Buenos Aires - 2002 Reports

Glad you're having fun BAPunter. That's what it's all about down there. Don't lose hope on the call to order girls. I think YMMV (you're mileage may vary) always comes into play. I think Umgman also saw Camil and had good things to say about her. I saw more club girls but the ones I saw from Area-vip and Platynum were really GFE with me. Not a bad session my entire trip.

I think you're post and Umgman's post is a good example of how two guys can see the same girl and have two different experiences. I also saw the same girl as one of my friends. He had a good session too but she was in a hurry to leave with him. If you catch a good girl on a bad day the session quality can be affected. This is where I think speaking some spanish helps. Also, if you guys have a bad session with a girl and she asks for a tip (propina) or taxi fare..say NO. I'm all for being generous if the girls are good but can't understand the guys that tip girls after a lousy session.

As BAPunter jokingly pointed out...taxi fare is very cheap here. It didn't cost more than 5-7 pesos to go clear across town. I always gave $2 or $3 US for taxi fare but the girls were always good GFE experiences.

That's the other great thing if you're in town several days and have time. You can get to know girls in the clubs. See their faces, their bodies, what their attitude is like, see the smile on their faces. Things like that are priceless and you'll never be able to tell from the internet. But still....those internet girls come in handy in a town like B.A. where there is not significant daytime action.

I understand why Jackson doesn't update the photo section regularly. Truth be told I wouldn't post pictures to a public site most likely. I've met a ton of you guys from this board. Those that have been to B.A. and also have photos might want to get on my email list and maybe we all can exchange photos. I have a few rolls of film with photos. Email me: saintofba@hotmail.com. Those that haven't been to BA yet..please don't email asking for pictures...I get enough of those emails. Thanks for understanding.

bapunter,

What is the address of Shampoo??? Thanks!

Hey Boys--

A trusted Business associate of mine in Buenos Aires sent me an interesting email about his extraordinary good fortune using newspaper ads right now in BA to find chicas. (And this is from a guy who like me had "hit or miss" luck at best from newspaper ads).

He claims that he has seen on several occasions young "Lolitas" for 40-60 pesos for an hour that in some cases include anal. He pointed out that this was during the daytime--and they came to his Palermo apartment--promptly within an hour of him calling.

He is an American and I can vouch that he is not a Bullshitter. His theory is that some girls (for whatever reason) are not as sophisticated as other girls and they begin their trade very naively---some foolishly start of working at low cost brothels/outcall agencies that advertise in the newspaper. Perhaps--these girls can't work at nights because they still live with their parents. Perhaps they have a cousin/friend that works at the agency who encouraged them to join. Whatever the reason--there seems to be a surplus of chicas that have yet to understand the value of their ass--yet.

Now I have been out to Blacks with this guy and I know his taste. He swears that these recent "Lolitas" are comparable to some of the Blacks girls. ONLY YOUNGER and less professional minded. He is as shocked about it as me. The girls were aroung 21 years old he said.

In case you dont know---40 pesos is under $12 US Dollars. THESE ARE CAMBODIAN PRICES.

So--to anyone going down there for an extended period--you may want to gamble on the newspaper ads once in a while---WHAT THE HELL--RIGHT??? (If you only have 5 days in BA, dont bother its not worth it--stick to the bars for their certainty).

WARNING--if you do decide to roll the dice on a newspaper ad--
be smart about it. Circle all the ads that calim that they have young beautiful girls "Lolitas". Call them and be demonstrative that you refuse to see a girl over 22. And if you dont like the girl--if she isn't "muy bonita" that you are going to send her packing.
YOU MIGHT END UP PLEASANTLY SURPRISED.

But be warned--I still think that the newspaper ads still hit or miss.

Leo

I never wrote down the streets where Salome is. I asked the taxi drivers near the other boliches if they knew where Salome was cause I wanted to go there.


I was in Shampoo recently. I talked to a pretty girl and asked her what she charged for a salida. She said to me $250 pesos for an hour and a half. Remembering what I read here, I told her that was more than I could afford and offered her $200 pesos for two hours. She told me that she was one of the chicas that charged the least and didn't budge. She said that the club only gave them one hour and a half. I would have paid the $250 but I want two hours for that amount. I must smell like money. What are you doing, BAPunter, to get them a little more reasonable?

On the following day I went to 2254 French street, tel 4825-9168/9370. $200 pesos for some great sex. She was tall, thin and gorgeous and an expert deliverer of sensual pleasures. Sorry, I didn't get her name. As the other post says, you gotta call first.

This site rocks.

First, let me answer the questions I remember.

The address of Shampoo is 362 Pres. Quintara. It´s about a block further towards downtown than Blacks.

Saint, I did read Umgmans report about Camil. I think she was just in a bad mood when I saw her. She just looked really pissed off. Her fee was 200 pesos and she was exactly on time. Since she doesn´t show her face in her pictures, here´s a little description. She´s tan and has a lot of freckles. She has that classic Latina hottie thing going on. She wasn´t as open to suggestions for things to do as most of the other girls I´ve seen.

I was at Sodama last time I was here. I wasn´t very impressed. I almost went there last night, but decided against. I might go there tonight just to check things out.

I´d loved to see if I could set something up with the dancer in Shampoo, but I just don´t see an opportunity. She dances then goes to a back room. I might be able to intercept her when she comes out to go to the bathroom, but that doesn´t seem right. She doesn´t hang out in the main room.

Here´s my report on last night.

Contrary to what you might think, the weekends are dead in the clubs. While the rest of BA is party central on Friday and Saturday, the clubs are empty. I asked the girls about this and they said that both the patrons and the girls see their families on the weekends. So plan on being here during a weekday.

I had a specific goal last night. The last time I was here, I had a incredible session with a woman named Fabiona. She might not be to everyone´s liking, she´s 31. She looks great though. What I find so attractive is she´s not harden at all. She blushes and giggles sometimes when I ask her if she´s willing to do this or that. The last time I met up with her was in Affaire. So I went there at around 11:30. I was the only guy there. Inflation has hit. A few months ago, it only cost 10 pesos to get in. Last night it cost 30. You get 3 drinks with that. I don´t frequent Affaire because there aren´t very good pickins there. Since Fabiona wasn´t there I gulped down 2 drinks and left.

Next I went to PlayWoman, it was about 12:15 when I got there. It was much more lively then it was Saturday night. There were actually quite a few girls I have never seen before. But alas none to my liking.

I decided to walk over to Shampoo. There was a girl there Saturday night. Long blond hair, quite lovely. I don´t know if she was working though. She had her purse and coat with her. Most girls check that stuff away. I just wanted to investigate.

Anyways, on my way there I decided to duck into NewPort. I´ve never been in there before since the women don´t look so great looking in from the window. But, why not I thought. There´s no entrance fee. I walk in, have a quick look around and decide to leave. On my way out, I see a girl staring at me. I do a double take. It´s Fabiona. YES!!! We get reacquainted and quickly decide to head back to my hotel. I bought drinks while we talked, which ended up being 18 pesos. Fabiona, what can I say. I ¨love¨her. She takes her time warming you up. She also is the only girl that takes a shower before the session. I appreciate that considering what they´ve been doing all night. She loves to kiss. We did that for about 20 minutes. She also motors on, no breaks to rest etc. I gave her 200 pesos for the session. I didn´t negoitiate. She also didn´t ask for cab fare so I gave her 10 dollars for that and as a little tip. I always tip for good performance. She was with me for about 2 hours.

What amazes me is that I´ve seen 2 girls that I saw the last time I was here. Fabiona, like the other one, remembered me. She remebered my name and where I was from and what I liked to do. I had only seen her once before a few months back. Amazing.

Some miscellaneous comments.

Do try to get out of Recoleta. It´s easy to get stuck within the few blocks here since everything you need is here. I went down to Puerto Maderno Saturday night for dinner. It´s a very modern part of town. It´s where a lot of the international conglomerates are located. You can get a great meal for not much more than in Recoleta without all the tourists.

I guess Etoile provides free rides to and from the airport. I´ve always turn them down when they ask if I need a car since I thought you had to pay for it. But this morning I got a call from some guy asking to set up a time for my car to the airport when I leave. I thought it was just some hustler so I tried brushing him off. He said that Maria, the reservation lady, asked him to call and that it was free. It´ll save you about 40 pesos each way from and to the airport if you are staying at Etoile.

Don´t worry about how good or bad the breakfast is at any of these hotels. You won´t be up in time for them anyways if you are with a lady until the wee hours of the morning.

I have question. Does the French st place have showers? My flight is at night and I might want some day time action to pass the time. Since I will be without a room, I´d like to shower up before hopping on the plane.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ferolga777
[i]Leo

I was in Shampoo recently. I talked to a pretty girl and asked her what she charged for a salida. She said to me $250 pesos for an hour and a half. Remembering what I read here, I told her that was more than I could afford and offered her $200 pesos for two hours. She told me that she was one of the chicas that charged the least and didn't budge. She said that the club only gave them one hour and a half. I would have paid the $250 but I want two hours for that amount. I must smell like money. What are you doing, BAPunter, to get them a little more reasonable?

On the following day I went to 2254 French street, tel 4825-9168/9370. $200 pesos for some great sex. She was tall, thin and gorgeous and an expert deliverer of sensual pleasures. Sorry, I didn't get her name. As the other post says, you gotta call first.

This site rocks. [/i][/QUOTE]

hmmm, sound like very different stories on shampoo. bapunter wrote that his impression was prices well lower (8/10/02). hopefully we get a few more data points on shampoo in the next few days? (i leave for recife on my way to b.a. on friday).

more details(!) please on 2254 (another place with posts listing widely varried results):

what day of the week was it?
what time was it?

since i'm only in for 3 days, these details is very nice to see.

last, yes, it does rock!

We do need more data points on Shampoo. Since I´ve only seen one girl there, it may have been a fluke.

I always thought the girls set the time and the prices. The clubs make money off of the exit drinks. I´ve never heard of a club putting a time limit on a session.

Well I heard the time limit from a girl from Black, one from Playwoman and one from Shampoo. But the time limit of the other two was two hours. Shampoo chica's was one and a half hours. I want to know if I was lied to 'cause I smell like money. Or worse.

The French street place has showers. I took one before and after, the chicas like clean hombres. BAPunter, tell them what you want over the phone that way I guess they'll book one that appeals to you. The girl that took care of me was very pretty. Didn't get her name. I went in the afternoon. I called one hour ahead. I was taken to a nice and well appointed room.

if i read the map correctly, 2254 french st is right around the corner from artsuites - can anyone confirm this?

is the place set up so if you're not happy with the looks of the girl they've selected for you when you call ahead that you have an opportunity to select a different girl, or walk out without service?

thanks.

ferolga777, thanks for the shower info at French st. Maybe it´s the time of night that affects whether the timelimit kicks in or not. I´ve noticed that if you leave the club around midnight or so, they do kind of hurry to get back to the club. I always thought that was because they just wanted to get another client. When we leave at around 2 in the morning, they don´t seem to be in a rush at all since the club will be closed by 4. I´ve never had a girl say she had to be back at a certain time. Most of them offer all nighters.

Last night I started around 12:15 by going to Shampoo. The hot dancer wasn´t working which is my main reason for going there. Once again, I wished the waitresses worked. There were about the same, 6 or so, girls working when I first showed up. The girl I had a great session with before hopped out of a cab and came in right behind me. I guess they have to pay admission as well. She got two drink tickets instead of one though. She remembered me and we talked for a while. She said to call her over if I wanted a repeat. The girls tend to duck into the restroom with drinks in hand for about 10 minutes at a time. There must be a lounge in there. I stayed for about an hour. During that time the place filled up with girls. The most I´ve ever seen there. Mostly 5-7s with about two 8s. The place is fairly dark like most of the clubs. If you sit at a table, there is this shaft of light that comes down so you can get a good look when you talk to them. Make sure you get a good look. Most of them look great from about 4 feet away in the dark, but in the light .... I was going to take the night off and I was just browsing so I left to go to PlayWoman.

I got there about 1:30. About the same as usual. Let me say that the PlayWoman girls have the niciest attitude. I regularly get chatted up by a girl. She asks if I want her. I say no and she asks if there is anyone else she can get for me. Anyways this girl comes over and sits down with me. I´ve talked to her before but I´ve never had a session. I buy her a drink with just the intention to talk. She starts to warm me up in all the right places. Next thing I know, we´re headed back to my hotel. I´m weak. Lola has a really pretty face and a good body. She isn´t all tarted up like most of the others. She´s just dressed in jeans and a t shirt like she´s going shopping or something. She definitely looks like the girl next door. She was great. She likes to watch though. She positioned me next to the full length mirror in the room. We never made it to the bed. At first, she asked for an unheard of $100 at PlayWoman. I balked at this and talked her down to $60. Unlike other girls, she didn´t seem disappointed at all. She was very playful through the negoitiations. It didn´t affect her performance. If she had been anymore enthusiastic, she would have killed me. I gave her a $10 tip. She´s in my BA top 3.

I keep forgetting to say this. When I was leaving for a session from Blacks the other night. I overheard two Argentinos say ¨todos los americanos¨. It´s funny yet sad. There are a lot of us at Blacks. I hope we aren´t messing it up for the locals.

Great info BAPunter.

One way to get around the time restriction issue is to pay the all night drink fee instead of the short-time drink fee. I almost always did this. Before you do this, negotiate with the girl and tell her that you'll buy her out of the club for the entire night. I think most of the girls will give you more time this way. This way, if they want to go back they can but if they don't want to they are not obligated to going back.

Before doing this make sure you ask the girl for more time if you do this. While I was at Playwoman I always paid the 5 drink fee instead of the 2 drink fee so the girl would not have an excuse to say she had to go back. None of the girls I picked were in a hurry to leave. In fact, with the girls I didn't do an all nighter with...I had to tell them they could leave. This might solve your problem. Some girls you'll feel like holding all night in your arms. Others you will be ready to toss out the door after a few hours only in anticipation of the next girl. Good luck.

>I keep forgetting to say this. When I was leaving for a session from Blacks >the other night. I overheard two Argentinos say ¨todos los americanos¨. >It´s funny yet sad. There are a lot of us at Blacks. I hope we aren´t >messing it up for the locals. [/i][/QUOTE]

Exactly. By paying the "American" rates you are just making it harder for our brothers from Argentina to survive in difficult economic circumstances and be able to hobby.

Always try to keep the prices in accord with the local rates while being a gentleman and tipping generously for good service rendered.

Question????
Is there a very strict policy in the major clubs - Blacks, Playwoman & Shampu regarding the non pro employees and working after hours ie waitresses and dancers. Could one ask a waiter to have a particular dancer join you for a drink between performances? Has anyone had any luck with the "help"....

And also are there really unescorted non-pro's in the clubs? This is hard to believe?

Thanks for the info Saint. Now, if the chicas were so clear about it...

The French Street house. You can accept who opens the door or ask to see others. You might have to come back later. The minimum is one hour. It takes me one hour to get it up.

Concerning the French street place and the question about choosing another girl....Merium (the madame) is very accommodating. When I went there, I just waited in a nice room while drinking a beer they gave me. The girls walked in one at a time and introduced themselves. Then Merium walks back in and asks your decision. She only requests that we call ahead for a reservation so that we don't run into other men there....very discrete.