Buenos Aires - 2002 Reports

LA Larry

RE: Mar del Plata

After reading about all the great tales of hobbyin' in Argentina, I'm lusting for a trip. I'm thinking late November/ early December or late January/early February for my first visit. Any preferences between the two periods weather wise or holiday/festival wise? November/December being their summer how warm would it be? Likewise in their fall (January/February)? Would a side trip from BA to Mar del Plata be a bit too adventurous for a neophyte to Argentina- and one who speaks a little spanish and not too fluently.

How safe is the 5 hour train ride? By that I mean it's route (considering current economic times) as well as the safety of one's self and luggage. Are the trains similar to Euro trains where you're luggage is overhead and you don't dare fall asleep or it may not be there later? Approximately what would one expect to pay for a round trip train ride compared to a flight? I haven't read about anyone having a recommended travel agent in BA? Would one's hotel typically be helpful here?

Where is the Hotel Manantiales in relation to the Sheraton and what star rating would you give it? Any ideas on the rates? 700 Internet cafes? How large is MDP? And by European and sophisticated should one take it to mean that people in MDP tend to dress rather fashionable. And how does this compare to Buenos Aires? I don't wish to be seen as impolite or the tacky tourist.

How would you split your time between BA and MDP for either a one week or two week trip?

Also on the la Plata thread there was mention of a remis. I read this as being a car and driver for hire. How does this work? Costs, contacting, finding reputable remis'?

To all the people on this board thanks for the wonderful info, anecdotes and ideas!

Andres,

Very nice report! I have a question: are there places like Estilo Nuevo Boliche in Palermo, for example? What about Boca? Barrio Norte? I assume that if you know La Capital Federal that there are places like Estilo Nuevo almost everywhere, can you tell me if I'm right about this? Also, how far a ride is the Flores Quarter from say Belgrano? DownBA

DownBA:

Depending on what do you consider Palermo (Palermo is the biggest neighborhood of the city), there could be some places. I remember that one of these were near the corner of Julian Alvarez St. and Santa Fe Av., but maybe the place is close now.

Forget about La Boca. The place is dangerous at night, and you won't find acceptable material. Constitucion is near La Boca, so people from La Boca do their hobbying in Constitucion. I heard that many TVs and SWs stroll near the "Puente Viejo" of Pedro de Mendoza Av, near Vuelta de Rocha. However, I heard that they charge p10 for BJ, so imagine the quality what you may find there.

Barrio Norte has private apartments instead of in-house activity, with the exception of the Cordoba Av. And Pueyrredon Av. area (La Saison, Pueyrredon between Cordoba and Paraguay; and Affaire). Usually, highly populated, upper middle class districts don't harbour these places.

Traditionally, the mongering quarters were Flores, Pacifico (Plaza Italia), Once (there is a place open in Rivadavia Av. and Matheu St.), Recoleta and Constitucion. These places followed the transportation proximity pattern (that is, all of these quarters are next to or near major railway or bus stations, Retiro being the exception)

Flores shoud be between 30 and 60 minutes from Belgrano (depending on the traffic hour), no more than 7-10 km away. A cab should charge less than p10. The JB Justo Av. connects Palermo with Flores (from Santa Fe Av. to Nazca Av.) Buy a Peuser Guide in any kiosco (newspaper booths). It comes with a map and descriptions.


High on Hobbyin:

Fall starts on March. In January and February, girls migrate to MDP to do business there. Maybe, that's the best time to hit the city.

You don't have to take a train. There are plenty of buses from Retiro for a few Dollars that will bring you there in 4 hours. Buses are cleaner and safer.

MDP usd to have 500k inhabitants, but the collapse of fishing and textiles industries made 10% migrate in the last 4 years. You may compare it with other Mediterranean major beach city, so there is some European influence (you should notice it in the architecture).

Hope this helps.

Andres

Andres,

Great reporting, great info, you really sound like you're having a great time fucking around La Capital Federal, wish I could be joining you but I don't think I'll be able to make it til October or November. Keep the great reports coming. DownBA

Would somebody please give me directions on how to view pics that people have posted on WSGForum? I'd appreciate any help I can get. Thanks, DownBA

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Hi!

Short but juicy journey last night.

Mondays are usually dead for mongering activity in BA outside Recoleta, and I confirmed it by watching the SW scene in Constitucion and Flores again: Lonely streets.

I went to the JB Justo area (Flores), where I found out that Scorpions and Maraha were closed. These places had Police precints sealing the entrance doors, so I imagine that he Federal Police is closing many pubs with in-house rooms. However, Artigas (Artigas St. and JB Justo Av.) was open.

4 years ago, you would have found there Playboy material by dozens, asking $200 for 1 hour. Yesterday, I saw lame material: Girls with pig legs, rhino bellies and ape faces asking p80 for 30 minutes and p200 for 1 hour (go figure why having 2 sessions with 2 girls cost less than 1 long session...). The decoration and ambience rank among the best in Buenos Aires, but the girls department needs an upgrade. Too bad...

I left the place thinking where to go. I remembered that Salome (Billinghurst St. and Cordoba Av.) uses to host 40 girls, so I headed there. The place has a bar in the first floor and a simulated boat in the basement (the basement has a triangle shape and its walls are covered by wood. It resembles a boat). Most girls were 6s. However, I spotted Debora, my favorite provider.

I should write a book about this girl. Out of the hundreds of girls that I met in this "industry", none of them were as good as her. She is really beautiful, but not a stunner (8 or 9): 5'8", big c-cups, thick lips, nice slim waist and wide and soft butts. And what a soft and fruity skin! She is really charming, always with the best attitude and eager to please. I decided to do my 6th try since 1999 (I seldom go out with the same girl more than twice). p10 my drink, p20 her allowance to leave and p100 for a hotel session. We went to a nearby hotel (p25 the intermediate room). She provided an unlimited load of caresses and kisses (GFE is a small word for her attitude), and then showed her perfect skills in her duties: Excellent BBBJ and incredible FS (never saw a girl moving that way in bed, not even former girlfriends in horny mode!). After that, some massage and chatting. As usual, she never asks for money before, she waits for you to offer it, and no hassle to come back to the bar after the 2 hours expire. Sweet...

Hope to visit some Recoleta places next time

Andres

Dear High on Hobbin'

Here are the answers to your questions!

QUESTION: Any preferences between the two periods weather wise or holiday/festival wise? November/December being their summer how warm would it be?

ANSWER: It gets very hot and HUMID in their summer. Better off going in their fall or spring if you can. But on the other hand, if you are from a cold place in the states, maybe the hot weather of BA is just what the doctor would order for you.

QUESTION: Would a side trip from BA to Mar del Plata be a bit too adventurous for a neophyte to Argentina?

ANSWER: ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! Mar Del Plata is a fantastic fucking place! I loved it. Its like a shaggy dog French Riviera city. But it has some fantastic night life, hotels, restaurants, beaches, etc. You will never be bored in MDP nor will you feel like you are on an adventure. MDP was extremely safe and as up to date as BA.

QUESTION: How safe is the 5 hour train ride? By that I mean it's route (considering current economic times) as well as the safety of one's self and luggage. Are the trains similar to Euro trains where you're luggage is overhead and you don't dare fall asleep or it may not be there later? Approximately what would one expect to pay for a round trip train ride compared to a flight?

ANSWER: The train to MDP sucks. Its a slow boat to fucking China and only worth taking for the experience. (It was however extremely safe and dirt cheap---something like 30 pesos for 1st Class which isnt saying much. No AC, putrid bathrooms, extremely uncomfortable seats. If you are expecting Euro trains, then you will be severely dissappointed. The trip seemed like a juorney across Siberia. I STRONGLY SUGGEST TAKING THE BUS OR FLYING. The plane ride takes 45 minutes and is extremey cheap maybe $60 US dollars round trip.


QUESTION: Where is the Hotel Manantiales in relation to the Sheraton and what star rating would you give it?

ANSWER: The Manantiales is a three minute (1.50 peso cab ride) or a ten minute walk. Check out pmy previous post for the web site for rates. I LIKE THE MANATIALES BECAUSE THEY ARE 1 BEDROOM APARTMENTS WITH MAID SERVICE. (You get a magnificient view of the ocean, a great terrace and a nice kitchen).

QUESTION: 700 Internet cafes in MDP?

ANSWER: Yes, they are all the fucking rage, on every block. You literally can't walk one block downtown without passing at least internet cafe. INCREDIBLY CHEAP AS WELL.


QUESTION: How would you split your time between BA and MDP for either a one week or two week trip?

ANSWER: Depends on one's tastes. If I had three weeks in Argentina I would spend 8 days in MDP and 13 days in BA. YOU WILL LOVE THE VIBE IN MDP, but afterall BA is a huge pool of women to chase. MDP only has a few hobby bars (the one near the Sheraton is great!)

QUESTION: Also on the la Plata thread there was mention of a remis. I read this as being a car and driver for hire. How does this work? Costs, contacting, finding reputable remis'?
ANSWER: Sorry dont know. But I assure you that you have no need of feeling anything but relaxed about going to MDP. I was shocked how much it reminded me of Nice, except that I loved it so much more!

L A Larry,

I have been a silent reader of the WSG Argentina posts for quite some time.

I really enjoy your posts.

They are come across as real and feel like a good buddy sitting next to me describing his latest adventure.

Know that there are many who read your posts with appreciation....... albiet...silently.

If the current exchange rate continues. I am very seriously considering BA for my late December.

High on Hobbyin,

There's nothing to finding a remis at all. Just ask the receptionist to find a rate to where you want to go, tell her when you want to be picked up and she'll arrange it for you. Every hotel has at least a few remis services that they use. A remis is just a fancy taxi without the meter, like what we'd call a "car service." They're really reasonable there too, but I don't think it'll pay to take one to Mar De Plata but you never know. Happy mongering in the holy shrine of the sport you lucky bastard. Can't wait to get down there again. DownBA

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rickster
[i]L A Larry, I have been a silent reader of the WSG Argentina posts for quite some time.

I really enjoy your posts. Know that there are many who read your posts with appreciation....... albiet...silently.

If the current exchange rate continues. I am very seriously considering BA for my late December. [/i][/QUOTE]

I completely agree with Rickster, I really appreciate LA LARRYs' posts, really enjoiable. Also liked The Saint's posts and comments, very helpful, ... I hope I'll have as much fun as he had, im late 20's too ...
And because I am very confident that the current exchange rate will hold in the next few months, if not years, I have just booked 10 days in BA, end of October, early November, staying in Design Suites .... actually if anybody has info about this cool-looking aoart-hotel it would be really helpfull .... hope they are guest-friendly ..... Anybody going to BA around that time, weather should be warm but not too hot .....

Cheers, Ro
rob_roy5@hotmail.com

Robroy,

Thanks for those nice words. I know you'll love it. My friend has stayed at Design Suites and loved it. Said the staff was great and chica friendly. He also said they had a nice restaurant downstairs. I think Starfe also checked it out and had good things to say about it. I think the rooms look cool and Starfe's seal of approval peaked my interest. The only negative I have is it's not in Recoleta but there are tons of taxis.

Yes, you are correct. The exchange rate will be good for years and years not months. Their problems are severe. Good luck and have fun!

I also like to say thanks to LA Larry, Otto, Saint, Starfe and many, many others. I too, really enjoy reading your postings and the Argentine section for that matter. I think most feel our hobby is a bit on the edge sometimes, but is nice to meet people who are as decent and gentle as I think of myself.

The last time I have been to BA is now more than three years ago and I did visit SHAMPOO at the time. This is a basement nightclub and at the time it was rather expensive. I got the know the black guy at the door who gave me advice when I needed. They had some shows with transsexuals, but the girls in the club were great. I will go back by the end of the year and intend to stay for a year or so. At the time, I stayed at the Intercontinental, which is far from the action. Don't get me wrong, it is a nice hotel, but a hassle to get girls in. (they had to register, again at the time) This time I will take my que from this board.

However, one thing that Starfe wrote made me fall off my chair. He wrote that the "LoiSuites" staff was assisting him in the negotiations with the girls. I have tried to imagine how this worked out and am still breaking my head. Either this is the best hotel in town, or Starfe possesses an alien sort of management authority. In case of the latter, it should be considered being educated amongst business faculties. "The Starfe Style- a comprehensive introduction to hobbying with absolute control"

Best...

amsterdamned,

that's the whole truth!!
i speaks nada spanish. i had the staff making appt and telling the girls what i wanted to spend. i plan on staying at the designsuites on my next trip but i also booked the loisuites just in case the staff at design does not meet or beat the lois group attention.

rooms at design were nicer. thats the( executive suite room) was nicer. their smaller rooms were just ok.

lois i think has a better location.

starfe

I will be heading down to Buenos Aires on July 30 for 9 days of some serious mongering. I will do my level best to post reports but "events" often have a way of taking over and your time is spend doing other things. However, I take my "responsibilities" to the forum seriously and will make my reports either while I am recovering or in between sessions.

I will be staying in a 1 bedroom apartment 4 blocks from the Etoile. Most of the reports from BA that I've seen here concern hotels so perhaps a report or two on the apartment scene in Recoleta might be of some use to other mongers in their future planning.

LA Larry has talked quite glowingly about Mar del Plata so I have planned a 2 night weekend trip (by air) to MDP. Larry is right the round trip airfares are quite reasonable (171 pesos - all taxes & charges included) and so are the rates at the Manantailes (134 pesos per night - all taxes & charges included). Report to follow.

Hope to meet some fellow mongers down there. If anybody else from the board is going to be there during that time frame drop me a line at tooshman@hotmail.com. It's going to be great.

Toosh

i'll be in b.a. (on the way to las lenas) end of aug. please advise regarding getting cash from an atm.

atm is the best way to have local cash (better than travelers checks, exchanging currency, even using a credit card for non-girl spends). but unlike all other places, i hear in b.a. the atm's are not functioning and are out of cash.

is this true?

thx!