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I am surprised you guys who live in BA are paying at all.
I go 2-3 times a year, and I still call some of the Platynum and Madaho's girls I met 2-3 yrs ago, some of whom are now students, normal workers, etc. They are delighted to hear from me and come right over and don't ask for anything, altho I always make a point of bringing a nice present for them and taking them out for a nice dinner. Oddly, for example, there is no equivalent of See's candies in Argentina, and the girls go WILD for a box of chocolates!
I also bought a calling card and call my "amigas" from several countries from the USA for 5 cents a minute on their birthdays, etc., and often I time my trips for their school vacations, and we end up going to Bariloche or Iguazzu, etc. and similar places in other countries, without any direct payment.
I am quite wealthy and have no reason to be a cheapskate, but I am also not a young stud, but i have found that a little bit of attention and niceness goes a long way!
I have also charmed the pants off some of the restaurant girls who work the Recoleta sidewalk, altho this is fairly difficult.
Of course, I am no Price Charming, and the first time with any working girl I pay the going rate. In the meantime, in the pure P4P department, I got a little backwoods cutie in a small town in Nicaragua last year for $4 USD. Hard to beat that!
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" bring a nice present for them "
Me to. On my next trip down in Nov I am bringing some girls pearl necklaces and others double eagle gold coins. I also get a lot of free sex by giving gifts instead of cash. We seem to think alike. Thank God gold closed at $412.80 down .70 cents. I only need to buy 15 1oz coins. Its a lot cheaper in the long run.
Starfe
aka ( young stud )
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Guys,
I've been reading this forum for a while now and am finally heading down to what seems to be Paradise. Going to do a Rio/Buenos Aires taste test.
I'm a little bit anal - so I've been trying to compile a list of the apartments in BA, along with some girl names and prices. I haven't finished going back through the whole thread, but here is what I have so far.
Please either post or send me more info (or corrected info if I have any of this wrong). I hope compiling this isn't a breach of etiquette.
Suipacha 921
2 girls/100P for 40Min
Cara
Corrientes 1965 13A (30p-30Min)(50P/1hr)
Lorena, Nicole, Daniela, Cynthia, Candela (70P)
70P
Santa Fe 3373 5C
Tamara (40P)
429 Maipu piso 5 (Maipu and Corrientes) (100p)
Sophia
1707 Santa Fe (120P – 2/300P – 80P/45Min)
Joana, Fernanda
Rivadavia 1929
Sarmiento 1828 (30P/30Min – 40P/hour)
Maira and Karen
Laprida 947
Guemes 3221 (100p)
Arenales, 2463 -(30P/1hr/special)
Florencia, Daniela
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Greta from Estilo Nuevo
Starfe wanted to nail a very famous girl from Estilo Nuevo Called Greta (famous for gringos and locals alike). She's REALLY cute, but at the outside (she behaves like a way-too-high stuck-up b*tch, which is a reason for not doing anything with her). In any case, she is movie-star material.
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The famous issue of prices
I read all arguments and I agree with all of them. Why do I have such cheap politician mindset? Because I guess that this issue is SO complex and SO personal that it is impossible to say "you paid ar$300, so you are a sucker" or "you paid ar$50, so you are a cheapo looking for ugly, stinky women with no teeth".
Time constraints, trust, looks, previous experiences, etc, all impact the monger's assessment of the supply side. Perhaps for a long-term resident in BA who knows the ropes and had previous experience in Flores (and liked that qualiity), paying ar$300-500 for a girl in Black or Madahos is ridiculous, but not for others.
In fact, in my future visits to BA, if I come with big money I would visit Flores a couple of times and Madahos as well, especially if I have few nights. However, I may visit more the Triangle because you find girls there with nice looks (as good as in Recoleta) and less clockwatch attitude (in average) than at Recoleta. As usual, based on my personal views and experiences.
Hope this helps,
Andres
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Could we let Andres have the last word on this, or must we continue to flog this dead horse?
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On 10/4, Saint wrote:
"Two totally different classes of girls. There might be a rare girl that works in both Black and another lower tier club but it is very few and far between."
(I wish I could find how to use the "quote" function on here. Someone clue me in please.)
I must respectfully disagree. I guess if one doesn't spend much time in the "lower tier" clubs, one really wouldn't know who they might find there.
I posted a snapshot in the Photo Gallery of two girls, Gimena and Marcela, that I took out of Exedra one afternoon about 5 PM. They told me that they work at Madahos and charge $300AR per hour, each. I am sure that they said this to establish a premium price in my mind.
However, I practiced a little "monger jujitsu," turning their own strength against them.
"Excellent, then this isn't your real income for the night. You can accept something less and feel great! You'll know that you already have money in your pocket before you even go in to work tonight!"
Negotiations went pleasantly, and they agreed to $150AR each. Of course, I didn't have any cover charge to pay or chica drinks to buy, either.
Just four pesos for a cafe con leche. But I did leave a 25% tip - I'm not cheap!
Much of the debate here is theoretical and philosophical in nature. By am am just reporting the facts. These two girls became my reality.
I normally don't do twosomes, as it seems like a lot of overkill to achieve the same result, but my redhead really wanted her blonde friend along, and I decided it would be a nice experience.
The blonde actually had the friendlier attitude and definitely added a lot to the session. They understood the meaning of teamwork. This Madahos girl two-for-one special worked out great.
I don't believe I would have ever been able to get that price if I hadn't been willing to troll in a "lower tier" cafe.
Meaning, that I would have never ended up enjoying these two chicas at all.
DB
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I vote we let Andres have the last word. There is no right answer, what strikes me as odd is the tone of the posts. One pays to much and is an asshole and the other likes to fuck ugly chicks, I suspect neither is the truth. To each his own.
Back to the pussy. Has anybody ever sessioned with Yaninna from Area VIP? She is also Nuria at Gemidos. I'll be back in three weeks, personally I hope to monger with both Saint and Dickhead, should be an interesting contrast. Dickhead I still owe you two beers and a couple potato's (alternate Republican spelling potatoes)
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I agree. Let's let this thing die with Andres post.
Dodger Bulldog, you are actually wrong with your post though. I do spend time in all the other clubs. I constantly have friends in town that want to try the other clubs so it's inevidible that I'll end up in some of those clubs to check the talent out. I've been in lots of clubs around Buenos Aires so don't assume I just hang out in Black and Madahos. That isn't true. I've been to BA more times than most Americans that I know with the exception of guys like Jackson and a few other guys.
As far as those two girls that told you they work at Madahos. Just because they might work there doensn't mean anything. I see lots of ugly girls working at Black and Madahos that don't make any money night after night. They might ask for 300 pesos but I doubt they consistently get it. Maybe they played a little "hooker jujitsu" on you too.
I'm not saying there isn't some quality in the other clubs and either is anyone else. Most of us don't have a problem with anyone paying as little as they want for a girl we don't find attractive. The biggest problem we have is when guys come on here dictating that the rest of us are idiots for doing it.
Let's drop this whole price issue. As long as we are all having fun.
Saint
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Saint, I guess you took some offense. It wasn't intended.
If you can lump those two chicas in the photo with your comment on "ugly" girls, I guess we can only say to each his own.
I guess that everyone can take a look and judge for himself.
They sure turned my ass on.
DB
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I can think of only a few regular posters on this forum who *can* leave it alone. Everyone has to be, "Can't we just leave it alone". It will take days before everyone is bored enough, or forgets enough to let it lie.
Everyone has different tastes. I hate it when guys pay $300 an hour for a $100 girl. To me it just muddies the water. However, I've posted on it way too many times to add anything new to this old discussion.
As we've learned, posting "Mission Accomplished" too early has very bad effects.
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I vote for more horse-flogging!!!
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So long as some people here continue to criticize others for drilling anything that costs more than 150 pesos, I am with you, Chup! ;) We don't all want to swim in the ditch and live like the Latino Beverly Hillbillies when we go on vacation! :D (If you want to do that, more power to you - but please don't whack on me and the many others who don't share your preferences!)
Uncle Otto
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I am a newbie to Argentina, been traveling to Asia , I want strictly blondes , thin, and 18 -25, what country is best and how do I elimanate looking at dozens before I get what I want, price is an object but I am willing to splurge (200 all night max ) to get what I want. I usually go for one month. I appreciate any imput from more experienced mongers
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Apologies for interrupting the flogging, but could somebody confirm the address of Rio Cabana as Cordoba 4950? This place is open during the day isnt it?
Also...I read somewhere on the board of a boliche called L'Prive....is the address of that Av.San Martin 6101?
many thanks
MH.
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Rio Cabana is near 5000 Cordoba near Cordoba and Cerrano. Something helpful to note is once you become a client there they will let you call a girl and pull her out without even going there if you know her name. The atmosphere is to be desired if you like a party environment there but as I've posted before, it's not a place you go to spend hours and hours. Usually it's good for a quick drink then to pull a girl out. It is nice there because it's not smoky and quite with decent lighting so you can actually have a conversation with the girl. Be careful though to specify that you want to take them back to your apartment. I thought it was a given but one time this girl thought I just wanted to take her to some short term hotel they use down the street. She came out in her jacket and her skimpy little outfit but I didn't notice till we got in the car since her jacket was covering her clothes.
Dodger Bulldog, totally no offense taken. I just wanted to correct you when you said that I don't hit the other lower-tier clubs. I've hit them several times. I've hit some places that most on the board probably have never been to. My funniest experience in BA is still when my buddies Kickstand and UWPhoto and I went to this club in the middle of nowhere. At first they let us in then they kicked us out. My amigos were pulling me out by the arm since I was sitting there arguing with the doorman. Oh well. Lots of good times here in BA. And no, I wasn't saying your girls were ugly. I only meant to say that several girls told me they also worked at Black, Madaho, whatever club. Just because they tell me that I don't necessarily believe them.
Totally take where they work out of the equation. A line like, "I also work at Black", shouldn't make them more valuable just on those words alone. Pay what you think a girl is worth and if she is too expensive or asking too much just pass. I do it all the time. Just don't pass judgement on everyone else. I think Slick1 made an excellent point when he said that the hot girls take a lesson from all you paying some of these other girls 150 pesos. I agree with Jackson and others when they say there is no correlation on price and performance. However, I would say that a truly beautiful model type usually will cost more.
Have fun fellas.
