2004 Reports - Edited

Exon Reporting: The Visa Game. First let me thank all the Mongers that PM'ed me regarding their advice. There were probably 30 responces to my call for help. Heres the bad news Mongers. Its next to impossiable for a working girl chica to get a Visa from our US Embassy in Buenos Aires. Basicly the girl has to prove it would be an economic hardship for her to remain in the USA ilegaly on a US Visa. She pretty much has to prove she has a better live in Argentina than she ever would have in the USA. So based on the fact that working girls don't have any money, (thats why their working), theirs really no possibility. A marriage Visa takes months to get and is only good for 90 days, then you have to marry them or their out. Not an Option. Im my case I sent $300. by Western Union down to Mayra. $100 to Mayra as a commission for her time and trouble and $200 to my chica for expense's. Mayra has a Visa and has helped girl friends get them, so she knows the process. So I wanted Mayra to help coach my Chica as to what to say. The Visa alone is $100, non-refundable, plus pictures, ect,ect. My gal had all the tickets except one, she didn't have a real job. This was doctored up. She owned her own apartment, had two minor kid's ages 10 & 13. Even had her own credit card. Theres was no way she could have stayed in the United States. The Interviewer told her NO. I latter recieved some insider information that she really didn't have any good reason to come to the USA and she made to much money, as she reported 5000 pesos per month income. This was to much money for an Argentine employer to pay. Only international companys paid that kind of money. So bottom line the only way to get one up here is to fly them to Northern Mexico hire a "Coyote" and smuggle her across. Something that would invite a long stay in one of our Federal Prisons if caught. Again Not an Option ---- Your comments Please ---- Exon

Exon:

The process is whimpsical, or at least it depends on the officers' whims of that day. I know of people who make less than ar$1500 a month get their visas, while people without a visa application background were rejected even if in their mid 60s and owning a company at BA.

If you speak English, traveled before to the States and know where you want to go, it easier to convince the officer than if you don't know anything about the US (including the language) and pretend that you want to visit the country (besides going to Disneyworld, where you have to bring your kids and thus show support for their tickets and accomodations expenses).

In any case, bringing a chica North has significant chances of becoming a headacke: If the chica stays at your place and decides that she want to overstay her visa and build her "American Dream", you may be in trouble with the INS because of concealing an illegal alien. Besides, things may get worse if you threat them to report their behavior, since a chica could get mad and report your "business arrangements" with her, and use that advantage to ask you to buy her "this and that".

I know, I know... many can call me paranoid or too disrespectful to these ladies, but remember that several of them live in their own fantasy, hardly distinguishing it from truth. Many of you may know the history of a college student who received a generous support from a monger and, because of jealousy or who-knows-what, threw the relation to a trashcan. And I mention a monthly support that she could hardly make anywhere else. So if a chica can be that crazy to undermine her financial support, why wouldn't she jeopardize her legal condition abroad and create a story of a cheap soup-opera?

I hardly remember someone who had a great experience by bringing chicas home, and many discourage such idea.

Hope this helps,

Andres

It is Austral Winter in BsAs, and the city has a different look altogether. People looks busier and perhaps less friendly in their quick walking on the avenidas, and girls aren't showing much of their goods and cause your head to spin every 10 meters like in the summer.
The fog is lining the city tonight, and you may think all this makes life grim in here.
This is not the case, as the good life we know and enjoy is going pretty much undisturbed. Still genereous, totally sex driven girls are populating the apartments, still unhappy wives or single mothers are going in masses to the best boliches to earn a well deserved economical indipendence.
I'm leaving soon for my annual stay in Europe and compiling my own 'Best of BsAs 2003-2004'. The absolute winner, Brazilian N., is unfortunately not available anymore. After a crazy summer of love she decided to be back with her housband, and cannot even be called without incurring in the irate guy reclaiming his ownership. Sigh.
Still some good news. First, I suggest you guys take a look at this website bairesgirls.com.ar, that is pretty much the only one with authentic pictures and an uncensored discussion forum. There aren't so many girls but I can reccomend Augustina, pretty face, BIG beautiful natural breast and a wild sex drive. 100 pesitos an hour, very well spent. I think anything goes with this girl.
And, my latest sweet find, F. of Catto's. She's a slim 20yrs old, great body, pretty face with bedroom hazelnut eyes, with the natural vocation to be your slutty GF for an hour, a night or more. She has a need for the money so make sure you make her happy first under this aspect, after that is all pure great fun.
I will add others as they resurface to my memory. One last recommendation for those of you planning your next trip, please give a look at the Apartments section. Jackson is renting his own, and there are other great opportunities to catch there as well.
Take care!

Hello El Flaco, This is your old neighbor. Sorry you are leaving.

I am sure all of the beautiful chicas here will cry for you.

Yeterday, at Cafe Orleans , had a great experience with a chica I had not seen much. When I asked her why; she said (what else)

I don´t come in there much in the middle of the month. Now It is the beginning of the month, and rent, water, electricty, and telephone bills are all due ¨

Thus another data point for the eternal monger debate about wheather there really are semi pro chicas just trying to make ends meet at rent time.

Yesterday was one of my most awesome days in BA. After an excellent lunch at Plaza Asturrias (Avenida de Mayo y Salta across the street from Bar Iberia), I went to Guemes 3221 to get reacquainted with Salome (aka Ailen, aka Yael). What a nice gal.

Now Guemes has been remodeled. It was closed for a month. It is much nicer now, with all new beds, new wallpapaper, and a better stereo. Of course I am such a Dickhead I didn't even notice any of this until Salome pointed it out. The bed was very nice. Every bed should come with a sweet 5'7" morocha already installed. Her BJ was covered this time. That never happened before. I did not inquire as to why and it was very good anyway.

As the fat madam, Araceli, was escorting me to the elevator, once the door shut to the apartment the corridor was completely dark. I took this opportunity to grab her and kiss her and pat her ass. Then the hall light went on and I said "Te aproveche' en la oscuridad" (I took advantage of you in the dark). She giggled and said "Now I won't be able to sleep tonight."

Then I went to Pelvi's and had a few whiskeys while my dick got hard again. Then I went to The Clover and had a few too many Guinnesses. We went out to eat in deserted restaurant at Godoy Cruz 1823 called El Andaluz. Empty restaurants are usually a bad sign but the food was very good. I enjoy having my personal sommelier on hand as I enjoy wine but know nothing about it.

Then off to Nuevo Estilo. This time I wasn't letting Antonela get away. I really did a number on her this time. I also got the tall blond waitress, Rubia, who has spurned my affection in the past, to agree to go with me on some future visit. Note that short blond cheerleader waitress Laura has been canned.

I love Nuevo Estilo and when I die I want my ashes scattered over Antonela and Pamela as they do their lesbiana show.

I took Cialis last night and I am horny as hell so I think I will go to Maipu' 429 after lunch.

Dickhead wrote:

"I love Nuevo Estilo and when I die I want my ashes scattered over Antonela and Pamela as they do their lesbiana show"

Oh Dickhead, Last year , I visited Nuevo Estilo every day of my two weeks vacation and all because of that stunning blond: Antonella
I also recall a girl who animated the show.she seemed picky with guys because everyone loved her and she didn't even talked to you if she didnt like you.She was always next to to the dj booth.Is she still there?

BoyinLima

That would be Greta. She is rarely there any more but she was there last night. What a b i t c h that woman is.

Exon Reporting: Just before my last trip I made a call to a cell number here in the USA. Their was no answer so I left a message leaving my name and number. Apon return the first message on my tape was a return call. I called the number back and found that Natalie was in BA at the same time I was and we didn't know it, we had missed each other. Time passed, a month or so and the phone rang again. Natalie wanted me to fuck her girl friend Corina whom was in Las Vegas, a short flight away. Well one thing lead to another and soon I was meeting Corina at the airport. We had a wonderful weekend of fucking and sucking and I put her back on the plane Sunday night. As you rember I was looking to get a Visa for a Chica of mine. One of my first reply's was from DickHead with some good information. ( BTW DickHead check your PM's), and a recomendation to try Corina in Las Vegas. I'd already done her. And of course now she's plying her trade in London. (BTW Mickey Mouse Natalie is back in New York). Its a very small world as DickHead was in the UK at the time of the communications, and now of course he's in BA. Well the point to my story is theres a whole group of Argentine working girls here in the USA. Las Vegas, Chicago, New York, Miami and London. Heres the problem, its just as fine quality pussy as we find in BA but the pricing is competitive with US pricing. So if anyone wants expensive Argentine pussy here in the USA call Natalie at 702-526-7029, its a Las Vegas number but it rings in New York ----- Exon

To add to Exon's story, when I was in the UK I got a call from another one of Corina's buddies, named Silvina, a Cordobesa rather than a Porten~a, who was living in London. I never went to see her because London's two hours minimum from where I was living but it does again remind me of how small the world can be.

So I just "came" from Maipu' 429. They tried to jack the price up on me, quoting me 70 and 100 the hour. I said no, because I know it's 50 and 80. Madam says we just raised the prices yesterday. Yeah, right. So I say no, me voy, and she says well you might as well see the chicas. Only 3 available, two doable, one past the expiration date. So I view and then I say no, it's too expensive. Miraculously, the price reverted to 50 and 80. Chose Laura for an hour.

Good choice. I think I was in the same room that I had the first time, and not the one I had the second time with the fucked up bed. I got a cold beer but it was Schneider this time instead my preferred Brahma. I choked it down anyway; better than Quilmes.

Laura is a Porten~a through and through, maybe 32, muy bien flaca, nice tits although small of course. BBJ, which makes 2 out of 3 there. Very horny, jacking herself off while blowing me. As a gentleman I then took over and jacked her off with my finger and a little head plus FUTA and she came pretty fast. Then it was my turn, which took us to the 40 minute point, after which we cuddled and talked some politics and some cooking. Recommended. She does smoke or else just smelled of the other people's smoke (maybe the latter cuz I smelled it on her hair but not on her breath). She is not shaved (I prefer them unshaved) and has a very nice ass.

I think maybe Andre's posted the phone # for Maipu' but here are two: 4322 1895 and 4328 4568.

Suerte,

DH

Hi guys,

I'll be staying Buenos Aires in Retiro this June 22- the 28th. Any mongers interested in getting together for drinks and/or playing grab ass with the ladies, please PM me.

Art

FUTA = finger up the ass. I gotta tell you guys, the ratio in Catto's last night was overwhelmingly high. Plus after the football game was over (we lost), a whole second wave came on. Quality was quite high, too. I think that is the most chicas I have seen in there.

Plus that blond singer was there again. I would give my left nut to fuck her. Also she is a very good singer (as if that matters) and a very sweet person. Did I mention that I want to fuck her real bad? I mean [b]real[/b] bad.

But my fate is now sealed in Catto's. I have shat in my lunch pail and I now must be monogamous. Well, I mean I must be monogamous [b] in there[/b]. Well, really I mean I'd probably better not get [b] caught[/b] pulling anyone else out of there besides my favorita. But as we know, I like to live dangerously.

DH, the only problem with Catto's from my experience is that while the ratios may be good, you can't see your damn hand when you hold it up in front of your face! And there's a reason why the lighting is dim, as it conceals all manner of ugly hos! Which is not to say that there aren't any good looking ones in there, but that finding one can be difficult in the dark.

Any recent changes with the lighting (or lack thereof)?

-Uncle Otto

Here's an idea from one of the Moscow veterans, the esteemed CA Traveler: [b]Use a keychain flashlight![/b]

I mean, when you have to choose your "bride" like [url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/attachment.php?s=&postid=222768][red]this[/red][/url], the keychain flashlight comes in very handy....not to mention that it can also help weed out the fake 100 Pesos bills.

[i]Photo credit goes to Ca Traveler[/i]

As usual, we disagree. I think that the lighting in Catto's is better than the lighting in Hook. I mean, in Hook the waiters carry little flashlights to count the money (or MIScount it) and you don't see that in Catto's. But, that could be because I seldom get a table at Catto's and normally do at Hook (since I don't go in there by myself). Last night I sat right by the stage and I could see the chicas pretty well. I sometimes see a 5 or so in Catto's or Hook but I can't recall seeing any truly ugly girls in either place, ever.

Personality is more important to me than looks anyway. However, I now know at least ten chicas in BA that are very nice looking AND have nice personalities so it's really not an issue at this point.

Now Ness, I've seen some real dogs in there. I think that if the stage show is going on in Catto's, it's pretty much WYSIWYG.

I am returning to BA in June 10-15. Any people want to meet up and check out the local inventories, PM me.

Jackson...I owe you a beer so if you are around, let us meet back up.

Cali

DH, I didn't post anything about the lighting at Hook being better than in Catto's. Neither place is particularly appealing to me, though I usually make the rounds of each of them during a trip to town to have a drink and assess the talent.

In my experience the lighting is dim in all the Suipacha clubs, but better in Recoleta.

-Uncle Otto

P.S. Time was not so long ago, DH, when you would never have admitted to spending time in any club, let alone prefer one to another. Your evolution has been a pleasant one for me to watch.

Tonight I went back to Nuevo Estilo and Antonela was not in evidence so I went with the tall blond waitress, known as Rubia but who said her name was De'bora. Undressed she has an even better body than would be assumed in a clothed state. Vital stats are 172 cm; 65 kg which sounds like a lot but she is not at all heavy but rather a strong, well-built woman; and 24 years old. Shaved.

Performance was sub-par, though. Of course I am pretty jaded at this point. CBJ, fairly skilled, but only a few minutes of it. Sort of passive, responsive but not very aggressive. She had a good rythmn going with the blow job, to the music, but during fucking just sort of lay there. Also she is not very tight even though she says she has no kids (and I believe it). Maybe she is just too big of a girl for me.

Would not repeat. I did not negotiate price in advance as she seemed very anxious to go with me and since I haven't had any issues with that lately. She was (or pretended to be) unhappy with what I wanted to give her, which was 125. She said everyone else got 200 for an hour and the dancers got even more. I said well actually I have been fucking here longer than you have been working here and I have fucked several of the dancers and no, they don't get that, at least from me. After some back and forth I gave her 150 and told her I would not go with her again. She lit up a cigarette in the room as soon as we were done and I don't like that. Antonela is a heavy smoker but she NEVER does that.

So then of course as soon as I got back there was Antonela. I suppose I deserve that for my lack of patience.

EDIT: To clarify, I had already paid for the room, 33 pesos. Usually with Antonela or Laura I would give them maybe 160 or 170 pesos and they would pay for the room. I think maybe Antonela works a deal to pay a bit less for the room than 33 pesos based on some money I saw change hands. I think mongers should negotiate a price that includes the room, for this reason, when at NEB.

DH,

Saw your note about Pelvi's. I assume that's the one on Cordoba. Do you know if any of those cute young chicas who parade around in their lingerie are on the program? Or is it strictly beer and pool?

I figure if anyone could persuade them to the dark side, you would be the one to do it.

Guillermo

Pelvi's is not on Co'rdoba. One is one Corrientes near Maipu' (actually right near the corner of Esmeralda) and is a good place to go get your dick hard before going to 429. The other is on Callao near Corrientes. I am referring to the one on Corrientes. There's actually a third one somewhere farther from downtown, maybe in Flores??

My sommelier and I were there again today and we are still pouring the foundation. Roxana and Jackson both say there is no official program but unofficially there is one there (at least) that I think could definitely be had. Today they were giving each other massages. But, the slutty looking one is not really all that great looking so if I do fuck her it will have to be about a 60 peso deal. I'll be going there fairly frequently, I suspect, since the prices are very good, especially during happy hour.

Stay tuned for further information

Yes! Callao and Corrientes, that's the Pelvi's where I used to hang out. One of the chicas there was a real looker. Said she was a native of South Africa. Spoke perfect English. She would have been a real trophy.

I imagine she's moved on by now.

Look forward to your reports.....

Hey guys,
I need some enlightening here.
What is this Pelvi's? What kind of activities take place here?
DWC

I am going back to BA next week. After taking care of family matters, I shall have some time to meet some of you for a tour of the areas. I speak spanish. Also, if you need something from the US, let me know. looking forward to some tryouts.

I am going back to BA next week. After taking care of family matters, I shall have some time to meet some of you for a tour of the areas. (I speak spanish. ) Also, if you need something from the US, let me know. looking forward to some tryouts.

To clarify, I have not been to the one on Callao near Corrientes where they have the erotic shows at 1:30 every morning. I am always hip deep in pussy at 1:30 in the morning. I have only gone to the one ON Corrientes.

DWC, they have a website: pelviscafebar.com.ar. BTW they are marketing franchises.

Tonight I ran across my first mobile hookers. I was at Marcelo T and Esmeralda and I heard the usual "hola mi amor" but it sounded like it was coming from knee level. I thought maybe I would fuck my first dwarf but it turned out to be coming from a parked car. Two gals in a car offering sex. Later I heard this is getting more popular in Buenos Aires: blow jobs in cars for 20 p catering mostly to locals. I may be a Dickhead but I am not getting in any hooker's car.

The rest of the night was so strange and sick and perverted that I cannot discuss it. I did thoroughly enjoy it.

Dickhead,

It seems like you are living your dream. I am very happy for you. And thanks, as usual, for the great reports.

DWC,

Pelvi's is the Pelvis Bar. It's a kind of chain of bars in BA. I've only been to the one on Callao near Corrientes. The come-on is cute young chicas serving you while dressed in nothing but their lingerie. The one on Callao has a stage downstairs where they have late-night strip shows. It's mainly a local crowd, drinking beer and playing pool. From what Roxanna told me, there is no P4P there, but some of those chicas are very, very nice.

Guillermo

Oh yeah,

I remember seeing this kind of places. There used to be
one next of cafe Exedra.

DWC

Now I have lost my mongering virginity completely as I did the first TLN of my long and notorious career last night. However I did not sleep much because my dick was so hard I did not have enough skin left to blink my eyes. I did not pay any more than I normally do for a session with her. In fact money was never discussed and she put her "regalito" (her term) in her purse without looking at it. 3 separate sessions. I probably won't make a habit of it but it was a nice tender contrast to the previous night's debauchery.

DH,
Congratulations, you have been converted!
MM

CONverted or PERverted? BTW I am not sure if this "TLN" really counts as such. It was not arranged in advance. It was a thing where after we went out to dinner (very late by US standards as usual) and overate (as usual), she asked if I would be mad if she slept for a while and we could screw later. So I let her sleep for a while but I couldn't so I finally started molesting her in her sleep until she woke up at ??? AM and we fucked like hell and then both went to sleep until morning (and then fucked like hell again).

But I would not do this if I had not previously met the chica 7 or 8 times. OK, well maybe I would if I was drunk. Or horny. Or drunk and horny. But damn MM you know I hardly ever drink when I'm horny. And I never get horny when I drink.

So today I was walking around looking for apartments and I stopped in front of a rental office that was, of course, closed on Sunday, to read the ads and get the guy's number. Some gal was walking by and said hola so I asked her what were good neighborhoods to live in and we chatted and of course she is on the program so I got her number and maybe I will fuck her later today. Or not.

But my question is: Last night it was just fucking with no sucking. Does this mean the next time I see her it should be just sucking with no fucking, to balance things out? Is that a rule? This has never come up before.

DH,

Sometimes we Fuck, sometimes we Suck and sometimes we Fuck & Suck. The best thing about a TLN is that you can have whatever you want whenever the "horns" start to grow. The thing that really amazes about your TLN is that you took her out to dinner. Now that's not the frugal DH I know! It sounds like you & Stormy are having too much fun without me!

I love it when another cherry gets popped,
A whimpering Mouse in Sex Prison

Actually I took her out to dinner TWICE. But as opposed to taking an American girl out for dinner, I KNEW I would get laid and dinner cost me $30 with wine, tax, and tip instead of $100.

I just came from Talcahuano 308 and it was closed. So that does not appear to be a Sunday alternative. The good news is that Queen, in the same block, appears to be permanently closed. That place really sucked.

DH,

The same night you spent $30 for food, wine, tax and tip, I had dinner with a friend that cost me $170 for the same except I didn't get tucked in or kept warm like you.

HHMMM, give up a few dinners and I have my next plane ticket back to paradise.

MM

Did the $170 include a shrimp appetizer like mine did, and coffee afterwards? Actually getting kept warm was part of the problem with the TLN: she wanted the heat turned up to 25 and several extra blankets on the bed (she is from Formosa and can't take the cold). I was roasting.

I did just fuck the girl I met on the street today but only after chatting with her for an hour or so over coffee and finding out we have a mutual friend. I then called the friend on her cell phone and she vouched for her so I took her back to the apartment. 70 pesos plus 10 propina since I bargained so hard to get her down to 70. 4 for coffee and 3 pesos to call the friend in England from the locutorio (79 centavos a minute). So $30 US.

One of the tens I gave her turned out to be trucho, the first I have seen. I think I got it from a fellow monger who broke a 50 for me. I remember a taxista or waiter or someone not taking it from him last night and I thought it was because the corner was torn. Oh well; live and learn.

There was No appetizer, dessert, coffee or Apertivo and there was definitely a chill in the air. I have also had a problem with the girls wanting to turn the heat up because they prefer a sauna while they nap or sneaking cigarettes in the bathroom which I hate.

$30 vs $170, I guess we know the winner here! Oh, I forgot, at least my bed was cool. I am such a lucky guy.

Remember, I found a couple gems out of Ness last time, but had to make frequent visits because the place is so hit and miss! That's where I found the 3 blondes for a Great TLN in January.

"Keep it up" my good friend,
MM

Damn. Shrimp appetizers!! I am all in.
Gonna run for the next flight down there!

Glad you guys have your priorities straight. But shouldn't this thread be in the restaurant section?

Prazer

I already recommended the restaurant in question in the appropriate section.

Now I want to talk about the magic wall. The magic wall is in Esmeralda 900 on the west side. I call it the magic wall because although there are often hookers on the magic wall, what is more striking is that if there are no hookers, how quickly they appear if one sits on or hangs in the vicinity of the magic wall.

On my first visit to BA, a huge flame war erupted over the question of whether or not it is safe or advisable to pick up street walkers. In retrospect, I see both points of view but tonight I had no need for sex and I just made two passes by the magic wall to see what would sprout up.

I sat and talked to two gals for about twenty minutes and I don't think they were out to roll anybody. I just think that if they work in the clubs, they have to work too many nights and they both have day jobs that don't pay squat, but that they need to hold on to. I told them both up front that I was completely empty at this point and just wanted their numbers as a future possibility. We then had an interesting discussion about whether Kirchner is really a Peronista or not. They are both Porten~as and had some strong opinions on this. They both say they graduated from secundaria, and they both say they don't do anything uncovered.

So, in conclusion, I don't see why street walkers or street sitters or whatever you want to call them should be [b]automatically[/b] avoided. Judgement should be used at all times but I don't see why they are inherently dangerous any more than club girls who could drug your drink or internet girls who could case your place for a burglary.

Maybe some are just independent entrepreneurs trying to minimize overhead?

Back in BA,

Well, arrived Sunday afternoon back to a sunny BA, albight, a tad on the cool side being winter. First night tried out one of the internet chicas I had been conversing with over a long period of time by email. Nice gal, great body and face, nice place, higher end, way too high on the price scale, almost canceled, sex a bit too much business, (a lot too much). A second time might be better as now we 'know' each other now following over an hour of talking, but it all boils down to client time is money time, as that cuts into family and friends time. I guess I have been spoiled by others, but one must branch out from time to time. As others have said, keep your options open and do not fixate.
Monday night, off to Estilo Nuevo, after my equipo de heilo lost on espn. First time, highly recommended. This was an exploratory trip for me. Slow night but great looking talent, 25 or so. No pressure. Prices quoted 150p for an hour to the hotel next door, 30p for the rooms which they say are clean and with jacuzzi?
Free pizza on Wednesday.
Maybe I will be back on Friday but now an old stand-by thinks I am coming to BA Wednesday, and will want to drain me of all my plata and lecho, so I am not sure how to fit this all in on top of a 10 hr work day. DH, I will try to call later.
mag

The rooms at the love hotel by NEB are indeed [b]squeaky[/b] clean, but only some of them have jacuzzis. When you check in, you get a package with towels, condoms, toothpaste, and so forth. There is music. Most of the rooms have the showers positioned so you can keep an eye on your belongings. You can get beers for 3 pesos and they have one of the little revolving doors in the wall so you can get service without opening the doors. It's very nice and much better than when they formerly had rooms upstairs. But the cost does add up. The cost appears to fluctuate just a bit so as I said before, it's good to negotiate a price that includes the hotel and let the chica pay for the room.