EL ALAMO--TL is abusing these drops
He tried to stop and had convulsions and started again. WE are the same age and likely went through many simular experiences when some people could make recreational use of booze or controlled substances without any real serious consequences and others' couldn't. I am publically discussing this in a forum wherein many people care about what happens to TL. Encouraging a drunk who has tried to stop drinking to"go for it" and keep drinking is rather unkind and cold. TL, my only motivation to see you have a good life.
I am concerned that you have not read about your recreational drug of choice and are recomending it to a senior with other health problems.
Drops are discussed many places on the web as a "date rape" drug. It is used by criminals as "knock-out drops" to steal from victims". Long term use cause brain damage.
Withdrawl causes convulsions and shakes. Mixed with liquor it can kill or put you in a coma.
I am not the right wing of the republican party nor the "christian coalition" NOR the libertarians telling everyone to do whatever you want to your own body. I am a friend who is saddened by what has happened to a great guy and asking him to examine what is going on in his life.
I am sure that it is possible for someone to use drops in a recreational manner that is relatively "safe" for many people. Other people will injure or kill themselves from unknowing abuse.
Your Concern is Appreciated MB!
[QUOTE=Miami Bob]He tried to stop and had convulsions and started again. WE are the same age and likely went through many simular experiences when some people could make recreational use of booze or controlled substances without any real serious consequences and others' couldn't. I am publically discussing this in a forum wherein many people care about what happens to TL. Encouraging a drunk who has tried to stop drinking to"go for it" and keep drinking is rather unkind and cold. TL, my only motivation to see you have a good life.
I am concerned that you have not read about your recreational drug of choice and are recomending it to a senior with other health problems.
Drops are discussed many places on the web as a "date rape" drug. It is used by criminals as "knock-out drops" to steal from victims". Long term use cause brain damage.
Withdrawl causes convulsions and shakes. Mixed with liquor it can kill or put you in a coma.
I am not the right wing of the republican party nor the "christian coalition" NOR the libertarians telling everyone to do whatever you want to your own body. I am a friend who is saddened by what has happened to a great guy and asking him to examine what is going on in his life.
I am sure that it is possible for someone to use drops in a recreational manner that is relatively "safe" for many people. Other people will injure or kill themselves from unknowing abuse.[/QUOTE]I have never tried to quit drinking.
I stopped in October for about 120 days.
Now I limit it to as little as possible.
Maybe once or twice a week.
Always regret it though !
Forced by many to join them for a drink at times.
The hangovers are just not worth it.
My personal usage of the drops is limited to 2 days a week and then it's followed by 8 days of abstinence.
Or more since it's not super easy to obtain.
I have read all of the pros and cons.
GHB is illegal in most of the civilized world.
GBL is a semi controlled substance in a few countries but it is a direct analog of GHB.
Same thing basically.
72 deaths attributed to GHB, mostly due to a combination with alcohol and or other factors.
I realize that 1 is too many but that's awfully low.
Anyway, I do appreciate EVERYONE'S opininions and concerns.
That is what this board is about.
To help with gathered info, experiences and opinions.
Thanks,
TL.
P. S - The guys that know me well know that I did NOT come to BA to live.
I came here to DIE!
Sort of on death-row without an actual D-Day set!
