2004 Reports - Edited

Okay, I'm down to T minus 6 days for my arrival. I haven't been for 3 years, I only have 36 hours, I may not be back for a couple of months, and I DON't want to blow it. I've RTFB over and over, but I went to public schools.

So, I'm going to make some statements, and, perhaps, my misunderstandings can be corrected:

"The Triangle" is comprised of several Boliches. Notably Cattos, Madahos and Black. All have roughly a $A25 entrance fee, Cattos is the least expensive overall at $A150 minus the Dickhead factor, if you are good. Madahos a bit more, and quality is reported down. Black a little/ a lot more, never reported worth the price here. All seem to be rather stringent on service time.

Bottom line, Cattos seems to be the best value among Boliches.

"The Mansion" is a private Jackson deal, although sometimes members are invited for dinners and parties.

Cuttysark is in the tank.

Orleans is more miss than hit.

Newports has become the wild, wild west. YMMV from a great experience to getting robbed. The price is no longer a bargain compared to the boliches. There are not other clubs like Newports that are a good value.

Street girls are problematic.

The only reliable internet site for escorts is [url]www.escorts-argentina.com[/url]. The prices listed are usually $300 for a half day (US Dollars, I think). There are almost no reviews of girls from here (although I'm sure there is some overlap). It is the opinion of this board that, aside from being far less fun, they are not a good value, either.

So, it would seem that the apartamentos continue to be a great value, particularly if you follow guidance for location/girls reviewed here, during the day. Of course, I assume most will be closed on Sunday. All the clubs are fun to see at night, but the best prices are at Cattos, then Madahos.


Offer still stands for drinks Sunday afternoon night. Just tell me when and where.

Mav

[QUOTE=California Guy]I am going to be in BA this first few weeks of Jan. Probably around the 5th-14th but I heard everyone leaves? I have never been so I am kind of bummed if that is the situation as I was looking forward to meeting some beautiful South American beauties. Maybe some good clubs will be going on still? Well any advice would be great and if anyone else will be there I would like to meet if interested.

Thanks and take care!

Cali[/QUOTE]

California Guy,

If you want to met he beautiful babes during that time, head over to Punte Del Este.

JavMav

Your summation is reasonable except:

The Triangle is Cattos, Hook, and across the street Ness. None charges a cover to enter. Drinks are 12 p at Cattos, 15 at Ness and I can't remember Hook because I don't usually go there. Drinks for the girls are 25 at Cattos and 30 at Ness. Madahos is not in the Triangle, which is about 900 Suipacha, or near the corner of Suipacha and Paraguay. Madahos is up in Recoleta near the cemetery and Black is also in Recoleta near the Alvear Hotel. 150 is reasonable in Catto and Ness plus a drink for the girl for one to two hours. (If you have some Spanish and have had the Dickhead Seminar for Pussy Investors (DSPI) there may be considerable variance.

Don't forget 921 Suipacha, an apartment almost across the street from Cattos. Floor 6C . Excellent service at 100 p. for an hour.
Also, 1707 Santa Fe has been very good for me.

Orleans can be excellent in the afternoons, I don't think much of it at night.
There can be outstanding people at Excedra late in the evening.
Newport is totally open; there may be some risk there. Street girls can be fine with specific recommendations, otherwise why spend the time investigating?

Hope this helps

Stormy

[QUOTE=JavMav]"The Triangle" is comprised of several Boliches. Notably Cattos, Madahos and Black. All have roughly a $A25 entrance fee, Cattos is the least expensive overall at $A150 minus the Dickhead factor, if you are good. Madahos a bit more, and quality is reported down. Black a little/ a lot more, never reported worth the price here. All seem to be rather stringent on service time.

Bottom line, Cattos seems to be the best value among Boliches.

All the clubs are fun to see at night, but the best prices are at Cattos, then Madahos. Mav[/QUOTE]

Madaho's and Black are in Recoleta and not in the Triangle which is in the Microcenter and comprises Catto's, Ness, and Hook. Hook is where you can get the maximum amount of counterfeit money possible and has the added bonus of the world's biggest kunt for a bartender. There are no covers at any of those three places.

Madaho's has the highest prices in town except for maybe Black. By no means is it the next cheapest place than Catto's.

Suerte,

DH

[QUOTE=JavMav]Okay, I'm down to T minus 6 days for my arrival. I haven't been for 3 years, I only have 36 hours, I may not be back for a couple of months, and I DON't want to blow it. I've RTFB over and over, but I went to public schools.

So, I'm going to make some statements, and, perhaps, my misunderstandings can be corrected:

"The Triangle" is comprised of several Boliches. Notably Cattos, Madahos and Black. All have roughly a $A25 entrance fee, Cattos is the least expensive overall at $A150 minus the Dickhead factor, if you are good. Madahos a bit more, and quality is reported down. Black a little/ a lot more, never reported worth the price here. All seem to be rather stringent on service time.

Bottom line, Cattos seems to be the best value among Boliches.[/quote]
No. The triangle is Cattos, Hook, and Ness. Black is totally separate, as is Madahos.

[quote]"The Mansion" is a private Jackson deal, although sometimes members are invited for dinners and parties.[/quote]
Read "The Mansion" thread.

[quote]Cuttysark is in the tank.[/quote]
No

[Quote]Orleans is more miss than hit.[/quote]
No, varies with time of day, your mood, her mood, your attitude, her attitude, your wallet, her need.

[quote]Newports has become the wild, wild west. YMMV from a great experience to getting robbed. The price is no longer a bargain compared to the boliches. There are not other clubs like Newports that are a good value.[/quote]

Still good.

[quote]Street girls are problematic.[/quote]
Avoid

[quote]The only reliable internet site for escorts is [url]www.escorts-argentina.com[/url]. The prices listed are usually $300 for a half day (US Dollars, I think). There are almost no reviews of girls from here (although I'm sure there is some overlap). It is the opinion of this board that, aside from being far less fun, they are not a good value, either.[/quote]
Wrong on all counts. Negotiate, also try [url]www.area-vip.com.ar[/url] and [url]www.gemidos[/url] com. [url]www.escorts-argentina.com[/url] will always have accurate pictures.

[quote]So, it would seem that the apartamentos continue to be a great value, particularly if you follow guidance for location/girls reviewed here, during the day. Of course, I assume most will be closed on Sunday. All the clubs are fun to see at night, but the best prices are at Cattos, then Madahos.[/quote]
The "best" all depends on your perception. Nothing is certain in this hobby, except that you meet some very beautiful girls in a very short amount of time. With a little bit of effort, you can have a great time.

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

JavMav,

On the English version of EscortsArgentina, most girls quote U$S 100,- for short time (ca. 1 hr). The Spanish version has no price at all. Interesting, because that clearly shows it's a gringo price, so nobody should pay it.

And there is no need to pay that. prices are subject to negotiation, and most of these girls will be happy to visit you for A$R 15,,- to 200,-. Spanish skills of course help.

In your case, with the very limited time available, I suggest to contact Roxana, give her a list of maybe 3 .. 5 names and phone numbers of internet girls, and ask her to make you a "welcome appointment" just after your arrival. There are some gems on the net, like Gabi and Bruna (own experience) or Alexia (very good reports ) from said web site. Of course, you have no idea of the girl's personality, just her looks, on the other side it also can happen with a club girl that she makes a great show in the boliche to convince you, and turns out rather dull later.

have fun!

El Alemán

As long as JavMav is getting such a stellar response to his request for information, I thought he'd be better off learning the [b]proper[/b] name for the "triangle"!!

I'd like to call the "Triangle" the "Quadrangle". [url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12172][red]Here's[/red][/url] why!

Knuckhead

That mixes apples (privados) and oranges (boliches), unless of course you want to thrown in Pipper's Pub. On second thought, let's throw Pipper's Pub [b]out[/b]. Way, way, out. But anyway since there are (at least) two privados in Suipacha 921 it becomes a type of geometric anomaly.

Perhaps a different triangle would be in order: [b]three[/b] girls from Suipacha 921. Should be able to get that for 150 for 40 minutes, I'd think.

Hey Stormy I know you are reading this so perhaps you could suggest another type of triangle (MMA). Ha ha.

Those in the know always say "Triangle". Unfortunately the naming rights are held by a street hooker named Yolanda who works the "magic bench" on Marcelo T. de Alvear in from Cerrito. She is willing to negotiate, but the bidding starts at 1000 pesos. Upstarts think they can come and call it anything, but they need to check with Yolanda.

Doubt if this helps

Stormy

Thanks for the responses. Told you I went to public schools. Worse, I send my kids there, too...

So CuttySark and Newports aren't ALL bad. Cool. Met the love of my life there. Hoping to bring her to the Mansion on Sunday.

So Hook, Cattos and Ness. I think I'm going to make a list of every establishment I can find on these pages and post a poll. Don't worry, I'll put in on Nibo's board where nobody will have to see it.

I've got to buy Dickhead a beer or 15. Andrew Dice Clay meets Bs As. Of all the boards of all the countries and states of all the boards I've had to read, DH's posts are simply the best. I don't care if I or anybody agrees with every opinion. He is true to his, and should be revered!

The plan is coming into view. First, try to weasel my way into the mansion party on Sunday afternoon. Will try to bring my Miriam, but only half hoping she can come. Later to the triangle/quadrangle and Recoletta to see Newports again. Go to Orleans late Monday morning. Offer DH prices for a 10am fling. Get a massage at the hotel (1/2 price for my colleagues, I think), then find one of the board favorites at an apartment. Sleep, then fly home, be happy for two days, then fret about arranging my next 'business' trip.

Of course, plans always change.

In response to AllIWantIsLove's question about the HTML defining the website
[url]http://www.area-vip.com.ar/area/area-vip.htm[/url]

The source you found on the top level page refer to the following parts of the page:
titulo.htm: the "title" along the top of the page
menu.htm: the menu bar down the left hand side
menu2.htm: the spinning AV below Buenos Airies and the current date

Here's how the HTML works: when you click on a city from the left-hand menu (e.g. "Buenos Aires") a script in menu.htm "swaps" the image (via one of the predefined javascript functions) with the image in frame "3" which is what you call "the main part of the window" (where the spinning AV is originally). You would have to work through the function to see how it generates the file names (non-trivial).

However, I think there is a simpler way to get what you want, which I assume is a reference to all the embedded files. Bring up one of the pages with the thumbnail pictures of the women. The following will vary by browser but I use (and recommend) Firefox from Mozilla: click right over the "main part" and the context menu will include "This Frame" with subcommands "View Frame Source" and "View Frame Info" that will contain what I think you want.

Hardly any of the guys who post on this board have ever done street girls so how the fuck would they know if they are "problematic"? Many have their own opinions based completely on stereotypes and experiences in other places. I don't do street girls too often but I have not had any problems and I have done like maybe 7 or 8 down here. You have to know what you are doing and I would say it is better not to take them to your hotel or apartment until you have gotten to know them. Of course, I always do since I am too much of a Dickhead to pay for a transitorio; that eats up the whole cost savings.

Flame away, boys.

Is is better to pickup a street girl trashed out of your mind ? This way if she is lousy or you are setup for a robbery you might forget that it even took place . Is that how you like to work it ?

Or do you prefer doing it sobber and stupid ?

Those who do choose to pick up street girls can do a few things to limit risk. Have little or no cash on you, then negotiate price, then tell her to wait, then get the agreed on amount out of the ATM. Do not use the hotel she suggests but rather any other one. Don't pay up front. Then if she robs you, all she robs you of is pussy anyway. If you do take her to your hotel, consider switching rooms or even hotels the next day. And use your condoms and not hers which could be old or dried out. Ask to see her documento.

Usually if I do a street girl, it's one I've seen walking around two or three times or more, and have talked to her a couple of times. The Magic Wall is good for this, as is the famous doorway on Florida and Paraguay.

For those leaving home at the end of week to get here, you need to be aware that Sundays are not a good day at the clubs. If you can get a night flight on Friday that gets in on Saturday morning, you could manage a reasonably good night on Saturday and use Sunday as your recovery day. I have done this before elsewhere and it can work. Anyone taking a Saturday flight will only be able to start enjoying the club scene from Monday as it starts getting better eventually reaching its peak on Thursdays. The clubs are open and it is probably the quietest day. You can be lucky even on a Sunday. Depends who you meet.

I went to the San Telmo market for an hour or so on Sunday. Worth it if you haven´t been there before. In the evening I just poked my head into Madahos. I had one drink and left alone.

Going out every day can become tiring and repetitive. There is always an underlying need to make every day of the vacation count. I am more of a quality guy than a quantity guy. I am not keeping a tally of how many I have had. It doesn´t matter in my view. All that matters to me is the totality of the experience.

Also, going out every day invariably ends up with 3 or 4 or 5 drinks each evening. All this will take its toll.

I am happy to rest up a bit.