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dickhead said that there is an inverse relationship between price and service.[/QUOTE]Absolutely.
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[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;447322]
dickhead said that there is an inverse relationship between price and service.[/QUOTE]Absolutely.
The best example of the inverse price/quality relationship was the late, lamented Fray Santa María Justo de Oro 2280. God, I loved that place. Sob. Q.E.P.D.
There are $125 to $150 places throughout Central and South America.
I paid that in Jaco, Bomboa in Sao Paulo, La Isla in Medellin, and La Piscina Norte in Bogota in the past seven months.
In all those towns except Jaco, the clinicas and casas are better options. In Jaco the standard ask price is $100 but some girls will go for $80. The chica that got $150 from me at Cocal was the best looking in the place in my opinion. When I countered with $100, she would just say that her amiga will go for $100. On my last night, I caved.
Madahos and Hippo's dancers were asking 1200 to 1500 pesos last time I was there in November 2012 when we were getting 6.10 P to $1. I remember because it was the night Toyman paid off Esten for the Obama election bet.
The sad part of it was that Hook was basically $100 an hour between 12 and 2 AM for the dancers before Hippo closed and there were always 6 or 8 dancers in the house worth taking out. Closer to closing time, I know guys who negotiated down. Sideline girls at Hook were cheaper.
Buenos Aires was really cheap between 2001 and 2006 after the currency crisis of 2001-2002. But in those days, the streets were dirty, pensioners were begging for money on street corners and the restaurants scene was less established. Buenos Aires is a better place to visit today than in 2003 despite the rise in cost of nightclub girls.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;447326]There are $125 to $150 places throughout Central and South America.
I paid that in Jaco, Bomboa in Sao Paulo, La Isla in Medellin, and La Piscina Norte in Bogota in the past seven months.
In all those towns except Jaco, the clinicas and casas are better options. In Jaco the standard ask price is $100 but some girls will go for $80. The chica that got $150 from me at Cocal was the best looking in the place in my opinion. When I countered with $100, she would just say that her amiga will go for $100. On my last night, I caved.
Madahos and Hippo's dancers were asking 1200 to 1500 pesos last time I was there in November 2012 when we were getting 6.10 P to $1. I remember because it was the night Toyman paid off Esten for the Obama election bet.
The sad part of it was that Hook was basically $100 an hour between 12 and 2 AM for the dancers before Hippo closed and there were always 6 or 8 dancers in the house worth taking out. Closer to closing time, I know guys who negotiated down. Sideline girls at Hook were cheaper.
Buenos Aires was really cheap between 2001 and 2006 after the currency crisis of 2001-2002. But in those days, the streets were dirty, pensioners were begging for money on street corners and the restaurants scene was less established. Buenos Aires is a better place to visit today than in 2003 despite the rise in cost of nightclub girls.[/QUOTE]What you are saying is true. There are also $10.000 dollar a night girls in the US. I think what we are trying to say is there are much better options. Granted, if you have one night in town and no connections and you just have to do it...... Then you might be stuck paying a high price. But if you have the time and the desire to work a little bit I think no matter where you go there are girls available for less money then in the the usual tourist traps.
BBM, good points. I made my first trip to Bs As in July '07, I can remember the exchange rate was AR$3.09/USD. A half hour at 1707 Ste Fe was AR$70 (~US$23) and an hour was AR$120 (US$39). Propina was AR$20 (~US$6) for BBBJ. I can also remember senior AP'ers complaining that they had raised their prices....
So, for US$30, you could get a romp and a bbbj with a decent chica.
Shoot, it's had to get out of the newsstand at the airport spending less than that.
[QUOTE=Gandolf50;447327]What you are saying is true. There are also $10.000 dollar a night girls in the US. I think what we are trying to say is there are much better options. Granted, if you have one night in town and no connections and you just have to do it...... Then you might be stuck paying a high price. But if you have the time and the desire to work a little bit I think no matter where you go there are girls available for less money then in the the usual tourist traps.[/QUOTE]It's exactly the same thing as 6 months ago, 12 months ago, 18 months ago.
2006 Hook chicks were 50 bucks, they stayed for several hours. I don't care what anybody else has to say about that, I know it because I paid it. Everything else here until recently has stayed pretty close to the same dollar price as 2006, we are probably 20% down right now and it sucks but it will adjust. Hook chicks don't charge locals 2500-3500 pesos, they charge that for guys with accents. A year ago the time v money guys were saying that "100 dollars is the standard price worldwide for club pussy" next they will be saying that 200 is. It's because they only do it part time and they just don't care. There was guy staying at the house one time, a guy I considered a friend. I told him about Mia's place, I told him, they will ask you for 100 bucks but you can get out for 50 or 60. His response? "I'll just pay them whatever they ask, I can't be bothered to say anything." When I told him he would be making it more difficult for those of us who live here? "I'm only here for a week, not my problem.".
It was the last hookup I gave out.
There is not much mention of Hook anymore but there was one post that illustrates the problem. One guy who I assume was local wrote that he went with Noelia in January 2015. She asked for 1500P and settled for 1000P. So the local guys were getting a 33% haircut. Noelia, if I am remembering right was a dancer with small breasts and incredible ass. I think she danced on the AP House once when I was there.
The same guy in January 2016 was asked for 2500P and it appears the chica would not discount. He wrote he went home, turned on and wanked off to xvideos.
So I remember In November 2014, I was paying $100 for an hour but mostly I would always take out for 2 hours. The girl would charge me $50 for for the second hour. Basically what I would do is pay in dollars for the hour and give her pesos for the second hour. She ended up saving the dollars to buy land.
In October 2015, I basically bought the same girl out of Hook for three weeks. That ran to around $3000 so the cost per orgasm was way above any of these prices we are mentioning. I happened to like this girl and still do. I send her Christmas and Birthday presents.
She told me that business was really slow at Hook in October 2015. She is now out of the business since December 2015 which doesn't mean of course that she might not be back some day. We are planning to meet in Europe this summer if schedules can match up and of course I will pay for it.
As one guy put it on the local forum, the Grand Epoch of nightclubs in Buenos Aires is over. Too bad. The nightclub girls were far hotter in BA than in Colombia in my opinion. However, Sao Paulo is better for nightclubs in my opinion but that is going to be a $200 to $400 night based on October 2015 experiences at Bomboa and Bahamas. I wish I had checked out Scandallo and Gauguin when I was there. Taxi costs in Sao Paulo are also horrendous.
I will probably be back in BA most likely January 2017.
This maybe branching outside of the Hook discussion. However, I think that this year ('16), you are going to see more American businessmen in Bs AS. During my 3-4 year stint of doing business in Argentina, it was fairly uncommon for me to meet American businessmen, seeking opportunity. There will be an influx of >$15B of foreign capital coming into Argentina, this year. Foreign guys with money to spend will be following that money.
Unfortunately, while good for my business that isn't good for mongering.
A question for you expats and guys who know chicas, personally. With all the clubs being closed, where are the girls (who would normally be in the clubs) making cash? I doubt many of them want to work harder. I would expect them to go to other venues or online.
[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;447336]It's exactly the same thing as 6 months ago, 12 months ago, 18 months ago.
2006 Hook chicks were 50 bucks, they stayed for several hours. I don't care what anybody else has to say about that, I know it because I paid it. Everything else here until recently has stayed pretty close to the same dollar price as 2006, we are probably 20% down right now and it sucks but it will adjust. Hook chicks don't charge locals 2500-3500 pesos, they charge that for guys with accents. A year ago the time v money guys were saying that "100 dollars is the standard price worldwide for club pussy" next they will be saying that 200 is. It's because they only do it part time and they just don't care. There was guy staying at the house one time, a guy I considered a friend. I told him about Mia's place, I told him, they will ask you for 100 bucks but you can get out for 50 or 60. His response? "I'll just pay them whatever they ask, I can't be bothered to say anything." When I told him he would be making it more difficult for those of us who live here? "I'm only here for a week, not my problem.".
It was the last hookup I gave out.[/QUOTE]Exactly my point...Visitors who over pay fuck it up for the local expats....The Argentinean don't pay anything like what we the expat community pay for the same pussy..because they haven't got the money.
If most locals are receiving a 500 pesos haircut in price, they also have to pay 300 pesos in telo charges at Tres Sargentos. Few would risk bringing a hooker over to the place that they live. I have experienced the very rare yelling scene with a girl I brought back to my place. Sometimes they want to put on loud music. The music in the clubs affects the hearing. I realize telo costs should not make a difference in negotiation between you and the girl but it narrows the overall advantage on what you spend for a night out.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;447344]If most locals are receiving a 500 pesos haircut in price, they also have to pay 300 pesos in telo charges at Tres Sargentos. Few would risk bringing a hooker over to the place that they live. I have experienced the very rare yelling scene with a girl I brought back to my place. Sometimes they want to put on loud music. The music in the clubs affects the hearing. I realize telo costs should not make a difference in negotiation between you and the girl but it narrows the overall advantage on what you spend for a night out.[/QUOTE]For a local, it is a difference. Out here in the boonies a lot of girls have their own place they work out of. For me, Id rather pay a girl 600p (todays avg +-) that works out of her house and not pay a hotel then the 500p or 600p plus the 200p (short time) or 350p (5 hours). For those of you here on vacation its not too much of a difference. But to those of us here that go out once or twice a week all year it does add up.
There is a girl that use to work at Hook that was :
Almost Cute.
Almost Blonde.
Almost Attractive and very highly recommended by numerous guys on this board.
( You can insert the name of just about any girl that has ever worked at Hook. ).
Would not go out for less than $200.00 dollars an hour about a year ago, Give or take.
Asked and received $500.00 one night.
Now -.
No longer attractive in any way.
Just had a child.
Too fat to work at Hook.
Working the street near and around Hook.
I wonder if she still sticks to her guns and demands $200.00 bones now ?
TL.
Too stupid to use birth control ?
How can she even guess who the father of the child is ?
The father is most likely her stupid boy friend. She probably made all of her customers wear a condom, but not the boy friend; however, she probably signs the welfare check over to her boy friend.
Tres3.
The internet is the way to go today. Hook up your google translator and do to town. Look in the locale foros or discussion groups like this site was a few yearts ago.use the translator to get a general idea as who is who and prices.
Get your smart phone going on wifi and sent translated texts. Then translate the texts you get back and play it by ear.
An easier way is to take one of the locale regulars out for a meal and promise to keep to the locale price range and they will either help you with the internet girls or introduce you. You must respect locale pricing.
To their local friends. You must repect their locale pricing rules or no will help you a second time.
Solo is the most expensive but easiest to navigate with a translator software.
[URL]http://www.soloindependientes.com/escorts-acompanantes.htm[/URL]
Discussion forum:
[URL]http://www.foroescortsar.com/foros/f109/[/URL]
Barries girls is owned by the same folks and their foro and website are larger and more challenging.
Happy trails,
Bob in miami.
Several weeks ago, I ran into another former Hook chica who sorta fit this description, except for the recent child part, and who in my opinion had one of the greatest asses ever to swivel around a pole at Hook.
Always had a good relationship with this girl and for old times sake, bought her a coffee (when Exedra still allowed chica guests).
She was grateful to get out of the cold and chat with a familiar face. One thing led to another and we went back to my place. After she got over her embarrassment over the weight she had recently put on, we had the kind of GFE sex that advertisements promise but never deliver.
Cost: 1000 pesos!
Great sex is not a commodity.
Great sex arises from personal chemistry and empathy, not the price you pay.
P.S. The next time you meet this girl, she's going to have her figure back, and you're going to be begging to pay her more.
[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;447368]There is a girl that use to work at Hook that was :
Almost Cute.
Almost Blonde.
Almost Attractive and very highly recommended by numerous guys on this board.
( You can insert the name of just about any girl that has ever worked at Hook. ).
Would not go out for less than $200.00 dollars an hour about a year ago, Give or take.
Asked and received $500.00 one night.
Now -.
No longer attractive in any way.
Just had a child.
Too fat to work at Hook.
Working the street near and around Hook.
I wonder if she still sticks to her guns and demands $200.00 bones now ?
TL.
Too stupid to use birth control ?
How can she even guess who the father of the child is ?[/QUOTE]
For the hell of it, I had a $250 peso drink tonight around 1 am, and the place was packed, though not many clients. There are a lot of big girls in there. There were some pretty girls, but attitude runs high, as do the take-out prices. Having to bargain down sort of spoils the romance and tends to cast doubt on performance. Passed.
In the past I have given good reviews to Hook. I will likely not go back anytime soon. Drinks were randomly priced. Same drink I paid 150 pesos for at MT came at price of 400 pesos here. I told bartender this was robbery but she said she already poured it. I told her it would be last drink she ever poured for me and that the nice tips I had always sent just dropped to zero. Ask the price before you order! I think they make it up as they go now. I am anything but cheap.....two trips ago on a slow night for kicks and grins I bought all the ladies a driink but that was when the cost has some relationship to sanity and maybe I was a bit tipsy. Not even sure I'll go back. I hope when the new place opens across the street they put hooks back in check. What a shame.
Pete.
Hook rhymes with crook. It has been ever thus, from the bartenders to the waiters to, at times, the chicas. I take the Nancy Reagan approach to this place: 'Just Say No!'.
I was in Hook last Saturday night around 1ish, and although there were far fewer chicas, there were still some stunners. I motioned to one to come sit with me and after a few pleasantries she got right down to business, i.e. "are we leaving??" I nodded in agreement until she said "$300 dollars", so I politely thanked her and moved on. After watching a great pole dance, I motioned for one of the dancers to sit with me. She was much warmer and kinder than the first chica, so I braced myself for the big question and she said 1500 pesos. Nothing like a happy ending... It's still much more than daytime apartment action, but I was really pleased with the result; so much so that I can't give out her name and I have her whatsapp. Suffice to say that the prices in Hook can vary wildly, so to quote the venerable DH, just say "No, gracias.".
I got in today at 0:45.
There were 17 chicas (about 6 from the Caribean) and 14 patrons (5 coreans). Music was not very loud (much softer than before the shut down). The 4 poles were being used.
Took out 2 chicas at 1:50.
Chica drink: AR$ 350 (Corona beer).
My drink: AR$ 250 (Gin-cola).
Chica 1: "Elizabeth", Paraguayan. Arrived in BsAs 6 months ago. Rather heavy paraguayan accent. Hook is her 1st boliche (she mentioned she worked before at a privado, but I did not understand whether it was in Asuncion or here). Fair skin, blonde hair (chemically assisted). One braid in the middle of her head, ending in a short pony-tyail. About 165 cm high. Says she enjoys sports, especiffically that she plays soccer in a club in Villa Urquiza neighborhood. Typical native American Paraguayan (guarani) eyes. An inch away from being fat, but on the good side. Was dancing on the pole and got my attention. After her stint, came close to my stool, but did not approach me directly. Waited untill I invited her. After a very short, polite and professional Q&A, I asked her to choose a girlfriend to come out with us (on the theory that good lesbian action starts with a pair of chicas that want to work / spend time together). So she produced Chica 2.
Chica 2: "Karen", also Paraguayan. Arrived in BsAs 6 years ago, "when I was 19". Thin, 168 cm tall. Brunet, long hair with no particular style, very fair skin. No trace of guarani blood. Not much of Paraguayan accent. Proudly declares to be a seasoned proffesional, has worked in Hook since she got here, knows the places (both extant and former) and the people.
AR$ 2.000 each.
Good (not terrific) lesbian action: enthousiastic (not passionate) french kissing, mutual masturbation, tit sucking, but not pussy eating.
They both took very good care of me, proactively, with imagination and a variety of resources. Quality oriented professionals. Elizabeth's super-ego drives her to do a very good job. Karen, on the other hand, also performs well, but in her case I believe it is more that she actually likes it. Next time I'll start the conversation with Karen and ask her to choose the second chica.
Long time ISG member new to this forum in preparation for my first trip to BA in two months. Very much appreciate fact filled and specific reports like this. Appreciate anything anyone can share with me in the forum or via PM. Will write a detailed report when I return (As I do on ISG).
[QUOTE=Local;447909]I got in today at 0:45.
There were 17 chicas (about 6 from the Caribean) and 14 patrons (5 coreans). Music was not very loud (much softer than before the shut down). The 4 poles were being used.
Took out 2 chicas at 1:50.
Chica drink: AR$ 350 (Corona beer).
My drink: AR$ 250 (Gin-cola).
Chica 1: "Elizabeth", Paraguayan. Arrived in BsAs 6 months ago. Rather heavy paraguayan accent Hook is her 1st boliche (she mentioned she worked before at a privado, but I did not understand whether it was in Asuncin or here). Fair skin, blonde hair (chemically assisted). One braid in the middle of her head, ending in a short pony-tyail. About 165 cm high. Says he enjoys sports, especiffically that he plays soccer in a club in Villa urquiza neighborhood. Typical native American Paraguayan (guaran) eyes. An inch away from being fat, but on the good side. Was dancing on the pole and got my attention. After her stint, came close to my stool, but did not approach me directly. Waited untill I invited her. After a very short, polite and professional Q&A, I asked her to choose a girlfriend to come out with us (on the theory that good lesbian action starts with a pair of chicas that want to work / spend time together). So she produced Chica 2.
Chica 2: "Karen", also Paraguayan. Arrived in BsAs 6 years ago, "when I was 19". Thin, 168 cm tall. Brunet, long hair with no particular style, very fair skin. No trace of guarani blood. Not much of Paraguayan accent. Proudly declares to be a seasoned proffesional, has worked in hook since she got here, knows the places (both extant and former) and the people.
AR$ 2.000 each.
Good (not terrific) lesbian action: enthousiastic (not passionate) french kissing, mutual masturbation, tit sucking, but not pussy eating.
They both took very good care of me, proactively, with imagination and a variety of resources. Quality oriented professionals. Elizabeth's super-ego drives her to do a very good job. Karen, on the other hand, also performs well, but in her case I believe it is more that she actually likes it. Next time I'll start the conversation with Karen and ask her to choose the second chica.[/QUOTE]
A frightful sense of impending doom took over me after reading about the initiative being discussed in the Legislature of the City of Buenos Aires to ban any and all chicas bars, similar joints and any other institution to the same effect (to understand what I'm referring to, please see the discussion on the thread "Legal attacks on hooker bars" of September 22 and 23, 2016).
Determined to fill my lungs with the air of places soon to be gone, and to engrave in my memory the images of what will be history, I anxiously drove to the (former) Triangle.
And with such motive and intent, I step into Hook Saturday 24, at 0:30.
I sat on a bar stool facing the poles, then I moved to the sofa next to the stage, then to the stools next to the cash register, then back to the sofa. Restless.
There were 20 girls, mostly Dominicans. About 15 would be clients.
A few girls got my attention, but nothing that prompted me to immediate action.
A petite Dominican dancing at the pole on the bar, with good rhythm, large breasts, seemed interesting to get to know better.
After she came down, a smile and nod was al she needed to sit at my side. This is Marlene, almost 100% African descent, about 153 cm tall, natural-looking, surgically-enhanced boobs (later to be known they cost her AR$ 30,000 in 2014, let's say about US$ 3,500). Not a trace of fat anywhere (I'll have to attribute this to a combination of genetics, eating discipline and at least some exercising, as any one factor seems insufficient). Very nice butt. As she talked, a multitude of bright, clean, white teeth seemed to fight to get out of her mouth, so many of them were there. Later I'd learn that she arrived in Buenos Aires 5 years ago, lives in Barrio Norte but not the posh section-, and has 2 little girls (that her body was pregnant twice defies my comprehension).
"What do you like to do?" I interrogated her, code for "what do you do not do?". Her answer: "A little bit of everything" is a good summary of my own philosophy, so we had a match. Now all we needed was a third one. I asked her to present me options. She looked around, a little worried that what seemed to be a sure sale was now potentially one or two steps back as the client was still shopping (I love this moments). She saw no one that would fit the asking, she stood up and left to the tables area, and after a couple of minutes (had she to take the other chica out of a table? I could not see from the sofa), she came with chica 2: Angelina / Angie.
Angie is a little taller (155 cm tall?), Argentine to the bones (born and raised in Ciudad Evita, those who know, there is no need to say more, and for those who don't, I'm sorry but there is not enough space in the server to host all the data). Lets just say that Angie has her name tattoed on the back, is not particularly well built, but not unpleasant to the eye. She did not mentioned it, but it's obvious she's a mother. Fair skin, natural brunet with traces of dyed blond hair. Her tits are that: tits. Little things about to hang from her chest. Big, dark nipples. She says she's saving for the implants for which she has been quoted AR$ 60.000 (Marlene thinks that is too much, but maybe not as the implants themselves are priced in US$). At one point, we got into a discussion on what size and style of implants will suit Angie best. She preferred rather big and balloon style (self supporting) because she acknowledges she has a rather large shoulders (in relation to her height). Angie also laughs a lot. She has a deep voice that remained me of the old tango Argentine movies.
The two ladies seemed to get along pretty well between them and were in a uplift mood, so we discussed pricing. We settled in AR$ 2.000 for each, but only after a protracted discussion, that for a moment was really harsh. But after the number was set, bygones are bygones, and we all left Hook in good spirit. [note: my drink AR$ 250, chicha drink AR$ 350]
In my car to the short term hotel on Anchorena street, right across the swingers club.
At the check-in, the girls asked for matches or a lighter to the guy at the counter. Professionally, he replied that he had none and that they should not be asking for it, as smoking was forbidden. I suggested we get out to buy a lighter at a nearby kiosk (which was open). The man went into the office and came back with his own lighter. "Here you are" he offered it to Marlene, "you can light your cigarette here". "It's not a cigarette", said Marlene, as she grabbed the lighter and headed to our room. Once in, Angie produced a marijuana joint that they both shared. I don't smoke (tobacco or anything else), and don't generally like chicas to smoke while on service. But I did not interfere. The joint was very thin and short, so it was gone in a minute. By then, we had already received beers and an extra set of towels, so we all proceeded to the shower.
And now, after all the unnecessary preceding gibberish, let me put this short and simple: what an extraordinary threesome unfolded. If there are still encyclopedias out there that define sex as something between two persons, they better start correcting now. Three people interacting physically with each other, uninterruptedly, in constant motion, no body part untouched.
If any reader is asking "Did you do this... or that..." , the answer most probably is "yes". I did come with a condom on, which is my preference.
That was it, nothing more to tell about this experience. I drove them both back to Hook, as I was still to continue in the area (see my other posts on this night). It was shortly before 3:00.
After leaving Marlene and Angie at Hook, I went to 977 Marcelo T De Alvear, from which I exit 1 minute later. I double checked that Ness was dead close, and at 3:10, I went back to Hook.
The paragraph above is a very sad, very sad indeed, but accurate description of the lousy state of affairs the City of Buenos Aires has fallen into in respect to night mongering.
Anyway, down the stairs in Hook again. Marlene was already doing the pole and Angie trying to get a client moving.
There were like 10 / 12 clients and about 8 chicas, a couple already in street clothes.
I decided to concentrate on a tall Dominican dancing on the stage. She was the most noticeable chica in Hook that night. I did not pay attention to her earlier because she is not particularly my type, but now I wanted a try.
She is Bella, 100% African descent, 175 cm tall, implanted boobs (a very bad quality job, as the implants fell below the nipples, which ended pointing rather upwards as a missile launcher on a Navy ship). Other than the bad implants / nipple thing, she has the body of an athlete. Long, curly hair, decorated with traces of blond dye.
We went right to the point (not much to discuss at 3:30), and upon my suggestion she brought in chica 2: Cindy. Bella introduced Cindy with an opening that later would have a deeper meaning: "she really knows how to do things".
Cindy is also Dominican, mix raced, about 150-ish cm tall, straight hair also with traces of blond dye. No boobs job. She proudly displays her natural mini-tits. Cindys distinctive trait is a 2.5 mm wide gap between her two front teeth.
Reflecting the underlying economics of the night, we easily settled on AR$ 1,500 each. I was rather surprised to see that the chica drink had fallen from AR$ 350 (see my prior post below) to AR$ 250.
Back to Anchorena street, and into the action. No weed this time.
What developed? Not much. It was decisively not a threesome. Just two women trying to please a man. Bella is completely worthless. It's a miracle how she's been able to survive in this business the 4 years she claims to have been in Buenos Aires. I guess she just gets paid to show her magnificent body (pity the lousy boob job).
Cindy is different story. A consummate, dedicated professional. She, I can see how she's making a living. It took me only two minutes to realize what the situation was, and I put myself completely in the hands (a figure of speech) of Cindy, and all went well. In the end, Bella tried to redeem herself with some massage, which was Ok.
I gave both an extra AR$ 200 for the taxi, left them on the corner of Anchorena and Santa Fe, and drove away after checking that they safely took a cab.
Date: Monday, November 11th.
Time: 23:40.
12 chicas.
4 clients.
None at the poles.
Zero excitement.
At midnight a dedicated dancer (excellent body and face) climbed to one of the poles on the bar, and left Hook after her dancing. First time I noticed a dedicated dancer in Hook (meaning a girl that is there only for the dances).
Other chicas started doing the poles and more clients got in, so at 0:30 there was a little more enthusiasm.
Chatted for a while with Marlen (please see my report of September 25th in this thread). She is now sporting perfectly straight hair, with touches of blond (dyed).
I left with Grisell and Sofi. I could see it was a poor choice and the service was not going to be something to remember, but still I wanted to try.
Grisell: brunette, 173 cm tall, reasonably thin, 35-ish, originally from Corrientes province, native American (Paraguayan) eyes.
Sofi: thin blond hair, 164 cm tall, chubby, BBW, distinctive Slavic traits, would look perfectly in place in a Moscow subway station, but her accent betrays her as coming from Paraguay or the Northeast of Argentina. 35+.
AR$ 1.500 each (both my drink and their drinks cost AR$ 250, parity of drink prices I guess is part of the legal defense against the threat of shut down, futile effort IMHO).
Very poor service, not even BBBJ (and I had taken a shower before we started). And it did not improve from there.
I did enjoy Sofi’s massage afterwards as I was really tired. I don’t know what Grisell was doing at that time.
We left in the same direction (neither was going back to Hook, although it was relatively early and they could have bid for a second engagement in the night), so I offered to share the cab. In the conversation, Sofi commented that the talk in Hook was that closure was to happened at the end of November, early December tops. “What’s your plan then” I asked. And she said she was going, as every year, to spend a few months in Miami. “Do you get to work there?”. Yes, she said, I dance at strip clubs, I work (as hooker), I do things. “Don’t the strip clubs ask you for a green card?”, No, only a couple of clubs that are affiliates of NYC clubs do. In NY or Vegas they ask you your papers. In most clubs in Miami they don’t and it’s Ok.
So there you go: another case of an international independent sex worker.
Good info Local. That might explain why Tootsies in Miami has so much latin talent (so I´ve heard). I will get there someday.
Hook Tuesday around midnight about 10 chicas and 3 customers.
Hook Wednesday a little later about 20 chicas and 10 guys. Much more happening. Pole dancing X4.
Quality not the best I have seen here. Most in the 7-8 range. A couple maybe 8.5 and one I would round up to a 9. Who I took out both nights. Amazing body and service, blew my mind. More on that later.
My drink was 250 both nights, and the chicas drink was 300 and 350 (both different drinks than mine). Chica wanted 2500 but after some persistence on my part, agreed on 2000 and promise of tip for good service.
The limited intel I got was there is no imminent closing.
Hook Thursday and Friday more than half full, with one night (cant remember which one) a bit of a sausage fest with just a few girls (I imagine several had already been taken). Quality was still good, though only a handful I would do each night. Saturday night was slower with maybe 15 chicas and 7 guys.
Some of the dancers the past three nights were amazing. One a couple nights ago, I think her name is Priscilla, is just like one of those tall dark-haired goddesses who used to dance at Black. She didnt make much eye contact though, and may not be available. Another brunette last night could be a Victoria Secret model. A notch down, blond Clara good looking with a great body, she is available but did not warm up to her during our brief chat.
Hook is closed by legal order. So say the notices stuck on its door. The guy in the parking across the street told me it was the Coast Guard ("Prefectura") which is often used to enforce court orders or other duties normally asigned to the police, when the judges do not trust the police to be fully cooperative. Ness is in the same situation.
I got it from a pretty reliable source, (chick who works there) that Hook will be reopening tonight at the club next door called "Keep.".
F'n brilliant lol.
[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;448359]I got it from a pretty reliable source, (chick who works there) that Hook will be reopening tonight at the club next door called "Keep.".[/QUOTE]There is a high probability that Hook is going to reopen directly next door in the new place named Keep because Hook is sealed up tight like a shark's ass and that's watertight !
The entire building that is above Hook is a national and cultural architectural treasure and it is being completely remodeled .
And I love it .
The building is in all of the coffee table architectural books in Buenos Aires as one of the best examples of Art Nouveau in town.
Outstanding .
It's been an orthodontists clinic upstairs and a cathouse downstairs for many many years so either way you were going to get drilled.
Happy Trails,
TL.
Suipacha 936/40.
Buenos Aires.
[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;448397]There is a high probability that Hook is going to reopen directly next door in the new place named Keep because Hook is sealed up tight like a shark's ass and that's watertight !
The entire building that is above Hook is a national and cultural architectural treasure and it is being completely remodeled .
And I love it .
The building is in all of the coffee table architectural books in Buenos Aires as one of the best examples of Art Nouveau in town.
Outstanding .
It's been an orthodontists clinic upstairs and a cathouse downstairs for many many years so either way you were going to get drilled.
Happy Trails,
TL.
Suipacha 936/40.
Buenos Aires.[/QUOTE]TL, Keep opened up two days after Hook was closed, I posted it below.
[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;448399]TL, Keep opened up two days after Hook was closed, I posted it below.[/QUOTE]A peso short too!
THANKS and have a very Happy and Prosperous New Year !
TL.
[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;448397]
The entire building that is above Hook is a national and cultural architectural treasure and it is being completely remodeled .
And I love it .
The building is in all of the coffee table architectural books in Buenos Aires as one of the best examples of Art Nouveau in town.
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I just spent a week with an ex-Hook dancer in Playa Del Carmen. One night we went to dance club called Coco Boingo. The manager of the nightclub picked the ex-Hook dancer out of the crowd and let her dance on a high perch with the spotlight shining on her right in front of the Deejay for about 20 or 30 minutes. She still looks good wearing her little black dress. To be fair, three or four other girls we also chosen at different times. But I think the manager was definitely going for atmosphere.
For me, Hook did not really have the best looking dancers but it definitely had the best price point if you were going to take a dancer out of the club. The Hook dancers tended to be petite. The Madahos and Hippo dancers tended to be leggier but I always heard it was a $1000 so I never took one out of the club.
As Springsteen once sang, "Glory days. They will pass you by.".
That manager has an eye for talent. One of the top ex-Hook dancers on the stage at Coco Bongo in PDC, got to love it.
Hi to all. Its almost two years since I have been in BA and I do miss it lots. From what I read Keep and Marcelo T + 1-2 others clubs are still open for business.
Can some one confirm this pl?? If Keep is open and has a positive report, thats what I need to hear, to encourage me to return.
Best wishes.
Pedroinba.
[QUOTE=Pedroinba;450036]Hi to all. Its almost two years since I have been in BA and I do miss it lots. From what I read Keep and Marcelo T + 1-2 others clubs are still open for business.
Can some one confirm this pl?? If Keep is open and has a positive report, thats what I need to hear, to encourage me to return.
Best wishes.
Pedroinba.[/QUOTE]The 2 Bars are OPEN and the bar called Nuevo Estilo or Pampita with the excellent selection of Helpers is Closed but those girls are now at Keep and 977 !
Later,
TL.
[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;450037]The 2 Bars are OPEN and the bar called Nuevo Estilo or Pampita with the excellent selection of Helpers is Closed but those girls are now at Keep and 977 !
Later,
TL.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feed back TL. I will be booking my ticket for July.
Best wishes.
Pedro.
[QUOTE=Pedroinba;450039]Thanks for the feed back TL. I will be booking my ticket for July.
Best wishes.
Pedro.[/QUOTE]Hey Pedro if your looking to monger check out Columbia, I was in Medellin for 2 weeks and the cost of living is nearly half the of B.A.
Columbia is much better in all most all ways, Airfare, lodging, food, climate, chica looks, skills, and most of all price. Mongering cost is on average $50 US, B.A.(Exedra) around $100 US.
Check out.
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