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Saint/Ezy/LA Larry and Others:
I recommend that you contact a bilingual lawyer. For a few bucks he/she will arrange all the errands and save you a lot of time by not hitting the wrong reators (Inmobiliarias). In fact, a few nights saved in hotel fees for optimizing your apartment search will more than pay for his/her service.
I have lawyers friends of mine who may recommend me a bilingual lawyer versed in the real estate market. If any of you are interested, please post your e-mail address and I will ask my lawyer friends.
Dosequis:
Police won't bother for bribes you unless you do something really wrong (for instance, passing a red light when driving). If you are white skinned and gringo looking, they shouldn't harass you. However, police officers are barely distinguishable from criminals: Look at this week's issues of Clarin and La Nacion; you will find the history of 3 poor teenagers (not well educated or not very wealthy) who were forced by the police to jump into the pestilent waters of Riachuelo river because policemen thought they may be criminals. One of the teenagers is still missing. That gives you the quality of the actual police procedures in BA.
LA Larry:
BA is a wonderful city, but don't bet on that the peso took bottom. Argentina changed currency 3 times since 1980, and we suffered several hiperinflation periods. One of the keys to survival in Argentina is assuming permanent risk and changing conditions. Believe me: When the Argentine Central Bank exhauste its Dollar reserves after paying IMF-BIRF interest in loans during mid 2003 or after court orders force restoration of frozen accounts, nobody would know how many Pesos the Dollar worths (3.6? 5? 10?)
It will take decades for BA to become a Sao Paulo or a Mexico DF, but Buenos Aires will unavoidably follow the common Latin American pattern: Few very rich communities surrounded by very poor trenchtowns. Recoleta and vicinity will, of course, continue being very wealthy, so it shouldn't deter you very much from buying there.
Hope this helps,
Andres
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andresg: Gracias....here is my email: unpocolocoenba@hotmail.com
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Andres ,
Great analysis! Anyone that has taken economics classes in college would come up with the same rational as you posted. While I hope things don't get worse for the economy anything is possible. Personally I don't think it will get much worse than 4 pesos to the $1 US but no one knows for sure.
2003 is going to be an interesting year for Argentina. I hope it is a more prosperous one for the people of Argentina but it will take many years for things to unravel. It definitely can get worse before it gets better economically.
The new elections in March shouldn't make too much of a difference in my humble opinion. It's interesting because every taxi driver I had (and trust me I had many many....I'm lazy when it comes to walking) I asked who they wanted for President in the new election. ALL laughed and said it didn't matter. Some of the answers were pretty comical. A few said me, a few said them, a few said their wives were stupid and even she could do a better job. Most said it simply didn't matter.
I get the sense the people of Buenos Aires are just plain tired of the shenanigans of the corruption by their government. As I've posted before. We are the IMF right now. We are bailing out Argentina, one chica at a time (sometimes two)
Andres...please email me any info/contacts that you have. [email]saintofba@hotmail.com[/email] Thanks in advance.
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I have a plan to save Argentina: rent out the public offices! Wanna be President of Argentina for a week? $1,000,000. Vice-President? $500,000. Ambassador to Rome? $100,000. We could send rich bored Silicon Valley billionaires down to run the country and pay for the privilege. Hell they couldn't screw it up worse than it already is! And heck, they might figure out how to fix the economy! But that's just my opinion, and I could be wroooooong.... OK I will shut up now.
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chuponalgas....are these prices in pesos or dollars?
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AIR FARE SALE...Delta is dropping prices dramatically as it prepares to exit the Buenos Aires market....rt from ATLANTA to EZE....$513 including tax....yup, including tax...This fare is available on Travelocity. I could not find the same fare on the Delta web sit. Hurry!!!
[blue]American Airlines is matching the fare. I got my ticket last night, and I'll be there next Friday!
Jackson[/blue]
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I'm off to BA as well, leaving the 27th through the 8th of Oct. Hopefully staying at the ArtSuites. Hey Jackson -- can you provide details of how you got American Airlines to match Delta's fares? Do you know if it's upgradeable so that I can use my mileage to sit in a fat seat?
Anybody want to connect while we're all down south? If so, let me know at sf_******@yahoo.com
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Oops. My em address was partially replaced with **. It should have read SF_******
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I must be ignorant about something having to do with posting email addresses. The missing word in my email address is ******
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OK. Last try. The missing word in my email address is a 6 letter spanish word for man.
Why did the board substitute asterisks??
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Wow. Great fares! I wish I had the time to go again sooner. Unfortunately November is my next trip. Also, anyone booking on Delta Airlines, don't forget to go to their website and register for the Bonus miles offer. They are offering 25,000 bonus miles if you complete travel before November 30th. I get back one day earlier and won't be able to get the bonus miles but I might fly down in early November just to get the extra 25,000 miles.
(It's hard to find the special offer. Go to their website: [url]http://www.delta.com;[/url] click on specials on the right; click on "skymiles special offers"; click on "Fly to select destinations in Latin America and earn up to 50,000 miles " .For the special offer you MUST register your frequent flyer #. This isn't a heavily advertised offer but well worth the time to register. 25,000 bonus miles is nothing to sneeze at. With the regular miles you'd already have over 35,000 miles.
DonJuan, there are certain words that are automatically blocked automatically by the system. Yours happens to be one of them.
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"Fly to select destinations in Latin America and earn up to 50,000 miles " .For the special offer you MUST register your frequent flyer #. This isn't a heavily advertised offer but well worth the time to register. 25,000 bonus miles is nothing to sneeze at. With the regular miles you'd already have over 35,000 miles."
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That's great but if you are planning to fly to BA on a regular basis what's the point if Delta discontinues service to BA, as rumor has it.
Are these points transferable to other airlines. Perhaps this is a question more for a travel agent than hobbyist:-)
Bond, James Bond 69
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Hey 25,000 miles is 25,000 miles. Delta will still fly to Sao Paulo. Plus, as much as I love Buenos Aires I'm sure I'll hit other cities.... EVENTUALLY...ha, ha.
P.S. It's NO rumor. It's a fact. Delta will not be flying to Buenos Aires or Rio after December 1st.
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saint....thanks. let's see...the trip is 10,000 (app) miles...I have Medalion status, so I get 25% extra...or an additional 2,500 miles plus 25000 bonus miles...that's 37,500 miles for a trip to the promised land....almost enough for a trip to Sao Paolo...and more than enough to go to Costa Rica or Columbia or Souix City, Iowa (if you are of a mind to go to Iowa)...how could a person not go one more time????
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aa has a web special! now, i checked from miami, so don't know about other cities.
only $372 plus $66 tax for a total of $438!
i found it for mid-oct.
best i can tell, fare requires a purchase by tomorrow, sep-20, for trave completing by dec-12.
good luck all...
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Leo,
I give you one better. Round trip MIA to EZE from Nov 4 to Nov 14 is 374.90 with all taxes and charges included. Give you one guess where I'm going to be.
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Hey guys, I'm a long time business traveler to Argentina, but unfortunately not recently. Anyway, I love this forum, so please get back to the details of your sexual experiences and spare us the travel agent talk!!!
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Hello, I am travelling to buenos aires from Oct 16-22nd. Anyone else going to be there and want to hang out? Let me know if you are. rbcolo_1@yahoo.com. I speak spanish fluently as well.
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ua has the $375 fare. aa has it also (actually cheaper), but aa requires travel mon-thu.
looks like i'll be doing a b.a. trip on oct17-20!
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Keith,
Nothing for nothing, it's this "travel agent talk" that allows guys like you to live vicariously through guys like us via the board so please quit your complaining and be thankful that this board is the high quality it is.
Ok. More "travel agent talk". Ha! Leo just emailed me cause he mistakenly figured out that trips from EZE to MIA are about 4 times cheaper than going from MIA to EZE around the holidays. Example. You can fly a chica in from BA to MIA (providing she has a passport AND visa) for $359.50. The flight would leave BA on December 19th and she would go back January 4th. $359!!!!!! That same flight from MIA to EZE is over $1500.
I don't know about you but I'm thinking if you know any chicas down there that have a visa...definitely try to fly her in. Just the difference in price is $1140. Something to think about.
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Ok Guys --- I think I need a little R & R next month and yes the Etoile has lumpe bed's --- Can anyone recomend a reasonably price accomadations in Recoleta --- And one more thing --- If you guys keep this up, Buenos Aires is going to be ruined by all of us --- Argentina has been a well kept secret and its is my believe that its being ruined by this board --- Exon
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by exon123
[i] .....Argentina has been a well kept secret and its is my believe that its being ruined by this board --- Exon [/i][/QUOTE]
How so ? There is enough in EZE so as to allow enough of us :)
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Those airfares look great but now I get the gist. Those fares are all East coast fares so most of you guys have to be on the East coast. No wonder BA is your playground. Are all you BA regulars East Coast guys?
I am closer to the West Coast so TJ, Thailand, the PI and other parts of Asia make better travel options. I don't have frequent flyer miles. With tax I don't want to pay $700 or even $600 to go to BA. If I had an airfare for under $400 I'd already be there. Anyone know of any cheap way to get to BA from the West coast not including courier?
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dosequis....uh, it is usually best to put the cart before the horse...
In this case that means checking out the price of airfare before you ask for detailed information about what to do and where to stay once you arrive.....if you aint goin it don't matter whether the Lancaster Hotel lets chicas in the rooms ....
But if you really want to go check previous posts and you will find several lower cost options available from the West Coast to Argentina for around $500....$520 to be exact.....
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exon: Wow...talk about a contradiction....You chastize us for posting information about Buenos Aires while at the same time asking for us to post information about Buenos Aires......
I know of several reasonably priced lodging options in BA, but if I post the info you request will you thank me or spank me?
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LOL. I totally agree with Ezy. I have to shake my head sometimes and laugh at some of you because you take and take and take from the board. Then you complain, complain, complain. Argentina is a huge city. Trust me, it's far enough away that no one will "ruin" it. The other thing that seperates it from other destinations is there is not one central area where there are hobbyist. For the most part (except at night) the action in Buenos Aires is discreet.
Some of the active hobbyist post to share information with you all. Jackson, I think it's high time to get the PRIVATE board going. I know that many of us are members of other boards and I can tell you that the other boards have no members that complain about information. The thing that I can equate it to is someone that hits the jackpot lottery and then bitches and complains the whole time about having to pay the taxes on it. They don't realize how lucky they are to have come across "it" and all the while complain about something.
Trust me, you won't realize what you lost until there are no posts on the board and everyone is saying, "hey, where did all the posters go". Good luck all.
[blue]Hi Saint,
I'm working on it. Expect an announcement sometime in the next couple of weeks.
Jackson.[/blue]
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Posted from BA in early June but had to cut my trip short and return home (family bereavement). Even after 3 days there I knew it was the place to go and am checking fares for a six week trip either Nov or Jan.
A note to some of the 'vicarious readers'. Until you start making a contribution yourselves, I would suggest you don't complain too much, or this great service might just go off-limits. That would be a loss to us all. Getting to BA and having a good time isn't just the chicas; hotels and fares all play their part. Maybe everyone who takes off the board should find somewhere/somebody new to report on. We can't always depend on Saint, Ezy and a few other regular contributors who probably supply 90% of the posts. Respect and thanks to all you guys.
While I was there I walked around Congresso, San Telmo (don't miss the market on sunday) at any hour and felt totally safe, so I'd recommend getting out of Recoletta occasionally. A great Italian restaurant is Campo dei Fiori (corner of San Jose and Venezuala tel: 4381-0682).
Next trip I'll spend a week in BA to start and finish and check out a few other places, like Cordorba, and definitely Mar del Plata.
And definitely post!
SteveC
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BA on the brain pretty much describes me since my visit early this month.
Summing it all up, I would say that the Argentine woman is more affectionate and hotter than I had imagined. They seem to like being approached from the rear, and do their actress best to try to convince you that you are the biggest stud they have ever run into. Compared to Rio, the only difference seemed to be that they don't do francesca without a rubber without some encouragement, but I felt more at home in BA and think it is the best spot in the world right now.
Concerning the police question below. I would say they are more like American police; they are out in force, but do not take much interest in you. In Latin America, customs/immigration officials are often totally corrupt assholes, but in BA they just get you in and out with no fuss. I was not cheated out of a single peso in BA; it seems they have certain standards of behaviour that not even a depression is going to change.
I am going back after the Summer heat lets up next year. Want to go to places like Salta, Mendoza, Bariloche. Must be action there, and would like to hear any information any of you might have about these tourist spots.
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I totally agree with Roberto. Customs is great in BA. Never hassle you at all. The first trip I went, they looked through my bag and the girl opened the side pouch and it had about 50 condoms, lube, etc. She quickly closed it and let me on my way. (Since then I've packed all the goodies in my checked bag...).
The police are definitely out in force. I noticed more of a presence this past trip. I've stopped and asked them directions before and they've always been friendly with me.
I want to strongly encourage guys not to give their business cards to chicas unless you are NOT married, don't care if people know you are in the hobby, etc. Some of the girls I'm friends with always ask me if I know..."John Doe..." and so and so. They assume that if we are executives then we might know their clients sometimes. I was shocked when she was asking me about some senior level executive in Florida. She told me his full name, his title and the company he works for. I also chat with a few girls on web camera so I can see them and your business cards sometimes when they hold them up to the camera.
Guys, if she is asking me....odds are she is mentioning your names to other guys. Don't assume these girls will honor and respect your privacy. Like I said, some guys probably could care less but I doubt you want your name and company name mentioned to other dudes. Who knows who else is looking at your business cards while being informed that you are a client of theirs.
The smart thing to do is to just get the chica's email address. Just about every girl I've talked to has an email address in Buenos Aires. I've communicated with a ton of them on a regular basis. Also, if you give her your email address... make sure you make one up on hotmail or yahoo or one of the other sites. Who knows if they will accidentally forward your email address to other people. One time last week a chica forwarded me a joke. She included what appeared to be all of her clients that she had the email address for in her address book. I noticed several of the guy's email addresses were from their company's email system. It included their first and last names. For example: [email]john.doe@ibm.com[/email] Like I said, do NOT use personal email addresses.
Many of you are single guys and don't think about things like this but also remember that some of us no matter what our marital status is signed "morality clauses" in our contracts at work. Granted, it would be hard to enforce something like this...but why give your company a reason to terminate you if you're sitting on the fence with them or they are laying off. (Many of you that are Senior Level executives or higher at public companies signed these whether you know it or not). Good luck all.
Saint
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by saint
[i]LOL. I totally agree with Ezy. I have to shake my head sometimes and laugh at some of you because you take and take and take from the board. Then you complain, complain, complain. Argentina is a huge city. Trust me, it's far enough away that no one will "ruin" it.
... And I totally agree with Saint ... I had such a laugh reading what Exon posted ... I couldn't believe what he was saying ..... I have been reading the WSG Argentina Forum since January 2002, immediately after the devaluation, every single day and I am one of those who takes and takes and takes (since I have never been to BA) ….. I heard so many “interesting” things about BA that I changed my mind (previously thinking about Rio de Janeiro) … so I am going to be there (coming from far Europe, 13 hours flight) in one month time, staying for 7 nights and …. I just find ridiculous what Exon said earlier on today …. I’ll be staying to Design Suites (thanks to Mayri, [url]www.argentinago.com[/url] ) and I’ll do my best to tell you guys as much as possible about this apart hotel (didn’t find much information about this place so far in the board… chica-friendliness, attitudes of the management towards hobbyists, ecc …) and about all the chicas I am going to “entertain” (hope not less than 2 every single day) …. So I hope I’ll be able to give something back to this great forum, sorry … forgot to say free forum (thanks Jackson) ….. and I am thankful to all those guys who shared and are still sharing their time and experiences with us, LA Larry, Starfe, DownBA, Andres, Ezy, Moondoog, Yabba, Toosh, Tio Otto de Buenos Aires (Otto Graham),Saint just to name a few …. Believe it or not, I’ve just bought my first digital camera on purpose for my first trip to BA (hey Saint, in 1 month time it will be me sending you nice pics of “portenas” rather than the other way around, just wait and see).
Anyway, to cut a long story short, you guys just wait until the 26th of October and I’ll try to give back as much as I can, probably something different, I am Italian but live in the UK …. BA seen from a European point of view …. Probably my comments will be slightly different from most of the other guys because I am used to Italian and Spanish chicas ….. Thank you all, rob_roy
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Saint, Ezy, Jackson and other frequent posters, I truly appreciate the information you provide through your posts. Please dont stop on account of some ridiculous request. I have been to Argentina several times, the most recent being in late December. I did not have the opportunity to "play" on my last visit but am returning in 3 weeks and will this time. I promise to repay you with info posts on a daily basis.
Saint, you stated in a post that blacks, playwoman and others were subpar compared to your last visit. Did you find the internet girls to be more attractive than the girls in the clubs? Were there any 8-10's? I am lining up some internet girls from platynum for daytime fun, but wondering if I should do the same for nite time?
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hey rob_roy5 - post here if you will be in b.a. oct17-21 and want to meet up... staying at art suites again...
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Saint,
I TOTALLY agree with your post about confidentiality. I met this 5'2", 110lbs., blonde Brazilian, named Emily, at Playwoman in June. After spending time in my room, we decided to go for coffee, at which point she began telling me about the guys with whom she exchanges email in the US. She even pulled out a letter this guy had written, his business card AND a photograph he had mailed. And she's telling me all about how he stayed at the Etoile several weeks before, etc.
Now, guys, I'm from the old school...no paper trail, use cash when possible, use an alias when possible, anonymous email, etc. This poor schmuck has no idea that his personal information is NOT being kept in the strictest confidence. He's in the States dreaming about the hot chica he has back in BsAs, and she's showing me ALL of his personal information (including work and home mailing addresses,email addresses and phone numbers) saying, "This is the guy I f---ed four weeks ago." TAKE A MOMENT AND LET THAT SINK IN!
Keep your cards close to your vest and stay... "invisible".
Drgn
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Guys:
The area of San Jose and Venezuela ia a terrific place to dine out.
I recommend you 2 places near Campo dei Fiori (which is also very good):
- PLAZA MAYOR: Perhaps, the best Spaniard restaurant in Buenos AIres. EXCELLENT sea food (paellas, cazuelas de mariscos), obscene desserts (those that can kill your liver) and very good wine.
- PROSCIUTTO: One block from there, in the corner of Santiago del Estero and Venezuela. An Italian restaurant, with a "retro" decorations (old appliances hanging from the walls, old jukeboxes, etc). Pasta and ham (prosciutto means ham in Italian) are so good that your physicians would punish you for such colesterol excess. I recommend Spaghetti with mushrooms, Pan de campo (nice bread topped with mozzarella) and also obscene desserts (same owner as Plaza Mayor and Campo dei Fiori).
Personal information:
Unfortunately, the Argentine culture disregards the value of confidentiality. Many girls will tell you "Sure, absolute discretion!" only to talk about you and your looks to their friends 2 hours later. RELEASE AS LESS INFO AS POSSIBLE.
Even government databases are sold in software copyhouses for a few dollars, so datamarketers use this info to pest people.
I receive 50+ spam e-mail messages every day in my old address. 80% of them come from Argentina, selling me everything, even femenine towels.
Be careful.
Customs:
Usually, they are fast and non-harassing, even for us Argentinians. I was able to bring my laptop without any hassle last July. Since I pushed the button and got a green light, no problem.
However, BE CAREFULL ABOUT MONEY!!! Last week, a woman was arrested when trying to leave from Ezeiza to Fuimicino (Rome) with $80,000 in cash. You can only take $10,000 per trip from the country (just in case any of you thinks about bringing money to buy an apartment).
Hope this helps,
Andres
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Please gentlemen, don't spam me for this message, but I'm have to ask this question. Are there a lot of older chicas (40+) in Buenos Aires that I can have fun with?
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RobRoy5,
Ha, ha. Looking forward to seeing your pictures buddy. I don't even know how many pictures I've sent you but I definitely know you owe me a few dozen. :)~ I know you'll have a blast.
RB1,
Yes, the clubs in May were at least 300% better. Fear not, I hear that the clubs are filling back up with hotties. I think as the weather gets warmer even more girls will come back. Don't get me wrong. The clubs were OK but compared to May they sucked. In May there were plenty of 8's, 9's and a few maybe close to 10's. This trip it was slim pickings. BUT, I would always want to go to the clubs. They are so much fun. Definitely try to hook up with some WSG brothers while you are down there. It's so much fun to joke around and hang out with guys at the clubs. I've had the most fun (besides with the chicas) bonding with guys over dinner and in the clubs.
The internet girls were few and far between this trip too. I mean there were still hotties but you just had to call maybe 6 or 7 girls to get the 1 gem that you want to hook up with. Back in May, I didn't use the internet girls as much because there were so many in the clubs. If you want to see internet girls...I'm telling you -- print out at least 6 or 7 girls for every one that you want to see. Example. If you plan on seeing 5 girls during your trip..go to sites like Escorts-Argentina, Platynum, Area-Vip, etc. and print out about 35 girls. As I said, many were on vacation, not working, disconnected phone, etc.
Drgn, I know that girl well. She is one of the girls I chat with online a ton. When I went down my first trip she is one of the girls I saw. The scary thing is that when I got back to the States and started chatting with her on web cam, she was holding up my business card on the camera. When I asked her where she got it she just said she was a "witch" and did magic. I knew she couldn't have grabbed it from my wallet because I always had it hidden. I went to look at my suitcase. You know those luggage business card holders? Well, she took my business card out of there. So everyone needs to be careful. Granted, there isn't much a girl can do with your personal information but you never know.
Also, if a girl wants to get your information bad enough.. she'll get it no matter what you do. Case in point. One of the girls I saw from Platynum this trip emailed me and I noticed in her email to me she had my email address then it had my initials next to it. Example: [email]johndoe@fakeemail.com[/email] (JD). When I asked her how she got my initials, she hesitated at first then mentioned that she got it from the hotel when she came to see me. I'm not sure how she got it.
I'm not trying to freak anyone out. I just posted because it's little things like that you would never think about. This board is about sharing all information pertaining to the persuit of happiness in BA.
Getready1, I think in Buenos Aires there is a good chance you'll find older, more mature women. Don't hesitate to ask any girls you see if they have any friends that are older. Many of these girls know other girls. Many of the older ones automatically assume no one wants older women. They think they can't compete with the young hotties. No need to think guys will jump on you for asking. Different strokes for different folks. Go to: [url]www.area-vip.com.ar[/url] I believe that Sofia on that site is older. (she also has a ton of names on Platynum). Also, not sure if "Clara" on platynum is your type but she is also older and may suit your needs.
I recommend you email the Webmistress, Adriana of Platynum and Escorts-argentina.com. As Moondog pointed out, she is a wonderful person. I can't remember her personal email but the email from Platynum.com.ar is: [email]platycomment01@fibertel.com.ar[/email] Just tell her what you are looking for and I'm sure she can refer lots of girls that will suit your needs.
Good luck.
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>For example: [email]john.doe@ibm.com[/email]
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I think the chica who seduces john.doc@imf.com will be the next Evita Peron:-)
Chill out all that critic mundane airfare and accomdations posts!
The state of the imfamous Argentine board right now is that no one is reporting from the front, which are the most interesting reports of all. The board needs to hear of Ground action! Trench warfare! but alas this is not forthcoming.
Everyone is planning on their next sexation...
Information in planning has value. Be patient.
Bond, James Bond 69
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Saint: Re: Identity - Many hotels will tell the chica the name under which you are registered. Some hotels also require that the chica know your name and room no: before they let her up.
I travel on business all the time, yet my tags never have my business card - They have My Complex Manager's address - I figure that when I'm on the road, worst situation the luggage will reach the bldg. super, and he'll hold it for me.
I guess I have been lucky with EZE, most chicas I met, and a couple who came to visit me here in EU, were just sweethearts. Also given the fact that for some it was a side/second job :)
Getready1: Try Marina Christina in platynum.com.ar, I gather she is around the age group you want.
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getreadyone: I have met the chica citydude mentions. She is a delightful person. Another suggestion for women over 40: There is a club on Reconquista street across the street from Cutty Sark that specializes in "women of a certain age.".....I think the name is Verde, but I am not certain. I was on my way there once, but as I passed by Cutty Sark my now Favorita was sitting at a window side table and smiled at me.....I turned, entered Cutty Sark and started a one year plus and counting encounter with a nena(baby) instead of a vieja (older woman)....
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To all true posters and you know who you are. I woul like to take a momment here and thank you for what you have provided us with here. Its seems some of you are feeling a little used right now and ready to leave us for your own little "country club". I myself am sorry I haven't had the honor of visiting BA yet but plan on it next year. And the only reason I'm going there is due to the input I've read on this board and in the archives. So I feel I have no right to ask dumb questions on where the hottiest girls are or is it safe etc...all the information one needs is in previous posts. But I do enjoy the current posts and would be at a loss if I could not come home and enjoy the readings of the last news on BA. As they say "Don't let a few bad apples spoil the bunch". And if that doesn't work lets look at this in a patriotic way, and for our Euro viewers please don't be offened. Back when our forefathers decided to tell the King and Queen to kiss of they did so because they did not beleive in a cast society yet that all men where created equal. So if you where the son of a General or the son of the guy that whiped the Generals butt you both had the same chance and oppurtunities to become President of the United States. Yes I know it is a load of crap but I know in Jackson's heart when he started this site and decided to make it free he had the same patriotic feelings. He wasn't looking to make a buck or two, just a place where a guy that makes 6 figures a year could tell a guy that makes minum wage where to get the best girls at and at a good price. So I'm asking Jackson and the others not to go out and buy your own little castle and shune the rest of us out, yet keep your doors open and allow us in and by doing so I guarantee you castle be become the grandest of them all.
And in response to exon's thought that we are going to ruin BA....Think about Las Vegas and how many strip clubs it has there and more getting built all the time and in all of these clubs are beutiful women, it's called supply and demand. And as Saint has pointed out before if more of us don't go there then the ladies are just going to go to Cancun or some other area where they can make money. So we must get out in force and visit BA as much as we can so the girls down there can tell there friends who will tell more friends and it shall be paradise.
P.S. Jackson if you still decide to do your private group um.....DO you by any chance accept bribes?
