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The Philippines used our constitution as a guide for theirs.
70 percent of the people have guns.
1200 politicians have been killed in the last 10 years.
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[QUOTE=Toymann;432994]Does anyone wonder why AP is now the 2-4 posts a day board it has now become.[/QUOTE][blue]Hey Toyman,
Have you been doing your research on the Huffington Post?
Here are the real numbers for the past month:
Argentina Private - Daily Posts
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April 07, 2013 = 27
April 06, 2013 = 15
April 05, 2013 = 29
April 04, 2013 = 25
April 03, 2013 = 14
April 02, 2013 = 11
April 01, 2013 = 13
March 31, 2013 = 17
March 30, 2013 = 20
March 29, 2013 = 20
March 28, 2013 = 18
March 27, 2013 = 19
March 26, 2013 = 25
March 25, 2013 = 14
March 24, 2013 = 29
March 23, 2013 = 23
March 22, 2013 = 20
March 21, 2013 = 33
March 20, 2013 = 51
March 19, 2013 = 22
March 18, 2013 = 27
March 17, 2013 = 28
March 16, 2013 = 16
March 15, 2013 = 37
March 14, 2013 = 32
March 13, 2013 = 31
March 12, 2013 = 43
March 11, 2013 = 10
March 10, 2013 = 21[/blue]
I wonder what this crew is representative of in the cross section of the USA. Back to not viewing the political threads on AP. The political discussions on the wall street journal, yahoo and other places are of more interest.
[QUOTE=MiamiBob;433005]I wonder what this crew is representative of in the cross section of the USA. Back to not viewing the political threads on AP. [/QUOTE]Not the "cross section". The "biopsy".;)
[QUOTE=Sidney;433002]Among others-name calling, character assassination, preferential treatment for some mongers, deletions without cause, moderator favorites, unknown taboo subjects, mas.[/QUOTE][blue]Hey Sidney,
Please feel free to [size=+2][b][u]Fuck[/u] [u]Off[/u][/b][/size] at any time.
Don't let the screen door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
I posted this under Report POST.
OUT of Line comments.
[QUOTE=Jackson;433009][blue]Hey Sidney,
Please feel free to at any time.
Don't let the screen door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jackson;433004][blue]Hey Toyman,
Have you been doing your research on the Huffington Post?
Here are the real numbers for the past month:
Argentina Private - Daily Posts
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April 07, 2013 = 27
March 10, 2013 = 21[/blue][/QUOTE]I was basing my activity numbers on what shows up on the "front page" Jax. What is the huffington post? Must be a funny reference I guess. Toymann.
Ps. Ok. Googled huffington post. LMAO. I am sure you understand why I have never heard of it. That said, I am guessing WT69 and Esten have online, real-time subscriptions. Lol.
The Bible:
[URL]http://www.shotgunnews.com/[/URL]
In Hard Copy form it's a gun lovers Hustler complete with a centerfold!
I am CONVINCED that it's the defense attorneys that are against the legalization of marijuana and that they are behind gun control because it's the attorneys that will lose so much money that they could make by defending the drug and weapons case defendants.
TL.
Order a copy of SN Today!
I mail-ordered the full-auto trigger group for my .308 HK 91 which converted it to a G-3 fully automatic assault rifle with a selector switch . Single shot , 3 round burst and full auto .
You can order the trigger group but you can't mount it on your civilian rifle without a shitload of permits and signatures , background checks , licenses , etc . You can but you get 20 years at Club Fed !
I guess the point is that you can mail-order an arsenal .
[QUOTE=Jackson;433009][blue]Hey Sidney,
Please feel free to at any time.
Don't let the screen door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]Mongers-.
The real question remains: When will the Jackson / Sidney rapprochement happen? It's obvious that Sidney is itching to maneuver his way back into the good graces of the AP community (he wouldn't be posting on here if he wasn't) and that Jackson has a boulder of guilt on his shoulders for banishing Sidney to that toilet known as the Dominican Republic. Perhaps if Sidney could secure the cure for his chronic jungle fever and keep it under wraps for good then Jackson could allow re-entry to the AP house?
An ignore notice is not bragging Toymann, simply an FYI for anyone following the exchanges (and explaining why).
We have no obligation to continue debating with anyone else. And there is no reason to stop posting because one no longer wishes to debate with another individual. That's freedom of speech, not censorship!
I don't know if there are fewer posts on AP these days, but maybe that's because of some people telling others to "get out of the kitchen" ? (sorry, couldn't resist).
There's a word for when you stop debating a rock, or an idiot, or a trouble-maker (take your pick), when you realize it's fruitless to continue engaging someone who practices mischaracterization and misinformation no matter how many times you point it out. That word is [B][i]smart[/i][/B].
If you don't like the word 'ignore', let's just say I'm going to take a break from helping Doppel recycle his crap.
Sidney is a good guy, I hope he sticks around and hope to see him again some day in BA.
I love this story about John McCain blasting the Republican threat to filibuster gun control. Here's what he said:
[QUOTE]"I don’t understand it. The purpose of the United States Senate is to debate and to vote and to let the people know where we stand. What are we afraid of?" [/QUOTE]So 90% of Americans want universal background checks, and a handful of Senate Republicans are determined to block even a vote? Oh man, this is going to get juicy.
[QUOTE=Esten;433032]
If you don't like the word 'ignore', let's just say I'm going to take a break from helping Doppel recycle his crap.[/QUOTE]Good to see you are separating yourself from the rank and file Esten. Never thought you were a shrinking violet. Toymann is content. Monger on dude. Toymann.
P.S. Bragging about ignoring someone on an Internet chat board is just lame, I agree with Doppelgänger!
[QUOTE=Doppelganger;432998] Placing someone on the "ignore" list is tantamount to the childish conduct of sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "I can't hear you" or "Na Na Na Na".?[/QUOTE]
The rest of the Republicans were told the check is in the mail.
[QUOTE=Esten;433034]I love this story about John McCain blasting the Republican threat to filibuster gun control. Here's what he said:
So 90% of Americans want universal background checks, and a handful of Senate Republicans are determined to block even a vote? Oh man, this is going to get juicy.[/QUOTE]
Survey Finds Law Enforcement United Against Gun Control.
[B]“99 Percent Believe "Assault Weapons" Ban is Not Most Important
Measure to Stop Mass Shootings”[/B]
"[URL]PoliceOne.com[/URL] released today the results of an extensive survey of about 15,000 active and retired law enforcement officers of all ranks and from departments ranging in size from less than 25 to more than 1,000.
These results strongly show that law enforcement officers do not support President Obama's gun control agenda. They do, however, strongly support the Right-to-Carry by law-abiding Americans. The survey respondents are united in their desire for politicians to focus on keeping firearms out of the hands of the mentally ill and to reject unconstitutional gun control measures that infringe on Second Amendment rights.
"The American people, and particularly the members of law enforcement, want politicians in Washington to stop pursuing a failed political agenda and get to work fixing our broken mental health system, improving school security, and getting criminals off the streets," said the executive director of NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, Chris W. Cox.
The following are some key findings:
99 percent said policies other than an "assault weapons" ban are most important to prevent mass shootings.
Almost 96 percent said that a ban on standard capacity magazines would not reduce violent crime.
More than 91 percent stated that the use of a firearm in the commission of a crime should have stiff, mandatory sentences, and no plea-bargains.
More than 91 percent stated they supported the Right-to-Carry by law abiding Americans.
More than 81 percent said that "gun buy-backs" do not reduce gun violence.
80 percent believe legally armed citizens can reduce casualties in incidents of mass violence.
Nearly 80 percent said that a ban on private transfers of firearms between law-abiding citizens would not reduce violent crime.
More than 76 percent indicated that legally armed citizens are important to reducing crime.
More than 76 percent support the arming of trained and qualified teachers or administrators who volunteer to carry a firearm.
More than 70 percent said that a ban on "assault weapons" would not reduce violent crime.
More than 70 percent opposed the idea of a national registry of legal gun sales.
Nearly 68 percent said magazine capacity restrictions would negatively affect them personally.
More than 60 percent said that the passage of Obama's gun control legislation would not improve officer safety.
Click below to read the complete survey:
[URL]http://ddq74coujkv1i.cloudfront.net/p1_gunsurveysummary_2013.pdf[/URL]
Do you think cops might know more about crime and guns than leftwing propagandist like Esten?
The current push for more gun laws is nothing but a [b]"failed political agenda".[/b]
[B][NOPARSE]ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ![/NOPARSE][/B]
[QUOTE=Punter127;433056]Survey Finds Law Enforcement United Against Gun Control.
[B]“99 Percent Believe "Assault Weapons" Ban is Not Most Important
Measure to Stop Mass Shootings”[/B]
"[URL]PoliceOne.com[/URL] released today the results of an extensive survey of about 15,000 active and retired law enforcement officers of all ranks and from departments ranging in size from less than 25 to more than 1,000.
These results strongly show that law enforcement officers do not support President Obama's gun control agenda. They do, however, strongly support the Right-to-Carry by law-abiding Americans. The survey respondents are united in their desire for politicians to focus on keeping firearms out of the hands of the mentally ill and to reject unconstitutional gun control measures that infringe on Second Amendment rights.
"The American people, and particularly the members of law enforcement, want politicians in Washington to stop pursuing a failed political agenda and get to work fixing our broken mental health system, improving school security, and getting criminals off the streets," said the executive director of NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, Chris W. Cox.
The following are some key findings:
99 percent said policies other than an "assault weapons" ban are most important to prevent mass shootings.
Almost 96 percent said that a ban on standard capacity magazines would not reduce violent crime.
More than 91 percent stated that the use of a firearm in the commission of a crime should have stiff, mandatory sentences, and no plea-bargains.
More than 91 percent stated they supported the Right-to-Carry by law abiding Americans.
More than 81 percent said that "gun buy-backs" do not reduce gun violence.
80 percent believe legally armed citizens can reduce casualties in incidents of mass violence.
Nearly 80 percent said that a ban on private transfers of firearms between law-abiding citizens would not reduce violent crime.
More than 76 percent indicated that legally armed citizens are important to reducing crime.
More than 76 percent support the arming of trained and qualified teachers or administrators who volunteer to carry a firearm.
More than 70 percent said that a ban on "assault weapons" would not reduce violent crime.
More than 70 percent opposed the idea of a national registry of legal gun sales.
Nearly 68 percent said magazine capacity restrictions would negatively affect them personally.
More than 60 percent said that the passage of Obama's gun control legislation would not improve officer safety.
Click below to read the complete survey:
[URL]http://ddq74coujkv1i.cloudfront.net/p1_gunsurveysummary_2013.pdf[/URL]
Do you think cops might know more about crime and guns than leftwing propagandist like Esten?
The current push for more gun laws is nothing but a [b]"failed political agenda".[/b]
[B][NOPARSE]ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ![/NOPARSE][/B][/QUOTE]Now, we should include on the same survey 15,000 parents who have kids going to school, then compare both percentages.
By the way, I am not either a republican nor a democrat.
Asking 15,000 parents with children in school would accomplish what?
Who is in the trenches every day dealing with crime up close and personal? The scoccer mom in her van or suv hauling the kids around or the law enforcement officer? Who of these two would have the better idea of what would or would not be effective in controling firearm violence?
I am sure our liberal friends would consider the soccer mom to be the most informed.
Facts and experience or Feelings, please feel free to draw your on conclusions.
[QUOTE=Doppelganger;433061]Asking 15,000 parents with children in school would accomplish what?
Who is in the trenches every day dealing with crime up close and personal? The scoccer mom in her van or suv hauling the kids around or the law enforcement officer? Who of these two would have the better idea of what would or would not be effective in controling firearm violence?
I am sure our liberal friends would consider the soccer mom to be the most informed.
Facts and experience or Feelings, please feel free to draw your on conclusions.[/QUOTE]You ask. Who is in the trenches every day dealing with crime up close and personal? (In order to have a valid opinion?) The victims of the crimes, The parents of the children who died and had blood in their hands, their friends etc.
[QUOTE=Caricoso;433063]You ask. Who is in the trenches every day dealing with crime up close and personal? (In order to have a valid opinion?) The victims of the crimes, The parents of the children who died and had blood in their hands, their friends etc.[/QUOTE]Based on your premise, only those who are the victim of a crime would have a valid opinion regarding the issue / solution. This seems a little extreme, don't you think? In fact, most likely the opposite is true. Good policy always comes from intelligent cool thinking, not emotional passion driven thought. My statement in no way should be interpreted as minimizing the pain and grief associated with being the victim of a violent crime. Just commenting that your statement regarding the "valid opinion" premise is extremely flawed. Happy mongering all. Toymann.
[QUOTE=Caricoso;433063]You ask. Who is in the trenches every day dealing with crime up close and personal? (In order to have a valid opinion?) The victims of the crimes, The parents of the children who died and had blood in their hands, their friends etc.[/QUOTE]The blood is on the hands of the killers and the people who insist on "Gun Free Zones" and those who refuse to allow proper school security. IMHO.
[B]"You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws.... [size=+1]THAT'S INSANE!!!"[/B][/size]
[NOPARSE]ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ![/NOPARSE]
[QUOTE=Toymann;433065]Based on your premise, only those who are the victim of a crime would have a valid opinion regarding the issue / solution. This seems a little extreme, don't you think? In fact, most likely the opposite is true. Good policy always comes from intelligent cool thinking, not emotional passion driven thought. My statement in no way should be interpreted as minimizing the pain and grief associated with being the victim of a violent crime. Just commenting that your statement regarding the "valid opinion" premise is extremely flawed. Happy mongering all. Toymann.[/QUOTE]You're right. I should have said "Also the Parents" It is ok if we include them? After all they were the ones that paid the highest price besides the victims themselves. Correct?
Is a country of 320 million people. I think that nobody has the monopoly of common sense.
[QUOTE=Caricoso;433069]You're right. I should have said "Also the Parents" It is ok if we include them? After all they were the ones that paid the highest price besides the victims themselves. Correct?
Is a country of 320 million people. I think that nobody has the monopoly of common sense.[/QUOTE]Coming to Argentina in two weeks. Would love to buy you a beer. Buena Onda amigo. Toymann.
P.S. Pm if you are around and would like to have a cold one!
Pps. I am a republican from the most republican state in the Us, that grew up in a wild ass liberal socialist country. Of course, the parents should be heard and count twice! My dos centavos!
An interesting police poll. Which can be challenged by one very simple fact:
[u]Other developed countries with much stricter gun control measures have significantly lower rates of gun violence.[/u]
Certainly some measures will have more impact than others. The universal background check system has perhaps the broadest support, and is just plain and simple common sense. Close the loopholes in the system.
[QUOTE=Toymann;433071]Coming to Argentina in two weeks. Would love to buy you a beer. Buena Onda amigo. Toymann.
P.S. Pm if you are around and would like to have a cold one!
Pps. I am a republican from the most republican state in the Us, that grew up in a wild ass liberal socialist country. Of course, the parents should be heard and count twice! My dos centavos![/QUOTE]
Thank you Toyman!
I may have to take a Rain check this time, but I certainly will like to meet you on my next stay in Baires.
[QUOTE=Esten;433077]An interesting police poll. Which can be challenged by one very simple fact:
[u]Other developed countries with much stricter gun control measures have significantly lower rates of gun violence.[/u] [snip]
[/QUOTE]It must have just been a coincidence that Esten had a post about the police survey after I brought the subject up, considering I'm suppose to be on his ignore list. Who do you think you're shitting Esten?
"While the most recent murder rate is fairly low for the United States, we often hear that other countries like Australia, Japan and the UK have much lower murder rates. If we want to compare countries, we should not "cherry pick." Let's look at all countries. The United Nations collects such data. Out of 206 countries, the US ranks 103. Smack in the middle.
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Data Source: United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime: [URL]http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html.[/URL] (Rates are for most recent year, since 2000, of available data).
You might guess that the Congo (30.8) or Uganda (36.3) would have higher murder rates than us. But would you have guessed Jamaica (40.9), Saint Lucia (25.2), Brazil (21.0), Greenland (19.2) and Costa Rica (10.0) do too?
Here is the list of European countries whose most recent murder rates exceeded the USA's.
• Greenland (19.2).
• Russia (10.2).
• Moldova (7.5).
• Lithuania (6.6).
• Ukraine (5.2).
• Estonia (5.2).
• Belarus (4.9)".
But what about guns? Does the US have a murder problem because of so many guns? Again, let's not cherry-pick; let's look at all other countries.
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Data sources: UNODC and the Small Arms Survey.
"To the eyeball, it looks like a more heavily armed population goes hand-in-hand with less murder, as an average. The statistics bear that out: the correlation coefficient is negative,.0.23, and it is statistically significant.
You can look for various trends, but there is no evidence here that the availability of guns leads to more murders. Two of the most heavily armed countries, Finland and Switzerland, have murder rates of 2.2 and 0.7, among the lowest in the world. On the other hand, every country with a murder rate at least 5 times greater than the USA's has at least 5 times fewer firearms per person than the USA".
[QUOTE=Punter127;433088]It must have just been a coincidence that Esten had a post about the police survey after I brought the subject up, considering I'm suppose to be on his ignore list. Who do you think you're shitting Esten?
"While the most recent murder rate is fairly low for the United States, we often hear that other countries like Australia, Japan and the UK have much lower murder rates. If we want to compare countries, we should not "cherry pick." Let's look at all countries. The United Nations collects such data. Out of 206 countries, the US ranks 103. Smack in the middle.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]28745[/ATTACH]
Data Source: United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime: [URL]http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/homicide.html.[/URL] (Rates are for most recent year, since 2000, of available data).
You might guess that the Congo (30.8) or Uganda (36.3) would have higher murder rates than us. But would you have guessed Jamaica (40.9), Saint Lucia (25.2), Brazil (21.0), Greenland (19.2) and Costa Rica (10.0) do too?
Here is the list of European countries whose most recent murder rates exceeded the USA's.
• Greenland (19.2).
• Russia (10.2).
• Moldova (7.5).
• Lithuania (6.6).
• Ukraine (5.2).
• Estonia (5.2).
• Belarus (4.9)".
But what about guns? Does the US have a murder problem because of so many guns? Again, let's not cherry-pick; let's look at all other countries.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]28746[/ATTACH]
Data sources: UNODC and the Small Arms Survey.
"To the eyeball, it looks like a more heavily armed population goes hand-in-hand with less murder, as an average. The statistics bear that out: the correlation coefficient is negative,.0.23, and it is statistically significant.
You can look for various trends, but there is no evidence here that the availability of guns leads to more murders. Two of the most heavily armed countries, Finland and Switzerland, have murder rates of 2.2 and 0.7, among the lowest in the world. On the other hand, every country with a murder rate at least 5 times greater than the USA's has at least 5 times fewer firearms per person than the USA".[/QUOTE]You said...Finland and Switzerland have murder rates of 2.2 and 0.7, among the lowest in the world.
Yes! Because people in those countries are "highly" educated. Isn't that guns don't kill people, but people do? Well...give a gun to a "Cu-Cu brain", and he will try it on you. Give it to a "normal" person, in control of himself, with good records, and you kind expect better results. That's the reason background checks (good ones!) are good because at least will deterred the ones watching too many Video games and Rambo movies.
[QUOTE=Caricoso;433092]You said...Finland and Switzerland have murder rates of 2.2 and 0.7, among the lowest in the world.
Yes! Because people in those countries are "highly" educated. Isn't that guns don't kill people, but people do? Well...give a gun to a "see you-see you brain" and he will try it on you. Give it to an educated person, in control of himself with good records, and you kind expect the results. That's the reason background checks (good ones!) are good because at least will deterred the ones watching too many Hollywood movies.[/QUOTE]
Nobody lives in those countries compared to the USA but the LONE gunman in Norway killed 77 people in one day! Worst killing since WWII. They say that 1 in 4 people in Norway were affected by that massacre .
The rest of the European countries that were mentioned have 12 month winters and the rest of the months are summer so the people just go stir crazy and the severe depression from having 6 months of darkness at times makes them shoot anything.
I'm just guessing.
TL.
They should just fuck somebody every day like we do here to keep sane.
[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;433095]Nobody lives in those countries compared to the USA but the LONE gunman in Norway killed 77 people in one day! Worst killing since WWII. They say that 1 in 4 people in Norway were affected by that massacre .
The rest of the European countries that were mentioned have 12 month winters and the rest of the months are summer so the people just go stir crazy and the severe depression from having 6 months of darkness at times makes them shoot anything.
I'm just guessing.
TL.
They should just fuck somebody every day like we do here to keep sane.[/QUOTE]Norway is # 11 in the world of the numbers of guns per country (31 guns per 100 residents). (31% a lot eh?) Have they had twice as many, (1 gun per person) would they be able to stop this terrorist? How? People had their guns at home, and they were in total state of panic as you can imagine, by the time they go home and try to get the guy it's all over, and the police was doing its job!
Are we suggesting carrying our guns with us everywhere we go?
Far West! Can you imagine leaving Madahos with a chica that carries a semi-auto to go with a client to the hotel "just in case" because the client has a gun with him? I don't think he'll ever get erected, and will stop mongering that night! Oh yes! She may add her own "Guardaespaldas" while the client is doing her, and if he hits the wrong hole, shit!, the client may have to use his Blue Cross card.
Albert Eistein said more of the same doesn't solve the problem. More guns? Goethe used to say. Well...if you want to know more, travel my friend! Lot's of things are being done better in other places, some not!
[QUOTE=Caricoso;433092]You said...Finland and Switzerland have murder rates of 2.2 and 0.7, among the lowest in the world.
Yes! Because people in those countries are "highly" educated. Isn't that guns don't kill people, but people do? Well...give a gun to a "Cu-Cu brain", and he will try it on you. Give it to a "normal" person, in control of himself, with good records, and you kind expect better results. That's the reason background checks (good ones!) are good because at least will deterred the ones watching too many Video games and Rambo movies.[/QUOTE]Are you saying Americans are[NOPARSE]"Cu-Cu brain"[/NOPARSE]? Are you a USA Citizen?
Expanded Background Checks Will Erode Rights, Not Prevent Tragedy!
[URL]http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/11/Expanded-Background-Checks-Are-About-Gun-Control-Not-Sandy-Hook[/URL]
"1. Would expanded background checks have stopped Adam Lanza from doing what he did on Dec. 14,2012?
2. Would expanded background checks have at least hindered or slowed what he did?
3. Why are President Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV), Senator Pat Toomey (are-PA), and NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg pushing expanded background checks at this moment?
Answers: no, no, and "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste."
Even the ACLU says Reid's gun legislation could threaten privacy rights, civil liberties.
[URL]http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/04/exclusive-aclu-says-reids-gun-legislation-could-threaten-privacy-rights-civil-liberties/[/URL]
[NOPARSE]ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ![/NOPARSE]
Sorry if I'm slow to reply but my current location blocks the AP and I can't always get to it.
[QUOTE=Caricoso;433096]Albert Eistein said more of the same doesn't solve the problem.[/quote] He (Einstein) was right and more gun laws won't solve our problems. The problem is not guns, the problem is insane people.
[QUOTE=Caricoso;433096]More guns? Goethe used to say. Well...if you want to know more, travel my friend! Lot's of things are being done better in other places, some not! [/quote]I'll try to do that, my life has been pretty sheltered up to now, I've only visited about 15 to 20 counties. lol
CONSIDER THIS...Commentary by Paul Harvey:
[quote]In 1929 the Soviet Union established gun control.
- From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million
dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded
up and exterminated.
In 1911, Turkey established gun control.
- From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to
defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Germany established gun control in 1938.
- From 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, gypsies,
homosexuals, the mentally ill, and others, who were
unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.
China established gun control in 1935.
- From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents,
unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.
Guatemala established gun control in 1964.
- From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to
defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Uganda established gun control in 1970.
- From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to
defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
Cambodia established gun control in 1956.
- From 1975 to 1977, one million [b]"educated"[/b] people,
unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.
[b]That places total victims who lost their lives because
of gun control at approximately 56 million in the last
century.[/b]
Since we should learn from the mistakes of history,
the next time someone talks in favor of gun control,
find out which group of citizens they wish to have
exterminated.[snip][/quote]
Good Day!
[QUOTE=Punter127;433105]He (Einstein) was right and more gun laws won't solve our problems. The problem is not guns, the problem is insane people.
I'll try to do that, my life has been pretty sheltered up to now, I've only visited about 15 to 20 counties. lol
CONSIDER THIS...Commentary by Paul Harvey:
Good Day![/QUOTE]Let's see...
Where did I say that Americans are see you-see you- brain?
Why do you want to know if I am an American citizen?
Where do you take the facts that if the people on those countries were armed (rifles, guns, grenades, etc). They couldn't have tanks or airplanes, the SS, Stalin, the Turks etc. Were not going ahead with their plans?
Imagine that we have a crazy leader that sends Drones, Tanks, Soldiers etc. How do you stop them with your magnum?
I am loving this [URL]policeone.com[/URL] poll on gun control. It's worthy of attention, but it smells funny.
For one, the timing is quite convenient, immediately prior to potential Congressional voting. What are the regional and political demographics of the respondents? Who wrote it, and what are their affiliations? There's a very heavy pro-gun bias, and the questions seem suspiciously worded. For example:
[QUOTE]4. What effect do you think the passage of the White House’s currently proposed legislation would have in improving police officer safety? [/QUOTE]The real question is, what would be the effect on reducing gun violence. Of course police officers would want more people owning and carrying guns, that supplements their ability to stop or neutralize a violent criminal. Let the criminal shoot it out with a civilian, that will keep LE safer.
[QUOTE]6. Do you think a federal ban on manufacture and sale of ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds would reduce violent crime?[/QUOTE]The real question is, would such a ban help reduce the number of deaths in mass shootings.
The poll conveys the "more guns, less gun violence" viewpoint. If that's how it worked, then countries with few guns would have skyrocketing gun violence. And clearly that's ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Caricoso;433109]Let's see...
Where did I say that Americans are see you-see you- brain?[/quote]
I simply ask if that's what you are implying when you said this;
[QUOTE=Caricoso;433109] Well...give a gun to a [NOPARSE]"Cu-Cu brain"[/NOPARSE], and he will try it on you. Give it to a "normal" person, in control of himself, with good records, and you kind expect better results.[/quote] Considering we are talking about American gun control sounds to me like you think Americans are [NOPARSE]"Cu-Cu brain"[/NOPARSE], yes or no?
[QUOTE=Caricoso;433109]Why do you want to know if I am an American citizen?
[/quote]We all due respect if you are not an American Citizen your opinion is of little value to me, it's an American issue.
[QUOTE=Caricoso;433109]Where do you take the facts that if the people on those countries were armed (rifles, guns, grenades, etc). They couldn't have tanks or airplanes, the SS, Stalin, the Turks etc. Were not going ahead with their plans?[/quote] I said “unable to defend themselves”.
[QUOTE=Caricoso;433109]Imagine that we have a crazy leader that sends Drones, Tanks, Soldiers etc. How do you stop them with your magnum?[/QUOTE]
So you think we should just lay down our arms and become slaves? You can go along quietly to the gas chamber if you like , but I prefer to go down fighting, because that's what Americans have always done.
[b][u]Long live the Republic!
[NOPARSE]ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ![/NOPARSE][/b][/u].
[QUOTE=Punter127;433112]So you think we should just lay down our arms and become slaves? You can go along quietly to the gas chamber if you like , but I prefer to go down fighting, because that's what Americans have always done.
[b][u]Long live the Republic!
Big changes have come about in America the last 50 years. Some good, alot bad. Now, there has never been a lack of unhappy people in the world, especially when they being marginalized, or feel like they are being marginalized. And usually, minorities are in this category. So, I don't quite get this "slave" issue. Your chances of being a slave is as good as my chances of being a plantation owner. Zero.
[QUOTE=Punter127;433112]I simply ask if that's what you are implying when you said this;
Considering we are talking about American gun control sounds to me like you think Americans are [NOPARSE]"Cu-Cu brain"[/NOPARSE], yes or no?
It sounds to you! (Your perception, and being very defensive is not my fault!) I referred to anyone (lunatic if you will!) who has access to a gun!
We all due respect if you are not an American Citizen your opinion is of little value to me, it's an American issue.
Well...since you are so curious about my integrity o ability to talk about American issues, "Yes" I am an American citizen!, that in almost 40 years had paid more taxes and gave jobs ( Co-own 3 corp.) to more people than the average complainer instant gratification brain out there.
I said “unable to defend themselves”.
I was in the army in Argentina "Seventies'' dirty war. I never got my butt so kicked in my entire life. Two years of training and becoming another different person. Orders were...execute or we execute you! Fortunately I didn't have to hurt anyone. All citizens complied when we were patrolling, but it wasn't always the case for others soldiers and they had to follow those orders. The rest is History.
So you think we should just lay down our arms and become slaves? You can go along quietly to the gas chamber if you like , but I prefer to go down fighting, because that's what Americans have always done.
Do you believe that we are going to be slaves of whom? What gas chambers? Paranoia?
Just watch an episode of Floricenta on (Baires) T.V. and it will change your view and concept of life. Hey! You're my friend!
Move along please. Move along!
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Caricoso, in a previous post you stated you are an "American". If this is so why are you using an translation program to post in English?
[QUOTE=Doppelganger;433124]Caricoso, in a previous post you stated you are an "American". If this is so why are you using an translation program to post in English?[/QUOTE]What translation program?