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[QUOTE=Rokraida]Had a session with Belem on Saturday. Was the bomb. Although this is my first time and I don't know what it's supposed to really be like. 150p per hour plus extra for bbbj[/QUOTE]What the fuck is the bomb?
And you got ripped off, it is 120 per hr.
[QUOTE=Rokraida]Had a session with Belem on Saturday. Was the bomb. Although this is my first time and I don't know what it's supposed to really be like. 150p per hour plus extra for bbbj[/QUOTE]So how much extra for the BBBJ? Geo Eye is right it should have been 120 all in, with BBBJ.
[QUOTE=Punter 127]So how much extra for the BBBJ? Geo Eye is right it should have been 120 all in, with BBBJ.[/QUOTE]No Geo Eye is out of date. A couple of months ago they raised the price to 150p. It is assumed by all the girls that if you want BBBJ you have to give the her a 30p propina.
[QUOTE=Lysander]No Geo Eye is out of date. A couple of months ago they raised the price to 150p. It is assumed by all the girls that if you want BBBJ you have to give the her a 30p propina.[/QUOTE]Wow what a rip off, they just lost me I won't be going back.
This belongs in the Inflation Examples and Commentary thread.
$30 peso's, $10 bucks for BBBJ, again outrageous.
If the American dollar keep's falling against the peso and other world currenices it won't be long before the "Agre's" and others will be flying up here to Fuck our women.
Exon
Fuck this place. I went to Uruguay 343 and came in the gal's mouth today, 100 pesos la hora, no tip expected: "Hasta El Final" as they say on their website.
Santa 1707 was the very first privado I visited in BsAs. Returned few other times and had reasonable good times. IME, BBBJ always had been extra. My last visit here was back in MAR 06. Not since I have discovered other alternatives such as Maipu 359, Corrientes 1125, and Uruguay 343 providing better services with no upsell or propina. I quote from one of our famous mongers "Who needs this place? AVOID, AVOID, AVOID!" ;)
For all the obvious reasons. Sid and I may disagree on politics but are spot on about this place, avoid at all costs.
Mongers,
I think it is just a little bit hasty to write this place completely off and to give it an avoid rating. As far as I know, 1707 has always maintained reasonably honest, straightforward business practices and in my experience always has a nice lineup of girls with fit bodies. They must be doing something right, as they have been in business for a long time and I have sent many mongers there who mostly come back satisfied. $150 AR is not too bad especially if you consider you could get the chica to come back to your house for that and could potentially build up a nice arrangement with the chica for no-cost BBBJ and BBFS. Considering the super convenient location, convenient hours (11am-5am) and reasonable price, especially compared to the Recoleta clubs (minimum $500 AR with entrance and chica drinks included) I will continue to recommend this place to mongers.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
Come on, RH. Comparing a privado price to a Recoleta club? Why don't you compare liverwurst to liver best?
As far as "reasonably honest business practices," I recommend you read the very beginning of this thread, or ask the guy who runs this website how honest he thinks their business practices are. I know that was all before your time.
I've only been there maybe six times (estimate) but I got dishonest business practices twice. Another time they made me wait in the stairwell. So fuck that.
Oh, and for convenient hours: Note that Santa Fe 1707 is [b]closed on Sundays[/b]; Uruguay 343 is 24/7 and 365. Pretty convenient, I would say. From El Alamo take the #102 bus. That will also get you to Corrientes 1125 which is 24/6.
RH may be right considering where he is making his recommendations from and to. Not far from his place, secure feel to the entrance, well lite busy street corner for guys that speak next to no spanish. I personally have never had a problem with their business practices but am not hung like Juan Juad as apparently is the case with the webmaster here. I also can't argue with RH point regarding chica quality, I have never once had to leave due to nothing worth fucking. I also have a strategy for excessive tip solicitation. Blow me with a rubber and I won't fuck you in the ass. So no propina needed.
Perhaps avoid is a touch strong, better value at nearby privados may be better.
Though I haven't been there in years and can't imagine the circumstance of a return.
Gee, Did I miss something.
I just paid 300p for a massage with a happy ending, that is US$80 to US$100. For a massage happy ending.
Gee, I am going to weep a few tears for you guys.
You cheap bastards.
I have been going to 1707 for about 5 years now. There has always been an additional fee or propina for bbbj of 20 to 30 pesos. The hour now is 150, half hour is 100. I think the talent level is excellent and it remains a good value. I also enjoy Uruguay 343 which is open Sundays and which has a website with the talent on duty for the day listed.
It returns to Santa after a year of not concurring.
I was with Sol Monday and is brilliant!
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So did you take those photos?
No, I didn't think so.
Hey Jackson, you hold me to a different standard than other posters, even though I contribute way more. Why don't you jump right on this guy for posting pictures he didn't take?
[QUOTE=Dickhead]So did you take those photos?
No, I didn't think so.
Hey Jackson, you hold me to a different standard than other posters, even though I contribute way more. Why don't you jump right on this guy for posting pictures he didn't take?[/QUOTE]She me shipment those photos by mail. I live in Uruguay and travel to Bs. As. Weekly.
It excuses if my English is not very good.
[QUOTE=Tommmy]It returns to Santa after a year of not concurring.
I was with Sol Monday and is brilliant!
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[url]http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7872/sol7awe5.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]What the fuck is this? There is no one there that looks like that,.
Did you just take those pictures of any site?
That does not make any sense. Stay in Uruguay
[QUOTE=Geo Eye]What the fuck is this? There is no one there that looks like that,
Did you just take those pictures of any site?
That does not make any sense. Stay in uruguay[/QUOTE]Photoshop can do wonders. The first pic does in fact look a lot like Sol. She is pretty reliable. Will have to bring that photo with me on my iphone next time to compare.
I was there last week and I have to admit it is the best looking privado I have seen down here. Very professional but they tried to upsell me by asking more pesos for added activities. I believe it is best to pay up front for everything and call it a deal. When upselling comes into play then this a good indication that the service will be in question. Location, apartment and girls are great but not to be trusted.
Joe Vato
[QUOTE=Joe Vato]...apartment and girls are great but not to be trusted.
Joe Vato[/QUOTE][blue]They ripped me off 4 years ago, and I've never been back.
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Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Sometimes these girls and their madems think they can get away with anything. Well not all the time. Thanks for letting us know that you were ripped off. That was four years ago. I am willing to bet that it is still going on now. Pity that more gents do not research this site for more info. Been using World Travelers list and the only problems I see is that the prices have increased but I sense that they are trying to charge me more since I am from out of town. Their loss since I always tip'well and recommend if I have a good experience. I have never met Jackson but he is correct. Best to avoid 1707 Santa Fe Apt. 3. Best looking privado in BA but buyer watch your ass and money!
Joe Vato
A year or so ago, I went here for the first time. I did so after reading all of the posts including Jackson's. However, I figured since it was so close to where I was staying, I had to try. Plus, if I wasted USD$23.50 (at the time 30 mins was 70 pesos, I think) on a bad 30 min lay, I was going to survive. Since I am probably not as well hung as Jackson, I didn't run into the same problem he had.
In the 40-50 subsequent visits, I must say that I never had a problem. I have seen everything from the hottest 19 yr old in Bs As to the house pig. The current madam (only saw Silvia (I think that is the one Jackson had a problem with) a few times) is always very nice and gives me a little ribbing when I show up more than once or twice on the same day.
One night, real late and after many drinks, I chose a little spinner (Morena) Unfortunately, she wasn't up for bbbj, cola, facials or any of the other fun things I had in mind and she had what looked to me to be a relatively fresh c-section scar (to fresh for my likes) I pounded her for close to an hour but could not bust a nut. I tipped her and asked her to get me another girl. She did and it was the house pig (Florencia) I specifically chose anyone other than her on multiple prior occasions. I figured what the hell, I might as well see if I can get one out and call it a night (morning since it was about 3am)
I asked her "acabo in boca?" "cola?" (learned those here) and she said "Si, si!" She grabbed the little guy and gave a great PSE with BBBJ, lots of ball washing and then she pushed my legs up and gave me the best non-asian asian I have ever had. She then offered BB cola and FS (I declined figuring I wasn't the first one to whom she offered such access) Put on the cover for multiple positions puss and cola. Whipped off the cover and stuffed it back in her mouth. She sucked and jerked it until I blew a huge load all over her face, hair and tits. She scooped up what she could and ate it all. Considering where her tongue had recently been and what she was eating, I passed on the goodnight DFK.
The place can run hot or cold but I have never had a problem. I do find that while I can usually get BBBJ (often at no up-charge) it is not too common that I get CIM or COF here (probably 30% of the time) Have enjoyed Lara, Wanda, Sol, Barbi, Chantal, Charo (hottest I have ever seen in Bs As) and a whole bunch I can't remember.
My other standby is 1631 Junin where I can almost always get CIM / COF.
Got a couple of 20 yr old spinners that come to me. But I will swing into either of these places at a moments notice.
After hearing mixed reviews about this place, including strong negative review by many senior mongers, I decided to test the waters knowing very well, that there was a great possibility of wasting my 150 ARS. Also, since I had failed to have sex in BA for last 48 hours despite my repeated attempts, I was really v horny and literally dying to fuck!
Here is my story:-
GETTING THERE:Reached via taxi from Las Canitas. Total cost 16ARS.
ENTERING THE APARTMENT: Very easy. Just rang the bell. The madam quickly opened the door for me, no stupid questions asked! I reached up to 3rd floor via the lift. There was no marking of the apartment number & I almost got confused but the madam opened the door on her own to usher me in.
THE MADAM: I must say a very affable woman. I really felt very comfortable with her unlike some other madams, I encounter at other privados. I would give her 10/10 on client management.
THE GIRLS: The best thing about this privado is that any time there are many girls available unlike few other famous privados where its always "house full"! I was presented 5 girls. At least one was "9", two "8"s, two "7"s & one "6". Almost four girls were v attractive. All looked in mid 20's or early 20's and more or less in average or good shape.
PRICE: Well, it was 150 ARS for one hour. The madam was upfront and informed that it would just cover basic sex and that the employers of the girls believe in giving the girls directly any extra fetish they comply with. The fetish included Cola, oral sin presartivo, DFK, CIM etc.
NEGOTIATION: I decided to negotiate for the really pretty "9". Her name is Pamela. Madam said, she can do cola, DFK, BBBJ, CIM but it will cost 250. ARS. Frankly speaking, with a girl of her looks and class. It was / is definitely worth it! Considering that I have been spending over 500 ARS to have mediocre sex with model kind of girls from top Boliches. I would say that its better to pay just 250 ARS and get really good sex with a girl of similar standards.
However, I did not take her because I was not in mood to splurge. Plus, there was such a great impact of negative reports of this apartment, that I decided to play very cautious and leave "Pamela" for another time. I decided to take a "8" by name of Laura. Just basic sex for 150ARS. I really fell for her pretty face.
SEX: Sex was very average. In the room, Laura offered BBBJ for an extra 30ARS. I declined as I was hell bent on saving money! The only sad part that she didn't like DFK. However, normal kisses were allowed. I was allowed to come on her breasts. I just had one shot. I spent 20 mins just chatting with her about my life & her life. She is 21 years old, no kids, working to provide for her school education. She does about 2-3 guys a day. She works 10 am to 8pm.She was a very decent,nice girl with a good heart.However, will not repeat because of lack of DFK.
ROOM: Quite decent. Very spacious. Not claustrophobic. No ensuite toilet though.
EXIT: Very comfortable exit from the apartment. With a broad smile by the very affable & the nice madam. There is a guard at door who opened the building door for me.
RETURN: A 5-7 min walk to Subte station. Took subte from "pueyerrodon" station, D line.
WILL I RECOMMEND THIS PLACE TO FELLOW MONGERS?
Yes, in my opinion this is not a rip-off joint. However, its not a cheap privado. You should go in a mood to spend and you can get good sex with good looking, pretty, model kind girls. However, basic sex is still available at 150 ARS here for 1 hour.
This is not to discount the fact that if you are lucky, you may get some really hot chicks in a cheaper privado providing all services. However, likelihood of this always very less. These girls always seemed to be booked, very busy, over-worked!
However, you can walk in at Santa fe 1707, with confidence, any time to surely meet a hot chica.
WILL I GO THERE AGAIN?
Yes, when I am in a mood to splurge. I will go specifically for Pamela with 250 ARS in my pocket.
IS THIS PLACE A RIP-OFF JOINT?
In my opinion, No. As they are upfront in telling you that the girls will expect extra money for additional activities other than basic sex.There are no bullies, bouncers there. No one attempts to steal your money.No extra bill presented at end of sex.
ENJOY BA
Thanks. The info is great.
Jes
Go a little farther on the Subte next time, to Callao (two more stops from Puerrydon) and you'll find that to be closer to 1707. Actually that whole D line would make a good privado tour starting from 2985 Cabildo and ending at 359 Maipu, get off at every stop, go to a privado, get back on, and so forth.
[QUOTE=Dickhead]Go a little farther on the Subte next time, to Callao (two more stops from Puerrydon) and you'll find that to be closer to 1707. Actually that whole D line would make a good privado tour starting from 2985 Cabildo and ending at 359 Maipu, get off at every stop, go to a privado, get back on, and so forth.[/QUOTE]You should market that. DickHead's D-line Tours
I have been longing to fuck Pamela ever since my first visit here on this trip. Today, I could not resist any more and decided to sample Pamela.
Arrived 1707 at 1500 hrs.
1. I was shown a total of 3 girls including Pamela. Other than Pamela, the other two girls looked very very ordinary and didnt seem to belong to Santa fe 1707.
2. I paid 150ARS for 1 hour with Pamela but as we all know this 150ARS doesnt mean anything without the propina.
3. I asked Pamela about the add-ons. She said 30 for BBBJ, 50 for CIM, 100 for cola. So a total of 180ARS apart from 150 ARs, I already paid. I repented not negotiating via the Madam. I am saying this because madam had negotiated similar add-ons with Pamela about 2 weeks ago for just a 100ARS extra.
4. Anyway, I opted for 80 ARS add-on of BBBJ & CIM. I gave cola a miss but she has one hell of a sexy ass.
5. I decided not to fuck and just enjoy oral. She gave a nice non-stop wet, sloppy, slurpy BBBJ with CIM for about 35 minutes. It was really a good BJ from a nice looking sexy woman with a sexy body. Enjoyed every bit of it.
6. Did not go for a 2nd round of sex as I was sexually drained after the great BJ.
7. After that just chatted with Pamela for 10 mins and left the place in 45 mins flat though I paid for an hour.
8. Pamela has been working here for 8 years non-stop! She seems quite happy with the job. She is a local and saves about 4000 USD a year. She is 32 years old but has the body of a 25 year old!
9. I was offered soft drinks on the house!
Overall cost of 230 ARS for a nice wet blow job from a hot looking woman is justified but still you do feel the pinch when you compare it with the deals at Maipu 359 or Uruguay 343.
Recommended?
Yes, Yes, Yes
Captain,
This is probably not a big deal for you, but you can just pay 50 pesos for CIM and essencially you will be getting a BBBJ.
DWC
[QUOTE=Dancesw /Chicas]Captain,
This is probably not a big deal for you, but you can just pay.
50 pesos for CIM and essencially you will be getting a BBBJ.
DWC[/QUOTE]Your message's meaning is not clear. Kindly elaborate!
[QUOTE=Captain]I have been longing to fuck Pamela ever since my first visit here on this trip. Today, I could not resist any more and decided to sample Pamela.
Arrived 1707 at 1500 hrs.
1. I was shown a total of 3 girls including Pamela. Other than Pamela, the other two girls looked very very ordinary and didnt seem to belong to Santa fe 1707.
2. I paid 150ARS for 1 hour with Pamela but as we all know this 150ARS doesnt mean anything without the propina.
3. I asked Pamela about the add-ons. She said 30 for BBBJ, 50 for CIM, 100 for cola. So a total of 180ARS apart from 150 ARs, I already paid. I repented not negotiating via the Madam. I am saying this because madam had negotiated similar add-ons with Pamela about 2 weeks ago for just a 100ARS extra.
4. Anyway, I opted for 80 ARS add-on of BBBJ & CIM. I gave cola a miss but she has one hell of a sexy ass.
5. I decided not to fuck and just enjoy oral. She gave a nice non-stop wet, sloppy, slurpy BBBJ with CIM for about 35 minutes. It was really a good BJ from a nice looking sexy woman with a sexy body. Enjoyed every bit of it.
6. Did not go for a 2nd round of sex as I was sexually drained after the great BJ.
7. After that just chatted with Pamela for 10 mins and left the place in 45 mins flat though I paid for an hour.
8. Pamela has been working here for 8 years non-stop! She seems quite happy with the job. She is a local and saves about 4000 USD a year. She is 32 years old but has the body of a 25 year old!
9. I was offered soft drinks on the house!
Overall cost of 230 ARS for a nice wet blow job from a hot looking woman is justified but still you do feel the pinch when you compare it with the deals at Maipu 359 or Uruguay 343.
Recommended?
Yes, Yes, Yes[/QUOTE]Thanks for this infomative post. I agree with your observation on this place. The suggested prices for extras depends to some extent on the chica. Last year I had girl (no longer works there) who give BBBJ including CIM for 30p, and who offered cola for 50p. As a general observation, I would say that most Argentinian girls don't mind BBBJ but really don't like CIM. When negotiating a BBBJ I have found that in this place (and others with a similar pricing policy) girls are happy to give BBBJ for a small propina or free, provided you can convince them that you won't come in their mouth. What I say to them is "Hagas lo que hagas no voy a acabar in la boca" or words to that effect. Another benefit is that once the girl is really convinced you won't come in her mouth on your next visit you'll often get a much deeper, wetter, and more enthusiastic BBBJ.
Captain,
What I am saying is to get you to CIM she must do a BBBJ.
So, just pay her 50 and say you want the CIM.
DWC
Lysander,
You are right probably! However, I don't know whats the big deal in CIM! I specially dislike it when they spit it out! It spoils all the fun! I was a bit naive when dealing with Pamela but I was literally dying for a good wet job and hence acceded to all her requests for money! She was literally ridiculing me saying "oh.Its just 30USD!". And I could sense that I would end up with a disaster of a session if I don't pay up. In this way, one needs to be careful at this place cos the chicas want propina and if you dont pay, be ready for very ordinary lacklustre sex.
Dances with chicas,
Your point understood and very logical but this is not how the chicas think! If I say I will pay only for CIM she would give a a covered BJ and tell me to let her know when I am ready to come in mouth!
Captain,
This is what I do everytime I go to this place, which sometimes is more
than once in one single day.
I tell the chica: mamacita, here is 30 pesos for the bbbj, if I get to finish
in your mouth insted of the 30 you'll walk with 50. I've done this with at
least 20 chicas here, including some of the current staff Pamela, Bianca,
Sol, Lara, etc.
The chicas here will adjust the pricing if they see you are a new face,
a foreign monger with an accent, and also if you negotioned extras with
too much concern about how much they want.
DWC
[QUOTE=Captain]Lysander,
You are right probably! However, I don't know whats the big deal in CIM! I specially dislike it when they spit it out! It spoils all the fun! I was a bit naive when dealing with Pamela but I was literally dying for a good wet job and hence acceded to all her requests for money! She was literally ridiculing me saying "oh. Its just 30USD!". And I could sense that I would end up with a disaster of a session if I don't pay up. In this way, one needs to be careful at this place cos the chicas want propina and if you don't pay, be ready for very ordinary lacklustre sex.
Dances with chicas,
Your point understood and very logical but this is not how the chicas think! If I say I will pay only for CIM she would give a a covered BJ and tell me to let her know when I am ready to come in mouth![/QUOTE]I have sessioned with Pamela (and many others from 1707) and politely refused the "extras". This has never resulted in less than a satisfying experience. In fact, I think it's resulted in better sessions due to the girl realizing that I'm in control, not her.
[QUOTE=Captain]Lysander,
You are right probably! However, I don't know whats the big deal in CIM! I specially dislike it when they spit it out! It spoils all the fun! I was a bit naive when dealing with Pamela but I was literally dying for a good wet job and hence acceded to all her requests for money! She was literally ridiculing me saying "oh. Its just 30USD!". And I could sense that I would end up with a disaster of a session if I don't pay up. In this way, one needs to be careful at this place cos the chicas want propina and if you don't pay, be ready for very ordinary lacklustre sex.[/QUOTE]As should have been clear from my previous post, I quite agree with you about CIM. That's why I always tell the chica I like BBBJ but don't worry no matter how hard you suck my dick I won't come in your mouth. I don't really see the appeal of CIM, especially if I know the girl doesn't like it. A few girls are really OK about CIM. In which case its fine by me, but I would never pay extra for it. For the same reason, I am not that keen on facials or most other other porn film cliches. I know some guys get a kick out of getting a girl to do things she obviously doesn't like. Its just not my thing.
Also by the way I have also found that if you don't want or ask for any extras you will still get good service at this place. Although it is hard to generalize. It all depends on the girl and how she is feeling (if she is tired or has already had three clients before you) and if she thinks she is never going to see you again. If the girl knows you are only in BA only for a short time, she has little incentive to give you any more than a minimum service.
It seems to me that your experience with Pamela is a good example of what can happen if you overpay - the girl thinks you're a bit of chump and gives you bad service.
Over the last couple of years have had some good experiences here, so it was one of the first places I visited when I arrived last week. None of my old favourites in the line up of five girls which included Pamela. Passed on Pamela. Not my type. Took Eugenia instead. Petite with hardly any tits, but pretty face with charming manner and v. Friendly. No English as far as I know. None of the bored resigned attitude shown by some of the longer serving girls here. Obligatory 30p propina for BBBJ was well worth it. Enthusiastic with good technique. DFK and DATY no problem. Tight pussy (no kids) but confessed she gets a bit sore if she sees more than a few clients in a day. No CIM and definitely no cola at any price. Would I repeat? Yes. I saw her once already earlier this year. Total 150p + 30p propina
[QUOTE=Lysander]Over the last couple of years have had some good experiences here, so it was one of the first places I visited when I arrived last week. None of my old favourites in the line up of five girls which included Pamela. Passed on Pamela. Not my type. Took Eugenia instead. Petite with hardly any tits, but pretty face with charming manner and v. Friendly. No English as far as I know. None of the bored resigned attitude shown by some of the longer serving girls here. Obligatory 30p propina for BBBJ was well worth it. Enthusiastic with good technique. DFK and DATY no problem. Tight pussy (no kids) but confessed she gets a bit sore if she sees more than a few clients in a day. No CIM and definitely no cola at any price. Would I repeat? Yes. I saw her once already earlier this year. Total 150p + 30p propina[/QUOTE]I am headed back down to BA on Nov. 1, and I always like to get on the scoreboard right away with a quick visit to 1707, which has never let me down.
I have never thought to ask for CIM; how do you ask for it in Spanish?
I suppose you could say "Leche en la boca, por favor", but I think you can do better than that. Anybody know?
[QUOTE=DonRoberto]I am headed back down to BA on Nov. 1, and I always like to get on the scoreboard right away with a quick visit to 1707, which has never let me down.
I have never thought to ask for CIM; how do you ask for it in Spanish?
I suppose you could say "Leche en la boca, por favor", but I think you can do better than that. Anybody know?[/QUOTE]You can ask:
1. Bucal completo sin globito.
2. Chupa sin condom hasta el final.
Suerte.
Stowe
I paid a visit to 1707 this afternoon, and was presented with six outstanding choices. I picked a dark-haired girl named Laura though any of them would have been fine. Asked for "sin globito", and got more than my money's worth. She has a velvety touch with her mouth that got me off way too-fast, and I was not proud of my performance. Really a sweet girl.
Got charged 100 pesos for a half hour; don't know if this is a gringo price, but it was 70 last year. But how can you complain about a heavenly french for 30 USD? I just do not understand all the negativity about this place in this forum.