My Story: First Time in BA from NYC

[QUOTE=Lysander]WT I agree, a meeting place might be a good idea. However, I think Leroy is only half convinced he was screwed and he thinks what he paid was good value for money (compared to NY)[/QUOTE]Considering that this forum is free and everyone is allowed to read the reports, see the pictures, write to other members. All the new visitors who are anyway reporting on this site (such as Leroy) are to do is, to read the thousands of reports on this forum or solicit advise from senior mongers. All they do is that they fuck up and end up paying high prices, then report here and still never ever read the previous or latter reports here.

Thanks for your report Leroy.

$ 900 pesos is on the UPPER end of the Black price scale.

Basically you ended up paying the MOST you could have possibly paid.

They all try to start at $ 900, but most will be willing to go for around $ 400- $ 500.

It was also your fault for not clarifying U$S or AR$ and the girl capitalized on that. No girl will cry about making $ 500 pesos for an hour of work. You paid about $ 200 pesos too much. Nothing to cry about, but take it as a lesson learned. Thanks for posting your experience to remind punters of how [b]NOT[/b] to monger.

Regards,

BM.

I wonder how many fall for this kind of theatrics? The thing is most aren't going to admit to it like Leroy who seems to have learnt from his experience and is willing to share it so others are warned.

[QUOTE=Captain]Considering that this forum is free and everyone is allowed to read the reports, see the pictures, write to other members. All the new visitors who are anyway reporting on this site (such as Leroy) are to do is, to read the thousands of reports on this forum or solicit advise from senior mongers. All they do is that they fuck up and end up paying high prices, then report here and still never ever read the previous or latter reports here.[/QUOTE]But the thing is that Leroy is apparently an experienced monger and according to him did read the board in detail before setting out for his evening at Black. To quote from his report, " I reviewed this site in detail before I arrived, and I must thank Jackson and the rest of the community for the visitor info. But, what you read does not always translate into what you experience, so here is my story. I am from NYC. I've been to Holland, Hong Kong, and Toronto. Great hobbyist locations, so I am no stranger to the sport. I was deeply looking forward to my business trip to BA"

Maybe living in sex starved NYC does funny things to people and destroys their normal sense of judgement. Sorry Leroy I wasn't meaning to be rude. We really are grateful for your frank report. It is very educational and entertaining. Most guys wouldn't be man enough to admit to being conned as you were.

[QUOTE=Leroy]....... So I am no stranger to the sport" [/QUOTE]I never considered this a sport. It is more like a hunt. In this drama we know whose head is mounted on the wall. You are not the first person to fall and you will not be the last. We can at least be happy you lost your cherry in one of the high end clubs verses reading a story were a newbie goes into a 80 peso privado and gives the girl 100 US. Anyway, we have all been fleeced in one way or another from restaurants, bars, and yes even the girls.

[QUOTE=Snowbird]I never considered this a sport. It is more like a hunt. In this drama we know who head is mounted on the wall. You are not the first person to fall and you will not be the last. We can at least be happy you lost your cherry in one of the high end clubs verses reading a story were a newbie goes into a 80 peso privado and gives the girl 100 US. Anyway, we have all been fleeced in one way or another from restaurants, bars, and yes even the girls.[/QUOTE]Snowbird -I am not sure you read my post carefully? I was quoting Leroy and what he said about himself. It did not happen to me!

[QUOTE=Lysander]But the thing is that Leroy is apparently an experienced monger and according to him did read the board in detail before setting out for his evening at Black. To quote from his report, " I reviewed this site in detail before I arrived, and I must thank Jackson and the rest of the community for the visitor info. But, what you read does not always translate into what you experience, so here is my story. I am from NYC. I've been to Holland, Hong Kong, and Toronto. Great hobbyist locations, so I am no stranger to the sport. I was deeply looking forward to my business trip to BA"

Maybe living in sex starved NYC does funny things to people and destroys their normal sense of judgement. Sorry Leroy I wasn't meaning to be rude. We really are grateful for your frank report. It is very educational and entertaining. Most guys wouldn't be man enough to admit to being conned as you were.[/QUOTE]Actually at times when you are sex starved for many months, you are just willing to pay anything to first ***** you feel attracted to when visiting a mongering destination. Its like you just go blind and dumb for the first couple of days, cos of the starvation (for sex)

So yes, we need to give him benefit of the doubt

I know I got screwed, but even now people are confirming that $700 represents that highest prices for Black. Perhaps if I was in BA for a longer period, and gave my Spanish some time to improve, I would have better luck, and I would drive better bargains.

What some of you miss, it is very difficult to retain and commit to memory every possible tip that comes from board's like this. Jackson's cheat sheets are incredible, but sometimes shit happens, and you find yourself in a situation that requires improvisation.

I appreciate the comments from Captain and Lysander. Every good hobbyist has made mistakes along the way. Many locations are very different, and it is impossible to have incident-free trips every time.

Plus, when I travel for business, I am on my own. Any mongering that I am able to do comes after appts and other commitments. In other words, I can't exactly fill up my schedule for meetings with blokes like you---as fun and as helpful as that might be. When I come across free time, and I do what I can with it, and it doesn;t always lend itself to advance planning.

As for the scene in NY, it is tremendously expensive and risky. NY's governer recently resigned because he had a long term relationship with an escort. Its a crime that the police and media love to follow and condemn. You will pay ALOT for service out here to have the same experience.

Well, one thing you [b]don't[/b] want to do with Jackson's "invaluable tip sheet" is [b][i]show it to a fucking hooker, for Christ's fucking sakes![/b][/i] Jesus Fucking Christ. Were you raised by wolves? I wish she had ripped you off even worse, just for that.

This is a peso. This is dollar. This is your dick shoving dollars up the ass of the poor, peso-living people who provided you all this valuable information.

Never talk about Argentina Private with Chicas. Nothing good will ever come of it.

I sorta agree with DH but Black is a different monster, overpaying there doesn't much affect the bargain hunting grounds. Another lesson nobody mentioned, take them to a telo, if they pull that dollar / peso shit hand them pesos and then leave. They have no juice if you don't care if the holler.

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]Never talk about Argentina Private with Chicas. Nothing good will ever come of it.

I sorta agree with DH but Black is a different monster, overpaying there doesn't much affect the bargain hunting grounds. Another lesson nobody mentioned, take them to a telo, if they pull that dollar / peso shit hand them pesos and then leave. They have no juice if you don't care if the holler.[/QUOTE]I agree with Daddy, never discuss AP with a chica. In fact, at times some chicas in BA vaguely asked me about AP and I acted as if I had no clue what they are talking about.

In my opinion, its best for all mongers that AP is kept a secret from the BA chicas. Though, maybe other mongers will have a different opinion on this.

You know, I've taken alot of heat from this board. Fine, I can deal with it. But some you are so quick to criticize and in doing so, you've exposed yourselves to how secluded and inexperienced you really are.

There is a board like this for most major hobbysist locations. MANY OF THE THEM have the chicas and providers at their members. The board not only is a research point for hobbyists, but it can be useful for providers to clean up their act, talk to their girls, or reprimand them. So when you have a complaint about You air it out here, and then the bosses take care of it.

Some service providers use the boards to issue coupons, share announcements, etc. And when girls know that their clients are members of boards like this, they typically are on their best behavior because they want better reviews. And, if you are a high ranking member of the board, then you usually get perks that the average guys doesnt get.

If you don't want to discuss this site with the chicas, that's your perogative. But don't give me this crap about it being the stupidest idea to discuss this site, when in fact, this site could provide you all with more than you know.

Check out the Toronto review site at [url]www.terb.ca[/url].

Leroy. Terb Member?

I am a Merb member.

Buenos Aires is much different than Toronto, or Montreal.

I have had one or two " problems " with a provider in Montreal, which was promptly taken care of by the Agency owner.

You will not find that here in BA.

But. Sometimes you can find a gem here at a fraction of the Toronto cost.

Best Regards.

Smuler

DEAR LEROY,

For mongering in southeast florida there is an outstanding local board that has membership including the mongerers, agency owners and 100% independant girls. There are chat rooms and a core membership of providers that make most of their living through the board. For example, one girl was claimed to have taken an ipod--she lost half of her income for a few weeks until the ipod was located. There was vigorous discussion back and forth. A PROVIDER WOULD BE OUT OF BUSINESS IF she did not provide services as promised or advertised.

Photos cannot be posted without the provider's authorization.

There is actually a clearance process prior to a provider being permitted to post as a full member. Providers can also check the posting history of clients to get some degree of comfort that they are not dealing with law enforcement and learn what the client likes.

THIS WORKS WELL IN MIAMI / FT LAUDERDALE for local residents who frequent the board and get to know the better providers through both interaction and regular reviews.

In BA as to this website: the language and cultural differences would not permit the same type of board we use in se florida. Clear comunication in written english is rarely possible. The services are legal in BA so the entire knowledge of the client's history is less important. The AP board is primarliy made up of non-residents with varying degrees of fluency in castellano de argentina. Many members are occasional visitors.

Maybe one of the local foros might be able to pull this off. AP never. AP is about sharing info between mongerers and occasionally a odd provider here and there. Posting of photos is permitted, especially explicit photos, hence the need for 99.9% privacy. The management could require signed releases and create an unmanageable nightmare. AP developed this way and is not likely to change.

Any other thoughts? Leroy, don't let the guys get you down. You had a good session and over paid by us$50 to 80. Not the end of the world. Next trip, I'll buy the first round and you watch out that I don't overpay. Blacks can get pretty ridiculous. I generally won't go there. Offer to buy DickHead dinner at an interesting non-tourist restaurant, and he will point you in the right direction to get great sex for 30 to 50 dollars with an absolute cap of 100 dollars max.

OR reads the board carefully and do it yourself.