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Compulsory homework.
[QUOTE=CarneValistico]Redondo, I will tell you early enough when I come down to BA. If it is possible for you - you may assist me in that. I will try to get Roxannas driving skills, so that we are able to look arround. If that sounds good for you, you may PM me.
Thank you, C.[/QUOTE]CarneValistico. Buy a map of greater Bs As. I am not so sure that you would want to live 30k North-West of the downdown area. It's Mum and Dad and the 3 little kiddies stuff. And you are 1 hour away at a minimum from down-town. And there is sweet fuck-all in between that is worth that effort. And remember, gated communities here are not all that secure. As a foreigner here only occasionally, the guys on security will pass that information on and their friends will turn you over on a regular basis, stealing everything of value including the wiring, wrecking your house in the process.
Buy a PH which is a usually a single entrance to 3 or 4 dwellings, usually all ground floor. Suburbs to look in are Palermo and Belgrano. Get a quiet street with no buses. You will get good security, most are owner occupied and so have a vested interest in the security and ambiance and the price for one in fair condition, say about 100m2, will be about U$80k. And down-town is a 20 minute ride with a variety of transport. But Beccar, God forbid. By the tenor of Redondo's posts, he could probably sell you one at a good price. At least for some peculiar reason, he offered his own opinion. Maybe you could share with him!
Suerte.
Argento
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[QUOTE=Argento]CarneValistico. Buy a map of greater Bs As. I am not so sure that you would want to live 30k North-West of the downdown area. It's Mum and Dad and the 3 little kiddies stuff. And you are 1 hour away at a minimum from down-town. And there is sweet fuck-all in between that is worth that effort. And remember, gated communities here are not all that secure. As a foreigner here only occasionally, the guys on security will pass that information on and their friends will turn you over on a regular basis, stealing everything of value including the wiring, wrecking your house in the process.
Buy a PH which is a usually a single entrance to 3 or 4 dwellings, usually all ground floor. Suburbs to look in are Palermo and Belgrano. Get a quiet street with no buses. You will get good security, most are owner occupied and so have a vested interest in the security and ambiance and the price for one in fair condition, say about 100m2, will be about U$80k. And down-town is a 20 minute ride with a variety of transport. But Beccar, God forbid. By the tenor of Redondo's posts, he could probably sell you one at a good price. At least for some peculiar reason, he offered his own opinion. Maybe you could share with him!
Suerte.
Argento[/QUOTE]Beccar is San Isidro, one of the best Municipalities in the whole of gran BA and about 35 to 40 minutes from Micro Centro by public transport and about 45 minutes by car. It takes longer to go Microcentro in many parts of Capital.
The going rate for 1 m2 in Belgrano or Palermo is not 800 dollar, but a lot closer to twice that amount
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Palermo Hollywood
Is a great place to look for properties that can be rented when you are not here. There are still many pretty good deals if you are prepared to look at properties while here and do some leg work yourself. I have a place in Congresso on the park at Rivadavia. The building I bought into is in good shape. This is very importante if you are buying in BsAs. Make sure the building is is overall good shape (if you are buying onto neo-classical French architecture like I did) Find out what the fees are. In my building for exampelle we pay no municipal taxes because of the age of the building and the fact it is a landmark building. The "La Inmobliari" building at the bottom of Congresso park is an example where there is a large apartment available for a very reasonable 150k$ for about 2500 sq ft (~250 sq m - I know it is not exact) with a very large outdoor terrace, but the building is in poor shape (La Moncloa restaurante is in the bottom) I like the views in Congresso but the traffic is loud and I am at the top of my building (my bedroom is like 13 floors UP) Anyway, a find like the one I bought in New York or Europe in any of the major cities I would care to live in would have been HUGE - certainly over one million euros or one million US$ and I ought for a fraction of that. I think Palermo Hollywood is very good right now. Francis Ford Coppola certainly thinks so and so do I. Palermo SoHo not so much and San Telmo - stay away - its too far down yet. Recoletta is overpriced but there are some good deals and Belgrano and Palermo in general are good places to scout.
Check out the real estate listings in Craigslis.org under world cities - Beunos Aires and Suerte
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"Know it all" Redondo.
[QUOTE=Redondo]Beccar is San Isidro, one of the best Municipalities in the whole of gran BA and about 35 to 40 minutes from Micro Centro by public transport and about 45 minutes by car. It takes longer to go Microcentro in many parts of Capital.
The going rate for 1 m2 in Belgrano or Palermo is not 800 dollar, but a lot closer to twice that amount[/QUOTE]I beg to differ. When was the last time you looked at PH's in Palermo? Or better still, when was the last time you stopped off and spent some time there? There are any amount of 80m2 to 100m2 PHs available around here. If you got off the train and looked in at the lists on display at the ten million real estate shopfronts, the prices rarely exceed U$80k. Oh, and I forgot, you must think that you are the only person who has travelled from Beccar to the Microcentre. Sure you can do it in 45 minutes but not in normal hours. And as you probably have your cock in your paw as you are driving, you probably run a few red lights in the excitement, saving even more time.
Argento.
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Argento!
You kill me. "Cock in your Paw". Heheh Could be a great name for a British style Mongering Pub:)
Of course the picture would have to be cleaned up for the kiddies. A "Hen in Hand" is another good one:)
Tony
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Well I got to hand it to you Redondo, you actually are posting some interesting information (although it has nothing to do with women)
I would say prices vary depending on the location, the building category, age, prestige and the actual floor the apartment is on, building height etc. I will list new building prices below.
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New building prices*
Palermo Nuevo (the neighborhood I am currently purchasing in) and Palermo Chico are some of the priciest neighborhoods in Palermo (anywhere from $ 2000-$ 3500 a sq meter) Las Canitas is around $ 1800-2200 And Palermo Hollywood is around $1600-2000. Then Palermo SoHo and Palermo Viejo are around $ 1500-$ 1900 (I actually disagree with the newbie poster below, I think these prices are what make SoHo and Viejo some of the most attractive real estate investments in the whole city)
I stay completely away from Recoleta for many different reasons, but prices there are easily $ 2000-3000 a sq meter. And I stay completely away from anything in the center (it's like living in downtown LA) San Telmo is a place where you can still get big apartments at extremely low prices.
I think there are always good deals if you are lucky and bide your time. But if you are looking for a good cheap deal, stay away from brand new buildings in the nicer neighborhoods. Try finding a nice fixer upper in an older building. Prices for brand new apartments in brand new buildings in Palermo are at least $ 1500-1800 a sq meter.
Regards,
BM.
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[QUOTE=BadMan]Well I got to hand it to you Redondo, you actually are posting some interesting information (although it has nothing to do with women)
I would say prices vary depending on the location, the building category, age, prestige and the actual floor the apartment is on, building height etc. I will list new building prices below.
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New building prices*
Palermo Nuevo (the neighborhood I am currently purchasing in) and Palermo Chico are some of the priciest neighborhoods in Palermo (anywhere from $ 2000-$ 3500 a sq meter) Las Canitas is around $ 1800-2200 And Palermo Hollywood is around $1600-2000. Then Palermo SoHo and Palermo Viejo are around $ 1500-$ 1900 (I actually disagree with the newbie poster below, I think these prices are what make SoHo and Viejo some of the most attractive real estate investments in the whole city)
I stay completely away from Recoleta for many different reasons, but prices there are easily $ 2000-3000 a sq meter. And I stay completely away from anything in the center (it's like living in downtown LA) San Telmo is a place where you can still get big apartments at extremely low prices.
I think there are always good deals if you are lucky and bide your time. But if you are looking for a good cheap deal, stay away from brand new buildings in the nicer neighborhoods. Try finding a nice fixer upper in an older building. Prices for brand new apartments in brand new buildings in Palermo are at least $ 1500-1800 a sq meter.
Regards,
BM.[/QUOTE]You are wrong, going rate for Palermo is 800 dollars a m2. Just ask Argento
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[QUOTE=Argento][QUOTE=Redondo]Beccar is San Isidro, one of the best Municipalities in the whole of gran BA and about 35 to 40 minutes from Micro Centro by public transport and about 45 minutes by car. It takes longer to go Microcentro in many parts of Capital.
The going rate for 1 m2 in Belgrano or Palermo is not 800 dollar, but a lot closer to twice that amount[/ QUOTE]I beg to differ. When was the last time you looked at PH's in Palermo? Or better still, when was the last time you stopped off and spent some time there? There are any amount of 80m2 to 100m2 PHs available around here. If you got off the train and looked in at the lists on display at the ten million real estate shopfronts, the prices rarely exceed U$80k. Oh, and I forgot, you must think that you are the only person who has travelled from Beccar to the Microcentre. Sure you can do it in 45 minutes but not in normal hours. And as you probably have your cock in your paw as you are driving, you probably run a few red lights in the excitement, saving even more time.
Argento.[/QUOTE]You are right with your 800 dollar a m2
Retiro - Beccar is about 35 minutes, 10 minutes walking, waiting makes about 45 to 50 minutes.
As I don't depend on a job in Argentina (Carne probally neither) I can travel to Capital when I want and if you avoid rush hours it's about 45 minutes. But either way it would make more sense to take the Mitre because you can get off in every good part of town (Nunez, Belgrano, Palermo, Recoleta, Microcentre)
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Thank you all, guys
To all fellows,
I am realy greatful for the infos, be sure I do not take the first apartment I see.
I recieved one offer which is allready in my interest, but I will look arround first because I nail something.
If its done I will officialy anounce it and if you guys don't mind I will cook something european and invite you for a "move in" party. I pay the drinks, you all pay the chicks - hehehehe, just kidding.
Anywayy, we will have some nice BBQ and than we see what will happen later.
BUT. No shagging in my future shower!;-)
Have a great weekend, yours C.
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Thanks for that!
[QUOTE=Redondo][QUOTE=Argento]You are right with your 800 dollar a m2
Retiro - Beccar is about 35 minutes, 10 minutes walking, waiting makes about 45 to 50 minutes.
As I don't depend on a job in Argentina (Carne probally neither) I can travel to Capital when I want and if you avoid rush hours it's about 45 minutes. But either way it would make more sense to take the Mitre because you can get off in every good part of town (Nunez, Belgrano, Palermo, Recoleta, Microcentre)[/QUOTE]Pleased you recognised the facts. Thanks.
And on public transport, you must include the time getting to the collection point, waiting for the train or bus as well as getting to your ultimate destination from the distribution point. Not quite the same as starting up the car and going there.
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[QUOTE=Argento][QUOTE=Redondo]Pleased you recognised the facts. Thanks.
And on public transport, you must include the time getting to the collection point, waiting for the train or bus as well as getting to your ultimate destination from the distribution point. Not quite the same as starting up the car and going there.[/QUOTE]I included that in my point. It's about 45-50 minutes door to door and a bit less for locations in Nunez, Palermo or Recoleta.
It can easily beat many locations in Capital especially the ones that are not close to the subte, and there is no need to go with the sucky collectivos.
I would probally not go a lot with a car to Capital but mainly use the car to get around in Zona norte (that is a need, especially if you have kids) and interior.
It's sucks to go with a car to capital and if you do you should go outside rush hours, but it sucks as well to have a car in Capital, so not a lot difference there
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Why would anyone want to invest in a country with 20 to 25 precent inflation, especialy if the terms are all cash in US dollars.
The next "Crisis" or revolution will more than likely be over the uncontrolable inflation in Argentina. A country in which 25 % of the people live below the poverty level.
There's big trouble brewing in Argentina and its not more than two or three years away.
Real Estate is like politics, its all local, location, location as they say in real estate. So why invest in a third world economy with 20 percent unemployment when you rent the property cheaper that you can own in.
Real Estate in Argentina is a form of cash, they can't trust their banks or the government so the Argentine's put their money in property and hope to rent it.
As an example each day Craigs List has Ad's [url]http://buenosaires.en.craigslist.org/apa/[/url] plus all the rental agencys.
Exon
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[QUOTE=Argento][QUOTE=Redondo]Pleased you recognised the facts. Thanks.
And on public transport, you must include the time getting to the collection point, waiting for the train or bus as well as getting to your ultimate destination from the distribution point. Not quite the same as starting up the car and going there.[/QUOTE]From where I live (Hudson - 35Km from BA) it takes me about 30 minutes (door to door) by car to Cordoba and 9 de Julio - by bus that goes along autopista (exactly the same route as I take with my car) I have to calculate (with the wait) about one and a quarter hours. During rush hour add 40 minutes to both car and bus!
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My point exactly.
[QUOTE=Aqualung][QUOTE=Argento]From where I live (Hudson - 35Km from BA) it takes me about 30 minutes (door to door) by car to Cordoba and 9 de Julio - by bus that goes along autopista (exactly the same route as I take with my car) I have to calculate (with the wait) about one and a quarter hours. During rush hour add 40 minutes to both car and bus![/QUOTE]And hope to God if you take the bus option, there is a seat, sin chorros, be aware there is no air conditioning and no stereo or radio of your choosing. And hope that your ultimate destination is Cordoba & 9 de Julio, which will be highly unlikely.
Argento