Buenos Aires - 2002 Reports

[QUOTE]Originally posted by saint
[i]First of all Bandy GREAT report!

Second the motion. Bandy's report is a monger classic. I should add that it was great mongering with him last week in Buenos Aires, and promise to pass on the abandoned massage lotion to Venus and hopefully meet up in the near future with the Elizabeth Hurley lookalike at Madahos. BA_Robert unfortunately missed the opportunity last night, as she is a star and we didn't move fast enough.

As for the quality going down in BA this is my first monger visit so I have nothing to compare it with. If Playwoman was once filled with top chicas its not now but there are gems among the skank and there are still plenty of hotties in Affaire Recoleta, Blacks, Shampoo and Madahos. The ratio of men to women on an off night - Saturday, Sunday and Monday - can be as much as three to one, with the Argentine men not taking anyone out because they can't afford it. So it's still very much hobby heaven.

A Monger research team assembles as usual in the lobby of Etoile at 10pm to carry on the noble mission of the AMA (Argentine Monger Association) and our illustrious founder Jackson.

All Mongers are Welcome.

good reports from the latest travel team, looking forward to more from this trip.

but with numerous mention of "10p etoile lobby" as the jumping off point for each night, and combining that with the questioning thought of just how many women/establishments really follow along here online...

- - - i mean, if i was a ba working chica that could read english, and knew about this board and read it frequently, i'd certainly be stopping by or very near the etoile around 10p... whether to 'get picked up', maybe just to be noticed, or maybe just to without-being-seen see the faces of the men that i might run into later and take note - - -


... if it happens, and you figure it out, please be sure to post the interesting story!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by leo
[i]good reports from the latest travel team, looking forward to more from this trip.

but with numerous mention of "10p etoile lobby" as the jumping off point for each night, and combining that with the questioning thought of just how many women/establishments really follow along here online...

- - - i mean, if i was a ba working chica that could read english, and knew about this board and read it frequently, i'd certainly be stopping by or very near the etoile around 10p... whether to 'get picked up', maybe just to be noticed, or maybe just to without-being-seen see the faces of the men that i might run into later and take note - - -

... if it happens, and you figure it out, please be sure to post the interesting story! [/i][/QUOTE]

Yes indeed. This is a good point. I've only met one chica so far in the clubs that can speak English well other then the few hobby words like "hundred dollars", "fucky fucky sucky sucky". I suspect the chicas most be from the lower classes, since far more middle class chicas have studied English and speak it. If the economy continues to go down I suspect more middle class chicas will join the ranks of the chicas and there will be more English.

However I haven't met a single chica that didn't have an email account at Yahoo, Hotmail, etc, so I think it's only a matter of time before the scene evolves, more English speaking chicas work the trade and chicas are online reading this forum and collecting valuable infomation as well, and using it to advantage. I know on the Romanian WSF forum there is a poster called Frenchman that is really Bucharest Girl, that promotes her service under the guise of being a monger, linking to her website and extolling her erotic skills, albeit at a high price.

I expect soon all this will evolve and there will be a World Sex Forum from the other side, in Spanish for chicas, reviewing mongers, not so much from the performance level, common on a monger list, but more concerning the rates and what one can charge what and to whom. That will be interesting.

Saint, yes I was there when you met her. You came in to Playwoman with your large size friend many months ago. Ah.. those were the days.

Saint, there´s something I want to mention to you but don´t want to send it to the list. Do you have an email I could send it to? Do we have PM on this board?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by saint
them often. In fact, "justgotback" I know the girl you saw very, very well. To give you an idea, she is very happy the quality has

I agree with this. I´ve met a few women in the internet cafes, they lean over to ask me a computer question. All of them spoke great english. Most are just standard office worker types.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by jamesbond69
words like "hundred dollars", "fucky fucky sucky sucky". I suspect the chicas most be from the lower classes, since far more middle class chicas have studied English and speak it. If the economy

I think 100 pesos is a little low. I generally agree to 150 pesos. 200 if she´s very hot or if I know her already. Trying to be generous. I´ve also been known to give out 300 if the girl is unbelievably hot.

Don´t forget about the other costs. 20-25 pesos to get in a club with one drink included. I generally go to 2 or 3 clubs before deciding on a girl. Sometimes I go back to a previous club if the later ones are dry. Then the bar tab for the girl. I´ve been charged 60-120 pesos. Even at the same club. One night I go in and it´s 60, the next night it´s 120 for the same drinks. Playwoman is especially bad at this.

Figure another 20-30 pesos on tips for the waitress, doorman, etc.

In total, I generally budget 300-400 or so for a short session with a girl. TLN is better value.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by zde
[i]Hello again: Please let me know whether I understand the scene correctly. Full service for two hours by a girl from a club costs on average about 100 pesos. Is that right? I was also

Justgotback. My email is saintofba@hotmail.com. And please just refer to my friends as my friends. No need to mention size, race, religion or any other descriptions. No offense but it's not very polite.

The vast number of girls do not know of specific website addresses and hopefully it stays that way for a while but many of you have big mouths. Do NOT ever mention internet sites. I agree that public sites are helpful to the vast majority but due to indiscreet guys I am looking forward to the private site going up soon and utilizing the other private sites I belong to. In fact, probably all future trip reports might not give specific names of girls I see and I won't email any more pics out to you guys. (Sorry but most of my pictures are on pay sites that ensure that girls can't see them without a password).

Saint

[QUOTE]Originally posted by justgotback
[i]Even at the same club. One night I go in and it´s 60, the next night it´s 120 for the same drinks. Playwoman is especially bad at this.
[/i][/QUOTE]

These clubs all have so many tricks, most around the price of the drinks/exit fees.

Some clubs, some nights exit drinks can only be champagne and cost 60 pesos each for two drinks, some nights they can be two beers for 40.

I think it's what ever they can get away with. If you argue it and they think you will return they will usually give you a break. The scams are endless. Some clubs like Playwoman and Solid Gold ( I call this club Solid Silicon) have free admission - no drink tickets at the door but once you enter the waitresses are all over you to buy a drink, so why not just charge at the door like most of the other clubs?

If you come early to Solid Sold you see the prettiest chicas dancing, only to find out when the customers arrive that they really waitresses and not for take-out.

I made the mistake of setting down with one of these "waitresses", only to have another waitress rush over and set down a drink at our table. Presumably i was set up to buy a waitress a drink from another waitress.

it's all kind of interesting to get into the mindset of the clubs and figure all the schemes they have to get as much money (drinks) as possible from the customers.

ZDE:

Some people speak English, but not most of them.

Respect to cultural venues, Buenos Aires is as active as New York or London:

- Corrientes Av between Callao Av and 9 de Julio Av has dozens of cafe concerts, movie theaters, libraries, music halls and the like.

- The Museo Nacional de Bellas Artes (Libertador Av and Pueyredon Av, Recoleta) has great collection of local and European artwork.

- Teatro Colon is a place to go if you are into Opera and classical music.

- In Clarin newspaper of Friday, you can find all the shows and performances that are in town for the weekend.

- For visitors, there is a lot of tang shows and concerts.

Argentina is a very big country in extension, so it's difficult to go to nearby countries like in Europe, with the exception of going to Uruguay from Buenos Aires.

Student unions are usually not much organized for foreign visitors, as far as I know, so don't count on them too much. They may ask you for money.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Jamesbond69:

Even though the issue was discussed before, please try to stick to the local price as much as possible. Otherwise, girls will start raising the bar and I will become reluctant to report from places that cater to locals.

Andres

[blue]Exactly how I feel on the subject.

Jackson[/blue]

I agree. And really appreciate your posts about the local places. I don't just want to go to the Recoleta places all the time and really enjoyed myself at Nuevo Estilo Boliche. And even in Recoleta i make a point to never pay over 200 pesos, even for TLN.

For example last night I turned down an offer to leave with one of the superstars of Blacks on principle, since she wanted 300 pesos short stay and my limit was 200. Now the 100 pesos difference wouldn't kill me - it's only $25us - but I just didn't feel it really represented realistic real market conditions, as I could get a great chica downtown for 100 and in recoleta for 100-200, so that's the price guidelines i stick to, in line with the local rates in the clubs I go to.

And mind you. 300 pesos for short stay is real money in Buenos Aires now. A waitress makes only 500 a MONTH

[blue]What, do you mean to tell me that your dick DOESN'T get bigger if you pay more?[/blue]

Nice Report Bandy.
In regards to Area-VIP, Cynthia y Milagros:
I had metioned earlier about some 'switching', on the phone even. I had talked to Cynthia over the phone previous nights, in english, and when my time came to make an arrangement, it was someone who only spoke spanish saying they were Cynthia. That didn't work so Milagros was put on line, who spoke english. I just checked Area and Milagros does not seem to be there anymore, but appears to be Cami on Platynum. So, Bandy, are you at liberty to confirm whom your report refers, the pictured Cynthia or Cami on Platynum?
You may have a point with the cell phones but some do have land line #'s and cell #s.
Can someone please provide a quick general location for Madahos as I cannot remember seeing the place or given any cards on the street. Went back a ways on messages, failed to see where it is. Sounds like a good place.

I do envy you guys down there, while myself and the majority play working grunt far away. The posts freshen the memories. Looking for a good business excuss to hit BA again soon.
Middleageguy

Jamesbond69 and others:

Thanks for the compliments. Actually I had written a very detailed report which reads like a movie script, including narrative details leading to each score. It is still in my hard drive. However, in the interest of public space and to save all of you from boring details, I opted for the very abridged version. I had agreat time going out with all of you and missing the actions very much. Some withdrawl symptoms are expected. How is your real estate hunt going on?

Middleageguy: I think the girl who showed up is real Milagros and not Cami. I had a picture of Milagros printed out before. And she somehow resembles her. I have no idea who Cynthia is. The girl who speaks good english is their receptionsist, and she will pretend she is the person you are looking for. This is what Milagros told me. I still think internet is hit and miss. You will have much better time if you pick somebody from the club, even she is not a 10.

Regarding the price of exit fee: In Black it will cost you around 200 with tips. The chica drinks are 50P each. Your drink will run atleast 60P. Then entrance fee, tips etc. Since I do only TLN, I had no problem with the girl's fee at Black. In other venue like Madaho's exit price will run you close to 100 P, with admission and tips.

Regarding english speaking chicas: In my encounters, all but only one could speak fluent english. She is Violeta from Madaho. Her father is american and mother is an english teacher. It was a very interesting experience. I was attracted to her because of her green eyes, shoulder length jet black hair, like Connie Celeca, and perfect english. I was tired of conversing with my not so perfect spanish throught my all other encounters. So I thought here is my chance to learn a lot of this business. we decided on 300 P for a TLN encounter. In the club, cab rides and in the room we talked a lot. I learned lot of details how the club scene works as well as her personal life. She is a second year veterinary student who goes to school everyday from 1 PM to 7 PM and happened to have an Anatomy test next day. We came to the hotel at 4:00 AM and by 5:00 AM, our bedroom olympics session is over. I told her to sleep. However, her eyes was wide open. I asked her what was bothering her. She said she remebered that she parked her car outside of Madaho and it will be towed away after 7:00 AM. Also she has to walk her dogs and study for the test. I immediately paid her the entire 300P and told her to go home, sleep and study for the test. Her whole face got frozen. She repeatedly asked me whether I was angry at her. With all her predicaments she was still willing to keep her end of the bergain and stay at least until 10 AM. During all these discussions, I never mentioned for one moment about paying her less. She gave her phone number and begged me to call her at 6 PM. She will come with her car and show me around Buenos Aires. She was so much taken up by my generosity that she wanted to pay me back any way she can. At that very moment a very ordinary one hour session became a very memorable experience.

Bandy

Middleageguy:

Madaho is at the corner of Vicente Lopez and Azcuenaza. It is the first club in the same block of Playwomen. Madaho, next is Solid Gold and then is Playwomen. All on the same side of the street. Hope it helps.

Bandy

Jamesbond,
You guys still getting toether at Hotel Etoile at 10:00 in the lobby? I am a newbie and plan to be in BA this Friday. I thought it might be a good idea to tag along with the group and get my feet wet in the city. Please let me know if you guys are still getting together, and how I find the group in the lobby. Also, thanks to everyone for all the great the info on this board.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by saint
[i]Justgotback. My email is saintofba@hotmail.com. And please just refer to my friends as my friends. No need to mention size, race, religion or any other descriptions. No offense but it's not very polite.

The preceding message was brought to you by the office of political correctness. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.


I went to check out a couple of the downtown clubs last night, Hook and Gattos. I was planning to go to Pipper and Ness as well, but I didn´t make it. In short, I´m impressed. I had never been out of a Recoleta club before. Both Hook and Gattos had better quality women than Playwoman or the new club that starts with an M the night before. It was almost like the Recoleta clubs of old. They were stratified though. A quarter of them were 2-4s but about 66% of them were 6-8 with one or two 9 and 10s.

I got to Hook at about 11:30. The place was packed with women, 25 or so. There were about 5 guys, many more came in the 45 minutes I was there. It was a younger crowd than the Recoleta clubs. Early 20´s as opposed to late 20´s. The girls definitely had that teenage rebellion thing going on. This is one of those clubs were the girls will approach you. I hadn´t even taken a sip of my beer before the first one latched on. I politely declined and then another one came up. This happened until I left. This solid 9 came in about 5 minutes before I left. Short blond hair, great body, your basic model type. I held off because I wanted to check out the other clubs. My beer was 12 pesos.

I did the 10 second walk to Gattos. My first thought was that I should have come in here first. As I walked in, this absolute knock out 10 was walking out with some guy. I was soon comforted by a 21 year old 8. This club is classier than Hook. Hook kind of had a neighborhood bar feel. The guys were wearing jeans or casual attire. Gattos had a lot guys in it wearing suits. There was a singer on stage initially. Later a dancer came on. The women were also dressed better, some were in evening gowns. About the same proportion of 2-4s vs 6-8s. There were many more customers here. As I mentioned, I didn´t make it to the other two clubs. It was because of that 21 year old 8. She talked me out of it. She asked for 200 pesos. I said OK. It could have been easily negoited since her response was ¨Si? No problema?¨ Sorry for upping the costs, but 200 is the high end of my range. I tend to negoitiate hard if they ask for 300 pesos or 100 dollars, but let it slide otherwise. Cost of drinks, her´s and mine was 30 pesos. That half to a seventh of what it would cost in Recoleta.

What a surprise for me. I thought the downtown clubs were a cut below the Recoleta clubs. It doesn´t seem the case at all. Another plus is that you can just walk in and check out the girls without paying. There were a lot of guys that just came in, had a quick look around and left. Doing that at most of the Recoleta clubs will cost you 20 to 25 pesos. There´s no entrance fee at Hooks or Gattos, just the cost of the drinks. With the plentiful selection of younger women and dirt cheap exit fees, I may never go back to Recoleta again. Who am I kidding, sure I will.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by bandy
[i]Jamesbond69 and others:

How is your real estate hunt going on?

[/i][/QUOTE]

- I'm still at the early stages with looking for an apartment or house to rent/buy in Buenos Aires but like anything else right now there seem to be some real deals around.

- BANDY
Regarding Violeta from Madaho - she sounds terrific!!!Could you PLEASE email me as soon as possible her telephone number and/or email . I definitely want to get together with her.
My email is ww2001us@yahoo.com

- TONIGHT - Special Invitation
Monger Research Team of the AMA (Argentine Mongers Association) has been invited to attend the Special Aniversary Party of Blacks tonight, featuring a bevy of famous Blacks alumni, extra assortment on two floors.

The Research Team meets tonight in the lobby of the Etoile Hotel at 10pm

All Mongers Welcome

[QUOTE]Originally posted by justgotback
[i][QUOTE]Originally posted by saint
[i]With the plentiful selection of younger women and dirt cheap exit fees, I may never go back to Recoleta again. Who am I kidding, sure I will. [/i][/QUOTE]

Recoleta vs. Downtown is a question I agonize about every night.

I think if you are staying in Recoleta it's worth staying there most nights, since you can walk club to club while the downtown clubs are several blocks apart and you will have to taxi between them, with Cutty Sark, Orleans and another club in one area and Ness, Catto's, and Hooks in a different area. And then you have Salome in another area entirely.

Of all the downtown clubs IMHO Hook's is the best and different from the others - more light, more of a dance floor for the chicas to show off their wares. I took a tremendous twenty year out of there for 100 pesos


All the other downtown clubs have this dark paneling , gentleman's club feel to them. It's really hard to get a good luck at there faces, particularly in Catto's. which is as dark as a cave. In general I find the darker the clubs, the older the girls/women.

I find the girls a bit younger and prettier in Recoleta but there are pretty girls in both areas, you just have to look a bit more downtown.

MAJOR plus of downtown: If you are on a budget the price is defintely lower downtown. You can get top girls for150 pesos no problem while in Recolata you might have to bargain them down from asking prices as high as 400 pesos. And the local price/offer of 100 pesos by a gringo are accept, albeit reluctantly - with a chicas hope of a tip for good service.

now that's a post, from justgotback. great detail on times, quantities of girls and guys, costs of entrance, exit, hourly rates, and drinks. excellent!

looking forward to hearing about the blacks anniversary night!

Do Ameriacans need visa to enter Argentina?Can anyone supply me with the answer?

dogdays

As a tourist, you do not need visa for 30 days. However, if you are in a business trip you might reqire one.

Bandy

Dogdays,

Nope. Just a US passport. When you enter Argentina they will stamp your passport with a "90 day" allowance to stay in Argentina. No visa needed. Have fun.

Saint

Does anyone have any eperience with Karen#22 on escortsbaires-thanks for any imfo

Does anyone have a really nice internet girl in Buenos Aires to recommend? I'm getting a bit tired of these hard core club girls that have several men a night.

I'm not particularly interested in the "porno" star type. Big chest, big ass, little chest, little ass is not really important to me. It's all the same.

Looking more for a semi-pro "independent" that does this part time to support herself, maybe just a college girl trying to just pay the bills during the economic crisis, who probably doesn't have the time and inclination to work the clubs at night and has something on the ball, but ever so often picks up a client to pay rent and tuition.

I like the "girl next door" type and GFE. Email the list or privately to ww2001us@yahoo.com

Saint`s right. The stamp in the passport says 3 meses, 3 months.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by saint
[i]Dogdays,

Nope. Just a US passport. When you enter Argentina they will stamp your passport with a "90 day" allowance to stay in Argentina. No visa needed. Have fun.

Saint [/i][/QUOTE]

To break with the program for a sec. I just wanted to mention a couple of things.

First, if you suffer from hay fever, bring your favorite antihistamine. It´s spring bloom season here. I didn´t and got some from a local pharmacist. It doesn´t work for me at all.

Second, there´s that big craft market in the park by the Recoleta cementary. I´ve bought a lot of stuff there and I thought the prices were good. If you wander around the city, there are a lot of markets like that selling the same "handmade" goods. The prices are about half what the tourist prices in Recoleta are.

Third, I wished I bought a $200 Armani suit earlier in the year. Those are all gone now, but the locally made suits are still dirt cheap. Has anyone gotten one? Can you recommend a store?

justgotback:

In Callao Av Between MT Alvear St and Santa Fe Av, there are 7 or more man apparel stores. One of them is called Masters. They make awesome shirts from British fabrics and nice suits from British and Italian wool fabrics. One of these shirts costed me ar$60 in December, while a 3 piece suit was ar$500 (something similar would cost $400 otr more in the US).

In Paraguay St between Florida St and Maipu St there are some shirt stores. I paid ar$70 for a shirt that whould cost $80 in Brooks Brothers.

Also, the Cacharel store in Galerias Pacifico Mall (in front of Cafe Orleans) made me a very good suit 3 years ago, a suit that I use for my interviews in the US. Should be $200.

Hope this helps,

Andres

jamesbond69:

Maru from Platynum may serve you well. Her only weak side is her teeth (some of them are skewed but don't hinder her oral abilites :-)). She was down-to-earth, charged me ar$100 for 1 hour but stayed 2.5 hours. Was close to a GFE.

In December 2001, she was in Downtown, near the Obelisco. Her rates were $60 for a short time and $100 for an hour. Don't know nowadays how much she asks.

Small letter: YMMV. As you know, this is not a 6-sigma process that assures quality.

Hope this helps,

Andres

Hi List,

I've been reading this forum probably since 1998 before I took my first trip to Asia. Believe it or not I came to this site in hopes of using it as a guide to find cheap accomodations, but quickly found the posts to be very entertaining.

Well, here I'm finally posting. I will be going to Europe for the first time (this will be a lot of firsts for me as you'll see) with my fiance and I'm trying to stay on after our trip is over. I want to sew my wild oats there or in South America if I can't stay in Europe. Your posts for BA have really helped. I've been looking for flights incase Prague doesn't come through.

I went out with my fiance for 11 years before proposing, she was my high school sweety, and she's the only person I've ever been with. Lately(last 3 years), I've been feeling like I should go and discover what other women are like. I've often wondered but never acted on it even when women have approached me. Partly because of lack of experience but mostly because I wanted to stay faithful. I guess I've convinced myself that it's better I do it now with a "pro" than after we're married with emotional attachments.

It's taken me a decade, but I've arrived at the decision to "put those thoughts to rest" once and for all by going to either Prague or Buenos Aires for a "fuck fest" till my legs can't support my weight no mo'. I have a feeling my facilities will be those of a teenager getting some for the first time...2 min. man.

I'm not particularly picky as the next woman will be only my second, but I do tend to gravitate towards the light hair, light skinned look. I've been lucky enough to have been with an athletic, well tanned dark haired girl...well always.

This is a self-introduction, as my plans become more concrete, I'll start asking more relevant questions for the appropriate location.

justgotback;

Next time a chica asks for $200 pesos just give her a very polite but sarcastic laugh and she will lower the price. It works for me. Enjoy your stay.......

jodomas

Bandy,

I enjoyed meeting you and JameBond, BA_Robert, etc, at the Etoile. I think when everybody's back in the NY area we should covene the first reunion of the N.A.M.A. North East Division...North American Monger's Association North East Division. Bandy, yes I'd like to get together somewhere in the NY/LI area to talk over our trips, ditto Bond. Please email me privately at lllllnnnnn@aol.com. Hope Bond and BA_Robert are still enjoying their "research." I'm back home here in the NY area and while my body's physically here my heart and soul are back in BA smelling the aromas, strolling the wide avenues, sampling all the great food and drink, especially the wines (I brought back 2 dozen premium bottles of wine) and of course most of all, sampling the lovelies. Now that I'm back home I've got a few nice email relationships going on with a few of the girls I was with and hopefully these relationships will tide me over til the next visit. Talk to you guys soon. DownBA

jamesbond69:

Here in Boston most girls look much worse than her.

Anyway, I just wanted to mention a girl with whom you could get a GFE. Since you mentioned that "Big chest, big ass, little chest, little ass is not really important to me. It's all the same.", I though it would work.

Anyway, no problem.

Andres

I broke from my downtown scouting to see if I could find Violeta based on Brandy´s excellent post. I got to Madaho at about 11:30. It was much better than a couple of nights earlier. Based on his description, I started asking ladies their names. The first was this striking 9, but her name was Cassandra. The next was a really young beauty. Not Violeta either. I decided to ask one of the bartenders. He says he knows her and runs off to get her. It turns out that she was the girl talking to Cassandra when I interrupted them. Everyone´s taste is different, but Violeta doesn´t make the cut for me. She speaks english better than most girls in the clubs, but I´ve run into others that have spoken as well. For me Violeta is about a 6 or so. I then looked for her friend Cassandra hoping that she wouldn´t hold a grudge against me for blowing her off earlier. Sadly, she and the other beauty were both occupied. I left with my head hung low. 20 pesos for the attempt.

I took a taxi back downtown to continue checking out the downtown clubs. I got suckered into the Banana Pub by a hawker. Stay away from here. There were about six 1-3 girls and no customers. This was at about 12:30. I next stepped into Pippers, not much better. I left after about 20 secs. I´m glad there aren´t entrance fees downtown. I passed up Ness and headed back to Hooks since it was the best last time. I must have been drunk the night before. No way is it as good as the Recoleta clubs. I sat down for one drink. There were a couple of beauties there, but they were taken. I paid my 12 pesos and decided to call it a night.

After an hour in my hotel room, I got my second wind and debated going back to Recoleta or trying Gattos. I decided to walk over to Gattos to see if I could find the ¨10¨ from the night before. I walked in and had a seat at the bar. The 21 year old from the night before came over just to say hi. After fending off a couple of 2s, I noticed the ¨10¨ was sitting in the dark recesses of the bar. I gave her a smile and she came over. We settled down at a table and listened to the singer for a while. By the way, the singer is good. I talked price with the ¨10¨. She asked for 200 pesos, I offered 150. She agreed. Back in the light of the hotel, I would give the ¨10¨ a 7 for her face at most, maybe a 6. But her body!! Easily a 12. She looks like she´s an Anime character come to life. I can´t believe she´s all real. There can´t be implants for all those places. But try as I did, I couldn´t find any signs of enhancements. I want the address of her surgeon so I can send him a tip. Her performance was a solid 9. Since it was after 2 by the time we got to my hotel, she was in no hurry to leave. We talked for an hour or so before she asked me if I was up for another round. I was tired and said I was done. I think her name was Aria. She´s about 5 foot 6 inches. Blond hair, very busty, very firm ass and a great tan. She said she was 25 and originally from Mar de Plata. Total cost 150 for the girl, 30 for the drinks and about 20 for miscellaneous tips and taxis. I always give out cab fare to the girl afterwards.

Hi Guys,

I'm a frequent poster on the Philippines side of things but I thought I'd get some intel over here since I'll be heading down to BA in January.

I checked out Area-VIP and was wondering if anyone had a chance to bang Barbi? How real is that site as far as who's knocking at your hotel door compared to who's on the picture at the website?

Also, what are the rates? I don't wanna get bamboozled on my first trip down there.

Thanks in advance!

Internet girls as of this week, about 50% are the girl in the photo, the rest used someone else´s photo or have changed a lot. The going rate, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO ASK, is 100 pesos ($35 USD) for a one hour session at her apartment or your hotel. If you do not speak spanish and/or sound inexperienced, they will sometimes say 100 USD, or 200 pesos an hour, or whatever, or just say Cien or 100 and leave it vague and then ask for 100USD. To avoid any games, I just say when I call, "¿cien pesos por hora, como siempre, verdad?" ($100 PESOS AN HOUR LIKE ALWAYS, RIGHT?) and they sometimes whine and say ok but a little extra for the taxi, OK? Ifyou are feeling generous, one hour for 120 pesos including tip and taxi is a good rate. Some girls ask 150 pesos an hour, and promise they are worth it and I just pay them if they sound really nice, or say OK but then I get 90 minutes, YMMV. By comparison, the average salary for a shopgirl or hotel maid here is 150 pesos A WEEK. Do not base any decision on the fact that the girl says she speaks English on her page, they never really do, maybe a few words. You will be MUCH happier if you learn a little basic spanish B4 you come, or you can hire a tutor/teacher for $5 an hour or less. In general BA is not nearly as wild, cheap, or GFE as the Phillipines, but far less dangerous and more modern. Also the girls are surpirsingly lightskinned, some real blondes and blue eyes, so you can pretend they are the prom queen from back home.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by chuponalgas
a little extra for the taxi, OK? Ifyou are feeling generou, one hour for 120USD including tip and taxi is a good rate. Some girls ask

I hope you meant 120 pesos an hour, not 120USD. I'm sure it's a typo.

I´ve only tried one internet girl ever. I called Camil who had been recommended on this list. I got the old bait and switch. She looked camil like, but unless they airbrushed out all the freckles on her body, it wasn´t her. The girl had a lot of attitude, but not in a good way. She just seemmed angry the whole session.

I went to Neuvo Estilo tonight. It´s a fair distance away. It's to say the least, nondescript. The cabby couldn't find the address so I just asked him to let me off on the corner of the block. I found the address, but first thought that it was closed. Black facade with just a blue light shining along the window. I tried the door and was met by a receptionist. I paid the 15 pesos entrance which includes 1 drink. It's basically as previously described. Real casual bar hangout. When I got there, there were about 15 girls with a table of 7 guys. It was about 11:30. There were about 5 girls I would have liked to have a session with, but I just didn't know how to go about it. The guys were talking amongst themselves. The girls were talking amongst themselves. At the clubs, at least some of them try to make eye contact. In a new place, I try to see how the other guys approach the girls so that I figure out the protocol. A half an hour and one drink later, the only that had changed was that 4 other guys came in. Two sat in a corner table, two sat at the bar. Since the strip show was starting, I ordered another drink to watch it. It was good, but only lasted about 5 minutes. After that one of the guys at the table went over and talked to a girl. She came over to there table and sat for a while. Then she got up and talked to another girl and went back to the table of 7. After a few more minutes, she went back to a table of the other girls. The guy then went over to talk to the girl she had walked over to talk to. That girl joined them at their table. About 10 minutes later the guy and the girl went over to talk to the first girl. All three then went out the front door. I guess he arranged a double. They were only gone about 15 minutes. All three then came back and everyone applauded. By this time the place had filled up with guys. No more girls though. I decided t try my luck with one of them. As I approached from behind her, she got up and smiled and then walked away. Feeling like a fish out of water, I left. By this time there were a couple of bouncer types guarding the locked gate out front. It was open when I came in.

I went to Blacks just to browse. It´s still a den of hotties with prices to match. But even here a lot of the beauties I remembered are gone. There was this spectacular 20 year old blonde, but the last time I tried to arrange something with her she wouldn´t budge from 100 dollars an hour. Does anyone else think the blonde waitress that works at Blacks now, but used to work at Playwoman is hot?

It's good to read about your exploits justgotback. I do think that you're being too shy. Don't hesitate to talk to these girls. There really isn't a right or wrong protocol in my humble opinion. These girls are not nuns. They know why you are at these clubs. Make the initiative and just talk to them or attempt to let them know you are interested in them. Too many times I'll see an American that is drooling over a hottie only to not make a move and then get pissed that he didn't try.

You type, "There were about 5 girls I would have liked to have a session with, but I just didn't know how to go about it". No reason not to score with one of those 5. Make the initiative.

Even in Black's one of my best friends was down on the place because he thought all of the girls were "cold". This one girl he thought was the hottest never even made eye contact with him. I went over and told her to sit with us. As soon as I did this she warmed up and he was so glad I did this. Don't be shy. He saw tons of girls and had his best session of the trip this this girl he initially thought was "cold".

As mentioned many, many times. Black's is another world as far as prices go. No one should be surprised at the prices girls ask here. It's simply not a surprise and all of us have pointed this out. If you see a hot girl you want to do then do her. If they won't budge from their initial price at least try to negotiate more time. Most will deal a little.

Yes, I think the waitress that use to work at Playwoman is a cutie. Not "escort hot" but pretty in a girl-next-door kind of way. I believe her name is Veronica. Very friendly girl.

The other thing that people need to keep in mind is to disregard any guy's rating system. Most of us have different tastes. A "10" to one guy is a "4" to another. Also, don't be afraid to use the internet girls. I had some of my best sessions with them. There are some true gems out there waiting to rock your world.

Justgotback,

Doing business in Nuevo Estilo Boliche is just like anywhere else and in fact when I was there last year the girls were circulating and trying to make eye contact with you and in some cases coming and latching onto guys just like they do anywhere else. But it's really very simple: just go over to a girl you like and say "queres tomar algo conmigo?" And I'm sure she'll say something like "Si, como no" or "Por supuesto" and you're in, that simple. There will be little if any negotiating that you can do, they have fairly rigid, fixed pricing, like $100P or $150P for one hour including the room upstairs. You just walk outside and take two steps, then turn right and walk up a short flight of steps into their own private "albergue" and you're in. The girls will want to shower with you to make sure you're clean and most likely they'll only want to give you a covered bj but hey, there are some real gems to be found in that place. This is like the MacDonalds of sex in BA but both times I was there I had a great time.

Last year and the year before I stayed at the Golf Tower Hotel, a 5 minute walk up la Pampa toward Libertador from Nuevo Estilo. By the way, if you want to get there in a different way, get on the Subte and head towards Belgrano and get off at Juramento and either walk or take a cab from there. The Subte's really a great way to get around once you figure it out and if you think the cabs are cheap right now wait til you see how much cheaper the Subte is.

BANDY, please post your email address or email me at LLLLLNNNNN@AOL.COM. Thanks, DownBA