I think you probably picked Pamela, since pomelo is a grapefruit.
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I think you probably picked Pamela, since pomelo is a grapefruit.
Yes, Pomelo is a fruit and she is just as sweet. I had to say it. Her name is Pomelo. She has business cards and she gave me one. She has an exotic look. She darkish but with blue eyes. They could be contacts.
For 80 pesos [b]total[/b] you can go to Maipú 359 and any one of the girls there will let you CIM and that price is for an hour. I like 1707 but I don't like paying some indeterminate and ever-changing extra price for this, that, and the other thing.
Why not just negotiate for BBJ and then blow your load without warning? What are they going to do, sue you?
[QUOTE=Dickhead]Why not just negotiate for BBJ and then blow your load without warning? What are they going to do, sue you?[/QUOTE]I have actually tried that a few times, sometimes they don't seem to mind and sometimes you have to listen to 10 minutes of BS about " why didn't you warn me". And then I have to pretend to apologize and say " because of your superior cocksucking abilities there was no way I could hold back, so you see my dear it's actually YOUR fault" hehe yeah right.
I have never payed for a CIM. In my book, its included in the BBBJ surcharge.
I've never paid for either one.
If the girl doesn't say one way or the other, I do just that. But if they explicitly say not to, I don't. I give fair warning. It wouldn't be right to do otherwise. It's an agreement. I would be pissed if a girl promised something and didn't deliver. It is just as wrong to agree to something and not follow through.
[QUOTE=Dickhead]Why not just negotiate for BBJ and then blow your load without warning? What are they going to do, sue you?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I agree. If they say, "No acabes en mi boca" then I don't. But if they don't say anything and I do blow in their mouth, and they get pissed, I just say, "What did you think would happen if you kept doing that?" But 30 pesos extra for BBJ at 1707 Santa Fe is similarly bullshit since there is no guarantee how long or how enthusiastic said BBJ will be.
BTW I once asked a hooker if they get told in sex education that it is safer to spit it out than to swallow it and she said yes. And since she only went through seventh grade, they must get told this fairly early. I guess public school sex education is a bit better here than in the US.
I am still moarning the loss of my Paraguayan favorita on the night shift. I hadn't been around during the day shift in a while so I decided to give them a try yesterday. I went there with Natalia in mind because I was in the mood for a good bbbj. I first came here in February left and then came back. I was shocked at how the little bit of time had ravaged both Bianca and Natalia. They both looked really bad-- like sick. When I first got here Bianca was breaking in the face but her body was still smoking and Natalia was a knockout IMHO. I don't know what they've been up to (besides sucking random cocks for a living) but they need to stop it immediately. Of course Sol is still Sol. Anyway when confronted with the lineup I allowed myself to be blindsided by the glitz and glamour of the new. When I was first greeted by Belen I thought, wow, what a hottie. When I saw Belen going and got a look at her ass I felt the rumble of the pesos in my pocket playing double-dutch with my weiner. So off we go to the little room upstairs and a little voice in my head tells me that I made a mistake. We start to fool around and it becomes the classic sex-prison ***** experience. No besos, mildly functional bbbj, no DATY, no fun. Well, actually I wouldn't say "no fun" at all because I did enjoy pounding her doogie style while looking at that fabulous ass. Really her ass is amazing. Also she was very nice and not an obvious clock watcher (although she was definately out of there in an hour) In all fairness it was below average for Santa Fe and for Argentina in general but would have been average for a hooker experience in the U. S.
Big Bob,
I agree with you. Someone Bianca's face and Nati's body had suffer.
From just a few months. The difference is very evident.
BTW, the you ever met Analia?
SF is still a good value and Nati's BJ is still one of the best.
DWC
I got tired of all that great cheap pussy at Maipu 359 and decided to do something different today. Actually I was hanging out at Ateneo yesterday and in the neighborhood so, on a whim, I went up for my first half hour session at this place. I had Natalia in mind but she was busy seperating some other happy monger from his load. I had a choice of 3 girls, all blondes, including Sol which means that I had a choice of 2 girls. I chose the cutie with the nicest greet whose name I think was Augustiana or something close to that. Its not her real name anyway so what difference does it make. She is a cutie, not blazing hot, but nice in the style of the girl next door. She asked me if I wanted to clean up first and I said " sure". Then she comes dragging this big ass jug of water in to the bathroom after me. Apparently the water had been shut off there about 30 minutes before I came and it stayed off for the duration of my stay. Now I don't want to gross anyone out so I will just say that if there is anyplace on Earth that needs running water and a functioning bathroom it is a whorehouse and in retrospect I think that it is pretty out of order that the Madam didn't mention this when I first came in. If I had paid for an hour session like I usually do this would have been a deal breaker but since I was just there for a BJ "segui adelante". If someone has been there since then let us know what the situation is now because my companion told me that they were planning to bring in a larger jug of water to solve the problem and that would not have been the solution that I would have had in mind.
Anyway I cleaned off the best way that I could and proceeded with the session. We start making out and at first she only offered LFK and I had the first pang of regret that perhaps I would be logging in another bullshit experience at this apartment (after my session with Belen) but she loosened up and we went from MFK to DFK in no time. She motioned South and asked if I wanted a BBBJ or a CBJ and I asked for the BBBJ. She asked for 40 pesos extra and I'm sorry to say that I agreed without argument. Sometimes I just want to fuck and don't feel like negotiating but I think that I could have talked her down to 30 and she would have excepted. If I session with her again I'll talk her down for "the greater good". Before getting to work she made me promise not to come in her mouth and I suddenly remembered why I stopped coming to this apartment in the first place. I agreed and she starts sucking and giving me the kind of BJ that I hate the most. One that looks great but doesn't feel like jackshit. I tell her "mas fuerte" and all of the sudden she starts giving me an excellent BBBJ. The difference was so pronounced that I wonder if she knew that she was bullshitting before and me saying something snapped her out of it and actually put her to work. Or could it be that some other guy actually likes that bullshit that she was doing before. In the past when I got bad service from a ***** sometimes I would think that she was inexperienced but this situation really opened my eyes to the importance of stepping up and having the "nuts" to demand the service that you want. Maybe she started out half-assing because I didn't try to negotiate in the beginning and she felt like she could take advantage. Anyway, I was relaxing and enjoying her handywork (or maybe I should say "mouthywork") when all of the sudden she starts pulling away whenever I take a deep breath or make any sounds of pleasure. I tell her, "No te preocupes. No voy a acabar en la boca" and she continues. She starts using her hand and jerking me off while she is sucking then over time she starts sliding her mouth little by little off of my cock until she is actually just giving me a bullshit HJ and licking the tip of my cock. I tell her "La boca, la boca" and she goes back to using more of her mouth. Then I decide that I am about ready to blow my load so I grab the back of her head and start pushing her head down on my cock. I do it faster and faster and harder and harder all the time not sure about how she will react. Then she starts moaning and sucking like a pro. She was really getting into it and just as I was thinking that maybe this apartment wasn't so bad after all I realized that I was about to come so I tell her "Voy a correr" and she pulled her mouth away but as she's jacking me off she starts to lick my balls. I wasn't expecting that attention to the balls and I have to admit that it was a nice touch and I busted a huge satisfying nut.
We relaxed and cuddled together for a while and talked. She turned out to be a really nice girl. She lives about 2 hours away from Buenos Aires and as a result actually lives there in the apartment. She said that she is available 24 hours a day when she is there and goes home some weekends. I would recommend her for an experienced Spanish speaking monger. She definately has a tendency for laziness on the job but if you take charge of the session she will get to work. The knock at the door came and I dressed to leave. She started asking me about what I like to do in town and we started talking about boliches and bars that she likes. Then in a really bizarre moment we wound up dancing salsa a capella for about 5 minutes after the session was over. She's a young girl locked up in an apartment all day with nothing to do but suck cocks so you can do the math. She might be a good candidate for take out but unfortunately there are some girls at Maipu in line before her.
I want to preface this post by saying that I made a couple of mistakes which led to a bad situation here. As a result I will not be playing the victim or calling for a ban of this place. (I'm smart enough to know that you can't put a ban on pussy anyway. I have been in Buenos Aires since February and when I first arrived I had a pretty good opinion of this place. When I first got here I was disappointed about the apparent lack of young beautiful talent (coming directly from Costa Rica) and when I cane to this privado the first time it was like the answer to all of my prayers. Sure there were some dogs, like everywhere else, but to me this place was an improvement on the limited experience that I had at that time (Excedra and Orleans) I had seen some good prospects at Cocodrilo (which I think has subsequently gone down as well) but the service that I received from girls there was really hit and miss. What I liked about Santa Fe was that for some reason they used to have sort of a customer service quality standard where the girl seemed to be trying to actually do her job properly and get you off.
What I have noticed recently is that this has changed. Out of the past 4 times that I have visited this place I have had 3 bad experiences and 1 decent experience (but not great) This is not counting the most recent horrible experience that I had here. Previously I went to this place numerous times on the day and night shift and the only really bad experience that I ever had was with Bianca and it had more to do with her attitude more than anything. But as bad as it was she still did her job and fucked my brains out. What annoyed me was that in the end she started trying to rush me into cumming and then she pulled the silent treatment after washing up in an attempt to end the session early. She had a bad attitude but I have to admit she still did a good job of getting my rocks off.
I had some less than stellar sessions with Dana but she is just young and really can't fuck that well. Dana is a genuine GFE though and good for takeout if you are not into really having someone fuck your brains out and are in it for the company. Also what I liked about her is that she didn't do anything extra except a really sad BBBJ, and she knew it, so there was no pressure at all from her to upsell her services.
Now things at Santa Fe are really starting to resemble sex-prison. I have had sessions there recently where I really doubted wether are not I was going to get my rocks off at all, including this most recent time, as a result of bad performance from the provider. I went there yesterday during the morning because I was walking down Santa Fe and, after seeing a hot college co-ed type chick in some amazing low-rise jeans, suddenly had a strong desire to have my cock deep inside a girls ass. I went there, again, with the idea of sessioning with Natalia. Wouldn't you know it, after seeing the line up I was presented by everyone on the day shift EXCEPT her. I was so focused on the anal and just wanting a good performance that I almost picked Bianca because I know she gives good ass even with her other problems. I didn't pick her because she has SERIOUSLY deteriorated in recent months and she really looks like a monster and that is no exageration. Her face is terrible. Actually, fellow mongers, you will probably have a hard time believing this but Sol is one of the hottest girls on the day shift at Santa Fe right now (although frequently singled out on numerous boards as being a less than average provider)
I decided to take a chance on the one girl I had never sessioned with, Barbi. To be honest I chose her because to me she has the look of a faded beauty. I thought that, in her, I might find the right mixture of experience, confidence, and humility (courtesy of the ravages of father time) that makes for a good anal provider. The mistake that I made was choosing her for the hour. As a rule I usually choose the half hour option and upgrade in the middle if things are going well with a new girl but I didn't want to have to interrumpt the flow of the session by asking for more time and paying in the middle. I hate renegotiating when my mind is really on fucking.
Anyway we go to the room and get started and right away she doesn't want to kiss. She starts kissing me like my grandmother or something. This is something new at Santa Fe because when I first started coming here all of the girls would at least MFK. Then I notice that she put this lotion all over her body and she is all slimy. I also got a good look at her tits which are sagging and about 5 years from looking like a couple of country flapjacks. Anyway she does the standard Santa Fe bullshit routine of pausing before the BJ so that she can try to upsell me on a BBBJ. She says that she will do the BBBJ for a tip and I say fine. Mistake number 2 was that I didn't ask how much for the BBBJ but I had been there so much that I figured it would be between 30 and 40 pesos. Fine so now she starts giving me the standard bullshit barely licking your cock can't feel a damn thing Santa Fe BBBJ. I let her get away with it for a while because I figure that maybe it will build up to something. When it doesn't I tell her to do it harder. The long and short of it is that this chick can't blow. Not even with instructions and a manual.
Fine, I tell myself, on to the pussy for a minute and then the ass. We start in doggie and I discovered that she's pretty good at it considering that all she has to do is lay on her belly and spread her fucking legs. This was the highlight of the session and it was really great as long as I didn't focus on her thin but, somehow, still flabby ass and convinced myself that I was fucking some other hot chick. This is a testiment to how lame a fuck this girl is because I don't think that I have ever had to use my imagination to stay interested in fucking even a non-pro the first time I'm sleeping with her. That doesn't usually happen with me until like months into a relationship when the newness of the pussy is wearing off. Then we go into missionary for a bit and I'm ready for the ass. Now I asked the madam if she does "completo" and she told me yes before I agreed to the session so I'm thinking that it is going to be smooth sailing.
I put a finger in and she announce that another tip is in order. "Fine", I say, "How much". Before I continue I have to say that I hate negotiating like this with my dick in a bitches pussy but it is really my own fault for not getting all of this together beforehand. She counters with, "How much do you think it should be" or some bullshit like that. So I say,"what 60 pesos" thinking 60 pesos altogether 30 for the BBBJ and 30 for the culo. The most that I have ever paid for this was the one time I fucked Bianca in February when she asked for an equally ridiculous 100 pesos for BJ and culo (I made the newbie mistake of telling her that I was from the States and new to Buenos Aires) and I talked her down to 70. I have been living in the ass of that Blond Paraguayan on the nightshift (I think her name is Julia) and she doesn't even charge a tip. She accepts whatever I give her. Her face is not all that but her body is 10 times better than Barbi's. She makes a motion like forget about it and motions to keep fucking her pussy. Then she pulls this shit like her ass is so precious that she is not even going to tell me how much it costs because I can't afford it. I can't believe this shit. Did I just get teleported back to the U. S. Somehow? I'm like, "how much". She persists saying "no importa". She finally counters with 100 PESOS for the ass alone and 40PESOS for that bullshit that she was trying to pass off as a BBBJ.
I start laughing out loud with her looking up at me while my dick is still in her pussy. I tell her how many times I've been there and what the other girls charge and she insists on that ridiculous price so I get pissed off and just start banging her as hard as I possibly can. She has this look of pain on her face and I start sweating profusely from all of the work I'm putting into pounding her. I realize that I can pop this way fueled by anger and agression but not by arousal but I suddenly woke up to the fact that I came here for some ass and that I'm not getting any. Suddenly I realize that I don't even want to see this ***** and I'm not going to waste this load on her. I realized right then that I'd rather shoot this off at Maipu 359 where I would be fucked properly.
I have never done this before but I got off of her without cumming and started putting my clothes on. I tell her to get the madam and let her know that I just want 30 minutes and she can give me my money back. She starts saying that it has been 40 minutes already which is bullshit because I always pay attention to what time it is when I walk in the door and it had been 30 minutes to the second. So I argue with the madam and she refuses to refund the money so I just left. I was so pissed off that I made it all the way to Maipu before I realized that I had my shirt on inside out. The story on that later in the Maipu thread. The moral of this story is that this place is going the way of Black in the sense that these chicks want to get paid exorbitant prices for really lame service. Here at Santa Fe there is the added problem that these chicks are not hot enough to demand that money based on your standard "lifeless corpse" chica performance. I am sad to say that I will not be returning here and I hope that these changes that I have seen are a reflection of only this privado and not of a direction that the chica scene in general is taking here in Buenos Aires.
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Hi Big Bob 7,
This place doesn't give a flying fuck about it's customers.
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Great reports, Big Bob. Really great. Sorry to hear about your bad times, but thanks for taking the time to write them up.
SL
Santa Fe 1707 = 100 + no BBJ unless "tip" + no CIM + no anal unless "tip" + unhappy campers working there and jealousy bullshit + endless whining for tips + telling you to go wait in the fucking [b]staircase[/b] for Christ's fucking sake + madam is a kunt
OR
Maipú 359 = 80 (or 75, or 70, or ?) + BBJTCIM [b]guaranteed[/b] or all over their face or all over their tits or whatever + anal for you sick fucks who are into that + happy campers who share and are largely bisexual - okay no water today. + never heard the word "tip" here and don't know what it means anyway + want to fuck the madam.
I guess you can do the math.
I agree that Maipu is better than Santa Fe 1707 in every regard, but I tip every time I go to Maipu 359. Not because I think it influences their performance, but because I actually like the girls.
I like the women too but tipping is a stupid American concept and just makes you look like (and actually [b]be[/b]) a chump down here. Tipping sucks, okay? Set a price and live with it.
So if anyone can explain to me the concept of how the price is stated as X but really "should" be (x + some arbitrary and stupid additional percentage) = Y, then how was the price X to begin with??? then I will understand tipping and until and unless that happens, [b]what the fuck is the point of having some stated price when you are really expected to pay some other, higher price?[/b] And, to answer my own question, you are [b]not[/b] supposed to pay some other higher price here in Latin America, and to do so is very similar to [b]shitting in your hat before you put it on your head[/b].
So to summarize: If you pay the quoted, local price and treat them well, they will respect you. If you pay some idiotic gringo price, they will not respect you. If you obtain the local price, and then proceed to tip them, without receiving anything special, they will mark you as someone to be taken advantage of. And yes, JengisKhan, they have marked (at 359) you as someone to be taken advantage of, and have explained to me how you pay for an hour and get 35 or 40 minutes because you love them so much. That is fine if it works for you.