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Greg Brentwood
10-18-09, 07:23
At first, I have to apologize for my bad English! I am from Austria and my first language is German.

I view months ago, I saw at the internet clips from argentinatriplex.com and some of the girls (especially Maya) are exactly that type of girl I am looking for. So I asked friends to have a trip to Buenos Aires in February or march.

Now I informed me about the offer of chicas in this forum and other websites and I am wondering on the one hand about the looking of the girls and on the other hand about the prices!

On one website I saw that the price for a girl is about 400. And the best was, in the bottom of the site was very small written: Prices are in USD. For example in Austria you pay for one hour with an escort round about 200 USD. Most of them are from Russia, the Ukraine or other easter european countries and they are looking like supermodels. I know some asian girls who have together an apartment where you pay 110 USD per hour for an excellent service.

I had a look at some statistics. Austria has a GDP per capita of 50,039 USD, Argentina of only 8,171 USD! If you calculate this it would mean, that you would have to pay fort this Argentinan Escorts round about 2,500 USD per hour in Austria!

There is also no relationship even the price of these Argentinian girls on this site would be in Pesos! 15 % of the inhabitants of B. A. Have an monthly income of less than 317 Pesos which is the official line of poorness. The average income in B. A. Is about 1,156 Pesos per month. So they have only to fuck for three hours to get more than an average monthly income? Some years ago I had a good time in Rio. I picked a girl at the Avenida Atlantica up, had a great night with her, fucked her till I broke down, in the morning whe had a wunderfull breakfest-fuck and I paid about 80 USD for more than 12 hours!

Please don't think that I am a mathematical theorist who masturbates on his statistics! But I think, that this statistics are a good indicator for the prices of services to avoid getting ripped off! I am a company owner and I know that good things have their price, but there must be a relationship and I don't want to be the gringo or the golden nugget!

The portenas are worldwide famous for their beauty but the girls I saw on the pics of the members of this site are classical next door girls - for example Ayi. I would only have some time with her if there is nothing better and when she tells me, no bbbj, no anal, no kissing, etc. I would immidiatly stopp to talk with her. Or Alexa, who is looking nice but not a sensation. Where are the famous superbeauties of B. A. ???

I found an escort service with pics of that what I immagine, when I think about portenas:

http://potras59.com/index2.php?o=DE&id=111

http://potras59.com/index2.php?o=DE&id=136

Does anybody of you know theese girls or this site? Are they fakes? If not, what do they do and what are the costs?

I would be happy, if some of you would have answeres on the lots of questions I have!

Best regards,

Greg Brentwood

Greg Brentwood
10-18-09, 10:20
Here are two other girls referring to my last text:

Brunilda ans Zulma from this site:

http://www.atorrantasvip.com/index2.html

BadMan
10-18-09, 10:28
FAKE FAKE AND FAKE!

I would suggest you stick to the websites reviewed and posted on this site.

This website only works if you use it.

Go to the front page of the forum and look at the escorts sites that are recommended.

Don't waste your time on fake sites.

Regards,

BM

Greg Brentwood
10-18-09, 10:37
Thank you! I am completely new here and registered just yesterday!

Do you have answeres to my other questiones too?

Greg

Easy Go
10-18-09, 12:58
Pricing is simple and complicated. The general rule is that they will try and charge whatever they you think you are willing to pay. Privados tend to have the least variability while the high-end clubs have the most. Internet chicas and streetwalkers are somewhere in the middle.

If you read the board, you'll see $AR100-$AR300 as a normal privado price, AR$300 (Ness) - AR$800 (Madahos) for a club after including costs at the clubs, $AR200-$AR500 for an Internet chica, and everything between free and your life for a random girl picked up on the street.

TLN is less common here. Lots of girls in Rio are just working there so living in shitty conditions packed eight in a room to save as much money as possible. Staying overnight in a hotel is a plus to them Girls in BA tend to have a family life here so are less interested in overnight.

Economic statistics are useless in this matter. It's all about business. Read the board and you'll see experiences vary widely.

A beautiful hooker in Buenos Aries moves to Italy or Spain to get paid in Euros. The top 5% of lookers tend to have more options. I'm sure there are some out there but they are not just standing around on the corner waiting to spend the night with you for 200 pesos. If you come here with that expectation, you are going to be disappointed.

Greg Brentwood
10-18-09, 13:51
Pricing is simple and complicated. The general rule is that they will try and charge whatever they you think you are willing to pay. Privados tend to have the least variability while the high-end clubs have the most. Internet chicas and streetwalkers are somewhere in the middle.

If you read the board, you'll see $AR100-$AR300 as a normal privado price, AR$300 (Ness) - AR$800 (Madahos) for a club after including costs at the clubs, $AR200-$AR500 for an Internet chica, and everything between free and your life for a random girl picked up on the street.

TLN is less common here. Lots of girls in Rio are just working there so living in shitty conditions packed eight in a room to save as much money as possible. Staying overnight in a hotel is a plus to them Girls in BA tend to have a family life here so are less interested in overnight.

Economic statistics are useless in this matter. It's all about business. Read the board and you'll see experiences vary widely.

A beautiful hooker in Buenos Aries moves to Italy or Spain to get paid in Euros. The top 5% of lookers tend to have more options. I'm sure there are some out there but they are not just standing around on the corner waiting to spend the night with you for 200 pesos. If you come here with that expectation, you are going to be disappointed.It sounds like that I would have to stay in Vienna to fuck the top 5 % of Argentinian callgirls.

No, in any case I will have a trip to be. A. Curtainly I am clear about it, that it is not possible to have a hole night with a top-chica for 200 Pesos, but what I wanted to say is, that I could an can not see something like a market-equillibrum according to my informations, that in BA there are about 100,000 prostitutes working and most of the people don't have money.

In Rio this was a completely other case. One of my friends stayed for 9 years there as a correspondent and had a girlfriend who came from one of the top families in Brasil. So every door to every disco or memberclub was open and in two months I only had two professionals. My other contacts came from Hippo or Caligula etc.

The Problem is, that I don't have this sort of contact in Argentina. I know some Argeninian diplomats here in Vienna an some Austrian diplomats in be. A. But I don't't have businesscontacts to the Argentinien upper class. In this context I want to get in contact with Ex-German or Ex-Austrian immigrant clubs witch must exist. (Not the ex-nazis certainly; there must also be others!

I don't want to be indiscreet, so if you don't want to answere this question pease say it: In which context are you in BA only for the chicas or also for business?

Best Regards,

Greg

El Greco
10-18-09, 14:44
The portenas are worldwide famous for their beauty Let me have my arguments about that. I am visiting B's A's for a few years now and I haven't seen any REAL beauty there except a very small number at Blacks.

I went to Colombia for two months and I saw a lot of beauties. Even the perfect 10 of my life on a Friday evening in Parque Jerras Medellin.

Unfortunately she was not with me. I only had a good 8+ on my side. She was the most beautiful woman I ever saw in my long life.

Even more beauties you can see in Venezuela but certainly not in B's A's.

My opinion of course.

Easy Go
10-19-09, 03:58
I visit BA because I like BA. I used to go to Brasil but I got tired of looking over my shoulder all the time and it got expensive for me when the dollar cratered against the real. Also, I decided that Spanish was a much more practical language to learn than Portuguese.

My personal experience in Brasil was that the garotas in Brasil were not as good looking as the chicas in BA but were a lot more sensual and fun. I often got the feeling in Brasil that they were charging me only because it was expected and they needed the money. That's a rare illusion in BA.

That said, I think BA is a nicer, cheaper, and safer place any place in Brasil and the women are more than acceptable. However, if your goal is to bang 10's, I suspect you can do better in Europe (if you have money) or Colombia (if you don't) BA fits my bank account and priorities so I go there.

It's pointless to make a comparison on macroeconomic issues and it's equally pointless to compare a place where you have an "in" with one where you are coming in cold.

Your tone sounds like you are determined to go to BA just so you can complain that the women were not beautiful enough. That might just be language issues but, if it is at all true, you should do yourself a favor and go to Colombia instead.

Greg Brentwood
10-19-09, 08:09
I visit BA because I like BA. I used to go to Brasil but I got tired of looking over my shoulder all the time and it got expensive for me when the dollar cratered against the real. Also, I decided that Spanish was a much more practical language to learn than Portuguese.

My personal experience in Brasil was that the garotas in Brasil were not as good looking as the chicas in BA but were a lot more sensual and fun. I often got the feeling in Brasil that they were charging me only because it was expected and they needed the money. That's a rare illusion in BA.

That said, I think BA is a nicer, cheaper, and safer place any place in Brasil and the women are more than acceptable. However, if your goal is to bang 10's, I suspect you can do better in Europe (if you have money) or Colombia (if you don't) BA fits my bank account and priorities so I go there.

It's pointless to make a comparison on macroeconomic issues and it's equally pointless to compare a place where you have an "in" with one where you are coming in cold.

Your tone sounds like you are determined to go to BA just so you can complain that the women were not beautiful enough. That might just be language issues but, if it is at all true, you should do yourself a favor and go to Colombia instead.Thank you for your answer! It is not my intention to fuck the whole time beautiful callgirls to the lowest prices. I am from Austria and it takes me only 3 hours by car to Slovakia, Hungary or the Chech Rebublic where you can get all of this. (Only one hour to the border region of all of these countries but there the prices are nearly the same like in Vienna.) Or 2 hours per plane to Bucarest, Sofia, Kiev or the Baltic. So there is no need for me to fly to the other end of the word to do this.

I want to go to BA because I want to know the city in all this it can offer: the climate, the food, the people in general, certainly the girls, etc. So this is only one (but important) reason to make the trip! And I wouldn't go for the trip to complain, but it is better to be a little bit disappointed bevor, than during the trip.

I heard of my friends what you said about the growing crime rate in Rio. They say that they are always afraid of a police control because they do not know if this is the police or covert gangsters.

But you, and ElGreco too, talk about the beauties in Colombia. All you can hear about Colombia in Europe is civil war, brutality and extreme high crime rates. Some time ago, an Austrian couple, young tourist, were kidnapped and killed for nearly nothing. Isn't it very dangerous there to stay and look for girls?

Another question about BA: Did you allways have contact with professionals or also with "normal" chicas? Is it hard to get in contact with nonprofs?

Best Regards,

Greg

Easy Go
10-19-09, 12:30
I don't know when you were in Rio but it has been dangerous for a long time. Colombia is supposed to be reasonably safe as long as you stay in the cities. Crime and violence are unpredictable but I think cities in Colombia are more or less like cities in Brazil. In both places, if you start blindly hitting on beautiful girls in clubs, you may end up in a serious jam if she has a narco-gangster boyfriend. But jealous, dangerous boyfriends are a risk everywhere. They just might be quicker to shoot you there.

The good news is that most of the crime risk for tourists in both places is from scams and robbery where they are more interested in your money than your life. The justice systems don't work very well so robberies get a lot less police attention that murders.

I don't Chase non-pros because I don't have the game or the willingness to deal with the complications that come with catching one.

Ricker
10-19-09, 13:57
For me:

(chica ratings)

BEAUTY:

1. Colombia.

2. Brasil.

3. Argentina.

ATTITUDE (fun, GFE, sexy):

1. Brasil.

2. Colombia.

3. Argentina.

COST (least costly PFP)

1. Colombia.

2. Argentina.

3. Brasil.

NON PROS:

1. Brasil.

2. Colombia.

3. All other latin countries.

4. Argentina.

I've been traveling to and visiting quite frequently Colombia for about 10 years, Brasil and Argentina for about 2 years.

I speak both Spanish and Portuguese well.

Good luck! They're all much more desireable then the 'sex prison':)

Greg Brentwood
10-19-09, 14:59
It looks like, that I have to put Colombia also on my travel list. How is the quality of life in Colombia? Wether, food, lodging, etc?

And how is the chica-market in Uruguay? Maybe I will spend a week there during my BA trip?

Greg Brentwood
10-19-09, 15:13
An other question to you experts:

What is your opinion the city with the most quality of life in South America?

Chicas, crime rate, food, lodging, all together as a conclusion?

TomChadwick1
10-19-09, 23:58
If you like chicas with big butts. Go to Rio or Columbia. If you like small butts then go to BA. Personal choice. BA. For all of them. They have Columbia chicas, Brazil chicas, all kinds in BA.

El Greco
10-20-09, 01:44
For me:

(chica ratings)

BEAUTY:

1. Colombia.

2. Brasil.

3. Argentina.

ATTITUDE (fun, GFE, sexy):

1. Brasil.

2. Colombia.

3. Argentina.

COST (least costly PFP)

1. Colombia.

2. Argentina.

3. Brasil.

NON PROS:

1. Brasil.

2. Colombia.

3. All other latin countries.

4. Argentina.

I've been traveling to and visiting quite frequently Colombia for about 10 years, Brasil and Argentina for about 2 years.

I speak both Spanish and Portuguese well.

Good luck! They're all much more desireable then the 'sex prison':)I am curious why you don't include Venezuela although you spent some time there. I found Venezoelanas to be very pretty too.

I didn't like the set up and that is why I don't go back there.

Ricker
10-20-09, 02:36
I am curious why you don't include Venezuela although you spent some time there. I found Venezoelanas to be very pretty too.

I didn't like the set up and that is why I don't go back there.Good question:)

I was just comparing those particular 3 countries, however, la Venezolanas rate right up there with the Colombianas.

In every category, I'd rate the Venezolana equal to the Colombiana and maybe even a bit more exotic actually.

I went through a time when I only visited Venezuela, both Caracas and Maracaibo, and had some great times and met and dated some fantastic chicas there.

As far as BA goes, I have a fun time there too, almost all of the chicas I dig there are not Argentine though.
If you just want to visit pros for boom boom sex, BA is great and plentiful.
If you're hoping for more GFE and / or to meet cool non-pros, I'd recommend Brasil, Colombia, Venezuela. Much warmer cultures there IMO.

And PS, the traveling Colombianas that you'll meet in BA are nowhere near the quality, both physically and in attitude, of the Colombianas you can meet in Colombia itself.

Lgjg24
10-20-09, 02:39
I just came back from Buenos Aires. My advice is to not go!

I thought the same way as you. Must be hot girls, the culture, beauty, get to know the city. I was bored and SO disappointed with the women. Stay away and look for a better place. I just wrote a small report if you want to see it.

Wild Walleye
10-20-09, 05:05
I just came back from Buenos Aires. My advice is to not go!

I thought the same way as you. Must be hot girls, the culture, beauty, get to know the city. I was bored and SO disappointed with the women. Stay away and look for a better place. I just wrote a small report if u want to see it.Please expand on your experiences (chicas, establishments, etc) Hard to see not finding something or someone you'd like in Bs As (unless you are looking for Korean spinners)

Jackson
10-20-09, 23:37
Greetings everyone,

I have move the discussion regarding Uruguay to the forum titled "Travel Reports - Uruguay"

http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5833

Thanks,

Jackson

Hunt99
10-21-09, 00:01
If you like chicas with big butts. Go to Rio or Columbia. If you like small butts then go to BA. Personal choice. BA. For all of them. They have Columbia chicas, Brazil chicas, all kinds in BA.Funny, but that's precisely my impression too - some of the tiniest women's asses I have ever violated have been those of Portenas. Must be something in the water from the River.