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[QUOTE=Tiny12;439970]There have been studies conducted by psychologists, where they test the proposition that people would prefer to have less, as long as they have more than their neighbors. That's true, people do feel that way, and it's related to the reason why the majority of Americans agree with you.[/QUOTE]Shucks! Finally, you gave me the answer to my sleepless nights. My neighbor's wife tits are larger than mine.
[QUOTE=RevBS;439973]Shucks! Finally, you gave me the answer to my sleepless nights. My neighbor's wife tits are larger than mine.[/QUOTE]Reverend, I have met you and I know you jest. Your tits are very large. (Just kidding).
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/06/18/maybe-listening-to-dick-cheney-on-iraq-isnt-a-good-idea/?tid=pm_pop
What do you do with guys like that. The only patriotic act that he know is checking his bank account.
[B]They can't all be patriotic community organizers.[/B]
[QUOTE=RevBS;440013][b]Please, somebody throw a cactus at this guy![/b]
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/06/18/maybe-listening-to-dick-cheney-on-iraq-isnt-a-good-idea/?tid=pm_pop[/url]
What do you do with guys like that. The only patriotic act that he know is checking his bank account.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MSNBC's ED Schultz]"Youre damn right, Dick Cheney's heart's a political football. We ought to rip it out and kick it around and stuff it back in him."[/QUOTE]Rev BS and [STRIKE]Sgt[/STRIKE] Ed Schultz cut from the same cloth?
[QUOTE=Punter127;440022][B]They can't all be patriotic community organizers.[/B]
Rev BS and [STRIKE]Sgt[/STRIKE] Ed Schultz cut from the same cloth?[/QUOTE]I don't even know who this guy is! But it was rumored that Hannity & you were caught holding hands? Oops, I mean a Koch Brothers banner? Why be a warrior for fossil fuels and high utility bills? Yes, I know, alternative energy is un-American. And you don't think there is connection between Iraq, Cheney and Halliburton. You think there is a huge difference between Cheney & Christina? They have the same mindset, to loot the system. Just in different ways while spewing patriotic jargon to inspire the choir, and misdirect & confuse the uncaring public.
[QUOTE=RevBS;440023]I don't even know who this guy is! But it was rumored that Hannity & you were caught holding hands? Oops, I mean a Koch Brothers banner? Why be a warrior for fossil fuels and high utility bills? Yes, I know, alternative energy is un-American. And you don't think there is connection between Iraq, Cheney and Halliburton. You think there is a huge difference between Cheney & Christina? They have the same mindset, to loot the system. Just in different ways while spewing patriotic jargon to inspire the choir, and misdirect & confuse the uncaring public.[/QUOTE]I'm not defending Cheney I don't even like the guy. I'm just tired of your cheap personal attacks on people. If you got a case to make against Cheney, Halliburton and Iraq lets hear it, otherwise you're just blowing hot air. Did Cheney do something illegal, if so why hasn't he been prosecuted?
Don't try to put words in my mouth I never called alternative energy un-american, did you pull that out of your ass? And when did alternative energy become cheaper than fossil fuel energy? (although it will be if the out of control EPA has its way.) I assure you when alternative energy becomes available and cheaper than fossil fuel Americans will buy it. But we absolutely don't have the ability to replace fossil fuel energy at this time. Would you have us sit in the fucking dark until we do have that ability? I guess you would also have us believe Obama and his boys are not "of the mindset to loot the system", can you say Solyndra?
The United States could be energy independent by now if Obama hadn't pissed away our time and money on alternative energy pipe dreams. We should have been converting everything possible to natural gas and we should have built offshore LNG loading facilities and LNG carriers. Just think what LNG along with the Keystone Pipeline would do for our economy, Russia knows how to play the game and now they have a pretty good hold on the balls of Europe. We could very easily tell the middle east to stick their oil up their ass, but Obama has refused to get onboard.
There was a time that I supported fighting for oil but not now, things have changed and we now have the technology and the resources to be energy independent, and I do not support sending troops back to Iraq.
You act as if Cheney got us in the Iraq war all by himself, do I need to remind you that Bush had bipartisan support for going into Iraq.
[B]Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Harry Reid, John Kerry, Dianne Feinstein, and Chuck Schumer[/B] just to name a few Democrats who voted for the Iraq Resolution authorizing military action against Iraq.
[QUOTE=Punter127;440024]I'm just tired of your cheap personnel attacks on people. If you got a case to make against Cheney, Halliburton and Iraq lets hear it, otherwise you're just blowing hot air. Did Cheney do something illegal, if so why hasn't he been prosecuted?[/QUOTE]And so your words and the movements of your lips don't quite synchronized the way it should. A caricature in the steamy shaving mirror.
Corruption in America is not of the same variety as in third world countries. It is very sophisticated. It has been made legal by the biggest army of lawyers the world has ever seen. Just think Congress and the funding of elections, think Wall St. Think Treasury Secretaries. Think Cheney, from Secretary of Defense to CEO of Halliburton. Cheney is a super smart guy, definitely president material. If only he would use his talents for the betterment of the US and humankind. He has no conscience, unlike Bush, who is now trying to forgive himself for all the wasted lives under his watch. Painting, gardening, road biking, all such good healing therapies.
Your useless community organizer was amongst the legislators who vote nay. But you already knew that.
[QUOTE=Punter127;440024]If you got a case to make against Cheney, Halliburton and Iraq lets hear it, otherwise you're just blowing hot air. Did Cheney do something illegal, if so why hasn't he been prosecuted?[/QUOTE]Exactly.
[QUOTE=Punter127;440024]I assure you when alternative energy becomes available and cheaper than fossil fuel Americans will buy it.[/QUOTE]It's a simple as that. We use fossil fuels because fossil fuels are the most efficient (cheapest) form of energy on the planet at this time. When that changes, we will switch.
[QUOTE=Punter127;440024]We could very easily tell the middle east to stick their oil up their ass, but Obama has refused to get onboard.[/QUOTE]Exactly.
[QUOTE=Punter127;440024]There was a time that I supported fighting for oil but not now, things have changed and we now have the technology and the resources to be energy independent, and I do not support sending troops back to Iraq.[/QUOTE]I agree with your 100%. At the time, I was a solid supporter of America's attempt to liberate the Iraqi people from their murderious dictator, but with time I've come to see that these people lack the courage to fight for themselves for their own political freedoms, and you can't help people who won't help themselves.
I say now let's focus on our own energy independence and let the people in the Middle East live with the governments they deserve.
Thanks,
Jax.
[QUOTE=Jackson;440028]Exactly.
It's a simple as that. We use fossil fuels because fossil fuels are the most efficient (cheapest) form of energy on the planet at this time. When that changes, we will switch.
Exactly.
I agree with your 100%. At the time, I was a solid supporter of America's attempt to liberate the Iraqi people from their murderious dictator, but with time I've come to see that these people lack the courage to fight for themselves for their own political freedoms, and you can't help people who won't help themselves.
I say now let's focus on our own energy independence and let the people in the Middle East live with the governments they deserve.
Thanks,
Jax.[/QUOTE]You guys keep continuing with those tired cliches, almost like listening to the Spanish soccer team press conferences.
[QUOTE=RevBS;440027]
Corruption in America is not of the same variety as in third world countries. It is very sophisticated. It has been made legal by the biggest army of lawyers the world has ever seen. Just think Congress and the funding of elections, think Wall St. Think Treasury Secretaries. Think Cheney, from Secretary of Defense to CEO of Halliburton. Cheney is a super smart guy, definitely president material. If only he would use his talents for the betterment of the US and humankind. He has no conscience, unlike Bush, who is now trying to forgive himself for all the wasted lives under his watch. Painting, gardening, road biking, all such good healing therapies.[/QUOTE]By "army of lawyers" are you speaking of people like Michelle and Barack Obama or Hillary and Bill Clinton perhaps you're speaking of John Kerry or Harry Reid? I believe all those folks have a law degree, but funny thing is neither Cheney or Bush are lawyers. Tell me again what Cheney has done that's illegal? You can't just make shit up as you go along, but as we can plainly see you certainly try.
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Your mirror is foggy & cracked!
Your useless community organizer was amongst the legislators who vote nay. But you already knew that.[/QUOTE]I don't have, don't need, and have never needed a " community organizer" and neither did America. If you're speaking of Obama please document his "nay" vote, because I do [B]not[/B] already know that, and I believe your statement is false! What's that you said about a foggy & cracked mirror again?
[QUOTE=Punter127;440030]By "army of lawyers" are you speaking of people like Michelle and Barack Obama or Hillary and Bill Clinton perhaps you're speaking of John Kerry or Harry Reid? I believe all those folks have a law degree, but funny thing is neither Cheney or Bush are lawyers. Tell me again what Cheney has done that's illegal? You can't just make shit up as you go along, but as we can plainly see you certainly try.
I don't have, don't need, and have never needed a " community organizer" and neither did America. If you're speaking of Obama please document his "nay" vote, because I do [B]not[/B] already know that, and I believe your statement is false! What's that you said about a foggy & cracked mirror again?[/QUOTE]Obama was not elected to the Senate until 2004, and joined the Senate in 2005. On Oct. 2, 2002, as a Illinois state senator, he gave a speech opposing the war, and the votes for the war were cast later that month. But his opposition to the Iraq War has been consistent and well documented. Are you denying that? Ah, yes, but for the tree in the forest!
And for the "lawyers", ingenious as you are, I don't know what is your point.
"Community Organizer". Who came up with that, Donald Trump, the used car salesman? For me, he has always been the President. I know that is hard for you to swallow, its been a choking 6 plus years.
As usual, I will give you the last words. Otherwise, they drag on with no end in sight.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;439970]You're saying financial investments don't create jobs? That's nuts. [/QUOTE]Don't fabricate absolute statements and attribute them to me, please.
To your question, many financial investments don't create jobs.
Like when a billionaire parks his money in an established company's stock like Exxon, Walmart or Procter & Gamble, and collects basically "free money" on which he pays as little as 20% tax. Only a sucker thinks that allowing such a tax break for a billionaire is smart economic policy.
I listened to Fox News for ten minutes earlier this week. I thought the world was ending.
Fortunately, I changed the station and came back to reality.
[QUOTE=RevBS;440032][b]I stand corrected about Obama voting.[/b]
Obama was not elected to the Senate until 2004, and joined the Senate in 2005. On Oct. 2, 2002, as a Illinois state senator, he gave a speech opposing the war, and the votes for the war were cast later that month. But his opposition to the Iraq War has been consistent and well documented. Are you denying that? Ah, yes, but for the tree in the forest!
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the correction, I agree Obama made the speech against the war. But as for the consistency, well that's a little fuzzy. Why did it take him so long to get the troops out?
[QUOTE]President Obama surprised a few people during a news conference Thursday by claiming that the 2011 decision to withdraw all U.S. forces from Iraq, a politically popular move on the eve of an election year, was made entirely by his Iraqi counterpart. The implication ran counter to a number of claims that Obama has made in the past, most notably during a tight campaign season two years ago, when he suggested that it was his decision to leave Iraq and end an unpopular war.
[URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/06/19/president-obama-took-credit-in-2012-for-withdrawing-all-troops-from-iraq-today-he-said-something-different/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=RevBS;440032]"Community Organizer". Who came up with that, Donald Trump, the used car salesman? For me, he has always been the President. I know that is hard for you to swallow, its been a choking 6 plus years.
As usual, I will give you the last words. Otherwise, they drag on with no end in sight.[/QUOTE]Early career in Chicago.
After four years living in New York City, Obama moved to Chicago to work as a community organizer.
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_and_career_of_Barack_Obama[/URL]
Straight from the horse's mouth, Barack Obama often cites his time as a community organizer as one of the experiences that qualifies him to be POTUS. [I]"I can bring this country together,"... "I have a track record, starting from the days I moved to Chicago as a community organizer." [/I]
How's that bringing the country together thing working out?
I believe the United States is more divided now than anytime since the Civil War.
Are you sure you want to give me the last word, maybe you could sing us a song? Perhaps some Blues would be in order this time. What's that you say, you need more inspiration?
How about this: NBC News / Wall Street Journal poll "found a majority, 54 percent, no longer believes that Obama is able to lead the country and get the job done."..."I mean, essentially the public is saying your presidency is over," Chuck Todd of NBC said on "Morning Joe."
That's NBC Dude, that should inspire some Blues.
I listened to [STRIKE]Fox News[/STRIKE] MSNBC for ten minutes earlier this week. I thought the world was [STRIKE]ending[/STRIKE] in love with Obama.
Fortunately, I changed the station and came back to reality.
[QUOTE=Punter127;440040]Thanks for the correction, I agree Obama made the speech against the war. But as for the consistency, well that's a little fuzzy. Why did it take him so long to get the troops out?
Early career in Chicago.
After four years living in New York City, Obama moved to Chicago to work as a community organizer.
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_and_career_of_Barack_Obama[/URL]
Straight from the horse's mouth, Barack Obama often cites his time as a community organizer as one of the experiences that qualifies him to be POTUS. [I]"I can bring this country together,"... "I have a track record, starting from the days I moved to Chicago as a community organizer." [/I]
How's that bringing the country together thing working out?
I believe the United States is more divided now than anytime since the Civil War.
Are you sure you want to give me the last word, maybe you could sing us a song? Perhaps some Blues would be in order this time. What's that you say, you need more inspiration?
How about this: NBC News / Wall Street Journal poll "found a majority, 54 percent, no longer believes that Obama is able to lead the country and get the job done."..."I mean, essentially the public is saying your presidency is over," Chuck Todd of NBC said on "Morning Joe."
That's NBC Dude, that should inspire some Blues.[/QUOTE]Sorry about the last word, you will have it for sure this time. I will be in Palawan for a week.
If at the moment, you are out of your 6 years of "blues", I must issue a friendly warning. If you depend on polls for your fix, then it is like doing some fancy shopping. It gives a momentary thrill & satisfaction, then it is the same old, same old again.
I am only "blue" when I hear or read about natural disasters that are so overwhelming that you feel the need to do something good or lend a helping hand. Politics is a game that is rigged. It will take the USA more than a lifetime to right itself, not economically, but its ethical and moral behavior. There is no integrity in America for now.
[QUOTE=Esten;440034]Don't fabricate absolute statements and attribute them to me, please.
To your question, many financial investments don't create jobs.
Like when a billionaire parks his money in an established company's stock like Exxon, Walmart or Procter & Gamble, and collects basically "free money" on which he pays as little as 20% tax. Only a sucker thinks that allowing such a tax break for a billionaire is smart economic policy.[/QUOTE]Well, I guess you're making progress. Earlier you appeared to believe the top marginal tax rate on long term capital gains and qualified dividends was 15%. Now you're at 20%. The actual federal rate including the Obamacare tax on income is 23.8%. The federal + state rate is as high as 34.4%.
My bad about "financial investments. " I thought you were referring to certificates of deposit, debt instruments, financial derivatives, and shares of financial companies like Wells Fargo and Goldman Sachs. In your past posts, you've complained about trillions of dollars of cash held by companies and maintained that consumption is good and savings are evil. In addition to your problem with tax rates, I figured you were again failing to appreciate the role that savings play in the economy.
A billionaire that owns shares in Exxon indirectly pays corporate income taxes at a 42% rate. Plus additional property, production and sales taxes that may exceed the income tax. When he goes to sell his shares he pays a 43.4% or 23.8% federal rate, depending on how long he held them. And 23.8% federal tax on the dividends. When he dies the federal government gets 40% of what he owns.
But that's beside the point. Look at what billionaires primarily own. It's not portfolio investments like Exxon. Yes there are some like Warren Buffett who are asset shufflers. The majority of the fortunes though came from building businesses like Microsoft, Oracle, Walmart, Google, Amazon, Nike, Dell, etc. You want to take capital from them and others that use capital efficiently and do God knows what with it. Presumably spend it on consumption, that will indeed boost the economy in the short term, but at what cost to the future.
The strongest argument IMO is that stealing from people (which is equivalent to extortionate taxation, certainly at the level people like like Piketty support) is immoral. But that probably doesn't make sense to persons who believe the highest calling of mankind is to grow government. I guess I'm a sucker, because I don't equate theft with "smart economic policy."
[QUOTE=RevBS;440056] It will take the USA more than a lifetime to right itself, not economically, but its ethical and moral behavior. There is no integrity in America for now.[/QUOTE]I hardly think you're the guy to be speaking about "ethical and moral behavior ". And the lack of "integrity in America" starts with the current resident at 1400 Pennsylvania Avenue, and extends from there to as far away as Bangkok, and now even Palawan.
Have a nice trip.
[QUOTE=Punter127;440080]I hardly think you're the guy to be speaking about "ethical and moral behavior ". And the lack of "integrity in America" starts with the current resident at 1400 Pennsylvania Avenue, and extends from there to as far away as Bangkok, and now even Palawan.
Have a nice trip.[/QUOTE]Just to put this into context, what did you think of the lack of integrity (or otherwise) of the previous incumbent and his vp?
There's no doubt that Neil Cavuto is a conservative who consistently bashes the left but he is the only one on Fox and one of the few conservative talkers who is not afraid to take on his own party. Here he is excoriating Michelle Bachman for stupidity from the right while pointing out why nothing gets done in Washington. It's always the other guy's fault when it comes to republicans and democrats and as Cavuto points Rome's burning. That anyone can be loyal to these parties while they continue to point the finger at each other and screw the tax payers is baffling.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eswz4Fjrw20[/URL]
[B]"Integrity"...No such critter in captivity in Washington D.C, and those in the wild are on the endangered species list. [/B]
[QUOTE=SteveC;440111]Just to put this into context, what did you think of the lack of integrity (or otherwise) of the previous incumbent and his vp?[/QUOTE]If I had to pick I would call Bush the lesser of two evils, but I would add the caveat that the lesser of two evils is still evil. Take for example the Patriot Act and the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) which both Presidents supported and Obama even expanded NDAA. Those Acts in my opinion paved a path that led directly to the aggrandizement of unchecked power and the overreach that we see today in the Executive Branch, which is becoming an elected dictatorship.
I'm not going to get into comparisons between Bush and Obama because in the words Hillary Clinton [I]"what difference at this point does it make?"[/I] And surely you wouldn't try to justify the lack of integrity in one President by highlighting the lack of integrity of another. Or would you?
[b]Fox News is the most trusted TV News Source. [/B]
[QUOTE=RcCollins;440128]There's no doubt that Neil Cavuto is a conservative who consistently bashes the left but he is the only one on Fox and one of the few conservative talkers who is not afraid to take on his own party. Here he is excoriating Michelle Bachman for stupidity from the right while pointing out why nothing gets done in Washington. It's always the other guy's fault when it comes to republicans and democrats and as Cavuto points Rome's burning. That anyone can be loyal to these parties while they continue to point the finger at each other and screw the tax payers is baffling.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eswz4Fjrw20[/URL][/QUOTE]I know Neil Cavuto is a conservative, I didn't know he was a Republican. But perhaps that type of reporting is why a recent poll which sought the views of "all Americans" showed [b]Fox News as the most trusted TV News Source.[/B]
(MSNBC was the least trusted).
[URL]http://newsbusters.org/blogs/randy-hall/2014/06/10/poll-msnbc-least-trusted-tv-news-source-fox-news-most-trusted[/URL]
[QUOTE=Punter127;440143][B]"Integrity"...No such critter in captivity in Washington D.C, and those in the wild are on the endangered species list. [/B]
If I had to pick I would call Bush the lesser of two evils, but I would add the caveat that the lesser of two evils is still evil. Take for example the Patriot Act and the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) which both Presidents supported and Obama even expanded NDAA. Those Acts in my opinion paved a path that led directly to the aggrandizement of unchecked power and the overreach that we see today in the Executive Branch, which is becoming an elected dictatorship.
I'm not going to get into comparisons between Bush and Obama because in the words Hillary Clinton [I]"what difference at this point does it make?"[/I] And surely you wouldn't try to justify the lack of integrity in one President by highlighting the lack of integrity of another. Or would you?[/QUOTE]Thanks, as I've said before, I'm no fan of Obama. I just get a bit tired of the hypocrisy of many on the right who criticise Obama of things when previous Republican presidents did the same things but on a larger scale. E. g. Reagan 318 executive orders, Obama 168.
[QUOTE=Punter127;440144][b]Fox News is the most trusted TV News Source. [/B]
I know Neil Cavuto is a conservative, I didn't know he was a Republican. But perhaps that type of reporting is why a recent poll which sought the views of "all Americans" showed [b]Fox News as the most trusted TV News Source.[/B]
(MSNBC was the least trusted).
[URL]http://newsbusters.org/blogs/randy-hall/2014/06/10/poll-msnbc-least-trusted-tv-news-source-fox-news-most-trusted[/URL][/QUOTE]This type of reporting by Cavuto is not the norm so this would not be a good example to make your point as most of his show time is spend bashing the left. Both MSNBC and Fox are clearly the worst places for news reporting as they both are partisan networks with an agenda.
However, the bigger picture in the story was not about news networks but about Cavuto's point of how both political parties continue to screw the tax payers by always blaming the other side and not doing their jobs.
If the trend described in the attached link continues, it does not look good for Obamacare, aka Affordable Care Act, or the politicians who supported it.
[URL]http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-06-26/obamacare-s-prognosis-grows-dimmer?cmpid=yhoo[/URL]
Tres3.
[QUOTE=Jackson;440055]I listened to [STRIKE]Fox News[/STRIKE] MSNBC for ten minutes earlier this week. I thought the world was [STRIKE]ending[/STRIKE] in love with Obama.
Fortunately, I changed the station and came back to reality.[/QUOTE]That's not wise. You should watch it and pay attention. Bad things happened to the members of the bourgeoisie who did not take the pronouncements of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Chavez and their like seriously. These types have their own mouthpiece in the USA to pursue their pro-totalitarian, anti-free-speech agenda, and it's called MSNBC.
[URL]http://www.oann.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Tiny12;440156]That's not wise. You should watch it and pay attention. Bad things happened to the members of the bourgeoisie who did not take the pronouncements of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Chavez and their like seriously. These types have their own mouthpiece in the USA to pursue their pro-totalitarian, anti-free-speech agenda, and it's called MSNBC.[/QUOTE]
Jackson:
Tell Us what your opinions are:
You say you are "not a conservative. I am a member of the Libertarian Party, registered as an Independent", but again I say what are your views that make you not a Right Winger?
So tell us what are your views that you do not agree with the Republican Party Views?
We all know that the Republican party are racists.
All the Right Wingers are doing is making the United States of America is look Weak. They are the Anti-Americans. AKA Racists. Greed in Great. Traitors to the USA.
The rest of you are Independents, aka Liberalizations, and other anti-democratic parties what do you think that the Replication Party is doing wrong?.
Shouldn't all parties get together and make this country Strong?
Not look bad in the World?
[QUOTE=Tres3;440151]If the trend described in the attached link continues, it does not look good for Obamacare, aka Affordable Care Act, or the politicians who supported it.
[URL]http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-06-26/obamacare-s-prognosis-grows-dimmer?cmpid=yhoo[/URL][/QUOTE]Remember when the Affordable Care Act was going to kill jobs and seriously damage the country? Seems like a distant memory, as Republicans have all but stopped their regular bashing of the law. We now know that Republicans lied about the ACA and failed.
Now, their efforts to keep the fear alive can only resort to recycled speculation about how a shift to more unhealthy insureds will cause premiums to rise. Rather tame stuff that we've seen before, known about for a long time, and doesn't factor in a shift back to more healthy insureds as penalties rise.
This article was written by Lanhee Chen, who apparently is a research fellow at the Hoover Institution (conservative), was the policy director of Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential campaign (conservative), and references an article in WSJ (conservative). Notice the colorful language "Obamacare's Prognosis Grows Dimmer" , "A nightmare for Affordable Care Act supporters", and "fraught with peril in the months and years ahead. " If this is the best the right-wing spin machine can come up with now, you know the ACA is doing all right.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;440160]
We all know that the Republican party are racists.
All the Right Wingers are doing is making the United States of America is look Weak. They are the Anti-Americans. AKA Racists. Greed in Great. Traitors to the USA.
The rest of you are Independents, aka Liberalizations, and other anti-democratic parties what do you think that the Replication Party is doing wrong?. Shouldn't all parties get together and make this country Strong?[/QUOTE]What planet are you on? The USA is not a democracy. Instead it's ruled over by Barack Obama and Harry Reid. Obama pretty much runs the country the way he wants, ignoring legislation that's been signed into law. Reid has his back, and won't let anything pass Congress that conflicts with Obama's aims. Last year Senate Democrats proposed 676 amendments but were only allowed votes on seven. Republicans proposed 812 and got votes on 11. If Reid doesn't like a bill it never makes it to the floor. Yeah, the judicial branch has been swatting them down occasionally. But that could change now that Reid has decided he doesn't need 60 votes any longer to appoint judges. And Obama has decided he doesn't need a vote at all, he'll just figure out a way to get people appointed without Senate approval using wild legal theories.
You don't agree with the Democrat Party on civil liberties (e.g. prostitution, drug laws), foreign policy, or special interests and taxes. You should wise up and change parties. From your posts here you agree with about 80% of the Libertarian platform. But I guess you've lived in your California bubble too long. They've brainwashed you to believe Republicans are evil racists. And parties that actually believe in liberty and democracy are "anti-democratic. " And the Republicans are the only ones that refuse to get together and make this country strong. You've got it all backwards. It's like something out of Orwell's novel, 1984.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;440160]Jackson:
Tell Us what your opinions are:
You say you are "not a conservative. I am a member of the Libertarian Party, registered as an Independent", but again I say what are your views that make you not a Right Winger?
So tell us what are your views that you do not agree with the Republican Party Views?...[/QUOTE]WT, I've posted this a dozen times, but here it is again just for you.
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For the record, I am [u]NOT[/u] a Republican, and I am [u]NOT[/u] a conservative.
- I am [u]against[/u] the death penalty.
- I am [u]against[/u] [u]any[/u] government support of religious organizations.
- I am [u]for[/u] the legalization of recreational drugs.
- I am [u]for[/u] the legalization of commercial sex.
- I am [u]for[/u] a woman's right to choose.
- I am [u]for[/u] comprehensive sex education.
- I am [u]for[/u] a foreign guest worker program.
- I am [u]for[/u] a universal flat tax on [u]EVERYONE'S[/u] income.
- I am [u]for[/u] health [u]INSURANCE[/u] reform.
- I am [u]for[/u] health [u]JUSTICE[/u] reform.
I am a member of the Libertarian Party, registered as an Independent.
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You keep knocking the Demos, so tell us what you do not agree with, about the Republican Party?
[QUOTE=Jackson;440207]WT, I've posted this a dozen times, but here it is again just for you.
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For the record, I am [u]NOT[/u] a Republican, and I am [u]NOT[/u] a conservative.
- I am [u]against[/u] the death penalty.
- I am [u]against[/u] [u]any[/u] government support of religious organizations.
- I am [u]for[/u] the legalization of recreational drugs.
- I am [u]for[/u] the legalization of commercial sex.
- I am [u]for[/u] a woman's right to choose.
- I am [u]for[/u] comprehensive sex education.
- I am [u]for[/u] a foreign guest worker program.
- I am [u]for[/u] a universal flat tax on [u]EVERYONE'S[/u] income.
- I am [u]for[/u] health [u]INSURANCE[/u] reform.
- I am [u]for[/u] health [u]JUSTICE[/u] reform.
I am a member of the Libertarian Party, registered as an Independent.
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Hobby Lobby wins its case.
[URL]http://news.yahoo.com/justices-cant-employers-cover-contraception-141923713--finance.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;440213]You keep knocking the Demos, so tell us what you do not agree with, about the Republican Party?[/QUOTE]Good grief man, are you daft?
WT, before you post yet another request to know what I believe in that is contarary to the Republican Party's platform, please [U]READ[/U] my comments below.
[QUOTE=Jackson;440207]==============================================
For the record, I am [u]NOT[/u] a Republican, and I am [u]NOT[/u] a conservative.
- I am [u]against[/u] the death penalty.
- I am [u]against[/u] [u]any[/u] government support of religious organizations.
- I am [u]for[/u] the legalization of recreational drugs.
- I am [u]for[/u] the legalization of commercial sex.
- I am [u]for[/u] a woman's right to choose.
- I am [u]for[/u] comprehensive sex education.
- I am [u]for[/u] a foreign guest worker program.
- I am [u]for[/u] a universal flat tax on [u]EVERYONE'S[/u] income.
- I am [u]for[/u] health [u]INSURANCE[/u] reform.
- I am [u]for[/u] health [u]JUSTICE[/u] reform.
I am a member of the Libertarian Party, registered as an Independent.
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Just trying to make sure you did not change your mind.
Like the Republicans do when Obama agrees to something they wanted in the first place.
It looks we agree on almost everything, except the death penalty.
[QUOTE=Jackson;440216]Good grief man, are you daft?
WT, before you post yet another request to know what I believe in that is contrary to the Republican Party's platform, please [U]READ[/U] my comments below.[/QUOTE]
Remember how Republicans told us over and over how the Affordable Care Act was a big jobs killer.
[QUOTE]
The labor market continued to gain momentum and defy a mixed economy in June as employers added 288,000 jobs, the Labor Department said Thursday.
The unemployment rate fell to 6.1% vs. 6.3% in May. That's the lowest it's been since September 2008.
Economists had estimated that 215,000 jobs were added last month.
The economy has now gained at least 200,000 jobs a month for the past five months - the first such stretch since September 1999-January 2000.[/QUOTE]
Jobs blowout: Economy gains 288,000 in June
[URL]http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/07/03/june-jobs-report/12111319/[/URL]
The strategy is Cloward / Piven and the tactics are Alinsky. To re-make the Republic, he has to break it first. The quilombo at the border, and all points north is just another beta test. I guess as far as jobs go, quantity is better than quality. Got to keep as many as possible on the dependency plantation until he can complete his "Fundamental Transformation".
[URL]http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-03/june-full-time-jobs-plunge-over-half-million-part-time-jobs-surge-800k-most-1993[/URL]
[QUOTE=Esten;440249]Remember how Republicans told us over and over how the Affordable Care Act was a big jobs killer.
Jobs blowout: Economy gains 288,000 in June
[URL]http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/07/03/june-jobs-report/12111319/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Esten;440249]Remember how Republicans told us over and over how the Affordable Care Act was a big jobs killer.[/QUOTE]Funny how we didn't hear a fucking peep from you when this news was released:
[B]U.S. GDP Dropped 2.9% In The First Quarter 2014[/B]
[URL]http://www.forbes.com/sites/samanthasharf/2014/06/25/u-s-gdp-dropped-2-9-in-the-first-quarter-2014-sharply-lower-from-second-estimate/[/URL]
"[I]On Wednesday, the Bureau of Economic Analysis released its third and final estimate of real gross domestic product for the first three months of 2014. The release showed output in the U.S. declining at an annual rate of 2.9%. This is relative to fourth quarter 2013, when real GDP grew 2.6%.[/I]"
[B]U.S. Economy Shrank in First Quarter by Most in Five Years[/B]
[URL]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-25/economy-in-u-s-shrank-in-first-quarter-by-most-in-five-years.html[/URL]
"[I]Gross domestic product fell at a 2.9 percent annualized rate, more than forecast and the worst reading since the same three months in 2009, after a previously reported 1 percent drop, the Commerce Department said today in Washington. It marked the biggest downward revision from the agencys second GDP estimate since records began in 1976. The revision reflected a slowdown in health care spending.[/I]"
[b][size=+2]Anyway, the most important thing is that we're not talking about Obama's monumental incompentence.[/size][/b]
Thanks,
Jax.
[QUOTE=Jackson;440255]Funny how we didn't hear a fucking peep from you when this news was released:
[B]U.S. GDP Dropped 2.9% In The First Quarter 2014[/B]
[URL]http://www.forbes.com/sites/samanthasharf/2014/06/25/u-s-gdp-dropped-2-9-in-the-first-quarter-2014-sharply-lower-from-second-estimate/[/URL]
"[I]On Wednesday, the Bureau of Economic Analysis released its third and final estimate of real gross domestic product for the first three months of 2014. The release showed output in the U.S. declining at an annual rate of 2.9%. This is relative to fourth quarter 2013, when real GDP grew 2.6%.[/I]"
[B]U.S. Economy Shrank in First Quarter by Most in Five Years[/B]
[URL]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-25/economy-in-u-s-shrank-in-first-quarter-by-most-in-five-years.html[/URL]
"[I]Gross domestic product fell at a 2.9 percent annualized rate, more than forecast and the worst reading since the same three months in 2009, after a previously reported 1 percent drop, the Commerce Department said today in Washington. It marked the biggest downward revision from the agencys second GDP estimate since records began in 1976. The revision reflected a slowdown in health care spending.[/I]"
[b]Anyway, the most important thing is that we're not talking about Obama's monumental incompentence.[/b]
Thanks,
Jax.[/QUOTE]These statistics are a complete misnomer and totally misleading as the economic "freeze" was literally caused by the worst period of extended inclement winter weather in many, many decades that afflicted the entire eastern half of the United States. Just more anti-Obama BULLSHIT from Jackson and his fascist fanboys. BTW in case you couldn't stop foaming at the mouth enough to pay attention, the DJIA closed at another all time record high of over 17,000 today; the day Obama was inaugurated the DJIA closed at 7,949. Personally I think the stock market is extremely overvalued as a result of nonexistent interest rate yields, nevertheless the consensus disagrees with me as the market has seen 110%+ returns under Obama's watch.
[QUOTE=ElAlamoPalermo;440256]These statistics are a complete misnomer and totally misleading as the economic "freeze" was literally caused by the worst period of extended inclement winter weather in many, many decades that afflicted the entire eastern half of the United States. Just more anti-Obama BULLSHIT from Jackson and his fascist fanboys. BTW in case you couldn't stop foaming at the mouth enough to pay attention, the DJIA closed at another all time record high of over 17,000 today; the day Obama was inaugurated the DJIA closed at 7,949. Personally I think the stock market is extremely overvalued as a result of nonexistent interest rate yields, nevertheless the consensus disagrees with me as the market has seen 110%+ returns under Obama's watch.[/QUOTE]Once again I ask you for your definition of fascist.
Don B.