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Gentlemen,
Quick query for the regulars.
Have not been to BA for 2 years, but considering a trip over Xmas/New Year and was wondering what happens in BA at that time - is it deadly quiet, or full of action.
Do not necessarily mean just the boliches, as I am an occassional hobbyist, but bars/restaurants in general.
Hoping to meet more non wg's if possible as I may be returning regularly to BA in the future.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Keyser
Hi, Guys:
I'm back in town!!!! :)
You can call me at my cell. phone for my translation service!!! ;)
Kisses, Roxana.
I am glad we have moved on and prices are being talked about alongside other issues.
My question back on 9/19 to the gentlemen who frequent this board was whether prices are going up due to the general improvement of the economy. Posts from Andres and Saint seem to indicate that it is and not all of it is tourist driven. Some of it must be. So it is probably both, I would surmise.
Cheers.
Andres might be a better person to post about this but I feel that it's a combination of everything but the fact that places like Dollys are also increasing their prices tells me that it's what I posted a while ago. It can't be blamed on only the tourists. Look at the make up of Madahos on any given night. It's mostly locals NOT tourists.
Here is my take on things. (Besides inflation which is a given).When the financial system collapsed here in the beginning of 2002, many of the people that already had money were prepared for it. In fact, the rich just got richer because they already moved their money overseas or pulled it out of the banks and when it went as high as almost 4 to one, many converted it and just got richer. Unfortunately, most of the country lost alot of money. It caused a lot of panicking and people just didn't know what to think or do. Many panic sold their houses/apartments to raise money. (Hence the artificially low prices in rents and purchase prices). It has since adjusted. Now that people realize they were living in a dream for 10 years and it will NEVER go back to 1:1 they are starting to adjust to life post-devaluation. They are starting to spend money more freely.
Also, keep in mind that Buenos Aires has a lot of wealthy people. Most would be surprised at just how wealthy some of these people are. Walk around Recoleta, Belgrano, Palermo or other areas of the city. The cafes near my apartment where I live aren't filled with tourists. They are filled with locals and they are freely spending a lot of money.
People are starting to spend money again and just aren't as panicked as they once were. I could be wrong, but I truly believe that this is the reason you are seeing places starting to charge more. (even local places that are mostly frequented by locals). Everyone realizes that they were lucky to be living in a dream for a period so long. Those that were lucky took advantage of the strong artificially high peso and traveled the world, bought cars or apartments. That's also why even though Menem stole money, many people on the streets I talk to say, "God bless Menom.... had it not been for him I wouldn't have been able to buy my apartment/house/car/fill in the blank".
JMHO.
Exon Reporting : Prices going up
I think the answer to this question is just pure everyday garden variety inflation. The peso is not worth anything so it takes more of them to buy anything, maybe even pussy since the girls have to eat and pay rent too.
But I'll defer to DickHead for the true reason's.
Exon
I concur fully with Exon's assessment. It's a depreciating currency and that will always lead to inflation. The only reason we Americans are getting fucked in the ass is because the current US government is following both fiscal and monetary policies that are weakening the dollar at the same time the peso is depreciating.
Always a complainer in the group,
You never had it so good in you're life. You never had so much cheap pussy coming at you from all directions. For the moment you are living in the " sweet spot " of life.
All the stars are aligned for this one perfect moment for price and beauty . Odds are we will never experience this phenomenon again in our lifetime. But you go right ahead and keep b#tching about how tough things are right now .
Starfe
I just went into one of these currency converters, and this is what they give for exchange rates:
1.00 Euro = 1.22934 USD
1.00 USD = 2.97300 ARS (Argentine Pesos)
If this is what's really happening, then I think these have remained pretty constant over the past few years. One of the reasons I keep going to Argentina is that big fat 1.23 dollar/euro rate! The US dollar has been really soft for a long time, and doesn't look to be on the brink of moving much.
My point is its a world market. If this one (Bs.As.) were to be driven higher, we'd start looking elsewhere. What the heck, some of us are already flying halfway around the world to enjoy the sport and the comraderie of fellow mongers! From my own experiences, this is still the best deal on the planet: best value and not only some of the most beautiful women I've ever met, but attitudes and demeanor that are just fun to be around. There's more to the experience than just the $$!
In fact, I believe this so much that I have talked myself into purchasing a ticket and renting an apartment for the first long weekend in November! It is my plan to practice the Dickhead Plan of the 15 Points! I intend to start from the bottom of the list and take Sr. Dickhead to dinner. Anybody else in town during this time?
El Ricardo
El Ricardo,
I hope to be down between Nov 12-20th schedule permitting.
I love Europe, but scheit! that Euro exch rate is killer, just too damn expensive to have fun!
Madaho´s-Black experiences
Friday night - got there around 10pm with General Custer, there was only couple chicas there at that time, but surely the chicas started to fill in and by 11pm there was at least 20 chicas there and maybe 5 dudes. I didn´t wait long to pick my chica, Pamela, a 22 year old Paraguayan.
Bought her a drink, made out with some DFK, and negotiated the price. She offered 250 for 1.5 hour - I thought about it and later countered with dos-cien pesos for 1.5 hours and she quickly said yes. Now later when I paid her at my apt, she was surprised to see only 200p and asked for 250p. I wasn´t sure whether there was miscommunication because of my poor castelleno (I´ve had 3 years of high school espanol but understanding castelleno, especially how double L´s are pronounced like a Z, has been difficult to understand at times - for example, llamar sounds like Sharma), and didn´t think it was worth the 18 bucks or whatever to argue about it, so I let it go at 250.
Anyways, back at my apt, she was kind of timid. She had a smoking little bod with opulent C cups on a 5´2¨frame. I told myself that I won't DATY while mongering, but just couldn´t help myself! She had a very small clitoris and it was difficult to maintain good contact. I consider my technique quite good and can usually get girls to climax, but for whatever the reason, it didn´t happen, even after quite long (20min) DATY. But damn did her ass look good during doggy!
Saturday night, went to Black's. I didn´t have change so I gave the cab driver 100pesos, and he gave me two 20´s and one 50. The guy at Black´s immediately recognized my 20´s from the cabbie as fake, and pointed out the pertinent features (one of them is there should be a faint replica of the person on the left hand white colum when viewed with a light). Oh well, 40p down the drain. Then I ordered a vodka and red bull at the bar and the waitress told met that it´d cost me the price of two drinks as I´m buying red bull AND vodka. It ended up being something like 60p extra (in addition to drink price included with the cover) - I was surprised, but again I didn´t check the price and the drink has been made. Then she has the nerve to tell me that this does not include a ¨service fee¨of 10%, 15% or ¨more.¨ I just looked at her incredulously but rememering some previous posts, I did not want to get banned from Black´s by raising a scene with the bitchy bartender, so I paid my frickin´tip. Stupid Dickfer!
I didn´t think the talent at Blacks was very good that night. The chicas were quite young, a lot of them looked like they could be in high school. Not that there´s anything wrong with that but I felt like these girls were primarily appealing their youth rather than beauty. There was constant peek-a-boo of eye contact, but I couldn´t justify the Black´s prices for any of these girls given what I´ve seen already at Madaho´s.
So off to Madaho´s - in general I think the staff at Madaho´s is a LOT less pretentious than Black´s and feel that they provide a courteous service. A burnette with a beaming smile was spotted. Her name was Melinda, and when I motioned her over, and she was again in all smiles and immediately I started to feel her legs, her soft and very grabbable flesh above the iliac crest. Melina´s very cute (9 face at Madaho´s as the lighting obscured some harsher features, but still an 8 face once examined closer later under better light), engaging, smiling. 8.5 in body, but once her clothes came off, it was more like 9.5! I take her back to a dark corner and I´m feeling her up. Her body is even better than her face. After about 45 minutes, we talk about ¨salida.¨ She asks whether I like 3somes. It turns out that she won´t go back to dude´s apartment alone as she had a ¨mal experencia,¨ and will only goto hotel by herself or go back to my palce with her friend. Well, I fucking love my apartment and don´t feel like paying extra for a hotel room that´s probably not nearly as nice as my apartment. I tell her to bring her friend over, and Sabrina´s not bad. Blond, face is like 7 (6 under the light) body 7.5 (body rating stays the same regardless of light). They love to dance and we dance at the club for about an hour, it´s 4am, so we head off to my apt.
Before entering, I ask them to wait in the hall, go in the apt myself, take out money (500p for both) from the wall safe, put away the safe key, and let them in. They love the apartment (I´m staying at Marco´s GUC and it is to be recommended - more report on this later in apt section). A few pictures were taken, ¨con ropas.¨ Very hot. Decent CBJ´s but no porn BJ as I was too distracted to direct more goal-oriented brain activity. The body on Melina´s is incredible - a definite 9.5. When she got on four reverse cowgirl, Sabrina and I were just floored by how fucking delicious her ass looks rocking away. We order pizza afterward, they leave at 7am, leaving behind a plume of cigarrette smoke.
A question for senior BA mongers-
I met a killer 20 year old chica with a 9.5 body-face at an Apt. I´m much more into having long-time (e.g. 4 hours or more) GFE in my apt - last night we went out to movie & dinner then back at my apt for about 1.5 hours of sex - paid her 400p, prearranged. Do you think this is fair for who I think is the hottest chic around? How would you negotiate for more time for less money?
Also, I'm finding that with her, I'm getting a smitten "puppy love" feeling, where I start getting a bit self conscious and I think she´s sensing that a bit too. It doesn't help that she speaks rapid fire Castelleno and keep on asking "entiendes?" and all I can say is "No" or "No, Lo Siento." I don´t usually feel this way with any chicas that I monger with but she´s starting to affect me like a hot chic back at home would (that is NO GOOD - I´m sure you all know that stupid feeling). Any advice in how to deal with this? How do you all think the Portenas feel when they meet someone that´s so different from the typical argentinian man they meet (think supersensitive ponytail man who´s obviously awed by her)?
[blue]Hi Dickfer,
My Advice: Unless you're planning to move here permanently, don't torture yourself by dabbling in a pretend foreign affair. In third world countries like the Phillippines or Central America it is possible to have a pretend long-distance foreign romance because the girls are generally pre-disposed to meet and marry an American and move to the USA. Argentina is different in that while the girls may be interested in developing a romance, it's going to be with a guy (American or otherwise) who lives here, and they generally are not interested in leaving the country.
The other barrier is the language problem. Simply put, you don't need great communication skills to fuck, but you do need them to develop a relationship.
I've witnessed too many of these situations personally, and it generally results in the guy making a lot of bad decisions (like thinking that the "working girl" isn't working any more, sending money from the USA, etc.) and in the end being emotionally tortured and feeling foolish.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Hi,
I will be in Buenos Aires from nov 15 to 21.
It will be a great pleasure for me to meet guys from this forum.
So ...
Dickfer,
Enjoy her company, but see others.
Jackson,
Nice reply.
Moondog
Dickfer, this has happened to me 20+ times in Thailand, Rio, B.A. My advice, pay her what you want, it's your money. Have a great time, but DO NOT SEND HER MONEY once you are back home!!!
Dickfer,
Good reports. NEVER pay taxis with big bills though. Always have small change. Either take out 590 from the ATM's or always pay with big bills at restaurants so you have change. People are conning you because you are letting them.
As far as the staff at Madahos you are right. They are much friendlier than at Black. I know Melina that you pulled out. I met her 2 years ago. I think I even spent a weekend with her and brought her to one of the dinners that I met Moondog at during Christmas one year. She's a really sweet girl. I never repeated with her since that weekend though. The past two years haven't been too kind to her. She has gained some weight and in the club she looks good but you should note that her facial complexion isn't that good in the light of your room. She is still a VERY sweet girl that was really great.
Jackson, is dead on target with his advice to you. If you speak no Spanish and don't live here. Your chances of a [b]meaningful[/b] relationship are ZERO. Follow Jackson's advice. He is 100% correct. Living here DEFINITELY has helped alot. I had no problems meeting girls when I was a tourist but now that I live here and tell them that....it's like taking candy from a baby. None of the girls I've asked out have turned me down. They ask how long I plan on living here and I tell them forever. You should see their faces light up.
Last night I met with a guy for dinner that reads the board but doesn't post because he was waiting for Jackson to activate his membership. I gave him some advice on buying property and he just put in an offer on an apartment. Great guy and I'm looking forward to having him as a neighbor some day. I have a lot in common with him. His love for the city equals my passion for it. This one Brasilera I met when I first moved here just moved back to BA and got in town yesterday. First thing she did was call me so I invited her to dinner to join me and this guy and his friends. Great time. Damn sweet girl. I may be out of the game for a bit while I decide what to do with her. Have a good weekend fellas.