American Politics during the Bush Presidency

[QUOTE=Dirk Diggler]Mongers-

Clearly Goblin is way off in his constant rambling about vast conspiracy theories, however, I think he is correct in believing that the US government is complicit or at least negligent in many of the unfortunate events that have occurred in recent times. "For every action, there is an equal re-action". The September 11 attacks happened- several thousand people died, the vast majority "innocent" people. However, from the view of the Arabic men that took part in the attacks, these people were no more "innocent" than the thousands of Iraqi children who had died as a result of US "no fly zone" airstrikes or the US embargo on Iraq that caused the starvation and suffering of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children. Or, were those killed in 9/11 any more "innocent" than the countless numbers of Palestinians who have been killed by Israelis during the years of occupation? The 9/11 attackers undoubtedly viewed their actions as an act of war, and in times of war, "innocents" die and that is the way it is.

Keep in mind that I am from the NYC sphere, I know several people with friends and other relatives who died in the attacks, and I saw the destruction firsthand. However, sometimes the "hens come home to roost" and in this case the "blowback" to the US foreign policy came in the form of jumbo jets flying into our buildings. War is Hell, that is a fact, but keep in mind that we are all humans and that Iraqis and Palestinans feel the same grief for their fallen loved ones that Americans do.

Suerte,

Dirk Diggler[/QUOTE]Dirk,

You are a reader. Why don't you pick up a few books from alternative media outlets and examine the evidence that has been compiled by so many truly patriotic and concerned american authors who have gone through such great lenghths to reveal the terrible truth of government involvement in 9/11.

Until you do that your opinions are subject only to the official version as portrayed by the maintream media monopolies.

Goblin

[QUOTE=MoonDog]Speak for yourself.

Moondog[/QUOTE]Ok, I was out of line but definately everyone here has fucked hookers just like Sheen has. And "I pay them to leave" is everyone's favorite mantra.

Goblin.

You know Goblin if you quit wasting time on this board, you could gather more information about the USA's complicity in the 9/11 attacks, and use that information to persuade people who give a shit to your way of thinking. You really get a kick out of spouting off your stuff to people that you know are going to disagree with most, if not all of it. Your just another sad, little non entity jacking off in the corner, screaming, "Hey, look at me. I know things you don't know!". Your not interested in an intelligent dialogue otherwise you wouldn't be hanging out here. I'm surprised your not out on a street somewhere holding up a sign, hoping somebody will take a poke at you. Then you could run around with your bloody nose screaming about the conspiracy to silence you.

[QUOTE=Nibu Raphael]Alright Dudes I Feel Like The Modern Charlie Sheen Monger Here. He Says It Right. People Like Mel Gibson And His Father Hutton Gibson know The Truth To. In Fact Hutton Gibson is a Big Promoter of Liberty. Guys Will Try To post on this more maybe tommorrow cause I need to take care Of Things Now. Actually Dickhead Cheney is more In Power Then Bush Shit. Why Didn, t Cheney also Get Charged For His Drunken Spree of Shotting someone? I Got A Kid These Days And I Want Him To Grow Up In Peace Not War. Take Care You all. Goblin You Said It Right For Sure. Dirk You Said it Half Right. Stop These Stupid Wars Guys.[/QUOTE]Nibu, not sure what you're on about but if you refuse to become more coherent in the presentation of your opinions you will serve to discredit the truth. No offence but it has to be said. You're starting to sound like Hunt99 and you don't want that.

Goblin.

[QUOTE=Doggboy]You know Goblin if you quit wasting time on this board, you could gather more information about the USA's complicity in the 9/11 attacks, and use that information to persuade people who give a shit to your way of thinking. You really get a kick out of spouting off your stuff to people that you know are going to disagree with most, if not all of it. Your just another sad, little non entity jacking off in the corner, screaming, "Hey, look at me. I know things you don't know!". Your not interested in an intelligent dialogue otherwise you wouldn't be hanging out here. I'm surprised your not out on a street somewhere holding up a sign, hoping somebody will take a poke at you. Then you could run around with your bloody nose screaming about the conspiracy to silence you.[/QUOTE]Doggboy,

There is no such thing as intelligent dialogue made outside of reality, but as they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

Goblin

[QUOTE=Goblin]Well I find your self aggrandizing, self righteous, and of course deluded position rather amusing. You never fail in that department.

Firstly if I was in Argentina which by know you should know I am not I would have no hesitation whatsoever about a face to face meeting to correct you and your irrational nonsense and watch you scurry away in shame red faced and teary eyed but hopefully slightly less confused than you are right now.

Secondly the loss to the victims of 9/11 is greatly aggravated by our own governments involvement in this attack and it is they who should be most outraged by this and by people like you who try to deny the obvious and parrot propaganda mantras in light of the devastatingly monumentally huge mountain of evidence proving conclusively collusion by the US government in the 9/11 attack.

Thirdly the many victims of 9/11 whose interests you pretend to represent with your wrong opinions are suing the federal government in US courts right now making the same conspiratorial accusations that you like to rail against.

Fourthly I have nothing to say to the people in the middle east because it is the US government that is the enemy of American people and not a bunch of Allah screaming confused brown skins who couldn't fly a kite into the New York trade centre if Mohammad's resurrection depended on it.

Anyone who is incapable of understanding such things can also not be expected to recognize how the people you knew in high school and the firemen you new that lost their buddies, or what your brother does in his spare time has absolutely nothing to do with the assignment of blame for the attack.

Thomaso; I knew you were a lost cause after my first encounter with you and to be truthful my opinion of you has not changed.

Yours I suppose is the logic and the self righteousness one should expect from a pleasure seeking pervert.

So be careful what you wish for because you might get it, you would never be able to show your face at Alamo's again. You should know by now that I have no problems dealing with confrontation or with voicing opinions contrary to the majority and I have certainly never had a problem dealing with the likes of you.

Oh as long as I'm posting anonymously you say? Believe me, my friends would tell you otherwise.

Goblin.[/QUOTE]Goblin,

I would firstly like to tell you I am from England and we don't obviously receive as much news as in America about 9/11.

I have read your posts with interest but I still don't see what the conspiracy is.

Is it possible for you to put in laymen's terms what you believe was the true facts of 9/11.

I ask this with sincerity.

FH

you know we could talk all day about conspiracy theories but then i would not be able to direct you to [url]http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html[/url] which is a great source of debunking pathetic nonsense like we have had in this thread especially the stuff about charlie sheen whose greatest contribution is that he boned denise richards and thank you starfe for the photo i blew my spooge all over her cyber tits but the semen got in a crack in the corner of my screen and i needed to get some windex to clean it out it is almost as cleaned out as my bowels were after i had a mexican dinner last night gosh how hot that was i never spent so much time on the crapper as i did last night when you sit on the crapper for such a long time your mind starts to wander and think about things like i was thinking about how much some of the posters on this board reminded me of the stuff floating in the bowl down underneath my ass but then i remembered starfe and his nice photo that he shared and how i really dig denise richards and my cock got hard and oh it was wonderful jacking off thinking about denise richards washing my car the way she did for matt dillon in wild things i always wanted a tarty woman like denise richards to soap up my mustang matt dillon was so lucky much more lucky than charlie sheen who since the hottest woman in the universe left him is reduced to appearing on tv channels which dont really broadcast anywhere and arent really watched by anybody except the people floating around in the toilet bowl underneath my ass

[QUOTE=Papa Benito]The Ex-Nut has really convinced me that you men are correct. I engaged him in a long conversation. Now, I believe he is a genius! I presented your proof to him. He believes it was done by Pedofhiles. It was an inside job. Exlosives detonated in the buildings. An effort to destroy our economic system. Pentagon was compiling secret pedophile files that they destroyed. The airplanes didn't exist. The airplane crash in PA was not related. The purpose of the explosions was to cause economic chaos. They could continue their sexual practices without goverment interference. Financing provided by the Catholic Church and The National Gay Alliance. Many thanks to the 3 of you for alerting me. Now, I feel a little closure on the death of a very good friend.[/QUOTE]You should be ashamed of yourself for making fun of and trying to deny what killed your so called very good friend. If this is how you treat your friends I would hate to be your enemy. I don't know if it is possible for someone like you to have any friends.

Goblin

Popular Mechanics has a receptive road rash trailer trash audience ready to accept all kinds of superficial and conjecturous propaganda nonsense.

On the other hand, I would expect a whoremongering maniac to flock to publications like Hustler or Penthouse in search for the truth instead of some car nut magazine.

Gentlemongers - surely even Sheen reveered as the author of the monger's mantra has more credibility than a hot rod rag!

Goblin

Goblin, I had to search some of your posts because I could not remember any encounters that you claimed. Now I remember you. How is your girlfriend Rudolph?

Pedophiles? Why would you bring them into the conspiracy? Now if the buildings were full of pedophiles I would be okay with that. Sick, twisted pieces of crap who do not deserve to live. How do you feel about them? Surely you agree they do not deserve a place in any society. Predators and scum all. There is no treatment for these sick SOB's, jail for life or death penalty.

You remind me of the bystander in the crowd who started the fire across the street. Just milling around to get a hard on. You mill around in the forum and in local meeting places knowing you do not belong, thinking you are getting away with something special.

Later.

[QUOTE=Flexible Horn]Goblin,

I would firstly like to tell you I am from England and we don't obviously receive as much news as in America about 9/11.

I have read your posts with interest but I still don't see what the conspiracy is.

Is it possible for you to put in laymen's terms what you believe was the true facts of 9/11.

I ask this with sincerity.

FH[/QUOTE]Flexible.

Without also providing you with evidentiary backup the facts of government involvement will seem too fantastic to even the most open minded. It is difficult to believe that the truth is such a drastic departure from the official version crammed down our throats by the media conglomerates.

When you see Bush waving the American flag at funerals and memorial services for his own victims then it becomes difficult to conceive that such wretchedness is possible. But an administration that poisons its own troops as in Dessert Storm with depleted uranium rounds etc and sends them home brain damage and otherwise disabled is really capable of anything.

The only way to educate yourself is to buy a variety of books from sources that are unfortunately being discredited by those in collusion with special interests who have something to gain from these disasters. [url]www.inforwars.com[/url]. I have found him to be among the more credible researchers although he is a bit crass especially for the European pallet he also does exaggerate a bit and sometimes and takes things slightly out of context. On purpose or to amplify his point, I’m not sure. However, in comparison to the manufacturings of the mainstream it is absolute truth.

The most recent terrorist events against the US have all been sponsored, organized, and orchestrated by elements within the US intelligence community. These include the Oklahoma event, the attack against the US Cole, the embassy attacks, the first attack against the WTC in 1989 and of course the event of 9/11. Publications are readily available; they contain verifiable and irrefutable evidence.

The agenda is political control over America, if you are willing to do some reading on the subject we will have something to discuss. [url]www.infowars.com[/url]

Goblin

[QUOTE=Thomaso276]Goblin, I had to search some of your posts because I could not remember any encounters that you claimed. Now I remember you. How is your girlfriend Rudolph?

Pedophiles? Why would you bring them into the conspiracy? Now if the buildings were full of pedophiles I would be okay with that. Sick, twisted pieces of crap who do not deserve to live. How do you feel about them? Surely you agree they do not deserve a place in any society. Predators and scum all. There is no treatment for these sick SOB's, jail for life or death penalty.

You remind me of the bystander in the crowd who started the fire across the street. Just milling around to get a hard on. You mill around in the forum and in local meeting places knowing you do not belong, thinking you are getting away with something special.

Later.[/QUOTE]Please Thomaso - substance.

What do I think of pedophiles? I think they are perverts, just like you!

Goblin

[QUOTE=Papa Benito]I just made a very good friend, the Ex-Nut. We share your conspiracy theories. I thought You and Nibu would now be my friends?[/QUOTE]Ok so now you have one friend, the nut from Alamo. Done bragging? Make sure you don't mock him when he dies in the next government sponsored setup.

Goblin.