Black

[QUOTE=Dickhead]"Said she was studying to be a lawyer."

Snicker.[/QUOTE]I will administer an exam tonight.

[QUOTE=Dickhead]"Most chicas were not that hot."

Impossible. Only 10s and 11s in Black.[/QUOTE]Maybe we work with different scales. I'm from Los Angeles. Very high standard there.

Hey guys.

Let's set a new mongers standard for blacks. When you pull a black's chica for more than US100 you need to post a picture. Identifying them will keep the rest of us from wasting our time. Think of it as a quality management service.

From the photos posted of the chicas from Blacks, I don't see why the prices are in the US200 range. Maybe US100 at the most.

[QUOTE=Cowpie]Hey guys.

Let's set a new mongers standard for blacks. When you pull a black's chica for more than US100 you need to post a picture. Identifying them will keep the rest of us from wasting our time. Think of it as a quality management service.

From the photos posted of the chicas from Blacks, I don't see why the prices are in the US200 range. Maybe US100 at the most.[/QUOTE]My "lawyer" chica came over for the dinner date. Wanted 300US. I sent her home. Ridiculous! She was about a 7, although closer to 9 last night when it was dark and I may have had some beer goggles.

Guys.

The girls in Blacks are by far the hottest in Buenos Aires.

I went in there and could barely speak to anyone because the girls were so hot.

I got a girl out for 440 pesos. I felt that it wasnt a bad deal because I hear most girls in there won't really go below 600 pesos.

It is expensive in there but worth it in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Cowpie]Hey guys.

Let's set a new mongers standard for blacks. When you pull a black's chica for more than US100 you need to post a picture. Identifying them will keep the rest of us from wasting our time. Think of it as a quality management service.

From the photos posted of the chicas from Blacks, I don't see why the prices are in the US200 range. Maybe US100 at the most.[/QUOTE]All in favor?

[QUOTE=Daddy Rulz]All in favor?[/QUOTE]Marak5,

OK no pictures and pay 2 to 3 times the going rate must mean you have a problem with telling the truth, your stupid, or you have a 2 inch dick!

My vote 2 incher.

[QUOTE=Cowpie]Marak5

OK no pictures and pay 2 to 3 times the going rate must mean you have a problem with telling the truth, your stupid, or you have a 2 inch dick!

My vote 2 incher.[/QUOTE]Maybe you should posts pictures of the women you've supposedly pulled from Black for a 1/2 or 1/3 of $440 pesos that Marak5 paid. I think we're all dying to see what you'd get for $150 - 220 pesos from Black. Probably not much.

I think what Marak5 paid is not unreasonable for Black and certainly not outrageous, since the chica's start quoting prices in hundreds of US dollars.

I've been reading all the posts about the clubs, and went o blacks last night with collegues. Got ripped for the drink, but pulled out a gorgeous girl for 300 AR. Still expensive regarding the posts of other clubs, but simple and exciting for first try. No pics tho, sorry.

Marak5 doesn't really seem to care what he pays. This is a post he made on the Las Vegas forums on USASexGuide. The funny thing is that the thread is about scams and ripoff joints.

[QUOTE][url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=397515&postcount=44[/url]

I had just turned 21 and got super drunk and told the cabbie to take me somewhere. He took me to this place in like a strip mall and a black girl greeted me and asked what I wanted. I just looked at her so she brought me back. I had just won like 400 dollars so I had a lot of cash. I paid 250 dollars for a hand job. It wasn't really my money anyway so I have no regrets.[/quote]

I think I will go there tonight and offer $US600 for an hour to see how many taker I will get! LOL then I give them my monopoly money!

[QUOTE=Tom Jones]I've been reading all the posts about the clubs, and went o blacks last night with collegues. Got ripped for the drink, but pulled out a gorgeous girl for 300 AR. Still expensive regarding the posts of other clubs, but simple and exciting for first try. No pics tho, sorry.[/QUOTE]Do you remember the name of the girl you dated at Blacks?

Geri Blonde.

Barbie Blonde.

Pamela Blonde.

Annalia Brunette

[QUOTE=SobeLizzard]Do you remember the name of the girl you dated at Blacks?[/QUOTE]Either Venus or Diane. Tiny, Peruvian girl. Highly recommended!

[QUOTE=L Duke]Maybe you should posts pictures of the women you've supposedly pulled from Black for a 1/2 or 1/3 of $440 pesos that Marak5 paid. I think we're all dying to see what you'd get for $150 - 220 pesos from Black. Probably not much.

I think what Marak5 paid is not unreasonable for Black and certainly not outrageous, since the chica's start quoting prices in hundreds of US dollars.[/QUOTE]400 is on the lower end in Blacks. Most girls start out at 200usd or 600 pesos and won't go below it if you are old.

Personally I believe you get what you pay for. There is a marked difference between the girls that charge that much at Blacks, compared to the girls that charge 300 pesos at Madahos, compared to the girls who charge 200 pesos in Affaire. The less you pay, the uglier the girls. Some guys think any girl under 25 is hot so are fine with patronizing clubs like the triangle. I thought the girls in the triangle were really ugly.

The cheapskates on this board can blow me.

[QUOTE=Kc Questor]Marak5 doesn't really seem to care what he pays. This is a post he made on the Las Vegas forums on USASexGuide. The funny thing is that the thread is about scams and ripoff joints.[/QUOTE]Ok, why did you take that completely out of context? Yes, the first time I was in Vegas, several months after my 21st, birthday, I got ripped off. That was the whole point of that thread and the reason I shared my story. You also deleted out the first part of my post and the other post I responded to. So yes, I do care what I pay.

Thankfully I have since found the internationalsexguide forums and found out how to squeeze the absolutely optimal amount out of every last single penny to my name. NOT!

You guys are so damn cheap that it's pathetic. In Blacks, you pay more. At this point I pretty much know the exact price in every club and that's what I pay. Either you just cannot afford to spend that much or you can and are just really cheap, either way it's annoying that all these guys ***** when someone spends a little money. Spending 400 pesos in Black is not PISSING IN THE POND because that's a pretty average to low price in Blacks. If I was spending that much in the Triangle then I would see why guys would be upset.

I've said this before but I have never seen a group of guys that is so cheap in my life. The amount of time you all spend arguing over the difference between 100 or 120 or 150 or 300 pesos is absolutley mind boggling to me.

[QUOTE=Marak5]400 is on the lower end in blacks. Most girls start out at 200usd or 600 pesos and won't go below it if you are old.

Personally I believe you get what you pay for. There is a marked difference between the girls that charge that much at blacks, compared to the girls that charge 300 pesos at Medahos, compared to the girls who charge 200 pesos in Affaire. The less you pay, the uglier the girls. Some guys think any girl under 25 is hot so are fine with patronizing clubs like the triangle. I thought the girls in the triangle were really ugly.

The cheapskates on this board can blow me.[/QUOTE]Marak5 as usual you are deadass wrong. I havent been to Black for years and I only live 2-3 blocks away. I am not a cheapskate, but I do like quality. I find girls for 30 pesos that are much hotter than that shit in Blacks. I wouldnt have a problem paying more at Blacks if there was a correponding increase in quality (zero or decrease IMO) but there isnt. Blacks is a name and a ripoff and thats all. BTW I really doubt that most chicas give a fuck how old / ugly / fat you are as long as the money is green.

LOL! Marak. I've only been on this forum a very short time and it didn't take me long to reach the conclusions you've posted.

Who the hell cares anyway. Why waste your typing senses. What some folks fail to realize is that what feels like $100 to some only feels like $1 to others.

I personally wouldn't give a rats ass what others have to say about what we spend. After all is said and done, BA is still damn cheap - even Blacks! And if some of us spend so much that we drive prices up and make it unaffordable for others (which I doubt would happen considering the number of working women in BA) then even better. At least the half decent looking women will be more expensive to the average "monger" and less used when the "suits" and "sharks" roll into town.

So. Screw 'em. Live life dude!


P.S.. Moore... I'd venture to take an educated guess based on some of the stories some girls tell me that they actually do care. If someone were to have you name your price, I bet your price would be higher if someone told you to screw granny with messed up teeth versus Kim Bassinger!

Or maybe not. Who am I to judge your taste in women. :)

The problem is that many mongers live there permanently, and unless you have a significant stream of income, you cannot spend ar$300 per day in chicks.

It's in all mongers' interest keeping prices as low as possible, because otherwise girls will start asking more and more, providing very little to those who offer the same as usual without necessarily providing good service to those increasing their offers.

Andres.

[QUOTE=Justmoi]I personally wouldn't give a rats ass what others have to say about what we spend. After all is said and done, BA is still damn cheap - even Blacks! And if some of us spend so much that we drive prices up and make it unaffordable for others (which I doubt would happen considering the number of working women in BA) then even better. At least the half decent looking women will be more expensive to the average "monger" and less used when the "suits" and "sharks" roll into town. [/QUOTE]

Kim Bassinger or an ugly granny - I dont see any difference and wouldnt charge a different price.

Regarding the chicas here, I have not EVER heard of chicas discounting or augmenting prices at places where prices are clearly standardized. IMOAE, these kind of places have the best girls anyway.

But hey, why bother mentioning this, if youre a ElvisCostello/BuddyHolly stud like Marak5 you can pay 10 times what the old ugly farts pay and be proud of it.

Ahh. You see? $300pesos a day is nothing more than what I spend in an average dinner for two nighly here - and I do so just about every night since I don't cook and rarely eat alone (remember what I posted earlier - money is relative) Considering how much I spend on entertainment in the US, Argentina is a bargain for people in similar positions as myself no matter how you slice it.

Personally. I would prefer driving prices up on the higher quality women to a level that "budget people" would consider expensive and unattainable thereby having nice looking girls that are less used and abused. There are, after all, different classes of "mongers" as well. The budget conscious can keep the low budget girls that have a hard time finding toothpaste and a bathtub. It's a matter of time before a hot looking (and clean) working girl realizes her true monetary potential / worth anyway.:)

By the way. I have a home in Argentina (and another under construction in Carlos Paz) so I understand the cost of living there quite well. While I enjoy visiting and spending ample time in the country I was born in, I personally wouldn't want to live there. I prefer my home and lifestyle in California much more.

And since Moore obviously doesn't care what he's putting his dick into, I'm certain he wouldn't mind the budget women. They're in his price range and they all feel the same. See? There's a market for everyone.

Justmoi,

You are full of bullshit. Please do try to impress the working class California girls with this petty nonsense but spare us. Argentina is a great place for you to claim that you have multiple mansions because most of them have never heard of it.

Hardly full of BS. But it is interesting to note how quickly defensive you get when confronted with the reality that you can't afford much more than bargain basement hookers. Poor thing.

I don't understand where I led you to believe I was trying to impress anyone, least of all you. I have made several truthful facts so the respondent understands where I am coming from. My homes in Cordoba are far from mansions. I have a place in Nueva Cordoba because I frequent my city of birth quite a lot since I have a lot of family there. I am under construction in Carlos Paz because I fell in love with the area (far from a mansion since the house there is only roughly 2400 sq feet). No sense in me owning mansions in Argentina since they would be VACANT 8-9 months out of the year. My home in L.A. would more than likely come close to your "mansion" proportions though since I LIVE there. And in L.A., as in Argentina or any other place, I wouldn't have to blurt out any verbiage to impress. If I was truly out to impress anyone, I could find more prudent methods of doing so. So, please... spare ME the easy cop out of defending your own inferiority complex with the "you're full of bullshit" line. Surely you could have come back with something more meaningful. Dig deep!

I'm 6'2", love hiking and long walks on the beach. I enjoy spending hours watching daytime soaps.

Justmoi,

Reading your posts forces the conclusion upon me that you are an arrogant, egocentric bastard who never in his life learned the difference between style and throwing around money by the truckload.

OK, you can afford to pay a hooker twice the money you would pay to a lawyer in the same city (partner to a renowned firm) Me too - but I would not do it, for several reasons. They boild down to a) I don't consider it worth it, and be) I can get the same commodity at a far better price.

The same goes for a lot of other things. Like you, I can afford flyíng business - but I usually don't do it, because I don't consider the moderately better service worth the considerably higher price. And like you, I can afford expensive meals - but I only get them if I am in the mood and the quality of the restaurant's cuisine justifies the price and not only the fact that you are seen in that place by the "right" people. I could not care less.

If you consider this cheap, thanks, then I am a cheap guy and proud of it. I would rather call it economically reasonable behaviour.

And good luck on your intention to corner the Argentine chica market. Bunker Hunt years ago failed on silver. You will fail on pussy.

Happy mongering, and I suggest you do it in LA or Vegas, where the money you want to spend is easily and without hesitation taken. Leave BA to us cheapies.

El Alemán.

@ Jackson: If you consider this flame and inappropriate, I hope you will forgive me.

In general I agree with Justmoi and Marak5, although not with the way in which they said it.

This quote stands out as the kernel of truth in this thread:

[quote=Justmoi]See? There's a market for everyone.[/QUOTE]There tends to be a big increase in outward quality in Black, compared to other establishments. Also a big increase in price.

Which brings me to another post which I also find a kernel of truth in:

[quote=Andres]many mongers live there permanently, and unless you have a significant stream of income, you cannot spend ar$300 per day in chicks[/QUOTE]While this is true for our resident posters, it isn't true for many visitors. Spending US$200 on a chick from Black is pocket change when you figure you have a week's time and have spent US$1000 on a plane ticket, a US$200 on a hotel room, et cetera.

Viva Elaleman!

Hunt99. You'd make a good ambassador! LOL!:)

Aleman - I wouldn' call you cheap. I'd call you thrifty or frugal. And I didn't take your post as a flame so why would it get deleted.

Arrogant? Yes, I am somewhat arrogant, confident, realistic. I am not as frugal as you when it comes to what I consider menial expenses. I AM as frugal as you when it comes to expenses such as say purchasing a new home, investing in someone's new business, real estate, etc. My boundaries of where I exhert my frugalness are different.

I fly buiness or first class because I enjoy sleeping most of the flight (I've tried flying to Argentina coach once - never again) Why subject one's self to that if one doesn't have to! And am it's what I typically fly in the states. It's more than just the convenience of the aircraft and if you've flown it enough you would understand.

I've seen the threads around here where people bicker over spending $50 pesos more on a girl than someone else would. Or getting flamed for tipping a girl $50 pesos. Give me a break. Tipping a girl $50 pesos or spending $50 pesos or even $100 pesos more than the poor local thnks she is worth is meaningless to most tourists visiting. Why would I care whether a girl quotes me $200US or $200 pesos? If *I* feel she is worth the $200US, then "here's the money honey". I'm not going to sit there and negotiate over a menial sum. I'm paying what I feel she is worth to ME, not to some "frugal monger".

Sorry if I help ruin it for local "mongers". But quite generally, I could really care less about the "mongers" since I have little to no respect for them as far as "mongering" goes (don't mistake that for me having little respect for them as people in general) All they would lose is the ability to pay for sex. Hmmmm. Does that mean they'd have to resort to crime to get their fix? If you want to get down to an exaggerated extreme. People like us that "overpay" for services in Argentina are helping the economy. We influx money into the system.

So I feel good about overpaying knowing I am helping reinvigerate an economy which in turn will bring back growth (LOL - my contributions to society are endless)! We all lead our lives in different fashions, styles, classes, etc etc. I appreciate you "allowing" me to the country I was born in and allowing me to spend my disposable income as I see fit.

PS You are far from where my intent lies. It's not to corner the chica market. YOu "frugals" can have all the chics you desire at rock bottom prices. Just leave the best looking ones to those like myself that are willing to pay for it. See? It's nothing more than a separation of classes. If the chicas knew of a working place where they would receive top dollar (and the management was selective in whom they chose to work there), and had the right patrons, etc. I think it would be safe to say that the hottest chicas would want to work there, and since they would be a minority amongst the masses. You'd still have plenty of chicas to go around the "frugal" community. So see? In the end, no harm no foul. You'd just be out an insiginificant number of hot chicas which you probaby wouldn't have otherwised "frugaled" anyway.

Buenos Aires has a market for everyone. I totally agree. I can understand the "new rich" spending away. What bugs me are the 21 year old students who spend away. It is very likely they have not earned their money at such a young age and are relying on family money to further their travels. Come on, how many college or law school students travel the world. I would think most of them are home studying so they can pass the BAR (I know my brother did) Silver spoon stuff. I wonder what Mother and Father would say if they knew where the allowance for travelling abroad was truly going!

Guys who have been successful, worked hard and prospered can spend their money any way they want. However, as with Ivy League types in the States, I believe many of them have been born into situations where success is guaranteed, despite abilities or effort. Like the students in "Scent of a Woman" some will always be rich despite themselves. Blue Bloods and society types can kiss my ass. They have money because their families give it to them.

Watch the show " Rich Kids " about celebritie's kids on a cattle drive and you will get an idea of what I mean. Upper crust, spoiled, lacking any common sense brats who are brought down to earth in an interesting reality show.

For those of you who are successful with only a reasonable amount of help from family you deserve congratulations. Their is a difference between being cheap and understanding the value of hard earned money. Old Man Rockefeller was cheap, his kids were simply rich.

Remember, it is not what you make, it is what you spend.

First of all, it is almost beyond dispute to all those who truly know and understand the way things work in Buenos Aires that Black is essentially a tourist trap. Paying $200 USD in Black is the same as paying $20 USD for a hamburger at trendy resturant- ridiculously overpriced with no appreciable gain in real quality. I have been in Black and many other of Buenos Aires other most famous chica meat markets and I can honestly say that the poon tang in Black really is not particularly outstanding. Further proof of the ripoff nature of Black pricing is that MANY of the girls that are unable to reel in an ill informed tourist in Black go to Cocodrilo late night to work and go for the same prices as all the other girls in Cocodrilo- $200 AR or less. I have recently been in Black and Cocodrilo on the same night and saw no less than 5 Black girls working in Cocodrilo at 5 AM. On the contrary, if you really don't give a fuck about money, and just want to go to one place to find a hot chica to spend the night with regardless of price, you will find find good looking girls there, but you will be paying 3x what you could get that same for at different establishment. However, I feel that Black really operates in a bubble all its own, as it functions extensively as a tentacle of the Alvear Palace and the Four Seasons, and therefore does not cause inflation at other places, as the girls at Black know they are ripping off ignorant or lazy foreigners and could not get away with that at other places.

Dirk

[QUOTE=Dirk Diggler] Black is essentially a tourist trap. [/QUOTE]So the 75% of the patrons who are Portenos in Black are all tourists?

[quote=Dirk Diggler]Paying $200 USD in Black is the same as paying $20 USD for a hamburger at trendy resturant- ridiculously overpriced with no appreciable gain in real quality. [/QUOTE]A ground sirloin hamburger costs more than a McDonalds hamburger. You might not be able to value the difference, but perhaps others can? If we don't all eat Big Macs, why should we all want to swim in the shallow end of the gene pool?

[quote=Dirk Diggler]I have been in Black and many other of Buenos Aires other most famous chica meat markets and I can honestly say that the poon tang in Black really is not particularly outstanding. [/QUOTE]This is a matter of opinion; I've also been in just about every house of ill repute in Buenos Aires, and my opinion is that the poontang on display at Black is usually better than anywhere else in town.

[quote=Dirk Diggler]Further proof of the ripoff nature of Black pricing is that MANY of the girls that are unable to reel in an ill informed tourist in Black go to Cocodrilo late night to work and go for the same prices as all the other girls in Cocodrilo- $200 AR or less. I have recently been in Black and Cocodrilo on the same night and saw no less than 5 Black girls working in Cocodrilo at 5 AM. [/QUOTE]I'll go you one better - you can get many Black girls to spend time with you during daylight hours for half (or less) than what you'd spend at Midnight at Black. However, who amongst us really wants to stay up until 8:00 a.m. So that we can capitalize on the "Crocodillo discount"? Surely some of us. But probably not most.

[quote=Dirk Diggler]However, I feel that Black really operates in a bubble all its own, as it functions extensively as a tentacle of the Alvear Palace and the Four Seasons, and therefore does not cause inflation at other places. As the girls at Black know they are ripping off ignorant or lazy foreigners [/QUOTE]It's no "ripoff" when somebody willingly spends 200 bucks or some such amount for a couple hours with a girl who compares with SI swimsuit models. Plenty of those types in Black. Not all of them, of course. And again you neglect the fact that most Black patrons are indeed locals. Probably not the same locals you see in some dingy bar in Flores, but locals nonetheless.

I will grant you some of your points, however overall I do not agree with most of your assessment. You are accurate in saying that a good number of Argentines do frequent Black and several other of the finer houses of iniquity in Buenos Aires. HOWEVER, I'd bet my bile duct that NONE of them ever paid anywhere near the $200 USD level often seen in Black and some other places. For the most part, and I think most foreign mongers would agree, the Argentines that we see in these clubs are mainly window shopping, having a drink or two and enjoying the eye candy. Next, when I made that hamburger analogy, it wasnt meant to be literal-nevertheless- if you want to compare hamburgers- you can't compare a $2 USD Big Mac to a $20 hamburger, as one is dog meat and the other comes from a cow. What I was refering to is the $6.50 USD hamburger youde get at your local sportsbar, which is just as big and good as anything youde pay for at some trendy restaurant where some fag in the kitchen massages the meat before he throws it on the grill.

You illustrate my point exactly about there being no need to overpay for the poontang at Black- they are available for half the cost (or less) whether during the day or late night at Cocodrilo- so why would anyone pay the retard price during the night at Black? As for the quality of the girls in Black being near SI swimsuit models- get fucking real- I don't know if you have ever seen any of the SI swimsuit models in person, but none of the girls I have seen at Black could measure up to the true 10's that are the SI swimsuit models.

On a more concillitory (sp) note, Id like to say that I am not trying to insult anybody personally here, just trying to break the IMO ridiculous stigma of quality that surrounds Black, and to help others make the right moves to score the hottest poontang at the best price. Black does have some value in that if you are not interested in actually shagging the girls, and just want to look and bullshit around, or have someone else buying your drinks, or any combination thereof, Black might not be a bad stop.

Dirk

Chica tastes obviously vary. I see 100 fresh, natural, voluptous girls a day on the streets in Recoleta and would have no problem paying them US$1000 for a shag on the spot. Occasionally I get to shag them for a few dinners instead. I often find working girls like this in more obscure places such as provincia, unknown private apts, etc. And their prices are generally low, although that is not the deciding factor. I didnt see girls like this in Blacks. I do remember seeing silicon, bones, surgically inflated lips, heavy makeup, ratted out dyed blond hair, etc. No thanks, not even for free. Like many other people, I have found that theres not much relation between price and quality in Argentina and that sometimes the relation is inverse. Some of the best meals Ive had here were at the cheapest restaurants in Monserrat and Ive had shitty ones in Puerto Madero.

PS Justmoi, I'm sure that many of us, myself included, could write about 5star hotels that we use, first class flights we take, property that we own, money that we regularly drop, etc. But nobody gives a fuck about that. Perhaps you are obsessed with making statements about this because you need to compensate for other "SHORTcomings". Go to nearby Vegas, pay a hooker US$5000 that only asks $500, and she will forgive you for your shortcomings. And, by paying 10x the price, you obviously will have improved the general market for everyone.

In that case, I cannot understand your comment about what other people say or think about prices.

It is clear that Black is and perhaps will always be an expensive place, but your comment didn't seem to be limited to Black.

Andres.

[QUOTE=Justmoi]Ahh. You see? $300pesos a day is nothing more than what I spend in an average dinner for two nighly here - and I do so just about every night since I don't cook and rarely eat alone (remember what I posted earlier - money is relative) Considering how much I spend on entertainment in the US, Argentina is a bargain for people in similar positions as myself no matter how you slice it.

Personally. I would prefer driving prices up on the higher quality women to a level that "budget people" would consider expensive and unattainable thereby having nice looking girls that are less used and abused. There are, after all, different classes of "mongers" as well. The budget conscious can keep the low budget girls that have a hard time finding toothpaste and a bathtub. It's a matter of time before a hot looking (and clean) working girl realizes her true monetary potential / worth anyway.:)

By the way. I have a home in Argentina (and another under construction in Carlos Paz) so I understand the cost of living there quite well. While I enjoy visiting and spending ample time in the country I was born in, I personally wouldn't want to live there. I prefer my home and lifestyle in California much more.

And since Moore obviously doesn't care what he's putting his dick into, I'm certain he wouldn't mind the budget women. They're in his price range and they all feel the same. See? There's a market for everyone.[/QUOTE]

If you care less about the "mongers", why do you post here? It seems that mongers aren't worth consideration when they speak up their points of view but they are so when you can extract some good info from them (otherwise, why reading this forum?

[QUOTE=Justmoi]Sorry if I help ruin it for local "mongers". But quite generally, I could really care less about the "mongers" since I have little to no respect for them as far as "mongering" goes (don't mistake that for me having little respect for them as people in general)[/QUOTE]Mongering by foreigners is a marginal contribution to the Argentine economy.

Andres.

[QUOTE=Justmoi] So I feel good about overpaying knowing I am helping reinvigerate an economy which in turn will bring back growth (LOL - my contributions to society are endless) [/QUOTE]

[blue]Thanks Andres,

I don't know why visitors to BA think that they somehow "control" the market. One of the things that's nice about BA is that for the most part the scene here is setup to serve the needs of the Argentinos, not the tourists. My guess is that tourists don't account for more than a few percentage points of the local sex industry.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Hunt99]While this is true for our resident posters, it isn't true for many visitors. Spending US$200 on a chick from Black is pocket change when you figure you have a week's time and have spent US$1000 on a plane ticket, a US$200 on a hotel room, et cetera.[/QUOTE]I agree, but there are 2 points to highlight.

1) It is worthwhile to consider the opinions of both local (argentinos and foreigners) and visitors.

2) It is VERY rare that a monger staying more than a week will get his chica supply solely from Black. This establishment may be among the best regarding average chica looks, but mongering (as many mentioned) involves also traits such as attitude and "freshness", and some people may get tired of the "professionalism" at Black.

That's why I stress the point that it is necessary for the whole mongering "community" to not spend too much in general, at least not beyond the "tourist traps".

For those who rarely go beyond Black or Madahos, it's not that terrible for the rest of us to pay whatever amount that person intends to. However, it won't be nice if, stopping once by Exedra (to give an example) the high spending monger sees an outstanding semi-pro (something that happens often) and starts offering ridiculous prices, returning several times to repeat that behavior.

Andres

Andres, how is it going! Are you back in town or still on the lam?

Anyhow. It is amazing that some guys have so much to offer; money, looks, power, etc it is a wonder why they pay for sex! You would think these girls would be falling all over themselves for a shot at the big time. Charge us slobs extra and give it up for the opportunity to catch the big fish!

Back to the coal mines. Dog out.

Still on the lam, Thomaso.

I guess that guys who brag about how much they spend or how many corporations they owe are shooting themselves on their feet. It doesn't add anything to the debate.

Cheers,

Andres.

[QUOTE=Thomaso276]Andres, how is it going! Are you back in town or still on the lam?

Anyhow. It is amazing that some guys have so much to offer; money, looks, power, etc it is a wonder why they pay for sex! You would think these girls would be falling all over themselves for a shot at the big time. Charge us slobs extra and give it up for the opportunity to catch the big fish!

Back to the coal mines. Dog out.[/QUOTE]

Quite simple. I pay for model types for the sheer "no strings attached" convenience. The same reason why I would go to a tourist trap like Blacks (or any other place having higher quality & justifiably more expensive girl than the norm) for convenience. The higher price is what I pay for my own convenience (and if I feel the girl is worth it in MY eyes) I don't enjoy spending half a night "hunting" around like I suppose a true "monger" would. I suppose you can call that lazy as Diggler mentioned. I have no rebutal to that. It's symantics. I prefer to look at it as convenience. I have a girlfriend. She understands me and my tendencies. We go to swinger clubs. Etc etc. But I also like variety - for pure physical gratification. I am not looking to get emotionally attached to anyone. I already have that. Hence, paying for sex and making it a purely business relationship is my way of dealing with that situation. Some would point this out as a form of sexual addiction. I have no problem with that. It is what it is.

As far as commenting on money, etc. It was merely tossed out there either to clarify where I'm coming from or for comparison, not for bragging. There is a sense of value in different things for different people. Personally, I don't have much to brag about when compared to some here (or otherwise) who have nice families, beautiful kids, etc. I have all the money and material wealth any one person could possibly need. But I would not consider myself half as fortunate as a poor underpaid Argentine who has found his eternal happiness in his love for family, friends and the great memories he will share with all of them. I see that all the time when I visit down there. It's why I keep going back and have my home there. It's a different culture and allows me to escape for a while. If one were to keep score on material things. I'm certain I could hang in there with most. (realizing that no mater what one has there is ALWAYS others with more) yet if the score were based on genuine fulfilling enrichment in life. That would be a whole different story.

As for why I post? Well. A few things struck enough of a chord for me to post. I found this site by accident and quite honestly enjoy reading the stories and the spirited discussions. I tend to look at the pictures, but not as much as one might think. Porn never really did anythin for me. I'd rather just go pay an entrance fee and see and touch the real thing. I also enjoythe reviews of places. There are in fact a few I will be looking into next week while I'm there.

Thomas. I'm not from old money. But though I devoted a lot of time (hence never married) to my career when I was younger. I wish I could do a few things over again. Nonetheless. Hard work, good fortune and opportunity got me to where I am (I sold my Internet company just before the bubble burst. Now THAT was good fortune) Unfortunately, once I "made" it, I found everything had passed me by and some things are just not that easy to relive.:)

Moore. Enough of the attacks. You're the only respondent that seems to rely on responses with no real substance other than ridicule in attempting to make your points. If I posted anything you may have taken as a direct attack on you, I apologize. Reading back, the only post I could consider as such was when I mentioned you would stick your dick in anything, but that was meant as nothing more than a barb at you when you indicated that you would charge the same to screw Kim Bassinger or an old lady (a fact that I still question - but to each their own)

Andre... I don't own coporations.. I do some consulting, a little bit of teaching at a university for fun - other than that, I'm retired (don't think I'm too far over the hill thouhg - I'm only 42). Not really much to brag about. My point in throwing out the money aspect is nothing more than to establish where I'm coming from when it comes to my sense of what $200 means to me in the course of the discussion. This makes a big difference in perspectives because I felt that if readers didn't know that then when we talk about a USD$200 girl.... she may be expensive and not worth it to someone who needs the money versus not being significant to one that has the money. Perspectives would be different and would change the scope of the discussion.

[QUOTE=Justmoi]Reading back, the only post I could consider as such was when I mentioned you would stick your dick in anything, but that was meant as nothing more than a barb at you when you indicated that you would charge the same to screw Kim Bassinger or an old lady (a fact that I still question - but to each their own) [/QUOTE]Kim Basinger is an ancient old lady. Thus if I had to screw her, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Reagan or any other old hag it would be with the same level of enthusiasm (subzero)