Cafe Orleans

[QUOTE=SunSeeker;427629]Only if paying "stupid gringo" prices. I moved here from Rio in June because the p4p is less expensive here in BA. Many chicas available in the 300-400 peso range. Even for someone like me who mangles the spanish language LOL.[/QUOTE]I've presently been making a regular of someone who is very well reviewed in her own thread on this board (Evian) who's charging 350 for a very generous hour that has always stretched to much longer with me, and I think she's spectacular, beautiful, natural, in her twenties and her English skills are reasonable, and there's a connection between us that one can't get without having a common language. In actual fact, she is the mythical unicorn in real life. And she's charging less than $60 US. Outside of Asia, I simply can't come close to this quality at this price. And actually, I can't get this quality in Asia either - although I can come fairly close for half the price.

[QUOTE=Member #2041;427631]I've presently been making a regular of someone who is very well reviewed in her own thread on this board (Evian) who's charging 350 for a very generous hour that has always stretched to much longer with me, and I think she's spectacular, beautiful, natural, in her twenties and her English skills are reasonable, and there's a connection between us that one can't get without having a common language. In actual fact, she is the mythical unicorn in real life. And she's charging less than $60 US. Outside of Asia, I simply can't come close to this quality at this price. And actually, I can't get this quality in Asia either - although I can come fairly close for half the price.[/QUOTE]100% agree with you re Evian. Definitely no "stupid gringo" from her. I just need to find time to see her again grin.

[QUOTE=SunSeeker;427634]100% agree with you re Evian. Definitely no "stupid gringo" from her. I just need to find time to see her again grin.[/QUOTE]How does one contact this Unicorn?

You can send it Pvt if you like.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Captrick; 427636]How does one contact this Unicorn?

You can send it Pvt if you like.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hey captrick, welcome to the AP board. You can read some on her thread here,

[url]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?7239-Evian-new-sweetly-girl-only-for-you[/url]

And she has a site with some pics and contact info,

[url]http://evian-new.webnode.com.ar/[/url]

October 2013 update.

Nothing has changed, someday it is 2-4 doable girls, if daytime is your thing I would have a look. Better deal than a privado in my opinion. A few of the hot girl don't come in before 4-5 in the evening.

Stranger.

[QUOTE=Stranger;436083]October 2013 update.

Nothing has changed, someday it is 2-4 doable girls, if daytime is your thing I would have a look. Better deal than a privado in my opinion. A few of the hot girl don't come in before 4-5 in the evening.

Stranger.[/QUOTE]Stranger, thanks for your recent updates on the various establishments in BA!

Making a visit soon, and I appreciate the intel.

Gracias!

Spent several hours at Orleans yesterday between 1 PM and 7 PM. Nothing doable. There were a few women however all fat and oldish. Last year I met two wonderful hot women from Mendoza.

Only the waiters were in the place.

8 to 10 girls in the place. 2 guys. Of the 10 2 were young and attractive. Started at 1500 or 1000. In the end she, the younger one, offered a hh for 800 and said that was the minimum for girls here. Talked with an older attractive one who said 1000 than agreed on 500 for hh, and she said 150 for the hotel. Not worth it with apartments close and open.

[QUOTE=NewOrleans;437823]8 to 10 girls in the place. 2 guys. Of the 10 2 were young and attractive. Started at 1500 or 1000. In the end she, the younger one, offered a hh for 800 and said that was the minimum for girls here. Talked with an older attractive one who said 1000 than agreed on 500 for hh, and she said 150 for the hotel. Not worth it with apartments close and open.[/QUOTE]Does HH mean a Half Hour or Half Fuck?

Or Heil Hitler? 88 anybody?

WTF!

1000 for an hour with a fucked-out Dominican plus the Telo and whatever she has consumed before you met her!

Get Real!

I'd rather rub one out and have a much better time!

Thanks for the news!

TL.

[QUOTE=NewOrleans;437823]8 to 10 girls in the place. 2 guys. Of the 10 2 were young and attractive. Started at 1500 or 1000. In the end she, the younger one, offered a hh for 800 and said that was the minimum for girls here. Talked with an older attractive one who said 1000 than agreed on 500 for hh, and she said 150 for the hotel. Not worth it with apartments close and open.[/QUOTE]Does HH mean a Half Hour or Half Fuck?

Or Heil Hitler? 88 anybody?

WTF!

1000 for an hour with a fucked-out Dominican plus the Telo and whatever she has consumed before you met her!

Get Real!

I'd rather rub one out and have a much better time!

TL Knows Best!

Thanks for the news!

TL.

February 2014.

I arrived at 4:00 PM There is an open parking right across the street. No problem to park the car. The place appears like a normal Café, but already from outside I saw that there are some girls sitting alone.

6 girls inside. 2 of them in the 20 ies the rest 30-40. The best ones were a slim blonde one and a darker one. Three of them doable.

All of them were just smiling at me and I ordered a coffee (32 ARS). As I'm new in this I preferred the darker one as she seemed more experienced. After a few minutes I gave her a signal and she came over to my table. She told me that she can take good care for me, with many kisses and everything.

That there is a hotel right around the corner what costs 180 peso. And for her 100 USD. I told her that's not the range I'm looking for. She kept nice and finally we agreed in 600 Pesos.

She really did it nice BBBJ and kisses all over my body. She sat on top of me and gave me a really good ride, changing the position several times and giving me her little pussy to lick it. Maybe she really had an orgasm, if not good actress.

Slim, nice tushy, wet pussy. Just the tits are a little loose and the tommy could be tighter.

But very good attitude.

ZZtop.

[QUOTE=ZZTop;438003]February 2014.

I arrived at 4:00 PM There is an open parking right across the street. No problem to park the car. The place appears like a normal Café, but already from outside I saw that there are some girls sitting alone.

6 girls inside. 2 of them in the 20 ies the rest 30-40. The best ones were a slim blonde one and a darker one. Three of them doable.

All of them were just smiling at me and I ordered a coffee (32 ARS). As I'm new in this I preferred the darker one as she seemed more experienced. After a few minutes I gave her a signal and she came over to my table. She told me that she can take good care for me, with many kisses and everything.

That there is a hotel right around the corner what costs 180 peso. And for her 100 USD. I told her that's not the range I'm looking for. She kept nice and finally we agreed in 600 Pesos.

She really did it nice BBBJ and kisses all over my body. She sat on top of me and gave me a really good ride, changing the position several times and giving me her little pussy to lick it. Maybe she really had an orgasm, if not good actress.

Slim, nice tushy, wet pussy. Just the tits are a little loose and the tommy could be tighter.

But very good attitude.

ZZtop.[/QUOTE]The only time I was there it was full of not too good looking women. I liked the fact that it was on a busy main street and the place is a legit place so you can have a coffee or a drink, even eat if you want to. They did have some of the best home made potato chips I ever did have. A couple of black women there who looked like they have seen better days. The second time there I just peeked in the window and kept on walking.

I met Meliza on Sunday and she was very sweet and had long blonde hair. She was sitting by the stairway to the bathrooms. She seemed more passive than the usual chicas here. AI spoke with her a while and then got her number and left. I thought about her long hair and on Tuesday morning I asked her to come to my apartment.

She is very petite, with A cups and a slender body. She has a 2 year old but her body is tight.

This is where it goes down hill.

She started with a CBJ which is a waste of time for me. She started to get annoyed with me because I was lasting too long for her schedule.

I told her the clock starts when she gets to my house, not in the taxi. She then proceeds to stop me completely telling me I am not concentrating.

So, being fair, I paid her what she asked and then told her to get out and thanks for ruining my afternoon.

I don't usually pick up from here but have great memories of this place so I always stop by and get a pricey beer and check out the scenery.

If you like drama go up with Meliza. If you want good sex look elsewhere.

You're completely right: we're spoiling the market paying that kind of amounts!

[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;437826]Does HH mean a Half Hour or Half Fuck?

Or Heil Hitler? 88 anybody?

WTF!

1000 for an hour with a fucked-out Dominican plus the Telo and whatever she has consumed before you met her!

Get Real!

I'd rather rub one out and have a much better time!

TL Knows Best!

Thanks for the news!

TL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cadavez;438279]You're completely right: we're spoiling the market paying that kind of amounts![/QUOTE]Its true that costs have gone up and that the girls need to charge more. But most of them are not that attractive and don't give very good service, if they even show up! I personally can understand a girl charging what the average Argie earns a day. So for a turn of 1 to 2 hours they can earn a full days wages here of 300 to 400 pesos. Maybe more if the girl is really exceptional (there are VERY FEW of those around) a little more. But then there comes the average tourist, its 3 am, they are half blind because they are drunk and tired. They pick up some dog and pay her more then they would a decent girl back home. Even worse they go to some over priced tourist trap and end up paying 1500 to 2000 pesos for the "package" , drinks, entrance fee, hotel etc. Whats worse is then they come on this site and brag about it! When some one asks me for one of my "friends " numbers now a days I just politely decline. Why ruin a good thing?

[QUOTE=Gerente;438213]So, being fair, I paid her what she asked and then told her to get out and thanks for ruining my afternoon.[/QUOTE]I'm not trying to flame you brother I'd just like to give you something to think about. Down here "fair" means they fuck you well and you pay them. I read a lot of stories from guys, well maybe not a lot, but enough, that end with "She was terrible, I didn't get off, so I paid her to leave." Why? If they don't deliver the service (just showing up and spending time isn't enough) why pay them anything. 3 P for bus fare (yes it's intended to be an insult) maybe, but the whole fee, not from me. If they are honestly trying hard, and my head isn't there, that's a different story but for shitty service? Nope.

This is what happens when they get back to the Café.

Juanita: how did it go?

Julietta: Those Yankees are crazy, if you complain a lot, they give you the money so you go away.

I promise, promise, promise you, no Argentino would give them a peso for shitty service. It's one of the reasons why, like a lot of the guys that live here, I don't share many of my actives.

Just something to think about.

The answer as to why travelers rather than residents are ready just to pay full price for bad experiences is fear of damaging our reputations. Many of us have careers wives and girlfriends waiting in our home countries. Single guys are already at some disadvantage in large organizations. Often there is an attitude in large organizations that single guys do not need the money as the married guys try to put their children through a private university. Single white males probably should be added as an impacted class in EEO to avoid discrimination. I rather pay $50 or $100 (thinking in US dollars again as the peanut gallery shutters) to get rid of a bad experience than to have something escalate where the consequences are unknown. Think about the Secret Service guys in Cartagena.

I think that is why the nightclubs serve their purpose. The pay is good enough for these chicas that they are not going to try to run a one night hustle and risk losing their jobs. They rather bang 10 to 20 guys a month than work in a volume privado where they might have to bang 20 to 40 guys to make the same money. Added to the fact that I suspect most guys at the clubs are probably on expense accounts. I think this is true for even for the Argentinos based on reading the Foros. They are either in town for business or it is a special night for them.

I recently posted on pricing in the clubs. I was not trying to brag but was trying to give information. I stopped going to clubs for a few trips but returned realizing that the clubs are entertaining. I hear thelocals complaint that because of pricing it is not worth their while to go out and occasionally they would like some "late night pussy." But honestly I do not believe there are enough guys on this board going out to set market pricing.

I really do not think the locals should give up their prime chicas. One too many times chicas have made it to this board and prices have spiraled quickly. If guys are in town for a short time the clubs and Esmeralda VIP work. If you have 2 or 3 weeks then usually by the second week you will have found a chica you are interested in repeating with. At least, that has been my history.

I do admit that if I find a chica I like I do tend to overpay them. Usually it comes in the form of longer sessions (2 hours vs 1 hour). Last trip I gave the chica a nice gift which she needed and effectively added 500 P per 2 hour session.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;438299]The answer as to why travelers rather than residents are ready just to pay full price for bad experiences is fear of damaging our reputations. Many of us have careers wives and girlfriends waiting in our home countries. Single guys are already at some disadvantage in large organizations. Often there is an attitude in large organizations that single guys do not need the money as the married guys try to put their children through a private university. Single white males probably should be added as an impacted class in EEO to avoid discrimination. I rather pay $50 or $100 (thinking in US dollars again as the peanut gallery shutters) to get rid of a bad experience than to have something escalate where the consequences are unknown. Think about the Secret Service guys in Cartagena.

I think that is why the nightclubs serve their purpose. The pay is good enough for these chicas that they are not going to try to run a one night hustle and risk losing their jobs. They rather bang 10 to 20 guys a month than work in a volume privado where they might have to bang 20 to 40 guys to make the same money. Added to the fact that I suspect most guys at the clubs are probably on expense accounts. I think this is true for even for the Argentinos based on reading the Foros. They are either in town for business or it is a special night for them.

I recently posted on pricing in the clubs. I was not trying to brag but was trying to give information. I stopped going to clubs for a few trips but returned realizing that the clubs are entertaining. I hear thelocals complaint that because of pricing it is not worth their while to go out and occasionally they would like some "late night pussy." But honestly I do not believe there are enough guys on this board going out to set market pricing.

I really do not think the locals should give up their prime chicas. One too many times chicas have made it to this board and prices have spiraled quickly. If guys are in town for a short time the clubs and Esmeralda VIP work. If you have 2 or 3 weeks then usually by the second week you will have found a chica you are interested in repeating with. At least, that has been my history.

I do admit that if I find a chica I like I do tend to overpay them. Usually it comes in the form of longer sessions (2 hours vs 1 hour). Last trip I gave the chica a nice gift which she needed and effectively added 500 P per 2 hour session.[/QUOTE]I understand and can agree in general to what you say. I think my point is that there are good, if not better girls available for much less if people don't screw it up. The truth is, if you want to spend 2 to 3 k pesos for a so so girl, well that's your privilege. Plus as you say, there are not enough guys on this board to set pricing. But if we can pass around the good information, and of course the bad to help each other we all win. Maybe there is some way to limit what the ladies who do post can read? That might help. Also, in the past some members ran a few girls into the ground over some personal slight. These ladies left this forum and other members lost out. Its not easy keeping every one happy. Please, every one enjoy! And above all be safe!

I think that the traveler, especially the business or married traveler, does not want to "make waves" in a foreign country so he just pays the girl, regardless of what type of service he receives. Sometimes he deliberately over pays, thinking that over paying will guarantee that the girl goes away. That is unfortunate, but it is a reality that we have to live with. I also think that there are girls out there who give shitty service to a foreigner in hopes that he will cut the session short, and still give them all of the money. I am sure that some readers think that I am giving a chica credit for too much intelligence. Se la vie!

Tres3.

I can see that they are afraid of repercussions. I also 100% buy the idea for the short time guy valuing time over money, I would as well. I will continue to reject the idea that the behavior of the few can move a price. Not for the whole market obviously, but for the numbers expected from tourists, absolutely.

Didn't mean to rant nor criticize. I was being honest when I said I didn't understand. Given BBM's response, I can see it now.

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;438304]I can see that they are afraid of repercussions. I also 100% buy the idea for the short time guy valuing time over money, I would as well. I will continue to reject the idea that the behavior of the few can move a price. Not for the whole market obviously, but for the numbers expected from tourists, absolutely.

Didn't mean to rant nor criticize. I was being honest when I said I didn't understand. Given BBM's response, I can see it now.[/QUOTE]This happened to me once in Centro and 10 or 15 minutes in to the session, I knew things were going south so I got up and put my clothes on and went to the mamasan and demanded my money back. She got me another girl that was great and admonished the one that I complained about. She was looking for repeat customers. BTW, this was in a privado. Went there two or three times but can't remember the exact address. One time went across the hall to an apartment with a sleeping dog and dirty dishes in the sink. A totally living in apt.

Jim.

[QUOTE=Jkeys;438305]This happened to me once in Centro and 10 or 15 minutes in to the session, I knew things were going south so I got up and put my clothes on and went to the mamasan and demanded my money back. She got me another girl that was great and admonished the one that I complained about. She was looking for repeat customers. BTW, this was in a privado. Went there two or three times but can't remember the exact address. One time went across the hall to an apartment with a sleeping dog and dirty dishes in the sink. A totally living in apt.

Jim.[/QUOTE]Just for the record, I did not pay this chica everything we had agreed to before she showed up. I gave her a partial payment based on the fact that she was there 75% of the time and then did not give her taxi fare either way which I had told her I would pay. She did not argue at all Gerente.

[QUOTE=Tres3;438303]I think that the traveler, especially the business or married traveler, does not want to "make waves" in a foreign country so he just pays the girl, regardless of what type of service he receives. Sometimes he deliberately over pays, thinking that over paying will guarantee that the girl goes away. That is unfortunate, but it is a reality that we have to live with. I also think that there are girls out there who give shitty service to a foreigner in hopes that he will cut the session short, and still give them all of the money. I am sure that some readers think that I am giving a chica credit for too much intelligence. Se la vie!

Tres3.[/QUOTE]Too bad that dumb ass at the Secret Service didn't realize that.

Sometimes, you just have to make the situation go away and chalk it up to experience.

This is the same thing with the Chica-fees at some hotels. The first time I saw one on my bill was at the Emperador on Libertador. I was traveling on business and was going to need to submit the receipt. Of course, it was only itemized on the version that I had to 'approve' and the final version made no direct mention of the charge. I wasn't happy about paying it but, I was relieved enough that it wasn't itemized on the bill so, I moved on.

My only "bad" experience mongering in Bs As was years ago when (like a fool) I tried to order the beautiful chica from the internet pictures (with no confirming info from here or the local foro). I got a bait 'and switch. I figured I might as well make the best of it (she wasn't horribly disfigured or anything) but, I got the strong impression that she didn't want to be there and was perhaps pressured to be there. So, I paid her and sent her away without taking care of my needs.

Welcome back.

Often an honorable retreat makes better sense than winning the battle at whatever the cost. I've often shrugged my shoulders and paid when I knew I could take my grievance higher up. I write it off as education. Which doesn't mean I don't get my revenge later on.

The last time I was here I didn't bother to go in as the view from outside the window was not too inviting. This time I had to stop in as I really wanted a beer. I like the place itself and the beer was good. The talent was really a joke, as the girls looked like leftovers from the weekend. Most are older and have seen better days. There was one nice looking chic but when she got up to walk around she fell into the same category because of that huge rear end. I don't know what price they're asking, but after just finishing at a privado for 400 ar for a 20 year old I don't care to know. I wonder how the food is?

[QUOTE=Boston;439434]The last time I was here I didn't bother to go in as the view from outside the window was not too inviting. This time I had to stop in as I really wanted a beer. I like the place itself and the beer was good. The talent was really a joke, as the girls looked like leftovers from the weekend. Most are older and have seen better days. There was one nice looking chic but when she got up to walk around she fell into the same category because of that huge rear end. I don't know what price they're asking, but after just finishing at a privado for 400 ar for a 20 year old I don't care to know. I wonder how the food is?[/QUOTE]And really overpriced. Just like the coffee and most of the chicks. It's a theme restaurant. "Pay too much, get too little." It's sort of embarrassing how bad it has gotten there.

Spent some time in Orleans this trip, a decent place to go to kill time during the afternoon and get out of my hotel room. Yes, 50 pesos for a soft drink is high. Most of the women are not worth taking out, except Flor, who I talked about in recent post. The price is 800 for an hour. I talked to three Arggie men who made deals while I was there I asked how much they paid, all said 800. The other day a good looking girl I had never seen before approached me and started with quote of 2000, with in 20 seconds came down to 1000. I was not in the mood, so I did not bother talking with her.

On Friday was looking for some quick action, all the local apartments were closed due to holiday (God Argentina has a lot of holidays) went into Orleans. Only one girl interested me (Florencia, not to be confused with Flor). Mid 20's, light skin tall long brown hair. Girl next door type of look. Is not aggressive in trying to make eye contact (like a lot of the others) you almost have to approach her. Anyways, made contact, she started at 1200, came down to 800. Good BBBJ, decent sex, nice personality, not a lot of English. Would do again, but would like more time with her, I like 2-3 hour sessions.

Side note, she said she averages 1 or 2 men a day. Some girls average 3 men a week, and they are there from open to close five days a week. They have to pay Orleans 200 a day if they take a man out.

Oh well, I am too sore to work out, so I guess I will head to orleans probably right after the game.

I might as well get my ass kicked here as well, and make a hat trick out of it. What the f do I have to lose?

You know, it amazes me. I come to this city in fairly good shape, in a fairly good mood, fairly well groomed, with plenty of time to be something more than just here today and gone tomorrow, and with plenty in pocket to make the most of the time.

I also come to the city being able to work from home on my own schedule as I please with no deadlines or anything. You would think that would count for something. But not in this town, no sir. All BA can muster up is 3 lousy 1 hour sessions in privado across 3 weeks. Metaphorically speaking it's a gnat's fart.

Oh well, on the bright side of things 1) at least this isn't LA, 2) this is a GREAT place to buy shoes! 3) most of my party budget is still in my pocket 4) I have been able to eat out and have fantastic food at least once every day since I was here. 5) I am getting great workouts in and I and am now down to 160!

Wish me luck, and I will post a report when I do.

Have you been using my Lists and Maps?

And reading about the best places to go?

[QUOTE=Shawman;440117]Oh well, I am too sore to work out, so I guess I will head to orleans probably right after the game.

I might as well get my ass kicked here as well, and make a hat trick out of it. What the f do I have to lose?

You know, it amazes me. I come to this city in fairly good shape, in a fairly good mood, fairly well groomed, with plenty of time to be something more than just here today and gone tomorrow, and with plenty in pocket to make the most of the time.

I also come to the city being able to work from home on my own schedule as I please with no deadlines or anything. You would think that would count for something. But not in this town, no sir. All BA can muster up is 3 lousy 1 hour sessions in privado across 3 weeks. Metaphorically speaking it's a gnat's fart.

Oh well, on the bright side of things 1) at least this isn't LA, 2) this is a GREAT place to buy shoes! 3) most of my party budget is still in my pocket 4) I have been able to eat out and have fantastic food at least once every day since I was here. 5) I am getting great workouts in and I and am now down to 160!

Wish me luck, and I will post a report when I do.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;440118]Have you been using my Lists and Maps?

And reading about the best places to go?[/QUOTE]This forum has been my only resource since I got here. I have been using it exclusively. It is the only way I even know how to go about this stuff in this country. You can tell by my posts from the first day I got here. And you can see just how active I have been. Of the other Argentina forums on the web, this is the only one left that has any recent activity whatsoever.

Anywhoo, I just got back from Orleans. I think things are definitely smoother as long as it is not too close to sundown. And things are definitely more palatable before kirchner's kidz wake up, and get out and about, to cause grief.

Nothing to write home about because all I got out of orleans, was the lunch special. And after being here for 3 weeks, I am fairly certain that is the only thing this town actually has to offer. This is critical advice to anyone who is thinking about travelling to BA. But to be fair, it will be a good lunch.

So I get there and walk in. There are girls there, and much to my surprise, 2 of them strike my fancy. I go ahead and get assertive. I go over and sit at the table next to each of them, I engage them with a smile, and I sit down to order food and coffee. They know what's up. One of them was clearly waiting for someone because she was on her cell phone and her head was constantly darting around. The second one was not engaging me, so I engaged her. I turned on the ole charm, eventually had her laughing, and warm to me. I think she was tired or just not on the clock. I was there a while, I gave her every opportunity to escalate, and made it abundantly clear that I am out for a good time, I am down for anything, and have no schedule to keep.

But all to no avail. Like I said, I am fairly certain that it wasn't anything personal. In whatever way, and for whatever reason, she was simply not on the clock. As it was about 5 pm, I grabbed a cab out of there, rather than chance being stuck on that side of town at sunset, or worse yet, after kirchner's kidz crawled up from out of the sewer, to start their good day.

[QUOTE=Shawman;440123]This forum has been my only resource since I got here. I have been using it exclusively. It is the only way I even know how to go about this stuff in this country. You can tell by my posts from the first day I got here. And you can see just how active I have been. Of the other Argentina forums on the web, this is the only one left that has any recent activity whatsoever.

Anywhoo, I just got back from Orleans. I think things are definitely smoother as long as it is not too close to sundown. And things are definitely more palatable before kirchner's kidz wake up, and get out and about, to cause grief.

Nothing to write home about because all I got out of orleans, was the lunch special. And after being here for 3 weeks, I am fairly certain that is the only thing this town actually has to offer. This is critical advice to anyone who is thinking about travelling to BA. But to be fair, it will be a good lunch.

So I get there and walk in. There are girls there, and much to my surprise, 2 of them strike my fancy. I go ahead and get assertive. I go over and sit at the table next to each of them, I engage them with a smile, and I sit down to order food and coffee. They know what's up. One of them was clearly waiting for someone because she was on her cell phone and her head was constantly darting around. The second one was not engaging me, so I engaged her. I turned on the ole charm, eventually had her laughing, and warm to me. I think she was tired or just not on the clock. I was there a while, I gave her every opportunity to escalate, and made it abundantly clear that I am out for a good time, I am down for anything, and have no schedule to keep.

But all to no avail. Like I said, I am fairly certain that it wasn't anything personal. In whatever way, and for whatever reason, she was simply not on the clock. As it was about 5 pm, I grabbed a cab out of there, rather than chance being stuck on that side of town at sunset, or worse yet, after kirchner's kidz crawled up from out of the sewer, to start their good day.[/QUOTE]The old town is just not the same anymore. Best to go to Columbia or Costa Rica.

Have been here for a week with SO and finally had some time to myself to hook up. Met Jenifer from Giselle's list the other night and she was a nice time. HOWEVER, I am just not a fan of this town for mongering. Maybe I am spoiled because my last two international trips have been to Berlin and Kiev. In Ukraine you see a 7 or 8 every couple steps walking on Krestchatik. Here there are just not many attractive women. Maybe you see a 7 out of about 40 young women who cross your path on the street. Of all my travels I have probably not seen so many unattractive females. I did meet some locals and go to Bizarren Musik Parti last Saturday ([URL]https://www.facebook.com/bizarren[/URL]). I would recommend this party to anyone that is looking for freebies and has any game There were thousands of females there every shape and form and it seemed like one of the biggest meat markets I have seen in awhile. If you like dancing and partying this is a good option. I wonder why all the hot females I have seen are at this party. They have it about twice a month. I got very sick with flu on my trip to BA. That halted my mongering activities. I think I will just save the $700 I had saved for ladies and use that for a trip next month to Koln for the FKKs. Not only is it a real task to meet the ladies here, but it does not seem to pay off like other top mongering destinations I have been to. When I am paying good money I want to be able to have 8's and 9's not have to settle for 6's and 7's. Sorry for the rant but BA is not what I expected I thought there were beautiful women everywhere here.

[QUOTE=Shawman;440123]This forum has been my only resource since I got here. I have been using it exclusively. It is the only way I even know how to go about this stuff in this country. You can tell by my posts from the first day I got here. And you can see just how active I have been. Of the other Argentina forums on the web, this is the only one left that has any recent activity whatsoever.

Anywhoo, I just got back from Orleans. I think things are definitely smoother as long as it is not too close to sundown. And things are definitely more palatable before kirchner's kidz wake up, and get out and about, to cause grief.

Nothing to write home about because all I got out of orleans, was the lunch special. And after being here for 3 weeks, I am fairly certain that is the only thing this town actually has to offer. This is critical advice to anyone who is thinking about travelling to BA. But to be fair, it will be a good lunch.

So I get there and walk in. There are girls there, and much to my surprise, 2 of them strike my fancy. I go ahead and get assertive. I go over and sit at the table next to each of them, I engage them with a smile, and I sit down to order food and coffee. They know what's up. One of them was clearly waiting for someone because she was on her cell phone and her head was constantly darting around. The second one was not engaging me, so I engaged her. I turned on the ole charm, eventually had her laughing, and warm to me. I think she was tired or just not on the clock. I was there a while, I gave her every opportunity to escalate, and made it abundantly clear that I am out for a good time, I am down for anything, and have no schedule to keep.

But all to no avail. Like I said, I am fairly certain that it wasn't anything personal. In whatever way, and for whatever reason, she was simply not on the clock. As it was about 5 pm, I grabbed a cab out of there, rather than chance being stuck on that side of town at sunset, or worse yet, after kirchner's kidz crawled up from out of the sewer, to start their good day.[/QUOTE]There is nothing wrong with downtown BA, the Micro Centro. Day or night as long as you know where you are and where to go you will be just fine.

Especially the places that all of us go to, Hook, Cattos and Ness. Perfectly safe! Don't act like a tourist and pay a street urchin a bribe out of fear. Don't feed the animals!

Excedera is absolutely safe.

Orleans is full of ugly old Pros and a Cocasional sperm bank.

I can assure you that San Telmo is a lot more dangerous than Micro Centro!

Especially after sundown!

If you use unknown escorts or Privados then you pay your money and you take your chances.

There is a wealth of info on this site that if people will spend the necessary time that it takes to ensure that they will have a great time then it will happen.

Use recommended Chicas.

Go to recommended bars.

Avoid the Chicas and bars that are on the No Fuck List.

Use your resources that are on this list!

Pm one of us that lives here.

BA is or can be very nice.

The Street Urchins are everywhere in the world.

You could have had a Dell Dude!

TL.

Send me a PM if you would like a few contacts with a money back guarantee.

Can anyone comment on the action at Cafe Orleans on a Sunday afternoon. ?

Or suggest a private apartment that is open on Sundays.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=MikeT;441400]Can anyone comment on the action at Cafe Orleans on a Sunday afternoon. ?

Or suggest a private apartment that is open on Sundays.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Sundays can be tough, try Esmeralda 847, piso 12 H, at Paraguay (Brisa Masajes). At the buzzer say "chicas" and head in to the elevator at the back. If you want more than massage and happy ending, I think FS is common here, but to be sure let the lady in charge know you want "servicio conventional" (AKA FS) and request a VIP room.

[QUOTE=MikeT;441400]Can anyone comment on the action at Cafe Orleans on a Sunday afternoon. ?

Or suggest a private apartment that is open on Sundays.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I was there 2days before. There was two Girls. One leave with a guy there another Girl came to me and she will have 2400 peso, I say i give You 600 Peso. Seh say: no that imposible. So I go without a Girl.

[QUOTE=Dominus22;442727]I was there 2days before. There was two Girls. One leave with a guy there another Girl came to me and she will have 2400 peso, I say i give You 600 Peso. Seh say: no that imposible. So I go without a Girl.[/QUOTE]Sunday evening certainly isn't the best time for mongering in BA, but anyway 2400 pesos is a ridiculous amount to pay to any girl at Orleans. I don't think that those chicas would come down to 600, but for the same 600 pesos you can find hundreds of much better performing hookers within 10 minutes walk from that cafe, provided that it's a weekday afternoon.

For me, Orleans is a place just to have beer and watch people come and go. Not a pick up point. Enjoy BA.

Went in to Orleans today about 14:30 to have a drink and see what was going on this afternoon. Very slim pickings, even the Dominican gang was missing. A few familiar faces. One old chica who has been there for years has lost some weight and does not look as bad as before came over and chatted me up. Told her she looked better which she takes as an invitation to make an offer. This tired old hag who has seen me taking an occasional girl out of there for years did not eve blink when she said $300 dollars!

Thought you guys would get a laugh out of that.

Where do they come up with this sh*t. Only in Argentina.