Black

[QUOTE=Moore]You forgot to mention the "mosquitoes" at Black, Hunt99. One particular little chica (that did not attract me at all) kept coming over and shaking her ass in my face, which was marginally funny the first time, but rather annoying the tenth time. Like a mosquito buzzing in your ear.

I estimate there were 70? Chicas in Black that night, jam-packed in with more goofy just-off-the-plane gringos (hundreds? Than I knew existed in all of Argentina. Out of 70 chicas, I spotted one (1) that was OK, though silicon is always a big turnoff. I have an inflatable doll at home anyway. Other observations about the Black lineup - several "girls" into their 30s, a few apparently 40+, lots of aboriginies, and lots of plastic / makeup / bones. Most looked like rough streetwalker prostitutes wearing decent clothes. "Although the monkey is dressed in silk, it's still a monkey".

P30/ beer for the privilege of sitting (or standing) in the almighty Black. I didn't even approach a single girl and the overcrowding sucked. But a name is a name and Black is Black. It's right across the street from Alvear Hotel and taxis from all over the city receive commissions for bringing clueless gringo tourists there. Talk about a tourist trap.

Luckily I nabbed a seat at the bar after having to stand for a while. As Hunt99 said, it was a gawking scene – problem is I was sitting at the bar and the girls were on the other side of the narrow bar area gawking at me and the other customers, as if WE were on display! That's not the way it works – the girls should be at the bar / stage and I should sit at my table gawking at them. They shouldn't bother me and if I raise a finger they come to my table. That's they way it works in my boliches anyway.

There are so many boliches in this town with 15-20 girls and a relaxed, not crowded atmosphere where you can take a seat, drink some beers, and look at the girls sitting at the bar. Most importantly, 3 or 4 out of 20 are sometimes pretty / sexy instead of 1 in 70, and your evening has a "happy ending" (you bust a big nut on a hot chica or two) I had a happy ending later that night at Madonna.

I hadn't been to Black in over 2 years, no plans to return. I understand that that Thursday may have been an exceptionally crowded night, but by the same token I saw a huge sample of Black girls, which were nothing to write home about, as if I didn't already know that. Going there is like going to an "upscale" restaurant with a prestigious name and paying $30 for a stale Big Mac (served on a silver platter) when you can go to various "average" restaurants and pay $10 for a good fresh filet mignon and enjoy yourself while reviewing the menu.[/QUOTE]After discussing and comparing in person, I came to the conclusion that Moore's tastes vary widely from my own. "There is no accounting for taste." I simply don't agree with his judgment that so many of the girls in Black are ugly or old. He pronounced one girl whom I "know" from there quite well as being ugly and on the high side of 40. She's 28 and quite attractive. How do I know her age? First of all, I've done 40 year olds. She doesn't have a 40 year old's body. Secondly, she told me she's 23. Chicas always drop 5 years from their age, it is a fixed rule.

For my own part, I thought some of the girls Moore especially liked were not really my type. So, as in all things in life, [i]caveat monger[/i]. The dick you please must be your own.

Now for what he got right: Yes, it was as crowded as hell when we visited, a real turnoff. Yes, some flaquita came waltzing by about a half dozen times shaking her bony ass at us. Yes, I saw some chicks I would call ugly; certainly not a majority or a plurality. However, I see ugly chicks in every boliche. Drinks were actually 35, not 30. And Moore paid, so my real cost was ZERO!:) But IIRC they were 25 in Madonna, and are probably about the same no matter where you go, so there are no great discounts anywhere that's disreputable.

Anyway, my most recent visit here was not great, but then again, that's true of most places on any given night. A lot of the fun consists solely of checking out the scene. I do agree with Moore that Madonna is a good destination, depending of course on your tastes and preferences.

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]600 P doesnt mean the same to Mpexy as it may to me. Plus you have the added benifit of protection from AIDS (inside joke)[/QUOTE]Heh, I caught that brutha!

I made my first trip to Black last night. Admittance and drink prices as reported here previously. A pretty impressive place I would say. The pole dancers were luscious. It was chock full of both chicas and guys. As regards the debate on the board about quality, my impression is that there were more 7's and 8's than I have seen elsewhere, with some bordering on higher. There were also a number of run of the mill chicas, who I thought looked out of place. I do agree that if you took some of the chicas out of this place and put them in a "regular club" they would probably drop a tad in attractiveness. The surroundings tend to bolster the looks department. I had a couple of beers and drifted home. There were many chicas imminently fuckable, and I will return after having a talk with my wallet and bag one of them.

Dog

Went here with my English only speaking buddy and a Porteno on a Wednesday. It was packed with all types. I ended up taking over the conversation for my Porteno buddy with 2 chicas who he was trying to get a handle on culo availability. One was one wasn't. We started talking a both of them and me. The cutie, wanted no less than $US200, didn't do culo, and left with a very nice smile to try elsewhere. The 3-4 said sure to 250P and culo all night if you want. Still couldn't bring myself to it.

My buddy hooked up talking to a very intelligent engish speaker who had lived in the US, now in Palermo Hollywood, and likes the nice things money from Black can buy. I said we had just been to dinner in Palermo, she asked where, and I said 'Casa Cruz', which she said is one of her favorite restraurants. Let me say, it is one expensive place, but nice.

Still, at 150p to sit and talk for an hour, she would rather leave to get the gringo hopeful at $US300.

MAG

It is Tuesday. Earlier, Jackson came to the apt. and invited me for dinner. When he asked my night time plan, I told him that tonight is designated for my annual assult on Black. Jackson said that he will join me also.

After dinner, Jackson and I went to Black around midnight. There were lots of chicas that I have not seen during my August visit. Jackson and I both agreed that about 70% of the chicas are very ordinary. However, there were quite a few attracative ones also.

I look for certain qualities in a chica, because of my inclination to do TLN. So very soon, I concentrated on a chica who look to me very lovely and genuine. I knew it was too early to do any negotiations. However, I wanted to learn a little bit more about her and invited her over.

She and couple of her friends are visiting from Uruguay and living in congresso area. Perfect candidate for a TLN. She was all game, except the price I offered. I told her to think it over. It is too early, if she did not find anybody then we can negotiate further.

Meanwhile, I spotted a real hottie. She was talking to couple of the girls in the back, and that's why I never saw her earlier. She is the prototype of a classic "Black" girl. Tall, blond, thin, white skin with a gorgous figure. These are the girls demand and get 200 USD easily. I try to stay away from them, normally. But something happened tonight! We kept on looking at each other with deep graze, and she was not turning her face. There is some possiblity after all! But I have so many demands, it is hard to get excited at this point. A guy courted her for some time and it looked like the deal fizzled. Meanwhile, at every opportunity, she was looking at me!

Jackson said goodbye around 2 AM. We both talked to Danny (the floor manager) for a while, before he left. Jackson left me with a friend of his, Rich.

It is past 2 AM and I got to be very active, to have any real chance to close any deal. Rich boosted my ego by saying that he will watch the "master" in action to-night. Before that, I was giving him some pointers about the art of negotiations (with chicas) and impact of proper timing.

I have now left with two choices, the girl from Uruguay, who just came and sat infront of me to draw my attention and the "hottie". I concentrated on the hottie! She was about 5 ft from me on the other side of the table. I did not take my eyes off her for a second and she also was intensely started looking at me. We are looking through the dancer's legs, between the beer glass, etc. It was a classic cat and mouse game which made me very excited. Finally, her friend made a hand gesture to me which literally said " when are you going to invite her over?". It was around 2:30 AM and I finally called her over.

She is Karen, 21 yr. Old, a true beauty. Her first word was that why was I looking at her for so long. I countered "why did you?". There are times you feel that things may go well and it was one of those times. Normally, I do not expect that these kind of girls will go out with me for a TLN with the money I offer them. But the only reason, I got her, because she is very new at Black. Only working for three weeks and still did not grasp the "Black" technics yet. Finally, I laid down the rules of the game, She asked for 400 P for 2 hours, I said no way! I offered her 300 Peso for TLN. She budged, went back, came back again, then said she can stay for 3 hours. At this point I knew, she is toast. I agreed knowing that this will definitely turn into a TLN. However, there was a final obstacle, which I could not have dreamt about. She never went to an apartment, she only goes to hotel. I could not believe what's happening. Finally, I took her to Danny. Danny told her that I am one of their valued clients and there is no problem in going to the apartment with me. However, final decision is still hers and they can not force her to go with me to the apartment. At this point, Karen felt very embarrassed and hid her face behind me. I had to go through the obligatory drink (60 P) and we were on our way to my apt. Rich monitored the whole thing and congratulated me on my accomplishent of the night.

Once she entered the apt., all her fears disappeared. And once she got involved with me, this girl turned into an angel. I asked her whether she had any russian lineage. She had some distinct russian look on her face, which she inherited from her russian grandmother. An excusite beauty, I just could not take my eyes off her.

After she came back from shower, another surprise! What a body! Tall curvy figure, breast are of perfect size with pink erect nipple. A shaved pussy with a supersize clit. BBJ (light), (prefers CBJ), DFK, true GFE, DATY, all were on the menu.

The biggest surprise of all that this kid loves "cola". This is the first time I started my penetration and finished my act in a cola. A night to remember! We finished around 5:30 AM. She washed up, came back to bed, went under cover quickly and held me tight and fell asleep. My well calculated bet for a TLN.

It is past 12:30 PM, and she does not want to get up. Miss Candela is coming to see me around 3 PM. I had to force her to leave by 1 PM, with a promise to see her on Sunday, my final night at BsAs. Great kid!

Bandy

This was my third night in Black this trip. In this trip, I found, that the girls in Black are much more desirable than their counterparts in Madahos. And there are many to choose from.

There were two girls I was interested, but soon discovered that they were out of my price range. I could still take them for a short time, but I was primarily interested in TLN.

The girl from Urugauay (from Tuesday night) was angry with me because I took Karen instead of her. She was full of attitude and I ditched her shortly.

There were plenty of prospects and soon I got what I wanted. She is Jessica, 24 yr old, never married, no children and lives alone. Perfect for a TLN. A classic Italian beauty, white skin, black hair. And get this, tonight is her first day of work in Black. A fresh face in the business. The girl even did not know what drink to order when the waitress came to take the order. When I offered her 300 P for TLN, she meekly protested saying that the figure seems kind of low for Black. I countered saying that tonight is her first night and she is kind of an "apprentice" on the job. And we all get paid low during our training period. I told her that she can raise her fee from next week, when I am gone. I think my Castelleno, made her very comfortable and soon we were on our way to the apt.

The balcony of the apt. served a great backdrop for a romantic interlude. We were sipping wine and chatting away with stories from each other's past. Things could not be better.

The main act was kind of a downer for me, because of the fake breasts. I can not take fake breasts. Otherwise, everything else was great. She was a sex crazed woman. May be having it after two months. She almost killed me. One of the tightest boxes, I ever encountered! She was multi-orgasmic and about two hours later, finally I finished.

She left around noon. This trip Black was the greatest surprise for me. It came thru for me over and over again. It was the best bang for "my" money!

Bandy

Next time I am in buenos aires I will work my budget out so I can take girls from Blacks every night.

I find that the girls have the most class in Blacks. I like the fact that many of them know how to dress well. Most of the girls in the other cabarets are so fucking gaudy.

The knockouts provide very professional if a bit uninspired service. Still, this is highly preferable to the crapshoot that you get in somewhere like Medahos or Solid Gold. You pay for what you get.

Many girls in Madahos just get on my nerves. Many seem to be on coke. Hot girls in Blacks I talked to are making more money than me. I like this fact. In a lot of other places I find it to be true that you can take the girl out of the provincia but not the provincia out of the girl. I'm tired of dealing with the trash.

200usd is a small price to pay for some of these girls that would easily run 1000usd in nyc per hour.

They really should boot 10 or 12 of the lower girls out and just let the hot ones work only. The dancers put me into a trance.

Once you go Blacks you never go back.

US$1000 for an hour? And I thought Black was expensive.

I've been to Black one time, and spent most of the time translating for an estadounidense and the least attractive woman in the place, maybe a 5 or a 6. After about 30 minutes of flirtation, she asked him for US$225 for an hour, and 5 seconds later he said yes and they were on their way. The guy had wandered over from the Alvear Palace. His group of hunters was spending one night in Buenos Aires before heading to the provinces to kill some birds. I figured Black's take-out business was mostly from that type of client, just in town for a few days with money to burn or wealthy locals. But in a moment of weakness I could definitely see myself dropping $200 on a couple of the stunners I saw there that evening.

200 bucks? The most I've spent in Black is about half that (plus cab fare and of course, the dreaded chica drink). While it's not terrible, remember to use your large head and not your small one when negotiating. Remember that as the night gets later, the number of customers tends to go down, as do the bottom line prices. Judd's spot-on description of a negotiating session at Madaho's could be just as easily employed at Black:

[quote=Judd]We started talking price and I got the 200us bullshit. I didn't fuck around and said 200 pesos. She countered with 300pesos minimum. At that point, I thought there would be a middle ground so I took her to the back of the club to get her heated up. We started making out and she was grabbing my Johnson. I knew I could get her for 250p so I went ahead and ordered her a drink 65p. We kissed and grouped one another for about 20 minutes whe she asked me if I wanted to go. I said I can't afford 300, but how bout 250. She agreed and we were off. It was a small win for me.
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And remember not to get too shitfaced drunk, also. Not only does it lead to whiskey dick, it also causes you to pay higher prices because your negotiating skill and judgment are impaired. ;)

[QUOTE=Hunt99]And remember not to get too shitfaced drunk, also. Not only does it lead to whiskey dick, it also causes you to pay higher prices because your negotiating skill and judgment are impaired.[/QUOTE]This impairment caused me to walk into Black a few months ago, which was one of the biggest mistakes of 2006. Dumb and dumber.

Well, I won at the casino, so I had an excuse. In fact I was just about to turn my initial 100 peso investment into 500 pesos. Dealer has a ten. I get 11, double down and draw a ten, I'm sitting pretty. We get down to the last guy at the table, who has a king and a two.

Do I have to tell anybody who got the Ace that was next in the shoe? I wanted to choke the guy to death, but earlier I saw somebody stand with a pair of 8s, never mind dealer 7. Why get worked up over idiots?

Nevertheless I left the casino rich and went to Black. I've never been there before because in my experience high price chicas don't really do it for me.

Hey Chica D! "The knockouts provide very professional if a bit uninspired service." What does that mean? What do you want?

If it's eye candy you want, Black has a lot of it, especially the dancers. But for every really hot babe there were two ordinary ones. I kind of was expecting more.

I want inspired service! But looking around the place I didn't see anybody who could possibly be worth these prices everybody quotes. I would have paid 400 pesos for the dancer.

Bottom line on Black for me is, definitely a nice place to go have a beer and hang out, but I don't like the the risk / reward factor for a chica investment.

So I decided to go to Madahos, but the taxi driver asked me if I had ever been to Shampoo. I hadn't so that's where I went next. (To be continued on the Shampoo thread)

By the way, it was Saturday night, around 1:00 am that I was there. Maybe 30 chicas, many guys. And one other thing: the guys at the door told me that it was not obligatory to buy the chica a drink if you wanted to leave with her.

A taxi from Black to Shampoo, did he get into 2nd gear?

A creative driver might do a detour once around the obelisco, just to adjust the fare on the meter a little with his expectations.

Look, I got the cab because I was going to Madahos!

That area between Shampoo and Madahos is very dangerous. Good move!:D