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Now isn't it funny how things come full circle! I've too have had Salome/Ailen in the past and yes I agree with all of the postings. She is a lovely girl.
God I love that apartment on Guemes, first Angeles, then her.
BTW, I don't know if this was posted earlier, or commented on, but the reason why they change their names, at least from site to site, is to know which website is getting the most traffic and customers. The only was to distinguish is to use different names.
Week2 - part 2
I checked a couple of clubs in the last few days.
Salome : Cordoba/Billinghurst, no entrance fee, drink 10P, bar fine 20P, talked to a couple of girls and it seems the going rate is 100P. Around 25 girls, the quality of the ladys is lower than Madahos. Did not pick up anyone but may come back.
Blacks: I went at 3AM, it seems it$B!-(Bs the time to buy; talked to a couple of girls and they were willing to go out for USD100 + bar fine. However my favorite pick (Maria), a red hair, short with a great body (ex ballerine) asked for 150 euros and will not move down. Decided to take a pass.
Cafe Ibera: Ave de Mayo/Salta, a look alike Cafe Orleans but action starts after 10 PM, there are only 5 to 6 girls mostly overaged and overweighted.
Clarin ads: I wanted to test Clarin ads for the maduras market. Was quoted 70P the hour on the phone, went to several places and saw only real dogs. To save you cab fare and walking miles those are the ads I checked:
Senora, 37Y, sexy, 4371 6145, lavalle 1566, P3, Dept A
Bellissima Sofia, 4953 0507, ayacucho 236, 3B
Also tested for you "Divino Privado" 4822 7666, beruti 2379, PB, 120P per hour, 4 cheeks but nobody for me. The place is neat and its probably jointly managed with Cielo.
Escorts: Tested for you an escort that advertise in the BA Herald and also in BA guide available in hotels. www.evastopmodels.com tel 15 5149 2180. On the phone I was greeted by a lady with a very old voice, They have some nice pictures on the web site but all fake. I asked the lady for a 35 years old, taller than 1m70 and less than 52 kg, she answered me : yes, yes, yes. She sent me 2 young ladies of 1m60 and 65 kilos. I sent them packing as soon as they have shown up at my door. One can forget about this agency.
Finally, a good news: Maria from Jackson's ArgentinaPrivate.com Initially I have to say I was suspicious about some very good comments made about her on this board, I had the impression to read advertisement. I called Roxanna and ordered Maria. She rang the bell right on time and well I have to say I barely recognize her (based on her pictures on the site), she is far better looking than her pictures (the hair, the face and the body).
Very good bbj with deep throat, excellent fuck. She is both sexy and a very good actress : a win-win combination. She is priced at Madahos level :150P +50P +usd10 for Roxanna = 230P for one hour. I was a bit disappointed that the "cola" requires an additional payment of 200P. Maria has also a very pleasant attitude. In short : highly recommended
Finally I checked a place called Amerika (Cordoba/Gascon) which was mentionned a couple of days ago by a monger. Paid 20P entry, got in and had the impression to be in a gay dicso. It's just a regular disco for the early 20's with the highest Male/female ratio I have seen in my life. I left after 10 minutes, I had the feeling that monger should pay me back my 20P entrance fee.
[i]Frans wrote:[/i][quote]Finally, a good news: Maria from Jackson's ArgentinaPrivate.com Initially I have to say I was suspicious about some very good comments made about her on this board, I had the impression to read advertisement. I called Roxanna and ordered Maria. She rang the bell right on time and well I have to say I barely recognize her (based on her pictures on the site), she is far better looking than her pictures (the hair, the face and the body).[/quote]Once again, Knuckhead is vindicated ;).
Maria is a wonderful companion, looks very well, and is very sexually intense. I get the distinct impression that she has been under-rated so far, and that was why I elaborated about her appearance and attitude before. No "advertisement", my frineds. I am glad Frans agreed with my assessment of her looks in person as opposed to her pictures in Argentina Private, as Exon123 had done previously. Again, her most representative picture is the next to the last one on Argentina Private, looking at you sideways.
If and when there will be a next trip for me, (can not fault a man for hoping, can you?) I will surely have Maria visit me for an extended time, maybe dinner followed by TLN.
Knuckhead,
You are right about Maria. She is a hidden treasure. Roxana set me up with her on my first visit to BsAs last October. Maria's sensuality and energy are extraordinary and she is a sweet, friendly person. I saw her again a couple of times last week, on my second trip back. She was even better. She has apparently been working out regularly and her body is toned and terrific.
Wednesday night I started to feel a bit of a tickle in my throat. My now almost constant companion (My makeover girl, Marta), started to worry over me on Thursday morning. She went and got me some sort of low dose antibiotic cough drops. No help. By Friday morning, I was feeling pretty crappy. I asked her to find me a doctor close, I could see, as she said that a pharmacy wouldn´t prescribe antibiotics without a prescription.
Marta told me to just go to the hospital. I wasn´t interested because it would either be too expensive, dirty, or I´d be there all day. I was feeling a little lightheaded, but had wanted to go on the commedore excursion later in the day. I let her have her way, and we jumped in a taxi for a 6 peso ride to the hospital.
We get there, and I don´t have any ID with me at all. No problem, just make up an ID number. Go to a waiting room, that has about 30 people in it. I did bring a book, as I figured it might be a wait. I decided that I would think of this as an adventure and see what happened.
About 30-40 minutes later, they call me, and check me quickly out. Marta seems to think that my love of ´la concha´might have something to do with it. The doctora did say that you might get an throat infection from it, so that could explain the last sore throat I had in Thailand last summer.
Get a scrip written out on a plain piece of paper, go across the street and pay 25 pesos for the Amoxicillin and some sort of gargle soloution. The ER didn´t cost anything. I was quite impressed with the Argentinian medical system. It was clean, thorough and fairly quick. I´ve been in a few hospitals in Costa Rica and of course the US, and while a no frills experience, it was good.
I got back to the apartment, called Jackson to see if there was room for Marta and I, and found out it had been postponed. Mara wanted to come in case I wasn´t feeling good. The doctora said I wasn`t contagous unless I was DFKing someone.
There is certainly an advantage to picking the non mainstream girls. Marta takes care of me with great skill, plus has gotten me other good chicas from Excedra.
We went over to Excedra to get something to eat, but they had stopped serving (5am). We picked up her friend Michaela, a plump mid thirties chica. I had wanted to go to Le Madeline, but Marta was afraid if the servers at Excedra saw her eating there they´d ban her. After getting Michaela in tow, we went over there anyway, and ordered some stuff for all of us to go.
When you walk from Suipacha on Cordoba, you´ll see half the girls from Hook, Cattos and Ness either in Le Madeline, the bus stop or such. When I was waiting in the restaurant, Norma came by and said hi. I´m ashamed to say I didn´t recognize her at first. (From the great Marisol and Norma adventure in June 2003).
She told me that Marisol (Mariella) is back in northern Argentina with her family. That´s a shame, as she is a hot chica. I had looked for her a bit with Adrian from the UK earlier in the night.
I saw the blonde Marta from Hook who was my first chica in BA last June, and I´d say that 75% of the girls were from the clubs in Le Madeline.
We went back to the apartment, ate a bit, and then Michaela went to work on me. Marta is pretty good on BBBJ, but Michaela was an oral queen. She offered bareback intercourse but ¨no termino adentro¨. I´m amazed what 30 minutes of DATY will do to some women.
100 pesos plus 5 for taxi for about 3 hours total. A very good provider, an average body, large C, D cups.
Next, Alejandra!
In the following, you should realize that I have had 3 private chicas for the last 5 months and haven't visited the bars much since September. I need to replace 2 so I am active again.
In order to explain the importance of pricing information in reports, I have my own ripped-off by Hook story. When I first went into Hook in June, I started seeing a woman I only took out TLN. They always charged me 2 drinks($36p, now $40p). I didn't realize this was a TLN price, and assumed it was the normal salida. The next woman I started seeing I took out TLN at first, but then started taking out short time. They continued charging me 2 drinks for short time. But about a month later, I wanted to go TLN, and the waiter tells me the price for TLN is 3 drinks until 3:00($54p). He INSISTED IT WAS ALWAYS THAT and the other woman must have paid the extra drink the next day. I paid this once or twice, but then my new favorita quit Hook, and she saw only me after that. So I never researched the whole thing further, and took no more women out of Hook. It wasn't until One Tree Hill posted the one drink exit at Hook last month that I realized how I had been ripped off originally. And I was a good customer. I took a woman out of Hook at least 30 times June-September. But I still don't know the TLN price at Hook. No one has ever posted it. I assume it is the 2 drinks I paid originally, but will have to get verification somehow. The women will not tell you the truth either if they can avoid it, for various reasons. BTW, the other day, Jacksons choice had a beer to exit, and they charged him $26p for it. And it appears that the beer/water price has been increased to $14p for men?
I just went around with Affaire-Guido. I stopped by for the first time since it re-opened. The street tout knows me and took me in. They charged $30p entrance for 2 drinks. I complained that I thought that was high but paid it. The bastard ripped me off. I met Exon123 inside and found out the normal entrance is $20, but he hadn't even paid that. I researched in WSG for prices at Affaire. It took forever, but I found the following: 02/18 2dr $20p, $45p salida; 02/18 $25 attempted, but backed off; 02/02 $15 ?dr; 01/26 $25 ?dr; 12/02/03 $30 ?dr, $30p salida. From Exon, I learned the short salida is $30p. I have no idea what the above $45p salida paid for, but the guy was a regular. I have no idea the TLN price, it has never been posted. By the way, I went back the next night and read out the tout, and then tried the friends of Jackson routine. The guy at the door says from now on everyone will have to pay $20p, Jackson group or not, and made me pay. I will be interested to see if he inforces that. They say the $30p is for two drinks imported liquor.
I have a similar situation with Shampoo. I have always paid 2 drinks($50p) to exit TLN, since I was charged that the first night. The one woman I used to take from Shampoo always went TLN, by HER choice. Even if our deal was short, she never returned to the bar. By the way, she once ordered a tequila and they charged me $40p for it, so watch that. So I don't actually know what the short time price is from Shampoo, or if there is one. The bartender said $50p was it, short or TLN. I haven't seen it posted here. BTW, they tell me it is now (2 dr $60p). The one time I took a woman from Closer in July they charged me 2 dr $50p at about 3 AM. I now think this may have been a rip-off.
One BIG advantage of going to these places in groups is that they are more honest. They tend to assume someone in the group knows the prices. My problem is that I am usually alone and that makes me more of a target for a rip-off, like by the guy at Affaire or the waiter at Hook. And we know the bartender at Hook inflates drink prices. You guys who buy exotic drinks(I drink only water) have no idea what you should be charged. And there is no help here in the forum. And these prices add up, especially if one goes to 2 or 3 bars in one night just to look.
Until the last couple of months, I didn't realize the extent to which this variable pricing was being done. The best value of this forum is to prevent rip-offs because we are constantly being lied to and manipulated. Which is why I post about any I hear about. The important information is simply:
1. What did you buy and when/where
2. What did you pay
3. Was it as advertised and/or quality
4. Policy and procedure issues
So please, the 1st time you post about a place on a trip, throw in a line on prices. I like Andres' posts. Very informative. I also promise I will try to ask other guys more in these places, but this isn't easy(reference the banned from Blacks stories).
Info on prices/policies may seem monotonous, but it is certainly no more so than endless descriptions of sex, and helps active mongers more. Your sessions with women are not particularly interesting in detail because they can't even be repeated by you, let alone by me or anyone else.
Lexton brings up a subject of great concern to me, a Buenos Aires newbie, set to arrive in 26 days. There is quite a bit of variation in what has been posted about exit fees.
It sure would be great if one of the many experienced locals could do a quick rundown on the exit fees at all the main destinations. A couple of bucks here or there is not a big deal to me, but it would still be nice to know what all of the usual suspects that post here are paying for exit fees, as well as the entrance fees.
Thanks,
Johnny O
Hook's sucks shit through a straw. Go to Catto's instead. Never a cover and no jerking around.
Escort ads in BA tourist magazine: I have tested all of them (5 ads), infact the same agency (evastopmodels) appears 2 times under different name and number. All five are disapointed and just non professional. In other words what ever the girl description you ask for they are going to send an early 20's girl, short by my taste and a bit fat for my taste. They charge usd100 for a girl you can at 70P in a low cost boliche.
Madahos: I had a very good session with Cecilia, 36 years old, short dark hair, ex-ballerine, very nice angular face, very good body. 200P for 2 hours + 50P bar fine, bbj and completo (though I did not do anal). highly recommended.
LOW cost Boliche: I went to Dollys saturday night, 20 girls, saw 2 doable.
Gimena, very slim body, nice angel face (a double rarity in thoses places)
Aljandra : Blonde, nice curves, dirty talks.
A bit tired I was on a facts finding mission but they are going to be on this week program
Then went Lulu (Rivadavia/Rivera) : 5P entry fee including drinks. It was very, very dark inside but even in the darkness the faces and bodys were not all inspiring. I don't plan to return at Lulu.
Newport: Saw and talk to Fabiana, nice lady but she asked for 300P for cbj and conventional, based on recent posts it seems to me a bit high; I was not in the mood for negotiating so I decided to go to bed alone (it was 3:30AM).
I have been to BA four wekks in the last five month. B & C for now. Sorry I have not met you all on your meeting but will try very hard next time through. You have been a guiding light, especially the gracious"El Hefe".
Not to go against the grain, but my Black experience was above par for the following reasons.
First the entrance fee including my one beer was not outrageous. I have been ripped far worse in Las vegas for far less.
Secondly, I found it outrageously humerous that these 30 or 40 mujeres were flirting in every which way they could to get my attention. I felt like Brad Pitt or something to that effect! Beacuse the stakes are high, they try very hard. I like that!
Thirdly I was not bothered at all, except one slight soft touch on the back from an interested soul. I could coddle my drink, observe and be happy! I did observe my two neighbor local bigshot's inquire why their coffee / combo drinks were eigthy pesos! They will rip you a new one for sure if you do not ask first!
Fourth, the dancers there were absolutely gorgeous, worth the entrance fee in itself. A friendly Americano likened that they were like sailors kept out at sea for two years and were just coming in to shore! Their look's were ravenous, alluring, insatiable. Nothing like it here for sure in the midwest and I have been around as well.Will try your other favorites when I return.
Master J
Master J:
[quote] have been to BA four wekks in the last five month. B & C for now. [/quote]Ah! I am not alone! It was about time somebody ELSE confessed to having tis problem. I feel your pain, friend. It just isn't the same with B&C in tow. Still, there is some fun to be had. Go back and read my October 2003 reports for some ways to make the misery a little more tolerable. TV helps. Sweet white wine helps too. Claiming insomnia due to "Jet Lag" (Ha, Ha) may get you a brief reprieve as well.
At the end, though, It is just like taking a kid to a candy store and telling him to "not touch" !
Here´s a quick rundown of pricing in Hook and Cattos, for drinks only.
Cattos-10 pesos for water.
Hook-12 pesos for water. No cover or anything.
When I frequented Hook last June, the rule was to pay for one drink for every 90 minutes until they closed. So, since I´m a value orientated person, I´d take them out at 3am or later, so I´d only pay one drink. Never paid more.
I´d also emphasize, that it didn´t seem that many girls were being taken while I was there. In the span of 2 hours at Hook and Catto´s on Tuesday night, I only saw 2 salidas. If you really wanted the best bang for the buck, grab the chicas as they leave the club, or arrange to meet them at Le Madeline after work.
I´m a bit bummed that I have less than 2 days left, and still have a lot of places to try.
Hi all,
I'm in BA and would like to visit some of the bars a few of you have mentioned here. Could somebody please post the addresses of the 5-6 better ones like Excedera, Newbury etc.
Thanks for helping out a newcomer.
[blue]Hi Erol,
No offense, but this is truly a case of RTFF.
All the addresses you could want are in the Forum. There's a special section in the Argentina section titled "List - Cafes and Coffee Shops. Just scroll down the list of Argentina topics and you'll see it.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Hello All,
I'm writing this from home unfortunately. I won't duplicate what others have posted about pricing, but I will give information on what I paid.
Hook, Cattoos, and Ness: all approximately 150p for a short time quoted (except the girl from Ness 100p and she stayed 4 hours), and 250 to 350 for all night at around 1am, and they stayed till a minimum of 8:00am, and one of my favorites from a previous trip stayed 15 hours for the quoted 300p. The pricing was agreed upon in the club, and length of stay was totally dependent on how good a time the girl had and our chemistry in the apartment. I was surprised by one thing at Hook. I was in there 4 times on this trip and the female bartender who has been a real b i t c h to me in the past, was very friendly and super cautious with my change, so maybe word has filtered back to her to clean up her act.
Cutty Sark: I didn't take a girl out of this club this time because my 21 yo blonde from Paraguay was on vacation. There were a few lookers, and one of my friends took a really pretty young brunette, he'll have to post details. I do want to post their new hours. This used to be a club for the after work crowd, but now they don't open until around 7pm, and close around 4am, and are now open weekends too. The mixed drinks are 20p, and drinks for girls are 25p. As always, Julio the bartender treated me like a long lost brother. I love just hanging out there, even if I don't take anyone out, no pressure.
Nuevo Estillo is still 120p for a little more than an hour, and 30p for the room. Several really pretty girls, I took the waitress :).
Envidia Flores: 50p for short time, probably a dozen or more of the 20 girls there were most definitely doable. I just hate the seedy rooms next door. If you have more time than I did, it would be best to get a phone number, and set up an afternoon appointment. The best price for the quality of girls was here.
Lola's Flores: Truly a dive, with fat and ugly girls 40p. Uh, nuff said.
I took one girl out of Newport, already posted.
Internet girls: I paid from 120p to 180p for a quoted hour. Not one girl left before the job was done, and all worked more than the hour. A couple it was more like 2 hours. Good bargain compared to some of the clubs if you find some favorites.
My last night in town, I called the apartment on Esmerelda, and was told the girl I wanted was off for the holiday, but she had a few others. So, I went, saw two mid to late 20's blondes, and took home the late 20's Natalia. Very petite and pretty, worked hard for 120p for a little over an hour. 100p if you stay in the apartment.
In all, I was only quoted 300p a couple of times, and the girls were immediately willing to move off the price when negotiation began. However, I avoided the places like Madahos, Shampoo, and Black where I believe in part you are paying for the upscale furnishings. I did walkthroughs of all three, and honestly did not see better overall quality than in any of the other clubs mentioned.
Thanks to everyone I met on this trip, again it was nothing but a good time.
EZE :)