Cafe Orleans

[QUOTE=TodoJetLag;423637]Hey guys this is my first post but just wanted to let you know. Met a girl named Valentina at Orleans. She is 28 with a great little body and seems really cool when you talk to her. When you get her alone it goes downhill fast. Always talking about more money. Always trying to get you to take her older and not so hot friend too. She talks a good game but not worth the headache. TL is right. I have known Romina / Hello, Kitty for about 2 years and she has a great body and attitude. She can be a little crazy at times but sometimes that can be fun too and a great attitude and body. Happy mongering and thanks for everyone who posts I have learned a lot. Saw Estrella for the first time last week. She said that she did'nt like sex as much as the BBBJ and swallowing. What a girl![/QUOTE]Wondering how much Valentina wanted and how much you paid

They took up left side of the coffeeshop to themselves. Were too aggressive for my taste. Where are the locals?

Missing the good ole' Exedra ambience.

[QUOTE=Rocky2;423638]Wondering how much Valentina wanted and how much you paid[/QUOTE]

I punish myself every time I visit but I do like to have a Quilmes on draught. I was in the Dominican Republic in April and let me say the chicas there were all 18-19 and sweet but this Dominicana sludge in Orleans has to go.

Yesterday after my girlfriend left I got antsy, and wanted to get out I had zero bullets and could notfuck anything if I wanted to so I. Went to have a coffee and people watch. The place was packed I counted twice there were 41 chicas in there. Most I have ever seen. Might have beena few more downstairs smoking also.

Like Moths to alight bulb on a summer nights some dumbass Americans came in wearing university of Texas hoodies screaming boludo tourista. The immediately went and pulled the house pig by the window, the girl with the beer gut and a skanky Dominican. The real pisser was the fact that the hottest chica in the p lace was sitting right next to the skank WTF were you thinking dude? She was even up to my standards. I wish stranger could of been there yesterday. That will have to wait a few weeks before we team up again.

This proves that American men are so put down by women they are afraid to talk to hot girls, I was before 8 years here now in the US I'll walk up to any. Girl and throw a line or two at her sometimes I get laid sometimes they say no.

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[QUOTE=Gato Hunter; 423747]Yesterday after my girlfriend left I got antsy, and wanted to get out I had zero bullets and could notfuck anything if I wanted to so I. Went to have a coffee and people watch. The place was packed I counted twice there were 41 chicas in there. Most I have ever seen. Might have beena few more downstairs smoking also.

Like Moths to alight bulb on a summer nights some dumbass Americans came in wearing university of Texas hoodies screaming boludo tourista. The immediately went and pulled the house pig by the window, the girl with the beer gut and a skanky Dominican. The real pisser was the fact that the hottest chica in the p lace was sitting right next to the skank WTF were you thinking dude? She was even up to my standards. I wish stranger could of been there yesterday. That will have to wait a few weeks before we team up again.

This proves that American men are so put down by women they are afraid to talk to hot girls, I was before 8 years here now in the US I'll walk up to any. Girl and throw a line or two at her sometimes I get laid sometimes they say no.

Typing is coming back fast now[/QUOTE]One of the best advantages of Orleans is that it is a good people watching place. A coffee or vino and a good seat is worth the price. I met Miami Bob there and we had a blast.

[QUOTE=Gato Hunter; 423747]<snip

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Bob

Tonight the poqer wasas out on the entire blocks, Mongering by candles loghstsuckss, good news is that FLOR from mendOza is back intimen along with her sister.

I don't think these fuckers paid the eletric bill they are still living amish style, when I walked by today they were stringing an extension cord down the street. Looked like a major quillombo in progress. Clark griswold was in charge I think.

Seems like every time I am back some of the decent looking girls have left and a few more horrors have arrived. As the last few days I have only seen one during daytime that I would consider decent; Roky2 and Tequila Tim's 'leg lock-girl'.

The rest are horrible, some new once pushes the level of ugliness possible for a girl that makes a living of her body.

Leg lock girl gets lots of action, she hardly sits down before she gets down to the telo, she gets more traffic than the freeway now!

At about 1700 the Mendoza girls arrive, all 4 of them are in town now and they are all good to go as long as you get a good connection. (It is funny to see the looks in the eyes of the houspigs when they arrive the pigs have had no action all day and the moment the Mendoza girls show up they get action).

The Mendoza girls increase the quality with about 400, but like I said do not show up before about 1700.

Flor the tall one are going away for 3 months from August, do not know if the rest will stay then, she is the leader of the pack.

Stranger

[QUOTE=Stranger; 424193]Seems like every time I am back some of the decent looking girls have left and a few more horrors have arrived. As the last few days I have only seen one during daytime that I would consider decent; Roky2 and Tequila Tim's 'leg lock-girl'.

The rest are horrible, some new once pushes the level of ugliness possible for a girl that makes a living of her body.

Leg lock girl gets lots of action, she hardly sits down before she gets down to the telo, she gets more traffic than the freeway now!

At about 1700 the Mendoza girls arrive, all 4 of them are in town now and they are all good to go as long as you get a good connection. (It is funny to see the looks in the eyes of the houspigs when they arrive the pigs have had no action all day and the moment the Mendoza girls show up they get action).

The Mendoza girls increase the quality with about 400, but like I said do not show up before about 1700.

Flor the tall one are going away for 3 months from August, do not know if the rest will stay then, she is the leader of the pack.

Stranger[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. I always stop in while in the area knowing I'm not going to take anything out. It still has a little of the ambiance of an Argentine cafe. The accents like the cookies with the coffee, the homemade chips, the draft beer. If only we can get rid of the Dominicana bottom feeders.

An Argentine friend and I were in Orleans yesterday. 4 small Stellas. 180 pesos. When my friend asked why so much, He was told they have new owners and customers will pay it, so why not charge it. Biggest asses on some ugly mofos I have ever seen in Buenos Aires.

[QUOTE=DblGear;424200]An Argentine friend and I were in Orleans yesterday. 4 small Stellas. 180 pesos. When my friend asked why so much, He was told they have new owners and customers will pay it, so why not charge it. Biggest asses on some ugly mofos I have ever seen in Buenos Aires.[/QUOTE]180? I think I might have to find a new stop. That's 45 a piece. The last time I was there it was about ar25 each and I thought that was high. Especially while you're surrounded by a bunch of ugly Dominicanas. Thanks for the update.

Anyone up for drink-coffee this afternoon?

[QUOTE=SunSeeker;424422]Anyone up for drink-coffee this afternoon?[/QUOTE]I'll take a raincheck for Sept.

Hi, being in town for one week for the job, I would like to start my exploration with a smooth place where I can watch and learn. From your threads, I can see that Orlean Cafe is becoming too greedy and is a rip off? I really like to watch and talk, ending sometimes when love strike with a girl. So any other suggestion? I am near the Train Station retiro.

If anyone wants to join, first beer one me!

Thanks all for your posting, it is so instructive!

[QUOTE=EnviroSex; 425226]Hi, being in town for one week for the job, I would like to start my exploration with a smooth place where I can watch and learn. From your threads, I can see that Orlean Cafe is becoming too greedy and is a rip off? I really like to watch and talk, ending sometimes when love strike with a girl. So any other suggestion? I am near the Train Station retiro.

If anyone wants to join, first beer one me!

Thanks all for your posting, it is so instructive![/QUOTE]During the day there is not much else.

At night there are a few others.

TL

[QUOTE=EnviroSex; 425226]Hi, being in town for one week for the job, I would like to start my exploration with a smooth place where I can watch and learn. From your threads, I can see that Orlean Cafe is becoming too greedy and is a rip off? I really like to watch and talk, ending sometimes when love strike with a girl. So any other suggestion? I am near the Train Station retiro.

If anyone wants to join, first beer one me!

Thanks all for your posting, it is so instructive![/QUOTE]Just start with the privados first. They are safest for newbies before graduating to street walkers!

[QUOTE=EnviroSex; 425226]Hi, being in town for one week for the job, I would like to start my exploration with a smooth place where I can watch and learn. From your threads, I can see that Orlean Cafe is becoming too greedy and is a rip off? I really like to watch and talk, ending sometimes when love strike with a girl. So any other suggestion? I am near the Train Station retiro.

If anyone wants to join, first beer one me!

Thanks all for your posting, it is so instructive![/QUOTE]Just call HelloKitty (Romina) , she lives a few blocks away from you and is not hit and miss like a Privado will be.

She will be gentle with you I'm sure!

Or Mara too.

TL.

I will gladly accept your offer of a beer too!

Girls who hang out in Cafe Orleans are mostly old, obese, ugly with nasty attitudes. I had a hard time finding any girl worth a fuck.

That's a double rip off.

Who the hell would want to hang out at that place? Boycott the stupid place.

[QUOTE=DblGear;424200]An Argentine friend and I were in Orleans yesterday. 4 small Stellas. 180 pesos. When my friend asked why so much, He was told they have new owners and customers will pay it, so why not charge it. Biggest asses on some ugly mofos I have ever seen in Buenos Aires.[/QUOTE]

The place sucks. Overpriced coffee and beer. Nobody eats here. I peeked in the window the other day and just kept on walking. Ugly chicas. Why is this even a thread here? I just fucked a 19 yo with a great attitude that is in a different world from these nasties so why even bother? Are you guys so desperate? But if you need the place enjoy it.

[QUOTE=WhiteCat;426548]The place sucks. Overpriced coffee and beer. Nobody eats here. I peeked in the window the other day and just kept on walking. Ugly chicas. Why is this even a thread here? I just fucked a 19 yo with a great attitude that is in a different world from these nasties so why even bother? Are you guys so desperate? But if you need the place enjoy it.[/QUOTE]I think this place has been heavily promoted by "Stranger" in his recent posts.

I personally abhor this place. Can't even be seen dead at this joint!

[QUOTE=Member #3320; 426549]I think this place has been heavily promoted by "Stranger" in his recent posts.

I personally abhor this place. Can't even be seen dead at this joint![/QUOTE]For those of us that have been coming here for awhile there is a sentimental attachment. Used to be (and I've only been there once in for fucking ever) at times club chicas would work there during the day. I imagine that still happens but probably less than before. I agree though, the last time I was there (about a month ago) it was pretty fucking scary.

Along Ave Florida and adjacent streets, there are plenty of nice, clean, upscale restaurants that serve 3-course steak dinner with a glass of wine for US$500. So rent and wages there are not that expensive.

The Orleans fucker that charges $9 for a coffee to sit around, sniffing the asses of ugly, nasty, smelly old working girls, has got to be a crazy bastard. I heard he also gouges the ugly girls $50 a day to hang around his place. This is so crazy it's ridiculous.

There may be a good opportunity here for business-minded bros. Rent a place nearby, set up a coffee / beer / wine bar, charging more humane prices like $3-5 for coffee and beers. Recruit a bunch of young, pretty girls in sexy, classy clothing. Give them free coffee and breakfast (and/or SEX and LOVE) if you have to, just so they hang around. Charge them a flat pick up fee of $15-20 every time they pick up a dick at your place. Pretty soon all prominent and horny citizens of BsAs would be hanging out in this cafe. .

Maybe you can name this place the "Hard Dick Cafe " or something similar. It may grow into BsAs' more famous institution. Any Harvard Business School professor in this thread, please critique this business plan.

My observations are that small retail businesses in BsAs are very competitive. Witness lots of nice, clean, fairly large restaurants around the Ave Florida tourists area that offer 3-course steak dinner with a glass of wine for US$5.

Excedra was a very nice, airy spot to sit on the sidewalk, gawking girls and people. The coffee and deserts there are priced in line with the market. It's wait staff is also very good. There are quite a few girls sitting around there waiting for johns.

Why is Excedra dead and Orleans going strong even at ridiculous prices? Something is wrong here.

If the ugly girls have to pay US$50 a day to hang out at Orleans then they must be making good money. Otherwise they would be hanging out on the streets.

Going by the quality and prices of the old, ugly, nasty girls in Orleans, I would never go to BsAs to buy sex.

Wonder if the girls hanging out in the streets look and feel any better?

[QUOTE=Sidney;426555]My best explanation is bribes and pay-offs must make it non economic. But their is something strange about the AR mentality. They don't copy successful businesses! (i.e. El Alamo)![/QUOTE]

Went past Excedra this morning and a door was open. Looked like some work being done inside. So maybe one day, soon, they will open again.

[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 426554]Along Ave Florida and adjacent streets, there are plenty of nice, clean, upscale restaurants that serve 3-course steak dinner with a glass of wine for US$500. So rent and wages there are not that expensive.

The Orleans fucker that charges $9 for a coffee to sit around, sniffing the asses of ugly, nasty, smelly old working girls, has got to be a crazy bastard. I heard he also gouges the ugly girls $50 a day to hang around his place. This is so crazy it's ridiculous.

There may be a good opportunity here for business-minded bros. Rent a place nearby, set up a coffee / beer / wine bar, charging more humane prices like $3-5 for coffee and beers. Recruit a bunch of young, pretty girls in sexy, classy clothing. Give them free coffee and breakfast (and / or SEX and LOVE) if you have to, just so they hang around. Charge them a flat pick up fee of $15-20 every time they pick up a dick at your place. Pretty soon all prominent and horny citizens of BsAs would be hanging out in this cafe. .

Maybe you can name this place the "Hard Dick Cafe " or something similar. It may grow into BsAs' more famous institution. Any Harvard Business School professor in this thread, please critique this business plan.[/QUOTE]My rent jumped from 2300. 00 pesos to 14, 000. 00 pesos and my place was 5 blocks from Orleans and half a block from Excedra on the same sidewalk. Cordoba and Pelegrini.

My light bill went from 200p to 3000p per month due to over usage.

Wages and taxes are out of control.

Payoffs to the city inspectors, health inspectors and undercover police officers are huge.

One night I was in the middle of 2 tables at my place with the minister of labor on one side and 3 city inspectors on the other side.

Labor wanted 8k pesos and the inspectors wanted 6k pesos.

The undercover cocksuckers would park accross the street 4 nights a week and wait for my girls to show up before they would waltz in and demand money.

After all this horse shit you have the employees that ONLY want to sue you, nothing else!

They will and they will win.

Orleans does not make their money selling you a shitty coffee or beer, they make it by charging the girls 200p each per day.

Plus the owner has 2 or 3 Hooker bars downtown too and he is a partner in 4 more.

TL

What kind of business you run that you have to pay off that much for the crooked government employees?

I sincerely hope the rest of the legitimate businesses don't have to put up to this bullshit.

If Argentina is this corrupt, then she is sitting on a big powder keg, likely blow her ass split apart.

[QUOTE=TejanoLibre; 426584]My rent jumped from 2300. 00 pesos to 14, 000. 00 pesos and my place was 5 blocks from Orleans and half a block from Excedra on the same sidewalk. Cordoba and Pelegrini.

My light bill went from 200p to 3000p per month due to over usage.

Labor wanted 8k pesos and the inspectors wanted 6k pesos.

The undercover cocksuckers would park accross the street 4 nights a week and wait for my girls to show up before they would waltz in and demand money. TL[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 426591]What kind of business you run that you have to pay off that much for the crooked government employees?

I sincerely hope the rest of the legitimate businesses don't have to put up to this bullshit.

If Argentina is this corrupt, then she is sitting on a big powder keg, likely blow her ass split apart.[/QUOTE]It was a legitimate Resto-Bar open for lunch and dinner.

The Boys from this site corrupted me and forced me to have girls there at night so they could have dinner with them and then fuck them upstairs in the dinning room or just take them home.

Best Lomo in town for the money and you could fuck the doorgirl!

Told the police that it was just a coincidence that all of my girlfriends were hookers and that I was not going to pay a bribe since I did not get a cut.

They shut me down at least 4 times.

Finally gave up.

It was called L'alliance and there is a huge thread on this site under that title but the thread is closed.

You are still welcome to read through it though.

TL

Hey! Don't look back. Think of the possibilities in a few months time when this country finally devalues!

[QUOTE=TejanoLibre; 426596]It was a legitimate Resto-Bar open for lunch and dinner.

The Boys from this site corrupted me and forced me to have girls there at night so they could have dinner with them and then fuck them upstairs in the dinning room or just take them home.

Best Lomo in town for the money and you could fuck the doorgirl!

Told the police that it was just a coincidence that all of my girlfriends were hookers and that I was not going to pay a bribe since I did not get a cut.

They shut me down at least 4 times.

Finally gave up.

It was called L'alliance and there is a huge thread on this site under that title but the thread is closed.

You are still welcome to read through it though.

TL[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Morgando69;426601]Hey! Don't look back. Think of the possibilities in a few months time when this country finally devalues![/QUOTE]Unfortunately you will still have to deal with the corruption that will eventually ruin your business,

I literally would not run a business in Argentina if you gave it to me for free.

I read the thread about L'Alliance. It's a good, juicy story about hard work and struggles among the working men and women.

That's a very interesting concepts of good food, good wines, good companies of the bros, and good sex, all in the same premises. Would have loved to partake when I was in BsAs.

I don't know the laws and practices re prostitution and pimping in Argentina, but there are a lot of bars obviously provide conduits for prostitutes to sell sex, like Orleans, Madaho, Black etc. But I heard that even the venerable and high-class Madaho was shut down by LE this week. So looks like anti-prostitution laws are now seriously enforced.

The areas around Cordoba, 9 Julio, Corriente are convenient, but may be too busy and too public, such that the corrupt leeches would quickly find out and squeeze everyone to pay off for their good times. I wonder if it can still be done at a more discreet, private place.

I feel for your hardships. Would definitely partake in your tours when I am in BS As again. Buen Suerte!

[QUOTE=TejanoLibre; 426596]It was a legitimate Resto-Bar open for lunch and dinner.

The Boys from this site corrupted me and forced me to have girls there at night so they could have dinner with them and then fuck them upstairs in the dinning room or just take them home.

Best Lomo in town for the money and you could fuck the doorgirl!

Told the police that it was just a coincidence that all of my girlfriends were hookers and that I was not going to pay a bribe since I did not get a cut.

They shut me down at least 4 times.

Finally gave up.

It was called L'alliance and there is a huge thread on this site under that title but the thread is closed.

You are still welcome to read through it though.

TL[/QUOTE]

Went by Orleans for a quick drink about 18:00. There was not a house pig but the house of pigs, good God what happened to this place? In June you could usually find one or two doable chicas here, but holy shit Batman it was wall to wall pigs. Even one of the sisters was there and she has plumped up pretty good. Most of the women there appeared to have fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. Not a good start to my stay

[QUOTE=Doppelganger;427539]Went by Orleans for a quick drink about 18:00. There was not a house pig but the house of pigs, good God what happened to this place? In June you could usually find one or two doable chicas here, but holy shit Batman it was wall to wall pigs. Even one of the sisters was there and she has plumped up pretty good. Most of the women there appeared to have fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. Not a good start to my stay[/QUOTE]What! No Christina look-alikes?

Hehehe. House of ugly pigs and expensive coffees. .

I don't know how the old, ugly hookers manage to sell their ugly and smelly bodies and nasty personalities. .

[QUOTE=Doppelganger;427539]Went by Orleans for a quick drink about 18:00. There was not a house pig but the house of pigs, good God what happened to this place? In June you could usually find one or two doable chicas here, but holy shit Batman it was wall to wall pigs. Even one of the sisters was there and she has plumped up pretty good. Most of the women there appeared to have fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. Not a good start to my stay[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 427543]Hehehe. House of ugly pigs and expensive coffees. .

I don't know how the old, ugly hookers manage to sell their ugly and smelly bodies and nasty personalities. .[/QUOTE]I posted this before....... "The place sucks. Overpriced coffee and beer. Nobody eats here. I peeked in the window the other day and just kept on walking. Ugly chicas. Why is this even a thread here? I just fucked a 19 yo with a great attitude that is in a different world from these nasties so why even bother? Are you guys so desperate? But if you need the place enjoy it."

I think BA's market is way overpriced with low quality supply.

Perhaps mongers may do better in other locations?

[QUOTE=WhiteCat;427592]I posted this before. "The place sucks. Overpriced coffee and beer. Nobody eats here. I peeked in the window the other day and just kept on walking. Ugly chicas. Why is this even a thread here? I just fucked a 19 yo with a great attitude that is in a different world from these nasties so why even bother? Are you guys so desperate? But if you need the place enjoy it."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 427619]I think BA's market is way overpriced with low quality supply.

Perhaps mongers may do better in other locations?[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. There are much better places to monger that are much cheaper. Not to mention the extra time and expense just to get here from just about anywhere else in the world. There are great deals here if you live here and speak at least some spanish. Or if you have contacts or if you use this forum, it helps alot. But for the week or two a year monger it is a lot more difficult. The current goverment doesn't help things much either.

[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 427619]I think BA's market is way overpriced with low quality supply.

Perhaps mongers may do better in other locations?[/QUOTE]Only if paying "stupid gringo" prices. I moved here from Rio in June because the p4p is less expensive here in BA. Many chicas available in the 300-400 peso range. Even for someone like me who mangles the spanish language LOL.