American Politics during the Bush Presidency

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]"On the evening newscasts of the three traditional networks, in contrast, there is no such ideological split. Indeed, on the nightly newscasts of ABC, CBS and NBC, coverage tends to be more neutral and generally less negative than elsewhere."

Can we once and for all, forever and ever, stop seeing the phrase "liberal bias in the media" now? Because now declared in an article sited by "El Jeffe" himself we see there isn't. Jax perhaps you can set up a script or something that replaces "liberal bias in the media" with oh I don't know, maybe "idiotic piece of bullshit."[/QUOTE]I agree, the nightly newscasts aren't particularly biased. But how about Red Bob Scheiffer on CBS's Face the Nation? Or This Week with George Stephanopolous on ABC, where you've got two professional Democrat political operatives or ex-operatives (Donna Brazile and Stephanopolous) on every show? NBC does the same with Paul Krugman -- they pass him off as in impartial economist when really he's as partisan as they get.

Jackson's graph, from an unbiased source, speaks for itself. I just finished listening to about an hour of Fox and they were giving a lot more airtime to Obama suporters than to McCain's. Maybe it's because Rupert Murdoch (owner of Fox) sees the writing on the wall, and he doesn't want the Democrat Congress and president putting him out of business. But the Pew study shows Fox has indeed been fair and balanced while MSNBC has been slamming McCain.

Besides, have a little pity on the rest of us who don't get a chance to make it by Catto's. You want us to have to stare at Joe Biden every other day on the news for the next 4 years?

[QUOTE=Tiny12]Besides, have a little pity on the rest of us who don't get a chance to make it by Catto's. You want us to have to stare at Joe Biden every other day on the news for the next 4 years?[/QUOTE]Now that's funny, and you do have my sympathy. And, at his age I don't think Joe is gonna get any better looking any time soon.

On the other hand, if he makes himself as scarce as Cheney, you may have nothing to worry about.:)

Members of the Government should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers, so we could identify their corporate sponsors.

She didn't know the name of the President of France, or Prime Minister of Canada.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEwKcs-7Hc[/url]

God I hope McCain doesn't die if they win. You Repubs should form a new party that throws widows and children out into the street. The one you have is punking you worse than Sarah just got punked.

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]She didn't know the name of the President of France, or Prime Minister of Canada.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEwKcs-7Hc[/url]

God I hope McCain doesn't die if they win. You Repubs should form a new party that throws widows and children out into the street. The one you have is punking you worse than Sarah just got punked.[/QUOTE]The bottom line: After all the smoke clears, Palin still has more executive / managerial experience than Obama, who has ZERO experience running anything, and who has NEVER once done anything that his party didn't first authorize.

I'll take an experienced and proven maverick over an inexperienced, kow-towing neophyte any day.

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=Jackson]The bottom line: After all the smoke clears, Palin still has more executive / managerial experience than Obama, who has ZERO experience running anything, and who has NEVER once done anything that his party didn't first authorize.

I'll take an experienced and proven maverick over an inexperienced, kow-towing neophyte any day.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]So I won't mention that I know restaurant managers that manage more people than live in Wasilla (ok that's a joke but for fucks sake brother 5000 people?

Gov of Alaska (less people than the student body of The University of Texas, who suffered a heartbreaker of a loss yesterday sob) for less than two years.

She's an embarrassment to your party brother, you won't admit it but you know it. Normally I wouldn't care about a VP so much, I've said all along I could live with McAngryOldGuy (though I liked McCain.2000 much better than the.2008 upgrade) it's just that he is old and we would have a 33% chance of her becoming President. I'm sorry Jax, that's intolerable.

Perhaps Obama stayed on the party line because they were in opposition to Shrub? You guys were wrong in 2000, you were wrong again in 2004 and if McPain is successful and McAngryOldGuy becomes McNotSoAngryBecauseHeIsDeadGuy I will sit on the patio of whatever restaurant Exedra has become and laugh my ass off at you guys for electing her.

She didn't know the name of the President of France. Get it Jax, McCain is 72 years old, we are less than a week from the election and she didn't know the name of either the President of France or The PM of Canada.

Everyone of you Repubs that posts on this board are smart, well educated guys, how can you disdain education in one candidate and put this MILF in the office next to the oval? I can understand people like my dad doing it. I honestly can, he's uneducated and country and thinks that if Obama gets elected they will have to let fags marry in his church, but you guys are smart. I just don't get it.

Though in all honesty, ever since that disgusting pervert Stowe posted about having a Democratic White House with a Democratic super majority in both houses I can't stop thinking about how fucked up that imbalance of power would be. I don't care which party has it, that much power is too much IMHO. Part of me is kinda hoping McPain wins and McAngryOldGuy becomes McAngryOlderGuy for at least 4 years.

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]Everyone of you Repubs that posts on this board are smart, well educated guys, how can you disdain education in one candidate and put this MILF in the office next to the oval? I can understand people like my dad doing it. I honestly can, he's uneducated and country and thinks that if Obama gets elected they will have to let fags marry in his church, but you guys are smart. I just don't get it.[/QUOTE]Because the alternative is so much worse.

[QUOTE=Jackson]Because the alternative is so much worse.[/QUOTE]So much worse? Really?

Columbia Univ. (undergrad PoliSci and International Relations) Harvard Law (President of the Law Review) three terms in the Senate, Professor of Constitutional law (The Presidents oath is to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution) and job experience defending civil rights (my rights, your rights, and yes black welfare mothers with 14 illegitimate kids who are working the system to our detriment rights) Community activist, former weed smoker (come on maybe NORML will have a chance if he gets in) Dedicated family man, the only time he has lost his temper in public is when the press wouldn't leave his kids alone to go to a Halloween party.

And all that is so much worse than, to quote Rock Harder.

"a women who took the ten year five transfer plan from various Buttwipe State Universities and a women who has experience only as the governor of a state about as corrupt as several Argentine provinces (see her own actions, along with those of her mentor Ted Stevens, just today CONVICTED of 7 FELONY counts) We are talking about a women here who is married to a high school dropout who races snowmobiles for a living; this man pulls her strings with regularity. She is also a right wing religious fanatic of the worst ilk. How could anyone elect a ticket that would put her one step away from controlling the most powerful and influential ship on state on the planet today?"

Again while I'm not voting for McAngryOldGuy I could live with him and due to the idea of concentrating so much power in one basket would grudgingly admit that it might be better for the country over the long haul to split that power up and have some opposition among the three branches. Brother think, don't react, think! Sarah Palin one heartbeat away from running this country for four years.

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]So much worse? Really?

Columbia Univ. (undergrad PoliSci and International Relations) Harvard Law (President of the Law Review) three terms in the Senate, Professor of Constitutional law (The Presidents oath is to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution) and job experience defending civil rights (my rights, your rights, and yes black welfare mothers with 14 illegitimate kids who are working the system to our detriment rights) Community activist, former weed smoker (come on maybe NORML will have a chance if he gets in) Dedicated family man, the only time he has lost his temper in public is when the press wouldn't leave his kids alone to go to a Halloween party.

And all that is so much worse than, to quote Rock Harder.

"a women who took the ten year five transfer plan from various Buttwipe State Universities and a women who has experience only as the governor of a state about as corrupt as several Argentine provinces (see her own actions, along with those of her mentor Ted Stevens, just today CONVICTED of 7 FELONY counts) We are talking about a women here who is married to a high school dropout who races snowmobiles for a living; this man pulls her strings with regularity. She is also a right wing religious fanatic of the worst ilk. How could anyone elect a ticket that would put her one step away from controlling the most powerful and influential ship on state on the planet today?"

Again while I'm not voting for McAngryOldGuy I could live with him and due to the idea of concentrating so much power in one basket would grudgingly admit that it might be better for the country over the long haul to split that power up and have some opposition among the three branches. Brother think, don't react, think! Sarah Palin one heartbeat away from running this country for four years.[/QUOTE]First, in my experience, the "A" students usually end up working for the "C" students.

Second, Palin has political "balls", and Obama doesn't.

Third, you're still comparing the top of the Dem's ticket with the bottom of the Republication's ticket.

How about comparing Obama's resume to McCain's resume?

Thanks,

Jackson

That my friend is the crux of it all.

You have senior officers in our military scratching their heads a the Palin pick. Yet every Repub that wants to remain in power seems to give her a pass. Btw, I am not a Democrat nor a Republican. And if McCain would have picked Romney or Huckabee, I [I]might[/I] have actually voted for him.

Regards,

BM

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]So much worse? Really?

Columbia Univ. (undergrad PoliSci and International Relations) Harvard Law (President of the Law Review) three terms in the Senate, Professor of Constitutional law (The Presidents oath is to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution) and job experience defending civil rights (my rights, your rights, and yes black welfare mothers with 14 illegitimate kids who are working the system to our detriment rights) Community activist, former weed smoker (come on maybe NORML will have a chance if he gets in) Dedicated family man, the only time he has lost his temper in public is when the press wouldn't leave his kids alone to go to a Halloween party.[/QUOTE]And that's the problem. He's never done anything except debate. He's a member of the arrogant, leftist, elititist establishment. This is irrelevant since it's McCain that's running for president, but Palin could be the best pick of the group. She's successfully run a state, as evidenced by her extremely high approval ratings among Alaskans. She has basic economic sense. She realizes that it doesn't make sense to tax the top 5% at higher rates, if it means they'll pay a lower percentage of the income tax. I'd take Ronald Reagan (former governor) over Richard Nixon or George Bush Sr. (professional politicians with no executive experience) any day. Or for that matter, Bill Clinton over Al Gore or John Kerry.

I had an Ivy-league educated Marxist government professor. He was a smart guy. I would never vote for him for president. Same for Obama.

I agree with your thoughts about the benefits of split government. If the Democrats had controlled the house after the 2002 election, the Republicans might not have gotten away with so much wasteful spending.

[QUOTE=Sidney]I'm referring to one of your past posts! Will you ''dive'' solo? Or will other Eastern Elitists accompany you? Even if O is elected, you eventually will be so disappointed! You are just postponing the inevitable![/QUOTE]Hah hah, Syd old sport, Obama may be measuring the drapes but there's a lot of your crowd measuring the rope. Why wait? Set an example. You know the Repubs have a herd mentality and run to the smell of fear in their nostrils. There always has to be the first lemming and they'll have a swinging time.

Jackson and all his Rush Limbaugh wannabees-

Face it, there is going to be a black man with a Harvard mouth in the White House, and there is nothing you can do about it. Obama is going to put all the neocon scum to sleep for the next eight years while he changes the way the USA conducts itself both at home and on the international stage. By the end of his first term Obama will have re-established diplomatic relations with Cuba, Iran and North Korea, Havana will be well on its way to being Disneyland, and the neocon vomit fest that was 2001-2008 will be swept under rug forever as people remember why they rejected it in the first place in the early 90's.

Suerte,

Rock Harders

With the election only a couple of days away, I better decide who to support with my vote. I have been a fan of McCain for the past 10 years. I greatly admire his service and sacrifice for the country as a veteran. I liked that he was a voice for the moderately conservative and showed an independent spirit in the Senate. I supported him in both the 2000 and 2008 primaries. Until a few months ago, I was certain in my support for him in the general elections.

My confidence in McCain was initially shaken by his choice of Palin as Vice President. Irrespective of Sarah Palin's positive qualities, she is not qualified to be the President of our country in an unfortunate event. Her subsequent performance since her selection has shown to be the case. With a large pool of highly qualified candidates available to McCain, his choice of Palin put doubts for me in his slogan of 'Country First'. It appears it was McCain first with win at all costs attitude. Besides his motitation, it brought his judgement in question for the first time in 10 years.

My confidence in McCain further eroded when he decided to suspend the campaign in light of the economic crisis and without making any positive contribution to the solution was back on the campaign trail in two days. It demonstrated unstability in his behavior unsuitable for a President.

Being not sure in my support for McCain, I have been watching the McCain / Palin campaign very closely for the past few weeks. What I have observed is a focus on negative and divisive rhetoric on their part. Frankly, I was offended by their assertions that some parts of the US are unamerican, and that certain groups of citizens are unpatriotic.

Thus, under these circumstances I can't in good consciousness vote for McCain because I have come to believe that the current McCain is not the right person to lead our great nation.

Do I abstain or vote for Obama has yet to be decided.