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Dodger Bulldog said
[quote](I wish I could find how to use the "quote" function on here. Someone clue me in please.)[/quote]
1. Open brackets, type the word quote, close brackets.
2. Copy your text that you want to quote, and paste it immediately after the closed bracket, no space in between the bracket and the first letter of your quote.
3. At the end of your quote, open brackets, type /quote, and close the brackets. Again, no space between the last letter or punctuation of your quote and the brackets.
This will show up in the preview if you have done it right.
Enjoy the life,
Moondog
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I agree that when dealing with a WG for the first time, NEVER ask what the price is. Once she tells you a price, Latin pride will prevent her from discounting herrself too much. I always STATE the price, and I phrase it as a present: "Puedo darte un regalo de cien pesos por la noche", "I can give you a present of 100 pesos for the night". Then SHE can make a counter-offer, but at least she knows you know the ballpark figure.
My experience in 50+ countries is, if you blunder in and ask "How Much?" especially if you ask in English, she might as well assume you are fresh off the boat, have no idea what the going rate is, and she might as well ask for $300 USD just in case you are a moron. Once she does that, she loses face if she comes down a lot, and you make her feel like a clearance bin item when you come back low. Of course I am extremely handsome and charming, so if you are not, YMMV.
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Saint wrote:
"I always dress really nice but it doesn't hurt my negotiating skills."
How do you [b]know[/b] it doesn't if you [i]always[/i] do it?
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I've been reading the BA board regularly for the past month in preparation for my trip this week. In between searches for "real" info, I couldn't help but notice the latest brou-ha-ha over pricing.
This time, there is a different spin on the argument, which is due to the fact that the character of our membership has changed somewhat. Over the past year, some of the regular posters on the BA board have actually have taken up residence there and become local hombres, and as a result, they have a different perspective than we touristas. Of course, there have always been local hombres, but we never thought/cared much about them since they don't speak English or post on our board.
But now they have their own advocates on the WSG and they are giving us some valuable insights. I tend to agree with Andres that we all have a moral/ethical responsibility (dare I say honor among mongers?) to not abuse the information that is posted here in good faith. If Andres turns us on to a new club, with cute chicas who privide good service for 60 pesos, don't spoil it for him, and everyone else by, by walking in and throwing your money around. Stick to the guidelines that he's given us.
I also agree with Lexton that education is the key. Information is power, and the more info we have about prices and services, the better off we will be, assuming that we use it in good faith.
But I think that the local mongers need to remember some things as well. We were all, at some point, newbies in BA, except of course for Andres. Time and familiarity always tend to dull the senses, but if you go back and read some of Lexton's first posts, you will see that he spent his first days in BA at Black, of all places, lusting after some hottie that just happened to ring his bell, agonizing over how to get her down from 300 pesos to 200. And if you look back to the Winter/Spring of 2002/2003, you will see that on his first visit(s) to BA, even our own indefatigable Dickhead was expressing a certain, how shall I say.... boyish exuberance?
Don't fault us first timers, or occassional tourists, for overspending, we can't help it. When you live in a desert and you reach the oasis, all you want to do is drink and drink. I have to admit, I overspent on my first trip, but, thanks to the information posted on this board, I spent a hell of a lot less than I would have without it. And had a much better time doing so.
I can understand the concern on the part of the local mongers that we touristas may poison their favorite fishing hole, but I think their fears are exaggerated. As locals, they have a tremendous advantage. They have the time to acquire a very deep and specific knowledge of the market that we touristas will never have. They have the time to cultivate relationships with the chicas that enable them to negotiate prices far below what most of us occassional tourists will spend. I don't have 2 months to ogle some chica at NEB, waiting for that critical moment when she and I will consummate our lust for each other. I've only got 5 days, and if an extra 50 pesos facilitates the transaction, then it's money well spent, as far as I'm concerned.
Even with all the excellent information posted here, there is a limit to the scope of it's effectiveness. You can only educate the people who read this forum. But it's not just we happy few who are affecting the marketplace. The whole world is beating a path to Argentina. As Saint has pointed out, the whole country is on sale, and tourism should be a big business for some time. The Japanese businessman sitting in Black, with his corporate expense account, won't give a rat's ass about the inflated cost of sex, nor will the gaggle of Australian tourists in NEB. No matter how carefully we may follow the advice posted here, inflation is inevitable, to some extent.
What seems to be happening is that a multi-tiered market will develop. The guys with more money than they know what to do with will spend their time in Recoleta. The value conscious can patronize the private apartments or the clubs in the Triangle (where you can probably find the same chicas that you would in Recolta), and if you're really strapped for cash, a good time can be had in Flores. Fortunately, the market in BA is vast enough to encompass the whole range of tastes and budgets.
From what Dickhead reports, the chicas understand this. He knows a chica who can make 200 or 300 pesos at Madahos, but she understands that she will make less if she works at Cattos or Hooks. Or the chicas that Dodger Bulldog pulled out of Excedra for 150, who were on their way to Madahos to work for probably twice that. So the extra money that we occassional touristas may spend will have a minimal effect on the prices that the local hombres pay.
As far as the issue of price versus quality is concerned, I think you will never figure that one out. Obviously, you cannot quantify it. Women are not things, they are human beings, sentient and intelligent (yeah, I know, we can argue about that ad infinitum). Sex is not a commodity, or a product, it's more like a kind of . . . chemical reaction. And like all chemical reactions, tends to be unpredictable. Affected by numerous external forces, many of which are unknown, even at the moment of combustion.
Isn't that the whole point?
So let's stop belittling each other over our choices in women. It serves no purpose. We each get what we want and what we pay for. Value, like beauty, is in the eye of the customer.
So I promise to do my best to do my duty to my fellow mongers and adhere to the pricing guidelines that are posted for known providers and venues, in good faith, if the local mongers will promise to forgive me my inevitable transgressions, since we are all weak and fragile creatures. De Profundus, klamave, klamave. . .
Hope I haven't offended anyone too much. Here's hoping/assuming that I'll see some of you this Saturday at the Mansion.
Guillermo
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Great posting Dickhead
I realise the importance of knowing some spanish now. My trip would have been 5 times better if I could communicate more than the basics.
I must say that being well groomed and treating the girls nicely, smiling and making eye contact worked really well in my favour despite my language barrier....OK I know I was paying reasonably well but they didn't know that until later in the evening. I took a lot of time to keep them happy in bed (the language of lurve is universal baby!) and one of them refused to take a tip, said she should be paying me, and wanted to show me around the next day for free, and she was from Black!
Obviously while that gave my ego a nice fluffing, it also highlighted to me the fact that being nice can improve your experience significantly...as someone said earlier, if you want a GFE, offer a BFE.
I'd like to add another point, which many of us from the British Isles (and Ireland too) tend to forget, usually due to force of habit (trying to beat the last orders bell at 11pm) which is: DON'T get absolutely shitfaced on the local brew! It affects your desirability (no chick wants to end up with a slobbering, staggering wreck) and your negotiating skills (aptly demonstrated by myself in Stringfellows in London).
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[quote]Originally posted by Dickhead
Saint wrote:
"I always dress really nice but it doesn't hurt my negotiating skills."
How do you know it doesn't if you always do it?
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You're now going to lecture us on our attire?
Stick to talking about cheap pussy before I set Calvin Klein on ya! ;)
Uncle Otto
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I am pointing out a logical flaw in his argument, not discussing haberdashery. My wardrobe looks like it was dumped out of a vacuum cleaner bag so I am not offering fashion tips.
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[b]Best pussy in Buenos Aires[/b]
Stratified by price category:
<50 pesos
1) Sarmiento 1828 #1A
2) Santa Fe 3373 #5C (half hour only; 1 hour is 70).
3) Corrientes 1965 #13A
>= 50 pesos <100 pesos
1) María of Florida
2) Maipú 429 [b]if [/b] you threaten to walk out; otherwise 100 p
3) Yesica from Hook [b]if[/b] you feed her dinner; otherwise 100 p
100 p
1) Guemes 3221 #2A
1) Suipacha 921 #6C {tied}
>100 <150
1) Lorena from Ness
2) Rafaela from Catto's
3) Cristina from Catto's
Honorable mention:
Rosa María from Catto's
Sandra from Hook (not currently available)
>150 <200
1) Antonela from Nuevo Estilo (150 plus room)
2) See #1 above; nothing else compares (note: has put on weight)
>200
How the fuck would [b]I[/b] know? :)
Hope that helps.
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HOW TO BE IRRESTISTABLE TO WOMEN:
When I take newbies around BA they often ask:
What should I wear?
I take a 100 peso note out of my pocket, lick the back of it, and stick it to my forehead and say:
You can go naked as long as you wear this!
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Dickhead said:
[quote]My wardrobe looks like it was dumped out of a vacuum cleaner bag so I am not offering fashion tips.[/quote]
Just practicing the "quote" function that Moondog taught me. Thanks, guy!
DB
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Dodger Bulldog said
[quote]Just practicing the "quote" function that Moondog taught me. Thanks, guy![/quote]Me too
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Guillermo,
Excellent post.
Dodger Bulldog,
You are most welcome.
Moondog
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Hey Dickhead,
Thanks for the 15 point list on how to succeed without really trying. Of course, I am sure point #15 is probably the MOST important to getting that special chica. I was LMAO when I read point 15.
Stowe
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Love Letter to Evie
How about a chica review for a change?
I've been meaning to share this one for a while.
It turns out that the last girl I hooked up with on my trip turned in the best performance of all.
Her name is Evie and she is a 34. A cute, pleasant blonde with an incredible attitude and a great body. She was very sweet.
I had talked to her one evening at Cafe Orleans but already had plans for dinner at Jackson's house that night.
So I was pleased to find her again on Sunday (only three girls were there) and chose her for my goodbye kiss to Argentina.
Large firm tits, well-toned abs, tight little ass. Her face is her weakest link, but it's still quite good.
To call her a GFE is not to do her justice.
Actually, I would describe it much more like a "fiance" experience. The way that one treats you just after she has decided to make you the happiest man in the world!
Deep, soft, sensual French kisses without end. Submissive to my every desire, but so in sync that I rarely had to ask.
She knew just when and where I lusted for her to put her mouth and hands. And exactly what to do with them.
She licked and sucked my nipples and stroked and fondled my balls in the most gentle, tender manner, for as long as I wished.
She knew just how to make me crave her all the more.
Then I introduced her to the pocket rocket, which made her come. Of course.
But she was sweet enough to say that she preferred to have me inside of her.
After several different positions of sex, we finished with mish.
Somehow she sensed that I loved to have her ankles up over my shoulders while her thighs pressed my sides and her hands stroked my chest and nipples, while bringing me to a perfect finish.
There is no such thing as a bad orgasm, but Evie was so good that she brought about one of those rare finishes that one dreams about.
Totally unrushed. We spent about two hours bonding sexually.
After that it was easy to speak intimately about our lives with each other for another hour.
She asked for $200 AR, and came down to $150.
Evie is a real sweet, sexy, passionate chica, and a perfect all around experience.
If she sounds like your type, I give her my highest recommendation!
DB
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Dickhead wrote, "How do you know it doesn't if you always do it?"
Dickhead,
The day you pay less than me for the same girl at Black, Madaho or a number of the other clubs I've pulled girls out of can you tell you that my clothes had me paying more than you have or would have. I take pride by my appearance and it's clear that many on the board don't. To each his own. BA is NOT the city you go around looking like a slob in. I guess if one was chasing girls on the street corners it doesn't really matter what you wear though to be fair though (that is not directed at anyone in particular...just a point).
Please don't tell me style of dress has anything to do with what I pay. I can see some logic in your point though that if a girl perceives you have more money because you dress nice she might try to get more money from you. You just have to stay in control of the situation and it won't be an issue at all. The locals tend to dress up at night. It's one of the things I love about Buenos Aires. These people have a lot of pride in themselves. American tourists in town are usually the easiest to spot because they have the shitty clothes on. If you ask me, they are the ones that are the mark.