American Politics after the 2008 Elections

[QUOTE=KeithEdwards]Very well written, but for me the bottom line is, I am burning my passport and never going back.[/QUOTE]As Daddy Ruiz says, you better make damn sure you have something lined up. Also, if you've got a decent amount of income and assets, then you will have to pay an exit tax on everything you own. Depending on how liquid your assets are, this could make it cost prohibitive for you to legally give up your U. S. Citizenship. Once you renounce your U. S. Citizenship, the attorney general has been authorized by Congress to never let you step foot again in the country. This second law hasn't been enforced, even though it's on the books. These items were inserted into bills by Democrats. They want to make damn sure they've got you by the balls, that you know they're the masters and you are their slave. As far as they're concerned, socialism trumps liberty every time.

Why would a W. O. P give a shit about who the US president is. Or whether he is white, black, red, brown, etc?

At least he's not a fucking W. O. P!

I am half Italian so I can say what I want about those little thieves!

Number 1 reason why this country is so FUCKED-UP and CORRUPT!

The typical Argie is half Italian and half Spanish but 100% thief!

It's the Italian blood that makes them dishonest.

THEY JUST CAN'T HELP IT!

American - Italians are hard working, civilized, honest people.

Except for Capone, Luciano, Bonnano, The Teflon Don, etc, etc, etc.

Some of you (the W. O. P's) may not aggree, understand or admit this but we are all open to your discussions and views.

By the way, I burned my passport (4) years ago!

About to buy a Spanish passport so I can be in The Union. That's the best deal around!

Take Care and Be Nice,

TL.

P. S - El Queso, I spent my entire life in Houston!



[QUOTE=MCSE]Come on! It's way more dramatical burning the passport!

The difference is like getting killed by a pill or getting murdered in the electric chair!

I'll do the video: An American citizen who burns his passport in front of the obelisco in BA, sorrounded of Good looking girls and dancers and screaming (as the girls they scream too) Fuck you Nigga! I'm never going back!

Ps: just to clarify, I'm not a racist, but I need that scene in this small movie (as it's very dramatic) and I wish I see for how long stills online on youtube.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]If YOU say "fuck the nigga!" Actually I think you have to say nigger as well, nigga can be like "Barack, my nigga, what's happening?" Or even "Barack, oh he is my nigga" that's not a racist thing.[/QUOTE]Wow, there is something new to learn every day;) thanks. I never understood that difference until now.

Anyway, KeithEdwards must say that while burning his US passport as he commited in this thread. Not me, I just was imagining a scene like that and wondering what would happen at youtube with a home made video like that one.

[QUOTE=Jackson]Okay, let's straighten this out.

No member of this forum ever posted any statement that "he would vote for a stupid Repub over an intelligent Dem".

A couple of days ago, Babboy, in making what I can only assume was a joke in poor taste, fabricated a [u]COUNTERFEIT[/u] quote from me that incorporated that statement.

I justifiably deleted this [u]COUNTERFEIT[/u] quote.

It's disappointing that some of you are apparently all to ready to believe that I would have made such a completely idiotic statement.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]Perhaps it was fabricated, but you have not shown yourself to be even REMOTELY objective, so it would not surprise others that such a comment might come from you. You have shown yourself to be 100% partisan -having posted NOTHING critical of the Repubs which negates any credibility of any claim you might have to objectivity.

After all, almost everyone is saying the election was a mandate and landslide (possibly used a different word to mean exactly the same thing) and you refuse to admit it. Obama has more than DOUBLE the electoral votes-if that isn't a landslide NOTHING is.

So no, it would not be surprising to see such a post because you have NEVER posted anything positive about anything Democratic nor posted anything negative about anything Repub.

And lastly, Bush has no intelligence especially compared to Kerry and I suspect you voted for Bush. And there is no way McCain has anywhere near the intelligence of Obama and I suspect you voted for McCain. While that may be subjective, the fact that Bush has the LOWEST popularity numbers of any president since they have been measuring it (3 points lower than Nixon at the time Nixon resigned) implies that most likely question his intelligence.

Stowe

[QUOTE=KeithEdwards]Very well written, but for me the bottom line is, I am burning my passport and never going back.[/QUOTE]I think someone is fulll of shit! Talk about histronics!

Suerte,

Stowe

I'm not a racist, well, just as little as neccesary, I lived in Somalia, close from Kenya (Obama's father's homeland) and in fact I also visited Kenya once. In Somalia a white boy is not allowed to play with black boys, nor in SA where I also lived. Well, I think in the US the same happened but a some decades before. Well, I'm concerned about who the US president is and I'm not a US citizen but I own property now in the US, and I'm a grad from an USA university, and I do business with many Americans, So, yes, I do, I'm interested in American politics and econ, and if I can express my oppinion I will do it.

However, I agree at some point with your statement that Ar and It are similar somehow in the corruption mentality in some issues, while are two way different countries. Anyway, it's a matter of understanding what the mentality is, and you can fit on it. I like people I can understand, I understand Americans, and I understand some Europeans and we do good businesses together. For instance Colombians, Peruvians and Chileans are not easy to read their minds, in my experience but there are always exceptions, in my opinion it's more a cultural thing rather than a racial thing. And that's why I don't deny business to anyone.

I am proud that Obama was elected. We need the change after the thrashing that the Bush administration has done to our country, and our relationships with the world. I would much rather elect an intelligent thinking and well spoken man who may disagree with some of my positions, than to risk electing a "shoot by the hip" candidate that I can't trust to work out issues with 3rd parties (I'm not taking about McCain here)

Also, I don't know whether this is real or not, but I FEEL safer about being able to declare that "I am an American", whereas before I've always kept a fairly low profile, even when traveling through Europe. I've never felt proud of Bush, and am thankful for the two term limit least King Bush were able to remain in office. At least I never resorted to saying "How abooat them Toronto Maple Leafs, eh" Canadian style.

However, I do have one question. Disregarding the effects of:

- the party fanatics on the election, who will always vote their party regardless of the candidate,.

- racism and xenophobia on both sides (for and against a 1/2 black with Muslim name) and.

- religious intolerance in the US (how could we ever possibly elect a president who isn't a devout churchgoer who receives his mandate from God!

How many of the votes for Obama were really a vote against Palin?

Not because she was a woman, but because she came across as a dumb uber-conservative idiot that would make Bush look well spoken, worldly, and moderate. I'm not saying that she is one, since I don't know her. But she certainly came across as one in the limited interviews she was allowed to have by her own campaign.

Besides the woes with the economy, did this chica cost McCain the election?

[QUOTE=Stowe]Perhaps it was fabricated, but you have not shown yourself to be even REMOTELY objective, so it would not surprise others that such a comment might come from you. You have shown yourself to be 100% partisan -having posted NOTHING critical of the Repubs which negates any credibility of any claim you might have to objectivity.

So no, it would not be surprising to see such a post because you have NEVER posted anything positive about anything Democratic nor posted anything negative about anything Repub.[/QUOTE]Stowe,

What a response: Someone posted a completely fabricated quote that was attributed to me, and your reaction is not to withdraw your statements based on that false attribution, but to instead to state that even if it was fabricated, it was still true.

Anyway, your statement to the effect that I have "posted NOTHING critical of the Repubs" is completely false.

[url]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/showthread.php?p=390780#post390780[/url]

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=Stowe]After all, almost everyone is saying the election was a mandate and landslide (possibly used a different word to mean exactly the same thing) and you refuse to admit it. Obama has more than DOUBLE the electoral votes-if that isn't a landslide NOTHING is.[/QUOTE]Obama received 64,058,826 (53%) votes.

McCain received 56,500,053 (46%) votes.

That's not a landslide by any measure.

In a country of more than 300 million people, Obama received just 2.5% more votes than McCain.

That's not a mandate by any measure.

Thanks,

Jackson

[QUOTE=Jackson]Obama received 64,058,826 (53%) votes.

McCain received 56,500,053 (46%) votes.

That's not a landslide by any measure.

In a country of more than 300 million people, Obama received just 2.5% more votes than McCain.

That's not a mandate by any measure.

Thanks,

Jackson[/QUOTE]In the popular vote Obama received:

1.5% more than GWB did in 2004

4.0% more than Kerry did in 2004

Slightly more than Al Gore did in 2000

My Daddy always said, "The difference between a Brown Noser and a Shit Head is depth perception".

Jackson,

Actually, Obama won by about a 6% margin in the popular vote, it is simple math. Those numbers you presented do not add up to 300 million, they add up to 120 million plus. A 7.5 million vote margin of victory divided by 120 million is about 6%. Although there are 300 million people in the USA, only slightly less than 200 million are actually eligible to vote. The turnout was about 64% , the highest in 100 years. I do not see how Obama's election, along with the increased majorities in both houses of Congress, could be viewed as ANYTHING BUT a true mandate.

Suerte,

Rock Harders

[QUOTE=Sidney]The ''uncertainties'', tax policies, economic policies, his inexperience, etc, are frightening investors. We need some great speeches and fast![/QUOTE]I love it how all of the varied reasons for the market's problems are gone forever, and it is now all Obama's fault. LOL!

I think he is somehow responsible for my loose ends as well. The worthless fuck.

The USA is great, always will be.

Obama has our back. This picture is great.

[QUOTE=Stowe]Perhaps it was fabricated, but you have not shown yourself to be even REMOTELY objective, so it would not surprise others that such a comment might come from you. You have shown yourself to be 100% partisan -having posted NOTHING critical of the Repubs which negates any credibility of any claim you might have to objectivity.

And lastly, Bush has no intelligence especially compared to Kerry and I suspect you voted for Bush. And there is no way McCain has anywhere near the intelligence of Obama and I suspect you voted for McCain. While that may be subjective, the fact that Bush has the LOWEST popularity numbers of any president since they have been measuring it (3 points lower than Nixon at the time Nixon resigned) implies that most likely question his intelligence.

Stowe[/QUOTE]Since when have you shown yourself to be REMOTELY objective, or posted ANYTHING critical of the Democrats?

You are wrong. Bush's IQ was higher than Kerry's, based on their armed forces admission tests. That's the only basis you can use for comparison, because Kerry's SAT scores, unlike Bush's were a closely guarded secret. Have you every listened to Kerry talk? What comes out of his mouth is a bunch of gobble-d-goop.

Oh, I forgot, you're ignoring my posts. Guess I just wasted my time writing that.