American Politics during the Bush Presidency

I know this is your house, but don't bother trying to 'save the damned' (so to speak) You can't reason with emotion. It's frustrating, like trying to take a dump when you are totally constipated: you know your right (no doubt you gotta go) you work hard and get no results, and the only thing you come away certain about is the the source of your frustration stinks like sh**.

With all due respect to Straylight (taking him at his word about his experiences) his statements are poorly formed opinions, not facts (Dickwad, jump in here when you feel like it! We are all entitled to have them. There are always members of the opposition within important functions of the government (State, defense, intelligence) I would reason that the gushing of public support for the newly elected president, from a number of America's enemies, render this point moot.

You can, however, reason with a guy who is looking to buy you a drink. Next week we can start work on the conservative resistance in exile!

WW

[QUOTE=Jackson]StrayLight,

Ask yourself this question:

If you were Al Qaeda senior management, which of these two men would you perfer [u]NOT[/u] to have as the US president?

A) Obama.

Be) McCain.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]If the point of Al Qaeda is to create hatred between the muslim and christian countries than they would want ongoing conflicts in the hope of angering the rest of the muslim world so they would rise up and join Al Qaeda against us and the rest of the western world.

They would then want the person who would most likely and most easily go to war against them and that would be McCain. Therefore, it is not unrealistic to believe they would prefer McCain over Obama because McCain has already indicated he hated Iran and was ready to attack them.

Stowe

[QUOTE=Jackson]StrayLight,

Ask yourself this question:

If you were Al Qaeda senior management, which of these two men would you perfer [u]NOT[/u] to have as the US president?

A) Obama.

Be) McCain.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]The wonderful, wonderful part about this is - You're pasé, it doesn't matter anymore. It was a trash trailer, red scare question 3 days ago, now it's a pointless question. Bill Kristol - doesn't matter anymore. Rush Limbaugh - doesn't matter anymore. Bill O'Reilly - doesn't matter anymore. The arm chair general neo-con crowd that never spent a day in uniform, you're over? We see all ready your backsides as you're slipping off into an ignominius past. You've had your carnage rampage and ruinous blunders. Like Dracula, it's time to get back in the crypt baby. Going the way of the Dodos now.

[QUOTE=Bacchus9]The wonderful, wonderful part about this is - You're pasé, it doesn't matter anymore. It was a trash trailer, red scare question 3 days ago, now it's a pointless question. Bill Kristol - doesn't matter anymore. Rush Limbaugh - doesn't matter anymore. Bill O'Reilly - doesn't matter anymore. The arm chair general neo-con crowd that never spent a day in uniform, you're over? We see all ready your backsides as you're slipping off into an ignominius past. You've had your carnage rampage and ruinous blunders. Like Dracula, it's time to get back in the crypt baby. Going the way of the Dodos now.[/QUOTE]Hey Baccus,

You are stealing Keith Obermann's lines from last night, dude! I disagree because everything is cyclical and eventually the Dems will screw it up and lose their majority. Politicians are so corruptible when in control too long which is why I was against them getting a supermajority in the Senate.

The only way the Dems could maintain control is to govern in the middle and fix all the problems and that will take a generation. But because we change our government so often we do not maintain continuity so we cannot resolve the difficult problems.

Thus, while I believe Obama will make improvements, he only has 8 years and the person after him will change the priorities so we will change direction again and not resolve the real problems. That is why I do not see a solution for the US other than a gradual but consistent decline until we collapse (perhaps / hopefully in 50 years) At least I will be dead by then.

Suerte.

Stowe

[QUOTE=Bacchus9]The wonderful, wonderful part about this is - You're pasé, it doesn't matter anymore. It was a trash trailer, red scare question 3 days ago, now it's a pointless question. Bill Kristol - doesn't matter anymore. Rush Limbaugh - doesn't matter anymore. Bill O'Reilly - doesn't matter anymore. The arm chair general neo-con crowd that never spent a day in uniform, you're over? We see all ready your backsides as you're slipping off into an ignominius past. You've had your carnage rampage and ruinous blunders. Like Dracula, it's time to get back in the crypt baby. Going the way of the Dodos now.[/QUOTE]Bacchus9,

Your post is nothing more than a big middle index finger presented to everyone who doesn't share your political views.

I find your dismissive attitude towards other people's opinions to be incredibly low class, but typical of what I've come to expect from some overly-emotional liberals.

Bacchus9, you haven't contributed anything except to the political threads for the past two years. If spewing political venom has now become your only interest here, then I would suggest that you might consider another forum. The DailyKOS and the Huffington Post both come to mind.

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=Bacchus9]The wonderful, wonderful part about this is - You're pasé, it doesn't matter anymore. It was a trash trailer, red scare question 3 days ago, now it's a pointless question. Bill Kristol - doesn't matter anymore. Rush Limbaugh - doesn't matter anymore. Bill O'Reilly - doesn't matter anymore. The arm chair general neo-con crowd that never spent a day in uniform, you're over? We see all ready your backsides as you're slipping off into an ignominius past. You've had your carnage rampage and ruinous blunders. Like Dracula, it's time to get back in the crypt baby. Going the way of the Dodos now.[/QUOTE]Limbaugh's ratings peaked and were sky high during the Clinton years. O'Reilly launched his boring ass show (which conservatives like me think is totally irrelevant) during the Clinton Years. People don't read anymore so you may be right about Kristol.

But,

Arm chair General neo-con crowd that never spent a day in uniform? Four battle crosses and Battle stars, two Purple Hearts with service in WWI, WWII and Korea by my Father, Uncles, Grandfathers and other family. And a son at one of the Service Academies who will be going into the Marines in three years. Since my opinion doesn't count I'll just rely on theirs.

Ignominius? No, no shame here.

Ruinous? No, we are still a great country. We will be fine and will lead the world again.

Dracula? Sucks.

Dodos? You watch the Flintstones too much.

The personal attacks are the shit that takes all the fun out of the discourse.

[QUOTE=Jackson]StrayLight,

Ask yourself this question:

If you were Al Qaeda senior management, which of these two men would you perfer [u]NOT[/u] to have as the US president?

A) Obama.

Be) McCain.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]The Red Caves really wanted McPain because they knew when The Distinguished Gentleman from Arizona died they could bulldoze the barbie.

However in the blue caves Obama was the clear favorite, having lived in Indonesia for a few years and having actually known some Muslims they thought this might be somebody they could start a dialogue with and perhaps reach an accord where they could take off the dynamite vests.

Obama also did better among the under 30 jihadists because they like Michelle's ass.

All in all they both polled fairly consistently in their target areas.

(OK I totally stole this from the "Daily Show" but it was to good not to use)

Who should Osama fear?

Bush: "We'll get Osama 'dead or alive'". That was 7 years ago.

McCain: "My friend, I know how to find Osama". I wonder how come he has not shared this strategy with Bush in the past 7 years.

Obama: "If we know where Osama is in Pakistan, I will send our military after him" (without asking Pakistan's permission)

Who should Al Qeada fear?

A) Bush who sent 15,000 soldiers to Afghanistan after Al Qeada and 100,000 soldiers to Iraq after the oil.

Be) McCain who hasn't shared 'how to find Osama' with anyone for the past 7 years, and wants to keep the conflict going creating more Al Qeada recruits.

C) Obama who wants to pressure Pakistan to do more to isolate Al Qeada at the borders between Afghanistan & Pakistan.

[QUOTE=Gipse]C) Obama who wants to pressure Pakistan to do more to isolate Al Qeada at the borders between Afghanistan & Pakistan.[/QUOTE]Gee, what a great idea!

I wonder why George Bush didn't think of that?

That Obama is just so smart.

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]Sarah Palin couldn't name the countries in NAFTA (US Canada and Mexico) and thought Africa was a country not a continent.

Reported by Carl Cameron from sources in the McCain campaign.

I know the election is over but, well, I was right.[/QUOTE]I would have liked to know how Obama would have answered the same question, but the media never asked [u]him[/u] anything that tough.

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=Jackson]Gee, what a great idea!

I wonder why George Bush didn't think of that?

That Obama is just so smart.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]Well! In 2005 Pakistan signed a peace treaty with the Talibans, Al Qaeda defenders in the region. Billions of $ of US aid kept pouring into Pakistan. There was no public outcry from the Bush Administration. Obama kept saying that the aid should be tied to measurable results. These are the facts.

Bush and Obama have a different approach to the problem. This doesn't make one smarter than the other. People can draw their own conclusions as to which strategy they think is more effective.

[QUOTE=Jackson]I would have liked to know how Obama would have answered the same question, but the media never asked [u]him[/u] anything that tough.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]Those evil liberal media elitists never asked her if she knew that Africa was a Continent, I guess they just assumed she would know that just like most 2nd graders. Just as her handlers must have assumed it when they were briefing her on South Africa, and to their horror she asked if S Africa was in the country Africa.

Her response, "oh some people like to make a big deal about other people getting the wrong answer to a question."

This was leaked by staffers in her own campaign bubby. They also said she used to answer her door wearing only a towel. Not that there is anything wrong with that, I still think she is spoogable. Dumb as a fucking stump, but spoogable.

There is this persistent story going around that BO has not produced a Birth Certificate proving he was born in the USA and eligable to be a US President.

The last I heard, a muckracker was putting this issue before the Supreme Court on the day of the election.

Should OB be forced to show his BC before his inauguration?

Next time it will be Schwartznegger for Pres.

The amusing part of the whole charade is the GOP is getting it in the fartzer just like they gave it to the DEMS via the Gop Supreme court.

Has Carl Rove been de-clawed?

And the beat goes on.

Jackpot