2005 Reports

I found this and now i'm packing the clubs , this place keeps getting better. Unbelievable,i'm never going to leave B.A.by the sounds of it.

Description:

The best golf courses to play in the BA area would be the Jockey Club in San Isidro (combine a visit to the San Isidro town), the Buenos Aires Golf, the Olivos Golf Club further north and either Pilar Golf Club or Martindale C.C. in the Pilar area (35 miles north). These are the 5 top golf courses in the country. Even though they are private, they are open to public one day in the week. Usually Wednesdays or Thursdays. Don't expect to play there on weekends if you're not invited by a member. Fees are amazingly low and may vary from USD 8-15.

Equipment:

It may be difficult to find rental equipment at golf courses. Bring your own.

Website:

[url]www.aag.org.ar[/url]

Frisbeeace's Buenos Aires Page

Actually RC,

I really like playing golf and play practically every day in the spring and summer back home, but I rarely keep score in order to remain Happy,
(which pisses off some of my buddies whose lives seem to depend on keeping score in some kinda way...)

That said, mornings ARE particularly challenging in BsAs!

<It WAS the correct forum! Sorry guys. I was confused by all this golf talk>

I had arranged an appointment with Libia through Roxana and was really looking forward to it when I got back from work today.

However she cancelled but was considerate enough to call Roxana and she was extremely good at getting me a date with Ariadna who just left.

Thanks Roxana!

Ariadna is indeed the girl from the pics (you have to add some 10 pounds to the pics, almost nothing) and she is outgoing, talkative, funny and a good experience overall.

P$150 for 1 hr + $20 for the remis (which waited outside the whole time).

This was @ the Hilton in Puerto Madero. By the way, they told me I could only exchange up to US$100 per day here. I don't know if this applies elsewhere.

Ariadna appeared at my door very well dressed and she is very well mannered too (i.e.: no yells, no acrobatics, no ransaking the mini-bar, very understanding of my situation, having next door guests who are co-workers, etc.)

No BBBJ. Only CBJ although it started with a feat I had never seen before. She actually put the rubber in her mouth and then proceeded to cover err 'Butch' with only her mouth!

No greek was asked for. GFE to some degree (I guess she felt I deserved some kisses for the little gift I brought her).

I would repeat although it wouldn't be my first choice given the amount of babes in Bs. As.

She also said she performed duo with another girl from Platynum I can't recall her name (it started with 'D'). In any event she was going to call Roxana to let her know.

Tomorrow I am planning on hitting Madahos. I'll let you know.

Cheers!

B.

I like your style, I used to be competitive and grind the strokes outa opponents. But I still like a game , I used to be about a 14 handicap before surgery but I am about a 18 now. I love playing skins for a couple bucks. Not for the $$$ but to throw on the 19th hole drink table and have bragging rights. Hehehe.

[quote]I really like playing golf and play practically every day in the spring and summer back home, but I rarely keep score in order to remain Happy,
(which pisses off some of my buddies whose lives seem to depend on keeping score in some kinda way...)

That said, mornings ARE particularly challenging in BsAs![/QUOTE]

I just got back from Bs As and and thoroughly enjoyed it. My only other hobbying experiences were one night in Lima with a member from this board and two nights in Sao Paolo so not much to speak of. I don't think I have much new info to add so I will just post my impressions/opinions with a few facts.

By the way, I would like to thank L Duke for showing me around the spots and keeping me informed on pricing, etc. He was a cool guy to hang out with at dinner and at clubs.

The City
I spent the days exploring the city on foot, by subway and cab and it was quite enjoyable. I never felt like I was in danger and never ran into a cabbie who tried to rip me off. It was amazing how many beatiful women there were everywhere and I don't think I had one bad meal. I would definitely come back with friends/girlfriend even if the hobbying scene completely disapeared.

The Clubs
My trip was as much for sightseeing so I only did five chicas in six nights/seven days. Now I would probably get killed for saying this but I didn't find the working girls nowhere as attractive as the regular girls I saw except maybe Madahos. But I am also different from many on this board in that I have no desire for kissing, GFE, etc. I only require attractiveness, covered sex and BBBJ so chicas can't make up for lack of physical beauty with other services with me.

The Triangle
L Duke and I went to the triangle once and I had no desire to head back there rest of the trip. There was nothing wrong with any of the three clubs per say (except for the tout for Cattos who gave us "free" beers and basically bearhugged me to get money when he saw us leaving from Hook) but I just didn't find the looks of the chicas very appealing. Even in my drunken state and suspect lighting, they looked average at best. I must say though that the one girl I pulled from Hook was no looker but certainly a trooper when it came to service. I paid AR$200 plus AR$22 for her drink, I don't remember what my beers cost. L Duke did mention that it was much better last year when he pulled six out of Hook.

Rio Cabana
I thought the place was basically no different than the triangle clubs except customers were mostly Korean and with better lighting/less smoke. The chicas were of same quality and the cab ride was about the same from Recoleta so nothing really special about the place. I didn't bother asking for price since none interested me.

Recoleta Clubs
I didn't bother with Black, no interest in paying US$200 for merchandise of similar quality that can be found at Madahos. Madahos most certainly had the best quality and priced accordingly. Couldn't get one to go lower than AR$300 even at 5 AM but then I only speak very basic Castellano. There is also the AR$30 entrance with one drink and AR$50 drink for the chica. So quite costly. The bartender tried to charge me AR$30 for my second beer so I simply gave the beer back to her. We went to Sodoma for the hell of it and it was horrendous. AR$30 entry with two drinks but I didn't even finish the first before leaving. No chica seemed to be under the age of 35 and most looked downright scary, especially the one I found in the men's restroom. Needless to say, I didn't bother asking for prices. I did like Affaire though, AR$30 entry with three drinks and AR$30 for chica drink with chicas going for AR$200. Once you fight off the first couple that try to make you buy them drinks, you can drink and choose in peace. I also liked the fact that they let me look first before paying on Saturday night. I went in, looked and left when I didn't see what I wanted. Maybe every club allows this, I don't know but I liked it.

Internet Appts
I had three arranged with the help of Roxanna and two turned out to be the best of my trip. First was Yazmin from AreaVIP but different chica showed up. It was ok because she was a cute little thing that looked better than the pictures and told me right away that she was not Yazmin. Her name was Ayi and a spinner at about 155cm tall. It was for one hour but she stayed over 1.5 hrs and we went at it twice. It was a good time overall. I paid her AR$220 including cab fare, she was more than happy. Second was Galea from Gemidos. I got her because L Duke recommended her and she looks better than the pictures. I somehow overlooked the fact that L Duke told me she doesn't do BBBJ so when she refused I sent her packing with AR$20 for cab. But if CBJ is fine, she is recommended. Last was Marisa from AreaVIP. She looks little better than her pictures with a pretty face and has fake tits now as well (not too big, just right). Stayed more than the hour and did it twice. Gave her AR$300 instead of the AR$270 she asked for, I didn't have change and she certainly earned the small tip. Both Ayi and Marisa provided excellent GFE so if that is what you are looking for, I highly recommend them.

Other options
I didn't try any apts so I have no idea what they are like. Went to Cafe Orleans and Exedra once each to see and based on the quality had no desire to return to either place.

I can't really rate Bs As because I lack experience in other places but I was somewhat disappointed with the overall looks. Maybe it was because I expected too much based on Argentinian girls I knew from school and the girls I saw around town or because I didn't come down for girls from Paraguay and Brazil. But I would be more than happy in Bs As if I can keep getting hot Argentinians like this trip from the internet and pull couple hotties from Madahos. At the end of the day, I would go back for sure.

This seems strange but Im not supprised.

I just got an e-mail this morning from one of my all time Favorites, Fabiana, asking for money. That in it self is not strange, but what she said was rather startling. She said she needed money because the Police were giving her problems and she could not work at Cafe Orleans.

fabiana was a fixture at Cafe Orleans and has many friends in their. I met her in their and have been doing her for over two & half years.

Im wondering if she owe's the Cafe money for past dates and has just not paid them.

Strange

Exon

Well, Anna (through Roxana) cancelled at the very last minute (always glad they actually call you) and it was too late to reach Roxana to schedule anyone else (I'm so angry at myself for not sticking with Libia!).

Immediately began calling Platynum girls and stumbled upon Faby.

Even though I speak perfect spanish, the constant number calling and filtering is very annoying so I recommend Roxana everytime unless you do have a regular or are planning on hitting the clubs, streets, etc.

She quoted me at P$150 per hr + taxi fare to come to me at the Hilton.

I should learn to be suspicious of cheap fees.

I wouldn't say she is NOT the girl from the pictures, but that girl has a near perfect body and very nice features.

The girl that came was not fat but had a protruding belly, smelled like smoke and had a terrible teeth issue.

No GFE (thank god!), CBJ only.

I was in & out in about 30 minutes. She was good at it, but I usually select girls on looks and not on service quality.

I would like to go to Madahos as I originally intended but I'm afraid it will have to be another time.

Be safe!

B.

Thanks for sharing your info. However, Seems that you may have overpaid quite a bit or else prices have risen since November. I have never paid more than P120 for Hook (usually P100), P150 Cattos (sometimes P120)or Affaire and this usually gets me 1.5hrs or in most cases more. In fact my normal rate last year for Hook was P100. I have not paid for a girl from Madahos in over a yr ago when the "old rate" was P150-200. Most platinum girls are P150 as well. Not sure why your prices were so high. BTW before you judge that perhaps I have taken less than desirables - in BA there is NO correlation of price versus quality or beauty.

This leads me to the following point:

All newbies to BA: Please do not drive prices up. Negotiate just a little, or better yet, flatter and charm them and they will be more apt to give you a regualr rate and not the "gringo" rate. This coming from a guy who has never studied a word of spanish. I learn it as I go and use it when I can!

I by no means can calim to be in the "Dickhead" category for pricing, but as an average middle class american guy, I travel to BA to pay "fair market" value
by Argentine standards. Furthermore, I have never had a girl go away unhappy with what she earned from me. Never.

To put it in perspective: P300 for a hooker is about what a teacher makes in a MONTH in BA.

I think the big problem Toronto experianced was trying to Monger on a Saturday night. Saturdays and Sundays are the worst nights. The chicka gringo ratio is way to high, Monday through Fridays there are much more chicks available. Considering two major economic factors 1. Basic supply and demand (more chickas better bargains) and 2. No marginal cost in pussy (thanks Dickhead) you can expect better prices on nights with more girls.

Personally I have always found the stratagy of asking them if they want to talk to 5 more guys and maybe strike a deal or leave right now with me for the price I offer to be a very good closing tool. It helps greatly to be polite and have good hygene but if you have found your choice and you can convey a compelling reason to sell, it should work in more than half of the time.

Oh yes I also tell them my dick is so small they won't even know they are fucking. That seems to help. I absolutly agree with One Tree though, there is absolutly no corelation between price and service. However He is off onbasic wages in BsAs. Minimum is now somewhere around 600 I think and a decent job pays 800. Hotel maids make more than 300 a month but not much. To put 300 pesos into perspective on the local economy, my friend there is a legal secretary and she makes around 900 a month for a 40 hour plus week.

I just found your site this morning. Was traveling 8 months ago in Bs.As. and met a really nice chica while having a Sushi dinner at Ichi Sou.(Venezula 2145). She and I started talking and one thing lead to another and she joined me for dinner. She wasn't a pro, more of a part-timer needing a little extra cash from time to time. She had been married to an real asshole I guess because it only lasted 3 years (no ninas,thank God). We went out 3 times before SHE made the first move! It was great and she was my steady thing for next 13 days and nights.

After sad good-bys at EZE and returning home we kept in contact via email/telefone. I live on my sailboat and she was really excited to come visit. It was impossbile for her to get a visa for the US, so we hooked up in Mexico. We spend the last five months onboard and sailing the Western Caribe.She loved every minute of it and here is the best part. She never asked me for a Dime! I did buy her buy here airfare! So gentlemen, always treat them like a Lady you maybe surprized! I am returning to Bs.As. in a couple of weeks and will be shopping for another fine Argentine Chica!!!

JIM

I paid the same amount as L Duke at every club and he spent 10 days last year in Bs As going out with a lot of the regulars posters so I assumed he knew what the going rates were. As for internet girls, I told Roxanna 150-200 but she couldn't get Marisa at that price so I really had no part in negotiations. I completely agree that price has no correlation with quality. I am 33, in shape and no issues with hygene/rudeness so those weren't reasons either. And yes, I may have overpaid at Hook but I would really like to see someone not living there get a girl out of Madahos for 200 (I am not independently wealthy so I had no desire to pay any more than I had to). Because if that is truely the going rate, I really need to take some classes on negotiations.

[i]Beleriand wrote:[/i] [quote]Even though I speak perfect spanish, the constant number calling and filtering is very annoying so I recommend Roxana everytime unless you do have a regular or are planning on hitting the clubs, streets, etc.[/quote]

Well put! In fact that is the [b]primary[/b] reason I use Roxana's services every time I come to town. No, I do not speak perfect Spanish, but I can quite comfortably ask a chica to come and give her directions on my own. However, given that every time I'm in town I only have a short window of opportunity, I leave the scheduling up to Roxana and save a lot of time.

Knuckhead (yes, yes...reports are coming!)

Plus the drink, and 10 pesos for a taxi. Trophy was taken in late October of 04 at about 3am. Minimal negotiations. Service included 2 shots on goal second was russian, BBBJ, and final frontier. Session lasted about 2.5 hours. Romina formally of Cattos, not the girl in the pic, once told Dickhead I eat pussy exceptionaly well so perhaps this one sensed that, I don't know. I'm showing this rear view picture because I didn't ask for permission to post them but the front was better than the back appears.

Daddy,

Could this be the same one? I think her name was Luna and YES, she was very accomodating.

Glad the board is back because I felt lonely when I was in BA late January.

MM

Someone asked me about english speaking girls (not fluent but well enough to understand and be understood).

In addition to Heidi of AreaVip (which I really recommend), there are at least two other girls that I know (I talked to them over the phone though I did not do them as they do not get good reviews on the 2 local boards).

Martina, 300Pesos, cbj
[url]http://www.areavip.com.ar/chicas/martina/pagina/espanol.htm[/url]

Ingrid
[url]http://www.areavip.com.ar/chicas/ingrid/pagina/espanol.htm[/url]
this one told me that the price is 300US$ for gringos and 300Pesos for locals!