Cafe Exedra

Inquiring minds want to know. There is all sorts of posting, but nothing clear. Should I ask on the argentine forros?

[QUOTE=MiamiBob;433550]Inquiring minds want to know. There is all sorts of posting, but nothing clear. Should I ask on the argentine forros?[/QUOTE]Carmela is the IT girl at Excedra for now, she and Mia2 when I ask her to meet us there.

Everybody is very pleased but they are too shy to post or something.

The rest are nothing special except for Sabrina for a 3-way with Mia2.

TL.

You'd like her too. Mia 2 .

[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;433554]Carmela is the IT girl at Excedra for now, she and Mia2 when I ask her to meet us there.

Everybody is very pleased but they are too shy to post or something.

The rest are nothing special except for Sabrina for a 3-way with Mia2.

TL.

You'd like her too. Mia 2 .[/QUOTE]Hey Uncle Bob!

Send me your e-mail so Liz can knock your socks off and you can quit saying that I only have second tier Chicas!

I still say that I prefer a 7 in the bed instead of a 10 but this girl is amazing!

TL.

You better bring some WOOD to the shed if your going to try this one on for size!

To be honest I haven't seen you in person in likely two years. I always liked you and hope you are doing better than the last time we were together. When you were making money, you treated all the boys very well.

Back to the question I posted: are there girls working at cafe ex? I understand that the circus atmosphere is past history. Today, if one if not disturbing the other patrons and uses a little bit a retraint are there working girls at the place that are approachable?

I understand that you can call working girls you know to meet possible clients at cafe ex. So can I.

[QUOTE=MiamiBob;433572]To be honest I haven't seen you in person in likely two years. I always liked you
[/QUOTE]Who can dislike dear TL.

[QUOTE=MiamiBob;433572]To be honest I haven't seen you in person in likely two years. I always liked you and hope you are doing better than the last time we were together. When you were making money, you treated all the boys very well.

Back to the question I posted: are there girls working at cafe ex? I understand that the circus atmosphere is past history. Today, if one if not disturbing the other patrons and uses a little bit a retraint are there working girls at the place that are approachable?

I understand that you can call working girls you know to meet possible clients at cafe ex. So can I.[/QUOTE]Thanks Bob!

Today makes 6 weeks without a drink! That's coming from someone that for at least the past 2 years drank a FULL liter or more of Whisky per night!

I went to 2 A.A meetings in a row, my ex. Girlfriend came over for the first time since she fell off the balcony a year ago today and the damn liquor store quit selling my favorite booze so it was like someone was telling me something!

Stopped smoking for 40 days too. And it was Easter Sunday. I asked someone or something to show me the way and something happened.

Was it a coincidence that the liquor store quit selling my booze the same day that I decided to quit drinking? How odd!

And I am brought before temptation every fucking night! You know how much It hurts to order an "Agua con Gas" for 300 fucking pesos at Hippo?

I am at the clubs and bars with friends and clients every night and I have to say "Water" please!

3 times in 1 week I said "No Thanks" to FREE Chicas! Fuck! That never would have happened before!

Back to Biz:

X- every girl in there at night is a prostitute and although the quantity has not reached terminal velocity like before the girls are younger and better dressed than before.

The grapevine is working and the girls are definitely returning although it's taking time; some are the same old "sperm banks" but others are brand new in the biz!

Carmela did not even know where the "telos" in the neighborhood are!

I think you boys will like her a lot! She is a tall white girl with a full-on GFE personality.

She is there often and so are Sabrina and Mia2 ! I do use X as a base of operations as it is easy to find and very nicely renovated and the crew there all know exactly who I am and how much biz I bring them or any other place that I hang my hat on.

So yes bob, the girls are there on their own but I am selecting the best ones for my friends!

Thanks and Take Care.

TL.

Damn, I sure hope that the lack of booze will not make me less fun or funny! I like my jokes!

Can someone please comment on the best times for visiting Cafe Exedra.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=MJsummit;433618]Can someone please comment on the best times for visiting Cafe Exedra.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

They go fast though!

Mia2 , Sabrina and Carmela with motorcycle!

Are there after 11pm.

Call me and we can meet there!

TL.

[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;433622]They go fast though!

Mia2 , Sabrina and Carmela with motorcycle!

Are there after 11pm.

Call me and we can meet there!

TL.[/QUOTE]What girls are hanging out there? Saw several nice lookers last week. Busy watching basketball playoffs and didn't get any names. Will be there Tuesday night. Hope the girls are friendlier than the waiters. I thought I was in Paris!

[QUOTE=Cowboy2;434183]What girls are hanging out there? Saw several nice lookers last week. Busy watching basketball playoffs and didn't get any names. Will be there Tuesday night.[/QUOTE]It varies from day to day.

There are some girls that never miss a beat and they are there every day of the week, rain or shine.

The pale, mid 20's bleach blonde with shoulder length hair is there everyday. She told Tequila Tim $200.00 dollars one night. Not a good deal and there is NO Fucking Way that Locals are paying that.

Another very hot girl charges 400 pesos but it won't be any good. I know! She is the most narcissistic woman I have ever met in my life! When she came to my resto she would place the chair in front of the mirror so she could watch herself eat!

So is that the spread?

400 pesos to 200 dollars? Maybe.

Then there is the Dominican Mafia if you like that sort of thing. About 600 p for 2 hours.

The other usual suspects are there as well, horse faced, big assed, old, fat, etc.

There are a few part-time Chicas that are in their early 20's also. Not too bad.

The best looking girl that I have met there so far is Carmela but she is a part-timer.

Your best bet is to call 3 or 4 of the better looking Chicas and ask them if they will be there after 10 pm.

TL.

[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;434184]It varies from day to day.

There are some girls that never miss a beat and they are there every day of the week, rain or shine.

The pale, mid 20's bleach blonde with shoulder length hair is there everyday. She told Tequila Tim $200.00 dollars one night. Not a good deal and there is NO Fucking Way that Locals are paying that.

I remember that girl. I counteroffered 50 pesos. She was not amused.

[QUOTE=TejanoLibre;433582]Thanks Bob!

Today makes 6 weeks without a drink! That's coming from someone that for at least the past 2 years drank a FULL liter or more of Whisky per night!

I went to 2 A.A meetings in a row, my ex. Girlfriend came over for the first time since she fell off the balcony a year ago today and the damn liquor store quit selling my favorite booze so it was like someone was telling me something!

Stopped smoking for 40 days too. And it was Easter Sunday. I asked someone or something to show me the way and something happened.

Was it a coincidence that the liquor store quit selling my booze the same day that I decided to quit drinking? How odd!

And I am brought before temptation every fucking night! You know how much It hurts to order an "Agua con Gas" for 300 fucking pesos at Hippo?

I am at the clubs and bars with friends and clients every night and I have to say "Water" please!

3 times in 1 week I said "No Thanks" to FREE Chicas! Fuck! That never would have happened before!

Back to Biz:

X- every girl in there at night is a prostitute and although the quantity has not reached terminal velocity like before the girls are younger and better dressed than before.

The grapevine is working and the girls are definitely returning although it's taking time; some are the same old "sperm banks" but others are brand new in the biz!

Carmela did not even know where the "telos" in the neighborhood are!

I think you boys will like her a lot! She is a tall white girl with a full-on GFE personality.

She is there often and so are Sabrina and Mia2 ! I do use X as a base of operations as it is easy to find and very nicely renovated and the crew there all know exactly who I am and how much biz I bring them or any other place that I hang my hat on.

So yes bob, the girls are there on their own but I am selecting the best ones for my friends!

Thanks and Take Care.

TL.

Damn, I sure hope that the lack of booze will not make me less fun or funny! I like my jokes![/QUOTE]Hey TL.

Good to hear you've made some changes, hope it works well and continued success.

You probably don't remember me I haven't been down to be. A. Since late 2009. I used to work with MAX at KC.

Remember we talked with some black dude from NY who was looking for someone to get a bunch of stuff through customs flashing a bunch of money?

He seemed to hang out across the street from EXcedra.

Oh well.

I am planning to get back down there probably in the next couple months just for old time sake and a little chica action plus some gambling.

Do they still have the boat casinos open?

[QUOTE=Cowpie;434452]Hey TL.

Good to hear you've made some changes, hope it works well and continued success.

You probably don't remember me I haven't been down to be. A. Since late 2009. I used to work with MAX at KC.

Remember we talked with some black dude from NY who was looking for someone to get a bunch of stuff through customs flashing a bunch of money?

He seemed to hang out across the street from EXcedra.

Oh well.

I am planning to get back down there probably in the next couple months just for old time sake and a little chica action plus some gambling.

Do they still have the boat casinos open?[/QUOTE]

Hey Man!

It's 2 Buck Chuck! Sounds like the stuff I use to drink!

Thank You for the support!

Yes, the Gangster from New York that said that he had 20 million Euros in Gold and Currency. Interesting story. He hung out at La Mad. Never saw him again.

Was with El Max a while back and we were thinking about you.

The Casinos are still there.

Send me a PM!

TL.

Turned down wine all night at dinner that was included and had 2 waters for about 400 p tonight at Hook and Hippo.

Makes you want to cry!

Was at the Hyatt on Wednesday night at the Cigar Bar and read their Whisky List, very nice selection.

660 pesos for a shot of 25 year old Chivas. That should make most people quit.

I think today makes about 100 days, 10 hours, 55 minutes and 5 seconds but who's counting?

I've been to BA twice but that was in 2007 and 2009. I'll be in BA for one day on business Aug. 12 I'm reading that the scene has changed. I'm assumming 11 pm is still the best time to show up?

[QUOTE=Bauce;434844]I've been to BA twice but that was in 2007 and 2009. I'll be in BA for one day on business Aug. 12 I'm reading that the scene has changed. I'm assumming 11 pm is still the best time to show up?[/QUOTE]Blue Monday!

August 12th is a Monday and it falls in the middle of the month so I would NOT count on there being anything very exciting hanging around X at 11 pm. The regulars that never skip a beat should be there but it's better to jack-off usually.

On these types of days or nights with such a small window it's a lot better to make an appointment with a "sure" thing and have them come and visit you at your place.

Have Fun,

TL.

Can anyone tell me if Mia2 , Sabrina and Carmela are still around here.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=MJsummit;435352]Can anyone tell me if Mia2 , Sabrina and Carmela are still around here.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sabrina is a fixture Mon-Fri, Mia2 less so but my money says Sabrina could call her for you. No idea on pricing.

Thank you for the info.

If anyone has any idea on pricing, that would be great. Thanks.

[QUOTE=MJsummit;435356]Thank you for the info.

If anyone has any idea on pricing, that would be great. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sabrina. Maybe 600 to 800 ?

Mia2. 800 plus 50 ? By appointment is more of a Sure Thing for Both.

Mia2. Lovely MILF! GFE!

Sabrina. Like a GND if you were Lucky!

TL.

Call Them!

Carmela ! Ask Tequila Tim Later ! Ultra Hot Latina !

After a lousy experience at Esmeralda 517 privado, I decided to walk by Exedra just to see where it is and what it looked like. It was about 4 pm and 36-year-old Alma, an Italian, was just walking in. I gave her the eye, and she came back out to invite me to have coffee with her. I accepted. We talked for a while (she speaks perfect English), and she told me that she is a working girl. (Big surprise!) I invited her back to my hotel, the Feir's Park on Esmerelda. She accepted (800 pesos for 2 hours), and after we finished our coffee, we walked over there.

The hotel gave us no trouble at all. We walked in the front door and went straight to my room. We then had a very pleasurable and unrushed 2 hours together. She was so good that I tipped her an extra 200 pesos, making it an even thousand. It was the best sex I had on this trip to Buenos Aires. A thousand times better than the lousy 30 minutes I spent at Esmerelda 517, and that cost me 500 pesos!

Anyway, Alma gave me her phone number. I'm leaving tomorrow, but I would definitely call her next time I'm here.

Bruce.

[QUOTE=Bruce52;435365]We then had a very pleasurable and unrushed 2 hours together. She was so good that I tipped her an extra 200 pesos, making it an even thousand. [/QUOTE]Very cool that you had a good time considering the experience at the privado. Something to think about; tips to providers just become part of the price next time. I used to do it a lot when I first started but I pretty much never do now. Argies don't, I can promise you that. It's your money brother, I'm not telling you to spend it, but her and everybody she knows at E are going to expect 1000 from you from now on as a basic price.

Just something to think about.

DR

TL,

Thanks for the pricing info..

I wonder if you could provide their contact numbers, I don't have them...

Thanks.

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;435371]Very cool that you had a good time considering the experience at the privado. Something to think about; tips to providers just become part of the price next time. I used to do it a lot when I first started but I pretty much never do now. Argies don't, I can promise you that. It's your money brother, I'm not telling you to spend it, but her and everybody she knows at E are going to expect 1000 from you from now on as a basic price.

Just something to think about.[/QUOTE]That's certainly a good point, but I'm leaving tonight and didn't expect to be back on this trip. Next time I'm in BA (maybe a year from now), nobody will remember me at all!

Bruce.

[QUOTE=Bruce52;435376]That's certainly a good point, but I'm leaving tonight and didn't expect to be back on this trip. Next time I'm in BA (maybe a year from now), nobody will remember me at all!

Bruce.[/QUOTE]I promise you Bruce, even if you don't come back for 5 years, the hive-mind will remember you!

It's an unfathomable phenomenon!

[QUOTE=Bruce52;435376]That's certainly a good point, but I'm leaving tonight and didn't expect to be back on this trip. Next time I'm in BA (maybe a year from now), nobody will remember me at all!

Bruce.[/QUOTE]This is where Gringo pricing starts!

[QUOTE=MJsummit;435374]TL,

Thanks for the pricing info..

I wonder if you could provide their contact numbers, I don't have them...

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Check your PMs.

Thanks,

TL.

[QUOTE=Gandolf50;435378]This is where Gringo pricing starts![/QUOTE]I hate criticizing a brother but I agree.

Here's the conversation with her friend.

Chica 1: "Gringo que me cogi me dio 200 pesos adicionales" (That gringo I fucked gave me 200 extra pesos).

Chica 2: "No me digas, que loco" (Shut up, how crazy).

Chica 1: "Si verdad, te juro, que estáand hechos de plata" (No it's true I swear to you, they are made of money).

Now here's the conversation with you.

Monger: Vaaamos a mi apartamenter yo paygote kenyenteros pesos (Lets go to my apartment I'll pay you 500).

Chica 2: Thinking (La gorda vale 1000, me valgo 1200, fat maria got 1000 I'm worth 1200) "No mi amor, 1500 minimo" (No honey it's 1500 minimum [She's holding 300 back for wiggle room]).

Monger: (This chick is crazy, she's got 20 kids and her tits are going to bounce off the floor when she takes that bra off but there's nobody else here and I want to fuck somebody) Mi amoral yo tango 600.

Chica 2: Thinking (Fat Maria made 1000, If I sit here long enough somebody will pay me that) No gracias.

Rules of chicaland "A chick puts her worth at the highest number that she has ever HEARD that anybody has EVER been paid." Ask Jax about buying a mirror for his apartment someday.

DR, There is truth to what you say, and I know you want us tourists to stop paying too much. But I think you are over-generalizing. Most chicas will set their rates based on averages, not outliers. If some guy comes along and pays double the average, yes that outlier may influence some chicas to try to get more. But no way does that translate into the chica or her friends automatically expecting double from all customers. And how you talk her up is always a factor. Tell me where I'm going wrong.

Monger: Lets go to my apartment I'll pay you 500.

Chica: No honey it's 1500 minimum.

Monger: 1500? Baby, where do you get that number from?

Chica: That's what other customers pay.

Monger: That can't be possible. I have several friends who come here, they pay 400 or 500 pesos.

Chica: No, not possible.

Monger: One of my friends paid 1000 pesos once, but that was for multiple hours. Maybe you're thinking multiple hours. Look, I know people who come here all the time, I know what the rate is. 500 per hour. I will offer you 500, and if we have a good time, I will include a tip, no problem. (raise to 600 if one of the hotties).

Chica: How much tip?

Monger: If we have a really good time, maybe 100.

Admittedly, this is where I move a BIT into gringo pricing, but just a bit. As a tourist my time is precious, so I aim for average to slightly above the average, as need be. The tip approach gives the chica an incentive, and me the option to save 100 if she doesn't perform well. Works almost all the time, especially after some time chatting, laughing and drinking with the chica. The key is knowing where the average is, for the quality of chica you're dealing with.

I had three different chicas from Exedra.

The first I paid 600.

The next I paid 500.

Then I had a 2 for 1 at 500 each.

Hold your ground gents!

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;435371]Something to think about; tips to providers just become part of the price next time. I used to do it a lot when I first started but I pretty much never do now. Argies don't, I can promise you that. [/QUOTE]BTW- Argies don't tip because the chica's incentive is repeat business. If the chica knows you're a tourist in town for a short time, this incentive is very limited. You can increase it a bit by saying you're in town for 3 more weeks (even if you're leaving tomorrow). But basically the dynamics are different for tourists, where a deal structured with a tip can help tilt the session towards better service.

[QUOTE=Esten;435386]BTW- Argies don't tip because the chica's incentive is repeat business. If the chica knows you're a tourist in town for a short time, this incentive is very limited. You can increase it a bit by saying you're in town for 3 more weeks (even if you're leaving tomorrow). But basically the dynamics are different for tourists, where a deal structured with a tip can help tilt the session towards better service.[/QUOTE]I live here, money is more important than time. I speak Spanish (poorly, but I speak enough) and in my experience it just doesn't matter. If you are a Yankee, they know somebody who some other Yankee paid 2 x the going rate and they won't settle for less. You can work the amount for more time as you said, they will say 1200 for two hours but they are gone in 45 unless you argue with them and who wants to do that. And who wants to have a girl around for 2 hours unless you like them.

I would bang a couple girls from Exedra but they are nuts. The older ugly chicks want 600-1000 an hour, younger hotter 800-1200.

These are just the chicks who's name starts with the letter A off Baires and the local forum I have sessioned with;.

450 hr, 400 on Saturdays [URL]http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Azhul_15-6999-9212_12114.htm[/URL].

600 an hour and will fuck you to death [URL]http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Agostyna_15-3859-4651_8930.htm[/URL].

400, not great but if you're hungry for a spinner with big fake titties its a visual thing. [URL]http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Aimar_15-6867-1435_11502.htm[/URL].

Hell Alexia even runs specials for 400 some days if you want a 35 year old hottie. [URL]http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Alexia%20SI_15-3272-4476_4675.htm[/URL].

400 conventional /500 complato total P.S.E. [URL]http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Axel_15-2431-4649_12301.htm[/URL].

These are all indies not privado girls so it's not like they are fucking 10 guys a day (and privado girls don't do that many).

What's the difference? Not a lot of extranjeros are going to see them. They service almost exclusively Argentines and are subject to a very active and often critical forum. The VERY highest priced chicks are 900 with these indies and for most of them it's an hour fucking, normally an hour 20- and hour 30 for the whole session. Those chicks are be and see list model hot and will seriously lay some pleasure on you.

I hate sounding like one of the price police, it's not my money and I think people should spend it as they wish. But to say there isn't an effect and that it can't be controlled just isn't true.

DR.

I'd just like to get a little at night sometime is all.

[QUOTE=Esten;435386]the chica's incentive is repeat business.[/QUOTE]Not if she's Argentinian!

If she's Argentinian she has absolutely zero concept of repeat business and can't see further ahead than the end of her nose!

[QUOTE=Esten;435386]But basically the dynamics are different for tourists, where a deal structured with a tip can help tilt the session towards better service.[/QUOTE]Excuse me to point this out, but in my opinion you are completely mistaken about the girls here.

Suppose you see a girl that quotes 500 pesos an hour. If you tip her a 100 pesos before the session, she will just think that you're a gringo with extra money to give away. No more than that. She will say Gracias but the 100 peso will NOT help you in receiving better service than someone who pays 500.

Or, suppose you're happy with a girl when the session is finished and tip her a 100 after the session. Again, she will say "Gracias mi amor!" but if you come back the next day to see her again, will she be ready to give you better service? NO. Just like anyone would look at her as a 500 peso / hour girl, she will look at you as a 600 peso client, and I can guarantee that she will be upset if you don't pay her the original 500 plus the 100 tip again.

A deal structured with a tip does NOT help the session towards better service. This applies not only to girls but to almost any business run by Argentines.

People don't understand Argie economics. Here a used car (all used vehicles) go up in price every year, not down like in other countries. People often sell things that are well used for the price of a new one saying that it is better now that it is broken in. Some one could be starving and have no money to eat but will turn down decent paying work because they "deserve" more! I've never seen a more a $$ backwards country economically. Chicas are just a extension of this. There are a lot of ass holes that come to this country and pay 10 times the girls worth because they never had a decent piece of a $$ before and now they are in love. Then the girls all think that this is the "new" norm. People don't understand Argie mentality and continue to contribute to the fantasy land mentality of the average Argie.

[QUOTE=Esten;435384]DR, There is truth to what you say, and I know you want us tourists to stop paying too much. But I think you are over-generalizing. Most chicas will set their rates based on averages, not outliers. If some guy comes along and pays double the average, yes that outlier may influence some chicas to try to get more. But no way does that translate into the chica or her friends automatically expecting double from all customers. And how you talk her up is always a factor. Tell me where I'm going wrong.

[/QUOTE]Esten, I assume from your previous posts that you speak better than passable Spanish. If that assumption is correct, you forget that many of the gringos who come to BA looking for pussy speak little or no Spanish. I can tell you from "pretending" that I spoke very little Spanish that the pricing was different than when I spoke to the chicas in fluent, albeit university, Spanish. They knew that I was a tourist on both occasions.

Tres3.

[QUOTE=Tres3;435392]Esten, I assume from your previous posts that you speak better than passable Spanish. If that assumption is correct, you forget that many of the gringos who come to BA looking for pussy speak little or no Spanish. I can tell you from "pretending" that I spoke very little Spanish that the pricing was different than when I spoke to the chicas in fluent, albeit university, Spanish. They knew that I was a tourist on both occasions.

Tres3.[/QUOTE]Somebody should try using Flash Cards written in Perfect Spanish, not that the girls would know the difference between perfect Spanish and incorrect Spanish.

The cards could state that you are a Mute from Buenos Aires and that you would like to spend some time with them.

You would have to be able to understand them a little bit though. Or not.

Deaf / Mute?

Better!

Flash Cards for Taxi Drivers..

Just write your address down on a slip of paper and show it directly to the taxi driver to avoid a Tour.

I can't pull this trick off at any of the haunts but a lot of you can try.

At worst the girls should get a kick out of it.

TL.

I'm not saying the "Argie mentality" doesn't exist (this has been discussed on AP many times over the years). I'm saying it does not apply to all chicas in all circumstances. Some of the statements here (probably including my own in my last post) are over-generalizations. Striking a good deal will depend on many factors. With some chicas with inflated prices it will be almost impossible, understood. But there are ALWAYS opportunities to be had, limited only by your effort and creativity.

[QUOTE=Joe23;435389]Suppose you see a girl that quotes 500 pesos an hour. If you tip her a 100 pesos before the session, she will just think that you're a gringo with extra money to give away. No more than that. She will say Gracias but the 100 peso will NOT help you in receiving better service than someone who pays 500.[/QUOTE]

Who said anything about tipping before? You tip AFTER.

[QUOTE]Or, suppose you're happy with a girl when the session is finished and tip her a 100 after the session. Again, she will say "Gracias mi amor!" but if you come back the next day to see her again, will she be ready to give you better service? NO. [/QUOTE]

Who said anything about expecting better service the next time? You tip only if you got good service, which you'll expect the next time. And BTW I wouldn't do this with the indies DR mentioned who have standard rates and service levels. It's for the club chicas, as needed (not always), who may need some convincing to give me the standard rate not the gringo rate.

[QUOTE]Just like anyone would look at her as a 500 peso / hour girl, she will look at you as a 600 peso client, and I can guarantee that she will be upset if you don't pay her the original 500 plus the 100 tip again.[/QUOTE]

So what if she's upset. It will be the same deal next time, and if she doesn't deliver, no tip (and no seeing her again).

[QUOTE=DaddyRulz;435387]I live here, money is more important than time. I speak Spanish (poorly, but I speak enough) and in my experience it just doesn't matter. If you are a Yankee, they know somebody who some other Yankee paid 2 x the going rate and they won't settle for less. You can work the amount for more time as you said, they will say 1200 for two hours but they are gone in 45 unless you argue with them and who wants to do that. And who wants to have a girl around for 2 hours unless you like them.[/QUOTE]

Some chicas, not all. This reminds me of the many times a chica has whispered to me "psst... between you and me OK? Don't tell the other chicas". You expect me to believe these chicas giving me a better deal than others have quoted, NEVER charged a higher price to a Yankee?

[QUOTE]I would bang a couple girls from Exedra but they are nuts. The older ugly chicks want 600-1000 an hour, younger hotter 800-1200.[/QUOTE]

If the hotties have a pact to lock the Yankees out below 800, either get more creative or find another source of hotties (if 800 is too much). BTW, you're going to hate me saying this but 800 is not too ridiculous with the recent exchange rate. Even a Madahos-caliber chica at 1000 pesos is a much better deal than pulling her from Madahos.

[QUOTE]What's the difference? Not a lot of extranjeros are going to see them. They service almost exclusively Argentines and are subject to a very active and often critical forum. The VERY highest priced chicks are 900 with these indies and for most of them it's an hour fucking, normally an hour 20- and hour 30 for the whole session. Those chicks are be and see list model hot and will seriously lay some pleasure on you.[/QUOTE]

Yeah the local foro is fantastic. And many fantastic local indies. But, if some gringo comes along and tips Yamy 400 pesos, is she going to expect the same from the Argies? Or the next gringo? Of course not. So we've established right there that the "Argie mentality" does not always apply.

[QUOTE]I'd just like to get a little at night sometime is all.[/QUOTE]

I think I get where you're coming from. You'd like Exedra to be a convenient, reliable late-night source of good quality at good prices. Some tourists are creating inflation. I can't argue with that. I just disagree with the over-generalizations.

[QUOTE=Esten;435407]I'm not saying the "Argie mentality" doesn't exist (this has been discussed on AP many times over the years). I'm saying it does not apply to all chicas in all circumstances. Some of the statements here (probably including my own in my last post) are over-generalizations. Striking a good deal will depend on many factors. With some chicas with inflated prices it will be almost impossible, understood. But there are ALWAYS opportunities to be had, limited only by your effort and creativity.



You are right, there are always exceptions to every statement or rule. But here? In Argentina? Very, very few.. Your experiences are limited as a tourist. For those of us who live here its a 95% sure thing. The Argie mentality exists and very hard to understand why.

[QUOTE=Esten;435407]I'm not saying the "Argie mentality" doesn't exist (this has been discussed on AP many times over the years). I'm saying it does not apply to all chicas in all circumstances. Some of the statements here (probably including my own in my last post) are over-generalizations. Striking a good deal will depend on many factors. With some chicas with inflated prices it will be almost impossible, understood. But there are ALWAYS opportunities to be had, limited only by your effort and creativity.



Who said anything about tipping before? You tip AFTER.



Who said anything about expecting better service the next time? You tip only if you got good service, which you'll expect the next time. And BTW I wouldn't do this with the indies DR mentioned who have standard rates and service levels. It's for the club chicas, as needed (not always), who may need some convincing to give me the standard rate not the gringo rate.



So what if she's upset. It will be the same deal next time, and if she doesn't deliver, no tip (and no seeing her again).



Some chicas, not all. This reminds me of the many times a chica has whispered to me "psst... between you and me OK? Don't tell the other chicas". You expect me to believe these chicas giving me a better deal than others have quoted, NEVER charged a higher price to a Yankee?



If the hotties have a pact to lock the Yankees out below 800, either get more creative or find another source of hotties (if 800 is too much). BTW, you're going to hate me saying this but 800 is not too ridiculous with the recent exchange rate. Even a Madahos-caliber chica at 1000 pesos is a much better deal than pulling her from Madahos.



Yeah the local foro is fantastic. And many fantastic local indies. But, if some gringo comes along and tips Yamy 400 pesos, is she going to expect the same from the Argies? Or the next gringo? Of course not. So we've established right there that the "Argie mentality" does not always apply.



I think I get where you're coming from. You'd like Exedra to be a convenient, reliable late-night source of good quality at good prices. Some tourists are creating inflation. I can't argue with that. I just disagree with the over-generalizations.[/QUOTE]NEW RULES:

Parsers get pistol whipped if over one parse.

Seems you could get your point across clearly with out regurgitating.

The whole pot of drivel again.

Punter 12345 is also on the list.

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Punter 12345 is also on the list.[/QUOTE]The day they let you start making the rules we'll know the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

Don't start no shit, there won't be no shit.