2004 Reports - Edited

Stormy,

I see you're down there and that you are a connected guy
who know what's "the word on the street" haha

Is this means more flexibility in pricing?

DWC

Wow!!!

Anyone is reading the news! The Merval is collapsing!

Thanks to Alan Greenspan...

He must be a monger too!

DWC

Re: pricing

There may well be flexibility in pricing in new relationships, but as we know, with established relationships, prices must remain the same or increase no matter what. One chica did offer a free session for the fifth time, but now has apparently withdrawn the offer due to pressure from Alan Greenspan.

A few days have elapsed since my week-end in B.A. and it seems the right time to lay down some thoughts and comments.

This is my first “Full Report” so I would really welcome some feedback (even if it’s bad).

Four experiences to recount.

The first was Libia from Argentina Private, I was dreadfully nervous and had high expectations of her; and frankly they were not reached (It is probably not good to start your reporting with a negative but I am going to do so in the name of chronology).

Over the days following the event, I tried to analyse my disappointment before reporting it to the WSG. Nearly a week has elapsed and I haven’t really changed my mind so here goes:

I think this hobby is all about getting a “BUZZ” and all sorts of variables go into reaching a greater or lesser intensity of satisfaction. In this particular case the sensuality, the warmth and the “skills” were not the five star I had expected. Believe me, I desperately wanted them to be and searched and looked for a meeting point between the two different planets we were on, but I think I was on my own there, and it didn’t work, too mechanical. This is not the local gym workout, it is about sex and that means some kind of connection.

I think I am in a minority on this one because most reports of her have been positive, but somehow I also hope this Forum could be about airing differing views. That way, the next guy reading and making some choices will be able to place his bets more accurately based upon what he is looking for. I my case it was the afore-mentioned sensuality, warmth and skills.

My next report will be about a “discovery” which Roxana suggested to me after a chat over some tea. Please bear with me.

Roxana, by the way, is (as is the quaint British expression)the “bees knees” (Queen Bee of course!) and her greatest skill is that she listens and tries to understand what we are looking for. Meeting her felt like starting a new friendship.

Edonist

Exon Reporting: Edonist that was an excellant report. But in my humble opinion you made what I'd call a Newbie mistake in chosing an internet girl for your first quest in Buenos Aires. Yes Ive drooled over the beauty of some internet girls more than once. But I always seam to end up with a Chica Ive had some interaction with first. Santa Fe 1707 is my only exception. Its only human nature but everyone is different as to presonalities. Someone posted a while back, maybe it was Jackson or someone quoting him, "I'll never go with a Chica unless she acts as if she's just won the lottery by attracting my company". This is the best method Ive found. Moreover, the club girls are one thing, but Ive found the independant girls are slightly better. The club scene is structured as you must buy drinks for the Chica's and all their peers are watching your every move and hers. As MoonDog has written the "Latain Chica Network" is every where. So theres more pressure on the Chica in the club. No its the independent and the semi pros Ive found in places like New Port, Cafe Orleans and Excerda that seam to get the majority of my money. Im always constantly searching for the true "GFE" and Ive found them with interaction in the fore mentioned places. ---- Exon

Edonist,

Exon123 is correct, and what works for one person, may not work for another. Internet girls have been fun, but the absolute best, in terms of GFE, both in Argentina and Brazil, have been the ones that you can meet and establish a rapport with. This might be over dinner or coffee at a cafe, or at a club as well, or it might take off over a period of a few days, and it might include girls who post on the internet as well.

Money is usually never discussed in these situations unless she brings it up, and then you either agree or disagree. If she is on the high side, then you make sure that she is all over you in the club or cafe, and that you will get what you expect for her stated amount. The end result be up to you.

Don't let one bad experience turn you away. Come back and enjoy the life.

Moondog

Does it rain a lot now adays in the city?
I am considering going there on May 16.

Exon Reporting: Edonist I have to aggree with MoonDog and he's as good a Monger as you'll find, Im not bad at it either by the way. But to make my point. Next time you plan a trip to Buenos Aires and have been lusting over the internet Chicas. Try this apporch, call one of them on the phone or better yet have Roxana do it for you. She has more creditability than we do with the girls. Have Roxana tell her that you think she's absolutely beautiful and that you'd be flattered if she would allow you to take her to lunch or dinner. Making no mention of sex or money. By the time the meal is over you'll have a damn good idea if she's do able or not. This way you have no commitment and you can walk away from the deal. Its a completely different method than having a complete stranger coming to your hotel room too take off her cloths and fuck you. And one more tip from the top of Mongerdom, and Im sure MoonDog will go along with me on this. Treat thease women like ladies. Act as though you were courting them for marriage. A little kindness and respect will bring you a lot of mileage with thease girls. ----- Exon

Exon said:
[quote]A little kindness and respect will bring you a lot of mileage with thease girls. [/quote]
Exactly. Treat them nice,and you will have a friend for years if you want.

Moondog

Exon123 -

How often have you tried the lunch or dinner first thing? It sounds like a good way to go, but how many chicas would want to charge a stranger for his time and not consider a free dinner at Puerto Madero sufficient enough reason to meet up with him?

I ask this because of an experience I had a few months ago. My friend and I were walking around Puerto Madero early one evening when I decided to call my amiga and ask if she wanted to invite her friend for an early dinner before her friend went off to work for the night. My friend and I obviously thought this was a good deal - my amiga's friend leaves a little earlier in the evening than usual and the four of us have a nice dinner in Puerto Madero before her friend goes to work. Obviously, if my friend likes her, she has her client for the night.

Well, my amiga says her friend would want some money for spending time at the restaurant. We quickly waived off the idea and I hung up. My friend looked at me with a bewildered look and said, "Can't they ever turn the ***** switch off?"

Is this experience normal and to be expected? It was the only time I tried something like this in B.A.

Jak

Surprised that your chica's amiga turned down a free meal at Puerto Madero.

Its a pricey area and the chicas love it.

Often the girls bring up the idea of meeting you the next day for dinner. They will call you at your hotel and ask if you want them to come visit.

Of course you are treating them like GF

It's not like you can always expect predictable or logic behavoir from the working girls in BA (or anywhere else), keep this in mind all the time.
Each girl has his own personality, quirks, troubles and so on. You can try an approach and be rewarded once, then blown countless times. For example, there are girls that are not really interested in seeing clients outside of the boliche, or going places or whatever else. They may have given you the number on the first meeting but more like a perfunctory courtesy than enything else - you find out that too many complications turns up at the time you try to arrange a date outside the boliche.

Some easy explaination can be imagined, like in the case of the boliche girl that asked for money to come to dinner, may be she had a negative experience, having been invited in the past by someone that at the end didn't wanted to spend more time with her. In summary on her side she had to leave home earlier, sat a table with strangers, enjoy no conversation for lack of a common language and then rush to work as everyday. So she asked for some money as a kind of insurance. But, once again, one can never know for sure, may be she was just one of these going for cash all the time so you wisely cut her at the beginning.

For sure treating girls well and be courteous pays back, but not always. I recently exchanged few insults in a boliche with a girl that I never molested in any way (actually I never molest anybody if not a jokeful way). At the same time she was super-sweet to another guy. She simply can't stand me - end of the story. And, with another girl that I'm seeing every in while, I found that being direct and somewhat curt with her helps, as her immature paraguaya personality gets reprimed enough to make her slightly more enjoable to have around.

One note to Edonist while waiting to read the rest of your experiences. A nice way they use to call working girls here, is vendedora (seller) de illusiones. Absolutely, boliche girls are the finest example of this mundane approach to carnal commerce that come from the long-honored tradition of the "cabaret" in BsAs. Sometime, (only sometime...) you are lucky enough to enjoy a night in the company of a sexy girl or young woman that beside screwing you crazy, is nice to be with, partnerlike [add your favorite here]... even 'connected if you want. At that point it will no bother you at all to be paying, likely you will be genereous and everyone will be happy. This is how ideally how things should work. More often you will find that one some of the ingredients above are missing, with "connection" being one of the most missing ones. But, if you repeat enough, when the recipe works out you have unforgettable experiences.

I stop here also not to look as imitating Saint on the subject, but you know no flaco report goes without current info. Zara of escortsbahia.com is a real Black Beauty, better in person than in the pictures. Can be sweet an passionate, dresses nicely, bbbj and anal. Oh boy.

Ciao...

Hi,

BA sounds like a great place to visit with great food and beautiful women everywhere. I prefer to hunt nonpros and regular girls for a good time.

Can girls be picked up on the streets, the ones waiting for the bus, or working as a waitress in a restaurant? Has anybody been successful with regular girls and can they share their techniques for success?

[blue]Yes, you can possibly pickup "regular" girls, but why would you want to?

1. It takes a lot of time and effort.

2. Personality-wise, there's little difference between most "working" girls and so-call "regular" girls because most "working" girls are "regular" girls who happen to have decided for one reason or another that "working" was a lot easier way to make a living.

3. If you were to turn a "regular" girl into a girlfriend, then she would expect you to support her financially anyway.

4. If you think that it would be cheaper because you don't have to pay the "regular" girl, you will discover that "working" girls are cheaper in the long run.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

After the encouragement from my first F.R. I feel ready for the Second Course.

My best experience of the trip (and actually my best since a long time) came about not through recommendation by the Forum but through a private suggestion by Roxana. After she listened to me over Tea on my first morning after arriving, and once she felt she understood my needs, she suggested trying Cafè Orleans.

Now, for those who never been, allow me to set the scene and the surroundings. We are in a historic and majestic old city which could be anywhere in Europe. So I feel I am on familiar turf as I wonder the streets on a relaxing Saturday afternoon doing a bit of shopping.

Around 5 o’clock the urge for a sit-down and drink is felt, so I amble down to this Cafè Orleans, push the door open and walk right into: The Twilight Zone.

Just like in the series, this could be an ordinary (latin society) Cafè but yet something is not quite normal, something is different.

So, feeling a little self-conscious, I sit down, eyes to the floor, and ask for a half of Chandon as my senses adjust to the surroundings. After a few sips and lighting up a cigarette to hide my nerves, my eyes starting darting out here and there and I begin to appreciate the beauty of this place.

At first sight, this could be normal bar on a normal day like a thousand others, but of course, it isn’t because every time your roving eye is attracted to some specimen of the female gender, she look back at you like you’re the greatest, most desirable, most panty-moistening Love God that has walked the Earth. A huge mixture of ego and adrenalin shoots through your body and tingles the hairs on the back of your neck as you peruse the talent across the room, each one with her individual style and approach wanting and wishing you would talk with Her. You feel like a king. This is so very macho, so very "cock amongst the hens", so very "bull in a field of fertile cows". You think to yourself, now then, which of you lovelies will the lucky, chosen one.

Now that is a BUZZ (and I’ve still got my trousers on, in fact I am at least 3 meters from the nearest female). Forget Prozac! in fact forget Cocaine!

It is all done with such naturalness and understated style, this is such an innocent time of the day in the middle of town in an apparently normal bar that all this makes things so thrilling and so exiting. Much, much more so than a Night club at two in the morning when you’re half pissed and your senses are shot to pieces.

No, here you can feel all your nerve endings, and they are tingling and wide awake begging you to look, to smell, to taste, to drink it all in, and of course to go forth and fornicate.


(I have to stop there and return to “Real Life”. Next report I will tell what I actually did!)

Edonist

Ps. I am still finding my feet here, with the reporting style, so if this right or wrong or over the top please give me some directions.

I too have had great luck in treating BsAs trixies to dinner and following it up with some between-the-sheets dessert. Sex was definitely hotter after some food and drink.

I seem to recall the old chesnut:

"Treat the wh0re like a Madonna and the Madonna like a wh0re." Like all old sayings, probably more truth to this than we might want to realize!

-Uncle Otto

Jacksonsaid,
[quote]4. If you think that it would be cheaper because you don't have to pay the "regular" girl, you will discover that "working" girls are cheaper in the long run.[/quote]
Could not agree more. You will always pay a lot more for a non-pro that you ever will a pro.

Moondog

Edonist,

You are doing great. Looking forward to the continuation.

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

Your Dog,
Having a regular for girlfriend will work only if you go to BA
for a few months. If you are there for let's say 2 weeks, there
is not sense in wasting precious time.
I was in BA for 6 months last year and after 2 months I got a
girlfriend. It was great sex every night for not money ( only
a dinner here and there) she was a lawyer so she didn't need
my money.
So it was financially free, but I paid in the sense of what
having a relationship means including having to listen to her
problems, seeing her when perhaps I did not want to, and all
the general aspects of a relationship.
I also could not ask her to do this and that, like you can do
with a pro... you guys know what I mean...
So, think about that, You Dog.
DWC

Jak --- As Ive said, Ive never done an internet girl. Come close a couple times but never scored with one. I much prefer to meet the Chica in person and let nature take its course. But for the benefit of those sitting in sex prison, (as I am) drooling over the beauty of those girls. My approch would be to have Roxana call her up, put the bug in her ear and meet her for anything but sex. Be it lunch, dinner or just for coffee what ever, just meet her first. You both know why your there, but check the chemistry first before you throw away $200 peso's for poor service. Im after the total GFE and you just can't get it by calling a girl up on the phone and saying "Im staying at the Dazzler or Etoile so why don't you come on over and fuck about 2:30 and I'll give $200 peso's". That just won't work for me atleast. ---- Exon

Exon123-

I appreciate the GFE also. I have largely avoided the internet/escort girls in any city I've visited since chemistry is a big part of an experience for me - and I don't want to waste my time and money in this way as I roll the dice.

I was wondering how likely a "lunch date" before deciding could be in B.A. after you mentioned this earlier and after my one experience. Somehow I don't think many of the chicas would be open to the idea - which is why I never really thought of trying the route. A lot of the effort and time of a chica visiting a guy is the getting ready, taking a taxi, etc. and I don't think many of the internet chicas would be open to the effort without some compensation.

It would be interesting to hear from any guys who have tried this approach, but I think a lot of guys who use the internet chicas just hope that they'll show up at the door for the session they've agreed to on the phone.

Exon,

Although, I generally agree with you, but sometimes Internet girls can be fun. There is always a sense of adventure to meet somebody unseen, almost like a blind-date. Most of the time you regret the meetings and the sessions are mechanical. However, a few times you strike gold. During my trips to BA, I met three Internet chicas, who I saw multiple times, including TLN. They became very close friends over time. All of them are university students and work part time. To have a good time with any of these girls, a reasonable command in Spanish is a must.

I was little bit surprised that Edonist didn't enjoy the session with Libia. She speaks excellent english and her service is always above par compared to others. It must have been one of her off days!

Edonist:

Are you, by any chance, an understudy of Jamesbond69? Both of you guys believe in cliffhangers in a sex forum report! (Sorry, James, I had to get it out of the system. We are still waiting for the final chapter of your report on BLACK).

Bandy

"My approch would be to have Roxana call her up, put the bug in her ear and meet her for anything but sex."

Exon uno, dos, tres,
A romanticist at heart....

"Mechanical Sex"

I realize that many of you are coming here to fill a hole in your heart that some US lady made, but I do want to cast my vote in favor of "mechanical" sex.

I personaly, although among the first to extole the wonders of the "GFE", have no problem enjoying watching some woman I have never seen before taking off her clothes so I may use her body for my pleasure. I don't care if she enjoys it or not, any more then I really care if my barber enjoys cutting my hair (as long as he does a good, professional job!)

;)

David

"Sex without love is an empty thing. But of all the empty things in this world, it is the one I enjoy the most!"

Woody Allen

El Capitan,

They don't call him "Woody" for nothin.
Just ask his "daughter"...

(Sorry, it was out there and I couldn't resist.)

Nevertheless, I agree, there's nothing like a good recreational romp!! (I mean rump)

Anyone has the free Internet service in Buenos Aires?
I have a lap top, and need to get connnected from my room.
I will be visiting next week.

Thanks for your help.

Exon Reporting: I lied, I forgot Maria on Argentina Private. If you call that internet. She was excellent by the way, comes highly recomended from Exon's perspective. Hey Mongers I don't fall in love with them. But in the many trips Ive made down their Ive developed some favorites which I always see once or twice druning a visit to B A. While always on patrol for something better and its all good. ---- Exon

Man wrote;

"Anyone has the free Internet service in Buenos Aires?

I have a lap top, and need to get connnected from my room.

I will be visiting next week.

Thanks for your help."

Try Murano in Avenida Carlos Pellegrini, very nice room and chica friendly.

I've got that Monday Morning Blues. "So what to do?" but turn on the WSG.

This is not the most productive of actions considering the pile of overdue work awaiting.

We've all got to earn a Crust or, as that T-shirt in Bangkok spelled out very clearly:

"No money? No Honey!"

I'd like to continue the Cafè Orleans reporting, but please bear with me until I find the peace and quiet to do so.

I am new to the forum and feel that I should contribute. I am not knowlodgeable about all the short hand and hope to just pick it up. Anyway I just returned from an 8 month trip to Central and South America. I did enjoy mongering in Costa Rica and Panama, but I really got spoiled to the art in BA. I began my adventures at the clubs that we all write about; Hooks, Blacks and Playwomen and met some 8s and 9s for 200 AP for a hour. Which is cheap relative to Nevada. But the real joy I had was from the Clarin X newspaper. There were hundreds of ads for women. I had to narrow it down somehow and just selected the ads that listed prices from 30 to 40 pesos per hour. Since I couldn't do fat girls I would ask if they had "flaca Chicas" and "cuantos chicas" The hardest thing if you don't speak Spanish is to talk on the telephone to them and find out the address. I learned to call from a Llamada pay phone store and ask the manager if he or she would please take down this address for me. I found 4 places that were within walking distance of each other. Each apartment that I visited would have usually 3 girls working the day shift and 3 at night. This gave me 6 girls to pick from each place. I usually was not disappointed and if I was, I would then just walk to my next place. I never had to go to more than 2 places. I expected to find these hard pros there but most of the girls were amatures just working a short time to put extra money on the table. Most had regular jobs during the day and some were even married. They were very interested in me as being from the US and I never felt rushed nor in danger. I made some good friends with them, sometimes paying for and extra hour and one even moved in with me for a month.

I also had expiences in Bariloche, Mendoza, Cordoba and Salta. These were all excellent but BA was the best. Now I am back in CA and I am very spoiled and bored. I am planning to go to Thailand at the end of Summer.

Hello Man,

Try in BsAs (only?) the phone number 40041010, username yahoo, password yahoo.

I found it on the yahoo-page of Argentina.

I used this connection from March to April paying only the cheap local phone connection fee from my apartment.

Happy surfing

Bruno

Re: Chek3 report on Clarin

Excellent and useful report. Thank you

Chek3


You had experiences in Bariloche,Mendoza etc ?

Please elaborate.

Stormy,

I respectfully disagree. IMHO, this is an excellent (as an initial foray into WSG) but totally incomplete report. It is a general narration and lacks any specific information that could be repeated/or avoided by fellow mongers.

Chek3, if possible, append the report with the exact addresses of the apartments you visited. If available, include the telephone numbers of the establishments and a short descriptions of the chicas you encountered. Then it will be a valuable report and a great addition to the WSG archive.

Bandy

I agree that I didn't keep good notes because at the time I was not sharing on a forum. However I do remember my favorite apt. in BA and that was at 301 Talcahuano. Just go up the stairs and ring the bell it is the only apt there. The girls there were all between the ages of 20-30 and usually I had 3 to pick from unless they were busy. I always found a nice thin (flaca) one to choose. The price was 30 AP per hour.

Regarding Bariloche, there is an ugly hotel called the Bariloche Center. Talk to the man at the front desk and ask if any girls are looking for business. Since they get a kickback he wll be happy to find you something. There were a few ads in the local paper but not much. They have the wiskeyrias but the bar tab for the chicas is expensive and not necessary if you find them elsewhere.

Mendosa for some reason is full of ads for chicas but I found that it was a little more expensive than BA. 551 Montevideo has about 8 chicas from a 5 to 7. A little more professional that I don't care for but still nice at 80AP per hour. I hope this was a little more helpful.

Chek3,

Thanks for the useful additional information.

Bandy

Chek3,

Thanks for your report. Can you post some details on those other places in Argentina you visited and found action? Like Bariloche, Mendoza, and Cordoba?? I still want to do some exploring in and around Buenos Aires. I need to do that. Thanks in advance.

Hello,

Long time reader of the boards and wanted to let you all know of a place in Caballito address 122 Dolas apt PB2. There were 3 girls and was 80 for an hour. Went 2 times for the hour and the chicas were not bad. I don't remember the number but the address is correct the open at like 10am.

The Juggler - Part I

Looking back on my recent BsAs trip, all I sense is one big blur of events. Taxis, chicas, dancing, dinners, chicas, scheduling, chicas, smiles, puxxy, phone messages, chicas, conflict management, chicas, establishing relations, shopping for gifts, reconnecting. Oh, and I met a few chicas too, forgot to mention. It feels like a year’s worth of romantic exploits pressed into the short time frame of just 4 days.

I arrived Sunday morning and fully expected to be met by a cute little brunette from Area-vip I had developed a relationship with from prior trips and numerous communications since.

I spoke to her from the airport before departing, and all was very well. She was geared up to come to my hotel and move in for the duration of my stay, be my main squeeze. Dinners, dancing, movies, romance was all lined up, all guaranteed. Maybe even a quickie here and there, who knows what might have happened behind closed doors.
But alas, I have learned the hard way never to put all my eggs in one basket, so had already organized a laundry list of alternatives, all to be called up for draft duty as circumstances dictate.

Don’t get me wrong, the idea is not to play around. I would never consider that idea. I just don’t like to sleep alone, it’s a psychological defect that flares up when I go to South America. Nights can get cold there too.

By the way, I bring my own grape juice on these flights, should anyone out there share this habit. Going down I had a bottle of Merryvale Reserve ’98. Now as I am writing from the homebound leg, I am dipping into a ’99 Luigi Bosca Cabernet. And the new Diego Torres CD is cranking on my headphones (Noiseguard technology works really well), and the recent days’ events slowly emerge from the haze. Ya gotta love the life in Bs As. There is nothing like it on earth.

There are other places, but each has their unique charms and attractions. Few can match BA for completeness, however. And there are chicas there too, I might add.

I just left my latest honey and her sweet laugh and a last minute quickie before catching my plane! Then in the airport, I spent a half an hour helping her with her English class homework while she was on her aerobics bike in nothing but the black tanga undies I had bought her, panting and giggling on the cell phone. What a vision. This place is like a drug, newbies beware.

I checked into the hotel near Plaza San Martin, a nice strategic location between Recoleta, Puerto Madero and the downtown shops. Nice and quiet, friendly staff, and king size beds with firm mattresses. The soft ones are crap. They absorb the thrust and makes it tricky to really drill a chica well. My aim is never to suspend unsolicited advice in these forums, but I would consider hotels with overly soft beds a liability as chicas take their sex and lovers quite seriously. I hear a lot of comments and have had a few experiences myself, and I am under the impression that most chicas want their lovers to be sweet, romantic and attentive, then drill the living crap out of them en la cama once a certain rapport has been established. And soft beds don’t cut it, better to get creative with other furniture or room fixtures and put the fillies through the paces. Hey, this is Latin America, different rules apply.

Now I call my morocha sweetie whom I had previously spent such wonderful nights with, dancing at Asia de Cuba and other haunts, kissing, power hugging, making love till dawn, … and she just disappeared! Was MIA for the next 3 days. I called and left message after message. Called her younger sister who’s on Area-vip as well, all to no avail. I was worried she’d been run over by a train or a herd of escaped elephants from the circus, something freaky. It just seemed so utterly unlike this little beauty. She is so intelligent, caring, respectful, studious, with plans in her life. We had such a close connection, I thought… But that is what contingency planning is all about. Anticipate the unexpected, and be ready to deal with it before it happens.

So I enacted Plan B while awaiting news.

End of Part I

Sorry for the long wind-up. Color commentary will ultimately follow.

Chek3 is not a monger of many words, maybe we'll hear more from him later. For now, 8 months trip in S.A and two reports isn't much. However, the correct address for the cheap brothel is Talcahuano 308 "C".

Prazer,

Ok, no more soft mattresses. Hard ones needed for drilling. :)

Glad you had plan B, anxious for the next installment.

Moondog