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Actually a lot of times the price I pay depends on my perception of quality, by which I mean if price is not negotiated in advance, I pay 'em what I think they are worth and if they don't like it they don't have to fuck me again. I seldom have an issue with this approach. In fact the session I had a few nights ago, not only was price never discussed but I had no idea of what her expectations were.
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Saint, I'm sorry but you sound like a travel agent trying to push premium priced trips. And Moondog is still trying to support higher prices with that "example" about Madahos.
I thought I was through with this, and didn't respond when you gave this same argument in response to my last posts. But here you bring it out again.
Why is it so hard to understand the issue is not the relative QUALITY of a Black 10 versus a Nuevo Estilo 7, but the difference in PRICE between a Black 10 and a London , German, or Las Vegas 10. Or the difference in PRICE between a Black 8 and an NEB 8. About a year ago the quoting price at Black was about $ar300, not $ar600. That's 100% inflation. My point has always been that there is a tendency for tourists to raise the local prices to a world price that has nothing to do with value. That is what we need to fight against.
As the tourists leave Black and Madahos for other places to avoid the prices they caused, they are driving up the prices there, proportionately, also. Which is why I also say lets try to keep them at Black and Madahos, and let THEM try to hold the line there.
If you go look at your budget discussion, they are paying that Black woman about the equivalent of $US600-800 in purchasing power. She is making a handsome WEEKLY salary with each client of 1-2 hours. That is ridiculous in BA.
On bargaining, the women are learning from the tourists how much money they are willing to spend. And they also are learning that if they start at $US200, the man will not counter with $ar200, he will counter with $US150. And, they are learning the "don't tell", trick to make you feel you're getting a bargain. Thus the women are simply playing the tourists for what they have. We need to try harder to educate against this tendency, not promote it. And with your "thumbs up", you are promoting it with the woman, as well as here.
I wouldn't care about this, but like other forms of pollution, it ultimately affects us all.
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Prices seem to be going up in AR
When I first started looking for a place to move to AR was about 30-40 bucks for pussy and now it seems it is over 100 for a short time. I can get that in the US.
Where would you say the cheapest pussy is? Columbia? Brazil?
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Maybe you guys just like to buy meaningless sex, but I like to pay the girls at LEAST $300 USD, then they REALLY love me!
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Lexton. Like I said. We can agree to disagree. I think the biggest difference might lie in the fact that you and Dickhead and maybe others like you guys look at sex only as the act of sex. (Getting laid, having an orgasm). Where in guys like me look at the whole package. The girl I'm actually with, the attraction I have for that girl, her beauty, her performance, etc.
I'm not advocating paying more. You're totally missing the point. My point is that X does NOT equal Y and you and Dickhead and other guys like you keep trying to say that X=Y.
I never push anything on anyone and you can use your example but at the same time I'd say that you sound like a used car salesman on a small lot that is trying to pitch the idea that a 1987 Pinto performs and looks just as good as a 2004 Mercedes. Even though the customer is repeatedly telling you they are aren't opposed to paying more to get what they actually want. They are telling you that they don't like any of the cars on your small little lot but you keep trying to tell them that it's a waste of money paying money for a more expensive model.
I say that if you guys don't want to go to Madahos and Black you simply don't go. I guess the biggest problem I still see is that you are using your own tastes and amount you want to spend on the rest of the WSG world. Yes, you will pay more in the higher end clubs. It has always been like that and it probably always will. I'm not saying you can't find some hot girls in the other clubs. I've pulled out lots of girls out of the other clubs too. When a girl gives you a price, you can either accept it or move on. Market forces and supply and demand will work itself out.
Talk to guys that know Buenos Aires. Guys like Andres that have been in probably more clubs than most guys. Ask him where the most beautiful girls are. Ask him if you totally take price out of the equation, which girls he is most attracted to. Ask him which girls he would rather have sex with. I seriously doubt he will be telling you the clubs in Flores like Dollys. In fact, I asked him that very same question before and he told me the girls in Madahos are his favorite type. That is the point I'm making...nothing more...nothing less.
I wouldn't care about this either but several of you keep trying to say that guys that spend more are either being stupid or it's not necessary. When you guys drop the argument that X=Y than I will too. I'm not saying all the girls in the higher end clubs are hotter. Several in those clubs are quite bad. Still, the stunners that ARE left over I've never seen that calibre in other clubs. Keep in mind that I live here now and it does me [b]NO[/b] good to try to push people into Madahos and Black. I'll still continue to tell it like it is though. Good luck.
P.S. I just looked at some photos on the BA WSG section. I could make the argument that many of those pictures make me wonder who in their right mind would pay money for those girls. (Let's be honest...many are older, out of shape, unattractive, full of stretch marks and tattos, etc. that many of us wouldn't sleep with if you paid us). I don't say those guys are wasting their money though. The thing that matters is if those guys had a good time. All of this money talk is relative. Like I said..... X does [b]NOT[/b] =Y.
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"Dickhead and maybe others like you guys look at sex only as the act of sex. (Getting laid, having an orgasm)."
That is total bullshit and everyone who knows me knows this is not true. You don't [b]know[/b] any "facts" about me. We've never even mongered together. (For the record, Saint and I have met exactly one time, at a dinner where he insisted on tipping 30% of the bill, although he says he does not advocate paying more than necessary).
"Dickhead and other guys like you keep trying to say that X=Y."
That's not what I fucking said.
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More from a past experience in BA
1)Mary from Platynum $70/100. Beautiful smile, big natural hooters and two shots on goal. Viamonte 485. Wasn´t allowed to shower before or after. Must be something wrong with the shower.
No DFK and no CBJ = no repeat, could benefit from a slimmer belly. She´s from Misiones and has a three year old Nino.
In appreciation of comments "Who´s your daddy, baby": (1707 Santa Fe)
During round 1, we got into a standing Perrito, she´s on all fours on the bed and I´m standing at the corner of the bed pounding away. I startied slapping her a** and started in with "Who´s your Daddy baby?" She sorta grunted.
2) Called Annabella from Gemidos. Promised Completa, Tantrica, Relax Total. P $150/hr. CBJ and no DFK = No repeat
When I got to the place On Acachnco, near Juncal (Barrio Norte), it wasn´t Annabella that intorduced herself (bait and switch), heck she seemed cute enough anyway, so WTF and plowed ahead. The room had a straight massage table and a love seat. Clara Andrea started in with an oil massage, making sure the soldier and two drums got lenty of attention. My hands wandered freely.
After the massage Clara got on all fours on the love seat and guided my missile in. I started pounding away and started up with the ¨Who´s your Daddy/ Pappi?" routine while slapping her ass. She was responsive and acted out an orgasm. We kept on for a while and in the interest of keeping this going for a while I fought the urge to shoot. Well I should have shot, cause we ended up finishing manually.
Clara Andrea had a cute enough face, but her chest wasn´t as big as I like and her hips were big than the uniform she wore seemed to hint at.
She´ll do outcalls and is open on Sundays. A second shot on goal is an additional P$75. NO a good Dickead value.
LAGNAF
LAGNAF
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"I started slapping her a** and started in with "Who´s your Daddy baby?" - She sorta grunted"
". . . started up with the ¨Who´s your Daddy/ Pappi?" routine while slapping her ass. She was responsive and acted out an orgasm"
LotsaFun,
Based on your experiences, may I suggest you change your routine?
Just a thought . . . Peace, -P
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" tipping 30% of the bill "
I was at that dinner, and NO the tip was not 30% but 55% do to the constant attention to detail by our wonderful waiter Jose at 1880. For the record Dickhead got sick from that meal, seafood poisoning.
Regards,
Starfe
p.s. "You can't really afford that luxury when you are visiting"
now you are starting to get it Dickhead. Time is of the essence.
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Lexton ,
You live in the twilight zone. Stop dictating how and when we Tourists should spend our money. You make pointless points. Using you're negotiating tactics ( or lack of ) the only thing I will get a chance to fuck would be something I found crawling under a bridge.
Starfe
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Having returned to rainy London from sunny BA, I'm now feeling quite depressed at having to leave, and planning my next trip again!
I have to say thanks to all you guys on the BA forum, I know I didn't get a chance to meet up with any of you but the information on this forum has made my holiday an absolute stormer and I will definitely be back!
I stayed in the Loisuites in Recoleta and it was great, (and very discreet) although I think next time I may try arranging an apartment for a week or two.
And I've sampled the pleasures of Cattos, Black, Madahos, Hook, L'affaire and many more....and become a total convert to Latinas. The GFE is mindblowing!
But Argentina has so much to offer. I managed to see the falls, the Moreno Glacier, and Bariloche too, and even managed to get some mongering in in Bariloche thanks to this forum!
I'm now trying to find a way to convince my employer to open a branch in BA :-)
Anyway, I'll return to my usual spot on the London boards, until next time! Thanks again..
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I find this price discussion interesting only in so far as I am able to make out that better quality (my definition) is available at a higher price. If it does not, then the whole picture gets a little murky. If Blacks and Madahos are at one end of the spectrum and the other boliches are at the other, it will make my life a lot easier as I will know where to go shopping. I see where Lexton is going with this argument but I can't see this working as prices will equalise sooner or later, a point I was trying to make earlier. I don't see how you can "fight against this" as you are powerless against these market forces. How could you organise such an arrangement ?
Where does this leave me ? My understanding is that there is general acceptance that the chicas in Black/Madahos are better looking and are available at a higher price.
Saint/Dickhead - I think you guys are more in agreement than you realise. Both of you say that X is not = Y. Dickhead merely questions that if Y is more expensive than X, is that difference in experience really borne out in the difference in price ? From his perspective, the answer appears to be "Probably No". Saint may have a different answer. Vive la difference. This is how I understand it (IMHO).
Enjoy BsAs in your different ways. I soon hope to enjoy it in my own way. As always, I appreciate your opinions.
Cheers.
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Be careful with credit cards.
I used my credit card twice in the same night last week, once at Newport, and once at Madahos. The charges came in for those two and were accurate. However, there was also a charge for $195(dollars) for a company in London, England. All three charges came in on the same day. I never bought anything, and so the only thing I can think of is that one of the clubs added another charge. I have cancelled my card, and the charges are under investigation.
Normally I do not use credit cards just for this reason, but I did this night. This is just a warning to all to be careful out there.
I will let you know if anything is obtained about either of the clubs.
Moondog
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JackDaniels,
Maybe you are right. Also, maybe I didn't post my point "you guys look at sex only as the act of sex. (Getting laid, having an orgasm). " the best way. No offense was meant to anyone. Sometimes it's hard to express things in these posts. I only meant that the way I'm reading some posts it seems like the posters are trying to say that a session is just a session. Maybe it was a mistake reading on my part. When I read, " I think they are still getting product X, in most cases", I took it to mean that he still thinks X=Y. Maybe he didn't.
Anyway, there is a little something for everyone in Buenos Aires and ultimately THAT is what matters. I do appreciate reading everyone's opinions though. I still think as long as we aren't intentionally offending anyone with our posts. Again, no offense was meant in my post.
Also, I truly believe there is a difference between being generous and wasting money. If you get good service in a restaurant and you want to leave more than 10% that doesn't mean you are wasting money. If you are helping out someone that is working hard for a living or less fortunate than you and you think that is wasting money then that would also defeat the whole purpose of things like charities...
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I talked with Chad, the doorman who used to be at Hippopotamus, and now is the doorman right next door. he said that Hippo was supposed to open in about a month in the same venue as it was before.
Moondog