Wake Up And Smell The Coffee
It is yahoo, head-up-there-asses tourist that drive up the prices for the girls plain and simple. Up go the prices, down goes the quality. It happens over, and over again and you still have morons talking about how it is the booming economy. There are guys on this board who don't even have the balls to throw a chick out of their own place for god's sake. Ridiculous!
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Hi Big Bob 7,
I guess I'll get the argument started by stating that I believe that this entire argument is overstated, primarily because don't think the tourists represent a large enough percentage of the overall market for sexual services here in BA to have any appreciable effect on the pricing. The fact is that the scene here in BA is setup to serve the Argentinos, not tourists. However, I think many tourists mistakenly perceive Buenos Aires as having the same economic dynamics as places such as Costa Rica, the Philippines and Thailand, all of which are places where the tourists are the primary customer group, and where their purchasing behavior can and does effect the market. In contrast, I doubt that tourists here represent more than 5% of the overall market, a percentage that simply cannot have any appreciable influence on the local prices. By way of example, just go into Madahos and do a head count. All protestations aside, the majority of their customers are Argentinos, not tourists.
Flame Away!
Thanks,
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Jackson. The voice of reason.
Jackson said it correct. In Thailand (where I will be right before I go to BA) The tourist market is a big influence on pricing so much so that in Dec. Jan. Feb. (high season) the price can go up 50-100%. Everyone knows it. That is all you see is tourists. No locals. I'm sure there are chicas in BA who think they can big money all the time, no problem throw them back. Just like the vendors at the market some you can't get to budge on the price. Smile and keep walking. For me that is half the fun when they call you back and agree to your price. Just my 1 baht of observation.
Jackson - you are missing the point!
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You are right when you say that tourists represent a small percentage of the overall market (although I would guess that the percentage of tourists present in Madahos does NOT equal the percentage of girls who leave with tourists rather then locals) but none-the-less that is not the problem.
There has developed a 3-tier pricing structure.
1) Locals.
2) Residents and tourists who speak Spanish and understand "the scene"
3) Non-Spanish or "limited-Spanish" speaking tourists.
The problem, at least for you and me, is that group 3 over-spending has resulted in chicas who say things like my ex-favorita in Cattos "I can't accept less then 100 dollars from an American", or the 36 year old (English speaking) chica who decided she was VIP level only (in spanish VIP means"only screw clueless Americans) and would not even take 100 bucks, as in her mind that was still "poca plata"
Since the line between group 2 and 3 is somewhat fuzzy (especially when viewed from ChicaLand) the price of pussy in ANY club that caters to even some tourists has skyrocketed for all of us, with a decline in quality-of-experience. The days when chicas here liked to f**k have been largely replaced by chicas collecting high-priced scalps (with exceptions of course, but fewer and fewer all the time)
For this reason, many "veterans" have stopped posting reviews of any kind. We have NO desire to have our new fishing holes pissed in by a bunch of guys who don't understand the importance (to us, at least) of them "following the rules"
Being referred to as "Price-Police" makes me even less willing to share - what a foolish and ungrateful way to repay those who bestowed the knowledge that has saved so many mongers from being cheated and robbed for not understanding (or believing) how it works here. I have found several new privados that have several pretty girls for reasonable prices, and I cringe whenever some newbe stumbles into one and decides to raise the bar all on his own. Bars, especially in Argentina are EASY to raise and practically impossible to lower.
So here's the solution. As Nancy Reagen put it "Just say No". I realize that's about as tough for a stimulated monger to do as not taking that shot of smack is for a junkie, but try, for gods sakes, to hold your ground. The immediate benifit is that the girls who do give in to your taking control will almost always respond with a better performance.
You may not like it, but youse new guys have done WAY more to push up the price of pussy for all of us then even Kirchners fine economic policies!
OK, off my soapbox, perhaps for the last time.
David
Will Capt Dave please post the RULES, so we all know
Very smart post Puma, and very good way to put things into perspective. I say to each his own. Pay what you want, try not to overpay, but don't be afraid to spend your money how you want to. The only person who has the right to tell me how to spend my money is the one helping me make it.
Quick recap.
Privados 100 AR 30 minutes, 150 AR 1 hour.
Take out from privados 150-200 AR.
Websites 150-300 AR.
Area VIP 200-400 AR.
Madahos 300 AR.
Black 300-600 AR.
Stay within your tax bracket And you should be fine. I have personaly stopped going to all privados, so Dave you can breathe a sigh of relief. I only do Madahos and the ocasional web girl, fsio.
I wouldn't dictate prices to anyone, I would just advise people on what the going rate is at each individual establishment. If you "feel" like spending 200 US, go to Black, if you "feel" like spending 150 AR, go to a privado or check the internet. Do as you will, just try not to spend more than the going rate at any place.
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