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With reference to Leo's remark and my own preparations for a lengthy stay, I'd appreciate some info on the subject as well. Personally I was thinking of taking a few golden chains and sell a piece every other day or so.
Also I like to add thanks to DownBA and Andres. For Saint I have a question, since he seems eager to move to BA. Is there any business to be conducted under the present circumstances?
Hey Toosh--
I wish to Christ I was going to MDP myself.
You will have a fucking blast (although be warned--this time of year down there will be quite windy).
But as long as that hobby bar (100 meters) near the Sheraton is open--then you will been fine.
Here's some more info on MDP, so that you feel comfy.
The airport is very small. I would say that it is a good 15 minute ride to the Hotel Manatiales by taxi.
The Manantiales is about a three minute cab ride into the commerical center of Mar Del Plata. If you want to walk, go along the ocean and watch the fucking waves batter the coast. Very Dramatic.
There is a main street in the commercial center of MDP which is closed to traffic. This street has hundreds of large clothes stores, restaurants, banks, etc. I dont suggest you eat on this street because its essentially just fast food. But this is ground zero of MDP, non-hobby action. This neighborhood is where you will find yourself buying international newspapers, eating, shopping, etc.
Walk around the commercial area on any of the ajoining streets and youll see hundreds (I mean fucking hundreds) of restaurants, internet cafes, rests. and small grocery stores. EXTREMELY SAFE.
WARNING (I just remembered) there is a neon sign of a cocktail glass (it is a hobby bar in the commerical district of MDP.) DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME HERE, THIS JOINT IS A VERITABLE DOG POUND. The ladies are ragged hags, and should be pensioned off to a whorehouse for the aged.
Stick with the joint I keep touting (whatever the fuck its called!Malojos or Majalocos.) There are some young hotties in this establishment who will truly take care of you. I found these girls (in retrospect) to be much more friendly then the gals in BA. (Less professional in a sense, maybe its the resort like setting that takes the edge off them).
Here's the scoop on the bar. You enter for free but are compelled to buy yourself one drink. To take a gal out it will require that you buy here 2 exit drinks (I think this amounted to around 30 pesos total) and then the girl will cost you 100 pesos. The most I paid was 150 pesos. BE ON THE LOOK OUT FOR A BLOND BRASILIAN CHICK WITH 36 DD FAKE TITS and a GREAT ASS AND FACE. She will service you as though the world is coming to an end. She also begged me to fuck her in the ass. Moreover, this gals like you to watch them piss in the bidet.
During the day, if you want to dial up some service from the local newspaper, go right ahead. But you will need to understand that it is an utter roll of the dice...A gambit. But and this is a big BUT, I can attest to the fact that the possibility exists to score a true champion. Just keep saying YO QUIERO UNA CHICA MUY JOVEN Y MUY BONITA! The lady on the phone will say "of course, no problem, we have the perfect girl for you." But its here where you have to show your mettle, respond by calling her a liar "TU ERES MENTIROSA. Its essential that you call the lady a liar so that she knows you mean business. (Ha, ha).
MY SUGGESTION FOR A TWO DAY STAY IS TO AVOID NEWSPAPER ACTION and save your strenght for the hobby bar near the Sheraton.
One last word on the newspaper action in all Argentina. If I had to say a positive word about it---its dirt fucking cheap (there are actually some ads for 15 peso blow jobs: "buscal") and whats really great is that you can flat out ask on the phone if the girl permits anal--as if you were ordering a pizza but first wanted to make sure they had anchovies.
Have a blast!!!
leo,
i got cash when ever iwanted from the atm's
not a problem at all
was there july 4th weekend
starfe
amsterdammed...you have a slim to none chance of selling gold chains in BA...but have a good chance of being robbed if u r silly enough to hold them out to a perspective buyer...
also, Leo, it was my experience that sat,sun and monday till noon almost every cash machine, ATM, that I went to was empty...on 2 weekens I had to go to 8-10 machines untill I got cash...do not put yourself in the position to need cash from an atm on sat sun and mon till noon...this was my experience in the recolletta area from june 5 through the 26th.
That's what I love about this board. It's always good for a few good laughs in addition to helpful information. No disrespect Amsterdamned but I really got a good laugh when I read your comment about selling some gold chains. (I hope you were kidding). People have to realize that the vast majority of people in Buenos Aires are poor. Many can't even buy food... let alone gold chains. Yes, there are people there that are wealthy but they are like the wealthy people here in the USA. They go to the Cartier store or similar type jewelry store in Recoleta for their wears most likely. I agree with Yabba. You'll have more of a chance of getting robbed IMHO.
As to your question about me being eager to move there. YES. I'd love to live in BA someday (at least part of the year). Reality has set in since my trip. It's more of a 5 year plan now. You must be totally fluent in Spanish if you're going to have any kind of business there. That's what I'm doing now. Learning as much Spanish as I can. I can think of a few businesses that might survive down there but it's a tough place right now and probably will be for a while. I found this site below that had some pretty good info on starting a business there. Good luck.
http://www.invertir.com/default2.htm
Hi!
A short experience.
On Tuesday, after 10 days going out every single night, I started to feel tired. Then, I decided to do a quickie in downtown and leave the night for light non-pro action.
I wanted to try Mara (a masseuse in downtown: Cordoba Av. and Esmeralda St., Phone 4515-0213), who I couldn't try a week ago. By 5:30 PM, she was available, so I took the 30 minutes session (p40). The girls was really hot: Nice legs, nice bobs, slim body, Paraguayan accent (I guess that all these girls in this MP are from Paraguay). She started with a nice massage with oil, rubbing my back, butts, arms, legs and sensitive parts. After 15 minutes massage, she asked me p10 for getting naked, p30 for naked and CBJ and p50 for FS (but she had the monthly period, so she couldn't do that). I chose the p30. Nice BJ, but since covered, no as great as a BBBJ. I touched her body and felt really smooth and firm at the same time... "Youth, divine treasure"...
One comment about the place: It's clean, but it's very small and the rooms are cabinets made of cardboard, so you can hear everything from other rooms and viceversa. Also, there are only couchs and massage tables, so you cannot have comfortable action as in a hotel.
An average experience.
Hope to report soon about Recoleta.
Andres
Larry,
Thanks for the info. Its guys like you, Saint, Otto, Yabba, Starfe, Umgman and others who make planning for this much better than the hit or miss it would otherwise be.
You can rest assured I will hunt down that Brasilian chic. She doesn't realize it yet but she is having a date with a jackhammer in heat.
I loved your comments about the bidet. As Dorothy would say, " We're not in Kansas anymore".
The newspapers and the call up services are plan B if the place near the Sheraton doesn't pan out or is closed. If calling the lady on the phone a liar doesn't get the job done maybe I'll just mosey on down there and bit#! slap her. She'll no doubt love this gringos "machismo" and have her best girl do me right on the spot at ridiculous prices. Hehehehehe.
Seriously, Larry, there is one thing that does concern me and that is something you maybe able to shed some light on. What do you know about the safety of the airlines down there? How did you get to MDP? Would you have any concerns over using one of them? I would appreciate your comments.
Thanks,
Toosh
some feedback on a new business venture PLEASE:
i am having a trenchcoat designed to hold 75 fake gold rolex watches. prices at $125 a piece. i read the report of someone who wants to sell gold chains. i feel its possible to hang outside the better hotels and develop a fairly healthy business if you stay the course. i have seen this done with great success in nyc all the time. i am producing business cards right now, which read
"GOING OUT OF BUISNESS" ( in spanish ).
if there are any 3 card hobbiest out there (find the ace of spades)
we can set up a small KIOSK area. who says the girls are the only ones who can make a little cash. i have never sold jewelry in my life but i will start by learning how these kiosk do it at the malls here in the u.s..
if any other would like to join me in this very lucrative business, please post your ideas and lets go down there and really show them AMERICAN CAPITALISM AT WORK. i have also toyed with the idea of going down with some GINZU knife sets. i already have a trenchcoat designed to carry 62 PO-PEEL POCKET FISHERMAN'S.
I WOULD RENT THIS ONE TO ANY SERIOUS SALESMAN
STARFE
News Flash From Buenos Aires:
Hey, GREAT DEALS ON ROLEX WATCHES! I bought a genuine, certified Rolex from a fellow selling outside the Etoile Hotel last night, it was only 150 pesos, it came with a Genuine Certificate of Authenticity signed by Pierre Marchand, President of Rolex International himself!
Also, there were some fine deals to be had on gold chains, my street salesman's inventory was all nicely displayed in the inner lining of his overcoat (the small label said "Starfe Fashions, Dallas").
Unfortunately, I had to save my last two 20 peso notes for use at Blacks, one of them for the entrance fee and the other for the girl for the overnighter. She really appreciated the pack of Marlboros I gave to her for the tip!
Went to the ATM this morning to draw out an extra 5 pesos to tip the mechanic at Jorge Newberry Airport before my flight to Salta today, the mechanic, he promised to use only OEM replacement chewing gum for the engine gaskets, gosh I feel much better flying when I tip the ground crew.....
Will report on the action on board the Train to the Clouds in Salta Province, I hear tell there are Indian girls who will service you for 5 pesos at the railway sidings, an extra 2 pesos if you would fancy a throw with the llama too.....
-Tio Otto de Buenos Aires
OK, it is a bit off topic...
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Woo Hoo! I'm headed back to Buenos Aires unexpectedly next month for Labor Day weekend. If anyone else is headed to my favorite city, email me at saintofba@hotmail.com.
I'll probably be staying at Art Suites or Design Suites. Actually Mari from www.argentinago.com has been wheeling and dealing for me with both places. Both places are offering rates lower than their websites with her. I'll see what the final tab is and post it.
I'm not sure if I can offer any more information than last time but I'll sure try. Good luck amigos.
Saint
As of July of 2002
Thanks to all who posted good info for your generosity.
Black: a good, fun bar with pretty girls and entertaining shows. The most expensive place in Buenos Aires for the hobby. It´s the only place where I was quoted 100 US dollars for a two hour session. Lots of pretty girls. There can be some pretty hardcore pros, though nowhere near US standards. Drinks are 20 pesos for hombres and 40 to 50 for chicas. Stop by, have a drink, take out a girl. Use it as your yardstick. (Paid for Ad. Brought to you by the Black Consortium.)
Playwoman: In Recoleta, ask any taxi driver. The girls are pretty and their prices can go from 200 to 250 depending on how much they like you. A better value hook up joint than Black.
Sodoma: I had a bad experience at this clip joint. If someone else fared better I congratulate you.
The Suipacha bars: Catto, Hook and Ness. Cruise them quickly in search of your honey, you´ll know her by her hourglass figure and the smile on her face . Prices are cheaper (150 to 200) and the overall quality lower, but there are gems to be found. Good for a change of pace.
Cutty Sark (Morgan merged with this one.) and "Ladies, Ladies" (formerly Bridge Fashion Bar): I walked in, I drank, I left ... alone. Asking price, 150.
Cafe Orleans: I ordered a coffee. I talked to a lady in her thirties with a good haircut and Austin Powers´ teeth. I finished my coffee and left ... alone. She was asking for 200 pesos. The cafe in front of this one was cleaner and empty of chicas.
New Shampoo: reopened a week ago and it shows. I will hold off judgment on this joint. Better to wait a couple of months on this one unless you don´t mind being a pioneer.
My experience is that it is best to go with the vibe. If the vibe is bad, walk away from the chica. If the vibe is great, get her out of the bar as quickly as possible. Keep a happy attitude and treat them like girlfriends, not like you own them for the night. You´ll be better off.
continuing the review
Salome-- The place is packed with locals, some of which have a grope-for-free attitude. Took out a lovely lady for 100 pesos, gave her a genorous tip. Looks 7. Attitude 8. Not a super hot brasilera. She was a sweet argentina.
People:
When traveling to Argentina, keep in mind that we, los argentinos, used to overprice to everyone who doesn't speak spanish (and even if you speak spanish can fall into this trap).
You can get very beautiful girls for less money than 100 u$s the 2 hours. If you can, make friends with a local and let him make the arragements, for better quality and less money...and invite him a drink, if you please :)
Just in case, there is my adress again:
[url]condicionadas@yahoo.com[/url]
I could use a free whiskey once in a while! :)
Saludos a todos!
Mariscal
Andres,
LA Larry,
and DownBA
Thank you for taking the time to respond to my questions. Sorry, I wasn?t able to respond sooner (visiting relatives). And while I'm at it, may I commend the posters of the Argentine board. This board is extremely informative, has a sense of camaraderie among its posters and has always maintained a sense of dignity and decorum. Thank you all for your perspectives and for expanding mine regarding this great place to visit.
The flight to Mar del Plata sounds like the way to go. Should one buy the flight from here in the States or in BA. I guess the concierge could help get this accomplished? Toosch, how did you get your flight to Mar del Plata as you have not departed yet? Can?t wait to read your upcoming reports on MDP!
Is the heat and humidity of January/February similar to that of the Caribbean? Or are we talking more like Taiwan or New York? Hey, anyone know if there is much of a Mardi Gras in BA or MDP? I can't remember anyone discussing that on this board.
LA Larry, I did try the Manantailes' web site but the English portion was quite limited. Will have to return and go through it page by page in English using Babel fish over the weekend.
DownBA, thanks. I don't plan on taking a remis to MDP. I simply saw it mentioned in the University town of La Plata's thread. I thought that LA Larry had used the term in his exploration of La Plata and I was curious...
I'm still curious as to what attire to bring? I understand it will be warm down there, but I seem to remember the archives recommending a coat and slacks in Blacks. Is this still suggested? How about most of the other bars? What attire do most Argentine men wear to the restaurants mentioned?
Again, thanks for everyone?s input!
Saint,
I believe I read that you were considering traveling to Brazil. FYI- I don?t? believe I?ve read anything about this on the Brazil board, so here?s a slightly out of date heads up. The State Department?s travel advisory (10/09/01) warns of Mickey Fin Girls in Sao Paulo ([url]http://travel.state.gov/brazil.html[/url]). Also if anyone wants read up on a possible travel local, the CIA?s website has a World Fact Book that gives great background on a county ([url]http://www.cia.gov/[/url]).