Great Night, but a lot of cash
I am new to this forum, but being in BA this week I am very appreciative of all of the information. I was in Black last night with a friend and picked up a great girl there. I could not pronounce her name but I called her Lola. She was 19/20 brown long hair, brown eyes and very cute and "innocent".
I think we messed up on the whole inexpensive aspect as we sat in a booth against the window and smoked a nice Cigar and had a few drinks. We also looked as if we had money (watches, clothes...)
I was expecting some of the dollar ranges that I had heard (being optomistic) and she came back with 400. Very worth it so I said yes. She was very affectionate, kissing, holding hand and hugging and then we got to the hotel room. She then proceeded to tell me 400 US$ not pesos (rookie mistake there) Luckily I did not have that much cash with me at that time (I probably would have paid it given how much I drank) so I got off for 250 US$.
Is Black just really expensive or did I get taken? I know it is hard to know one way or the other, but I just do not feel like spending 400 US$ all the time while I am here.
[blue]Hi DavidMarlow,
Sounds like a pretty typical Black experience to me: You know when you walk in the door that it's going to turn out this way.
One word of advice, which would apply when negotiating with chicas in any situation in Buenos Aires: Always make it clear in the beginning, and definitely before you leave the club, that you are talking in pesos, not dollars. Any chica that insists on negotiating in dollars should be avoided, period.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Normal Black's experience.
There's been some discussion recently here regarding Black's pricing - my own personal observation and opinion is that the standard pricing for Blacks at $200 US or $600 Pesos is the norm. This pricing is for the standard 1hr to 90min session that most girls do, although there is a LOT of YMMV on this. I've pulled a girl out of blacks about a dozen times over the last 3 plus months I've been in BA and it's ranged anywhere from 90 min on the shortest time side to all night sessions with the girl leaving very late morning or afternoon hour the next day on the long side) Cost side has sometimes been a bit under 600p, and sometimes a bit over.
If you're paying over that, unless you're negotiating for a specific longer session scenario, then yes I'd say you're paying more than the 'norm'. If not, just like at any established place, you're paying the expected range.
I pulled a girl out of here last Sunday - my range is pretty broad in terms of trying different girls from different places, but that night I was in the mood for a Madahos or Blacks pull and since I'd been haunting Madahos a bit more than usual lately I went to Blacks. Same standard 30p entry / first drink, and given it was a Sunday, the lineup was still fairly decent.
There's been some other discussions on quality of girls at Blacks - I'm not going to argue it in this posting. Suffice it to say that in the only time period that I can speak to - the past 3 months or so I've been living in BA - the quality level has flucutations but I've found no other pool of consistent good looking working girls better than here or at Madahos. Truthfully, my opinion is that the level is the same between Blacks and Madahos - and it's not one you can gauge with just one or a few visits. I've been to both places when I didnt' see a girl I would take on some nights - but varying for time of night, day of the week, and fluctuations through the month, on average it's usually pretty good - with a few I'd never take and wonder how the heck they managed to get to work there, the majority in the middle that are all ok but nothing to get excited about, a few good to very good looking (both face and body) and a few quite excellent specimens of the natural and augmented female specimen.
I base my tastes on growing up and living in California. I have no weird fetishes on body weight, proportions, etc. And I believe that while I'm personally fairly picky and selective, my 1-10 scale is pretty on par with most standard American males. While none of these Blacks girls rates a 10 on my own personal scale (10 being say your Playboy centerfold, 9 being your average Playboy bunny, 5 being the homely girl with the extra 20-25 lbs we've all seen in college and thought we'd never do but did during some drunken frat party, and 1 being the fattest, most disgusting female I've ever seen) there are on any average given nights at least 1-2 girls that rate a 9 if you don't mind paying the extra fee the dancers rate and ask for, and a decent half dozen or more in the 7-8 category.
My review is on a girl I've seen three times before, name withheld but I consider her pretty standard for the 8 scale girls I've pulled out of there. There's no negotiations anymore since she knows me but like most of the Blacks girls, when I first pulled her out she opened with the $200 US or $600 peso price. I always go for either TLN or long sessions (3 or more hours) so I paid initially 750p which eventually just settled into 600p regardless of the length of time I'm with her, as one would expect with a girl you repeat a number of times with. She stayed a complete TLN with sleep over lasting around 9hrs.
Like about half the girls at Blacks, she'll turn and just walk away if you even attempt to roll your eyes or claim no one is worth the quoted price. Like any transaction based on economics, she gets away with walking because more times than not, she's right. There's no need for her to go with me or some other guy at less than $600pesos that night as more times than not, she'll get the $600p or more and not go home empty. Sure, she's wrong sometimes but for her and about half the girls at Blacks, it's a purely no-brainer money in the bank decision to just not waste time with you bargaining.
The other half does seem to allow some bargaining down, or opens with a slightly lower price - sometimes quoted in US dollars but usually is either 400 or more like 500pesos. Depends again on supply / demand that night but from my own perspective, it's usually the girls I wouldn't go with anyways that comes down from the standard pricing of roughly $200 US. None of the girls I've seen and talked to that on my own scale rate a 8 or above comes off the $200 US / 600peso price, and personally while I think there's some wiggle room on some select nights when it is slower, I personally don't choose to do so for the relatively small cost savings.
Session was quite good - multiple pops and the bj was bbbj but it sort of evolved to that after she had seen me twice. As a norm, I've found that Blacks (and Madahos) girls are much less likely to do bbbj on the first session, but that ALL girls I've been with does after two or more repeats with them (at least for me) This is distinctly different than some other clubs I've been to, such as the Triangle ones of Cattos and Hooks where one can expect it to be the other way around - that most of those girls do bbbj from the start as the norm and it's the ones that don't that are the exceptions.
Drinks have been the subject of price discussions as well, but again, so far in my visits I've never been ripped off and depending on what the girl ordered, the price has been either $60 to 80 pesos.
I've never taken a non-radio taxi from the place so I can't speak to any scam ride reports. But I'd say that anyone who takes a non-radio taxi pretty much brought it on themselves and should blame themselves and not the club.
