American Politics during the Bush Presidency

[QUOTE=Norman Stormin]King George Walker Bush should:

1. NUKE EM!

2. NUKE EM!

No more problems![/QUOTE]A couple of Democrat big-wigs advocated pretty much this solution for North Korea in an op-ed in today's Washington Post. John Kerry has been advocating a pre-emptive attack on Iran, as well.

Cognitive dissonance from the "cut and run" party.

Funny how they're eager to get involved in wars, but genetically don't have the balls to finish the job when the going might get a little tough. At least not since Harry Truman, the best Democrat president ever.

Bush loving supporter of family values (whatever that is) gets caught with illegal Viagra after a trip to the Dominican Republic. I wonder what he was doing there. Lecturing 20-year-old Dominicanas on the benefit of corporate tax giveaways?

Link to AP story.

[url]http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060627/D8IGA3VO0.html?PG=home&SEC=news[/url]

So Rush Limbaugh is a monger.

That doesn't do much for our image. He's a piece of shit regardless of his politics and a hypocrite before this story.

Even odds, do you think he was sessioning with girls or boys in the Dominican Republic?

On the chi<0>s. Generally, the more devout these neocons seem to be, the more skeletons they have in the closet.

[QUOTE=Moore]So Rush Limbaugh is a monger.

That doesn't do much for our image. He's a piece of shit regardless of his politics and a hypocrite before this story.

Even odds, do you think he was sessioning with girls or boys in the Dominican Republic?[/QUOTE]He might be an equal opportunity kid fucker or in to something a bit off kilter with adults. Polymorphous perverse maybe. Maybe he's meeting Donovan McNabb, or more likely he and Karl Rove are masturbating together while they gaze at one another in a full length mirror. That'll put you off your feed!

I could not care less about what happens to Rush Limbaugh, but the fact that they hassled him over Viagra, does give me some concern. I know lots of guys bring vitamin V home from BsAs. Has anybody had any problems?

[QUOTE=Punter 127]I could not care less about what happens to Rush Limbaugh, but the fact that they hassled him over Viagra, does give me some concern. I know lots of guys bring vitamin V home from BsAs. Has anybody had any problems?[/QUOTE]Seems the problem was that the prescription was not in his name. Probably not a big issue, and apparently cleared up by his physician. His doc is probably doing him a favor by putting some "questionable" prescriptions in his own name (given Rush's history of major "fraud" in that area re: Oxycontin) I am not an expert in this field, but if your script for whatever is in your own name you should not have a problem. However if you are running around from one country to another with 10 bottles of Xanax, and none in your name, expect some issues.

Maybe Mpexy can add some info here. My bet is that Rush would not have had a problem without his legal history.

Perhaps a customs agent wanted to harrass Rush. Detained for a bottle of viagra, come on. But Rush arriving from Dominican Republic with it makes a good story.

I know a lot of guys that are buying, using, and bringing home 'vitamin V' don't have a prescription. Hell I know a guy that brought 5 boxes of 20 back on his last trip, and nobody said a word.

I could bring back 20 kilos of heroin and nobody would say a word, [b][i]if[/b][/i] I didn't get searched. My guess is the Dominican Republic's customs' agents knew nothing of Rush's history; they just looked in his belongings and the name on the script didn't match the name on the passport. Ummm, that's illegal and always has been.

I'm betting in the long run Rush gets pinched again for drugs and ends up doing time over it.

I've known a few people that got hooked on pills over the years, there was no way they were about to give them up, Rush is no exception.

Moreover, I'm betting Rush doesn't need a prescription to buy pills in the DR. He was probably partying while he was there.

Its also interesting to note he likes "Black Chica's"

We'll have to wait and see what he comes up with for a reason for getting pinched.

Exon.

[QUOTE=Dickhead]I could bring back 20 kilos of heroin and nobody would say a word, [b][i]if[/b][/i] I didn't get searched. My guess is the Dominican Republic's customs' agents knew nothing of Rush's history; they just looked in his belongings and the name on the script didn't match the name on the passport. Ummm, that's illegal and always has been.[/QUOTE]He was searched; he was pulled aside at EZE, for a random search, shoes and carry on. They were pulling about 1 of every 6 people; they didn't say a thing about the 'vitamin V'. I guess they were not looking for drugs.

But they did take my book matches?

I only know the medical side of the law, not the don't-put-me in jail side of the law for the fine nuances.

But all possession, importation, distribution, and / or manufacture of drugs from big companies down to physicians to end patients in the United States fall under the Controlled Substances Act. In short, every drug has a category under which it falls - Schedule I to Schedule V to non-classified (which means you can pack 10 cases of the stuff and you're fine)

Schedule I - no one wants to be caught with these. These are drugs that might be legal elsewhere in the world, but the United States has decided a) it has no currently accepted medical treatment use, and be) too dangerous for use even under medical supervision. Doctors can never prescribe a Schedule I drug, and mere possession whether you have a script for it or not is going to get you in trouble with whatever specific penalty each state or federal law applies for that type of drug. This category includes addictive drugs like meth, DMT, heroin, LSD, and more dubiously political drugs like GHB and marajuana.

Schedule II - One step lower but still fairly serious drugs, and oddly enough cocaine falls here because technically under certain circumstances it can be used by prescription as a topical anaesthetic. Although usually in the derivative form of eucaine. All schedule II drugs are only available by prescription and every single dosage from manufacture to distribution is strictly controlled. Possession of them has to be in your name for that prescription. Possession of non-prescribed schedule II drugs can get you in trouble. Rush's OxyContin from a purely technical side was the big deal it was because techincally OxyContin is a Schedule II drug. I'm sure there was politics behind it which I don't want to get into, but it's a lot easier to make politics out of someone getting caught with a Schedule II drug than some Schedule IV drug.

Schedule III - same as schedule II for prescription only but lot less distribution controls. Ketamine, codeine, anabolic steroids, etc all fall under this category. Same for possession - prescription better be under your name or technically you could be charged with unlawful possession of a controlled substrance.

Schedule IV - this is the hollywood crowd drug supermarket - all your usual mild sedatives - Xanax, Valium, other benzos, Ambien, barbituates and other phenobarbitals, etc. They are all again prescription only, but there's little to zero distribution controls. However, possession is still by your name script only. I don't know how other states do it, but in California, while it's technically a violation of the CSA to possess a non-prescribed Schedule IV drug, I don't recall ever hearing someone getting charged much less busted for it. I suppose it's up to the DA or ADA deciding how free their calendar is or whether there is some politics behind it.

Schedule V - some by prescription only, some non-prescription like your cough suppressants, anticonvulsants, etc. Technically like above, but it would be surprising for the Feds or State to charge you with possession.

Schedule VI - this is not a fed control, but a state by state regulation. Non-drug items like inhalants (amyl nitrate or poppers) nitrous oxide, etc. Are controlled here by some states. Oregon went nuts awhile back and decided any over the counter cold medication with pseduoephedrine (think Nyquil) now needed to be by prescription only as a Schedule VI drug. The supposed rationale was that in Oregon there was / is apparently an army of drug lords using the pseudoephedrine in cold medications to help manufacture methamphetamine. I suppose these drug lords all don't have cars and can't just step over the border to Washington but oh well.

Non-classified - free for all.

For the Rush case that spurred this question - I have no idea why he was detained or even had his doctor have to vouch for him. Sildenafil or Viagra is not a controlled substance - it's prescription only to obtain them yes, and technically if they can prove purchase without prescription was made it's illegal, but it's not a Schedule classified drug. So while it may require a prescripton to obtain it, there's no control over possession. If he had been caught with Xanax which is a controlled substance, that would be one thing - but Viagra is a non-controlled prescription only drug. Physicans don't even need a special license to prescribe it like with most controlled substances so that it can be monitored - it just falls under the general script authority.

[QUOTE=Exon123]I'm betting in the long run Rush gets pinched again for drugs and ends up doing time over it.

I've known a few people that got hooked on pills over the years, there was no way they were about to give them up, Rush is no exception.

Moreover, I'm betting Rush doesn't need a prescription to buy pills in the DR. He was probably partying while he was there.

Its also interesting to note he like's "Black Chica's"

We'll have to wait and see what he comes up with for a reason for getting pinched.

Exon.[/QUOTE]The guy is a walking contradiction. On air, a vehement religious conservative, off air, a pill popping, minority fucking hedonist. He's not so bad after all!:D

Mpexy: Show me credible evidence that LSD is addictive.

Punter: Yeah, that's here in Argentina. They search him in Miami or wherever in SP, could and probably would be a different story.