2012 Elections in the USA

Since the comment has been taken completely out of context by the media and even the Republicans have failed to properly address it, permit me to attempt to restore it to its original context.

The candidate was addressing the very small number of abortions which were preformed due to the victim being impregnated by the perpetrator of a rape, which is true.

I also find it amusing our liberal friends now wish to invoke the name of 'God' regarding this matter after liberals in general have attempted to erase any reference to such entity from the public domain and government for years even though such entity's name reoccurs through out all our founding documents as well as on our currency.

[QUOTE=Jackson; 428230]Wt, there you go again.

I don't know of a single person, Republican or otherwise, who believes that "rape is okay".

In fact, [u]YOU[/u] Don't know of a single person, Republican or otherwise, who believes that "rape is okay".

Publishing completely idiotic statements does not reflect well on your character.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]Yet you apparently don't think that publishing completely idiotic statements reflect on El Alamo's character, because he's littered this forum with them recently.

[QUOTE=Jackson; 428233]Gentlemen, this election is [u]NOT[/u] About some obscure Senate candidate who misspoke when making a statement about sexual assual.

Please do not let the Liberals divert your attention from what's really important:

- 8. 3% unemployment.

- $3. 80 per gallon gas.

- $1, 000, 000, 000, 000 annual budget deficits.

- $16, 000, 000, 000, 000 national debt.

- $51, 074. 84 of national debt owed by each citizen.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]It IS, however, in some measure about a general attitude among Republicans, including Romney, NOT to repudiate this sort of stupidity, and to continue to support those candidates efforts after they make these type of moronic comments.

[QUOTE=Esten; 428237]Folks, don't let Republican talking points distract you from the facts and the underlying policies driving our debt.

Dah! Could the underlying policies driving our debt be a President spending money like a drunken sailor while preventing job creation with onerous taxes and job killing regulations?

[QUOTE=Esten; 428073]Individuals and corporations sit on their cash, or invest in financial instruments or in other countries. Wall Street is already a huge parasite on the US economy. Low tax rates on capital gains and dividends, for example, only facilitate the transfer of wealth to Wall Street and wealthy investors. Republicans can't deny this. But they will defend it. Either by saying "But it's their money" (which is basically an admission it's not good economic policy). Or by blaming others, such as the government, for the failure of the wealthy to invest in a way that creates jobs. And their solution will always be the same, that basically we need to kiss their ass even more and hope for that wealth to trickle down.

World's Rich Are Hoarding $10 Trillion in Cash.

[url]http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2010/07/13/worlds-rich-are-hording-10-trillion-in-cash/[/url][/QUOTE]So it's not "their" money? Taking as much as you can from people is good economic policy? Communist governments and malevolent dictatorships are the best at taking people's money, so I guess they're the best at economic policy.

The cash and financial instruments the wealthy corporations and individuals are sitting on is in bank accounts, certificates of deposit, bonds, treasury bills, money market funds, etc. The money is used by borrowers to buy houses, expand businesses, fund the federal government deficit, and pay for schools, roads and bridges. Still, despite the billions or trillions being "hoarded", there's not enough domestic savings. So a large part of our federal government deficit is funded by the Chinese and other foreigners.

Depending on where you are, the top tax rate on interest income is currently between 35% and 47%. Next year, the top rate goes up 8.4 percentage points on interest income paid to individuals. Maybe that combined with low interest rates will cause behavior to change the way you want. I for one am going to spend more money on top flight hookers. You might as well spend it if otherwise the government is going to take it.

[QUOTE=El Alamo; 428243]

[QUOTE=Esten; 428237]Folks, don't let Republican talking points distract you from the facts and the underlying policies driving our debt.

Dah! Could the underlying policies driving our debt be a President spending money like a drunken sailor while preventing job creation with onerous taxes and job killing regulations?[/QUOTE]Well, as the graph Esten posted makes clear, that certainly WAS the case under George W. Bush, but not so much under Obama.

Well, guys, I don't know how to break this to you but there are no undecided voters on this forum and there are no undecided voters in all the United states that will be influenzed by the impressive intellectuals on this board.

This has been a lot of fun. My advice on election night is to sit down, take a deep breath and don't forget to take your medication.

[QUOTE=Member #2041;428246]
Well, as the graph Esten posted makes clear, that certainly WAS the case under George W. Bush, but not so much under Obama.[/QUOTE]

Bush and Obama and Congress spent like drunken sailors. What's your point? Romney knows how to balance budgets. He's proved that at Bain and with the Olympics. Ryan, at considerable political risk, has actually come out with proposals that would balance the budget.

Don't want anyone to get upset and go out and do a random shooting but my guess is Benghasi will become synonymous with 'Remember El Alamo'. The difference is that Santa Ana will be Obama.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;428248]Bush and Obama and Congress spent like drunken sailors. What's your point? Romney knows how to balance budgets. He's proved that at Bain and with the Olympics. Ryan, at considerable political risk, has actually come out with proposals that would balance the budget.[/QUOTE]Member 2041 doesn't have a point, he just makes snide remarks and childish insults. He's the new version of
badboy 13, he shouldn't be allowed access to a computer without adult supervision. IMHO

Agreed. Maybe Jackson should filter the posts of member 2041 to reduce the number of migraine headaches member 2041 has induced.

[QUOTE=El Alamo;428252]Agreed. Maybe Jackson should filter the posts of member 2041 to reduce the number of migraine headaches member 2041 has induced.[/QUOTE]It wouldn't be the first time that people censor opinions that they can't refute with logic and actual, legitimate data. We recognize it for what it would be, a tacit admission of defeat - when self-proclaimed Libertarians determine that they can't handle free speech that they disagree with.

[QUOTE=Punter 127; 428251]Member 2041 doesn't have a point, he just makes snide remarks and childish insults. He's the new version of.

Badboy 13, he shouldn't be allowed access to a computer without adult supervision. IMHO[/QUOTE]Don't confuse your inability to understand the point I am making with there not being one. It should be pretty obvious to anyone literate that the point is the hypocrisy, the inability to actually deal with facts, and the glaring double standards demonstrated by the right wingers here. That being said, I did mention that one would need to be literate to grasp it, so you're excused on that basis, Punter 127, as is El Alamo.

In any case, I'll do you all a favor and cease posting on this Election thread, since this entire discussion, given it's participants, is clearly a worthless enterprise.

Member 2041, Why don't you stay on, but stop implying the rest of us are morons, idiots, illiterates, hypocrites and, worst of all, litterers. Moveon and SnakeOilSales have moved on, Matt Psyche only comes by to this thread occasionally, WT69 likes Gary Johnson and the flat tax, and Esten disappears for long stretches. You're now the only consistent token liberal Democrat.

Member 2041.

Calm down. The world is not coming to an end. A landslide defeat for Obama is not the end of the world.

But please, get your prescription refilled