Argentine Economy

Jackson,

I'm not going to stand for CockSuckers mixing my name up with Drugs and You'd better do something about it.

Exon

[QUOTE=Exon123]here's two cases I know of personally. Both guys had spotless criminal records, nothing more than minor traffic violations.

A Drug Dealer, again with a spotless record. He was never with in a mile of his Drugs. Always paid someone else to do his dirty work. Was driving down I-10 not all that far from the Mexican border. He's pulled over and they find $45,000 in cash in his car. He got 3 1/2 years with the Fed's. In both cases they "Rolled" for lighter sentences by the way.[/QUOTE]Did you forget YOU volunteered this information, effectively going off topic. Now maybe I misunderstood your intimate knowledge of this drug dealers work habits, schemes, prosecutions and other legal troubles, as you knowing this person as you stated " personally ". But I am sure you can see why. So if they aren't your friends, you must watch a hell of alot of CourtTV.

So give it a rest, or did I hit a nerve? ;)

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You guys obviously hate each other, and I've only skimmed the most recent posts. But I will tell you this, if you are carrying some sum of cash over $9999.99 then you are going to be answering some questions.

In fact, if any of you guys watch 20/20 or PrimeTime Live on ABC, a few years ago they were showing how the FL highway patrol / state troppers were intentionally stopping people and confiscating money.

Now it really doesnt matter if they take $2000 or $10000. If you have under $10000, they will probably just seize the money.

They can't do that you say? Sure they can. You know why? Cause the cost of hiring a lawyer, taking time off from your job, and fighting "the system" (also corrupt in the US, just look at how the DAs, Judges and Police all share the same building) you will lose $2-10K trying to fight it. And then the cop just has to LIE and say he suspected you.

And if you are carrying over 10K, beware. The majority of our USD carries traces of cocaine on it, for various reasons. You have no cocaine in your possession? So what! The money indicates in the recent past you were handling drugs.

Tigre, you are close but not quite there. The cases revolved around a Trooper, then Sheriff - Bob Vogel. He started out as a trooper working the I95 run southbound in Volusia county Florida because the money went south and the drugs went north.

He allegedly did alot of profiling but because it was a new approach and there was not alot of precedent. What would happen is he would stop a car with two occupants for a minor violation (of course there were reports he was spotlighting the cars as they went by) and separate them. Their answers never matched and then he would call in the drug dog who would find the money. The occupants would deny it was theirs, since they denied ownership it would be confiscated. Very few arrests were ever made. The mules were happy to drive off. Obviously they were not upstanding citizens. There are alot of probable cause issues and one that arose was the permission to search was always asked for at the conclusion of the traffic stop and ticket issuance. The occupants would be told something like you are free to go and then the deputy would ASK if it would be okay to check the car for drugs. Most people always agreed not realizing that their detention was over and they were free to leave or refuse further questions or searches.

After many years the court cases started to water down the whole system, especially after he was elected Sheriff and set up teams to follow his progam and there were a few abuses. Eventually the whole thing dried up. But not until the SO's office had received alot of money over the years added to their special operations budgets. Another problem arose when the county council wanted to use some of the money to reduce the Sheriff's budget and he rightfully pointed out that confiscated funds under state law could only be used to enhance operations, they could not be used for normal operational expenses. Lots of new uniforms, cars, 40 cal, autos, boats, overtime, training, etc. Thanks drugs dealers!

Believe me 99.9% of the money confiscated was enroute to Miami for cocaine.

[QUOTE=Thomaso276]Tigre, you are close but not quite there. The cases revolved around a Trooper, then Sheriff - Bob Vogel. He started out as a trooper working the I95 run southbound in Volusia county Florida because the money went south and the drugs went north.

He allegedly did alot of profiling but because it was a new approach and there was not alot of precedent. What would happen is he would stop a car with two occupants for a minor violation (of course there were reports he was spotlighting the cars as they went by) and separate them. Their answers never matched and then he would call in the drug dog who would find the money. The occupants would deny it was theirs, since they denied ownership it would be confiscated. Very few arrests were ever made. The mules were happy to drive off. Obviously they were not upstanding citizens. There are alot of probable cause issues and one that arose was the permission to search was always asked for at the conclusion of the traffic stop and ticket issuance. The occupants would be told something like you are free to go and then the deputy would ASK if it would be okay to check the car for drugs. Most people always agreed not realizing that their detention was over and they were free to leave or refuse further questions or searches.

After many years the court cases started to water down the whole system, especially after he was elected Sheriff and set up teams to follow his progam and there were a few abuses. Eventually the whole thing dried up. But not until the SO's office had received alot of money over the years added to their special operations budgets. Another problem arose when the county council wanted to use some of the money to reduce the Sheriff's budget and he rightfully pointed out that confiscated funds under state law could only be used to enhance operations, they could not be used for normal operational expenses. Lots of new uniforms, cars, 40 cal, autos, boats, overtime, training, etc. Thanks drugs dealers!

Believe me 99.9% of the money confiscated was enroute to Miami for cocaine.[/QUOTE]So speaks a voice of reason and experience. Very few people cart around briefcases full of cash for legitimate reasons. When they do, and are asked about it, they tend to be able to provide immediate, reasonable answers (Wells Fargo deliveries, bank couriers, diamond merchants, government operatives, real estate closings probably constitute a vast majority of the legitimate cases).

Those who say "It's my right to carry around 800 grand in cash, so fuck off!" are technically right - there's nothing illegal about it. But I'm not stupid, and neither are cops. In such a situation, expect people's suspicions to be legitimately raised.

[QUOTE=Sidney]Concerning ''Links''--anyone can search and find support for any loco idea that he may savor. You are the classic practitioner![/QUOTE]Is all I have to say.

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[QUOTE=Sidney]Concerning ''Links''--anyone can search and find support for any loco idea that he may savor. You are the classic practitioner![/QUOTE]Is all I have to say.

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Again, this is pure unsubstantiated innuendo. But knock yourself out.