Buenos Aires - 2002 Reports

Royal21

Firstly let me qualify that I have not yet visited BA (I am booked to go in December), but I am well travelled to other Latino countries. Also I do not know the ways and wherefores of what the Argentineans will think of your turban (head gear, pagh).

However, I have a number of Sikh friends and when a few of us go out to clubs (in Europe) they take the turban off. They tie their long hair, sleeked back, into a pony tail. This is very effective, indeed very evocative when they dress sharp. Actually, it is very reminiscent of Latino macho-men.

I agree with Andres' last paragraph about sophistication. I have a feeling if you try this method you will fit in more easily than with your pagh on. I would go so far as to say that it could turn into a chica puller.

Regards, Havanaman

In a pinch, jump to the short version at the bottom.

*** Narrative version including standard Argentina mantra

Monger or not, there is only a limited number a of 'must see' places in the world, and among these are Argentina and Buenos Aires.

First of all, the peso value thing, it's like something screaming for revenge. At the time I was in B.A. the peso changed 3.6 for a dollar, the average salary was 400 pesos, and you could buy sex not to forget for 200.
Now, if that was third world, that would be normal. But in BA you may very well believe you're in a Paris with the sun, to use a weared-out say.
I don't know jack about the IMF, econopolitics or whatelse, but let me tell you that whoever has brought Argentina to the present condition must have been stealing big time, and for a long time.

For your stay, my personal recommendation is the Art Suites. These are posh mini-apartments with kitchen and jacuzzi in the heart of Recoleta. Among the amenities, you'll be able to monitor the main door on the street on TV. It was nice to see my chicas waving goodbye! As mentioned in the posts in the Hotels section, this place has class and the management doesn't like to see it patronized by slobs. If your plan is to have girls in and out 24/7, it won't be the right place for you. Else, use a little discretion, and you'll be OK.
I was a bit bothered by the fact that WSG was down at that time, and I didn't printed the essentials, but Tio Otto was so kind to send me an abridged version of his hitchhiker guide to BA, thanks Tio !

You'll find all what you need in Recoleta neighborhood. I needed a socket converter for my ThinkPad, and readily got it from the minuscule hardware store next door, that I believe carries as many items as Home Depot. Haircut, restaurants, gym, tanning, pharmacy and more debaucheries aren't more than few doors away.

In the afternoon I was ready to see the city, and why not, visit some apartment ladies, just to familiarize a bit with the place. I called Celeste and turned out to be a good choice. She looks like that soccer mom that you would be happy to screw at home (if I were screwing a soccer mom, I would feel sorry for the kids, as she would be always late to pick them up). She has a nice small apartment on Esmeralda, and she's a very easy person to talk, with a sense of humor, her advertised 'bar service' is actually the coffee that she boils for you. I liked the relaxed atmosphere, we had a beautiful weather and enjoyed plenty of sex in full daylight, no rush and a lot of attention to details.

I don't remember now what I did after that but must have been of little importance, and soon I found myself at Playwoman for the first time. I quickly hooked-up with Andrea, a very pretty young chica, plaited blonde, smooth pale skin and a bubbly personality. Further investigation revealed full C-cup breasts icing a toned petite body. We went to my place and we had quite a good time, maybe a bit rushed because the non-negotiable house rules wanted her back at the club. I asked her to come to visit me next morning for the flag rising ceremony, went to sleep, and when the doorbell rang my heart jumped. But it was just the breakfast instead. She left me her card but I couldn't get ahold of her in the following days, altought I tried.

After another interval of hobby unrelated activities I began toy picking on Platynum again. I think there is a difference with the US regarding ads websites too. Open any American escort’s website and you'll find many ads to be full of BS, sales pitches about how paradisiacal the service will be, and few obscured pretentious pics. Some e-commerce oriented girls even mimic the corporate website with frames, online reservation, and other crap. The Argentinean websites go right down to the business, the main page has pic thumbnails and on each chica's page you find just the necessary info plus some eloquent photos of course. Yes, these pics could be re-touched too but I think it doesn’t happen in too many cases.

Anyway, I was in the mood for a massage and on the appropriate section found Wanessa that was very kind both on the phone and in person. She asked if I wanted to choose another (older) lady there, but I stick with her and proved right. Boys, whoever is the woman who invented the massage+sex combo should be remembered in history, and Wanessa maintained this ancient tradition giving a complete strong and deep massage, in a spacious room with music and fragrances and a good fuck afterward. She kept her revealing smock but allowed no touching during the massage session. This had a definite good effect, stimulated my curiosity and expectations. After the massage that cost just $40, she made me aware of the extras in a very nice way never mentioning a price. So we went to work on the table in various positions. I think that a massage table is actually a great platform for sex, I don't quite understand people that complain about that, do they really prefer a low and soft bed where any good push is absorbed by the mattress rather than thrust into your partner's body? Anyway, she was very accommodating and clean, she left briefly to take an extra shower before I went down on her. I left the place totally relaxed and in one of the best moods since years. I invited her to come to see me at the hotel the following day and we had a nice conversation over lunch at the restaurant on Azcuénaga’s corner, plus a couple of close matches in my room. That day was very hot, and I remember sweating profusely, thing that is also very good for the health if you think about it.

One place that you probably want to avoid is the Triguto (sp?) Club on Cachabuco, that is where any cab driver will try to bring you. I went there out of curiosity, it had few girls and good electronic lounge music, spoke a while with a nice but not-so-hot-nor-young lady, she had kind of high demands, after I told her I wouldn't have meet her price she left me in company of two sharky Dominicans. I perceived bad vibes and quickly left. But it was cool to roam a little in the microcentre, look around while sitting in a cafe', you definitely get the feeling that action is just waiting to happen in a lot of unexpected places.

I meet at least one fellow from a southern State, he is a member of another board that is censored into asterisks when you mention it in a report, and he was having a great time too. Being both very busy businessmen, we just spoke on the phone, but I know he asked one of my chicas her number when he ran into her in the elevator. Nice try buddy, sorry it didn't worked out! :)

I think it was Friday or Saturday afternoon when I decided to call Jimena's ad from the newspaper, turned out to be next block from Art Suites. This girl is very sweet and has really nice long hair, feline eyes, she really intrigued me (sometime I wonder if I don't click just too easily). I wanted to spend more time with, fortunately she had no other dates and after I waited for her to get ready sipping a drink in nice bar around the block we went to Musee' Renault for dinner. This is a classy place and guaranteed to make a good impression. Very nice conversation in sweet company, after that we went back to the hotel where I took control of the situation, meaning I had her to relax and completely enjoy my oral attention plus few other tricks of the trade, and again we had a very good time. The only thing that didn't worked out 100%, is that she expected a bigger donation when she left, maybe for the time spent at dinner, but in all honesty I had gave her the right and more. Anyway she left a business card that disguises her services as an autocare shop, that is a nice idea, isn’t?

Saturday night is a very lively time in la Recoleta, and you will be safe walking among people even at late hours, the small shops will be always open for you to get beer, snacks and condoms. I heard kids singing and talking loud until morning, what a vibrant and youth atmosphere compared to major US cities that seems to be curfew’d after 1:30. Again I felt completely safe, the only sad sight that reminded me of the hard times that Argentina is living now were the people searching garbage for something they can use, or even for food outside the big restaurants that must be discarding big buffets.

Some other day (OK, my recollection has lost any continuity now) I went to Sodoma club instead of Playwomen. I didn’t go to Blacks at all, despite all the reports about the beautiful girls to be found there, over the years I have developed a strong allergy to attitudes (pros and not). Knowing that you're more likely to find that kind of women there, I happily passed on that place.
Sodoma is an OK place, lot of girls and friendly staff. Now you may say that most of the girls in these clubs aren't up to your standards, however I often asked myself, wouldn’t you actually enjoy more if you pick, just for once, the slightly older and softer lady instead of that young hardbody stuck-up biatch? In fact, I did that once in TJ and did not regret it at all. However that was not the case that night and asked the young Amanda to sit with me. I think we danced a little, watched the stripper (that doesn't date) and left. It was funny because she begged me to wait while she was picking up her stuff to leave. She told me that some guys wander around and get distracted as soon they are left alone - LOL. Anyway, off we went and after a pit stop for beer and cigarettes (Saint knows Amanda habits too) we were in my suite relaxing and chatting. I have to say that Amanda speaks pretty good English although I kept practicing my Castellano as the usual. She spoke about lot of stuff, most of it didn’t really made much sense to me, but I came to the conclusion that (1) working girls have their mindtrips too and (2) I like better a girl that talks a lot and fucks with a will rather that a too quiet and passive one. It was really late when she left and I finally crashed for a well deserved rest.

This is pretty much all what I can tell about my first BA trip. This Forum’s tradition wants that I wrap-up the report saying how much I miss it, and how badly I want to be back soon. Well, that's very true, so I took the sure remedy, airplane tickets.


*** Short, factual version

Celeste, from Platynum, 4311-2514. Sweet lady, 30+, soft body, OK face, blonde short hair. Great cowgirl technique (look ma, no knees), looks to me it's her favorite. Great kisser, and great bare blower. p$ 150, no rush.

Andrea - Playwoman 15-5312-3753, young and, blonde pretty face with green eyes and somewhat petite (but not too much) toned body. Very willing to make you happy, good performance for (I think) 200. I don't think she's will do BBBJ.

Wanessa, from Platynum massages 4328-8726. Brazilian, a little too strong and heavy for my taste, not fat at all. Impressive ass and enhanced breasts, not a model's face. She's a trooper and it takes a lot to fatigue her - IF you actually can. Good BBBJ after negotiation. Going rate.

Jimena or Amira on escortsbaires.com, apt. in Recoleta 15-5400-3328 , long brown hair and beautiful cat eyes. Tight body, very sweet and somewhat reserved personality, accommodating if you ask the right way. Everything covered if I remember, no rush and overall a very nice experience. Going rate but negotiate clearly if you want to spend extra time with her.

Amanda, Sodoma. Red-haired (and I mean carrot), skinny, messed-up teeth and smokes. But young, pretty and fun to be with. Speaks English, talks a lot but will make you happy. 150 p$

Birds, robbers, and changes in Buenos Aires

The Peso devaluation has brought a lot of joy to the faces of travelers visiting Buenos Aires, and yet I was wondering how long it would be before some of our favorite clientele woke up and realized that they need to speak up about their situation and ask for some additional help. This was brought to light recently in two different situations.

During the past year or so, I‘ve never discussed a monetary value with a guest, as normally it was not necessary as prices were relatively stable. In the first six months or so of the Peso devaluation, there was immediate benefit to the visitors from the U.S., and a bit of confusion among our some of our favorite people. They did not really seem to understand how their services needed to be adjusted in order to offset this process to their benefit. We increased the Peso amount slightly, and to them that was fine. I faced sticker shock the other day though, when, in the taxi leaving Cafe Orleans, the subject of monetary reward came up. I told her no problem, and we proceeded to have a pleasant afternoon. At the end of the session, she told me that 250 pesos plus taxi was not enough for her, and she demanded 550 for the total mediocre time of 1 and ½ hours. She said that 150-200 pesos was ok for an Argentinean man, but not for a U.S. man. After a few words back and forth, nobody was going to part on good terms. Being tired of the attitude, I just asked her to leave, and that was it. Neither of us was satisfied about the outcome, and this was just chalked up to a bad experience, one of the very few in over three years.

Shortly after this episode, I am still vibrating from all of this, so it is with dexterity that I engage into a conversation with a pretty and affectionate lady for the purpose of dragging her out of Affaire, and into my arms for the rest of the night. She says 300, and I say ok. It was a wonderful night, until it was found out that 300 meant dollars, not pesos. Maybe it was the beers, but I was kicking myself for not clarifying the denomination. I really did feel bad, and she accepted my apology, and we came to an agreement. I will see her again, and maybe this time take her shopping and show her a really nice time. After she left the next morning, sleep took over for the next few hours. Being Sunday, I decided to go out for an afternoon walk to clear my head and think about all of this. These were two different situations, but they happened within about 10 days of each other.

It was a beautiful Sunday afternoon, and Ave. de Julio was very quiet, perfect for walking. Some birds flying over decided it was a good time to practice their bombing runs as well, and I felt some moisture hit my face. At first I thought it was water from an air conditioner, but then three Asian people walking in a group right next to me, pointed out that it was bird shit. A lady had a bottle of water, and started to clean out the spots in my hair, and clean off spots on my shirt and jeans. Then her male friend started in as well. After the initial shock, the defense shields immediately went up, and I began to wonder if I was the target of the mustard scam, where the victim is being cleaned up by “helpful” people, while their money is being taken at the same time. That is one reason I wear jeans while out walking, as it is very easy to protect your money in the front pocket. One guy was really busy around my right front pocket, and I may have been a bit paranoid about all of this, but they did seem that they were really trying to help. I thanked them and stopped by a café to use the bathroom to clean off my shirt. Had this been the mustard scam, the mustard would not have come off at all, and this stuff came off quite easily with cold water. Satisfied that all the shirt needed was time to dry, I continued my walk to Café Orleans, planning to just have a sandwich, and enjoy the scenery, think about the past events, and pickup some small trinkets along Florida Street. I washed my clothes later, and everything came off just fine, but I still wonder how all of this “stuff” got on the back of my jeans as well, and was I the victim of a failed robbery attempt? My health and money were intact, but I will always be curious. Anyway, time to move on and just be cautious in the future.

As warm as it was that day, clothes never seem to dry very fast when you are wearing them, and true to form, one half of the shirt was still wet when I walked into Café Orleans. If there was ever a time I needed a good friend it was now, and there she was smiling at me. It was a girl I have known for a few years, and she as always been a good companion and friend. She asked me, with a smile on her face, if I had fallen in the river. We joked about what had happened, and then I asked her about the rates of the girls for a short time, and told her what transpired before with another girl from the same café. She indicated that 250-300 pesos was normal for a nice, unrushed time. That fact surprised me at first, as just recently, normal time was around 150-200 pesos. After thinking about it though, I believe she and the other girls are finally adjusting to the devaluation of the peso, and now are asking for a bit more. It is still a bargain for visitors from the U.S., but do not be surprised to hear sounds of higher amounts than was custom a few months and even a few weeks ago. Personally, I do not mind, as these girls (except for one) are beautiful inside and out, and can be a really nice friend over time.

So the river rat was talking to his friend, and all was well. She was slowly convincing me that I needed to relax with her in the hotel around the corner, sit in the hot tub together, have lunch brought in, and do all the right things. Later I could walk along Florida Street, as it would be cooler, and I would feel much better. Right during the high point of this discussion, a guy walks in, sticks a gun in the waiter’s ribs, and demands his money. He walked out with small bit of cash, and no one was hurt. This happened in a matter of about 30 seconds. After seeing that, it was quickly decided to advance to the higher stages of relaxation. 350 pesos and about 3hours later, lunch included, I was a new man. I had forgotten just how nice she was, and it was great to re-kindle a friendship. She deserved every penny, and I will see her again.

In closing, I would just like to point out that petty crimes and scams are still alive and well in this beautiful city, and for fellow BA travelers to always be careful. Prices of the ladies will always vary, and many will be with you for less than others. If you have a special lady friend though, or meet a girl that satisfies you in every way, a few extra pesos her way will keep her smiling, and will go a long way towards her looking forward to your return. It is still a bargain for us. Let’s keep it good for them as well.

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

WOW, I guess I that is the end of the "brazil is tooo dangerous" talk. As an American I am always upset to find out when my fellow countrymen start to pay higher than local prices, because "its so cheap for us" they have no idea how this affects the society they are visiting and how it will affect future americans who visit. While people around the world protest globalization, dumb ass tourists decide to make whores the wealthiest people of third world nations. Soon enough when you visit the major breadwinners for the majority of the citizens will be whores...imagine what that does to the image and quality of life for the people there, When women start to make too much men come out of the woodwork and become pimps, you don't want that! because then the greedy pimps will not only put a tax or take all the money you payed the girl but then they will take it even further and set you up, and take everything you came with and if they are desperate enough they will aslo take your life. Never understimate what a human with no choice is capable of. I read an article about a few weeks ago about how "middle class" families in Buenos Aires are dumpster diving for food! Whole Families digging in the garbage looking for food, and the article noted that it is a popular trend, it will only take a matter of time before they go from waiting for it to be put into the trash, to taking it right when it is on sale. I am sorry for my rant, but that story is a little too familiar for me, and I would hate to see it go the way of many other poor countries, especially at such a volatile time for Argentina. To all future visitors I advise you to take be aware, not paranoid and be a little more timid in your spending spree, so that it will be enjoyable when hopefully make subsequent visits. Ciao.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vampyr
[i]WOW, I guess I that is the end of the "brazil is tooo dangerous" talk. As an American I am always upset to find out
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and be a little more timid in your spending spree, so that it will be enjoyable when hopefully make subsequent visits.
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I don't quite understand your message here. Are you simply chanting the old refrain "don't pay too much - don't spoil the market" ?
I have mixed feelings about this approach - there is the macho side that always want to dominate the deal, to go home with the most having spent the less. May be as men paying for sex we would just like to see our donation go toward zero - we have numerours examples by the fellows that aim for non-pro or semi-pro talent and won't spare anyone from mentioning that their total exposure amounted to a round of shopping.
But on the other hand, you have to think that prostitution is, in fact, a great equalizer. No matter what some people say, a typical working girl charges the same to everyone, and when a guy is simply above her tolerance level, he'll get a refusal one way or another. Sure, you'll get a better treatment if you're nice, clean and charming, but at the same time won't you also be inclined to tip more - exactly because you enjoyed a good time ?

I agree that girls that try to gauge customer's wealth should be avoided. In some way, they try to outsmart a job where, all in all, the real deal is somewhere else. I think that a girl that is really after the money, and realizes how much more an American can pay for sex, should focus on getting an US visa and trying her chances there, rather than appraising your wallet when working locally.
But again, searching for food in junk is not a nice thing as I have witnessed too, and if any extra dollar given to a girl can help her brother/kid/boyfriend not do that or to not to commit crimes, I would be happy. Maybe this is a naive tought but we can't be cynical all the time.

These few toughts as an example of how complicated the matter is, everyone is entitled to his own opinion - one sure thing is that this is not the right section on WSG - but hey that's WSG after all. Personally I encourage anyone to do some research on the current prices first, and then spend with fairness and (some) generosity before applying calculation and bargaining skills.

One thing I don't agree however, is that growth in offered sex services in Argentina will necessarily cause exploitation by pimps etc. I think this is more the case when prostitution is confined to streets, due to hypocrat laws or police repression, like the situation in the US and many EU countries that have an %80 foreign working force. Argentina however has a very realistic approach to the matter, most girls are local, so I think that pretty girls will keep making money with no 'protection' and stay indipendent , while aggressive guys will have to resort to something else for a quick buck.

I will be in BA/MDB Dec 1-8. This is my first trip there and would like to get together with fellow hobbyists for a night out.

[email]sam__wise@hotmail.com[/email]

Samwise,

I'm going to be in BA from 13 December, in the first instance for 10 days, but depending on fun, I may stay longer. Email me your dates ~ hook up would be excellent as I am also going for the first time.

Regards, Havanaman
sedition2001@hotmail.com

[blue]Greetings everyone,

While I rarely have time to enter my own personal travel information after answering email and policing the forum every day, the recent postings herein regarding the prices being asked and paid by fellow travelers to Buenos Aires have compelled me to provide some guidelines on the subject.

I have been traveling to Argentina for several years now, including four trips this year and my current month-long stay. I am intimately familiar with the scene here, including all the clubs and venues mentioned and several others that seem to have escaped the attention of the other posters. I've have several friends here, as well as a number of personal relationships with my favorite girls in most of the clubs and bars. I've also had the opportunity to see first hand the effects of the country's recent economic problems on the attitudes of the people and the chicas.

There are just a few rules to follow when hobbying in Buenos Aires, and if you follow them your experiences will be greatly enhanced.

1. The current acceptable price for a session in your hotel with a chica from any of the night clubs and bars EXCEPT BLACKS (see below) is 150 pesos. This number has held firm for several years, although there is some recent upwards price pressure, and I have been asked for 170 to 180 pesos recently. However, 150 pesos is the price that the vast majority of chicas will accept if you are firm.

2. If you do not want to bargain, you can simply offer them 200 pesos, which should be the price that makes the vast majority of them immediately pleased without further discussion. In the past weeks I've paid 200 pesos to several girls, especially if I knew them and I knew that they would provide good service.

3. Any chica that quotes you anything over 200 pesos, including these 250 peso or even the 300 dollar prices described herein, has sized you up as an idiot American tourist and is in fact insulting you with that offer. On those rare ocassions in recent weeks where I was quoted such a price, my reaction is smile quietly and tell the chica to shove off.

4. It's important to know the correct price and to negoiate. I've said this before and I'll say it again: The idea behind negoiating is not to get the chica down to the lowest price, the idea is to pay a fair price. In addition, when understanding the Latina mindset, they will respect you if you are firm. Chalk it up to their culture's sense of macho. If you roll over at the first over-priced offer, they will have no respect for you, an attitide that will manifest itself in the quality of your session.

5. Lately, the girls have developed an anoying habit of asking to be paid in advance, many times waiting until they're half undressed and I've got my pants around my ankles. This is a recent development, and I talked with several friends of mine in the business about it. Apparently there have been a number of Argentine men who have simply claimed poverty at then end of the session. Okay, that's understandable, but what's that got to do with me? Anyway, I strongly suggest that you always maintain a strict policy of paying when finished, if for no other reason than "sex is always better when I pay afterwards". A couple of times on this trip I was confronted with requests for payment in advance, upon which ensued a short discussion that if failed to produce a resolution, led me to start putting my clothes back on while telling the chica to get dressed and that I would accompany her back to the club. This unprecidented series of events always left the chicas completely speachless, to be followed by an immediate change of heart.

6. If a chica agrees to a price and then starts to change her mind at any time in the process (such as during a cab ride), just tell the driver to turn around and take her back to the club, bar, cafe, etc.

7. If there is any doubt as to the clarity or demoniation of the price, and simply as a good policy, ask her to write it down on a piece of paper or napkin, and then specifiy "pesos" or "USD". Afterwards, put the paper in your pocket in case there is a dispute later.

8. If a chica quotes you in dollars, insist on pesos, or get another chica.

9. If you are in Blacks, all the above rules are off, but then again, if you are in Blacks you are already making a mistake. Blacks is entirely over-rated, filled with baracudas looking for foreign tourists, and, inspite of the reviews of some posters herein, Blacks DOES NOT have a better selection than the other places in town. Over the years, I've probably gone in there a dozen times with the specific intent to pull a chica out of the place, and every time I've left alone.

10. Above all else, and assuming that you have the Spanish skills, always ask everything in advance. It's not very romantic, but I've learned from experience to tell them what I will pay, when I will pay it, and that I insist on a BBBJ. When you're still in the club or bar is when you have all the control.

Jackson[/blue]

Jackson,

Good post.

Jackson,

Thanks for a great post. I agree wholeheartedly about

A. Not paying in advance.
B. Paying a fair price...neither cheating the girl or being cheated. The price you quote (150-200pesos) is exactly what I have paid for over a year, including my last trip in August.
C. Blacks.....too many guys assume falsely that you have to pay more for "quality." Wrong.

Jackson is right about the prices. I offered 200 pesos the last trip to every single internet girl and all accepted that offer (except one girl from Platynum whom I payed 250 pesos). I don't like to negotiate back and forth sometimes so it was nice that they accepted 200 pesos. I'm sure I could have gotten a little lower but it wasn't worth my time haggling over 25-50 pesos.

My first trip many girls asked to be payed ahead of time. If you read my earlier posts you'll remember that. I asked why and many said the same thing that Jackson mentioned. They said that many locals have been stiffing them after sessions. The thing you have to realize is from their point of view they have very little or NO recourse if a guy does this. They can't really go to the police...unless they happen to be dating one of them.

My latest trip last month I don't think any of the girls asked for the money up front. I'd rather pay after but I don't argue if they want the money upfront. The one thing I would mention is that I don't let a few pesos stand between me and a girl I'm lusting after. I've met tons of guys that are lusting after a hottie in a bar. They don't end up visiting with her because they have this mental block in their head that they won't pay over 200 pesos. Even if a girl quoted only 50 pesos higher. Everyone has their own opinion but to me this is idiotic. If I really want to see a girl and she won't budge on her price and it's only 50-100 pesos above what I want.... I'll just do it sometimes. 50 pesos = $13 US.

I agree with Jackson's thoughts on Blacks. Blacks to me is about just shaking things up sometimes. More times than not I've left without a chica but several times I've tagged a girl from Blacks. Yes, I paid more than other clubs but didn't regret my decision. It wasn't that I didn't see a girl that I'd want. Many times they'd ask for pie in the sky numbers and I would just walk away.

I can't wait to go back down there! Life is good.

jackson, great update.

and the rest, i'll be in b.a. by friday am, with a couple of u.s. friends..., look me up in the artsuites. i'll post next week after i return.

Thank You, Jackson.

I think you are right about the prices. I am no expert in BA hobbying, having spent a total of only three nights on my last two trips to BA, I have always paid between $150-$200 pesos for the three chicas I have taken to my hotel. I remembered the first chica I took was from Solid Gold and she asked for $100 USD. When I told her no she lowered the price to $250 pesos. We negotiated down to $200 pesos. On my last trip both girls went for $150 pesos. One of them did ask for $100 USD but when she saw I was not interested she said it was a joke and the price came down to $150 pesos eventually.
While everyone should pay what they think is reasonable, we should stick together to keep prices at a certain level. Also we don't want to spoil the fun for our Porteños friends by driving the prices up.
I also agree with Jackson about being firm. It's not being macho, it's culture. Latinas expect the man to be firm but they also know how the get us to think with the little head..............

jodomas

Month Long BA Mongering Adventure - November 10-December 10

I've booked a flight from NYC to Buenos Aires via Aviana Airlines - $501, including tax.

I'll be there for an entire month, from November 10-December 10, staying at least for the first few days at Etoile, then probably moving to an apartment in Recoleta.

I figure that's a good time to monger, as the Fall weather is on average in the 80's - not too hot- and yet not high tourist season and pre Christmas: a period with few tourists and lots of incentive for the chicas to earn some extra pesos.

I'm a gourmet hobbyist, experienced at the hobby in Latin America, speak Spanish OK and know some locals that are friends and/or I have some business dealings, so I won't be going as a total gringo. I will be all over the place (except for internet chicas), checking out the usual tourists clubs in Recoleta and downtown. but also venturing into some local scenes, hopefully not settling for less than 9's and 10's, and with a budget to fully enjoy the experience.

I may also check out MDP and La Plata and I have one month, enough time to cultivate amateur's and semi-pros as well. Expect a frank and detailed report in the best tradition of our beloved Tio Otto.

If you want to hook up and go mongering together during that time email me at ww2001us@yahoo.com

The best things in live are not free:-)

Bond, James Bond 69

Jackson, great post, very informative! I especially like what you said about telling the girl when you'll pay and telling her what you'll pay for since I'm not too fond of this "please pay me now" stuff either.

Since I'll be going to BA early November and am interested in some of the internet chicas, can you tell me what is an acceptable offer to the internet hotties to come to my room for a nice, unrushed visit? What about toda la noche? Saint, can you help me out here too please? Thanks, DownBA

[QUOTE]Originally posted by saint
[i]Jackson is right about the prices. I offered 200 pesos the last trip to every single internet girl and all accepted that offer (except one girl from Platynum whom I payed 250 pesos). [/i][/QUOTE]

Saint,

What about the girls from www.escorts-argentina.com who have $100 U.S. posted?

Nice post, Jackson. Can some of you Spanish speakers help with a few phrases:

I know what the normal price is.
(To be preceeded with "I know many friends here." and stated *before* asking for a quote.)

I will pay after we are done.

In that case, I'm not interested.
(Applicable to turning an unreasonable one away in a club, or in a hotel.)

Thanks.

Jackson, Gentlemen,

Great post and one which I shall reread before my December BA visit.

I agree completely with the comments from the posters below regarding the "rules of engagement" so I will not repeat those. I just wanted to ask about the possibility of a Spanish language area…. I don't mean a 101 Spanish language forum, nor indeed about the various "to be" verbs, I mean an area which one might refer to for the kinds of questions / statements being asked by clsncntr.

I'm still learning Spanish and although progressing well, I would find it difficult to ask my teacher certain things….. An area dedicated or indeed containing pre-prepared scripts / sentences would be ideal.

Your thoughts gentlemen?

Regards, Havanaman

spanish help for specific phrase translations:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/
http://www.freetranslation.com/

a must have book, which rather than trying to teach you a language instead gives numerous specific phrases, including many specific to a bar/pick-up scene (although not the hobby scene exactly):

lonely planet spanish phrasebook (also in portuguese),
sells at amazon for about us$5.

Clsnctr, (Jackson, sorry for the Spanish, I know you once asked me not to write Spanish here but this is for a good cause, don't you think so? DownBA)

Andres is a real Argentinian and might want to correct me a bit, but I guarantee that my translations will be perfectly understood by the local Argentinians:

I know what the normal price is - "Conozco el precio normal" or "Conozco el precio regular"

(To be preceeded with "I know many friends here." and stated *before* asking for a quote.) "Tengo muchos amigos acá" or "Tengo muchos amigos en éste lugar" (I have a lot of friends in this place)

I will pay after we are done - "Te pago al terminar" or "Te pago despues"

In that case, I'm not interested - "En caso eso, no me interesa" or "En este caso no me interesa"
(Applicable to turning an unreasonable one away in a club, or in a hotel.)

Hope this halps Clsntcr, DownBA

DownBA:

You are right about the lines.

The one before the last one should be "En ese caso, no me interesa".

I usually use the line:

"El viernes pasado pagué $XXX aquí y el jueves pagué $YYY a una chica en Affaire"

(Last Friday I paid $XXX [to a girl] here and last Thursday I paid $YYY to a girl in Affaire)

With such, you are saying that:
- You are not a newcomer to the BA night.
- You know the ropes.
- You know alternative places where to find what you want if she stucks in her position.

I recommend that you never mention the name of other girls. Since these girls know everything about one another, the may start challenging you about the truth of your statements. So when one of them asks you "Quien era?" (Who was [the girl who charged you $XXX]?), just say: 'Soy muy malo para los nombres" (I'm very bad for recalling names) and "Ella no está acá hoy" (She's not here tonight).

Hope this helps,

Andres

Hey Moondog. You probably know those girls better than anyone. I can't speak for the majority of the girls there but the two that I saw from that site (including the one you referred me to) was happy with 200 pesos for a short time session. I didn't want to negotiate and offered 200 pesos on the phone. My Spanish isn't the greatest but I'd say somewhat intermediate.

Both girls didn't hesitate or even try to negotiate 200 pesos. This was just last month in September 2002. (The rate was 3.55 - 3.60 at that time).

Good luck amigos.

Saint,

I guess I'm more into the longer and more refined sessions than just a quick in and out. For that I can undertand Jackson's policy, but for a longer time including dinner and spending the night with you, and for making you feel like she is your girl friend and you are a king, then I don't mind paying more.

These girls are beautiful, and personally I love to be with them and treat them nice.

To each his own, but a little extra will go a long way towards putting a smile on her face and yours.

moondog,

the same prices jackson and saint quote should work for your plan. during my august trip i twice had an internet girl come to my hotel, for ar$200 quoted for 2 hrs. on the phone i asked "how about i take you to dinner, before our hotel time (eg. 2hrs), off the clock (not part of the 2 hrs)?" each time the girl said yes.

by the end of our dinner (actually much earlier) we were well into gfe territory, and the subsequent 2 hrs at the hotel became an all nighter, including morning action. for the same ar$200.

thus, my experience is you don't have to pay more than the ar$150-200 to get an all nighter, you just have to provide them with a bfe and they might volunteer for one.

now, if the girl has a child at home, or other responsibilities, who knows. but one of these two times the girl had a morning photo shoot appointment that she delayed due to my time.

Leo,

Good points, and every situation is different. I've had a few of those myself, and they are great.

Thanks for the post.

Leo, Saint, Moondog and the rest, thanks for the pricing tips, I'm sure they'll come in handy the beginning of November. I was planning on offering dinner to the chicas from the web site before going back to the hotel, I like to get to know the chicas a little bit first myself.

Andres, two out of three isn't too bad, eh? But you remind me of some of my picky high school teachers who used to mark down my test scores for forgetting to cross the "t" or dot the "i" jajajaj, just kidding. Most of the chicas usually tell me "Oh you speak just like an Argentinian" with which I usually brim with pride. Un abrazo Andres. DownBA

Moondog. You are TOTALLY right about longer term sessions. My quoted prices were for no more than 2-3 hours. Most of the club girls did all night for 300 pesos but I guess last trip I wasn't really into the all night/all day thing. Many girls offered to stay longer but I told them they could leave at around 6 AM to 7 AM in the morning after our "fiesta".

My trip in May I did a ton of long extended all night/all day dates. I paid many MUCH more than they asked. Yeah, it can be chalked up to not knowing any better but I wouldn't classify it in that category. Many I paid more than they asked in the morning on my own free will. I don't regret it and it made me feel good to do so. The great thing with the chicas is you can walk away. (No different than dealing with your attorney, doctor, or other "professional"). Yeah, sometimes I don't like paying my attorney $300 US per hour but you know what??? He's damn good at what he does and I look at many of these chicas in the same way.

We all can agree to disagree on pricing and many other things when it comes to the "hobby". I don't think paying more than 200, 300, 400 pesos makes you a sucker. Like I've always said before....pay what you think is fair. Don't waste money but don't be too overly concerned about it either. The difference between 250 pesos and 200 pesos is only about $13 US. That $13 US isn't gonna make or break any of us. JMHO.

Saint,

Nice post. Thanks.

Hello All,

I´m on the ground in BA, at an internet cafe Cine ma on Ave Santa Fe, and having the time of my life so far. If I make a few typos, it´s because I am struggling a little with the spanish keyboard. Anyway, I have detailed reports written, but I can´t get any of the CD drives here to read my disc, so I´ll have to wing it.

So far, I have had great sessions with four of my top internet girls, with few complaints. The going rate for all of them has been 100p per hour, with all of them very willing to stay longer. I´m going to keep this relatively short, as my taxi driver is coming back to pick me up in less than an hour.

I´ve had such a case of jetlag, I´ve used mostly the internet site girls, with an excursion last night in the neighborhood, culminating in a less than satisfactory session with a brunette from Playwoman. All the grim details are already written, and I will post when I am able.

If any of you guys are here, please look me up. I want to do the club scene right, and so far I don´t feel like I have. I could use the company and help of a seasoned veteran of this scene. I´m staying in room 1007 at the Etoile, or if you see a 40ish white guy with dark hair slicked back in a ponytail, introduce yourself and the first round at least is on me.

Overall, my experiences except the flights have been great. I have reached every internet chica on the first try, and most have arrived as scheduled. I spent this afternoon with a goddess who goes by the name of Venus, she can be seen on Gemidos, and Platynum I believe, but the pictures hardly do her justice. 21 year old fashion model, just incredible.

All for now, but life is very, very good.

Thanks to all of you posters for making me want to come to BA, I´m in love with the city already. It definitely gets in your blood.

EZE :)

EZE_Amante,

I could not find her on Gemidos. What section is she in?

100 pesos, that is amazing. Guess the competition is heating up.

Never mind, I found her. She is a pretty girl. She did not even quibble at 100 pesos? I still find that amazing.

EZE_Amante,

(or anyone) who stayed at Etoile. Can you settle this question once and for all.

IS THERE ANY INTERNET ACCESS IN THE ROOMS AT ETOILE?????????

If so, what kind? Dialup or DSL?

Moondog,

Every internet girl has been the same rate, and man do they earn it well. I wish you guys were here to show me the ropes at the clubs, but I will struggle on my own if necessary. I can´t thank you enough for all your guidance in particular.

Adios for now, my driver just showed, and I have to get some rest before going to Ness, Hook, and Catoos este noche.

EZE :)

Back at the business center in the Etoile, with Patricia giving me the place to myself, I finally found a computer that will read my disk. This is day three of my trip, but I will post my adventures so far. I will apologize in advance for the extended length of the posts, but I truly have already fallen in love with this place, and I want to share the wealth like those before me.

Day One:

Hola Amigos!

I am posting days one, two, and the beginning of day three at the internet café on day three after struggling to access the internet unsuccessfully. Oh well, lesson learned.

Let me preface this by saying thanks to all the trailblazers in BA such as but not only; Jackson first and foremost, Saint, Moondog for his incredibly helpful guidance, UWphoto, Andres, and lastly but not least Ezy. You guys made my trip possible by hooking me with all your shared experiences. I’ve never met any of you, but it would be my honor to call you guys mi amigos. I definitely owe you guys. I know there are others, and if I’ve forgotten to mention you please accept my thanks anyway for your reports.

I probably don’t need to say this, but please due me the favor of never relating any of the following details to any of the girls you meet or communicate with here. Discretion is most definitely the better part of valor imho.

I’m writing this on the morning of day 2, from my room at the Etoile Hotel. I won’t spend a lot of time in this space talking about the suite, but I’m in a diplomatic suite and very pleased overall with the rooms for $187p +VAT. The décor is a bit dated but overall very nice. There is an entry salon or greeting room with a table and chairs, couch, bar/counter, and a minibar. Down the hall is the living room with couch, 4 chairs, and television. Beyond the living room is the bedroom with the usual furniture and a balcony. The bed is small but I found it to be comfortable and the pillows were excellent. The best part of the room is the bathroom, with separate shower and toilet areas, marble tiling, and a Jacuzzi bathtub that can easily fit 3 to 4 people. However, the guest policy dictates only one guest at a time, so I may not be able to fully utilize the best feature of the suite. Just last week I was emailed an ad for a pair of 22 year old blonde identical twins on Platynum (las melizzas I think), so I am going to try to bribe the night staff at least once while I’m here. The staff at the front desk, security department, restaurant, room service, and housekeeping have all been incredibly friendly and helpful during my stay so far. I think I’m in love with the tall sandy blonde room service waitress, that is as sweet as candy. I will post photos of the room on CH upon my return.

I live in the Midwest, and fly out of Detroit, so my travel time was a little over 23 hours by the time I reached my room (imho) time well spent to get to heaven. I had to finish a project I was working on, so I worked all night Sunday, and slept only 3 hours prior to leaving. So, being exhausted already, of course I was unable to sleep on any of my flights. The final leg from Miami left around midnight, and took 9 ½ hours. On the flight from Miami, there were literally dozens of beautiful women; all but 2 of them went through the Argentina national’s line at customs. Seated next to me was a thirtyish redhead with her son. I have a fairly critical scale of women, but she was easily an 8 (I’ve never personally met a 10}, very well dressed, and smelled great. She had a habit of putting her hand on my arm or leg whenever we talked that made it difficult for me to stand if you know what I mean. Her son slept for most of the flight, so we had plenty of time to get acquainted. Let me say here that I am in my early forties, and average looking at best and maybe 25lbs. overweight. A woman this beautiful and obviously moneyed would not give me the time of day where I live. By the time we landed, she had given me her phone number in Recoleta, and asked me several times to call her while I’m here , making it clear she is not married and has no “obligations”. Tempting as she is, I’m hesitant to start a regular relationship with someone who travels frequently to the states, and who could have a detrimental effect on my hobbying activities. Upon arrival, I avoided the cambio at the airport after breezing through customs and immigration, and found my driver that had been pre-arranged by Mayra (thanks for the tip Saint!) Smooth ride to the hotel except the driver had no idea where the Etoile is, so he stopped for directions twice before getting close. In fact, I pointed it out to him when we got close. I’m glad I studied the home page on there website. Anyway, I paid the 45p plus tip in US ($15) for what turned out to be an hour’s ride from the airport, since I hadn’t changed any cash yet.

This is my first trip to BA (second scheduled for Thanksgiving week), and I have read everything posted in the BA sections since fall 2001. I have done my research, and have a good plan to hit most of the regular spots, and make use of the internet girls, and Newport girls for my activities. I also plan to do some shopping for things like good dress shoes, boots, leather coats, and silk shirts. My plan on arrival was to check in, hit the cambio around the corner, buy some wine and other essentials at the store next to the cambio, then get a taxi to the Newport. But, I was so exhausted, I decided to change money, buy wine, then use my extensive (100+ girls) internet list that I have spent many hours researching and creating. First on my list was Carla from Tryllenium, and I had no trouble reaching her on the first try. I called, and talked with a girl who spoke limited English, and with my limited Spanish we struck a deal for two hours for $200 pesos plus taxi fare. She arrived exactly on time, but when I went to the lobby to get her, I realized it was a bait and switch. The girl that was here was so pretty though, that I decided to keep the appointment anyway. Great face, but she was maybe 5’3” and 20 – 30 pounds more than I prefer. I like them young and petite, breast size is totally unimportant to me, but this girl had huge tits, that gravity will some day wreak havoc on.

Carolina: 22 years old brunette long hair
Face: 7
Body: 4
Attitude: 9
Skills: 7
GFE: 7
Overall Experience: 6 (I take points off for CBJ instead of BBBJ)
I took no pictures, didn’t ask to.

Without giving all the explicit details, we started with kissing to DFK, to CBJ not to completion, which she was just ok at, but she was very friendly, and enthusiastic, and I had her several different ways. She earned bonus points for the effort she put in for round two, the girl rode me like a bronco, and even went to a round three in the Jacuzzi tub, but I couldn’t finish three times in 2 ½ hours. I gave her taxi fare and a $20 peso tip for enthusiasm. I saw her to the elevator, and returned to the room for some much needed sleep. I will say that if I had sex with her on a daily basis, I would have no weight problem, very passionate girl.

I slept till around 9 pm, and woke up starved. I had room service bring me a great Lomo a la Bourgignone, salad, and a couple bottles of water, all for $17.50 p and a 5p tip. Not bad considering how inflated room service prices are in the states. 22.5 p = $6.00 us. After dinner, I was still tired (or lazy take your pick), so I went back to the internet list. Being after 10, I had to bypass picks 2-4 as they have regular hours posted. Number 5 was Carol from Diosastop. Her picture is of a 21 year old blonde that has her face partially hidden, but looks cute from what you can see. I called and got through first try. She sounded very friendly and we agreed on 100p per hour (seems to be pretty much the going rate for all the internet girls I’ve had so far), but she said her name is Ally, not Carol as listed on the site, also she said she would call at 11:30 to confirm a midnight appointment. 12:30 came around and no call, so I called Lumilla (Gemidos and other sites). Again I got her on first try, and she agreed to come over after taking a shower. I hung up the phone, and less than a minute later, you guessed it, Ally. I explained to her that when she didn’t call or show up, I scheduled someone else. But, since she did call, I arranged for a noon appointment for today. Again she said she would call first.

Lumilla arrived on time, and the guy from the front desk brought her to my room instead of me going down to meet her. Her face was also hidden in her photo, and when I saw her I knew why. Not ugly but definitely plain, however, she did show up on time and has a killer petite body so I invited her in. Right away she asked if she was ok for me, she must be used to being sent away when guys see her face. I said yes she was fine, withholding my usual “you are very pretty” line, because it would have been a bald faced lie. I offered her a drink which she declined, so we proceeded to the bedroom. Immediately this girl is all over me kissing while undressing me. Again I’ll spare some of the intimate details, but very good CBJ, DFK, her on top to completion. We had a nice little conversation for about 10 minutes, when she started fondling me, and little EZE woke right up for round two in which I had her several different ways ending with me on top and her legs up around my shoulders. I ended up sending her off with 230 pesos for about 3 hours. Not bad considering that was some of the best sex I’ve ever had. After a scotch and soda (sin ice), I was down for the count a little after 4 am. It is going to take me awhile to get used to the nighttime hours, normally I’m waking up at 5am, not going to bed.

Lumilla: 27 old natural blonde
Face: 3
Body: 7
Attitude: 8
Skills: 8
GFE: 7
Overall: 7
Photos: None desired

All in all not a bad first day considering how tired I was and the deviations from my original plans. My advice stay flexible. Contrary to the experiences of some as reported, so far my internet girls have been pretty satisfying, and I’ve had no trouble contacting them.

EZE J

Day Two (EZEamante’s adventures in paradise continue)

OK, as I mentioned in the report for day one, I had a nooner scheduled with Ally. The agreed upon price again was 100 pesos por hora, with no mention of taxi fare unlike my previous two girls. I will say a thank you to Jackson for the advice of never paying before a session; I honestly believe the girls perform better even without hinting at the offer of a propita. Thank God I gave her a second chance! Best experience yet, true to her photos, absolutely killer body. This girl is a stunner, and definitely has spent some quality time in a gym. Things are looking up, and I haven’t even been to a club yet. If a guy never wanted to leave his room, he would be fine here if the research is done before arrival. Anyway, back to my model. Nice tan all over, i.e. no lines. Her body is what I consider close to my ideal, 5’5” or thereabout, maybe 105 lbs., 35-24-25. Beautiful face, probably dyed blonde based on the limited shrubbery down south. She called more or less on time (within 15 minutes), and showed up an hour later. This time the guy at the desk agreed to just send her up. I’m always a little nervous when a girl’s face is not shown in her photo, but this girl had nothing to hide but her identity. She showed up wearing a nearly see through pink blouse that tied in front in four places, showing her nice abs, and a pair of tight, I mean can’t fit a finger in the waist, slacks and some really sexy black high heels. Very nice, obviously expensive, lingerie completed the package. I don’t think she was wearing any makeup, and imho, she damn sure didn’t need any. Her face lit up when I answered the door, and everything from there on was good, strike that, GREAT! From the first kiss to the last at the elevator, hell, I was almost hard just looking at her. I had decided before she arrived that I was only going to do an hour with her, but re-evaluated that decision when I saw she was a solid eight all the way around. Sparing some details, BBBJ (several times during what turned into a 3.5 hour session), dfk, cbj to completion, and two other completions in every position you can imagine. Imagine my pleasant surprise when she demonstrated her skill with her tongue, I don’t think she missed an inch on my body. She liked being on her knees during the bj’s, and kept looking to make sure I was looking. Of course as always ymmv, but this was a serious porn-star experience, with gfe thrown in the mix. Lots of good conversation between rounds, Ally is very passionate, and very affectionate. I am so glad I spent so much time prior to the trip studying Spanish. She was very complimentary of what I consider to be a sorrowfully limited vocabulario de espanol. Ally made me feel totally relaxed and comfortable. I will probably get the usual complaints from the guys who think it is a sin to tip too well, but I tipped her 50 pesos, and I still think she was a bargain. In the US… never mind there is no comparison.

Before I left home, I set a rule for myself for this trip: EZE’s Rule Numero Uno – No Repeat Sessions on my First Trip! I’m so weak, poor little rule numero uno didn’t last two days. This girl merits further investigation, so I’m going to schedule another afternoon with her on Saturday, and break my self imposed first trip rule of no repeat performances until trip two. She definitely was very vocal (sorry neighbors), and moaned especially nicely when I slipped my thumb in the back door just as she came. I asked if I could take some photos after round two, and she was definitely into it. The girl knows how to strike a pose, and even helped with lighting etc. I could have spent the entire day with Ally, and been a happy man. But, since I still haven’t left the room much and I have some shopping to do… Besides, housekeeping has knocked twice, it’s almost 5:00pm, and I’m out of towels, I even went through the extras I got last night.

At this point I want to mention that I planned well for setting the mood for these encounters, and it is paying dividends. I brought my laptop with external speakers, loaded with about 6 hours of bump and grind music. Scented candles set the stage for the Jacuzzi tub, living room, and three more in the bedroom. Each girl has been complimentary, and it has definitely enhanced the sessions, imho. I bought a converter to convert the 220 to 110 for the laptop, but found that it wasn’t the correct configuration for the outlets here (thanks a lot dumbshit radio shack clerk). No problema! The front desk was happy to provide a converter for a 20 peso deposit that they tacked on to my bill, apparently it will be removed from my bill when I return the converter on departure. It didn’t make sense to me, a deposit that doesn’t exist, oh well, nobody complaining here.

Tip: you can never have too much bottled water in your room. Fluid replacement is essential for extended sessions. Damn, I haven’t felt this much like a studly sex machine since the 23 year old girlfriend when I was in my mid thirties after my divorce.

Tip 2: Ask for more towels from the first maid you see. If you are going to have multiple daily sessions it is a must. I can’t remember when I showered more in a 24 hour period. I tipped the maid 5 pesos to leave muchas toallas.

Ally: aka Carol on Diosastop website, 25 years old, dyed blonde shoulder length hair
Face: solid 8 maybe 9
Body: same as face
Attitude: I don’t think it gets any better ymmv
Skills: Solid 9, knows her way around the cama, sofa, shower etc… you get the picture
GFE: 7 should be an eight, but who has a porn-star novia?
Overall Experience: If it gets any better, I won’t survive… solid 9 considering 10 doesn’t exist without true love, yeah yeah I know… romantico.
Photos: Many… I wish I could spend an entire afternoon taking her pictures

To be continued… in a past life I must have been very well behaved, life is so good!

Hasta luego
EZE J

Day Two Continued

I just completed my shopping expedition and I’m simply amazed. Being the true genius I am (sarcasm for those who didn’t recognize it), I forgot to pack black dress shoes, and I brought a great belt that goes well with jeans, go figure, it doesn’t exactly work with slacks, muy tonto. So, I needed to do a little clothes shopping. The guys at the front desk were very helpful arranging a taxi for me, while also explaining to the driver what I needed to buy. While I was waiting for the taxi, I explained to the desk clerks I was having trouble connecting to the internet in my room, and Don Pablo offered to help after my return. The taxi driver arrived and off we go to Ave. Santa Fe for some shopping. I know this is off topic, but where else in the world would a taxi driver that you’ve never met, not only takes you shopping and points out the better stores, but he then parks his taxi in a garage and goes with you to help you bargain for exactly the right size and item you want. Answer: nowhere I’ve ever been. This little expedition took well over an hour, and included the above items and a sport coat I spotted in one of the men’s stores. Cost of the jacket – 113 pesos tailoring included, nice dress shoes – 79 pesos, belts – 27 pesos. That’s a grand total of under $60 US for a suit jacket, dress shoes, two nice belts, and I had a personal negotiating agent that doubled as a taxi driver. Taxi fare was under 15 pesos, but as usual, I gave a nice tip.

It is now just past noon on day 3.

The guys at the front desk tried to help me establish a connection for my laptop, but at the time I’m writing this, still no luck. I’ll hit an internet café later. After dinner and relaxing in the room a bit, my plan was to go to Solid Gold, Playwoman, Hook, then Ness and Catoo’s. I made it as far as Playwoman, I’m really very weak when it comes to beautiful women. I got there a little after 11 pm, and when I arrived there were probably 30 chicas, mostly 5’s and 6’s, with a few 7’s, and only a half dozen or so customers. At Playwoman, I was greeted by the doorman who spoke excellent English. When I told him that this was my first time at the club, he patiently explained the rules about drink prices etc… I chose a table just past the bar and stage, and was very pleased with my waitress. I didn’t catch her name, but she is very tall, with sandy blonde hair, I’d guess around 19 or 20 years old, and easily (imho) the most beautiful girl I saw there. She did a lot of dancing in between taking orders, and if I had my wish, I would have taken her home with me. However, she was not on the menu, so I ordered a scotch and soda and she brought the bottle of scotch, a bottle of club soda, and a glass with ice, and then mixed the drink at my table. I wonder if that method of serving a mixed drink is normal in this city, or if it is unique to this club. Anyway, others have made it clear that the girls will not approach you in the clubs in BA, but that was not my experience last night. I tried to avoid making any serious eye contact so I could get a good look at all the ladies present, but within 5 minutes a cute little blonde, Andrea, had sat down without being invited, and basically glued herself to my side. I’ll give the girl an A for effort, because before she joined me, she had been dancing all around me trying to get my attention even when I thought I avoided looking at her directly. Regardless, she was very sweet and cute, 24 years old, and completely natural. She was very proud of the fact that she is a natural blonde with “no plastic” as she put it. I will say she has a very nice rack, but that is not the most important feature for me. I like long legs, and a tiny waist. Andrea has a nice figure, but her ass is a little large for my taste. She was so cute and bubbly, that I bought her a couple drinks, and talked with her for quite awhile even though I had no intention of taking her out of the club. She really did her best to convince me to take her out, constantly massaging my neck and leg, and leaning in very close to my ear every time she spoke. I may give her a chance some other night, but last night she was not what I was looking for. I finally got her to leave me alone when I told her I would prefer to stand at the bar to watch the stage show. While there, I spotted what looked to me in the dim light to be a 20 something brunette with a very nice shape and very pretty face. My waitress got the girl’s attention for me, and Karina joined me for a drink. Up close in that light she still looked good, so I decided she would be my evening’s entertainment. We agreed on 200 pesos for a short session, and left the club. I tipped the doorman 10 pesos, which I believe is customary here. Well… back at the hotel in good light, Karina was not what I consider a good find. I swear to you I only had two drinks, and barely felt the effects, but she is 29, not 21 or 22 like I thought, pretty, but far from beautiful. I will share almost none of the details of my session with her, because it was just slightly better than mediocre. When she took off her clothes, I saw she was wearing panty hose that made her figure look better than it actually is. She had horrendous stretch marks on her stomach, so I immediately extinguished all light sources. I will say she was a very good kisser, and was super enthusiastic during the bbbj to completion. I completed round 2, and took her down to the street to get a taxi. All in all, my first trip to Playwoman was not as good as it should have been, and I take the blame. Tonight, I will stick to water or a soft drink.

Karina: 29 years old, shoulder length brunette.
Face: 5 - pretty but not close to a stunner
Body: 3 enough said
Attitude: 7
Skills: 6
GFE: 6
Overall Experience: 5, I’m being kind, but she is a very nice girl, just not what I came to BA for.

I hit the sack around 5 am, exhausted as usual.

EZE J

Day Three (Quality time with the goddess)

I woke up feeling as exhausted as I had before going to bed, but I must persevere. I ordered breakfast americano in my room, with steak and eggs, and lots of espresso. Feeling slightly better, but still in need of 4 or 5 hours of sleep, I think jetlag has definitely kicked in. I decided against a trip to the Orleans Café, opting instead to return to my internet list. This time I chose a masagista on Gemidos (and Platynum I think), and once again she answered on my first call. She speaks almost no English, but we agreed on 100 p per hour, and she insisted that yes, she is the girl in the photo. In person she is simply beautiful, but I have a weakness for leggy brunettes with long hair. We arranged an appointment allowing me ample time for a shower, and a little more rest before she was due to arrive at around 2:30. Into my room strolls this statuesque goddess with legs up to heaven. Like all the girls I’ve brought to this suite, she went on at length complimenting the rooms, the atmosphere (muy romantico), and the mood music. Damn I love seeing their reaction to my preparation. In between rounds, she confirmed my guess that she is a part-time fashion model, doing runway shows. She gave me a nice massage to get things started, then just… incredible sex. Guys, if you like tall, thin, brown beauties, call this girl when you get here. Most definitely a great experience will be had. Forget that, I want this girl to myself!

Some of the details are, started with a cbj, to dfk (and I mean deep and wet), then daty for maybe a half hour. I would have gone on for as long as she wanted me to, with the sounds she made when she came (she claimed 3 times from just the daty), then she got on top and man, what a workout, she almost screamed (again, sorry to my neighbors). I was so tired, I couldn’t complete, but then she strips off the raincoat and lets me finish with her on her back por boca sin condom. I know this is sort of indiscreet, but this site isn’t about sparing too many details. The vision of this 21 year old beauty underneath me will keep me warm many a cold night this winter. So anyway, after round one some sweet gfe fondling, and conversation, round two very similar to round one, and I was totally spent. I was in dire need of sleep to recharge the battery for this evening’s fun. Before she left, she gave me her cell number, and I broke rule numero uno again, and asked her to return tomorrow. I’m going to take her to lunch, and try to get to know her better. I know she’s a pro, but it sure felt like a novia, and she didn’t act like a pro at all. Before you say it, no I’m not naïve, I know it’s about the money for her, but it’s good to meet a girl who obviously enjoys her work.

Tip: When you take the time to set the atmosphere, and please her first… you win. She seemed very happy when I asked if I could take her to lunch tomorrow to the restaurant of her choice.

Favorita: 21 years old, beautiful, tall, thin, long black hair and creamy skin
Face: a serious 8 imho, a smile that melts icebergs
Body: Hard body perfect, solid 8 maybe a 9
Attitude: Couldn’t possibly be any better, super friendly 9
Skills: 9, I don’t want to know how a girl this young learns those acrobatics and bbbj to die for.
GFE: Again 9, if you like kisses deep and wet, she’s an 11 on a scale of 10.
Overall Experience: Best ever… solid 9, I’m not usually this generous, God I love this town.
Photos: She only had time to pose for one today fully clothed (damn it), but she promised as many as I want tomorrow (could be a long afternoon).

If anybody that is familiar with the BA club scene is here right now, please contact me. I’d really like to do the clubs right, and I haven’t as yet. I’m staying at the Etoile, room 1007. Or, if you see a slightly overweight white guy with dark hair slicked back in a ponytail, feel free to introduce yourself. First round is on me, maybe even round two.

All for now… La Vida Loca es muy hermosa!

EZE J

EZE:
Wow... simply wow.

The url is:

http://www.gemidos.com.ar/rubro59/masajistas/venus/home.htm

EZE

Great posts. I cannot locate Carol (Ally) at Diosas Top under either escorts or messages. Is there another name?

EZE_amante,

Way to go amigo! I'm glad that you're doing Buenos Aires the way you planned it and are having a good time. There is something almost magical about that city. Great live updates and they are much appreciated for those of us that are itching to go back. I'll be back in a few weeks and reading your posts makes me realize how much I miss it.

Venus is a real cutie. Glad you're living the good life in BA. Life is truly good.

P.S. I can also attest to the friendliness of the local normal non-working chicas like EZE described on the plane. If you have any "game" at all it's easy to meet normal girls if that's your thing. I have several email addresses and phone numbers of some very good looking girls but BA has too many sure things for me to bother with. But if that is your thing don't hesitate to talk to the locals. They LOVE Americans.