You know not of what you speak
[QUOTE=Esten]Her defense of Limbaugh's use of the word 'retard' (after attacking Rahm Emanuel) absolutely defies all logic. Examples like this further raise questions as to her intelligence and substance. [/QUOTE]Did you hear what Limbaugh actually said? Were you listening? Did you see the Palin interview and actually hear what she said? My guess is that you heard it third hand and took the POV of the source. I happen to hear both live and there is absolutely no inconsistency in her stance nor did Limbaugh say or do anything wrong, unless satirizing corrupt government officials is now illegal.
Did you listen to Limbaugh's entire show?
[QUOTE=Esten]I saw the videos. Both Emanuel and Limbaugh used the "R" word did they not? Did you read Palin's Facebook letter? She described Emanuel's remark as a "slur on all God's children with cognitive and developmental disabilities". Just as bad as the "N" word. And said she wanted her child to grow up in a country "free from gratuitous insults". I'm not bothered by the R word, but it defies logic how Palin can give Limbaugh a pass here.
According to Palin, when Limbaugh uses the R word on national radio, it's satire. When Emanuel uses it in a private meeting, it's demeaning. ROTFLMAO!
Palin's whole "Brand" is being authentic and real. I wonder if she really has the guts to stand up for what she believes in.[/QUOTE]He set up the lampoon / satire early and used it often. It was and is all about Emanuel. It is just like whenever he or anyone on the right points out something someone on the left said, the left attacks the messenger and accuses him / her of the slur. It is like little kids. One kid calls another one "stupid" (or uses another banned word) the aggrieved kid goes crying to mom "he said stupid" and the other kid says "but he just said 'stupid'" in an attempt to avoid responsibility for his prior statement.
Steve: Do you really think I had to cherry-pick Obama's statements? As for 'longing' to seize private property. It is a matter of fact, since he has done it with GM and Chrysler. Why not ask the bondholders (whose UCC claims ranked higher than those of the unions) how they wound up being subordinated to the unions? By the way, the 'bondholders' included lots and lots of little people. However, the proletariat pure-play was to give the companies to the unions, that way they could avoid giving it to anyone in the "investor class" (except of course those elitists that run the unions to their enrichment and the detriment of their members)
We'll have to agree to disagree
At least on Limbaugh's satire which was completely appropriate given both Emanuel and Palin's comments, which occurred before his show.
As for starting the whine-fest, I agree that this particular episode was brought to life by Palin (because no one else would draw attention to it) It is perfectly appropriate for Palin to call out Emanuel on this subject. The problem here is that while the right holds its own to certain standards, there are no standards for the left.
The left specializes in feigned outrage when anyone on the right says anything that is either inappropriate or can be stretched to look like something inappropriate. Allen, Lott, and Limbaugh are just a few targets. However, when someone on the left says something, it is glossed over. Recent examples include Harry Reid using the 'Negro' when discussing the president and Emanuel using the term f-ing retards (albeit when referring to a group of f-ing retards)
Opposition to Obama's candidacy and opposing anything Obama proposes is racist, even if you do so tacitly. Therefore, I guess we can't oppose anything. However, the left can operate with impunity because they are not held to any standards.
That said, is it appropriate for him to be fired for saying that? I don't know. George Allen was barred from office from saying "macahcah" which was a meaningless made up word, until given meaning by the left. A former republican speaker of the house had to give up his position because he toasted some old geezer at a birthday party saying that it would have been great for the geezer to have been elected president way back when. No one, even the left and the media (guess that is redundant) believed that Lott was endorsing segregation (he probably didn't even recall that the geezer was a former segregationist--at least he wasn't a grand wizard of the KKK like Bird (d. West Virginia)
It's been a while since I read this thread
Are you "retards" still yapping about the "left" and "right?"
Not sure where you guys are from, but I can guarantee that you haven't encountered many real Marxists / Leftists in your lives.
WW, I do have to admit you made me laugh with the Obama Marxist comments. It almost appear like you actually read Das Kaptial. I'm sure you just googled it, though.
Anytime you are in BsAs, let me know. We can sit down with a couple of beers and discuss it as much as you can stand. Owning the book and talking out your ass may not get you very far, though.
The Left takes a pass everytime
While I have to agree the Right is beginning to be as bad as the Left when it comes to becoming indignant about certain "banned" words, the Left has always taken a pass on punishment or resignations of positions or office over such transgressions while the Right seems to always fall on their own swords like good soldiers – ie Trent Lott and Newt Gringrich et al.
Barney Frank is a great example, bending over pages while his "housemate" ran a male prostitution business out of Frank's house - Barney claimed he had no idea and was shocked – yea right!
How about the departed John Murtha who was captured on ABSCAM video turning down a bribe but alluding to doing business for more money at a later date not to mention all his bombast against American soldiers in the field pronouncing them murders or women and children without so much as a scrap of truth then refusing to even apologize when proven wrong.
Then there Cris Dodd and his sweetheart deal with Countywide for financing his properties – you know the documents he pledged to make public nearly two years ago but those papers have never seen the light of day.
The grand lizard of the KKK has already been mentioned, but the list goes on and on. Typically the Left howls for blood at some verbal transgression and the Right just surrenders, but when the Right howls for blood the Left just says well "I was taken out of context", "that's not what I meant", "I should have chosen a better word" and the list goes on for excuses when the real response from the Left is "So What!" Or as they say in Poland – Tough Shitisky!