legs. Some have the slim silloette of Asians that I reminded myself not to try that here.

When I was one of three guys at the bar a Julia Robert lookalike came to hussle me for drink. Otherwise it´s peaceful and nobody comes over. At first I was tempted. She has decent legs and boobs but I reminded myself that I cannot manage. We don´t understand a word from each other and she´s also looked old enough to be my big sister. She doesn´t look bad with makeup. So I let her invite me down to a table. But she molested me so much that I had to call the waiter to tell her that I´m here only for drinks, too dam tired. The friendly waiter that I first saw brought the good looking bartender for translation. Julia Robert felt so screwed up in front of her peers. I would have offered her more drink but she disappeared right away.

Then I watched the show sitting alone half hidden at the table by the bar. The stripper at Blacks kick ass. Both strippers at Madahos wasn´t my cup of tea. When I was doing the X file smoking man impression, an old woman came over. She talked with me in english. I was being polite but prepare myself to tell her that I´m not interest in her. She surprised me by asking me what girl I want. That´s a good idea when no waiter speaks english. I told her very clearly that I don´t want to take anybody out but I´m happy to have a drink with the TWO girls practically standing next to me.

Girl 1 I spotted a long time ago sitting in the dark. Looking back what attracted me was her Joana Lumley deep eyes, as in the Avenger repeats, not in Absolute Fabulous. Intense even she sits low in the dark shadows. Looked like a leggy pretty young girl. Girl 2 annoyed me a lot when she practically standing next to me swaying to the music, and I can´t stop watching her slim long legs in her mini. Girl 1 looked Californian and Girl 2 looked Asian but they both from Parayqua, you know what I should have typed, or something like that. They are indeed happy to come over for a drink and very proud of their nationality over the argentines for a change. Forgive me but I think nobody was watching at that corner so I did that stunt to save time. Both checked out OK, not bare tommy but can´t be too bad at that age. G2 is even slimmer than some Asian girls. The translator asked me to take both girl out and said my hotel is OK with that. That would be a good idea but I don´t want to go into too much risky investment all at once. Then I asked the price for girl 1, 300us 2 hours. I asked in peso but there´s no point as the figure is too much to handle. When I said people at most pay 100us and she said that´s for one hour only. She offered 150us and I´m not surprised she agreed with 100us. No full service as half the girls don´t that I´m told, that would be the younger girls.

At the end 4 lady drink plus my own. My translator asked for tips for everybody for their company too. Everybody is happy including me. Last time I pulled that stunt in California that hurt my pocket very deep.

I forget to tell you that when I was holding 4 legs in 2 hands, the wood came from no where. It must be the residue levita. So I actually took girl 1 out, and half promised to take girl 2 out tomorrow. I can´t pronunce their names. After she changed clothes, we go out of the shadows and I regretted a little bit. Her face is not that smooth and her jaws... think of the face of the guy whom Madonna put wax onto... but think in a very good way, can´t you? Madahos provide transportation too. When I arrived in an unmarked car with company my hotel security man opened the door for me. I think when you bring girls to a hotel they have to do some paper work or something. But my hotel is excellent and I never need to. They all know me from day one. All girls are a little bit hesitated to walk straight through, either the only front desk man looked down as if we don´t exist, or almost wanted to walk us to the lift.

She has my type of curves, flat stomach and natural nice looking tits with nipples that response to stimulation. I can overlook the few tatoos, not very visible on her natural sun tan anyway. One should not say bad things to oneself. At Madahos I asked her whether she kisses. I said I may not able to fuck but I can at least kiss. I kissed the hell out of her but I could not come. No matter how hard I fucked I couldn´t. I imagined I raped her holding both her hands tight and enter her pussy when she is flat on her tommy. That work a bit until she tried to cooperate. I took the condom off and gave up. But she stimualted me with her hands that feel good. Then she blew me bare, and when it´s hardly unlikey that I will shoot without warning, she blew very hard non stop. I enjoyed every moment of it and told her to rest. I regretted that I didn´t bring any levita with me to Madahos just in case.

The worst has yet to come. I must have a Brain infection from the Brazilian alcoholic. She left her cigarettes in Blacks, left two condoms and a bracelets in my hotel. Actually I left when girl 1 finished changing her clothes. But my credit card hasn´t come back yet. I have to take girl 1 back to Madahos. Everybody recognized me and probably laughed their ass out. I saw girl 2 sitting outside in the bright bar. I should have taken her instead. The transport guy waited for me to come out and escort me into his unmarked car. I have to tip him again and he said nice to meet you again.

BTW, does anyone knows of an internet place with cafe near Recoleta? I´m desperate for coffee as I missed all my breakfast. I also need privacy as I can visit many other sites apart from the decent WSG forum. I had better things to do than posting in WSG. Got the hint?

Andres
12-02-03, 18:33
Dick for brains:

Do NOT take the train to Flores. Better, take a cab (ar$10 from Downtown) or a bus (ar$0.80)

Envidia is located at Argerich St, close to Rivadavia Av.

Andres

Dick for Brains
12-02-03, 19:20
Andres,

What's wrong with the train? Is it dangerous, out of the way, slow, too far from the clubs? I'll have two weeks in BA and am interested in exploring all that the city has.

Please advise.

DfB

Dancesw/Chicas
12-02-03, 19:23
Nickster 53
If you go to google and type "cieloprivate" you'll see
the website of Larrea 1072. There's a phone number
where you can find out. Let us know if the place is still
in business. Have you been with Florencia or Paola??

Nickster53
12-02-03, 21:15
DWC,

I had been with Zoie a couple of times and it was a great experience. I will check out some of the names that you mentioned to see if they are worthy ;-)

I know there had been a lot of mixed reviews about the place, but I really liked knowing what you were there for and everything was spelled out. If you don't want to spend half the night trolling and interviewing, it's a great solution.

I will call the number when I arrive or maybe even ask Roxana to check it out for me.

Has anyone had any experience with a girl on Area-VIP called Aixa. She looks great and I am going to check it out unless I hear the contrary.

JustGotBack
12-03-03, 01:58
Thinking about a trip over Xmas. Will it be worth it or will the girls be off for the holidays?

Hefe
12-03-03, 03:51
hi,

this was my second trip to ba and i had a blast. i wish i went to the wsg thankgiving party, but i had a morning flight on taca airlines in the morning. don't recommend taca, it was fairly inexpensive, but the food was bad, sandwiches and cookies 6 times for the round trip, and they played crocodile dundee 4 times on the flight. anyways, went to the colguema spa, i don't really recommend it. the place is very old and cost 195 pesos for vip which includes and hour massage. there are several girls to choose from and they are very good looking, and for a 100 pesos, you get a handjob. sorry, hard to say no to a very good looking girl when she is rubbing your balls. i went to affaire and madahos for the duration of my 2 weeks in ba. the talent at madahos was excellent. the one time i went to black was very good too. apparently, on wednesday, they had an anniversary party at blacks and thursday, at madohos. nothing special, just a floor show. i paid the 50 pesos drink at madahos. i did not know there was a 35 pesos drink for the girls, i feel cheated. i made the mistake of sticking to one girl for the majority of my trip and she felt jealous when going with other girls. i think i am in love, but i slapped my face and said what the hell. anyways, sorry but do not have time to post more info but thanks all you for posting some good info, making me want to go even more.

Bunda Blast
12-03-03, 04:18
Third day in Buenos Aires

Went to Envidia. Great looking girls, the price is unbelievable. I highly recommend this place. It is phenomonal for the price. I was quoted 100 for complete service and took a Argenitinian named Gabriel home. Great service, real GFE. Recommeded

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to remove the multiple periods at the ends of sentences. To avoid future delays, please use just one period at the end of sentences in future reports. Thanks!

MoonDog
12-03-03, 06:20
Just Got Back,

The town will be absolutely dead between December 25th and January 5th.

Moondog

Jackster
12-03-03, 11:55
This was my first trip to BA and I had an amazing time. Already checking the ticket prices and thinking about returning before the summer is over.

About me: I live in NYC, late 20’s, basic Spanish.

During this trip I had a lot of new experiences that include:

1. Trying to keep up with a bunch of mongers in their 40’s and 50’s and failing miserably.

2. Having sex with 3 chicas a day.

3. Seeing my 39 year old friend who traveled with me almost burst into tears after he discovered that he still could have 2 orgasms in 1 hour with one of the chicas at Santa Fe 1707. The last time he had 2 orgasms in 1 hour was exactly 20 years ago.

4. Going on a date with a non-pro and having a great mentally stimulating conversation without experiencing a hard-on because of an intense session with an internet chica a few hours earlier.

5. Trying anal without negotiating it in advance, only to see the chica turn around and say in perfect English – “Please remove your dick from my ass!”. Turns out, this is the only English sentence she knows.

My most memorable experience, however, was meeting and hanging out with a group of interesting intelligent and funny as hell guys who gladly share the wealth of information. I couldn’t have done it without you!

Andres
12-03-03, 14:55
Dick for Brains:

The train is dirty, slow, overcrowded, unreliable and dangerous. In fact, you may spend a lot of time waiting for a train to leave the Once station (and in fact, you have to go there from Recoleta, which is half the way to Flores). Also, you won't "experience" that much since Flores is only 2 stations from Once and the train goes into a trenched railroad, so no landscapes at all to see.

You won't get killed or injured, but some pickpocketers may detach your wallet from you. From my point of view, I would take it only if I had to go far away from the city (to Tigre, for instance).

If you want to go by different means, take the subway to Primera Junta (end station of Linea A) and from there take the bus #86. It's 20 minutes by subway and 10-15 minutes by bus. That way, you can have a complete "local transportation" experience. However, you cannot do that after 11PM (subway closes).

Hope this helps,

Andres

Marcos
12-03-03, 15:27
Jackster, welcome to the club.
I`m glad to know your friend found fresh potency in one of the mythical apartaments in BsAs. That cleary shows how much our sex lives are driven by preconcept and external influence., like "for sure a 40 years old guy can´t perform like a 20 years one". That is simply not true.
The real matter is that most guys simply don´t have a valid sexual partner to stimulate them at any age. Give them an hot, willing chica, and watch what ANY 40-50-60-... guy can really do.
Of course our hipocracy society found a sure remedy in viagra and the likes. I still have to find a doctor that would reccomend a sex trip somewhere rather than drugs. They would certainly reccomend against going with pro´s because the health risk, but the pocket the commissions from the drug makers. So, the money stays in the States rather than going to a [latin|asian|east-european] girl that certainly needs it more than pfitzer, the guy stays home working on fake, miserable wood with the unattractive woman of all his life, and everyone is happy.
Sorry about this rant. Welcome to be back soon in this great country, but please never say again that the most memorable experience was to meet the other mongers, c'mon!!!

BDO:
We can`t simply "avoid madhao". We already, almost collectively, made a will to not patronize blacks for the simple and most important reason: it´s overpriced. Now we have reports that nuevo estilo has become overpriced too, and another one goes.
And, for any and every place where you pick-up pros, I could tell you some kind reason against. I mean, if we begin to scrap places off the list, we are left with very little. And, get real about the drinks prices. where do you think are, in such places? These are brothels except they have no facilities on site, and the rule is simple, suck money out of you. You should consider yourself luck as in any European or American night-club you would be ripped-off all the time, but never get laid. Here´s, in madaho or elsewhere, you bring home a good, cheap screw every once in a while.
If you want to buy a drink, ask first how much, and pay it on the spot. I ensure you that will make thirst go away. If the girl pushes for drinks, grab her ass and tell her that you´ll barfine only if she´s good in bed, and begin negotiang before buying a drink. If the bartender or waitress pushes, tell them to wait as you're still talking. Nobody is going to harass you as long you`re discrete and know what you what. On these terms, you can stay in the clubs practically as much you want with one drink.
Actually, if you speak some spanish, you can even get in for free, ´sin compromiso´. Remember them that if you came in a taxi, the club will give to the driver the admission price for any in your party. They´re investing $1 worth of a drink on the fact you may have more drinks inside, and will take out a girl, thing on which they get a commission. If you have the face (´caradura´) to tell'em that, you'll save money and gain respect.
Of course, if nothing of the above works for you, and you feel bothered, just leave the place. It means they cater to suckers, and you don´t want to be one, right?

Happy Cat
12-03-03, 17:31
A rather unothortodox week in BA

Staying all the week in BA with the same girl is against all the FFF rules and not appropriate for wannabe AMA member. Or is it?

A few months ago I’ve met this girl Daiana (or Norma in the Jaimito Cartero report in the photo section 09-20-03). Returning to BA for a week I contacted her and asked to come to my hotel the night of my arrival. Things evolved so wonderfully that she stayed all of her free time with me (not as a cliente as she said), and of course I gave her lots of presents and take her and her daughter to a trip in the Tigre.

Every night I accompanied her to her duty station at Catto´s (btw they have a very decent tango singer and a nice show), bought her 3 $ar20 drinks as to allow her to leave, and then she stayed TLN in my place. As Jaimito says in his post about Marisol, Daiana (Norma) is not the prettiest, nor the tallest, but she is has a nice body and is very funny, joyful, likes to dance and gives the full GFE.

Time of balancing accounts: GFE, 8 TLN, dancing and tango show, “family” trip to Tren de la Costa and Tigre boat. In terms of “pop counting” I just need to quote Stoly: “The real matter is that most guys simply don´t have a valid sexual partner to stimulate them at any age. Give them a hot, willing chica, and watch what ANY 40-50-60-... guy can really do”. The costs are equally difficult to measure, but you can say that the grand total was under $600 US including some activities that I would have done for my own leisure. Of this total, US200 went to Catto´s cashier in terms of drinks for her “liberation” plus a few for Marisol and Rosa Maria.
At the end I felt a little bit restricted, not having the opportunity to meet other girls and had to give up some contacts with friends and prospect new girls because I needed to sleep and work all day. She was sticking to the boyfriend delusion and wanted to be with me all the time, and I didn´t wanted to disappoint her. Was, like an Argentinian said, “a love with expiring date” But I think it was worth of it.

James D 2004
12-03-03, 18:17
I can´t decide going back to Mahados to make good my promise or go to solid gold that is more tourist friendly. I went back to Mahados at 2 am for the so called sloppy 2nd, but I hope girl 2 is less likely to watch the clock and return to work. And I don´t think she is too hot in demand so I may still be the 1st, of the day. (I know why now because she ask for a lot.) And it´s more likely to get a reasonable price for her to stay over. Anyway, going at 11:00 pm is 1st shot at the clubs, but if she is good, it´s likely to be 2nd or 3rd already for the day.

I have to put back in some good words. 2am Tuesday is rather lesuirely. But 2am Wednesday is a full crowd. God knows how many girls and how many guys. The stripper looks good but I can´t walk any closer. The other tango show must be very good too as everybody remain standing up to watch. I struggled to walk one round to find girl 2 and to announce my presence. No luck. The girls are pretty good but I don´t have the opportunity to check them out thoroughly with my eyes. I resigned at the corner by the dressing room for my drink. Then a girl at the door, which is rather close to me, caught my eyes. Someone must have spotted me and she is waiting for me to wave her over. I let her slipped away once and there´s no way I´ll let it happen again. Last night it was she who found me and swaying her legs practically next to me. But she was dressed in a floffy body hugging dress, very short but elegant, very tight and she looked flat like a school girl. She also speaked like the woman gun expert in Miami CSI that doesn´t help. If she dressed like this yesterday, I could not had possibly gone for her friend from Paraquay also.

She was in a hyper mini in length, covering only 270 degree of her body. Bare shoulder and tommy. So I ordered her drink, took her home in the unmarked car, and fell in love at the moment. Before that she asked me how many women I had since I arrived, as I´m always tired. I replied by asking her how many men she had that day. She replied with a wicked smile. My front desk man seemed to be very pleased with my selection too. On first impression, with a lot of alcohol, and possible brain infection -- Asian girls just don´t have that sort of upper and lower legs in that proportion. Only some European schools girls come close to those slender legs. Worth discovering a new continent for. Perfect C cup with neat nipples, all natural, worth a million. Her ass and waist line is best of Playboy combining Western verion and Asian version. Her face is very exotic that may or may not turn out good in my pictures but I love it. Just the nose is worth a billion dollars to Michael.

Her service is excellent. Younger Korean girls are just not as good at her age. Sleeping with her I got the good old feeling of spending the night in Bangkok. Her name sounded familiar and I guess many guys in this board knows who I´m talking about.

As for the cost? Astranomical. I know she is way overpaid. But that´s the price you have to pay if you want to go it alone, instead of learning to fuck like the locals. If you have a friend in BKK or even TJ, you would do very well. Imagine that she worths over a grand an hour in LA and me hurt less. I remember the quote from a chica that a short time well spend is better than a long time that is so so, something like that. That´s so philosophical. If you want to pay for the going rate, that´s nothing going for you as a visitor. She don´t need you as she has plenty of local takers. I booked her again to come straight to my hotel. And I´m happy to fly her over anytime if she manage to get her visa to US to fulfil her dreams. But no way I´m going to be responsible for the cost to retreive her if she disappears.

Well worth the trip, if only she watches the clock less. Unexpected budget but you only live once.

Ponce de Leon
12-03-03, 19:13
Hefe -

I'm surprised you didn't like Colmegna but you should note it's not a place most of us go to for sexual services. It's a perfect place to relax and unwind, get a good unsexual massage and get a good steam and spa. I've been there several times but never have used it for hobbying. It's a great place to relax. Have fun.

MoonDog
12-04-03, 01:43
GatoFelix,

This is the perfect way to spend a few days with a good friend, and there is nothing wrong with it. When you find one of these girls that you really click with, it is very nice to wake up to that beautiful curvy body, and know that you will see her later that day, as well as during the week.

They all know that they can be replaced in 15 minutes, so she should be on her best behavior.

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

B69
12-04-03, 20:34
Report 1: Intro and the chicas.

All right, time for some reporting.
As some of you faithful readers probably know, last week B69 was in town. While a gathering of mongers took place…
So eventful that I had no time to post at all !!!!

So I will give a summarized depiction of all that took place, from the chicas I spent time with, to the Thanksgiving diner, to the La Matanza charity event, the 2nd Clarin event (yes, you read that right), visit to Colonia and Tigre Delta, and it goes on and on…

This time Slick 1 and I stayed in one of the big Parera 156 apartments. USD 100 a day. Maid included. A good deal and very close (5 blocks) to the Recoleta scene.

1. The Girls
During my stay I tasted the following chicas, and can say I only had from good to wonderful experiences:

- Alexia from Platynum website. Very sweet. Good BBBJ. Wonderful tits. Very friendly. Almost a GFE. Highly recommended. Approx 23 years old. Argentine from Missiones. Nice orange/light brown skin colour. 1m63.

- Lucila (or Lucia) from Hook. Dominican. As fellow monger Judd described, amazing ass. The mother of all bubblebutts. Also very friendly, and close to a GFE. Good BBBJ. Approx 26. 2 kids. A very nice person. 1m55.

- Rocio from Madaho. Argentine. Approx 29. Big firm, natural tits. Firm bubblebutt. Perfect body, I kid you not. Wears tight jeans and top, which is a good appetizer of things to come. Cute, smiling face. Works out a lot at the gym and it shows. Also very friendly. Like your neighbourhood girl in looks. Smart and had good conversation. CBJ. As commented to some mongers, an unsually longer tongue than most girls, which she slipped down my throat like an egg-beater and capable of sweeping my two testicles in one single scoop! 1m64. Not a GFE but a pretty good time.

- Carolina from Madaho. Dominican. 24 years old. 7 months ago when I first went with her, it almost was a GFE. This time, about 250 guys later, she was not as friendly. I felt she tried finishing me off quickly. CBJ. I had an ok time, unlike the first time which was very very good. A great body in my opinion. Very light kissing unlike the first time when she gave me deep passionate kisses. Short, approx 1m60, but everything in the right place.

- Ayeleen from Affaire (Puereydon). Argentine girl from BA. 21 years old. Very cute. Wide hips but not fat at all. Pretty decent body. Looks a bit Turkish, with her dark eyes, skin and hair. Very sweet girl. Chatty. Pretty smile. CBJ. Has to take care of her all family (parents and 4 brothers and sisters). No kissing. 1m66. Not a GFE but a good time.

- Alexia 2 (another) from an apartment. Part of the 30 girls which composed the 2nd Clarin event. 21 years old. Looks 18 though. Has one kid. This girl is amazingly cute. Irresistible. Dboy and Slick1 agree with me on this one. As soon as I saw her, I knew I had to make my move… More on that in another post. This girl is what dreams are made of. No kissing though. Very good CBJ. You can get the phone number of the apartment (and see pics) through Jackson.

- Celeste from Estilo Nuevo. In my opinion, and Dashing Don agrees with me, the hottest girl in Estilo Nuevo. Blond. 1m62. 20 years old. From Missiones. Orange/light brown skin. Since she is so hot, I was afraid I would have a so-so time, thinking she might be jaded. It was the best of all. A true GFE. We had passionate, long, sex. Tremendous. Just this experience made the whole trip worthwhile.

More to follow…

FKK Newbie
12-04-03, 23:33
My first trip there this thanksgiving was a blast. Obviously the girls were the best part. I still fail to fathom how 99% of the girls in Buenos Aires are total knockouts. And I am not talking about working girls but the girls on the streets, in malls, in cafes, in airports etc. etc. etc. Their attitude is unbeatable. They are good looking, wild and flirt a lot. I recommend you check out the Unicenter mall in BsAs. It is the biggest mall in South America. Lots of fine looking chicas ready to flirt with you. Me and my buddy were in this mall and two chicas approached us and tried to pick us up! We spent some time with them in the mall and then had incredible sex in the hotel rooms later on. And they were not working women, they were regular college girls looking to have some nice time. It was difficult to send them back and it seemed they really enjoyed making out!! Can you believe this?? Neither can we! But thats the beauty of Buenos Aires.

The club scene:

Madahos - too much smoke, striptease dance is there which is good. The girls are hot and are not pushy. I found one to my liking and was pretty satisfied. she did not speak English and I dont speak Spanish. Somehow just managed to negotiate the price. 150 pesos for 1 hour. I was staying in Etoile which is not far away.

By the way, the Etoile is a great hotel. good value for money. I took her to the room. She was pretty good gfe. She was very willing to give BBBJ (most girls there are). finished the first round with intense DFK and BBBJ. the second round was mostly missionary and 69. I got all I wanted except we kept our mouths shut. anyone can guess why?

NEB (Nueva Estillo Boliche)

There was this guy (the owner or manager there) who spoke perfect english. He was a great guy. They had free pizza that night which was good because we hadn't eaten anything. The girls were average. the girls at the reception and the waitresses were actually hotter but they weren't available. Too bad! One of the girls was very pushy and wanted me to buy her a drink when I wouldnt even give her the time of the day. She was not my type at all and I conveyed this to her but for some reason she insisted. The lesbian show at 130 acted as the saving grace because then we started watching that and I moved away from there. The lesbian show was wild. It started with two girls and soon a third joined in. Two of them short blondes, one brunnete. All very busty with asses to die for. I could have done all three there and then but resisted. I took one of the blondes home later that night. My buddy picked up the other one. They were real angels. A lot of wild sex. I will spare the details with saying they were total GFE's. Do pick them up of you are there next time. She had a thing for body hair though as she kept telling me how much body hair I have and how she really liked it! Whatever.

Affaire:

This looked like a punishment alley as my buddy puts it. various girls sitting around the bar with their asses put forward. some of them were real gems. I picked one I liked but didnt turn out to be too good in the hotel room. It looked like she had too much makeup or sillicones or whatever. It was a so so experience but still worth the money.

Checked out some other places like Black, Newport and some apts but nothing interesting there.

Also try the massage in the Etoile hotel if you are staying there. Not sexual but very good to have after a long flight. Learn some spanish, otherwise forget about Buenos Aires completely. I mean it. I could have enjoyed much more had I known spanish.

Looking forward to spanish classes and another trip to heaven on earth.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid future delays, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!

Slick1
12-05-03, 03:19
I can vouch for Celeste from ENB simply from the look on B69's face after he finished the session. He had seen the light for sure.

For me, this was another memorable trip of fine cuisine, good sex and extraordinary comraderie from the many true gentlemen in town. However, the images that remain most vivid in my memory stem from the day myself and a diverse van full of friends headed out from the comfortable confines of Recoleta to the Comedors of Las Matanzas. We can compare ad nauseum the chicas from Madahos with those of Black but for me there was no more beautiful sight than the tiny little child who clutched to her chest the doll I gave her, for the entire time we visited the center. It was painfully obvious that these children have never received a toy and subsist on nothing more than what these centers can muster up for a meal. A piece of bread or watered down evaporated milk was all they had to satisfy the pangs of hunger. Equal to the looks of joy on the childrens faces was the happiness I saw in their parents eyes from the mere fact they could watch the smiles on their childrens faces. I witnessed extraordinary acts of kindness such as when the center director was brought to tears when Capt. Dave reached in to his own pocket for some funds to help her battle her leukemia. For me it was a day I hopefully will never forget. It was during this outing that I realized I could not change the world, but that I alone could greatly influence the lives of a small part therein.

My most heartfelt thanks go out to the charity organizer Jackson, and to those gentlemen that responded to his requests for help at the Thanksgiving dinner. While Jackson understandably was attempting to be the perfect host, I found it hard to complain about gravy being late or the cranberry sauce being made instead from currants after what I witnessed the day before. I am just now getting to the point I can relate the events of that day without choking up. For those that have seen the pictures I can only state that I am sure glad I wore my dark shades that day.

Hooks, Madahos, Excedra, Affaire, Orleans and all the rest are great my friends. No need for me to further breakdown the pros and cons. All I can say is that if you truly want a wonderful lasting memory from BA, don't forget the kids. Peace out my compadres.

Slick1

OttoGraham
12-05-03, 13:07
Hey Slick,

Many congratulations on being WSG Charities contributor of the year, and thanks for your interesting post.

In fact, I was so touched by your post that I've decided to add another 100 bucks to the kitty, it's on its way Jackson.

-Uncle Otto

Capt Dave
12-05-03, 13:34
I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for the help with the charity project. It is ABSOLUTELY the memory that will stay with me, as all the chicas sort of blur together over time.

PLEASE remember that the price of one hour with some goofy club girl was enough to bring food to the table and tears to the eyes of the incredible, brave women who run these places.

There are some real heroes in our midsts - Jackson, Slick1 and Otto Graham probably at the head of the line, but a bunch of others right behind! Thanks to all of you for making me not just proud to be an American, but proud to be a slimey monger as well!

Capt. Dave

BTW - If you go on on of these trips and take some pictures, many of the chicas mistake you for a swell guy and lots of good things happen!
:)

Amantelondres
12-05-03, 14:00
Now back in Europe after another great trip to BA which was frustratingly cut short. So apologies first to Jackson that I didn't make contact but hopefully we'll meet up next time.
This time I had some predetermined objectives in the chica and food areas.
First, I wanted to check out the replacement to Wendy, ex-Platynum who was always one of my favourites and who has now retired. Her replacement is Alanise of Platynum. just like Wendy, this girl is from Misiones and is almost a clone of Wendy. She asked if i wanted a fiestita (threesome) and who am i to say no. I just lerve fiestitas!! So she calls Diana from next door/upstairs (also Platynum but better pics in Escorts) 300 pesos for the two for one hour and fantastic.

Next I just had to try Santa Fe 1707 having read all the reports. Like one or two other guys, late nights are no good for me so went after lunch and settled for Mariam and Paola. 120 each for the hour inc BBBJ. No complaints here. Was determined to come back to see Paola alone as she is a fireball. Came back next day but Paola not free so had Pamela. Adorablissima!! And from Misiones too! (also on Platynum) 80 pesos 45 minutes plus 30 tip for BBBJ. Beginning to fall in love! went back again on thanksgiving Day and had to settle for sex with Pamela in the waiting room as all you guys were in the other bedrooms.!!!
that's taking Thanksgiving a bit too far!!!!
I was impressed with Santa Fe. Sylvia the receptionist is cute and efficient and the girls are IMHO 8 to 10. And it's only a couple of blocks from where I was staying.

Dropped into Cafe Orleans and found one of my regulars from previous trips, Carolina from Brazil. No time for coffee; straight round to Horizonte Hotel for 100 pesos extravaganza. But I wanted to try out one or two others from Orleans but time did not permit.

Next day popped into Periplo, another old haunt going back many years. Great to see my friend Bauer, the barman. He introduced me to Agostina. Really smart, intelligent cool lady. Fell in lust and we departed towards the hotel. Three quarters of the way there she said she wanted 400 pesos. It started to rain, she settled for 150!!

It's been said so many times. A great place is BA. Will post restaurants visited shortly in Restaurants section

James D 2004
12-05-03, 19:41
Eventos Empresariales
tel: 4616-1490 / 8926
cel: 15 4028-7804
That´s the business card for Santa Fe 1707

I checked out at 1500 and had nothing to do. Call two closer private apartments and call. One speak a little English and said 4 girls. The other don´t speak English but said it was a house when I ask for the floor number. So I went there. Not a house but has its own entrance on the ground floor. It was much more spacious than Emersald 9xx, with a large reception area like a bar, and the bed room is huge. But it´s still a dump, and the bed sheet looked awkward and the bedroom stinks a bit. Probably it´s darker, the mamasan brought me into the bedroom for selection. The 1st young girl is not bad but too chunky and not doable after a week in BA. And it got worse from there. It´s hard to let the 3rd one to give me a pack on my cheek, and hard to return the favor. I tipped the mamasan and left.

So I returned to Santa Fe 1707. Actually the location is excellent. When the light is off on Sunday I don´t see any entrance. When the light is on the entrance is right there. I thought the glass door is for the boutique or shop. But only half the door is, the other half is the corridor. It´s misleading to say that Santa Fe is a dump, which made me hesitated to visit. Compared to others, it´s a palace. I pressed the bell and the door opened. It could be busy. I had to wait at the flat door so we don´t see other clients selecting.

I saw 5 or 6 girls, there must be others being taken up. All looked like Victoria secret models at 1st glance. All wearing two tiny piece of lingerie or tiny bikini. Usually the first ones are better. But just when I decided that there could be no better, the next one surprised me. Caught me off guard and I don't know what to pick. I think they should form a line at the end as in the pageants. Not a lot of place in the world they can do that for that price with that quality. Number one and two has great bodies and boobs, one pale and one darker. Number 3 is very young and cute, stayed a bit longer between my laps and expressed her eagerness for me to pick her. I would have picked her if that was my first day. But I settled for number 4 Jessica. I can pronounce her name which helped. No recollection for number 5 or whether there is number 6. Jessica looks very Argentina. 23, young and cute with a full grown body. Long blond and pale. All of them have a beautiful face but Jessica has beautiful eyes. Her stomach isn´t the flattest but who´s looking at that of all the other beautiful places? Most looked tall and Jessica isn´t the tallest, but she showed me that if she doesn´t take off the heels in the room she will easily hit the low ceiling.

Mamasan took me to a room with en suite toilet and wash basin, after negotiating winding corridor with steps up and down. The tiny towel that they give you is very appropriate. You don´t want to shower there anyway. Just wash you dick and go back to hotel. The mamasan must have asked for 100 peso for 1 hr that doesn´t suit me. I insist on servico completo, doesn´t care about 1 or half hour. I think mamasan said she didn´t do that or something. Mamasan use hand signal to say that the price include blow job. I didn´t budge. She gave up and went to fetch Jessica and let us negotiate. I gave her 100 and again insist on servico completo. I didn´t do it that much this trip and I´m sure I'll miss it when I return to LA. She asked for more money. I gave her the only 50 note that I had, bad luck. Citibank is closed for at least two days now and I dont´want to carry two much peso on the last day. Either it´s more than enough, or she´s cheating me.

When I was sitting on the sofa sipping my coke, she started licking my face like a puppy, a very cute puppy. DFK and all that. I was a bit hesitated but she didn´t so I gave in. Then I have to take off my clothes but continued my coke. I took my time as going there was really to kill time. She licked my balls my shaft, some other places, and then literally screw, as in bolts and nuts or bottle and cork, my penis with her mouth. It´s long enough, diminishing returns, and I had to do some directing as I can stay like that forever. So I sucked her breast and kissed her more. Her breast is not the best among others but good looking enough. After that she had no intention to go to bed. So I got my coke back and she screwed my penis some more with her mouth. I think she worried about her ass then I cum in her mouth. I had to take her to bed. Some more foreplay I kneel in front of her and I´m ready to go in. She scared me by getting into position too. I thought for a split second whether to test her by pretending to go right in. But my experience told me to ask for the condom and don´t risk more temptation. She acted as if she forgot about it. Could be true as she was then very worrying about her ass.

When I was in her pussy she began to go down the road to fake an orgasm. Of course I didn´t let her and cum with her. Then I asked her to turn over. She tried to pretend not to understand and gave me a doggie. I checked and I´m not on the hole I desired. So I touched her other hole when my penis was in one. She finally gave up. I had difficulty going in and I´m not the problem. I know she doesn´t do it that much. Otherwise she will lube it before the day's work. She isn´t a virgin I guess but a lot different from the others. She tore another condom for some lube. I still can´t enter. Then she fingered herself for a while. Then my penis followed carefully. Her ass is also better looking than many others. Most have good shape but her ass is pale and a small pink to dark pink spot right in the middle. You can see that it´s tightly closed before you enter. It´s a satisfying experience.

I didn´t bother but she was very keen on communicating. That went on even before the session started. Now she didn´t give up so I took out the Franklin. As usual she typed the whole sentence and it failed her. After a while I had to bring out the good old pen and paper. She wrote on it. I translate word by word and understand that she ask me how long I´m staying in Argentina. Of course the universal answer is 7 days and more if that´s believable. She's very pleased. She got around to something else and came back to another crucial question. Is this my 1st day? I was expecting the question and said yes when I first saw her lifting one finger. She asked me where I stayed. So I asked her whether they do outcalls to hotels. Indeed they do. I never thought about this because normally if you have an incall place, you want to maximize the use of it and don´t want spending time traveling. That would be excellent. The first thing after I clean her up in my jac I´ll rim her pretty ass. I signed that I´ll call her and she was very happy. But I saved the trouble to explain that it would be next trip.

I asked her whether she would take pictures and she said yes but no face. I went ahead but she asked for tips. I showed her my wallet and said I need to go the bank later. She let me took her picture anyway. Sometimes it doesn´t hurt to say something that the others want to hear. I said chaio and she reminded me of her name once more. The good think is that when I went out to the street it looked as though I had just been shopping.

If I could do it all over again, I would drop by after arrival. Considering that I did knock down two girls (4 holes) the day I arrived that would be an excellent stop. If the lineup is that good I would give them each a great hug, grab their ass and test the elasticity. I guess if you tip them as strippers you can take a peep in their bra and thong too. Make notes. Then call translator. "Does 1 and 3 do each other?" "Do 2 right there and take 5 back to hotel and check in." Etc, etc. Of course that's also a good place to go after check out as I did. It would be perfect to go to the spa afterward just to shower. Luckily I decided against it as there's not much time left.

Remember that they always put down two condoms on the bed side table for 1 hr, possibly three for Brazilian girls, at most you pay is US$25 for a shot. And what do you get for that? Porn star performance, amateur mileage at least for the ass, pretty young girl with a very nice body who can walk around in Victoria's secret merchandise. BKK has its advantages but the Asian girls in general don't look that good in lingeries. And as far as I know for the houses with large numbers of young, cute and sweet girls for you to take out for all nighters, they don't do lineups in lingeries or bikinis.

The only think I didn't come round to try is to looking for more classic agencies who send you a irresistible girl, who can give you an orgasm on demand, still plenty in London. I called Play Woman and they charge for US$100. If the price reflects quality, compared to Santa Fe, then this could be the ticket.

Dancesw/Chicas
12-05-03, 20:50
Amantelondres,
You mean, Silvia let you have a session in the waiting room?
That 1707 must to had been rocking that day!!!
You know there is a picture of Pamela in the photo section
posted a while back by Saint. If you like to refresh memories....
Also Amante, I know the two girls you mentioned. Wendy
was nice and I remember her saying something about her
friend from London "el ingles" she said. I am surprised she
did not "came out of retirement" for you. The other one
Alanisse is also a nice chica. She works in an Apto in Santa fe
and Junin. You can see her at www.bonnefemme.com.ar
I think if I ever go outside BA, Misiones will be a serious
place to consider..
DWC

Jaimito Cartero
12-06-03, 05:03
GatoFelix - Glad you had fun with Norma. She was a fun time, even though she was afraid of escalators! She also seemed to orgasm very quickly. Less than 30 seconds if I recall right.

This just goes to emphasize one of the things that I truly believe in. Whether the girls is a "3", a "5" or a "10", that as long as you have a good time, that's all that matters. When someone has a great attitude, and just fun to be with, that's all that matters.

I usually find that girls that aren't the "10" will work harder at pleasing you, and making sure everything is right. Whether it's a correct assumption or not, I'm going to keep doing in depth research on the subject.

Amantelondres
12-06-03, 12:39
DWC
Good to hear we have similar tastes!!! If you ask Sylvia nicely I'm sure she'll let you use the waiting room!!! The Wendy clone I saw is Alanise (as opposed to Alanisse) and she works out of the same appartment as Wendy did in Viamonte (4329 1632). Go see her, you won't be dissappointed! And get Diana to join in!! Next time I'll try Alanisse.
Thanks for the link to Saint's pix of Pamela. I just hate him !!!!She is sooo gorgeous.

Miami Bob
12-06-03, 13:12
WHEN AT MADAHOS, english only guys should meet, Bobby, the waiter. Bobby lived in new york city for years and speaks perfect English. Tip Bobby for good service and you will get the inside scoop on many of the girls. The better the understanding, generally the better or higher probablilty of a great experience, but no one bats 1000.

EZE_Amante
12-06-03, 14:35
Like B69, I did not have time to post while in BA, but I thought I would share some of the highs and lows. I met many new faces but recognized most of the names as good contributors to the board. Too many to mention all by name but in all a great group of class individuals. I hope to meet you all there again. Congratulations to Slick1 (contributor of the year), and to OttoGraham for your amazing generosity, and to all of the fellow contributors who may go for the hobby but end up making a difference in a lot of lives. Thanks to Jackson, for being such a generous host as always, and to Roxanna for all her help. It was also damn good to see my buddy Kickstand, a class act and the ladies love him (I’ll let him tell the story of the night receptionist at 1707 Santa Fe) and to finally meet Exon123, we had some good times. It was also good to finally meet Dickhead’s Maria, seems like a sweet girl, but I didn’t have time to get to know her better.

Prices for me ranged from a low of 100p/hr (several) to 200p/hr (a few internet stars), and most of the club girls were getting 150p, but were staying 1 ½ hours or more. I ordered most of the internet girls from Platynum, a few from Gemidos, and one star from Area VIP (one of only two repeat sessions). I definitely believe the ability to speak Spanish lowers the price for most of the girls. My plan before arriving, was to only spend time with girls I had never been with and no repeat sessions, and I almost made it, but broke down after a week and spent a long day and night with my favorite from past trips.

Good Internet Girls:
· Anirba – exotic and a lot of fun
· Juliana – hard body model type
· Lau (Laura) – very sweet blonde with a nice natural rack
· Anastasia (Julia) paid for 2 hrs, she stayed for 5 very affectionate
· Fer – good body, truly great technique, she said I was the only guy from the dinner that called her, and you are too late now, because she has returned to Paraguay for a few months.
· Libia – she also works in Black’s, great girl
· Marisel – bbbjtc and it took awhile bless her little heart

Bad
· Guillermina – her pics looked great so I kept calling, she (supposedly) finally answered on day 6, we made an appt, and after several calls of her claiming to be only 10 minutes away, she never showed.
· Zina – bait and switch, I sent the girl who showed up away, but she asked to use the bathroom, and it wasn’t till much later I realized that she stole a bottle of cologne I had just bought at duty free.
· All the other great looking girls I called several times each, and either got no answer, phone out of service, or no call back.

Club Girls
· Madaho’s – Can’t remember the girls name, but I took this 5’ tall blonde with a pretty face home my first night there. I had been drinking NO alcohol, but when she took off her clothes, her gut was as big as mine, which means she looked 6 months pregnant, I tried to close my eyes for the cbj, but there was no way. Florencia on the other hand was a true diamond in the rough, tall 5’7” long brunette hair with highlights, she wears glasses and dresses conservatively, is not affectionate with anyone in the club, but I was intrigued so I took a chance. Best girl I took out this club, very affectionate and fun in the hotel, did not watch the clock, great session.
· Hook – Romina, dark hair dark skinned spinner who looks about 17 (actually 22 I checked the ID) and acts shy in the club, turned into a porn star the second we hit the taxi, swears very well in English 100p, she stayed 2 hours
· Cattoos – Cindy, Dominicana, not really pretty but a lot of fun, and stayed several hours
· Affaire on Guido – Went in on the 30th, about 2am, and sat down at the table nearest the bar, got approached by the usual barracudas, and when the big blonde sat on my lap I explained that I was too tired and she was too much woman for me that night, so she offers to introduce her friend. She brings over Noelia, baby doll blonde, 18yo, hair down to her perfect little ass. I had been in the club an hour and hadn’t even seen her, but I gave the big blonde a tip on the way out because Noelia is special. She claims she is a dancer and only works in the club part time, and I tend to believe her, she gave me her mother’s cell number, while making me promise not to say anything about the club, only to ask for her when I called, great session.
· Shampoo – Belen is a 5’5” sandy blonde long hair hard body, petite with a beautiful face, prettiest girl in the club, but in high demand. She played a lot of head games in the club, but just as I got mad enough to walk out, she ran up and wanted to go, so I took her home and had a pretty good session. As we were leaving, her friend Hanna (who used to work at Playwomen) offered to come along if I would pay for her exit drink. She offered to do a dupla at no charge for her for the sex just so they could leave together. But, I was staying at the Etoile where my money was, could only have one at a time in my room, and I had just lent my buddy 400p, so I didn’t have enough cash to take them to a different hotel. Hanna ended up calling me four times before I left, and I never did do a session with her.

I also took a beautiful 21 yo blonde from Paraguay out of Cutty Sark my last day, but I can’t remember her name, B69 and Slick1 can vouch for how pretty she is, guys she was the one wearing the blue skirt the day we were in there together. I walked in at 4:30 pm she was at the end of the bar, half a drink later we were on our way to the Hotel Horizonte. Great girl stayed so long with her I almost missed my ride to the airport.

Plenty of doable girls in Café Exedra, I only did Paulina, bbbjtc 19 yo brunette. I spotted a beautiful girl in Orleans, Cynthia, but since I had just finished a marathon session my buddy took her to the hotel and said she was too inexperienced, but I have her number and will call her in April, prettiest girl I have ever seen there.

That’s more than enough for now, I’ll post again in April, I bought my tickets yesterday, and will be arriving on the 3rd. I have reserved an apartment for that trip, seems to me the best way to go.

EZE :)

Havanaman
12-06-03, 15:05
EZE_Amante,

Fabulous report. Just what I needed to get back into thinking about BA. I’m going to be hitting BA a week before Christmas and so your information may go a long way in helping me. From other reporters I know that the season will affect availability, but I do have a few contacts from my last visit. Thanks once again. Please check your PM.

Regards, Havanaman

Exon123
12-06-03, 17:19
Exon Reporting : --- First, Hi to Mickey Mouse, Stormy, EZE_ Amante, Captain Dave and everyone else --- After a month of Mongering Exon was a tired puppy when he arived back in the USA and has spent the last week wishing he'd never left --- The Thanks Giving Party was great --- I was fortunate enough to have been seated in between the two Maria's, ( no Dickhead not your Maria ) Maria M. & Maria Christina of which both women I have a crush on --- And was promised dates by both apon my return to B.A., which I hoping will be soon --- OK I planned a final date with Carolina after the party and get this: I was stood up --- No problem as there was plenty of talent at Jacksons party afterward so being the Monger I am I bagged one and took her back to my Apartmento --- Well I was tired and a little drunk and fact of the matter she just couldn't ring my bell --- She tried, o lord did she try but it wasn't going to happen --- So out the door she went about 3:00 am --- Not two minutes latter the phone rings and its Angela from Cafe Excedra, (now I'd met Angela a few days earlier after throwing out that S.W. while looking for Maria if you remmember --- "Well Come On Down Angela" and she was there in 15 minutes --- And the Fuck Fest began --- Angela is in Roberta's class the very best Ive ever had --- We went all night and into the next day --- She drained me so well I skipped Jackson's Clairn party --- We did every possition I could think of, including sitting face to face in chairs --- And finally after wakeing up the next day she really finished me off with a world class BBBJCIM that I still dream about --- I Love Buenos Aires --- Exon

Marcos
12-06-03, 17:56
-- or
Order one, take two, and pay half

I meet Andrés last night and, for a change, we decided to check out a boliche in Palermo, Oro 2287, just few blocks off Santa Fe. It´s ar$ 6 to get in, a drink is included, and you have some 15-20 girlks, most of them unattractive, that will go for a starting price of ar$ 30 to the rooms onsite. Actually there was an hot slender blonde, but was busy all the time and I couldn't check her out. The girls will come to you table in pairs, introduce themselves and leave quickly if you aren't interested. You can have a table dance for ar$16. I never patronize this kind of places as I was there mostly to chat with Andrés but somewhat a young Salteña got my attention with a good body, nice legs and pretty face, with strong indio characteristics, like cinnamon complexion.
So I asked to swap numbers to meet another day, to my surprise she says that she can leave the place without me paying any drink but we had to do it discretely. She insisted to bring her friend, another less attractive long-haired brunette for a threesome, for added security has she was new in the business. I wasn't really in for a partouze but the negotiated price (ar$ 150 for both for two hours) seemed good so I agreed and meet them outside to taxiride'em to my apartments.
Here things started to look a little bit less glamourous, with the older one showing no signs of interest in what she was supposed to do. So I had her wait in the living room, lowered the price accordingly, and proceeded to do the cutie. Not a bad experience but I had to do all the work, as she was quite unexperienced. As sometime happens with low-energy girls, a strong thursting helped a little, but in the end she was ready to leave after round one, to which I didn't had to object, and likely she didn't object on the fact that due to her early leaving I cut the price in half again, down to ar$50.
The moral of this story is: if you can screw an unenthousistic young cutie and keep the economic damage low, you will sleep OK anyway.

Zé Duron
12-06-03, 19:11
Hi happy and lucky mongers,

I read a few of your reports and I envy you guys. I live in Portugal where I have been looking for the scene we are all in, and to tell you the truth the situation here is quiet goob, but compared to your many reports...

I hapo that I can make it someday but it´s a long and expensive trip and I can´t really find the time, unfortunatly.

If any of you guys drops by I promise4 some help.

The only problem in Portugal there´s way to little people posting reports cause with the help of this board one can rule the scene.

Happy X-mas

Bunda Blast
12-07-03, 18:10
Dec.7 in BA

Things are still going very well. Looking forward to another great week here then off to the North of Argentina.

Went to Santa Fe 1707 today. Had Pamela. Negotiated for BBBJ, CIM, Greek all for 160 pesos, that included the house fee. All in all a pretty good experience, she did as promised, but I always got the feeling she was in a bit of a hurry. Not a very good GFE, although some DFK. She is about 26, from Missiones, and has a nice body, but with small perky breasts.

Went back a little later and had Jimena. She is a beautiful, I would say 8. She was 22 and had incredible breasts and body. She was very GFE but with CBJ and no greek. But what a looker, and friendly.

Had Rocio last night from Madahos. You cant say enough about her body. Outstanding, probably the best I have had in BA. 200 for everything including DFK, CIM, Greek, BBBJ. Very GFE but still in a bit of a hurry but always trying to hide it.

I found Madahos to have the highest overall quality in that in general, there were more good lookers there than anywhere else. But there are always jewels in the rough everywhere. The problem with Madahos is that it is a sellers market. It is always crowded with men, and although there are a lot of women, the price seems to creep up as time goes on. I look for attitude more than looks, and this can sometimes be hard to come by for less than 300 pesos which is what they all ask for, and I refuse to pay. The most I paid was 200 for a good looker, with all of the extra perks thrown in. You could probably get any girl in there with all the perks for 300 pesos, but I am cheap, so I go from girl to girl asking details about what they offer and for how much.

There is a bar on the main drag in Recoleta where all of the restauraunts are called I think Barleys or something like that. It is a great place for independent hookers. They are pretty good looking , and the price is good. The benefit is no cover charge and no salida for the girl. Also, check out Clarks on that same steet for essentially the same thing-indenpents who negotiate pretty well.

I think Corrientes 1965 is closed. I went there 3 times and no one was there

The address given for Guemes 1221 or something like that is incorrect. The numbers start at 2000. So if someone could rectify that , it would be good.

I will keep posting as time goes on from sunny beautiful BA.

Bunda Blast,

You can ignore the Argentinos in the clubs. They're not your competition, because for the most part they're not buying anything but drinks for themselves, and the girls know it.

You are correct about the prices in Madahos. It's irrelevant what the girls ask for, 200 pesos is the price. Of course you shouldn't be asking them what their price is anyway, because you don't want to give them the opportunity to start playing games in the first place. Just offer them 200 pesos from the get-go, and if they don't accept, just shrug your shoulders and start looking elsewhere around the room.

FYI, I've been asked several times in the recent months by girls who know me, not to tell the other Americans what the price is. Of course I just laugh politely and tell them that I'm not going to stand by and let them put a hustle on my friends.

In addition, there are three girls I know in Madahos that won't even talk to me because they know that I know what the price is, and that I'm not going to pay the "stupid gringo" prices they want. No problem for me, because in the end there's no shortage of "A" list girls in Madahos who know me and who always find an opportunity to approach me to get introduced to my friends.

Jackson

Big Daddy Oh
12-07-03, 18:45
Stoly,

Thanks for the advice on negotiating cover charges to stretch my dollars and earn respect with the door staff.

BDO

Dickhead
12-08-03, 15:08
Güemes 3221 #2A 4823-3150. Hours 10-10, closed Sun IIRC. Madam says it's better to call first.

MeGustaBoliches
12-08-03, 15:18
Megusata did a quick tour Friday night...wow things change so quickly here....

Ness is back on the map....couple of very attractive blondes working...150 pesos...

Newport....some really attractive girls...but I find Newport hit or miss in terms of how hard the chicas are....some are in and out as quickly as possible, while others are only semi pros from Argentina, and if you are nice to them they will be nice to you. I asked the mozo--waiter--about a girl that interested me...very hard was the reply....a nice tip to the waiter, and I was off to Madahos....

Madahos.....200 pesos seems to be the minimum price these days...lots of chicas, but lots of guys too....Emily was there...I gave her greetings from all her amigos.....

Afaiire....a very up and down club....last time I was here it was down...this time, up...more girls than guys, and some very attractive chicas to be found...took out a brunnette spinner,20 years old for 150 pesos......

Excedra ...I have visited here twice between midnight and one, with mixed results.....one night, bueno, the other all older very hard looking chicas....(if you can cçall 40 something women chicas....)

Marcos
12-08-03, 18:28
I left for Sao Paulo yesterday but wanted to give a last spin before take-off. Went to the usual places in Recoleta, nothing interesting. The only doable blonde at Newport wouldn't go for less than ar$ 200, and she`s leaving to Europe next month. I higly encourage not to hire at these prices. If they can get big $$ elsewhere, good for them but remember thay have to stick to local prices as long they're here.
Madaho was almost empty at almost 4 am. But I hooked up with Perla, a tall mulatta form Venezuela, she's really beautiful. Offered ar$ 150 and she took it. I assume no smart girl will turn-down a decent offer at that time. She has a good personality and become quite horny once I worked on her. Sometime I picture myself as a kind of good hooker while repeatively trying to make these girl happy and warm-up the whole event.
She was then genuinely tired and ready to leave, I had to ask for a second that was quite good too. Great ass and legs for doggies.
Didn't slept a blink, packed and off to the airport. Sao Paulo downtown looks terrific, but quite expensive compared to Argentina. More to follow from there.

Caiparinhia
12-08-03, 21:09
This is my first message on the Forum. I recently returned from a trip to Rio, Buenos Aires, and Montevideo and was helped by the comments on this site, so I felt I should put back in to the system.

Buenos Aires was an awesome city and lots of sexy women in general. I went in to a few different clubs and thought I would share my thoughts:

1) Madahos
Very nice looking place inside with a range of women, mostly between 5-8 on the looks scale. None of them are too pushy. Didn't see one that floated my boat and had a good attitude that night so left after two beers.

Was pretty pissed that the second beer cost 25pesos after the woman at the door went out of her way to say the FIRST drink was mandatory and was 25pesos while the following ones would be normal price. Not a lot of money in terms of US dollars, but the attitude of trying to rip me off was a real turn off. I understand they want to make money, but there are plenty enough places to pick up women that at least try to be friendly making their money off of you and are up front about the whole deal.

The place seems pretty cool, but the attitude of the people working there (including some of the girls) really turned me off.

2) Solid Gold
Smallish type of place. Probably 25 girls and 10 guys. Decent stripper shows on stage. Best looking girls in the place were two bartenders.

Pricing was about the same as Madahos, but everyone was up front and friendly about the deal, so it made for a better atmosphere. Door man had lived in the US and spoke perfect English and a waitress spoke good English as well.

Women were 5-7 on looks and 150-200pesos was the going rate.

These places were good, but I had just come from Rio, so my bar was set pretty high upon arrival in Buenos Aires. Next time in Buenos Aires I will try some places outside of Recoleta. A good, friendly attitude goes a long way for me.

Meanwhile, thanks to Jackson for his services and for everyone's good advice on this site.

Jonny Hit Run
12-09-03, 03:03
The girls at Black are very hot but also expensive. Madaho for my money was a better setup, the staff was very accomodating the tunes were excellent and the rates far more reasonable. I met a blue eyed beauty named Melina who spent the night for $100.00 US. I forgot it was a service she's very cool and super sexy and very tight. Newport (the week of Thanksgiving anyway) lacked substance unless your keen to bad Karaoke. The few attractive ladies seemed to be wrapped up with Americans who didn't appear to be in any hurray to conduct commerce.

On the whole I would say to any readers of this column who are on the fence about BA, You gotta go! If they only had Termas.

Mad Max
12-09-03, 19:31
EZE Amate,

I totally agree with your assessment of Belen from Shampoo. Very affectionate. I have seen her several times and could get hooked if I am not careful. I love to wake up to her in the morning after an all nighter. She is always willing to perform again. It's a good thing my Spanish is bad and her English is non-existent. She seems to have a good time when we go out (KillKenny,etc.) but the language barrier is a problem. Oh well.

From the Thanksgiving party I ended up with a girl Erika an will see her again. (see pic) Great BBBJ without asking and she seemed willing to want to help me with my Spanish. Nice girl who stayed very late the next day (fine with me) for AR$200.

My normal hangout is Catto's (close to the hotel) and I have sampled many of the girls from there. Some memorable, some not.

From Hook only one little Dominican girl, but I have only visited there once.

From Newport I met a non-pro and her friend. I have her Email and will visit her when I go to Santiago, Chile.

That's all for now.

Mad Max out.

DownBA
12-09-03, 21:18
Jackson, yes it does appear that you've corrected the problem since I'm posting here again. THANKS!! DownBA

Party BMW
12-09-03, 23:35
Hey guys,

I was in BA in the begining of November and can't wait to get back in January 28th to 31st. I'm counting the days.

I am bringing a friend this time to party in BA.

Where is the best exchange rate at the airport or in Recoleta.

I see a lot of new faces on platynum.com any recommendations.

Has anyone seen a blonde in Black that looks like Cameron Diaz. I can't get a hold of her from the states.

BA is my fantasy island (continent for that mater).

See ya

DonRoberto
12-10-03, 14:22
I just got back from a died-and-gone-to-heaven visit to BA and other parts of the country. The women were better looking than before, and the sex really good in most cases (BBBJ was the order of the day). This was mainly a consequence of visiting the apartments at:

1707 Santa Fe (Floor 3). After being introduced to six drop-dead-gorgeous women and told that a half hour was only 60 pesos, I thought it had to be some kind of joke. But it wasn't, and I went with three beautiful chicas at different times, two of whom were quite uninhibited sexually (BBBJ). This place is unbelievable.

3221 Guemes (2A). You are shown about a half-dozen area-vip type photos in an album. I picked the petite blonde who turned out to be even better looking than her photo and great to be with. 70 pesos for half an hour.

1965 Corrientes (13B). A bit downmarket from above, but the girls were cute, and I had a good time with Tamara. The madam asked for what I thought was a gringo price of 80 pesos for a half hour. But it was well worth it.

975 Esmeralda (9E). The one chica there was a bit on the chubby side, but was quite pretty and sweet, and gave good "francesa sin globo". I can't remember her name, but if you are into a bit of chubbiness, you would like her.

I now think that BA cannot be beaten in terms of chicas' attractiveness, sexual prowess, and price. I have gotten used to being smothered with kisses, being told "que lindo", and "mi amore" by stunning women. I have no inclination to go anywhere else in the world.

I also got to see some other places in this amazingly beautiful country: Ushuaia, Peninsula Valdez, Barriloche, and Mendoza.

I encourage you all to get out of BA for awhile; the sights are amazing, the prices of tours reasonably, and the tour groups quite professional.

Mad Max
12-10-03, 17:57
Jackson,

I had a great time at the weekly meeting last night.

I think you need a new cameraman.

Dinner was excellent.

Newport was....well Newport.

Afairre was perfect (so was Alejandra) sorry Jackson for the Cock Block. (see attached pics)

Overall a great night.

Mad Max out.

Hi Mad Max,

It's cool. One of the great things about living here is that I get to tap everything you guys discover on your visits, after you leave!

Jackson

Novio
12-10-03, 21:47
Don Roberto,

I'm glad I'm not the only one who sings the praises of Tamara at 1965 Corrientes. She was definitely GFE with a bit of PSE (porn star experience?) the times I was with her in September.

Unless there's been serious inflation in a couple of months, you definitely paid the gringo price. Back then, it was 50 pesos/HOUR, and buying the hour let you have the use of one of their private suites -- much, much better than the little cubicle they put you in when the girls are introduced to you. Plus, it gave you the chance to have two pops if you were up to the occasion.

Saint
12-11-03, 01:38
Been a while since I've read the Buenos Aires section. It's good to see this section busy as ever. I'm kind of taking a break from South America having hit it way too many times in the past two years. Had a blast in Switzerland and Italy and headed to Cuba next week.

It's funny to read some of the past few posts because I've been with a lot of those girls. It's good to know they are still providing quality service. Buenos Aires is truly a special place. No where in the world quite like it.

It's also nice to see that so many have contributed to WSG Charities. I read many boards around the world and I always get a smile on my face when I see that someone has donated. Now that the holidays are approaching donate to your favorite charity if it's not WSG Charities. www.wsgcharities.com

I'm anxious to try out Cuba as I've wanted to go there for many years. I'm going to Amsterdam, Paris and Prague in May and that should be quite an experience. Happy Holidays all.

Saint

P.S. Zé Duron, I'll probably hit Portugal in the fall. I hear it has quite an active scene with many Brasileras. Would love to hear some detailed information from you since you live there.

Havanaman
12-11-03, 09:26
Gentlemen,

Please excuse my ignorance. A simple question: Is it better to telephone: 1707 Santa Fe ; 3221 Guemes ; 1965 Corrientes and 975 Esmeralda etc... before going? If so, I would appreciate the contact name / numbers.

Going to be arriving on the 18 Dec. and want to hit the road ASAP.

Thanks for all the exceptional information and advice. I promise to post back..

Regards, Havanaman

EZE_Amante
12-11-03, 12:20
Havanaman,

I don't think you really gain anything by calling first, except maybe to see how many girls are working or available. We just showed up in the afternoon, and there were usually at least a couple doable girls.

EZE :)

Dickhead
12-11-03, 13:25
The madam at 3221 Güemes (2A) WOULD like you to call first, as I have posted many, many, MANY times, including on this very same page a few days ago. She said she tries to keep people from running into each other. I don't know her name but I have posted the number multiple times. 4823-3150.

DonRoberto
12-11-03, 16:55
Havanaman,

I did not call first at any of the apartments, just tried to say as best I could in Spanish my name and desire to come in. None of the madams seemed to mind, though the one at 3221 Guemes did ask whether I had called first. It is immediately obvious to them that you are a foreigner, and this is probably reassuring in terms of robbery, etc. An exception is 2254 French, where she basically told me to get lost.

My big splurge this last visit was to let my driver, Oscar (15-4960-3770), the guy who drives for Art Suites, fix me up with "Carolina"
a vivacious brunette who provides a great hour for $60 USD. She has lived in the US, speaks some English, and for the $60 makes you feel like a million bucks. I strongly recommend her.

OttoGraham
12-11-03, 17:41
It has been reported here that 2254 French is closed, which is a shame, because I have fond memories of the place.

The new tenant is probably sick and tired of all the unannounced visitors he/she is getting. :D

-Uncle Otto

Jackson
12-12-03, 00:03
MEETING NOTICE

The weekly meeting of the AMA (Argentina Mongers Association) will be held NEXT Tuesday (December 16th) at 10:00 pm, at my apartment in Recoleta.

The Agenda:

1. Reviewing the latest chica nude casting videos.

BTW: Last week I had a chica over to be video taped and photographed who, as it turns out, is one of the strippers at Cattos on Mon, Tue and Wed. She was so hot that after the session, I asked her to stay on for an hour of more interesting inter-personal action. Only 150ar, large natural tits and one of the tightest pussys I've experienced. The best part: Now that I know her, she told me that I can take her out of Cattos any time for the same price.

Anyway, the video of her stripping and running around my apartment is very good. I actually had to stop her from waiving at the people in the street, in the nude, from my window.

Damn, my life is rough.

2. Steak dinner at nearby restaurant of everyone's choosing.

3. Nighttime assault on Buenos Aires's bars, boliches, clubs and cafes.

All mongers are invited to participate.

Please email me at jackson@argentianprivate.com (jackson@argentinaprivate.com?subject=Weekly AMA Meeting)

Thanks,

Jackson

Jackson
12-12-03, 00:18
Gee, I guess that since I have a signed release from her authorizing me to publish her photographs, there's no reason for me not to share them with you.

Gentlemen, this is Romina.

You can see the rest of the photos and the video at the AMA Meeting. Perhaps afterwards we might all decide to go to Cattos.

Jackson

Dashing Don
12-12-03, 03:49
Belatedly, I'm reporting on my five-day visit over the Thanksgiving period and although I have little to add in terms of new places to hobby, I was amazed at how Jackson has conquered the mongering scene in BA.

From the Clarin experiments in which every girl is documented from physique to technique; to the 'private' web site which gives information on all known casas, clubs and boliches; to the the constant scouring of the clubs for new nooky, it becomes obvious that sooner or later, a girl will become part of Jackson's datebase. An amazing feat!!

Purely anecdotally, I successfully managed to call Clarin and have a girl come over. Very tall, very fat, and 37 yo. Barely managed a blow job. Cost: 50 plus 20 for the cab. She was pleasant so I gave her 100, and breathed a sigh of relief when she left.

At the Clarin experiment I had great sex with Eleana, a late thirtiesh Paraguayan and repeated with her on my last day at her apartment. She told me that she is on gemidos.com, but as I never bother with websites, I don't know if thats true.

Met up with b69 and Slick1 and visited Nuevo Estilo. Isn't it true that the other guy's girl always looks better. b69's girl was stunning and I don't use the term lightly, especially as I seldom lay down with caucasian females. But his girl's tasteful attire and beautiful skin, hair and face was something to behold. That's over now of course, what with b69's anal explorations and general depravity. Probably the poor girl is now wearing a burkha.

The Buenos Aires Herald raved about a new French restaurant in Recoleta on Rodriguez Pena, Le Coq or something like that. Went with a portena friend. Beautiful space and fine French food. With a bottle of Argentine Cabernet, it came to 103 pesos: a great deal.

The Thanksgiving dinner had over forty mongers in attendance; ample proof of the burgeoning popularity of BA as a monger destination. It had the feeling of a convention. Due to the hit-or-miss distribution of the food, I repaired to McDonalds nearby to round off the meal.

I expect this doesn't help much,

Don

Jaimito Cartero
12-12-03, 13:43
Wow, that Romina is a nice looking package! Jackson always gets the nicest ones! Hopefully he won't turn her into girlfriend #3 before I get to BA again.

MeGustaBoliches
12-12-03, 14:11
I have been spending more time with Argentine friends than with Yanquis ....a different kind of experience for me.....Last night my two friends took me to a dinner club in costanera, not far from Clo Clos...the place was dead when we arrived at 10:30...and jumping when we left at one am.....I have eaten more midnight suppers this trip than previously...

The name of the club was Tequila....dancing starts about 1, and dinner can be ordered from a limited, though outstanding menu.....dinner for the three of us came to 150pesos, with appetizers, wine, main courses and a shared dessert.....


We hit Nuevo Estilo about 2, and the place was packed with men....very few chicas....so I took them to Madahos...where I ran into an amiga or two from previous trips....lots of girls at 2 in the morning...we left about 3 and the selection was still outstanding.....Emily selected my friend and told him her life story, including her infatuation for Saint (heartbreaker that he is)......

OttoGraham
12-12-03, 14:21
Originally posted by Jackson

Gee, I guess that since I have a signed release from her authorizing me to publish her photographs, there's no reason for me not to share them with you.

Gentlemen, this is Romina.

You can see the rest of the photos and the video at the AMA Meeting. Perhaps afterwards we might all decide to go to Cattos.

Jackson

Photograph: romina.jpg
This image has been viewed 247 time(s).Bastard! :mad: :jealous: :jealous:

-Uncle Otto

Tikos
12-12-03, 16:57
Gee, I guess that since I have a signed release from her authorizing me to publish her photographs, there's no reason for me not to share them with you.

Gentlemen, this is Romina.

You can see the rest of the photos and the video at the AMA Meeting. Perhaps afterwards we might all decide to go to Cattos.

Jackson

Photograph: romina.jpg
This image has been viewed 306 time(s).Just wondering if she is in some webpage to make contact or maybe you want to share some contact. If don't, thanks anyway.

Saludos

It's possible that I may add her to the private site. Stay tuned.

Jackson

B69
12-12-03, 17:09
Oh Dashing One,

Yes, Celeste has since become a nun and retired !!!
She turned to be an amazing experience!

I am surprised that no one has posted about the 2nd Clarin event. Come on! El Ricardo! Dboy! Jackster! Captain Dave! Andres! All of you had a good share!!
I guess I will have no choice but to report on it soon!!

Saint
12-12-03, 17:17
Damn Jackson. Nice life. Life is rough huh? Ha, ha. Thanks for sharing the picture of your new gem. I hope everyone has a very happy holidays.

Saint

oldguy
12-12-03, 19:00
Returning to Buenos Aires after an absence of a year, I was sorry to hear about the demise of the place on French. I have day time business meetings to attend, so the late night clubs just don't work for me. However, I did have the old phone number from French, so I gave it a call, only to get a recorded message that the number had CHANGED, not that it had been cancelled. I called the new number, went to the new place, and had very nice, if not exception 90 minutes with Mary Anne. Mary Anne is 32, looks 26, and quite petite. It was a very nice GFE, welcome to Bs As time. I'd pass on the new address, but they're planning on moving again, probably by next week, down to the Centro. What I will pass on is the cell phone number: 15-5041-8415. Let's keep them in business for all the old farts who can't stay up late at night.

The following day, I dropped by 1707 Santa Fe without an appointment. That didn't seem to matter--the madam (didn't catch her name) sent five, yes, five young things into my room, one by one. Four of the five simply left me stammering and drooling. Damn, next time I'm taking a notepad--by the time the fifth one passed me by, I couldn't remember a single name. Hell, I couldn't have told you my name by then. Anyway, number four was an exotic beauty with the face of a model. Turned out, she is half Egyptian and half English, and she really got the best of both gene pools. She had a simply incredible face that could be on the front of any fashion magazine. I had a great massage, the best CBJ I've ever had (I know that's something of an oxymoron), and some mighty fine sex. Anyway, she and 1707 were a great find, and, to quote somebody, I shall return. BTW, I'd probably phone in advance the next time. The land line is 4816-1490/8926 and the cell is 15-4028-7804.

After two short days, I have more work to do in Chile, so shift forums if you're interested.

Dancesw/Chicas
12-12-03, 19:16
Megustaboliches,

The club you mentioned Tequila, is suppsed to be a very fashionable place. What do you think? Did you see any girls of the model type?

I was there twice in 2002 and it was not that all, in my opinion.

Amantelondres,

Ingles, I looked at platynum and Alanise is almost identical to Wendy! just like you said.

Onetreehill,

Guess who's in the areavip website? Angeles! I think she is there with another name. Anyway I really want to do this chica and I am affraid she won't be in that place for my next trip in March. So let me tell what I did, I called her to try to find out an email address or something so that if I arrived in march and she's done with guemes at least I 'll have a way to reach her. So the Madam asked if I know her and I sense a yes will be the best anwer, she put me on hold and the next voice sounded so sweet it could only come from a lolita.

She asked who's this? and I said a friend of mine recommended her, you went to his hotel I said. she has not clue and said she goes to so many hotels. In spanish I told her that my friend licked her ass and gave to her like an ancient greek soldier. She responded "everybody do me like that!

I am affraid with this type of regime there will be nothing left when I arrived. Lucky you.

MeGustaBoliches
12-12-03, 20:37
Dances,

Some of the hottest women on earth hang out in Tequila...try it on a Wed. night...and don´t bother before 1AM....unless you want to go earlier and get a table for dinner.....The place can get loud and it is hard to get in as it gets later....the doorman screens people carefully....Several of the girls I saw were tall, model thin and with model looks....late teens to late 20s.....The guys I went with are from wealthier families and know where to look for women....this is one of their favorite spots....

GoGetEm
12-13-03, 18:31
Gee, I guess that since I have a signed release from her authorizing me to publish her photographs, there's no reason for me not to share them with you.

Gentlemen, this is Romina.

You can see the rest of the photos and the video at the AMA Meeting. Perhaps afterwards we might all decide to go to Cattos.

Jackson

Photograph: romina.jpg
This image has been viewed 561 time(s).

Now thats a beauty. Nice find Jackson.

MagicHat
12-14-03, 20:06
TRIP REPORT DEC 4-8

I’m writing this from grim and freezing northeastern US, where there’s a blizzard outside and 8 inches of snow. Spring in Buenos Aires feels so very far away and it’s hard to believe that I was there less than a week ago. I wish I was there now, especially as Boca just won the Toyota Cup so half the city is probably partying like crazy.

On the Dickhead-OttoGraham spectrum of mongering, I’m probably more of a Dickhead (though I wouldn’t claim to be in the same mongering league as either, this being only my 2nd trip), so in this report I’m not going to bother to cover the Recoleta/microcentro clubs as they are exhaustively dealt with elsewhere. I was only in BA for 5 days so I was only able to see a brief snapshot of what is available. I also made a side trip to Paraguay….I will post my trip report in the Asuncion section shortly. I left my goddamn notes for the whole trip in Paraguay so some of the prices in this report, particularly of the clubs in Flores are from memory.

So to the chicas. All prices are in pesos.


INTERNET GIRLS
I found this pretty disappointing. Virtually none of the girls looked the same as their photos from what I could see. I wasn’t in BA for long so only had time for a couple of places and maybe I was just unlucky here but take Sabrina….Esmeralda 973 1c. Which turns out to be an apartment that others have written about. On sensualbaires Sabrina is a goddess, in real life she’s just a little bit skuzzy. 100 pesos for the hour, she wanted an extra 50 for anal but I talked her down to 30. Towards the end I started making jokes about the difference between her photos and her and she burst out laughing. I came on her tits and wouldn’t repeat.

Ligia
She was pretty nice and could at least have been the same girl as the photos. Paraguay 2086 2nda C, I think. She was a bit professional and cold at 100 pesos an hour, not really GFE.

Next time I think I will use Roxanna for internet girls and weed out the dross. That has to be worth the extra $10.

CLARIN GIRLS
Although the internet girls and Clarin girls are pretty much intermingled, I had better luck with the clarin girls overall certainly on a value for money basis. My first experience was a total nightmare however…
“Anita 23a – totalmente depiladadita” – Avenida Callao 521 1st floor. 4373 1351. There was only one bell and you had to go through an electric door. Warning signs. I left the door ajar. Then through another door which I also didn’t completely close. They took me to a room and brought in the girl….30, track marks. I said no, she went out and told me to wait. I could hear them talking. Then I heard a guy…time to leave. Slipped out and they heard me and started following….I could hear their shouts of frustration when they realized I’d left the door ajar and got out. What a relief to be back on Callao. Going to the low end of the market, you risk these things happening. Always be on high alert when going into strange buildings.
Second port of call was a much better experience; Evelin, and I think the address is Viamonte 1646, Apartamento 6 baja, but I lost my damn notes. Anyway I have Clarin and the number is 4372 8510. Its safe going in. During the day there’s a security guard. I went to this place three times. Both times they only had 1 girl (but it was a holiday week end so all the departamientos were slow or closed) but 2 out of 3 of these girls were definitely doable...especially at 20 pesos/30 mins, 40 pesos/hr.
I particularly liked Evelin, a dozy voluptuous friendly girl in her early 20s with long hair and great in bed. The 2nd girl was nice, had a pretty face, long dark hair and wouldn’t take her Dr Martin boots off which was funny and just a little bit kinky. The third girl was a dog, which was a shame as that was my last day.
I liked getting up in the morning and strolling down from my hotel in Barrio Norte to give these girls a morning pop.

DEPARTAMIENTOS
I only had time for 2 of these. Because it was a holiday week end, very few girls were working but still both my experiences were good.

Corrientes 1965 P13 A 4954 0230
Three girls working, 2 were dogs so I took Natalia, a blonde who had a decent body but not much of a face, 40 pesos/30 mins. An hour is 80 pesos I think. She was very willing and good in the sack. For some reason, I’m not sure why as I hardly look like Brad Pitt and I doubt my skills are that amazing, this one seemed to really enjoy the sex. I obviously figured she was faking but then she kept telling me how great it was and then went and dashed off and came back with a card with her name and asked me to call her. By this point I’d been with 11 girls in 5 days and was pleased just to do the business so it was a little odd, but a nice boost to the confidence nonetheless.


SANTA FE 1707, 3rd floor. 4816 1490
I liked this place a lot. Its unbelievably good value at 60 pesos/30mins, 80/45 100/hr. A cut above the other departamientos that I went to definitely. And literally 3 minutes walk from my hotel. Again, much reduced selection because it was a holiday week end but I appreciated the professionalism of the place. I cant even remember the girls name that I went with but she was a 7 or an 8, and from Venezuela and very sweet. Gorgeous body, curvy, slim, nice tits. I was completely frazzled by lack of sleep and 5 days of continuous partying/touristing/mongering by this point and she worked hard for my leche and earnt every peso, good attitude.


STREETWALKERS
I checked out 2 areas….Plaza Misiere/Once, and Constitution.

Plaza Misiere. Complete write off. There were 2 50yr old hags, the first time, and nobody the second time. Not worth bothering with.

Constitution.
Much more presence in the way of SW. The most potential that I could see were the blocks around Avenida Juan de Garay to the left of the station. This is NOT an area to be in at night. There were several girls hanging out on the street here…some looked Dominican. There were a couple I might consider in a pinch but there is so much quality and variety in BA that unless you are a die hard SW fan, there is no need to bother with this in BA. If you do like SW, go to Asuncion, you’ll love it.



A NIGHT OUT IN FLORES

From reading Andres posts, I wanted to visit Flores. I was a bit worried that it might be a little dangerous, but it sounded like an interesting area so I decided to make the trip. Its 10-12 pesos one way from Recoleta.
Flores rocked. Not sure what its like normally as I went there during a ‘feriado’ or holiday week end (Saturday night), but instead of being worried about being picked off and mugged because nobody would be about, I was more in danger of being trampled by the number of people on the street. The main area is about 7 blocks along Rivadavia around Rivadavia 7500 and on the Saturday night there must have been at least 2,000 people out partying…that’s no exaggeration as I counted 5 open discotecas so it was probably more. Of course that meant that there were hundreds of cute argentine girls out on the street….this would be a good place I think to meet non-pros, though you’d need to speak Spanish. I tried, with no success sadly. Off the main streets, there were a lot less people so stay on the main streets where the people are….now trouble can happen anywhere and though I didn’t get the feel of this area being that dodgy, don’t take any risks. But overall I’d say it had the vibe of being a good solid working class/lower middle class area, without the elitism maybe of Recoleta or barrio norte, just normal people out for a good time. I thought it was an excellent night out and would definitely return.

I didn’t see any SW.
The mongering clubs are all located 10-15 yards off the main streets, so as to be slightly inconspicuous.

I went to;

Envidia.
Its off the Rivadavia 7500 block…I think the actual street is Arguerich.
5 pesos entry, with 1 drink.
Drinks for the chicas 20 pesos
Rooms on premises….40 for 30 mins, 80 for 1 hour.

You enter and there’s a long bar on the left of a rectangular room. Immediately to your left when you go in is a pool table. You sit at the bar or at tables. At the far end of the room is a stage where sometimes a chica does a striptease. As with all these places, it’s hit and miss. There were 4 chicas I would have done, out of about 25. From time to time a chica will hit on you but they are not pushy. The girl I wanted was with a group of lads so I didn’t try anyone here. The downside of it being a feriado was all too evident later on in the evening as this place filled up with noisy young kids….I think Andres called them pests in a previous post and I know how he felt.

La Fuente
Located in calle La Fuente just off Rivadavia 7300 block.
10 pesos to get in, with 2 drinks.
Drinks for the chicas 15 or 20 pesos, cant remember
There’s an albergue transitorio next door – 40 pesos/30 mins, 80 pesos/1hr
You pay the bouncer and go up some steps, past a couple of open doors and through a 1-way mirror door. Straight in front is a bar, to the left some tables and chairs, to the right a space and then a lounge area. It’s quite small. The girls all wear a schoolgirl uniform which is quite sweet…and they seemed young. Nothing illegal, but definitely late teens/early 20s rather than the early/mid/late 20s that you normally see in the clubs. Maybe the schoolgirl outfits make them look younger. There were approx 10 girls in there, 2-3 I would do. The others were friendly and not hardened. You can buy them a drink and feel them up, all quite fun. They did try one trick I didn’t like. When I spoke to the bouncer….he told me the prices included the room. Upstairs, they tried to charge me an extra 15 pesos. Soon sorted that one out. I went for 30mins, chica was very sweet, a fun experience. Otherwise I liked this place.

Camroon
Avenida Alberdi 2800 block, cross street is Avenida San Pedrito. Avenida Alberdi runs parallel to Rivadavia, 2 blocks to the south.
6 pesos entry with one drink.
Drinks for the chicas – 20 pesos I think
I’m guessing here…think it was 40pesos/30mins, 70 pesos/hr
You pay the bouncer and go in and sit down. The bar is on your right when you go in, to the left is a raised area with tables. Then a chica brings your drink and change and sits down with you and explains the prices. This is where I regret losing my notes. I thought this place had real potential, but I went there early in the evening when it had just opened, and meant to go back but have any more leche after seeing the chica at La Fuente and was drunk and anyway had to get back to Palermo to see John Digweed dj (superb as usual). There were 15 plus girls in there and 5 of them I would do. The one who bought me my drink was a 7, she could have worked in Madahos. In fact I asked her why she wasn’t which she liked. I cant would definitely go back to this place and I wish I had done the girl who bought me my drink…tall, slim, morocha, spinner, nice smile, good attitude. I regret that. If you’re in the area….check it out and let us know what you think.

Liza Café Pool
Avenida Directorio 2800 block, cross street is Avenida San Pedrito. Avenida Directorio is also parallel to Rivadavia, 4 blocks to the south.
It’s confusing because there’s an old, closed version of this across the street, but the new one is on the 2800 block.
I walked into this place without paying, and walked straight out. 10 girls in there, none of which I would do. I got a flyer saying “Arancel $20” whatever that means (Andres?). I wouldn’t say it’s a dump but didn’t see anything worth bothering with either.

Overall I would say that Flores can’t compare overall with the quality of the Recoleta and Microcentro clubs, but a night out there is definitely worthwhile and makes a nice change. The girls seemed a lot friendlier, and it’s cheaper too.


TIPS TO INEXPERIENCED MONGERS
This was only my second ever mongering trip and here are a couple of things that I learned that I hope will help you;

1. Read the board. There’s SO much excellent information in these pages.
2. Paying – when negotiating in the Recoleta clubs, don’t ask them what to pay, tell them what you are willing to pay. At the very least you set the framework for the negotiation, dollars are off the table, the girl knows you aren’t completely clueless, and you can negotiate time/money/services tradeoffs around that. I found this tactic very successful.
3.Internet girls/Clarin girls – this is a good tip from Dickhead – Google the phone numbers of the internet girls. If they are also in Clarin, you should be able to get them cheaper.
4.If you are in a club and a chica you fancy is free, get her. There are few things more frustrating than ogling a stunner for 10 mins and wondering whether to approach her and then see her disappear off with another bloke.


Overall I have to say that this was a great trip. Argentina in general and Buenos Aires in particular are fantastic places. I just wish I could get down more frequently. I’d like to thank the many contributors to this board who inspired me to come to Argentina…there are many of you but in particular Saint, Andres and Dickhead.

Finally, I’d like to thank Jackson, both for running this excellent website, and for sorting me out with a dentist at very short notice which as you can imagine made a big difference to the quality of my trip. I’m sorry I didn’t meet you Jackson, but will certainly get in touch the next time I am in BA.

Magic Hat.

MoonDog
12-15-03, 01:19
Magic Hat,

You stated


[INTERNET GIRLS
I found this pretty disappointing. Virtually none of the girls looked the same as their photos from what I could see. I wasn’t in BA for long so only had time for a couple of places and maybe I was just unlucky here but take Sabrina….Esmeralda 973 1c. Which turns out to be an apartment that others have written about. On sensualbaires Sabrina is a goddess, in real life she’s just a little bit skuzzy.]Internet Girls 101: The only internet site that you can trust in BA for 100% wysiwyg is www.escorts-argentina.com and the Spanish version of www.escortsbaires.com.ar. These girls are known personaly to the owners, and they are very classy girls, ones that you could be proud of walking into a restaurant or a business dinner. They know how to dress and act, and are a lot of fun as well. Yes their fees are a bit higher, but well worth it if you want a good looking babe on your arm.

Another site is Jackson's www.argentinaprivate.com. Go to the Chica Recommendations on that page.

www.area-vip.com.ar is another site that is fairly accurate, but many of the photos are air brushed heavily to make the girls look better than they actually are. Some of the girls are quite nice though.

Roxana can help you with any of these girls.

You can have fun at the bottom of the barrel, but do not expect the best to be waiting there for you. :)

Better luck next time, and looking forward to your report on Asuncion.

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

Andres
12-15-03, 01:24
Magic hat:

Good report!

"Arancel" means "fee" (or "price").

Andres

Mad Max
12-15-03, 03:53
Jackson,

Had Alejandra net?

See you Tuesday night,

Randy out.

Hi Mad,

She only works Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday nights, and Monday and Wednesday nights I have regular dates with girlfriends, so Tuesday is my only option. However, Tuesday is the AMA meeting, so I'm planning to move fast this time so I don't get cock-blocked.

Ha Ha.

Jackson

Jaimito Cartero
12-15-03, 09:02
MH - Very nice report. You did more in 4 or 5 days than I'd do in a month, I think. Roxana might be able to help on booking, but I don't think she could sort out the flakes for you, unless they're real obvious. Usually it's just a, "Tell me which girl you want", or "Tell me what type of girl you want".

Hi Jaimito,

Roxana also has some knowledge of some of the girls past performances from the feedback that she receives from other guys.

Jackson

OttoGraham
12-15-03, 11:45
Originally posted by Magic Hat

Next time I think I will use Roxanna for internet girls and weed out the dross. That has to be worth the extra $10.

I found this nugget of sound advice found within Magic Hat's excellent, comprehensive report. It bears repeating a second time!

-Uncle Otto

MagicHat
12-16-03, 04:55
Thank you to you all for your comments.

Moon Dog - thanks for the advice. I was aware that the internet chicas resemblence to their photos was hit and miss...but I only had a few days and wanted to at least go for the girls that I fancied the most from their pictures and was hoping that I'd get lucky. Unfortunately I missed. The girls on escortsargentina didnt really do it for me, but I'll certainly check them out again before my next trip. I think I'd definitely try Roxana though as she seems to get good results from the feedback on this board and it would just cut out alot of the hassle.

Jaime Cartero - It was pretty mad. Next time I'm going to try and spend at least a week in BA and do it in a bit more relaxed fashion, as after BA and then Asuncion I came home needing a holiday. The BA nightlife in particular is a killer because it all happens so late. If you also try and do touristy stuff in the day and then try some of of the normal bars/clubs you end up with sleep deprivation after 4/5 days. Not sure theres any way round that, but at least with a bit more time I might not feel so pressurised; I really left BA completely exhausted. Of course now I'm stuck in NYC and I'd pay good money to be in BA for the night instead of dealing with stuck up American girls who all seem to be following the Rules. They think they're so clever but they are so stupid.

Andres - I hope you are still in BA the next time I make it down as it would be an honour to spend an evening with you checking out some of the more out of the way boliches. Drinks on me.

Magic Hat.

Dancesw/Chicas
12-16-03, 06:11
Magic hat,

Very nice report.

Is impossible to cover BA 24/7. It will be so great...when in BA who wants to waste time sleeping.

Some people monger mostly during the day at the cafes, apartments and using the internet. This monger should be tired by 2-3 am.

There are also guys who go out at night, meeting at Etoile lobby around 9pm for example for the all night BA circuit.

Most newcomers to BA ten to stay awake until they hit the wall and that can take 2-3 days as a norm.

It does not matter how you do it, BA rules!

DWC

Exon123
12-16-03, 18:21
Exon Reporting : --- OK Jackson is right --- One must be carefull with your Amor --- Thease girls get jellious --- Heres my confession --- Remmember the SW I threw out of my apartmento, well like the dumb shit that I am --- Well I didn't clean up after myself --- I had been missing in action for for about a day or so and I called Carolina for a date the next night --- She arrived right on time looking like a million bucks in cash --- Simply Gorgeous --- But with a very questionable look on her face --- Where have you been she asks, "any other Chica's" --- Well of course I lied just like Bill Clinton or any body else for that matter --- Of course not I reply, Im in love with you, your my Amor --- I don't need another woman, your all I need or want --- By now Ive got her cloths off and have a woodie like you can't believe --- She's not buying it and begins to look around --- Amazing how a woman can sense another woman --- And their it is laying on the night stand, a used condom wrapper and a fresh new one --- Carolina goes ape shit --- And what can I say, shes caught me in a dead ass lie and here we are both naked and me with wood --- Its good that I don't speak Spanish but I new what she was saying --- Im trapped theres no way out of this --- Next she takes the new condom on the night stand and starts put it on me and at the same time " says this is are last time" --- There will be no kissing, you get a covered blow job and Im going to leave afterward --- Carolina does not give covered bolw jobs --- Well what did I do ? --- I pulled a 100 pesos out and gave it to her, put my cloths back on and walked her to the door saying Im sorry --- But the good thing is the next day I wrote her an Amor e-mail with the help of my translator and she called me that night and things returned to normal --- The advise and moral to this true story is to keep your special Chica a part from the others and don't leave used condom wrapper around in your apartment ----- Exon

DonRoberto
12-16-03, 18:26
I wanted to say something else about Buenos Aires
that is important. It is more than just beautiful women
at giveaway prices. Practically all the women I was with
last visit were sweet, friendly, and even affectionate, and
went out of their way to make me relax (You're not
treated like some gringo asshole to be gotten rid of ASAP).
Thus, any performance anxiety issues you may have brought
with you fade, and you can turn in a solid performance
that add immeasurably to the experience. In some of
my visits I would "time out" with the madam's knock on
the door. In the US, women are often not that friendly,
I am often nervous, and a bit of a short hitter at times.
In Baires it is all different.

OttoGraham
12-16-03, 18:44
Exon, looks like you're back in Buenos Aires!

For how long?

Depending on the NFL playoffs, I may make an early January run down there.

Which leads me to an announcement for the visiting mongers: United Airlines is running a "triple miles" promotion for the first quarter of 2004 - travel 10,000 miles on United in January, and all subsequent flights until March 31 will net you triple miles. Of course there is some fine print. But as some of you may know, most locations in the U.S. are about 10,000 miles from Buenos Aires, round trip.

Details can be found here (http://www.united.com/page/article/0,1360,50661,00.html?code=&jumpLink=%2Foffer%2Fmpw004).

This is a great deal, and I hope many of you will take advantage of it.

-Uncle Otto

ChicagoBoy23
12-16-03, 20:33
Arghhh - I am platinum executive on American. I can't fly United........Life is so unfair :(

MoonDog
12-17-03, 01:52
Exon,

Great story. Thanks for sharing.

Moondog

Dickhead
12-17-03, 02:08
A good girl is one who asks whether you want the condoms en el inodoro o en el cesto, puts the empty wrappers in her purse or pocket, washes all the glasses and puts them away, and otherwise removes all evidence that a woman has been there. Furthermore a good girl heads right for the closet when another chica knocks on the door. I happen to know just such a woman in Buenos Aires and I told Exon where to find her, at his request. But, it looks like he has the situation under control.

Mad Max
12-17-03, 05:53
Exon123,

Boy you speak the truth.

Lipskick on the glass or makeup on a used towel are the traits of a monger for sure. (I'm sure there are none lurking here)

Life is too short to make too many of them mad.

Mad Max out.

Jackson
12-17-03, 12:43
Exon,

Condom wappers? Better add:

1. Glasses in the sink.
2. Smudged ashtrays, or cigarette butts in the trash can.
3. Hairs in your hair brush (or anywhere else).
4. A questionably high number of used towels.
5. Errant pieces of cheap jewelry or hair bands.
6. Telephone numbers and/or email addresses written on random pieces of paper, with or without a female name.
7. Business cards or receipts from clubs and boliches.
8. Any suspicious "discolorations" on any piece of fabric anywhere on the premises.
9. And anything in your trash cans.

Hell, Exon, you've got it easy. My #1 chica is a fucking detective. The funny thing is that she knows that I see other chicas on the nights I don't see her, and she also knows that all she needs to do is ask and I'll tell her the details at any time. Since she and I already know what's going on, my quess is that her strategy is intended only to remind me that she doesn't want it rubbed in her face. How typically Argentine.

I think you handled it correctly: Threatened reductions in service should always be met with an immediate elimination of compensation. In other words, stiff dick or not, show them the door. Of course, I would only have given them taxi money, and even that's really too generous for any situation except with a girlfriend.

BTW, I've only had to effect this tactic myself on rare occassions, but I'm always humored at the look on the chica's face when she realizes that I'm actually going to terminate the session regardless of my obvious physical display of desire. It's priceless!

Jackson

Dickhead
12-17-03, 14:01
Jackson writes:

"Since she and I already know what's going on, my quess is that her strategy is intended only to remind me that she doesn't want it rubbed in her face. How typically Argentine."

That was my experience exactly when I was living with my amigovia down there. Except, she wanted me NOT to flush the condoms so she could have proof I was using them with the other chicas! Pretty weird. So I'd flush 80% and leave 20% in the trash can and she thought I was only screwing around once in a while instead of constantly. Also we had twin beds and she told me I'd better not screw anyone in her bed and she would sniff the sheets to check. I never did, but only because mine had the firm mattress and hers the soft one. Otherwise, if I'm paying the rent I'll screw wherever I want.

Cigarette butts not an issue. Don't allow it in the apartment. Glasses not an issue. All dishes done. Towels not an issue as she showered at home before coming over. PK if you are reading this she didn't shower afterwards. Ha ha. Hair bands, got busted for that. Cheap jewelry, she didn't wear any. Phone numbers and bolichche cards, kept my shit together on that (everything in my pockets at all times) until I moved out and then left them all behind. Amigovia was calling all the numbers and asking them if they knew El Toro Rojo. Discolorations on the fabric, not a problem. Place was a dump so everything was well pre-stained. Being a cheap ass Dickhead has its advantages.

Surprisingly perhaps, I'm pretty sure the amigovia never went through my wallet or pockets although I left her little opportunity to do so.

The amigovia is history but I can't wait to get back. Towards the end I DID start rubbing her face in it a little bit, and I feel sort of bad about that.

MoonDog
12-17-03, 14:26
Jackson said:


BTW, I've only had to effect this tactic myself on rare occassions, but I'm always humored at the look on the chica's face when she realizes that I'm actually going to terminate the session regardless of my obvious physical display of desire. It's priceless!

This is great. Love it. Reminds me of the time I took out one of the Platynum girls. After somewhat boring foreplay at dinner with a lot of friends one night, we returned to the hotel. She got on the phone for about 45 minutes, then demanded $1100 U.S. for the 11 hours that she was going to spend with me. I gave her taxi fare and said adios.

The look on her face was priceless. About 10 mintes after she left, I headed out to Madahos and found a much better replacement.

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

Exon123
12-17-03, 15:55
Exon Reporting : --- Thanks Jackson & the rest of you Mongers for your comments --- But this subject is a serious one --- If you find a KEEPER just make damn sure you cover your tracks when you start messing around, and we all do, thats what makes us all world class Mongers --- Clean Your Apartment Before Your Especial Chica Arrives --- Well to continue the story, and as Jackson put it, There I was in my in my "obvious physical desire" I reached in my pocket and handed Carolina a $100 pecos and walked her to the front door --- adios --- Now Ive got wood and Ive got to do something about it --- So I hail a taxi and head for downtown --- I check Hooks & Catto's, nothing --- Next a long shot cause its getting late, Cafe Orleans again nothing --- Then a stroke of Brilliance --- Why not Cafe Exedra --- Well why the hell not -- So I walk the five blocks up Cordaba and into " Exedra" I go --- Its not long before I start making eye contact with a blond Chica about 5' 6" with a perfect shape by the name of "Angela" --- Now for those of you who have not had the pleasure of a trip to Cafe Exedra its a coffee shop with a bar on the cornner of Cordaba and Avenue 9th of July, the widest street in the world --- Anyway Im sitting on a bar stool and finally after much flirting I invite Angela over to sit on the bar stool next to me --- Now Angela is not one of those little cuite pie's would find at Madahos --- Angela is a full grown woman of I'd say close to 40. but with a perfect body and and even better personalty --- A truly nice person that speaks exceptable english --- Now were sitting there on bar stools and I reach down and spread her legs, ( shes wearing skin tight jeans), and lean over whispering in her ear " I'd like to put my Cock in their" --- Angela replys "300 pecos LTN" --- Sold I reply and we jump in a cab for my place --- And then commences probably the best session I had on my trip --- A true Fuck Fest --- We fucked in chairs, we fucked on the sopha, we fucked standing up, we fucked lieing down, on counter tops, we fucked in every possiable possition using the entire apartment and all its furniture as back drops and props --- OK so we go to sleep and of course I wake up the next morning with wood and Angela really finish's me off with the best bbbjwcim Ive ever had --- What a Gal --- And theres more but for today --- Exon --- P.S. --- No OttoGraham Im back in the USA plotting my return and soon --- Exon

One of these days, I'm going to show Exon how to use the period key.

Jackson

Stormy
12-17-03, 15:58
Report on the 2nd Clarin Event in November

This is but one perspective on the event; B69 has encouraged reporting on this so maybe this will get things started. The idea of the event is to call girls advertising in the Clarin paper to come over and spend an hour with 8-10 mogers. They would receive their fees ranging from 40 pesos to 100 pesos and taxi fare even if not requested to provide services. If services were requested more than one time, they would be paid additionally. The apartment, generously provided by B69 and Slick1, had a number of bedrooms. Besides getting a bunch of guys laid, there was a additional purpose; the girls were interviewed and photographed to see if they would be interested in participàting in a web site.

The main purpose was to see what kind of talent was available from Clarin. Every effort was made to screen out duplicate numbers. The mongers pooled money and Captain Davey was controller of the currency.

It was very interesting. About thirty girls eventually showed up in small groups and individually. The idea was to stagger arrivals so there would not be traffic jams in the bedrooms. They came in waves like marines hitting the beach. Food and drink were provided. The girls were both apprehensive and curious about it all. A few, three or four, were out of the question and were paid and left immediately. A few did not get done, but most did and some board members were conscientious that no pesos go to waste. Some, I thought, were quite nice and I would see them any time.

I did Elly, who came in at forty pesos. She was petite, about 30, and had a mediocre boob job, but was very nice and fun in bed for about 30 minutes. I wouldn´t do her again, but I had to satisfy my curiousity about a 40 peso deal, and it was fine. I also did Mayra, who was a cute blond who was just sitting there and had only 20 minutes left on her dance card. She was there for 80 pesos and was excellent and lively and suggested an anal finish that was superb. I would see her again. Another monger and I also noticed two women sitting by themselves for quite a while and on questioning said they were there to do a lesbian act but no one had asked yet, so he and I took them back to one of the bedrooms and they put on an excellent show, permitting photos.
We asked the other mongers if they wanted to watch and one prominent one was heard to mutter "I'd rather watch two dogs lick each other. " Others did poke their heads around the corner to see what was going on. We didn´t have sex with them, just some light touching and watching in the voyeur manner. They said they were bi-sexual and would welcome a show and just about any kind of sex we wanted. I would think one lesbian show should be a mainstay of any good Clarin party.

There was a tendency of the mongers to wait to see who would show up and no particular order to the process of who got whom, but it seemed to work pretty well. I had to run an errand and left the apartment and jumped in a taxi that had just been vacated by three girls on their way into the apartment . The taxi driver was absolutely bug-eyed and talking to me wildly, pointing to the building. I shook my head and said "What a shame!" and directed him to take me to my bank. (I thought I might need some more cash back at the party.)

Stormy

Stormy
12-17-03, 16:18
Report on Cafe Orleans in November:

One afternoon took Norelli back to my hotel. She is a slim brunette with an excellent figure, despite two children of whom she is very proud. It was a nice time; she is personable and did all that I asked, BBBJ, DATY, and good sex. My only quibble was that she kind of galloped out after, so I didn´t get my little Spanish lesson, but I had not contracted for that. (If there is time, I like to try to learn a little more Spanish.) I would see her again.

On another afternoon Patricia came over to where I was standing at the bar and in the conversation that followed she said the following sentences, as I was declining her services. "I don´t like it when men don´t take me back with them." (This said with a particularly wild look in her eye; enough to make me nervous.

Maybe she knows Tony Soprano.) "You have money and are on vacation. Why can´t you pay my bill here?" "You are a typical American, cheap." "You are arrogant." "I am interested in marketing." "Here is my telephone number. I can come to your hotel. "I´m very discrete." I carefully put her telephone number in my wallet and somehow lost it on the way back to the hotel.

Stormy

Jackson
12-17-03, 18:55
DH,

That's funny about the condoms. In the beginning, before we got things strightened out, my #1 used to look in my trash cans and count the used condoms. It was ridiculous, she would use a rolled up piece of newspaper to push the actual trash around in her investigation, then confront me with the final count. I told her that she should be glad that they were there, serving as proof that I was using them.

Finally, one day, at lunch with some other people, an opportunity arose for me to segue into stating that "My girlfriend counts my used condoms", after which I turned to her and said "Go ahead dear, tell everyone how many condoms you found in my trash can today".

She was so embarrassed that day that she never did it again.

Still, I changed strategies and started telling the other chicas to flush them. (Oh, you don't think that I'm going to touch it, do you? To me, that's unquestionably "women's work".)

Moondog,

I remember that chick, she was a block of ice.

Jackson

James D 2004
12-18-03, 04:19
I wish I had the woods to see the priceless expression. Once not in Argentina the only thing I can think of to get back to her is to give her half the money for doing nothing, showed her the door while being doubly nice to her. (A bit like Exon but depends on how much her girl usually gets.)

She was stoned holding the money. Caught her off guard totally and didn't know how to response other than holding the money, who doesn't love them? Too little she may not see me again. Too much she would just take the money and laugh. Rather than just cutting my loses, I sensed total victory and so I got worse. She refused to move even after I gave her a nice little push toward the door, while I was saying doubly nice words that I'll call her soon and we will have a much better time next time, instead of a so so time this time. After that she just sat on the bed like this :-( Like a upset little girl. Sort of begging me to stay without saying it. I could have just let her stay, but not before I told her all the things that I wasn't happy with her since I met her. At the end she did what I wanted, even turned on the 5.1 surround sound tracks that I didn't know she was capable of.

Exon123
12-18-03, 14:45
Exon Reporting : A few comments regarding the $100 pesco payment to Carolina for services NOT renderded --- One must remmember that Carolina and I had a thing going on between us --- Shes truly a very nice girl --- And its not her fault that Im a Monger with a wandering eye --- Moreover shes a woman and her re-action was unversal, any woman in the world would have re-acted in the same way --- Try getting caught as I was with your wife or girl friend in the USA and see what happens --- If it was a wife the divorce lawyer would be moving you out of your house in a matter of weeks --- The above coupled with the fact that men have always paid women for sex in one form or another since the begining of time --- They call it the oldest profession in the world for a reason --- Weather your married or not you must bring some sort of value to the table to get laid on a regular basis --- If you think about it; beautiful gorgeous Carolina at 28 years old is not fucking an old coot like me for my good looks --- No shes doing it for the money --- But thats not to say there was no emotion involved in the realtionship because there was --- She was crying and had real tears in her eyes when she left --- So the real basis of giving Carolina the hundred pesos was respect for her, ( she didn't go home emtpy handed and saved a little face), it helped me with my guilt trip and I was gambleing on saving the relationship which worked --- As the next day I sent her an e-mail telling her what a wonderful woman she was, that I didn't deserve her, how sorry I was to have hurt her and how much I loved her --- All the things that women want to hear --- The e-mail was sent at about 1:30 in the afternoon and by 6:00 pm my phone was ringing, she was at my place at 7:00 and we had probably our best session ever --- So my point being the hundred pescos made all the difference and the gamble worked --- I mean try getting out of that kind of trouble at home for $40 bucks, its just not going to happen --- Had I just given her taxi money it would have been over --- Had I let her proceed with the covered BJ on her terms it would have been over --- But by giving her the hundred pescos and refusing her service we both won --- I mean one hundred pescos, $40 bucks who gives a shit --- Exon

Novio
12-18-03, 15:46
Exon,

Hats off to handling that situation well.

Ah, "make up sex".....Almost worth having the fight or argument in the first place, right?

JohnGuapo
12-18-03, 17:33
Exon - great reports but they would be much better if you used periods & some paragraphs. Just a suggestion.

I agree! It would certainly make his reports easier to read.

Jackson