2012 Elections in the USA

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 427254]Or did your family get into the USA Like Romney's Dad Did? Illegally?

[url]http://www.maritimeheritage.org/[/url][/QUOTE]Yeah, right, and Obama was born in Kenya too.

[QUOTE=Wild Walleye; 427243]I said positive, not brazen, extraconstitutional national appropriation of private property.

Obama had as much to do with killing Bin Laden as did George Bush. Your point?

Killing people, completely devoid of legal finding, is now a liberal call to arms?

What? I think that the heat is getting to you. Nice try, though.[/QUOTE]I guarantee you that the vast majority of registered voters in the United States agree that the accomplishments I credited to Obama are in fact successes. How many registered voters do you honestly believe would have preferred GM and Chrysler to be liquidated, US soldiers to still be getting slaughtered in a hopeless war in Iraq, and various dangerous Al-Qaeda figures including OBL to still be alive? The OBL killing came under Obama's command and Obama made the call to go forward with the operation; George Bush never came close to even locating OBL during his two terms of mis-administration.

[QUOTE=Wild Walleye;427243]Obama had as much to do with killing Bin Laden as did George Bush. Your point?[/QUOTE]Amongst the lies and nonsensical steaming piles of bullshit that the right wing has attempted to foist on the American public, this is the largest and stinkiest of all.

I wonder if the poster is even genuinely stupid enough to believe it, rather than simply being disingenuous. But in actual fact, Bush thoroughly de-emphasized this mission, and Obama re-emphasized it, and had the guts to make the call to go forward, against the advice of several senior advisors, including Gates and Biden.

[QUOTE=Wild Walleye; 427246]I will never say a word in anger towards WT (considering the ear-to-ear sh*t-eating-grins he has enabled) , however, I would like to point out there is very little chance that racial preference played no role in getting a black stoner from Occidental to Columbia and then on the Harvard.

In every room he enters, Obama is the least qualified person present.[/QUOTE]Nobody who has ever not been qualified has become the President of the Harvard Law Review. I find it amusing that Wild Walleye is passing judgment upon the qualifications of someone who is quite obviously VASTLY more intelligent and vastly more accomplished than Wild Walleye is.

Affirmative action might have gotten Obama into Columbia, but from that point on, he achieved academic honors at Columbia, and becoming President of Harvard Law Review speaks for itself as an earned accomplishment for all but the most obtuse and denial-ridden amongst us. Oh, then he wrote two best-selling books, and got elected to Congress, the Senate, and the Presidency. They don't have affirmative action for those things.

[QUOTE=El Alamo;427214]"Trickle down government" that about says it all. Explains why we are all hurting. Government is not the answer to our problems. Government is the problem.[/QUOTE]That was quick, don't you have anything better to do? I don't believe you or I are hurting at all. We are the ones who is better off than 4 years ago. My mutual funds have made a comeback I could never dreamed of. But it still hurts to pay $3-4 at Starbucks! And why is there a tip box at every damn counter? Worse, it has spread all over the world.

Govenment is not really the problem, just BAD govenment.

I have heard all the excuses: Obama had an off night, Obama was playing rope a dope, Obama was preoccupied because he had not attended a national security meeting in 3 years. Let's face it. That was as good as Obama gets. Exactly in line with his performances in the 2008 Democratic primary debates and the 2008 presidential debates.

I will go a step farther. If Obama had debated McCain Wednesday night, his preformance would not have raised eyebrows. In fact, the media would have called Obama the winner. Unfortuneately for Obama, Romney was Obama´s opponent and comparing Obama aka Pee Wee Herman, Alfred E Newmann to Romney aka Babe Ruth, Jimmy Fox, Lou Gehrig is ludicrous.

Lets face facts. Obama is a fraud, a fake, a huckster and an intellectual midget. The only people more naive and shallow than Obama are the pathetic losers who cannot see Obama for what he is. A fake and a fraud and above all, dime store huckster.

[QUOTE=Member #2041;427264]Affirmative action might have gotten Obama into Columbia, but from that point on, he achieved academic honors at Columbia, and becoming President of Harvard Law Review speaks for itself as an earned accomplishment for all but the most obtuse and denial-ridden amongst us.[/QUOTE]I guess we'll never really know exactly how academically accomplished Obama really is because...

1. Occidental College records - SEALED
2. Columbia college records - SEALED
3. Columbia thesis paper - SEALED
4. Harvard college records - SEALED
5. Selective Service registration - SEALED
6. Medical records - SEALED
7. Illinois state senate schedule - SEALED
8. Illinois state senate records - SEALED
9. Law practice client list - SEALED
10. Certified copy of original birth certificate - SEALED
11. Signed, embossed paper certification of live birth - SEALED
12. Baptism record - SEALED

...and why is it that we've never heard from anybody who remembers Obama from his college days?

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=SnakeOilSales;427262]I guarantee you that the vast majority of registered voters in the United States agree that the accomplishments I credited to Obama are in fact successes. How many registered voters do you honestly believe would have preferred GM and Chrysler to be liquidated,[/quote]Anyone dim enough to think that a company with $147B in LTM revenues and sitting on $13B in cash is going to be liquidated as opposed to reorganized is dim enough to believe that Romney is planning to cut taxes for the rich to the tune of $5T (or 5 times the total individual tax revenues collected by the govt for the year 2011). If Romney cut 100% of the taxes paid by the "rich" (top 1%) , it would take 13 years for that to amount to $5T. Obama is like an insolent child spewing BS on the playground.

[quote=]US soldiers to still be getting slaughtered in a hopeless war in Iraq, and various dangerous Al-Qaeda figures including OBL to still be alive? The OBL killing came under Obama's command and Obama made the call to go forward with the operation; George Bush never came close to even locating OBL during his two terms of mis-administration.[/QUOTE]If you check the record, I commended Obama for going through with the strike to take out OBL. If you think anyone in that position could chose a different decision, I am all ears (as opposed to just having big dumbo-ears).

[QUOTE=Member #2041; 427263]Amongst the lies and nonsensical steaming piles of bullshit that the right wing has attempted to foist on the American public, this is the largest and stinkiest of all.

I wonder if the poster is even genuinely stupid enough to believe it, rather than simply being disingenuous. But in actual fact, Bush thoroughly de-emphasized this mission, and Obama re-emphasized it, and had the guts to make the call to go forward, against the advice of several senior advisors, including Gates and Biden.[/QUOTE]See prior post (hint: "prior" means preceding).

[QUOTE=Member #2041;427264]Nobody who has ever not been qualified has become the President of the Harvard Law Review.[/quote]Upon what, do you base that ridiculous statement? Maybe you could restate it in English.

[quote=]I find it amusing that Wild Walleye is passing judgment upon the qualifications of someone who is quite obviously VASTLY more intelligent and vastly more accomplished than Wild Walleye is.[/quote]I can assure you that my academic achievements equal, if not surpass, those of our glorious leader. I managed to graduate from excellent schools in spite of being discriminated against (for admissions) , due to the color of my skin and geographic proximity of my birthplace.

[quote=]Affirmative action might have gotten Obama into Columbia, but from that point on, he achieved academic honors at Columbia, and becoming President of Harvard Law Review speaks for itself as an earned accomplishment for all but the most obtuse and denial-ridden amongst us.[/quote]I doubt you had similar comments to make about GWB getting his MBA at Harvard. All but the most obtuse understand when you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.

[quote=]Oh, then he wrote two best-selling books,[/quote]Not sure how much "writing" he did. As it turns out, the books, allegedly authored by Obama, were misidentified as nonfiction.

[quote=]and got elected to Congress, the Senate, and the Presidency.[/quote]Running unopposed in all three (when you take into consideration how weak a candidate McCain was).

[quote=]They don't have affirmative action for those things.[/QUOTE]How's the Cool Aid, this morning? Do you really think that Obama hasn't received preferential treatment in part due to his race, over the past four years? Have you picked up a newspaper, recently?

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;427255]Sounds You Are Loaded![/QUOTE]Do you mean to say that I needed to be drunk to think that Obama received preferential treatment or drunk to state it publicly?

To ignore the history of racial preferences in the USA is to ignore the facts. I have never faulted Obama, or anyone else for that matter, for availing himself of the opportunities that were available to him. In fact, I have stated that exact sentiment many times. I also do not feel that the fact that someone gained an educational advantage over others, based upon racial discrimination, diminishes their ultimate accomplishments. However, it is intellectually dishonest and disingenuous to tout one's achievements on an apples-to-apples basis when one has been held to a different standard.

As far as Obama being a pot-smoking slacker, that is the self portrait he drew in one of the books that he allegedly authored.

Just for the record, believing and/or stating that Obama received preferential treatment, in part due to his race, is no different from the claims that GWB received preferential treatment because of who his daddy is.

When I was accepted by the institution (truck driving academy), where I did most of my undergraduate work (except the time I spent studying at an old, stuffy place on the banks for the Charles River), it was a well known fact that white, American-born males had to have better SAT scores and transcripts than did folks that were not white, American-born males. That is just the way it was. There wasn't anything that I could have done about it (life isn't always fair), so I accepted it and moved on. I probably haven't thought about it more than a couple times over the past 25 years.

I guess they opened them for Russ. Because he says he knows what Obama grades were.

[QUOTE=Jackson; 427270]I guess we'll never really know exactly how academically accomplished Obama really is because.

1. Occidental College records. SEALED.

2. Columbia college records. SEALED.

3. Columbia thesis paper. SEALED.

4. Harvard college records. SEALED.

5. Selective Service registration. SEALED.

6. Medical records. SEALED.

7. Illinois state senate schedule. SEALED.

8. Illinois state senate records. SEALED.

9. Law practice client list. SEALED.

10. Certified copy of original birth certificate. SEALED.

11. Signed, embossed paper certification of live birth. SEALED.

12. Baptism record. SEALED.

And why is it that we've never heard from anybody who remembers Obama from his college days?

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member #2041;427264]I find it amusing that Wild Walleye is passing judgment upon the qualifications of someone who is quite obviously VASTLY more intelligent and vastly more accomplished than Wild Walleye is.[/QUOTE]Hitler, Stalin, Jimmy Carter and Warren Harding were all intelligent and accomplished in their own special ways. I'd vote for Walleye over Obama anyday. Actually, I might just do that. I was debating between Romney and Gary Johnson, but maybe I'll do a write-in instead. Wild Walleye for President!

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;427282]I guess they opened them for Russ. Because he says he knows what Obama grades were.[/QUOTE]I have been telling you for months what Obama's grades were. Acumulative 1. 57 GPA with numerous stents on academic probation for lack of academic achievment (read lack of intelligence)

And the biggest hoax is that Obama claims he was cumma sum laude or some similar nonsense at Harvard. The best thing Obama's professors could say about Obama at Harvard was that when Obama quit selling drugs and quit using drugs Obama was able to raise his academic standard to D level.

Wow! I always thought I was just lucky. Now I get it. I wasn't lucky. I made my money off the stupidity of others. And in this world there is nobody as stupid as an Obama supporter. It takes an unique and total lack of intelligence to fall for a transpàrent fraude, fake and huckster such as Obama.

[QUOTE=Wild Walleye;427274]Upon what, do you base that ridiculous statement? Maybe you could restate it in English.[/QUOTE]

That was English, although I might concede that it was English beyond your level of comprehension. Sorry, I can't do much about that.

[QUOTE=Wild Walleye; 427274]

I can assure you that my academic achievements equal, if not surpass, those of our glorious leader. I managed to graduate from excellent schools in spite of being discriminated against (for admissions) , due to the color of my skin and geographic proximity of my birthplace.

I doubt you had similar comments to make about GWB getting his MBA at Harvard. All but the most obtuse understand when you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Not sure how much "writing" he did. As it turns out, the books, allegedly authored by Obama, were misidentified as nonfiction.

Running unopposed in all three (when you take into consideration how weak a candidate McCain was).

How's the Cool Aid, this morning? Do you really think that Obama hasn't received preferential treatment in part due to his race, over the past four years? Have you picked up a newspaper, recently?[/QUOTE]As I said, I acknowledge that Obama likely got into Columbia via affirmative action. But he then did earn academic honors at Columbia. Even rich white folks who earn academic honors at Columbia can likely get into Harvard Law on that credential. That being said, unless they are damn accomplished in their studies once they get there, they don't become President of Harvard Law Review.

Getting into Harvard's MBA program is roughly 2-3 orders of magnitude lesser of an exclusive accomplishment than getting appointed President of Harvard Law Review. Even for someone who probably earned it like Mitt Romney (as opposed to legacy entrees like Dubya). I personally got into Harvard's MBA program, without a rich legacy entree that G. W. Bush had, although I personally chose to attend a more quantitatively rigorous program, one in which I doubt that Dubya could have handled the higher level math.