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For Obama to claim that businesses owe their success to the government because the government built roads and infrastructure emphasizes Obama's ignorance of the economy. The government did not build those roads and infrastructure. The private sector built those roads and infrastructure with the taxes they paid. Obama has crashed through the imbecile category into the idiot category. For Obama we need a new classification for what is below idiot.
Raving Lunatic in Chief is my suggestion. Those comments last week in virginia were classic and unplugged. Sometimes even a seasoned liar lets his true feeling be known.
Ps. Newbie Snakeboy, this is the political thread dude. If ya can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen. It's all in fun anyway. Whats your problem? Is this thread not politically correct enough and offends your sensibilities? IALOTFLMAO. Crawl back under your wild-ass liberal rock. Based on your posts you are just a liberal political shill anyway. LMAO. Toymann.
Pps. Jackson. Jackson. Toymann is being bad. Waah waah. Too funny!
Because he was making Racist remarks about Obama.
Plus Rush is the leader of the Republican Party. What he says goes.
[QUOTE=Jackson; 424136]I didn't know that Rush Limbaugh was running for president.
If he's not, then what the fuck does this have to do with the title of this thread "2012 Elections in the USA"?
Thanks,
Jackson[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;424152]Plus Rush is the leader of the Republican Party. What he says goes.[/QUOTE]Your position as the village idiot is already set in stone dude. Please stop with the crazy bizarre statements. Both parties have extremes but all groups follow the normal distribution with regard to membership. Ever heard of a blue dog dude? You'd hate those guys, kick them out of YOUR party and claim they are republicans in liberal clothing. Better to be thought a fool and remain silent fella. For a guy that bitched about this thread for years, not sure why you post here. Your comments are even more extreme than Esten. LMAO! Give Nancy a kiss for me. Happy Mongering All. Toymann
When it comes to leg work, checking out the privados and letting all of us know what the scoop is. For that we are all grateful. However, I believe that in this case, you are mistaken. I believe Rush posts the entire, unedited transcript from each show on his website, so it shouldn't be too hard to provide a few quotes to make your point.
I like to consider myself a decent reader of the tea leaves, my 2008-2009 posts on this very subject might be worth reviewing but, I'll save you the work. The only racist in this presidential cycle is Obama, who also happens to be a Marxist. While debating social-democrat policies, over cafe and demi-lunas is great fun, in practice, Marxism and the command economy have never, in the history of mankind, worked. However, during the last 100 years or so, followers of such philosophies have murdered over 110 million, of their own people, trying to make those flawed policies work. During that same period, racism killed significantly fewer. If over 100 million murders isn't enough to convince some people that Marxism and communist theory are fallacies, nothing will.
Monger on.
This election, which looked like a slam dunk for Romney, is now up in the air. Time to dust off Hilary Clinton or, god forbid, Biden. Sheriff Joe has determined without a shadow of a doubt that Obama's so called birth certificate is a computer generated fraud. Not surprising considering that everything else about Obama is a fraud.
Most of my posts were based on the News Media, the charts, etc.
What the fuck have you posted except attacks.
Where are your facts?
None posted!
You sound more like the Pit Bull of this thread. Attack, no brains.
[QUOTE=Toymann;424154]Your position as the village idiot is already set in stone dude. Please stop with the crazy bizarre statements. Both parties have extremes but all groups follow the normal distribution with regard to membership. Ever heard of a blue dog dude? You'd hate those guys, kick them out of YOUR party and claim they are republicans in liberal clothing. Better to be thought a fool and remain silent fella. For a guy that bitched about this thread for years, not sure why you post here. Your comments are even more extreme than Esten. LMAO! Give Nancy a kiss for me. Happy Mongering All. Toymann[/QUOTE]
Fantasy land will be here, your real life is better this is just an illousion. Besides I think the place is going to blow up this year. Wait tilll after the riots and anger are done then swoop in with a fist full of dollars.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 424152]Because he was making Racist remarks about Obama.
Plus Rush is the leader of the Republican Party. What he says goes.[/QUOTE]Suggest you reread your posting history dude. It pretty much speaks for itself! The fact you copy and paste liberal dribble from known biased sources is fine. Kinda reminds me of another retired monger your age. LOL. At the end of the day it is just spam. I have heard your positions on vietnam, republicans, unions, travel history, etc. Etc. You have no idea how extreme most of your commentary is, thus the village idiot title. But fear not, I have had my say and will now let you howl at the moon unfettered until November. Tick Tick Tick. It's all good. Funny how you haven't commented on Obomantion's wild remarks in virginia last weekend. I am sure you feel the same way that the government is responsible for all good things in america, especially small business success and innovation. IALOTFLMAO! It is obvious from your posts that you never valued your employer and only idiolized your union handlers. Please explain why union enrollment is at a 100 year low right now and that most states are now breaking the unions. Maybe they have outlived their value, excpet maybe a source of democratic party funding. Get ready for a huge dissapontment dude. The USA will not choose socialism over capitalism at the end of the day. Happy Mongering All. Toymann.
Ps. Surprised at your last comment El Alamo. Last weekends statements by Obama in virginia most likely was his John Kerry moment. Don't fret about what Romney is doing in July. He is laying in the reeds waiting to define Obama for what he is, another village idiot. If I was him I would not be wasting my ammunition so early in the fight. You will see the pressure go up dramatically after the convention in August. This game is all about September and October. After last weekend it appears that Obomanation, off tele-prompter might as well join the GOP super-pac. LMAO.
Toymann.
I have no doubt that Romney will win the election if Obama is the opponent. I am not sure Obama will be on the ticket. It is only a matter of time that it is determined that Obama is a fraud and that Obama was not born in the united states and that Obama was an idiot in college and is still an idiot.
[url]http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Obama[/url]+birth+certificate&qpvt=Obama+birth+certificate&FORM=IGRE.
McCain was born in Panama. When did that country become a State. Where is his Birth Certificate. How come nobody cared? He's White.
[QUOTE=El Alamo;424160]This election, which looked like a slam dunk for Romney, is now up in the air. Time to dust off Hilary Clinton or, god forbid, Biden. Sheriff Joe has determined without a shadow of a doubt that Obama's so called birth certificate is a computer generated fraud. Not surprising considering that everything else about Obama is a fraud.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.cnbc.com/id/47678760/?Is_Obama_a_Socialist[/url]
[QUOTE=Wild Walleye; 424159]When it comes to leg work, checking out the privados and letting all of us know what the scoop is. For that we are all grateful. However, I believe that in this case, you are mistaken. I believe Rush posts the entire, unedited transcript from each show on his website, so it shouldn't be too hard to provide a few quotes to make your point.
I like to consider myself a decent reader of the tea leaves, my 2008-2009 posts on this very subject might be worth reviewing but, I'll save you the work. The only racist in this presidential cycle is Obama, [b]who also happens to be a Marxist[/b]. While debating social-democrat policies, over cafe and demi-lunas is great fun, in practice, Marxism and the command economy have never, in the history of mankind, worked. However, during the last 100 years or so, followers of such philosophies have murdered over 110 million, of their own people, trying to make those flawed policies work. During that same period, racism killed significantly fewer. If over 100 million murders isn't enough to convince some people that Marxism and communist theory are fallacies, nothing will.
Monger on.[/QUOTE]
WT.
I think the Supreme Court decided long ago that if you were born in a country that starts with the letter P (Panama) you are eligible to run for the presidency. The letters K and I (Kenya and Indonesia) are no-no's. Just bad luck for Obama.
Current Democrat / Obama strategy is for Team Obama to smear Romney to the point he is untouchable by the time the convention rolls around. Team Obama is hoping by going so vastly negative early he can destroy Romney and still have time to come back to 'Mr Nice Guy' in the last month of the campaign and recoup his dignity. Problem for Obama is they have thrown everything but the kitchen sink at Romney but it's not working and the polls have not changed a bit.
I can guarantee you after Team Obama wages nearly two months of false and malicious highly negative campaigning, coupled with his class warfare mantra, his outright lies about raising taxes and the deficit, come late August or early September Team Romney is going to ram Obama's own words in graphic detail regarding 'Hope & Change', 'a Uniter not a Divider', 'the most transparent administration' and all the other lies and platitudes from Obama's 2008 campaign right up Obama's ASS!
Obama would Fu-k up a rock.
The kind that had you feeling like million bucks!
Early riser at 5 am. Turn on CNBC, made a cup of Colombian instant coffee. 2nd cup came with sliced multigrain bread, spicy moroccan sardines in olive oil, salami & tomato slices, olives, finished with fresh juicy pineapple and papaya. Self service, no butler / maid.
At 7 am, put on my tennis shorts, strolled to the courts. Smiles and acknowlegments from security guards, students, street vendors, monks and commuters. Not all of them, of course, many were preoccupied with quarrels, tests, payments, & erections & election thoughts. Several ladies did catch my eyes, my mind unclothed them and had them sprawled and splayed in embarrasing positions. Then, 3 hours of doubles, courts, balls, ice & water for 100 baht ($3. 30). What a deal! Post tennis wine and snacks was a treat from fellow players, great hour of socialization and trying to solve the world's problems. No end result.
Walked home, took a shower, then a taxi (110 baht) to my favorite massage spa. Manicure & pedicure, followed by 1 hour of body oil massage(500 bhat or $17). Stripped, took another quick shower, and layed under the towel. My masseuse was big- boned girl, not fat, about 30 with large strong hands, perfect. Started faced down, my skinny muscles felt good as her strong experienced hands did their job. Turned around and as her hand slide up and down my aching thighs, with a slight brush to the genitals, my frog started to stir. My exploring hands caressed her bottoms, no admonishment or resistance, I unbuttoned her pants, and my fingers found the wet oyster. 500 baht for a HJ and 1000 baht for everything else. My-Oh-My, Al Gore never had it so good. It was a non-sexual spa, with curtains as a doorway to the room. In the silence, I did hear "oh, my god", and after the twitches and spasms, she smiled and mouthed the word "good".
The traditional tea, the payment to mama-san, and the tip at the door to legitimize the spa session. It was good session for me, and I know she enjoyed it, too. I know the 1000 bhat would go a long way for her for her daily needs. Outside, on the sidewalk, was a food stall set up just for lunch serving southern muslim food, chicken briyani (cumin spiced rice / chicken with fried shallots and cucumbers. Extra order of fresh salad with potato and egg slices ran the bill to 70 baht ($2. 25) , perfect for a post-coital recovery.
Taxi home, somemore coffee, watch some tv, read the paper and found that $250, 000 is not considered rich in America. As my head started to nod and my eyes started to close, I said to myself, "just give $25, 000 and I will make you feel like Donald Trump".
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69; 424171][url]http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Obama[/url]
+birth+certificate&qpvt=Obama+birth+certificate&FORM=IGRE.
McCain was born in Panama. When did that country become a State. Where is his Birth Certificate. How come nobody cared? He's White.[/QUOTE]WT,
First, I wasn't aware that Senator McCain was running for President.
Second, McCain was born in Panama while his father was assigned there on a US military tour of duty.
Children born by US government officials or members of the military on official assignment anywhere in the world are by law US Citizens.
Get it?
It would be beneficial to everyone if you would do just a modicum of research before you regurgitate these liberal talking points.
Thanks,
Jackson
[QUOTE=Jackson; 424179]WT,
First, I wasn't aware that Senator McCain was running for President.
Second, McCain was born in Panama while his father was assigned there on a US military tour of duty.
Children born by US government officials or members of the military on official assignment anywhere in the world are by law US Citizens.
Get it?
It would be beneficial to everyone if you would do just a modicum of research before you regurgitate these liberal talking points.
Thanks,
Jackson[/QUOTE]I watched a kid during his year long appeal on being deported to Panama; his appeal was based on the fact that he was born on a US Military base and that made him an American Citizen
I thought you had to be born ON the US Military Base or on the US Embassy's property for you to be considered an American?
Was the Panama Canal itself ever an American property?
Even leased?
We built and paid for that mosquito, drug money and Colombian Hooker infested Slit of sludge! Paid with Malaria!
McCain is too old to run again!
In essence we would be voting for his running mate knowing that he is bound to kick the bucket soon.
Any ideas on who would be an instant hit with Romney?
TL
But, He was still born in Panama.
[QUOTE=Jackson; 424179]WT,
First, I wasn't aware that Senator McCain was running for President.
Second, McCain was born in Panama while his father was assigned there on a US military tour of duty.
Children born by US government officials or members of the military on official assignment anywhere in the world are by law US Citizens.
Get it?
It would be beneficial to everyone if you would do just a modicum of research before you regurgitate these liberal talking points.
Thanks,
Jackson[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;424182]But, He was still born in Panama.[/QUOTE]So what, who gives a f*ck?
A lesson in irony.
The Food Stamp Program, administered by the USA Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the USA Department of the Interior, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the Animals."
Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.
This ends today's lesson.
[QUOTE=Gato Hunter;424164]Fantasy land will be here, your real life is better this is just an illousion. Besides I think the place is going to blow up this year. Wait tilll after the riots and anger are done then swoop in with a fist full of dollars.[/QUOTE]Gh, are you referring to the US or Argentina? 2013 should be the earliest for the US.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;424182]But, He was still born in Panama.[/QUOTE]WT, JM was born on a US military base. A US military base is considered US soil. Hence, he was born in the US. I believe that you can be born on US soil anywhere in the world and be considered a US citizen. BO still needs to explain how he attended college on a foreign national scholarship. I don't believe those scholarships are available to US citizens.
No one can claim that Obama has his priorities wrong. As a gift to his buddy Leonard Dicaprio of Titanic fame Obama personally approved a $529 million dollar stimulus loan to build a luxury hybrid sports sedan known as Karma. This sports sedan was assembled in Finland without employing a single American worker. The only car assembled was given to Leonard Dicaprio. Obama's comment was that $529 million dollars was a small price to pay if Leonard would hold some Hollywood fundraisers for the Obama campaign. Wonder how much of our money Obama has given George Clooney, Brad Pitt and Barbara Streisand.
On an upbeat note, maybe Streisand will make good on her promise to leave the country if Obama loses the election which appears to be a foregone conclusion. There is a rumor that Streisand expects Obama to lose the election and is demanding that Obama use stimulus money to build a chateau on the French Riviera for guess who.
[QUOTE=El Alamo; 424188]No one can claim that Obama has his priorities wrong. As a gift to his buddy Leonard Dicaprio of Titanic fame Obama personally approved a $529 million dollar stimulus loan to build a luxury hybrid sports sedan known as Karma. This sports sedan was assembled in Finland without employing a single American worker. The only car assembled was given to Leonard Dicaprio. Obama's comment was that $529 million dollars was a small price to pay if Leonard would hold some Hollywood fundraisers for the Obama campaign. Wonder how much of our money Obama has given George Clooney, Brad Pitt and Barbara Streisand.
On an upbeat note, maybe Streisand will make good on her promise to leave the country if Obama loses the election which appears to be a foregone conclusion.[/QUOTE]Why do you think BO is going to lose the election? BO is still leading in the swing states and he has a huge cushion of swing states he can afford lose, whereas MR has to win almost every single swing state. My opinion is that BO is still heavily favored to win the election. I can normally call an election 8months-1year in advance, but I wouldn't touch this election even in the last week of October. There are too many variables in the world that can swing this election one way or the other.
[QUOTE=Dccpa;424189]Why do you think BO is going to lose the election? BO is still leading in the swing states and he has a huge cushion of swing states he can afford lose, whereas MR has to win almost every single swing state. My opinion is that BO is still heavily favored to win the election. I can normally call an election 8months-1year in advance, but I wouldn't touch this election even in the last week of October. There are too many variables in the world that can swing this election one way or the other.[/QUOTE]Last time around, Obama won a narrow victory, although it was never reported that way in the press. Since that time, could you please identify one or more demographic constituencies with which his popularity has increased? I can name a few where his popularity has decreased, such as women, Jews, independents, hispanics, blacks and the list goes on. We are looking at a landslide that should give Dukakis and Carter some company on the list of all-time biggest losers. At the end of the day, millions of Americans are having to face the fact that in 2008, for whatever reason, they cast their votes for someone who hates this country, what it stands for and what made it great. Millions of Americans will not make that mistake twice. The numbers are not working in favor of our Glorious Leader, look for Marshall Law to be imposed in October.
[QUOTE=Dccpa;424189]My opinion is that BO is still heavily favored to win the election. I can normally call an election 8months-1year in advance, but I wouldn't touch this election even in the last week of October. There are too many variables in the world that can swing this election one way or the other.[/QUOTE]According to people who put their money where their mouths are, Obama has a 58% probability of winning:
[url]http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474[/url]
Every sentence and every word are highly logical and reflective of the poster's intelligence. Well-done.
[QUOTE=Wild Walleye;424213]Last time around, Obama won a narrow victory, although it was never reported that way in the press. Since that time, could you please identify one or more demographic constituencies with which his popularity has increased? I can name a few where his popularity has decreased, such as women, Jews, independents, hispanics, blacks and the list goes on. We are looking at a landslide that should give Dukakis and Carter some company on the list of all-time biggest losers. At the end of the day, millions of Americans are having to face the fact that in 2008, for whatever reason, they cast their votes for someone who hates this country, what it stands for and what made it great. Millions of Americans will not make that mistake twice. The numbers are not working in favor of our Glorious Leader, look for Marshall Law to be imposed in October.[/QUOTE]
Team Obama is trying to knockout Romney before the convention and have thrown everything but the kitchen sink at him for the past month. Team Obama is hoping to after going super negative on Romney three months straight they can turn back to Mr Nice Guy just before the election to make Obama look better. For everything Team Obama has tried they have failed miserably to affect the poll numbers which have remained the same while at the same time folks are starting to get tired of all his negative crap.
Obama is his own worst enemy. A few more 'raise taxes', 'the middle class is doing OK', and this latest blunder 'you didn't build that' will further reduce his chances.
I can guarantee you after the Republican Convention Team Romney is going to start shoving Obama's own words, not only the recent screw-ups but his whole 2008 campaign of 'hope & change', 'most transparent administration', 'a uniter not a divider', 'change to discussion in Washington', 'Obamacare' right up his ass.
Obama consistently polls in the mid to upper 40's when polling the general public and drops to the low to mid 40's when you start talking about likely voters.
Historically those folks who are 'undecided' prior to the vote usually go 75% are greater to the challenger, which means Obama is toast. So if Obama can't get it up to 50% of likely voters by the end of October there is no way he is going to win.
You're whistling past the graveyard with that 58% crap.
[QUOTE=Wild Walleye;424213]Last time around, Obama won a narrow victory, although it was never reported that way in the press. Since that time, could you please identify one or more demographic constituencies with which his popularity has increased? I can name a few where his popularity has decreased, such as women, Jews, independents, hispanics, blacks and the list goes on. We are looking at a landslide that should give Dukakis and Carter some company on the list of all-time biggest losers. At the end of the day, millions of Americans are having to face the fact that in 2008, for whatever reason, they cast their votes for someone who hates this country, what it stands for and what made it great. Millions of Americans will not make that mistake twice. The numbers are not working in favor of our Glorious Leader, look for Marshall Law to be imposed in October.[/QUOTE]Do you mean martial law? Rioting in the streets?
What concerns me about Romney is that he has expansionary foreign policy but does not talk about ways to fund the expansion.
Also I am concerned that they will take away the tax in Obamacare but leave the benefits like children on parent's policy until 26 and no preconditions on medical insurance. His economics staff worked in the Bush administration and followed the same policy with the war in Iraq and with expanded pharmaceutical benefit under medicare or whatever benefit my Grandmother was receiving.
I do not think a cut in taxes will lead to a great economic expansion. We are not at the right point of the Laffer curve.
Plus I do not know if I can trust someone who has fucked only one woman in his entire life. He is not my kind. LOL.
Truthfully, unemployment at 9% should be enough to beat Obama.
Of course I live in California and I doubt Romney even bothers to campaign here. My vote literally does not count either way and hasn't for several years. Virginians, Ohioans and Floridians are the actual deciders.
[QUOTE=Black Shirt;424227]Do you mean martial law? Rioting in the streets?[/QUOTE]I think he meant the big O realizing the election is lost and deciding that the general populace is wrong and that he must remain in power whatever way possible. Four years ago I would have thought this scenario impossible. Now? Not so sure.
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;424220]Every sentence and every word are highly logical and reflective of the poster's intelligence. Well-done.[/QUOTE]If you buy me a drink and tip the doorman. Who knows what can happen.
[QUOTE=Black Shirt;424227]Do you mean martial law? Rioting in the streets?[/QUOTE]OK, I admit, I've been spending sometime on the guitar forums, too (been fiddling with my JCM800 and such). I had a brain fart, but I won't go back and correct it, because, I am comfortable with being incorrect, once in a great while and have absolutely no quams about admitting to being human (kinda what got me into this forum to begin with-albeit a human impulse that is located a little further south, if you know what I mean.). Savor the moment, they don't come by very often.
[QUOTE=Doppelganger;424222]You're whistling past the graveyard with that 58% crap.[/QUOTE]If I understand that idiom correctly you're the one that's whistling past the graveyard. I am now a proud citizen of the Republic of Dominica. If the USA goes to shit I'm leaving. I don't think that will happen in 2013 as Republicans should at least control the House. But I'm prepared. You're probably not.
[QUOTE=Big Boss Man;424228]Truthfully, unemployment at 9% should be enough to beat Obama.[/QUOTE]We're at north of 15, if you use any form of accounting, which is in accordance with GAAP.
[QUOTE=Tequila Tim;424229]I think he meant the big O realizing the election is lost and deciding that the general populace is wrong and that he must remain in power whatever way possible. Four years ago I would have thought this scenario impossible. Now? Not so sure.[/QUOTE]Black Shirt was busting my balls for misspelling Martial and he is absolutely correct, I misspelled it. Doesn't change the fact that the only way Obama wins this election is to declare Martial Law and prevent the majority from tossing his ultimate-fail-of-an-ass out of office.
[QUOTE=Wild Walleye;424235]Black Shirt was busting my balls for misspelling Martial and he is absolutely correct, I misspelled it. Doesn't change the fact that the only way Obama wins this election is to declare Martial Law and prevent the majority from tossing his ultimate-fail-of-an-ass out of office.[/QUOTE]Don't be so confident, WW. If Obama gets large black and hispanic turnouts in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida he will win the election, end of story. In my view this election is a coin flip with Obama the slight favorite against a heavily flawed candidate in Romney. Despite the economic malaise the US is going through, Obama is not a massively unpopular President at this point.
[QUOTE=Wild Walleye;424235]Black Shirt was busting my balls for misspelling Martial and he is absolutely correct, I misspelled it. Doesn't change the fact that the only way Obama wins this election is to declare Martial Law and prevent the majority from tossing his ultimate-fail-of-an-ass out of office.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness[/url]
WW read the above executive order. BO gave himself dictatorial powers to seize all food, water, transportation, labor, etc. And for any reason he decides, not just wartime. What scares me most about this executive order is that he put it out before the election. The second most thing that scares me is that most people either aren't aware of the executive order or don't believe he will use it.
Last weekend I watched a video presentation about how liberals had taken over conservative foundations and their assets outnumber the conservative foundation assets by 10-1. Pretty intelligent on the part of the liberals. Let your opponent work hard and earn the money and then you come in and spend the money on your activist groups.
But I don't believe BO has to use martial law to win the election. The American public was stupid enough to elect a guy who during his campaign mentioned traveling to 57 of our 59 contiguous states. Of course he mentioned that those states did not include Alaska or Hawaii. BTW, where are those other 11 states and why haven't their stars been added to our flags? Women still favor BO. He just purchased hispanic votes with his immigration actions and he is currently buying Cuban-American votes. Blacks will support him no matter what. He may have lost some independent voters, but he had a large cushion. His tax the rich campgaign theme appears to be popular. BO is selling oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to lower gas prices. He proved during the previous campaign that he is not afraid to use illegal campaign and voter tactics. And he has raised a lot more money than MR and he has more of those funds in reserve.
Aside from the non US events affecting the election, BO's seems to be in good shape.
Part of the reason Romney is struggling is because of the faltering efforts at deception Republicans are clearly engaged in. No doubt they continue this effort because they have lured many into their upside down world, and hope to lure a few more. When you see people equating raising taxes with theft, and claiming that Obama hates America, you know the kool-aid is working. Fortunately, most people see such right wing messaging for the rubbish it is.
Romney was stumping this week on the quote from Obama that businessmen "didn't build that". Of course Obama was refering to the infrastructure that has helped many businesses, but the way he phrased it gave Romney an opening to distort it. Now if someone really believed businessmen weren't involved in building their businesses, such a person would be an idiot and undeserving of public office.
It might seem surprising that Romney ran with this, but it isn't really. Deception is a core strategy on the right, and Obama's statement came at a convenient time, when Romney was getting pummeled by questions about Bain Capital and his taxes. The result? Multiple speeches and quickly made commercials from Romney. Apparently Romney thinks you're stupid enough to believe this, or at the very least, that there are enough stupid people who might believe it and give him a boost in the polls.
Some people will believe Romney and think "Obama really is clueless about business.". Romney is depending on this demographic. But for those who think for themselves, Romney's argument is bogus, and he comes across as little more than a con-man. Not a surprise from a man who has a long, clear record of saying anything to get elected.
[QUOTE=Esten; 424241]Part of the reason Romney is struggling is because of the faltering efforts at deception Republicans are clearly engaged in. No doubt they continue this effort because they have lured many into their upside down world, and hope to lure a few more. When you see people equating raising taxes with theft, and claiming that Obama hates America, you know the kool-aid is working. Fortunately, most people see such right wing messaging for the rubbish it is.
Romney was stumping this week on the quote from Obama that businessmen "didn't build that". Of course Obama was refering to the infrastructure that has helped many businesses, but the way he phrased it gave Romney an opening to distort it. Now if someone really believed businessmen weren't involved in building their businesses, such a person would be an idiot and undeserving of public office.
It might seem surprising that Romney ran with this, but it isn't really. Deception is a core strategy on the right, and Obama's statement came at a convenient time, when Romney was getting pummeled by questions about Bain Capital and his taxes. The result? Multiple speeches and quickly made commercials from Romney. Apparently Romney thinks you're stupid enough to believe this, or at the very least, that there are enough stupid people who might believe it and give him a boost in the polls.
Some people will believe Romney and think "Obama really is clueless about business.". Romney is depending on this demographic. But for those who think for themselves, Romney's argument is bogus, and he comes across as little more than a con-man. Not a surprise from a man who has a long, clear record of saying anything to get elected.[/QUOTE]You state your personal beliefs with such conviction that you assume that lends a modicum of credence to them. But don't think for a moment that any of us ascribe any value to your thoughts.