Madahos

Golden or otherwise, if it doesn't come with a brain that knows how to turn tinder into an inferno, I'm not buying (at least, starting tomorrow, that will be my policy. Or at least I will try to use a little more discipline and think with the big head. Which is tough after tying a good one on and looking at lots of GP prancing around)

The other night, I ended up at Madahos around 1:00am after dinner and lots of drinks. I wound up buying a few drinks for my coworkers and a couple of chicas. The first girl I encountered was Brazilian and I am certain would have curled my toes. However, she asked for US$300 (if in the States, I would have said yes immediately) I told her that I would like to spend time with her but that I had left that place with equally attractive women for AR$400. Unfortunately, she saw my willingness to buy drinks (including her's without her asking) and incorrectly interpreted that as me being willing to over pay for GP. She didn't seem to be willing to negotiate so I set her free.

Saw another girl I knew. She gave me the hard sell and I was in no condition to resist. I should have. I knew what I was going to get, uninspiring sex, up-selling and drama from a gorgeous blond. I only have myself to blame.

Little warm up, straight to the main event. After a little bit I knew I was not going to be able to bust a nut with this girl. I pounded for almost 90 mins. To the point that I think she was about to offer me money if I would just give up. Walked her back to Madahos and went to 1631 Junin, both rooms were busy, hung with madam for a while had a Fanta and asked her to send one to my hotel. Girl never showed and I eventually nodded off. Straight 1707 Ste. Fe as soon as I woke up.

GP lesson learned again (lost count, not sure how many times) should have gone straight to 1707 or better yet, had a little less to drink and set up a date with Luciana Love.

Made my way here last night for maybe the first time in close to two years. Yes my friends, it can be an expensive experience factoring in all the incidentals, plus cost of the chica, but what a lineup. A horde of very attractive, big titted dewdrops. One chick from Missiones might have the best ass I have ever seen-must be that proximity to Brazil. Nearly every chick I questioned started off with the company "minimo" of 500p. This allows them to invoke the "it's not my fault" line. Clearly there is much room for negoitiation however as my very experienced, spanish speaking mongering buddy, quickly had a very nice chica down to 300p. So it can be done.

The upshot, while I have agreed in the past with many mongers that you can find similar hot chicas at less pricey boliches and at privados, that was definitely not the case last night at Madahos. So, not a cheap experience with drinks and chica cost, even if you can bust them down to 300p. But, and a big but, the quality I saw last night was very impressive, and for mongers with a fat wallet, or interested in splurging, this is an enticing joint.

Dog: I thought you were prohibited from crossing into Recoleta!

[QUOTE=Thomaso276]Dog: I thought you were prohibited from crossing into Recoleta![/QUOTE]LOL. I got my hair cut, shaved and splashed on the High Karate.

[QUOTE=Doggboy]LOL. I got my hair cut, shaved and splashed on the High Karate.[/QUOTE]Good thing I didn't I meet up with you on Saturday night. I probably wouldn't have recognized you!

Check your PM for a hot Madaho's number. Expensive but we don't want that haircut and shave to be in vain.

[QUOTE=Gauntlet77] Expensive but we don't want that haircut and shave to be in vain.[/QUOTE]Hey man, thanks. I'll just sell my Citi, GM and Ford stock and have enough left for half a blowjob and some stinky dedo.;)

Jackson-can I change my name to Stinky Dedo ?

[QUOTE=Doggboy]Hey man, thanks. I'll just sell my Citi, GM and Ford stock and have enough left for half a blowjob and some stinky dedo.;)[/QUOTE]Well Citi went up today so you should have enough for 3/4 of a blowjob.

As for some "stinky dedo", this sensitive soul is just too shy to ask the details.

[QUOTE=Gauntlet77]Well Citi went up today so you should have enough for 3/4 of a blowjob.

As for some "stinky dedo", this sensitive soul is just too shy to ask the details.[/QUOTE]You know, smell my new girlfriend, and all like that.

Man am I looking forward to visiting this club again, finding a seat somewhere to sit back and sip my drink while I watch the scene. Hoping to spot my blond Natacha Peyre look-alike, or the next best thing.

A question to recent visitors - is the minimum now really 500 pesos? Not the local porteno price, but the best price a gringo with basic spanish is likely to be able to negotiate. At least a silver lining is the peso is now near 3.50.

Also, if anyone has any recommendations on who to see or who to avoid, please let me know... feel free to send a pm if you want the info kept private and I will respect the request.

[QUOTE=Esten]Man am I looking forward to visiting this club again, finding a seat somewhere to sit back and sip my drink while I watch the scene. Hoping to spot my blond Natacha Peyre look-alike, or the next best thing.

A question to recent visitors - is the minimum now really 500 pesos? Not the local porteno price, but the best price a gringo with basic spanish is likely to be able to negotiate. At least a silver lining is the peso is now near 3.50.

Also, if anyone has any recommendations on who to see or who to avoid, please let me know. Feel free to send a pm if you want the info kept private and I will respect the request.[/QUOTE]Greetings all,

I am a long time lurker and must first express my thanks and appreciation for all of the information shared here. I just flew into BA and was eagerly looking forward to experiencing some of the local scene. First try, by luck of the draw, Madahos. Now don't get me wrong here, there were a couple of very attractive women here and it was fun to sit back and enjoy the show. It was also fun to sit there and watch the bar manager / head chica throw girl after girl at me for an hour and then follow-up every one with a semi-hard sell for a house drink. The first girl drink was quoted at AR$120 and I literally laughed out loud. I stopped laughing when that was the price thru the next four girls. Finally the head girl came over and, very nicely, explained that "this is Recoletta" and this was "normal for all of the places". I respectfully disagreed and this led to the arrival of The List. Apparently, all of my information was wrong and I should have immediately changed my mind based on seeing the 11"x8.5" sheet of paper printed off a desktop with a list of prices. (I tried to get her to give me the sheet but no go) Needless to say, I gave the head girl a nice kiss on the cheek and wished her a good night.

I must immediately point out here that her persistence and absolute conviction might have convinced me if it were not for this board. Since I know that there are much better deals and situations available in BA, it had little trouble thinking with the big head rather than jr. Keep up the good work and we'll see what happens tomorrow night.

DP

Good game plan DP, Recoleta is expensive, try the Triangle, especially this week with xmas coming up the girls need to get some $. House drinks around 50 pesos.

DP Are you sure about the chica drink price.

I (and others) have been quoted 140 pesos not 120.

. [QUOTE=Esten]DP Are you sure about the chica drink price.

I (and others) have been quoted 140 pesos not 120.[/QUOTE]Esten,

Yes, unless I misunderstood her english, the head chica said 120 pesos and she also showed me her price list which said ". $120,00" for the girls drink. I do not remember the Spanish terms but it was the first option, in the last section at the bottom of the page. She also kept pointing to it for emphasis.

DP

Thanks - I'll have to test out the 120 peso drink on my next visit to Madahos.

I stopped in Madahos recently. Not packed - about 30 girls and 15 guys. I recognized a few of them from past visits. There were a few I was interested in. This did not include a petite Uruguaya who said it was her second day and chatted my ear off on how good a decision it would be for me to choose her. Said she would do everything. But she kept talking fast and seemed a little desperate. She was willing to go for 500 pesos. I said I'd think about it.

In the end I went with a chica I've seen there twice before. I knew I could count on a fantastic time with her and it was fantastic. 500 peso offer readily accepted. Her drink was 140 pesos.

So I got the answer to my earlier question. The floor on negotiable prices is definately 500 pesos or lower. Another monger told me he had taken several from Madahos recently for 450 pesos.

Based on what I've heard, Madahos seems to be very adept at adjusting to local market conditions. Ie. The price I was quoted to take a girl out was AR$300 and this was straight from the head chica. The only thing I can think of here is that I went on Monday which was the last day of the Immaculate Conception holiday. There were only 6 girls there and I was the only guy. Low demand equaled lower prices.

I went to Players and New Port tonight but I'll post something in the appropriate sections.

DP

Based on my conversation with another customer on my last visit, I decided to go back to Madahos and test the 450 peso floor. The test failed.

There were about 25 chicas when I stopped in past 1am. Only a few I was interested in. I eventually chatted up an attractive blond who had been on her own (not with amigas) for the 45 minutes or so I had been in the club. Her name was Ambar. Slim, medium-tall blond from Cordoba, attractive face, nice body, natural C cup. She seemed to light up when I showed interest in her, a good sign I thought. I enjoyed chatting with her and decided to buy her a drink. 140 pesos. Eventually I tell Ambar I would like to take her out, but don't want to pay more than 450 pesos. She gets a sour look and says 400 pesos is not much. I clarify I said 450 pesos but her response is, oh same thing, not much. She wants 600 pesos. There is almost a minute of silence (I'm not prepared to budge) and then she says she'll do 500 pesos but only at the nearby hotel. I say I usually prefer going to my place. Well soon after we part ways and she wishes me good luck. Ha! I stayed awhile longer and left, but noticed she had spent the remaining time on her own. She could have made 450 pesos but all she got was the 20 peso cut from her drink.

Interesting, thanks for the intel. Really hard to understand these chicas logic here except based purely on pride. One could argue that they are trying to hold the line on pricing. However, this would seem difficult since there are a 100 different independent contractors each negotiating their own deal every night. For her to have so much pride that she turned down the deal for a 150 difference is dumb in my opinion. I wonder though if this is how they feel like they can assume control over the situation, by not yielding on some part of the transaction.

I am not surprised that she turned her nose at 450 pesos. Amazing. I think it comes down to the fact that these girls lack a proper education. So they cannot see that if you make 450 pesos a night and work five nights you have a nice pocket of change in your pocket. Go ahead and have an intelligent conversation with any of these Madahos women. It is not possible because it does not exist. To turn down the money because you want to hold out for 600 pesos is just plain stupid. Good for you for not giving in to her.

Esten,

Is this the Ambar you are talking about?

DWC

[QUOTE=Joe Vato]I am not surprised that she turned her nose at 450 pesos. Amazing. I think it comes down to the fact that these girls lack a proper education. So they cannot see that if you make 450 pesos a night and work five nights you have a nice pocket of change in your pocket. Go ahead and have an intelligent conversation with any of these Madahos women. It is not possible because it does not exist. To turn down the money because you want to hold out for 600 pesos is just plain stupid. Good for you for not giving in to her.[/QUOTE]If this is Ambar, I am not surprised some men will travel 7,000 miles and turn their nose at a chance to ride a beautiful mare for 150 pesos xtra. I think it comes down to some of them lacking a proper logic board. If you get a chance to tap a real beauty like this one over the course of a week when all is said and done you have done extremely well if you are at this level. When you are back in sex prison and looking out the window at snow, I would rather have the memories of a delicious honey over having the money in my bank and I showed them! To pass on a real good stable over 450 / 600 is senseless to me! Sometimes you got to pay to play! If this is Ambar I would in a heasrtbeat. Send her this way!

Hey guys.

I don't like to start something but I saw the pic and I would only give her 100p max and thats on a day I couldnt find something, she is skinny flat it's just not my type, but to each it's own. Give me some meat and nice rack and I would not spend 600 ps. For any well si shouldnt say that if the right came along I would. I'm bad.

[QUOTE=Dancesw /Chicas]Is this the Ambar you are talking about?[/QUOTE]Her hair was a bit different and she had a classier look in the club when I saw her. But yes, it is possible it could be her. If you took her out of Madahos I'm interested to hear about it (and how much you paid... lol).

[QUOTE=Joe Vato]I am not surprised that she turned her nose at 450 pesos. Amazing. I think it comes down to the fact that these girls lack a proper education. So they cannot see that if you make 450 pesos a night and work five nights you have a nice pocket of change in your pocket. Go ahead and have an intelligent conversation with any of these Madahos women. It is not possible because it does not exist. To turn down the money because you want to hold out for 600 pesos is just plain stupid. Good for you for not giving in to her.[/QUOTE]Joe, Proper education is just part of it. 95% of these women are totally shallow and really have nothing in thier head. Most of them have been.

Malested by a realtive and they become prostitues. I have dealt with women.

Like this and I pay only 300 peso. Usually I would tell her off and advised her she is cheap and slutty.

Yes she's a beautiful girl, But can she Fuck, thats the real question, not price.

Exon

Frankly, I don' see much difference in Madahos prices etc compared to 6 months ago (when adjusted for exchange rate) At least on a slow Sunday night, my impression is that any girl would accept 450$ (pesos) I picked up one of those bleached blonds which are usually the most difficult to deal with and it turned out to be quite a good experience - she actually stayed for 2.5 hours even though I didn't negotiate that in advance.

This is not to say that $450 is a good price - we all know that it's not, but oh well. Madajos is definitely fun from time to time.

Hey guys,

Just a note, if you want to fuck a blond that is almost an exact body type and face as this chick, she works at Brut which is just around the corner from Madahos. He name is Diana, and it may very well be the same girl.

Body: 9/10 firm and young, simply amazing, almost no fat and no kids, she said she was 23, small be cup tits.

Face: 7 cute but not amazing, and she smokes, so the teeth are not exactly white, haha.

Attitude: 8 solid fun girl, not stuck up in my experience. No DFK, but BBBJ and great sex. She was amazingly tight and her body is firm like a college chick!

BRUT: small spot but I like it. $50 peso entrance with drink and only had to buy 1 girl drink of $100 peso to take her out. And the door guy was genuinely nice and not an asshole.

Fun times guys.

-Copia.

[QUOTE=Dancesw /Chicas]Esten,

Is this the Ambar you are talking about?

DWC[/QUOTE]

Is this the Club Brut on Las Heras where you walk down the stairs to a lower level? I pulled a beautiful chica out of there once (and had a great time with her). But that was 5 years ago.

Could you let us know what $ the chicas there are asking these days.

Why is Madahos so expensive? It looks like you have have sex with a girl for $150 at massage places or apartments. Why pay $450? Are all so good looking there?

For the same reason some people shop at Walmart and others at trendy upscale stores for a pair of socks. A matter of personal taste.

[QUOTE=Sidney]You will discover that most of them are not good looking! It's mostly the dark lights, mucho cosmetics, and nice, suggestive clothes. AVOID![/QUOTE]I saw a very dark skinned chica from Uruguay in Madahos last week that El Sid would lick up one side and down the other. Sid- you may want to investigate.

[QUOTE=Doggboy]I saw a very dark skinned chica from Uruguay in Madahos last week that El Sid would lick up one side and down the other. Sid- you may want to investigate.[/QUOTE]There also was a dark skinned Dominicana there last week. Can't remember her name. Very friendly and quite cute. She also spoke a fair bit of English.

This place is a matter of personal taste. I wouldn't be so hasty with the "avoid" comments. But, for the budget monger, I agree that it's definitely not going to top the list.

If you're not a value monger, then it's still the place with the most and prettiest girls in BA. If anyone can direct me to a place with more girls at consistently high quality, I'm happy to try it. I was in Black twice last week and it doesn't hold a candle to Madaho's. The girls dress better but are not as pretty. Again, though, I would concede that this is just personal taste.

Finally, based on multiple nights in this place last week, I can definitively say that it, too, is feeling the effects of the economy. The girls and employees there echoed that sentiment. So, the budget monger may get his revenge yet.

[QUOTE=Stan Da Man]I was in Black twice last week and it doesn't hold a candle to Madaho's. The girls dress better but are not as pretty. Again, though, I would concede that this is just personal taste.[/QUOTE]After multiple problems in this club around 25 girls from Black moved to Hipopotamus.

Stan - the real test will be if the club and the chicas lower their prices in this economy. Given the many descriptions written on this board of the Argentine mentality, I'm inclined to think they will not, though I hope I'm wrong.

[QUOTE=Esten]Stan - the real test will be if the club and the chicas lower their prices in this economy. Given the many descriptions written on this board of the Argentine mentality, I'm inclined to think they will not, though I hope I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]Well, I doubt Madaho's (the club) will need to lower it's prices just yet. It's nowhere near as crowded as before, but it still has a lot of traffic EVERY night. It's easily the most crowded Recoleta boliche. It gets crowded earlier, stays crowded later, and has more gente than Black. Not as much traffic as before, so they're not making as much money, but they're still doing okay.

The girls at Madaho's, however, already are adjusting their prices. I personally doubt you'll find much downward adjustment at the lower threshold. From my experience, the adjustments were at the mid- and higher-ends. Those unwilling to go for less than US$300 have now adjusted their prices downward, and the starting quote (if that's the way you negotiate) is now less than it was. That's definitely what my experience was last week. And, again, I don't negotiate hard, but there was a tangible difference even from last November to now. Some of it may be that the peso is 10% less over the past two months, but I also think the slower traffic is taking it's toll.

The place you could really see this is La Lopez. That place is in its death throes. Part of it likely is the economy, but the other part is probably the fact that Bobby's no longer there. I only went in once this trip, but the place had a grand total of three dudes by 1 am on a Thursday night. It's grim. I'm told the owners are trying hard to sell.

[QUOTE=Sidney]You will discover that most of them are not good looking! It's mostly the dark lights, mucho cosmetics, and nice, suggestive clothes. AVOID![/QUOTE]It is a trade off. You can go to Black, Madaho etc and pay a grand total of over 500 pesos. But you have spent an evening and it is entertaining.

On the other hand you can go to apartments and spend $200 pesos for the exact same experience. But it is only one hour. What do you do with the other 23 hours of the day.

Anyone who says that the girls at Black or Madaho are head and shoulders above apartment girls are out of their fuckin mind.

The cutest girls do not work at night. They have families who might wonder where they are when the sun goes down.

A more important consideration is safety. What girl in her right mind will go to an apartment or love hotel with a complete stranger. It is dangerous. Apartments are less dangerous.

I will reiterate what Sidney has been trying to say since time began. If you think the girls at Black or Madaho are something special you are only talking about several girls out of dozens of girls who are at Black or Madahos. The rest are nothing to write home about.

Furthermore, if you think apartment girls don't compare to the girls at Black or Madaho, it is only because you don't know what apartments to go to.

But, at the end of the day, the cutest girls are by referral only.

They don't work in apartments and they don't have to endue the indignities of working at a Black or Madaho. They are in a class by themselves.

However, it is only human nature to claim you were with a world class beauty after you were spent $500 to $1000 pesos for an encounter with a girl at Black or Madaho.

But the $500 to $1000 pesos represents an entire evening of entertainment, although rarely ending with a true beauty - and, all in all, is money well spent.

El Alamo covers exactly the points why I spend most evenings in BA at the clubs. What else am I going to do from 10-2. A late dinner, then a drink maybe someplace else, then go to a privado and do my thing and head home?

Or hang out in a nice club, drink, check out the chicas, socialize, flirt, practice my spanish, and maybe get close and intimate with a beautiful woman. And take her back to my place, or move on to the next chica or club. And there is the adventure of finding that special one for the night. I find this highly enjoyable. Although of course the enjoyment is directly proportional to various factors (chica quality and selection, attitudes, prices, ambiance, etc) and some nights are much better or worse than others.

I have thought of tweaking this format by finishing a night at the clubs by going to a privado with high quality chicas, and picking one and taking her home. It would be a less expensive format overall. But I need a reliable privado with high caliber chicas you can take out around 1-3am, and I haven't done enough research in this area to find one.

Perhaps the true beauties are found in the privados, but that definitely has not been my experience. I would welcome a Top 5 privado list, though, since I've an open mind, and would love to be proved wrong on this point. Again, it's really a matter of personal preference, and I completely respect your point of view. If I haven't done enough research in this area, then shame on me. If you can point a fellow monger in the right direction, please do so.

I've been to a number of privados. I can't say I've been to all of the "best" ones because I don't know what that list includes, but I've spent a fair amount of time reading the board and have been to most of the better reviewed privados, and I've visited some of the better reviewed chicas.

Now, don't get me wrong: There are good looking girls at some privados. But, that has been the exception to the rule, at least in my experience, and I do believe the gals at Madaho's are head and shoulders above the privado girls.

Part of the issue for me is that I'm not a big fan of the privado experience. Jackson wrote a post on this subject long ago about Santa Fe 1707 that summarizes my thoughts better than I could. It's worth a re-print just because it's rather funny:

[QUOTE=Jackson]I don't generally care for the private apartment scene for a number of reasons, but after hearing and reading the experiences of so many Forum Members visits to the various apartments, I decided, in the name of research, that I should at least see for myself what all the interest was.

I selected what was reputed to be one of the best private apartments in the city: 1707 Santa Fe. It had received endorsements from several qualified mongers, including Andres, Capt Dave, and lately from Speculator, who seemed to have visited there every day for two weeks. Besides, the place was only six blocks from my apartment. If I was going to develop an apartment as an afternoon get-away, it seemed to meet all the requirements.

I made my first visit on a Monday afternoon in the company of Capt Dave. We arrived at the rather non-descript building on the corner on Sante Fa and Rodriguez Pena at 5pm. From all the glorifications in the write-ups, I had expected some sort of elegant Victorian townhouse, but I was instead confronted with a unimpressive concrete building with a drably painted foyer leading to a cramped 1950's style elevator. We exited the elevator into a small hallway with a single door and an adjacent intercom. As Capt Dave rang the buzzer, I observed the security camera peering down at us from the ceiling.

We were greeted by a middle aged woman who invited us into the foyer. Again, I was unimpressed with the decor, which consisted of dusty, thread-bare carpeting, dusty, thread-bare furniture, and windows covered by dusty, faded curtains. We were quickly escorted into the "Viewing Room" decorated in the same worn motif, where we had a seat and awaited our opportunity to select our chica de jour. Even the doors in this place had a worn-out look consisting of old wood that was greyed, cracked and bare from years of use, without the benefit of having received even a single new coat of varnish in years.

One by one, in quick succession, the four available chicas entered wearing bra and panties, introduced themselves with the obligatory peck on the cheek, and quickly departed, the entire sequence being completed within a minute. I selected "Barbara", a slim, medium height chica with light brown hair. After advising the "Madam" of my choice, "Barbara" returned and led me across the hallway into a small bedroom where I was invited to wait.

As I waited, I took note of my surroundings. One reason I don't like the apartments, or in fact any "on premise" venue, is that I always imagine the stereotypical small room furnished with a single bed, with stained sheets on a mattress that it was bent in the middle from overuse, illuminated by a single bare bulb dangling from the ceiling. Thus I was pleased to note that instead I was comfortably ensconced in a small room furnished with a single bed, with stained sheets on a mattress that it was bent in the middle from overuse, illuminated by a single bare bulb on a lamp next to the bed. Whew! That was close.

Barbara returned a minute later to advise me of the pricing structure: $60 pesos for 30 minutes, $80 pesos for 45 minutes, plus an additional $20 pesos for a BBBJ, which I had expected to pay directly to the chica as an extra inducement, but which had now been apparently incorporated into the official pricing structure. I opted for the 45 minutes with the BBBJ, and handed her a $100 peso note. She asked me if I wanted anything to drink, and I asked for a coke with ice.

She returned in 5 minutes with a dirty glass filled with a warm, flat, dark liquid that she insisted was coke. Miraculously, just one sip was sufficient to satisfy my thirst. She closed the door as I sat on the bed and noted the time on my watch, which I had placed on the table for the specific purpose of determining if 45 minutes actually meant 45 minutes.

Barbara next offered me a stained white towel the size of a postage stamp, and asked if I wanted to take a shower, which I declined having just showered a couple of hours ago. Besides, I could just imagine the condition of the bathroom. She then produced a condom, whereupon I advised her that we would be using mine as I pulled one of my own brand out of my pocket.[/QUOTE]